Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Podcast / Using Technology to Strengthen Orthopedic Care and Operations with Dr. Clay Dorenkamp
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- 0:02- Just five years ago, a big portion of
- 0:04- what's now being done in ambulatory surgery centers
- 0:07- wasn't considered outpatient work. The cases have changed,
- 0:10- the tech has changed, the patient expectations have
- 0:13- changed, and the leaders who are thriving are
- 0:16- the ones who saw it coming.
- 0:18- Becker's twenty third annual Spine Orthopedic and Pain
- 0:21- Management Driven ASC Conference
- 0:23- exists for exactly that kind of forward looking
- 0:25- practitioner.
- 0:27- Here, Becker's hosts more than 1,000 attendees, 275
- 0:31- physician and ASC speakers, and three days of
- 0:34- sessions that move between the clinical, the operational,
- 0:37- and the strategic, and the CME credits to
- 0:39- show for
- 0:40- it. Join us June eleventh through the thirteenth
- 0:42- at the Swiss Hotel in Chicago, and come
- 0:45- ready to think about what's next. Register on
- 0:47- our events page at beckershospitalreview.com
- 0:50- by clicking on the events tab in the
- 0:52- upper right.
- 0:54- This is Gracelyn Keller with the Buckers Healthcare
- 0:56- Podcast, and we are recording live at the
- 0:58- twenty third annual Spine Orthopedic and Pain Management
- 1:01- Driven ASC Conference.
- 1:03- I'm currently joined by doctor Clay Dornkamp, who
- 1:05- is an orthopedic surgeon at Michigan Orthopedic
- 1:08- Center.
- 1:09- So thank you so much for joining me
- 1:10- today. I'd love to have you start by
- 1:12- briefly introducing yourself and telling us more about
- 1:14- your role and the scope of your organization,
- 1:16- including what is currently commanding most of your
- 1:18- attention as leader.
- 1:20- Yeah. Thanks for having me. This conference has
- 1:22- been great.
- 1:23- This is actually my third year attending and
- 1:25- speaking at the conference, so I always enjoy
- 1:26- the sessions and and the collaboration and and
- 1:30- discussion amongst both the industry partners as well
- 1:33- as other organizations within the space. For me,
- 1:35- specifically, I'm a orthopedic spine surgeon, like like
- 1:38- you said, at Michigan Orthopedic Center in Lansing,
- 1:40- Michigan.
- 1:41- I focus primarily on spine surgery. So about
- 1:44- 95% of my practice is spine surgery with
- 1:46- a little bit of, orthopedic traumatology mixed in.
- 1:50- I work in a group of 11 orthopedic
- 1:52- surgeons through a variety of orthopedic specialties.
- 1:55- We run a very high volume total joints,
- 1:57- spine,
- 1:58- etcetera practice. And then also in that, I
- 2:01- also,
- 2:02- function as the organization's chief technology officer, so,
- 2:06- instrumental at validating
- 2:07- and implementing new technology and tools and helping
- 2:10- make sure we're staying up to date with
- 2:11- the current technologies.
- 2:13- Beautiful.
- 2:14- Well, in a year marked by rapid change,
- 2:16- what recent decision or pivot required the most
- 2:19- leadership conviction from you, particularly when it came
- 2:22- to aligning people resources or capabilities?
- 2:25- Yeah. So our our biggest problem, like, I'm
- 2:28- sure a lot of organizations probably have, is
- 2:31- dedicating the amount of or amount of people
- 2:33- to the and resources to what is really
- 2:35- needed in our practice.
- 2:37- Really, our main goal as physicians is to
- 2:39- be there and care for our patients.
- 2:40- And
- 2:41- one of the things we've really struggled with
- 2:43- is keeping our back office staff to meet
- 2:45- the increasing patient demands
- 2:47- and being able to effectively communicate and engage
- 2:50- with our patients. So that's really been kind
- 2:53- of where we've been focusing on this year
- 2:54- is,
- 2:55- exploring and and,
- 2:57- working on deploying technology to help us better
- 3:01- communicate with our patients, answer questions more efficient
- 3:04- efficiently,
- 3:05- and really start to use technology to help
- 3:08- improve our patient care.
