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- 0:01Elan, Welcome to Israel. You've been here before. Yes, this is
- 0:05a visit unlike anyone, because you started it out in the communities, right
- 0:11next to a gaza where the horrendous massacre took place. We went there together
- 0:16and then I showed you a short film some of the cars, and I
- 0:21wonder if you can give you some of your impressions of what you saw.
- 0:24It was jarring to see the scene of the masker or one of the scenes
- 0:27of the maskers, as well as to see the short film afterwards that's a
- 0:32short more of is that people getting killed. I was troubling in that bybe
- 0:36especially to see the joy experienced by people that were killing innocent civilians, including
- 0:42kids and babies and fenceless people essentially. So you know, it's one thing
- 0:47if ously if civilians die, but if it's another thing to revel in the
- 0:52joy of killing civilians, that's not that's evil. It's really a manifestation of
- 0:58a difficult That's what come up is it's a deaficult and the glorifying gore.
- 1:03I mean, some of the things that we saw are children being murdered in
- 1:07front of their parents, being murdered in front of their children, mothers who
- 1:11hid their little boys in a laundromat and an oven, or in a hidden
- 1:19attic, and these monsters found the attic. And you can imagine what these
- 1:22people felt, these little boys felt like in a grim fairy tale. The
- 1:26monster is coming at you. And they killed them and burned them. They
- 1:29beheaded women, they beheaded men. They tied a woman next to a tree
- 1:36and rapia repeatedly and then murdered her. They had people in a nature festival,
- 1:41music festival. Yeah, killed hundreds. You saw the pictures that it's
- 1:45just horrible. We just killed people women. Yes, I mean the rebuttal
- 1:49is often made that well, you know, you know Israel has killed civilians,
- 1:53you know, also in gossip. But there's an important difference here,
- 1:57which is that Israel tried to avoid killing civilians during everything it cans to to
- 2:01avoid killing civilians, and you know there's not sort of joy expressed. Well,
- 2:07it's regret. First of all, every civilian casualty is is a tragedy,
- 2:10and we try to minimize them. But what is happening here is that
- 2:14Kamas is essentially committing a double war crime. The first war crime is to
- 2:17deliberately target civilians and not only target them, but mutilate them, break them,
- 2:23behead them, burn them. The second war crime is to deliberately hide
- 2:28behind civilians, which is what they're doing in Gazma. So they're not an
- 2:31army in bases or out in field maneuvers. They're implanting themselves in residential areas,
- 2:37in schools and hospital The hospitals are their command centers. We found tunnels
- 2:42there with the military equipment, with guns and camo. So what do you
- 2:46do against an enemy of this kind, Well, the one thing you cannot
- 2:50do is give immunity to the terrorists because they're hiding among civilians. Because if
- 2:55you give them immunity, everybody says they shouldn't be doing this effectively. Nobody
- 3:00is willing to take the action to make sure that this is not an effective
- 3:04tactic, because if it is, it'll repeat itself again and again. By
- 3:07the way, Hamas says, we're going to do it again and again.
- 3:09But it's not only against Israel that they'll do it. This will spread very
- 3:14quickly throughout the Middle East and peril the entire region. From there, they'll
- 3:17go to Europe, and from there they'll also build elsewhere to America, whom
- 3:22they call the great Sitty. We're just a little America. So America is
- 3:27a great sat and this is any It's iranisbaalah Kamas. It's all part of
- 3:32that same access goes against Israel, the United States, free civilization, and
- 3:38the modern Arab States. We're all on one side. There on the other
- 3:40side. So how do you fight it. Well, let's see, you
- 3:45know, the people who are protesting that what Israel is doing to not take
- 3:47into account the fact that Israel asked, we called on the Palestinian population to
- 3:53leave the Zona fighting. Okay, they wanted to leave. Guess who stopped
- 3:58them at gunpoint Comas. Okay, we broke that and created a cord,
- 4:02a safe corridor that they could leave to the southern part of the Gaza strip
- 4:06where no fighting was taking place. And gets who fired on the safe cordon?
