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The BIGPLAY Cleveland Show 10/07/26 · BIGPLAY Cleveland

• 0:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: A man can only take so much anymore, Ryan Tyler, and I never thought I would actually get on the take that I have today.
• 0:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: I Feel like I'm joining the dark side.
• 0:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: I feel like it was an Emperor Palpatine or I was pulling me.
• 0:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, baby.
• 0:18
  [SPEAKER_05]: Over the the dark Sith the Sith lord the Sith lord
• 0:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: not Darth Maul, who's adamant drivers guy.
• 0:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: No, not Darth Vemny.
• 0:27
  [SPEAKER_05]: No, Darth Vemny.
• 0:28
  [SPEAKER_05]: Kyle Ren, they're pulling me over to the dark side.
• 0:34
  [SPEAKER_05]: When it comes to the Cleveland Guardians, I don't like it.
• 0:37
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't like how I feel about it.
• 0:39
  [SPEAKER_05]: But I have finally arrived here.
• 0:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: Game three, a spino.
• 0:45
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't dislike it.
• 0:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: I prefer to be up to over one one and throw him out there.
• 0:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: All the ships are on the table today for the Cleveland Guardians.
• 0:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: The timely hitting will discuss that.
• 0:56
  [SPEAKER_05]: Stephen votes decisions in game starting to come under the microscope.
• 1:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: Kate Crocus, who covers a lot for us here on Big Play, but he is our Guardians beat reporter.
• 1:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: He's going to join us coming up at 1235.
• 1:07
  [SPEAKER_05]: So we got plenty of guards to go.
• 1:10
  [SPEAKER_05]: And I got to tell you, Ryan, it's been a little while for this.
• 1:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: Wow, yeah, see normally that's every time just guarding our extended hands from time to time Thought that's that's the energy we'd be bringing in four weeks.
• 1:34
  [SPEAKER_05]: You knew beat the Steelers like that Did you see the power rankings?
• 1:38
  [SPEAKER_05]: I did well it depends with 20 look at cuz I saw power rankings That's the lattice 29 Which is really I I believe it was Bucky Brooks he had us in the top 10 can't remember who's it was if it was Bucky I think it was Bucky.
• 1:50
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'll give it number nine dude.
• 1:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: Come on now
• 1:52
  [SPEAKER_05]: You're three in one.
• 1:53
  [SPEAKER_05]: You're three in one.
• 1:56
  [SPEAKER_05]: I've got updated win totals from bet online.
• 1:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: We jumped two full games, where four games are quarter the way to season basically.
• 2:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: They jumped us up.
• 2:07
  [SPEAKER_05]: Boy, I hope you got on that five and a half ticket.
• 2:10
  [SPEAKER_05]: I told ya, everybody told, I feel like everybody was on board the five and a half.
• 2:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: And here we are, I don't think you know this, and I'm not sure that many people do, but he said it on air, so it's completely fine.
• 2:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: Sure.
• 2:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: Chef Zay actually has a deal going on with Jarvis Landry.
• 2:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
• 2:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: He's, if the Browns win 10 games, and they made this deal before the season started, if the Browns win 10 games, Jarvis Landry said he's going to buy Chef Zay a new RV.
• 2:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: We're almost a quarter like one more win and we're over a third of the way you're going to get that on Sunday buddy You ain't losing the jets.
• 2:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'll tie you that much That's gonna it will be all right.
• 2:47
  [SPEAKER_05]: I just picture this old piece of crap when a big
• 2:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's an RV, it works.
• 2:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: Browns, baby, man.
• 2:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: Listen, that was exciting Thursday night.
• 2:57
  [SPEAKER_05]: And there are tangible things about this football team of why you are winning in an Everlibli's gonna come back to the quarterback.
• 3:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: We will talk to Sean Watson on this show coming up.
• 3:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: We'll get to that.
• 3:10
  [SPEAKER_05]: We'll touch a little on Ohio State.
• 3:12
  [SPEAKER_05]: Easy went against Iowa, kind of figured that.
• 3:14
  [SPEAKER_05]: They got, I think, saying ads might be able to beat Marilyn, that's the sweet guy.
• 3:19
  [SPEAKER_05]: then we got some basketball.
• 3:22
  [SPEAKER_05]: We have preseason basketball this week.
• 3:25
  [SPEAKER_05]: I thought this was really interesting for me, SPN.
• 3:27
  [SPEAKER_05]: Basketball power and index projections offense defense total and the numbers, the pure analytical numbers ran.
• 3:37
  [SPEAKER_05]: What will the Cavs record be?
• 3:39
  [SPEAKER_05]: We'll get to that.
• 3:40
  [SPEAKER_05]: We got a guard parlay for this afternoon, which we'll get to and you know we got the immaculate grid.
• 3:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: We got it all right here on big play.
• 3:49
  [SPEAKER_05]: Welcome to the show everybody I am at Fontana.
• 3:52
  [SPEAKER_05]: Hey.
• 3:52
  [SPEAKER_05]: is Ryan Tyler so I could have you along on the Wednesday edition live, big play right here on YouTube, getting that YouTube chat, subscribe to the channel as well, live every day, 12 to 130.
• 4:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: We're here every Wednesday, percent of our great friends at Physicians Ambulance, smart choice, fast, garage beer, and pizza, two, one, six, we'll start with some guards.
• 4:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: All right, man.
• 4:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: The downfall was the downfall of what you thought it was going to be.
• 4:18
  [SPEAKER_05]: You're not just not hitting,
• 4:20
  [SPEAKER_05]: you're not hitting with runners and scoring position again.
• 4:25
  [SPEAKER_05]: Messic, you just the hard thing is like, when you just you feel it.
• 4:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: It wasn't even messy.
• 4:32
  [SPEAKER_05]: It was Eric Sabrowski.
• 4:35
  [SPEAKER_05]: But you just feel like if it's not perfection, you're going to have a tough go.
• 4:42
  [SPEAKER_05]: Gavin gave me about all he could.
• 4:45
  [SPEAKER_05]: People are upset with vote.
• 4:47
  [SPEAKER_05]: You pulled Gavin Williams in a playoff game under a hundred pitches.
• 4:53
  [SPEAKER_05]: There was a runner on, I believe there was a runner on second when they when they pulled him out.
• 4:58
  [SPEAKER_05]: And I know Dell got the hit late and it made it look a little bit better than what it was.
• 5:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's the bat's, which is like, what were we lauded?
• 5:07
  [SPEAKER_05]: What were we saying was the turnaround on this team?
• 5:10
  [SPEAKER_05]: Was the bats?
• 5:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: Was the addition of the fan you'll low?
• 5:14
  [SPEAKER_05]: And Joe Adele, who have been sure, but are the graphic, right?
• 5:17
  [SPEAKER_05]: Just M-I freaking A.
• 5:21
  [SPEAKER_05]: God.
• 5:23
  [SPEAKER_05]: Rokio, not there, Martina is not there.
• 5:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: We'll talk.
• 5:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: We'll hear from Jose Ramirez in a second.
• 5:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: How crazy is that, though, Matt?
• 5:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: You're talking about Jose Ramirez, your goat.
• 5:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: On Hill, Martina is a guy that can shift the game, put it over the fence every at bat he's there, and then Brian Rokio, who's Mr. Klotch, he's earned that title, obviously.
• 5:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: Not retaining it so far, all three of those hitters.
• 5:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: Don't have a single hit through two games.
• 5:45
  [SPEAKER_05]: And that's, have you faced elite pitching?
• 5:49
  [SPEAKER_05]: You have not, you know, again, I'm not taking it
• 5:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: But you've not faced this, I know Kim Schiller got lit up the other night, but you know, again, you're not facing this murderous row of offensive of pitching, what was it was the white socks bats, and of course it's mere common use that a couple of nice hits and, you know, close to my gummery, as you could player like.