- 3:10- And how did these moments challenge your assumptions,
- 3:13- and what do they change about how you
- 3:15- approach decision making, talent, or organizational readiness?
- 3:19- This is a great question because there's so
- 3:21- many solutions out there.
- 3:23- We actually started this process about a year
- 3:25- ago, and a lot of solutions didn't exist.
- 3:27- So we are actually working with a company
- 3:29- to develop a product to fit our solution.
- 3:32- And,
- 3:34- ultimately, like, what it really challenged me on
- 3:37- is that
- 3:38- this product is gonna be for my patients.
- 3:40- Right? I have to be their one sitting
- 3:42- there across the patients and making sure that
- 3:44- it it works well and it it functions
- 3:47- well and it's safe for my patients to
- 3:48- use. And that's been, like, one of the
- 3:50- biggest
- 3:51- challenges for me is to feel confident
- 3:54- in in in having something that I can
- 3:55- trust to to deliver the care that I
- 3:57- feel I my patients deserve and the standard
- 3:59- I wanna be accountable for.
- 4:02- Certainly.
- 4:03- And and shifting gears slightly, when you think
- 4:05- about the forces reshaping health care right now,
- 4:08- where do you believe leaders need to be
- 4:09- more decisive, especially when balancing speed, risk, and
- 4:12- having the right teams in place?
- 4:14- That is the million dollar question in health
- 4:16- care right now because
- 4:17- insurers are are rapidly deploying technology to help,
- 4:22- them manage their
- 4:24- denial management and evaluate
- 4:26- care. And I think
- 4:28- practices and hospitals really have to be on
- 4:31- the forefront of that too, or we're gonna
- 4:33- be left behind.
- 4:34- So,
- 4:36- really, we have to, one, we have to
- 4:38- make sure things are safe for our patients.
- 4:40- I don't think technology today is ready to
- 4:43- replace the clinician in the room.
- 4:45- There's a lot of headlines that always,
- 4:47- you know, make it sound like,
- 4:49- you know, CHAT GBT or CLOD or something
- 4:52- is better at diagnosing a patient than a
- 4:54- doctor is, when in reality, like, that's not
- 4:57- where medicine needs help today. We need help
- 4:59- managing our back office and making sure we're
- 5:02- getting patients through the system effectively and efficiently,
- 5:05- making sure that we're meeting their needs, we're
- 5:07- not missing
- 5:08- urgent matters. And then, also, we need help
- 5:11- on the payer and
- 5:13- position
- 5:14- relationship side where we can more effectively communicate
- 5:17- with the payers and decrease the operational burden
- 5:19- it takes to actually drive the revenue cycle
- 5:22- management through our through our practices.
- 5:25- And as uncertainty has become the norm, what
- 5:27- leadership habit or mindset has been most critical
- 5:29- in keeping your organization and people moving forward?
- 5:33- I think it's alignment. If only one person
- 5:35- is pushing something, you're never gonna get anywhere
- 5:38- as even in a medium sized orthopedic clinic
- 5:41- like ours,
- 5:42- especially in larger organizations.
- 5:44- You have to be able to communicate effectively
- 5:46- with the leadership
- 5:48- to show why this is important and show
- 5:49- why this is gonna improve patient care and
- 5:51- ultimately give you the a meaningful ROI in
- 5:54- the future. So I think alignment and communication
- 5:56- are probably the biggest leadership skills in deploying
- 5:58- these.
- 5:59- Well, doctor Dornkamp, thank you so much for
- 6:02- joining me today on the Becker's Healthcare Podcast.
- 6:04- And, again, we are recording live at the
- 6:06- twenty third annual Spine Orthopedic and Pain Management
- 6:08- Driven ASC Conference.