- 4:12That we a safe corridor, Comas. So it's not Israel that's preventing
- 4:15the civilians from leaving the war zone. It's Commas. It's not Israel that
- 4:20is shooting that civilians who want to escape, it's Commas. But we shouldn't
- 4:26give them the ability to, you know, to escape responsibility, which is
- 4:30what all these demonstrations are happening. You know the example I'll give Hitler does
- 4:33this horble, you know, these horrible crimes. He perpetrates the Holocaust.
- 4:39The Allies strike it back, they invade Normandy, the Germans hold themselves up
- 4:44in the German cities. Nobody said, well, don't attack the Wehrmacht,
- 4:48the German army, the Nazi army, because you have the civilians there.
- 4:53In fact, that's exactly what the Allies did through the cities of France and
- 4:57the cities of Germany, and many civilians were killed. I don't know what
- 5:00history would be like if you had you know, the kind of mass communications
- 5:04that we have today in protests would have been launched against the Allies on behalf
- 5:11of the Nazis, because, as the German Chancellor will visited Israel and solve
- 5:14these horrors. He said, Kamas are the new Nazis, Commas are the
- 5:17new Nazis. And people are demonstrating either out of ignorance, A lot of
- 5:21the protesting or the wrong side I mean it is. It was troubling to
- 5:27see massive protests in almost every major city in favor of almost well, they're
- 5:33generally characterized it as sort of a free Palestine movement, and I think you
- 5:38know, one generally agree that we want to, you know, a good
- 5:42future for Palestinians, and we want to you know, I mean, the
- 5:46challenge is really how do you get rid of the ones who are help adds
- 5:50on murdering Jewish people while you know, minimizing explaining casualties, and then awkwardly
- 5:57stopping the sort of propaganda that is convincing people to engage in murder, so
- 6:04that at the end of the day that's really essential is to figure out,
- 6:08Okay, what how are they being trained to have these to believe that murdering
- 6:14and having joy at the death of civilians is a good thing, and to
- 6:16stop that training, Well, I think you hit the nail on the head
- 6:20because you have we have a first omission to destroy Kamas. Nothing's going to
- 6:25stop because if you want peace, destroy Kamas, If you want security,
- 6:30destroy Lamas, If you want a better life for Palestinians in Ghazl will been
- 6:33hijacked by Ramas, destroy Kamas. All that is a precursor to the question
- 6:40that you asked. First, have to get rid of the poisonous regime as
- 6:45you did in Germany as you did in Japan in World War Two. These
- 6:47were two There's no choice, there's no choice. So there's a prerequis yes,
- 6:51But then look at what happened. What you had in Germany was de
- 6:55nasification, and what you had in Japan und your Douglas MacArthur was a cultural
- 7:01reformation. And Japan that you visit today is so different from Japan of the
- 7:06nineteen thirties. Germany that you visit today is so different from Germany of the
- 7:11nineteen thirties. Well, is that possible in the Arab world? And I
- 7:15categorically say, of course, because we've seen it already in two places.
- 7:18We've seen it in the Gulf States, and we see that when you visit
- 7:23Dubai, or when you visit Abu Dhabi, or when you visit Bahrain,
- 7:27you see something entirely different. There was in fact a cultural change there.