• 6:14
  [SPEAKER_05]: The one downfall for the Guardian says, what been the one thing that has come to fruition throughout this whole situation?
• 6:20
  [SPEAKER_05]: I meant to look this up, and I completely record when a team goes down, O2, I wanna say it, it's like a five MLB playoff.
• 6:34
  [SPEAKER_05]: I totally, I completely brain farted on this.
• 6:37
  [SPEAKER_05]: I meant to look this up early.
• 6:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: I wanna say it's like three,
• 6:40
  [SPEAKER_05]: 10 teams in Major League Baseball history have successfully come back down 0-2 to win a best of five post.
• 6:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, I think I saw stat, it was like since 95 or so.
• 6:49
  [SPEAKER_05]: So it's not so 2017.
• 6:53
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yankees, 2015 Blue Jays, 2012 Giants, since 2000, it's only happened five times.
• 7:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's probably what you saw.
• 7:03
  [SPEAKER_05]: Since 2000, it's only happened five times and it's been nine years since that's happened.
• 7:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: And to be fair, and maybe we'll get to this point, Matt, but I think it's appropriate.
• 7:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, if there was a team to do it, it'd be this team.
• 7:16
  [SPEAKER_05]: Well, that's where, again, like,
• 7:18
  [SPEAKER_05]: you just got a win today and that's been Stephen votes messages we can't think about anything else like you have got to do everything you can for this game which I think is it maybe in part why you spino is starting uh as your opener like it is just about today now while I talk myself into we get it done am I gonna talk myself into it sure do you have to win on the road two games now yes and then you get the game five at home but like this
• 7:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: the problem it so here's the here's the team to take a two-old lead and best to five series roughly win eighty nine percent of the time.
• 7:50
  [SPEAKER_05]: There's only been two teams in MLB history that have won the world series after coming back from an O2 deficit in a best to five ALDS and LDS series.
• 8:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: The 1981 Dodgers in the 2012 San Francisco Giants.
• 8:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you for not letting me
• 8:14
  [SPEAKER_05]: I pictured just right in city care and be like, oh, you know, you know, you know, you can't remember Jim Bob Couture Which by the way
• 8:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: And this is- Yeah, you remember some random guy that 81 Dodgers know Bruce and- I don't know.
• 8:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
• 8:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: This isn't a joke in any mean, but tomorrow I know for a fact Bruce will be having a eulogy for sudden.
• 8:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, yes.
• 8:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: And that was certainly sad news to see, uh, with Sam McDowell's passing yesterday.
• 8:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: Number lefty, greasy?
• 8:42
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
• 8:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: Sudden Sam.
• 8:44
  [SPEAKER_05]: What a perfect baseball name, by the way.
• 8:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: But that's the thing we're dreading tomorrow.
• 8:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: We might have a ulogy for the for the garden.
• 8:50
  [SPEAKER_05]: It might be all done by tomorrow.
• 8:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know or we get a win.
• 8:53
  [SPEAKER_05]: You try to hold on from here, but yeah, I guess your point could you feel about capturing some magic.
• 9:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: The the fear is that I have is that the magic is gone.
• 9:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: And that kind of gets to the take that I was starting on the show with was this we're like I feel like I've been pulled to the dark side on this I feel like it's finally worn me down as a guardians fan because for a long time and I even sent us on Saturday don't take this for granted.
• 9:22
  [SPEAKER_05]: We are lucky to have this team in this town and be as good as they've been what's it been 15 year or 10 years of making the playoffs.
• 9:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: half of the time, you know, since 1995, that's where it was in 1995, we made the playoffs about half the time.
• 9:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's not easy to do.
• 9:38
  [SPEAKER_05]: And people inherently come back and they they bitch and moan about the money and what they're doing spend or the payroll.
• 9:44
  [SPEAKER_05]: And I was for a long time of fan where I was like, just getting the dance, we'll see what happens, making the playoffs.
• 9:50
  [SPEAKER_05]: So it's not taking for granted.
• 9:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: So my favorite baseball memories are being down in that ballpark for playoff games.
• 9:58
  [SPEAKER_05]: I've gone to the other side now.
• 10:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: Playoffs aren't enough anymore.
• 10:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm getting sick of it.
• 10:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: I never thought I would be there.
• 10:08
  [SPEAKER_05]: And I don't even know how this series is going to go.
• 10:10
  [SPEAKER_05]: We could come back and win this and go win the world series.
• 10:12
  [SPEAKER_05]: And I'll be seeing it in a completely different tune.
• 10:17
  [SPEAKER_05]: Playoffs aren't enough for me anymore.
• 10:20
  [SPEAKER_05]: That is crazy for me to say that.
• 10:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think it is.
• 10:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's like, but it's crazy for me.
• 10:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's not a crazy take because I'm joining you, but like Ryan, you know me.
• 10:29
  [SPEAKER_05]: I was staunchly on the other side.
• 10:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: I was staunchly on the other side of telling people like, no man, you are so high brown.
• 10:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: You're taking this or granted.
• 10:37
  [SPEAKER_05]: And you know, you're high and mighty.
• 10:39
  [SPEAKER_05]: And I was like, just enjoy it and you know what?
• 10:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm on the other side to play.
• 10:42
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's not enough anymore.
• 10:44
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's not enough anymore.
• 10:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: It finally took this to break me.
• 10:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's not enough just to make it any more.
• 10:55
  [SPEAKER_05]: When I rather lose honor games, no, do I want to sell away this September that we had?
• 11:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: No, but damn it, does this beat me down?
• 11:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like, I am so frustrated.
• 11:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: I tell you this, this is the most frustrating season of baseball that I think I've ever watched as a fan.
• 11:21
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's driving me insane and for all the hope that I had that you had that we all had for that there's some flip to be had in the playoffs, where is it, what happened?
• 11:38
  [SPEAKER_05]: Everything which you won the division you got your buy you've got a team that a lot of people would have rather faced In the white I guess some while we wanted the answer.
• 11:47
  [SPEAKER_05]: I wanted the white socks stupid me And the worst part is it's not over.
• 11:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't want to do this I didn't want to I wanted to get ready for this game that I hit a parlay and see what happens for game four We're not dead yet
• 12:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: But that's just the inevitable feeling that I have.
• 12:08
  [SPEAKER_05]: And I hate this so much.
• 12:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: I just do, and I gotta tell ya, I think I'm finally jumping on the other side here, where the, just making the playoffs, it's not enough anymore.
• 12:20
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know how you can expect a fan base not to be upset at this point.
• 12:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: You're talking, you're talking six division titles in the last five years, three in a row, three in a row, four in the last five, and you have one ALCS appearance in the last 10 years.
• 12:33
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• 12:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: They've made it to I believe one AFC champion should game with him.
• 12:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, they have how many AFC East division titles man like at some point Just stop trying to shove it down our throat that that that that we should be complacent well, and that's the thing especially It would be different if we had a championship in like the last 40 years.
• 12:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's a great point to that is and we have one world series appearance Well, you know 95 97 2016, but like
• 13:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: the problem is that that's all you can really ask for for most of the season, right?
• 13:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: All you can really ask for for the majority of a season for how long baseball is is just to make the playoffs.
• 13:23
  [SPEAKER_05]: You can't think about anything else.
• 13:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: Baseball is just a completely different monster.
• 13:29
  [SPEAKER_05]: It is just about what they do in October.
• 13:34
  [SPEAKER_05]: and people are starting to not revolt on Jose Ramirez, but look at his postseason performances, sans this year with the hand injury.
• 13:44
  [SPEAKER_05]: Now you have the clip, let's play it from Jose and Augie is interpreter.
• 13:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like, he's fighting through this hand inch.
• 13:50
  [SPEAKER_05]: I thought, yeah, great, we got the buy.
• 13:52
  [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe that'll be some time off the hand.
• 13:53
  [SPEAKER_05]: There are people that said it.
• 13:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: I guess I just didn't want to believe it.
• 13:55
  [SPEAKER_05]: He's not gonna be fully healthy until next year.
• 13:57
  [SPEAKER_05]: This might be half to what you deal with.
• 13:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: Here's Jose Ramirez with Augie talking about his hand injury, audio video courtesy of the Cleveland Guardians.
• 14:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: So the only thing is it's hard to put together into one day of what specific list trigger and the pain or the bother but to me a second day for me it's always a mindset tried to find the way I had to win and that's not how I did it again but the way of me trying to do the best I can.
• 14:18
  [SPEAKER_05]: So that's all he can say at this point right is I just got to play through it.
• 14:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: What do you want him to, that's a hard pile of what I want him to do.
• 14:29
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'd love to get angry over injuries.
• 14:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: I can't.
• 14:32
  [SPEAKER_05]: I literally can't because there's nothing he can do about it.
• 14:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: There's nothing I can do about it.
• 14:38
  [SPEAKER_05]: And the same thing, the frustrary.
• 14:40
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's amplified by Jodal and Nathaniel Woe, and all these other guys that really are chased the water.
• 14:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like,
• 14:50
  [SPEAKER_05]: We look like a completely different team.
• 14:52
  [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe we should have gone to the AL Wildcard series.
• 14:55
  [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe we needed those games.
• 14:57
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
• 14:58
  [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe the week off was a curse.
• 15:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: I have no idea, but at this point, what happened?
• 15:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: What happened?
• 15:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: Comes down to today.
• 15:08
  [SPEAKER_05]: Let's hear Steven vote.
• 15:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: He makes the announcement.
• 15:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: Daniel Espino is going to be your opener for this game.
• 15:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: Here's Vote, kind of talking through it.
• 15:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Daniel Espino, start tomorrow.
• 15:17
  [SPEAKER_05]: And how'd you come to that decision?
• 15:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: just looking at you know what we have in front of us and obviously he's done a great job opening.
• 15:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so with all the options in the bullpen, I felt like giving the bull a Daniel was the right call.
• 15:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, I don't disagree.
• 15:32
  [SPEAKER_05]: Some people are pissed about this.
• 15:33
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not.
• 15:34
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think this was the plan and motion all the time.
• 15:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: Now you're one one.
• 15:37
  [SPEAKER_05]: You're up to oh, you're feeling completely different.
• 15:40
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if you say this to Daniela Spino, I don't think you need to say this to him, but this is stone cold effect.
• 15:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: If there is a base runner at second base, you are coming out of this game.
• 15:49
  [SPEAKER_05]: You are not allowed to let any player reach second base.
• 15:52
  [SPEAKER_05]: You give up a home run, you're out.
• 15:55
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like that's just how it's gonna have to be.
• 15:57
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's how this game is going to have to be managed.
• 16:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: And that is tight, which you don't like, that is neurotic, which you don't like.
• 16:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: That is exactly what you are gonna face
• 16:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's, I'm fine with him opening.
• 16:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: Would you feel a thousand times better or foster-girlfriend got this start right?
• 16:18
  [SPEAKER_05]: I wouldn't do it.
• 16:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: I met I thought about this all day and Let me know what you think about this sure put yourself in tanner by be shoes You got paid this off season you struggled you've had your ups and downs your offense has to produce runs and imagine a world where hey tanner I know we just gave you this extension I know that we put a lot of faith in you, but you're not even gonna get in appearance the posties in this year
• 16:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like imagine his confidence going into next year and it goes viral either way if he goes out there and throws a stinker I almost kind of think because of that you start Tanner while the other it the issue that he would sit there I feel like I'm a defense attorney be like objection.
• 16:58
  [SPEAKER_05]: He got no runs support
• 17:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: How many quality starts did he have that you lost or was a loss on his record because he gave up two runs and we didn't get a guy to second base.
• 17:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like he got clubered of all cluberly.
• 17:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: We might even need a room name, it's getting bi-beed.
• 17:14
  [SPEAKER_05]: Because that's exactly what happened to him.
• 17:16
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like if he was defending himself in a court of log against even vote about why he doesn't get this start, you look at his record and you go, dude, I got screwed by this offense.
• 17:25
  [SPEAKER_05]: Over and over and over again.
• 17:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: Well, Tanner Bobby was the one I was not going to start.
• 17:33
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'd listen to Foster Griffin.
• 17:35
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm okay with the spinole.
• 17:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: I probably would have made the same decision.
• 17:39
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not Bobby.
• 17:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: Not not.
• 17:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe this is maybe my logic right here is completely aspect where it's so please let me know.
• 17:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: But do you think there could be something because we were talking?
• 17:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, the only way you start Tanner Bobby is if you're up to, oh, but what if it's the reverse way?
• 17:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: What if it's due to work down, oh, too?
• 17:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: We need Tanner sealing.
• 17:58
  [SPEAKER_05]: You can still get it.
• 18:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: Who's the next guy out?
• 18:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
• 18:03
  [SPEAKER_05]: Is it going to be cantilloo?
• 18:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: Could be Griffin, it could be Biden.
• 18:07
  [SPEAKER_05]: What happens?
• 18:08
  [SPEAKER_05]: You put a spino out there.
• 18:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: Let's, let's, let's, we're going to, right now we'll stay in positive.
• 18:12
  [SPEAKER_05]: Spino goes out there.
• 18:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: He gives you three innings of shutout baseball.
• 18:16
  [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
• 18:17
  [SPEAKER_05]: God said.
• 18:18
  [SPEAKER_05]: You do not want him going back through the lineup a second time.
• 18:22
  [SPEAKER_05]: That ain't happening.
• 18:23
  [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
• 18:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: Here comes Tanner body.
• 18:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: Bobby gives you two, I mean, yeah, let's get you to the fifth.
• 18:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: And then, dude, get is, you know, okay, Kate.
• 18:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: I know, I know, I know.
• 18:37
  [SPEAKER_05]: But that is your pitching recipe for success.
• 18:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: So I'm, Bobby, I bet you Bobby will pitch to that, bet you will.
• 18:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: But you almost have to.
• 18:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: Well, okay, you're not gonna like what I'm about to say and it'll probably get some people pissed off.
• 18:53
  [SPEAKER_05]: But you do gotta think about a game four.
• 18:56
  [SPEAKER_05]: You do got to think because if you go out there and throw him, what are you doing for game four?
• 19:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: You're almost an devil, big enough to throw a foster griffin.
• 19:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: Messick, I guess, would be, okay, if you pitch Saturday, when game four is Friday, is it not?
• 19:10
  [SPEAKER_05]: They have the other day often between.
• 19:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't even look.
• 19:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: I would.
• 19:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they do.
• 19:14
  [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
• 19:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: So then Parker's fine.
• 19:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: I actually confirm that.
• 19:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to lie.
• 19:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to lie to people here.
• 19:22
  [SPEAKER_05]: You're either scheduled right now, um, no, we play tomorrow.
• 19:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
• 19:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: We play tomorrow, five o'clock.
• 19:27
  [SPEAKER_05]: But again, Saturday to Thursday, that's normal rest.
• 19:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: You're off Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.
• 19:32
  [SPEAKER_05]: So you have four days resting set of five.
• 19:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if you can even think about a game four.
• 19:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: I know I like even just the mentality, but like almost like, obviously, they have to win for a series of continue, but winning is honestly even more than that because you get a win here in Chicago.
• 19:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: You then you can maybe put a thought in the White Sox head.
• 19:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: Uh-oh.
• 19:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they win one.
• 19:52
  [SPEAKER_05]: Correct.
• 19:53
  [SPEAKER_05]: We had to go do it again.
• 19:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
• 19:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: No, I get it, but it's but that as much as I don't want to bring that up in your right, but it's that's still something that's even vote has to keep in the back.