- 7:31And let me say that same thing is in my opinion, happening to a
- 7:35considerable extent in Saudi Arabia. The de radicalization of these Muslim countries, these
- 7:42Arab countries, some of it already took place, some of it is taken
- 7:46Yeah, but there's another country where a substantial Arab minority where that is already
- 7:51taking place, and that's called Israel. Twenty percent of our citizens are Arabs,
- 7:56most of them Muslim. They serve on you know, in high places,
- 8:01in the Academy and the Supreme Court, in the Knesse and and so
- 8:03on. And I'm not saying that there aren't there isn't some radicalism there,
- 8:07but mostly there isn't. In fact, they're integrated into the society. So
- 8:11we have to do the same thing. We have to militarize Gaza after the
- 8:16destruction of Kamas, and we have to do radicalize Gaza, and that will
- 8:20take some time, especially work on the mosques and on the schools that's where
- 8:24children are, you know, imbide their values. And then we have to
- 8:28also rebuild Gaza. And I hope to have our Arab friends help in that
- 8:33context, and you know, I'd like to help as well. So I
- 8:35think it's important to pair of firmness in taking out the terrorists, those who
- 8:41wish or intent on murder, and then at the same time to then help
- 8:46those who remain, which is also what happened in Germany and Japanese. Actually,
- 8:50you know, it's interesting because this is quite a rare thing in history.
- 8:52Usually the victor pillages the you know, the loser. And if you
- 8:58look after World War One, you know, the Treaty us I was a
- 9:01big mistake and it created emense betterness in Germany and it's part of what led
- 9:05to World War two and then World War two that people realized, listen,
- 9:09we actually need to rebuild the economies and instead of punish it. And so
- 9:16you know, you had the rebuilding of Japan, rebuilding of Germany as much
- 9:20bureau and then we've we've had peace and prosperity for a long time. I
- 9:24think that this is possible, but it has that small prerequisite. I'm saying
- 9:30small, I don't really mean small, big job getting rid of Tamas,
- 9:35which we will remember that what is is will suffered on this toominious day of
- 9:39October seventh was proportionately like twenty nine eleven. So you know, when people
- 9:45make us cease far sure Ramas as well. You know, if we're still
- 9:48around, we're going to do it again. And again that's a direct quote.
- 9:52Yes, okay, so would you make it? You don't need to
- 9:54read between the lights, if you just read the lights. They're quite explicit
- 9:58about it. Yes, So obviously we can't do that anymore than America would
- 10:01make a ceasfire without CATA after nine eleven. Yeah, and this is twenty
- 10:05nine. So they have to go and they will go. I'm talking about
- 10:09combatants, I'm talking about terrorists, talking about terrorists, chieftains. But then
- 10:15I think we can build a different future with the Palestinians. And the thing
- 10:18that I have to also really respond to is these demonstrations against c Israel,
- 10:24which is the only force that is taking measures to prevent civilian casualties. We're
- 10:31trying to do everything that we can, including entering into Gaza humanitarian help.
- 10:35But we have mass demonstrations. Where were these demonstrations when over a million Arabs
- 10:43and Muslims were killed in Syria, in Yemen, many of them starving to
- 10:46death, those who didn't die in explosions in battle, Where were the demonstrations
- 10:52in London, in Paris, in San Francisco, in Washington? Where are
- 10:56they? And the answer is they don't care about the Palestine. They hate
- 11:01Israel, and they hate Israel because they hate America. And they say,
- 11:05they say, from the river, free Palestine, from the river to the
- 11:07sea. Right, you know what the river to the sea means yes,
- 11:11the river river, it's called the Jordan River. The sea is the Mediterranean
- 11:16in between US Israel, right all of fifty miles wide. When they say
- 11:20free Palestine from the river to the sea, they say destroy Israel. Yeah,
- 11:26so they're demonstrating for the destruction of Israel on behalf of people who committed
- 11:30the worst savagery perpetrated on the Jewish people since the Holocaust. That is a
- 11:35moral collapse. And it's understandable that people will have concern for civilian casualties because
- 11:41we do as well. That I understand. It's inconceivable and incomprehensible that people
- 11:48will actually both this on behalf of these murderers, these deliberate killers of babies
- 11:54and not you know, they're not accidentally killing these people. We went into
- 11:58these cottages today, we saw where these killers came in and shot cribs,
- 12:03Yes, shot families, murdered, bullet casings in the cryb bullet cases at
- 12:09the crib. Exactly. It's just shocked. And so one has to understand
- 12:13in every legitimate war, there what you said before, the accidental civilian casualties
- 12:20that accompany any legitimate military action. That's often happened, happened to the island
- 12:24avoidable, It's unavoidable. Unfortunately, you try to minimize them. But what
- 12:28these terrorists camas Terras did is deliberately crossed the line. They were out there
- 12:33to massacre, murdered civilians on mass And let me tell you Schultz, the
- 12:39Chancellor of Germany called him when he visited Israel, he called him the new
- 12:43Nazis called Tamas and new Nazis. Tell you what the difference between the original
- 12:48Nazis and the new Naziss If they had the capabi, if they weren't thrown
- 12:52back by grave soldiers flooded the lines and brave civilians who fought with their finger,
- 12:58Nay, they would have killed every life. Yeah, So you know
- 13:01what do you do to correct these lies and these distortions. Well, one
- 13:07the truth, have the conversation we're having today. But I think there's also
- 13:13there's a weakness in Western higher education. Not new. In nineteen thirty three,
- 13:20shortly a few days after the rise of inter the Oxford student Union had
- 13:24a debate, and the debate was should that generation fight for king and country?