• 20:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: And again, the ultimate trump card could just be Parker Messick is he's there's no way he's pitching today.
• 20:07
  [SPEAKER_05]: There's a possibility to start tomorrow.
• 20:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: But like that's where I think they're thinking after a spino.
• 20:14
  [SPEAKER_05]: do you go to buy me do you save I guess that's my point you then say buy me to start game four and you put foster Griffin out there.
• 20:23
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's the hell that that's the crappy situation that you find yourself, you know, in today.
• 20:29
  [SPEAKER_05]: And, you know, Anthony Castroman said a great tweet that I found funny because I quoted it with a picture of Austin Hedges and and Castrovin's goes to go by my math 100% of the games in this ALDS have been won by a team not starting a starter because it's been all these openers throw Hedges out.
• 20:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: Can I ask an uncomfortable question about the offense?
• 20:50
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, please.
• 20:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: Do you think the white socks are even scared at this point to pitch the Jose Ramirez?
• 20:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: No, because no, two things.
• 20:57
  [SPEAKER_05]: Nobody around me have to worry about any's hurt and there's nobody on base, right?
• 21:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: For the most part.
• 21:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: Now, that's start that you got when low hit that little like dinky chopper.
• 21:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: You know, that, that, hey man, I did do how frustrating was that because I saw watching.
• 21:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, that's there.
• 21:12
  [SPEAKER_05]: I go, here we go.
• 21:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: Here's our start.
• 21:14
  [SPEAKER_05]: You know, this is what we needed.
• 21:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: I need, and you still choke to the work on on this before we get Kate and here.
• 21:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 21:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: Is it time and Jack, I thought, put this eloquently on yesterday's show?
• 21:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: Is it time to kill guards, Paul?
• 21:28
  [SPEAKER_05]: What are you going to do?
• 21:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't disagree.
• 21:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm answering your question with a question.
• 21:33
  [SPEAKER_05]: What's your other option?
• 21:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: Right, but I just mean even from a marketing standpoint.
• 21:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's like stop throwing in our faces.
• 21:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: Gardsball, it's not cute anymore.
• 21:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: I hate to tell you they don't have a better option.
• 21:44
  [SPEAKER_05]: For right now, you don't have a better off.
• 21:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: Hashtag, Gardsville, Hashtag.
• 21:47
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like, okay, so inevitably what you are then talking about, it's just would then be changing the line up.
• 21:52
  [SPEAKER_05]: You're not going to single teams to death in October.
• 21:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's just not 100% worse.
• 21:57
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's exactly why we're in the situation.
• 21:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: The only thing that you could then do that is in the power of Stephen Vote is to change the line up.
• 22:07
  [SPEAKER_05]: So what do you do?
• 22:08
  [SPEAKER_05]: Do you drop, you're not dropping Jose?
• 22:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: You're not moving quad.
• 22:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: As much as I don't want Joe Adele batting, clean up, my heart cannot stand watching David Fry bat in the middle of this lineup.
• 22:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: I can't take it.
• 22:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: They're gonna have to put me into a medically induced coma while he goes up to the plate because I can't handle that.
• 22:32
  [SPEAKER_05]: I just can't.
• 22:33
  [SPEAKER_05]: You wanna bat him, eighth, sure, fine, whatever.
• 22:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: Where is your middle of the lineup?
• 22:39
  [SPEAKER_05]: Where is low?
• 22:40
  [SPEAKER_05]: Where is the water?
• 22:42
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's it.
• 22:44
  [SPEAKER_05]: So to break that stigma that you're talking about, the only thing that you can do right now is change the lineup, but there's only about three guys that I think you can move around at this point.
• 22:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: What do you want to, again, to your point, guard's ball.
• 22:57
  [SPEAKER_05]: I hate to tell you the answer to this question is actually more guard's ball, but run, get on base, steel bases, like that's what I'm saying.
• 23:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: They're actually the answer to the thing that you are avoiding so much is actually probably more of what you don't want.
• 23:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, yeah, for this year for right now, but it's not a big deal.
• 23:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm just talking, yeah, I'll talk in big things.
• 23:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: You can do it, it's like you can change your roster.
• 23:23
  [SPEAKER_05]: Your development, your answer to that is then the development of Chase Law did chase the lot of your a, a now on Hellmark tonight, like, that's your whole, that's your priority.
• 23:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: I already know I'm going to have to listen to Bruce shove that down our throat tomorrow.
• 23:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: No, I know.
• 23:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: And that's what he's been on for a while.
• 23:38
  [SPEAKER_05]: It doesn't help you now.
• 23:39
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's feels like crap right now as we sit here, but like All right, well, then let's have this conversation Matt.
• 23:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: Sure.
• 23:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: If you're another uncomfortable one, give me a Blaine Pige, Matt Fontaine is Blaine pie chart.
• 23:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let's say, let's say we we get swept.
• 23:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: We lose we lose what what's the Blaine pie chart on the roster and then what's the blame chart on the front office and what's the Blaine chart on Steven vote.
• 23:58
  [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
• 23:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: If you're not going to make me do individual guys on the roster.
• 24:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: No, I'm not.
• 24:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: You're always going to have to look at the roster.
• 24:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: This isn't football where I can blame a coach for being a moron.
• 24:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: Bad time out usage, bad play calls.
• 24:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's not this.
• 24:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's some questionable ones though.
• 24:16
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not seeing he doesn't.
• 24:17
  [SPEAKER_05]: He's on the top.
• 24:17
  [SPEAKER_05]: He's on the top.
• 24:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: He's on the top.
• 24:18
  [SPEAKER_05]: He's on the top.
• 24:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: He's on the top.
• 24:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: Just, just even vote control the lineup every day.
• 24:21
  [SPEAKER_05]: OK, it's going to be the same thing the Terry Franchone did.
• 24:25
  [SPEAKER_05]: They come down from their analytics department and they slide him a piece of paper.
• 24:29
  [SPEAKER_05]: And on that piece of paper is what they think, based on their thousands of sabre metrics and some super computer over there, carning and Ontario.
• 24:38
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, it's back off.
• 24:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's right.
• 24:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: They're going to slide Steve and vote a piece of paper and they're going to say based off of everything that we run this looks like your best lineup for today.
• 24:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: You know who does that?
• 24:53
  [SPEAKER_05]: Everybody.
• 24:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: Everybody.
• 24:56
  [SPEAKER_05]: And then that is up to Steve and a vote what he does with that piece of paper.
• 24:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: So are we talking 10% blame?
• 25:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: Are we talking for votes?
• 25:03
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
• 25:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: The players.
• 25:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: They're on fans.
• 25:08
  [SPEAKER_05]: People are.
• 25:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: You have people.
• 25:10
  [SPEAKER_05]: Our fans.
• 25:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 25:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: How are you about to get mad at a two-time AL coach of the year?
• 25:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: American League Coach of the year.
• 25:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: Or manager of the year.
• 25:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: Excuse me.
• 25:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 25:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: And then you have the same.
• 25:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's like, well, again, that's the culture that was already built here.
• 25:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: You have young players that are contributing.
• 25:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's even vote elevating those players on this team.
• 25:25
  [SPEAKER_05]: So here's the thing, you also can't blame the front office.
• 25:29
  [SPEAKER_05]: One of why?
• 25:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: Everybody was over the moon about low, Griffin and Joe Adele.
• 25:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: Everybody was screaming how great those moves were.
• 25:39
  [SPEAKER_05]: You didn't get anything up there right here.
• 25:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: Now these guys have not shown up in the playoffs.
• 25:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's our Christian Tinnitus fault.
• 25:45
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's not Christianity's fault.
• 25:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let me ask you that.
• 25:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's where the roster, like 75% of this is on the roster.
• 25:52
  [SPEAKER_05]: 100%.
• 25:53
  [SPEAKER_05]: I generally don't know the answer.
• 25:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm asking.
• 25:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: Were people more so excited at those moves because they're like, oh, wow, this is really work going all in or was this because, wow, this is more than we're used to.
• 26:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: I've more of these other barcans to an addition.
• 26:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: So we have to get happy.
• 26:08
  [SPEAKER_05]: You can clear a clear low bars, which talking about, which I get.
• 26:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: The thing is,
• 26:12
  [SPEAKER_05]: It was a low bar to clear which they did, but these guys were also contributing to wins, like it was undeniable what Joe Adele brought and low to a lesser degree Adele was the best of them all.
• 26:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: And you got some decent starts from Foster Griffin.
• 26:28
  [SPEAKER_05]: You got a couple that he got roughed up.
• 26:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: But for the most part, everybody was on board with it because they were good moves at the time.
• 26:33
  [SPEAKER_05]: Again, low bar, I'm not saying it's not a low bar.
• 26:35
  [SPEAKER_05]: You're saying, but the issue is that again,
• 26:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: Right, and that's your problem and it's at this point.
• 26:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: It sounds absurd, but it's true Lane Thomas was a better fridge or trade Deadline.
• 26:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: I saw those tweets out there and right feet.
• 26:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, no, he's not there was a start.
• 26:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, no, he's not that playoff moment Not for us.
• 26:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: I've like had that ball gone out and I think it was like I'm sure Kate would know this Oh, like one 11 ball parks that ball.
• 27:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: No, it was like 16 or 19 like that ball goes out 16 or not.
• 27:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's a slightly different.
• 27:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: He's a savior golden scenario nobody cares about correct if he doesn't get a hit today I mean
• 27:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: Do you have questions about bringing him back?
• 27:12
  [SPEAKER_05]: No, because again, I can't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
• 27:16
  [SPEAKER_05]: As crap.
• 27:17
  [SPEAKER_05]: And again, wait a minute.
• 27:18
  [SPEAKER_05]: If it goes bad today, I know it's the three-game sample that's more important than a month's worth of regular season.
• 27:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: I get that, but I can't throw that all out.
• 27:29
  [SPEAKER_05]: And then yes, that's where the money comes in, where the lockout happens, whatever goes from there.
• 27:33
  [SPEAKER_05]: I can't throw this all the way just because it goes bad over a week of bad baseball.
• 27:37
  [SPEAKER_05]: But that's the problem that is the playoffs.
• 27:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: You don't get to say, well, we're gonna play three weeks for the baseball and see who comes out on top.
• 27:45
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's not how this goes.
• 27:47
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's not how this goes.
• 27:49
  [SPEAKER_05]: The issue that lies with the Cleveland Guardians.
• 27:52
  [SPEAKER_05]: I know you wanna be angry at the Dolans.
• 27:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: I know you wanna yell at Chris Antonelli.
• 27:56
  [SPEAKER_05]: I know we wanna go throw Stephen Volt in the lake.
• 27:58
  [SPEAKER_05]: This falls on the line up.
• 28:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: that's it.
• 28:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: This falls on the lineup is vote not helping at some points.
• 28:07
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, probably I wouldn't have pulled Gavin Williams when I did, but here we are like,
• 28:14
  [SPEAKER_05]: It is the lineup and how you want to approach the game with an injured Jose Ramirez with guys that are in the middle of your lineup that are just slumping.
• 28:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: And you want another worst part of it, the white socks know that.
• 28:28
  [SPEAKER_05]: And that's to your point.
• 28:29
  [SPEAKER_05]: They have no fear of pitching toes and Ramirez.
• 28:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: There is no fear of throwing strikes to on how Martinez right now because again, they're scoring runs.
• 28:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: They're getting runs up so that helps them even more.
• 28:40
  [SPEAKER_05]: and then when you're not creating, to your point about guard's boss frustrating is, we're not even managing your factoring these runs.
• 28:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like, where, again, runners and scoring position.
• 28:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: What has it been in this series?
• 28:52
  [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't even look it up, I should have, sorry, bad stand on me.
• 28:58
  [SPEAKER_05]: Guardians, runners and scoring position, hitting this series.
• 29:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: They have gone over five in the first two games.
• 29:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: with runners and scoring position.
• 29:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's not even enough opportunity.
• 29:12
  [SPEAKER_05]: I was just right.
• 29:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's the angered part.
• 29:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: You got five at bats with guys and runners and scoring position.
• 29:19
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's got to be flookie though because low had the chopper.
• 29:23
  [SPEAKER_05]: They scored one run on a hit.
• 29:25
  [SPEAKER_05]: The throwing air scored the second one.
• 29:27
  [SPEAKER_05]: That can't be true.
• 29:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: You don't think they were both on the air?
• 29:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: No, first one was.
• 29:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: First one was the earned run.
• 29:32
  [SPEAKER_05]: The second one was the earned run.
• 29:33
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm throwing air.
• 29:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: Not sure.
• 29:35
  [SPEAKER_05]: So that had to have been at least one.
• 29:39
  [SPEAKER_05]: Regardless, but I go again again again again.
• 29:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: We're not going to debate that's not arguing right that that that that we're not going to argue there I I'm with you.
• 29:47
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's not good enough.
• 29:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: Anyway.
• 29:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: You want to slice the analytically one game.
• 29:50
  [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, Kenny Is it weird that he kept his job?
• 29:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, listen, what are your thoughts on this?
• 30:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: I saw pictures and somebody was, I don't know, somebody put on to what I'm sorry for the credit, but yeah, there were pictures of Kenny Atkins and after the next loss and steam vote of the white socks lost in both managers of recycling.
• 30:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: Now I'm not just asking you for your opinion.
• 30:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: No, and then they were like Todd Monk and what even that smile after our win.
• 30:16
  [SPEAKER_05]: No, it's there's different mentalities because you also got to remember like they what's the context that somebody say something funny was it was it a funny question And like again as we live and die by this I don't question their professionalism or their buy it.
• 30:32
  [SPEAKER_05]: I just don't, you know, and that's the same thing was Steven vote like
• 30:37
  [SPEAKER_05]: I can't throw a baby out of the bathwater.
• 30:38
  [SPEAKER_05]: I saw tweets of people like just leave, go take the Seattle go.
• 30:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: Just get out of here.
• 30:42
  [SPEAKER_05]: Just go to, that's crazy.
• 30:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's cold slow down, calm down, exactly.
• 30:45
  [SPEAKER_05]: Please, come on, no.
• 30:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: Come on, no.
• 30:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: I get that you're angry and sometimes when you're in the moment, you don't even know who to direct the angry.
• 30:53
  [SPEAKER_05]: Right?
• 30:55
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's the line up.
• 30:56
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's the line up.
• 30:57
  [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, tell y'all to say this.
• 30:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: Shut me up.
• 31:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: Go put seven runs up tonight, today at four o'clock.
• 31:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: Smoke their ass, and we'll see what we're at tomorrow.
• 31:08
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's all I ask.
• 31:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: Beyond that, I don't wanna say this.
• 31:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't wanna say this at all, but there's also a sobering possibility that this is the last Guardian's game that you see for a long, long, long time.
• 31:28
  [SPEAKER_05]: God, I don't want it to go down like that.
• 31:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: You think about that?
• 31:32
  [SPEAKER_05]: We gotta stew on this if they don't play next year.
• 31:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: which I don't please to the baseball gods.
• 31:40
  [SPEAKER_05]: There will be baseball at some point next year.
• 31:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: I hope they get this thing.
• 31:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: I know it's not going to be that way.
• 31:44
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's going to be tooth and nail and fight this out.
• 31:47
  [SPEAKER_05]: Hey, man, you get a floor.
• 31:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: You got to spend some money.
• 31:49
  [SPEAKER_05]: There you go.
• 31:50
  [SPEAKER_05]: I play a guard.
• 31:51
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• 33:25
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• 33:28
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• 33:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: All right, we got questions.