- 13:30And they resolved two to one, under no circumstances to fight for king
- 13:33and country. Well, they soon learned differently, they couldn't if they tolerated
- 13:39this kind of aggression that Germany was perpetrating, the Barbars. It soon spread
- 13:43to Britain, it soon spread to the entire world. If we tolerate this
- 13:46kind of barbarism that Hamas perpetrated on Israel, by the way, on Jews
- 13:52and Arabs alike. In Israel, Arab citizens Bedwinds. They spoke to me,
- 13:58these Bedouin fighters in the Israeli Defense Force. One of them said,
- 14:03you know, I woke up on that day, rushed to the line,
- 14:05and the first thing I saw, he said, the first thing I saw
- 14:09was a corpse of a woman, a headless corpse of a woman. And
- 14:13he said to me, then I knew exactly what we were fighting. We
- 14:18is Arabs and Jews in fighting these monsters. So I think that once we
- 14:22recognize that we have to unite all the forces of civilization against this new Barbers
- 14:28and this savage medievalism that try to stop a better future for all of us,
- 14:35we can achieve this future. I think if we beat Ramas, we
- 14:37can go back to peace in Saudi Arabia. I think we can expand the
- 14:41circle of peace beyond anything imagine. We can build that, rebuild and build
- 14:48development projects that will defy the imagination of the world. But first we have
- 14:52to win. It's like against the Nazis, it's like against al Qaeda,
- 14:58it' slight against Isis. First you have to win. Yeah, I think
- 15:01that makes perfect sense. Those who are intended murder must be neutralized. Then
- 15:05the propagandas stop. That is training people to be murtterers in the future,
- 15:11and they're making gods of prosperous and if that happens, I think will be
- 15:15good future. Well, I hope you'll be involved in help. And the
- 15:18fact that you came here I think speak volumes, speaks volumes of your commitment
- 15:24to try to secure a better future. You know, I wish we had
- 15:28more time the last time we spoke about AI. Yeah, And I think
- 15:31even here, on this short visit, you add a glimpse of the great
- 15:35talents. Yeah available, here's metaund measure, but it's talent that served the
- 15:39world. It's in all these things. You look at your iPhone, you
- 15:43know a good part of it was made here. It will use ways made
- 15:46here. Sure we get a cherry tomato it's made here. That's the positive
- 15:50part of the future that we have begun to build. And we'll resume building
- 15:54after this, after we defeat Kamas. Because and then the last thing I've
- 16:00never seen the elon so united. We have an opportunity to quire among ourselves.
- 16:07Our politics are famous for it, and yet here everyone united, Everyone
- 16:11united formed the Unity Government and emergency Unity Government and the people and the it's
- 16:17not really the soldiers as families, even families of soldiers are on the front
- 16:22line and they say, finish the job so we can have a better Yeah.
- 16:26Well, I hope for a better future for Hearin, for the world.
- 16:30Thank you and thank you for coming here. Yeah, thank you. Van