• 33:32
  [SPEAKER_05]: We need answers.
• 33:33
  [SPEAKER_05]: Kate Krakis going to join us now.
• 33:35
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• 33:39
  [SPEAKER_05]: Kate, we've got all the questions.
• 33:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: We're the only one way to find out the answers.
• 33:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: And we'll do that later tonight or four o'clock.
• 33:45
  [SPEAKER_05]: I keep saying tonight, it's four o'clock.
• 33:47
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to ask you the same question Ryan asked me.
• 33:49
  [SPEAKER_05]: If you were to point blame at the roster, the front office, the coaching staff specifically, hitting pitching, like, where are you pointing the blame right now for the Guardians being down O2?
• 33:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: As a great question, and to be honest with you, Matt, I think you have to point towards the offense.
• 34:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: And the reason why I say that is because the starting pitching looked phenomenal in both games, and Steven wrote talked about it a couple of different times this year, Matt, but you can't ask much more from your starting pitching rotation when they're giving you, you know, two, three, earn runs or less in a start, because if that's the case, that should be enough to put the offensive position to go out there and get the job done.
• 34:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: If not, at least pay way for the bullpen to keep the game in hand.
• 34:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: The issue is we saw in both games.
• 34:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: The game was turned over to the bullpen.
• 34:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was already behind.
• 34:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: So you can't really shift blame to the pitching staff when the offense is the team that pretty much lost things from the get-go.
• 34:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm curious to see Matt, you know, how they come out tonight because that's the deciding factor.
• 34:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: If the pitching staff goes out there and only gives up a runner to runs, the issue is the offense isn't enough to show that they can come back that or get ahead of that.
• 34:49
  [SPEAKER_05]: the runners and scoring position specifically for me to kid like we know right now we're kind of laughing about guards ball and how they just got to play different when I'm playing guards ball right now they're not even the man you factoring these runs you're not getting guys on to steal bases or just move or just put some pressure on some things.
• 35:05
  [SPEAKER_05]: We haven't gotten the lineup yet today I'm not a big proponent of like blowing things up you know because of must win game and changing the lineup but you think that there's anything that we might see differently with the lineup when vote or
• 35:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's a great question man.
• 35:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's it's one that I talked about 19 through the fan last night.
• 35:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's it's hard to change things up because what are you going to put in, you know, Matt like that's the thing like the bench is not there for a reason.
• 35:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: They've also struggled a lot this year.
• 35:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: PD help and it's been a guy who hasn't really delivered.
• 35:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, on Hill, and now hasn't really delivered in the in their guys that, you know, have moments obviously where they, they look the part, but then they're just not consistent enough to get everyday line up opportunities and then you could potentially say David Fryer and Nathaniel low of the guys that you're probably arguing on who should go in the line up and I like Nathaniel low because game one he looked the park he had a double and then a walk as well drawn.
• 35:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'd like to see him start and then you turn to the catcher positions at Patrick Bailey or is it awesome edges and I think it's got to be awesome edges give your pitching staff a chance to go out there and play with some comfort and then if you need that bat later in the game you turn to Patrick Bailey but no it's going to be likely probably what we saw on game one at least when it comes to lineup.
• 36:12
  [SPEAKER_05]: you know, I do like a couple of things.
• 36:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: I I joked I can't take David for I'm not in the middle of the lineup.
• 36:16
  [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, maybe there's a spot for him like 70 but I don't dislike him off the bench.
• 36:21
  [SPEAKER_05]: And I don't dislike Patrick Bailey coming off the bench as a switchhater too.
• 36:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: So that's why I'm right there with you.
• 36:27
  [SPEAKER_05]: I would start hedges.
• 36:28
  [SPEAKER_05]: You know, here tonight to give just even again, a spino who's gonna need to be calm down a little bit.
• 36:33
  [SPEAKER_05]: You know, no matter how much the nerves on him, let's go to a spino here for a second.
• 36:37
  [SPEAKER_05]: Kate, I like it.
• 36:38
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think that was their plan all along.
• 36:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: I like sticking to the plan.
• 36:42
  [SPEAKER_05]: I know it's not with the world that you want to live in, but if he can just give you those couple of innings, I joked with Ryan a runner hit second base, a spino's out of the game.
• 36:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: He gives up any sort of home run.
• 36:52
  [SPEAKER_05]: He's out of the game.
• 36:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: Beyond that, well, let's just start with the spino.
• 36:56
  [SPEAKER_05]: So I do want to ask you who you think's going to come out after him.
• 36:58
  [SPEAKER_05]: But let's just start with the spino.
• 36:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: I liked it.
• 37:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: They're sticking to their plan.
• 37:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't mind him getting the start today.
• 37:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't think you can be upset by putting a speed no out there because he's shown that he can open the games well and I know that he had that one showing where he gave I think it was a hit three walks and three runs and that's okay because we've seen the the biggest thing we've seen from a speed no all season long map is that ability and a comfort ability to make changes and adapt to the things that come his way.
• 37:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's not really making the same mistakes more than once.
• 37:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: which is a great sign for a young pitcher.
• 37:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: And the thing too is you want to give him some sort of confidence because either way, if you get bounced today and you go down in a sweep in the ALDS, at least you gave a spino a chance to go out there and show what he has in the post season.
• 37:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's like we got with the lot of last season.
• 37:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was great for his development to seem in the post season.
• 37:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, I like the choice of putting a spino out there.
• 37:52
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to think about a game four, but it's also kind of Steven votes job to think about that, but your call K to do you think should come out of the pen right after a spino.
• 38:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's going to be, it's going to be a major question mark.
• 38:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think that they're probably going to go between either Joey, Cantillo, Tanner, Bobby, Foster, Griffin, and in the reason why all three of those were mentioned is because they want to keep the white socks on their toes.
• 38:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
• 38:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: They don't want to put them in a situation where you go out there and you know, immediately it's going to be Joey Cantillo.
• 38:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: Although I think it is going to be, and I'd like it to be.
• 38:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
• 38:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: Throwing out those names just gives them an opportunity to,
• 38:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: I guess give the white sock something else to think about because there may be as a world where you go from a spino if he goes in any you go to a tanner for two and then Joey for three or four, you know, I don't I don't see that that being out of the equation, but I do think that they're not going to overcomplicate things.
• 38:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: They know they're in a win now situation.
• 38:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's going to probably be a spino then can pillow for four or five innings.
• 38:47
  [SPEAKER_05]: you know, and we really thought about this case, rock is joining us our guardians be reported here a big plan or thought of this either guys like what if it's it would there is a runner on second and you got to go to like Gattys or something just to get you out of the third inning or something like that and then go back over.
• 39:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: you know, it's one of the other starters that could totally be a possibility.
• 39:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: And to your point, I think you're right, because no matter what, you are keeping the white socks off till, you know, Spino's right-handed can tell is left handed if you had to switch just strictly.
• 39:14
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm with you.
• 39:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'd rather just, I'd probably see cans.
• 39:17
  [SPEAKER_05]: I guess foster Griffin's lefty too, but just to throw them off for a second.
• 39:20
  [SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, that could be something to where you got, I don't know about subrowski, man.
• 39:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: I just, I'm so proud.
• 39:25
  [SPEAKER_05]: and they were supposed to right now, but like there could be something you got to get a two outside of a guy to get out of the inning and then you can turn it back over to kind of one of the other starters there.
• 39:35
  [SPEAKER_05]: When you think about where the Guardian sit right now,
• 39:40
  [SPEAKER_05]: and we talked about the middle of that lineup where it's just Adele it's hard because it's two games cable like Adele Nathaniel Low Bazana's not been good in this postseason like even Rokie I mean a whole lineup's been bad but if there's a guy not name Steven Kwan not named Jose Ramirez the guy that's going to make this lineup go today who are you looking at?
• 40:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: I that's a great question.
• 40:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just think it has like I know we don't want to point out the obvious guys and it's understandably so I think that if there's a guy who just has like a moment today or he gets this line up to go I think it's got to be Stephen quantum because I think you have to start off the line up right you know in the map.
• 40:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: I know we want to point to like.
• 40:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: maybe the power bats in a Dell or the spark plug in Travis Bazana.
• 40:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I think if you're looking for a guy to really like the spark early in a game, it's even quant.
• 40:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like if he can go up there and do what he did to finish the regular season, get on base with a couple of walks, have a couple of knocks, go three for five, four for five.
• 40:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's going to set this team up for a lot of success.
• 40:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: But the moment that the start of your lineup doesn't get going, the rest of the lineup has that pressure, hey, I got to perform now, or I've got to get the I've got to be the needle in the
• 40:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's going to turn from Stephen Kwon to the back half of the lamp as well.
• 40:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think Brian Roke Jr's have a good game because Roke, you am pretty sure, is hitless right now through the first two games.
• 41:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, same thing.
• 41:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think I think with Bazana, I think with Adele and it's more, oh, not Adele.
• 41:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry.
• 41:07
  [SPEAKER_05]: He had that big, that big triple actually.
• 41:10
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know how Martinez.
• 41:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, he is, too.
• 41:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: And I think that's kind of the more frustrating thing too guys.
• 41:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's like when when you get one of those guys up at the plate and it's like they strike out.
• 41:18
  [SPEAKER_05]: You don't even put the ball on play like that's that's the super frustrating thing.
• 41:22
  [SPEAKER_05]: I get with the anger.
• 41:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's going to eventually come back to Steven vote.
• 41:27
  [SPEAKER_05]: Kate, how much do you think he deserves the blame in this?
• 41:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: And you think he's starting to lose a little bit of faith with some of the fanbase.
• 41:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think he is and I think so is who is your mirrors and so is a good chunk of this front office and if I mean, if they're even is some faith to lose there because that's been a constant scrutiny of this team for a while now, but I don't know how much I can place blame on Steve and vote for what we've seen through games one and two.
• 41:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: The only thing I will say is that that change from Gavin Williams, I would have liked to see him go through the six, but that change, but Eric's rescue ended up being the deciding factor and that you can't shy away from that.
• 42:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: However,
• 42:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Stephen Vote can only do what he can with this offense and it goes back that first question I asked you or that you asked about Matt of who do you turn to and and the why don't who can you turn to and the why don't it's the same guys that are going to give the same productivity everywhere that you're just trying to hope that someone breaks out of their slumber right now.
• 42:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: What I will say though is that the area that Steven vote did kind of have issues with all season long as that bullpen, but as well, you probably, if Colin Holderman was healthy, you probably turned to Colin Holderman right after Gavin and Game 2, because Holderman's shown in this year, he's been that bridge relief.
• 42:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: I guess you threw from the starter to like the actual bullpen bullpen itself, and he's done that job really well.
• 42:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: So instead you try to go to
• 42:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: that bullpen is just so untrustworthy.
• 42:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Which is why I could very well see today.
• 42:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: Matt, vote, try to go, is Spino, maybe Tanner Foster, Joey, but see two of those three.
• 42:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then probably get around to the Nebraska that Gattis or just the Smith late in the seven eight nine spots, cause I think he's gonna really want that starting rotation to get some action today and eat up some innings.
• 43:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: And especially again, Kade, like, somebody's gonna, if we get it done, we play tomorrow, you're gonna need some, I know everything's got to be about winning today.
• 43:17
  [SPEAKER_05]: And God, I just told them to do it at home.
• 43:19
  [SPEAKER_05]: I really, I just, there's every part of me that just wants to get back to Cleveland to see if we can get a game five, but it all comes down today.
• 43:25
  [SPEAKER_05]: Final thing, Kade, how you feel it?
• 43:27
  [SPEAKER_05]: How do you think it plays out today there on the south side?
• 43:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no, it's a great question.
• 43:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was thinking out this morning when I was driving into work.
• 43:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, what is it going to look like today?
• 43:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, what do we think?
• 43:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: And to be honest with you, I'm going to, I'm going to say it's going to be a bounce back.
• 43:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: And the reason why I say that Matt is because we're going to all season long where we're this team is gone dry.
• 43:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: One, two, three, four, five, six games in a row.
• 43:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: We see maybe three walks in the head or we see seven walks and three hits.
• 43:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: or we see no runs or one or two runs, right?
• 43:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's the name of the game we've seen it all year long with them.
• 43:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: Tonight, I feel like we're going to see a 6, 7, 8, 9 run game from this offense because they've shown it this season that they can bounce back.
• 44:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'd love to see it tonight.
• 44:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: Final score prediction on give it to you just for just for the fun of it.
• 44:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I want to go 7, 4, 7, 4 guards win.
• 44:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: Love it love the over minus the run and a half we we will get to our parlay where I just took the guardians on the money line This is also funny two cages we're ready to go for today Somebody tweeted a picture of it.
• 44:21
  [SPEAKER_05]: Is it still guaranteed ratefield aren't they didn't they name something It's a race Great, okay.
• 44:27
  [SPEAKER_05]: I know they somebody.
• 44:28
  [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, no.
• 44:28
  [SPEAKER_05]: Comerica is going away.
• 44:29
  [SPEAKER_05]: They name something for Detroit.
• 44:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: That aside.
• 44:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: It looks like a beautiful day there And you can get into this game for the same price if you combine all three other games today
• 44:39
  [SPEAKER_05]: You may Atlanta, you could be in New York.
• 44:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: You could be in San Diego and buy a ticket get in price.
• 44:45
  [SPEAKER_05]: All of those don't even add up to that concern.
• 44:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Does that concern you, Matt, for fans?
• 44:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 44:50
  [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I mean, think about that.
• 44:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's what I'm saying is it's, they've been so wandering the desert for so long.
• 44:56
  [SPEAKER_05]: And they've, they see the oasis across the way.
• 44:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like I get a 100% 100% I understand.
• 45:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: So the tickets get in price about 300 bucks to get in.
• 45:05
  [SPEAKER_05]: for tickets there for the game tonight, and then you can get any other games about 100 each for all the other ones, so there you go.
• 45:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: It is great.
• 45:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's in a way.
• 45:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't want it to be against us, but it's good for that.
• 45:17
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's good for baseball, white socks, and been a long time coming, but I'm with you.
• 45:20
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think we get the win.
• 45:21
  [SPEAKER_05]: Everybody foul, Kate, on Twitter for all the updates.
• 45:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: He's one of the best when it comes to the latest with the guards.
• 45:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: We'll be watching, Kate, when they win, we will have you on to recap it and we'll have you on next week, all right?
• 45:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Sounds great.
• 45:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let's hope for one of your math.
• 45:33
  [SPEAKER_05]: Let's get it done.
• 45:34
  [SPEAKER_05]: He's a great kid.
• 45:35
  [SPEAKER_05]: Crack as you can, Mrs. Kate's so good on Twitter, man.
• 45:37
  [SPEAKER_05]: He's got so many good insights, just the latest news, and all that kind of stuff.
• 45:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: How about that?
• 45:42
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
• 45:42
  [SPEAKER_05]: Southside.
• 45:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: 300 bucks to get in.
• 45:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's insane.
• 45:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: But again, David Waiten, if I wanted to see a team when the world series is here besides the Guardians, is it not the White Talks?
• 45:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: I guess anybody with the Dodgers?
• 45:56
  [SPEAKER_05]: The Brewers.
• 45:58
  [SPEAKER_05]: Brewers.
• 46:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I don't really care for it like in socks like if I don't have a team and I'm just going for the narrative white socks to be the best but then it's like they'll central and like whatever phase I'd rather pick the brewers I go brewers, but that's just me Um, um, on the money line white socks minus 126 the overrunner is set at eight Which Kate obviously likes the over there.
• 46:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: Can you make me some money, please?
• 46:22
  [SPEAKER_05]: I got you a parlay you want to cook a brother.
• 46:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: Let's go.
• 46:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: Here we go.
• 46:25
  [SPEAKER_05]: We need it.
• 46:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: All right number one
• 46:28
  [SPEAKER_05]: Here's my thought plot.
• 46:29
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's plot.
• 46:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, you have the plus.
• 46:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: I can't see the plus.
• 46:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: My eyes are no plus three 95.
• 46:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: I got a little boost.
• 46:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: No names please sports book.
• 46:37
  [SPEAKER_05]: Here we go.
• 46:38
  [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you for my old eyes.
• 46:39
  [SPEAKER_05]: I can't see a ranch to be the best of this game for me.
• 46:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you very much.
• 46:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: I appreciate it.
• 46:44
  [SPEAKER_05]: All right.
• 46:44
  [SPEAKER_05]: Number one, I'm liking this Hozequan combo of two plus hits runs RBI's because here's my thought process.
• 46:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's kind of exactly what happened there in the in in game two.
• 46:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: You get quant on and then I know it was low, but then Hoze gets on either knocks in mid or he fouls them around.
• 47:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: Two plus hits runs RBI's needs it, man.
• 47:07
  [SPEAKER_05]: I need you, brother.
• 47:08
  [SPEAKER_05]: As big hit, I hope that loosens him up to have all my goodness.
• 47:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: I bet I'll get that fell for him.
• 47:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: And there is no tomorrow.
• 47:16
  [SPEAKER_05]: Gards win.
• 47:17
  [SPEAKER_05]: Gards win.
• 47:18
  [SPEAKER_05]: So we'll ride that.
• 47:19
  [SPEAKER_05]: Gards win, quan, and hos they each two hits runs RBS.
• 47:22
  [SPEAKER_05]: And I love that bet because again, it's any combination.
• 47:25
  [SPEAKER_05]: You can have two singles, you could have two sack flies and score two RBIs.
• 47:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: Doesn't matter.
• 47:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: You catch that and Joe Adele just to get it hit.
• 47:33
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's all it matters.
• 47:33
  [SPEAKER_05]: So I like it, guards win a little par like cooking for us as we get rolling.
• 47:38
  [SPEAKER_05]: All right, you want to flip over with socks and browns here.
• 47:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: So this whole, this three and one start.
• 47:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: This team is legit.
• 47:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't think that was a true thing.
• 47:52
  [SPEAKER_05]: you watch that game Thursday night which is what we all asked for going into that game Ryan was show me that you're working with some here show me what you're working with like this is a team I saw the defense make plays when they needed to I saw the offense move the ball when they needed to
• 48:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: Jerry Joodie who I had pretty much put out the for sale sign on yeah I love I'll take my little part of it I'll give it to you for a second I'm not going to not trade him because a one drive the right call comes I'm still trading Jerry Joodie oh Jesus Christ it's where it was a couple like what if Casey was in that role I know he's out there but what if my grandma had I had my grandma family show family show
• 48:40
  [SPEAKER_05]: where is case he can set shots in by the way.
• 48:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean you're talking prime time a guy who didn't log a catch or one catch Who at the first four weeks two catches through first four weeks back to back game game.
• 48:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: I She's against against a rival.
• 48:53
  [SPEAKER_05]: This isn't an angry Jerry Judy take.
• 48:56
  [SPEAKER_05]: This isn't me kicking about the door I think it's a doctor.
• 48:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: I just think that it's I just died.
• 49:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't see how you could say trade Jerry Judy while we're winning
• 49:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I don't even want to hear what that is okay.
• 49:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: You're right.
• 49:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's actually probably the best argument that anybody can give me your winning.
• 49:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: Don't mess with anything all listen to sure.
• 49:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know what you got me you got me on that one love Casey and Denzel, but again, they're rookies.
• 49:17
  [SPEAKER_05]: You need them.
• 49:19
  [SPEAKER_05]: We have to line up.
• 49:21
  [SPEAKER_05]: Literally three minutes ago.
• 49:29
  [SPEAKER_05]: We'll pull that up and you can take a look at it in a second.
• 49:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: Just came down.
• 49:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: So he just think you dropped the Pazata.
• 49:34
  [SPEAKER_05]: Bailey gets the start over hedges.
• 49:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think those are probably too big a thing.
• 49:37
  [SPEAKER_05]: All right, we'll take a look at the card design.
• 49:39
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not like, again, did Jerry, did we need those catches?
• 49:42
  [SPEAKER_05]: We have not won the game without Jerry due to making those catches.
• 49:45
  [SPEAKER_05]: 1,000%.
• 49:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not debating that.
• 49:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: You made the strongest argument.
• 49:49
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's the first one that really got me thinking.
• 49:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: You're winning.
• 49:52
  [SPEAKER_05]: You don't touch it.
• 49:53
  [SPEAKER_05]: You don't mess with it.
• 49:55
  [SPEAKER_05]: Now, in the process of us winning, did you see another really good game from Deshawn Watson?
• 50:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, you did.
• 50:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, you did.
• 50:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: And for the naysayers and for, I'm gonna say haters, but you have a reason too.
• 50:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: I get where you're coming from.
• 50:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, one that good.
• 50:12
  [SPEAKER_05]: You're not playing.
• 50:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
• 50:17
  [SPEAKER_05]: Drullock.
• 50:20
  [SPEAKER_05]: Case Kingdom, Marcus Mario.
• 50:22
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't like where this is going.
• 50:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: You see guys that are backups, get on a team, a team, and win some games with offense involved in a defense making place.
• 50:38
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's what I think's going out with the Browns now too.
• 50:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: Are the Browns the Chicago Bears?
• 50:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: See how I'll see Hawks, absolutely not.
• 50:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let's not get this twisted.
• 50:50
  [SPEAKER_05]: quarterback play.
• 50:52
  [SPEAKER_05]: Sometimes it's all you need.
• 50:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: So now inevitably people are starting to talk, well, wait a minute.
• 50:58
  [SPEAKER_05]: When we were signed to Sean Watson, there's a no way, just like Aaron Roder's not thrown for 300 yards, Sean Watts is not signing extension with the Cleveland round.
• 51:10
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's not happening.
• 51:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
• 51:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let me ask you this.
• 51:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: Is it because the Sean doesn't want to or the Browns wouldn't have.
• 51:16
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think two things.
• 51:17
  [SPEAKER_05]: Number one,
• 51:18
  [SPEAKER_05]: There is nothing that will get the Brown's off of this path of drafting a quarterback, and that comes back to the teen concept that I'm talking about.
• 51:25
  [SPEAKER_05]: Is it just as easy?
• 51:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like, oh, I could just throw, I don't know, you know, tied Ty Simpson or Fernando Meadows, they'd be doing the same thing.
• 51:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: Probably not, but what I'm saying is, you've actually crossed a threshold here.
• 51:35
  [SPEAKER_05]: I really feel like the Browns have finally crossed over into having this full and complete team.
• 51:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: For a long time, it was just the defense that was dragging the offense along and then you got some magic with Flacco.
• 51:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: You finally have this where I see everybody making plays.
• 51:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: Again, you could pull calls and say the Steelers and the Panthers and the Buccaneers suck.
• 51:55
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'll listen to that for a second.
• 51:56
  [SPEAKER_05]: Sure, fine.
• 51:57
  [SPEAKER_05]: But what I'm saying is this is actually the perfect environment to bring in a rookie quarterback to start right away.
• 52:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: No, I'll give you this.
• 52:05
  [SPEAKER_05]: You have to have that Kirk Cousins veteran.
• 52:07
  [SPEAKER_05]: You've got to have a Jacobi percent type that will start the season next year.
• 52:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: The rookie plays when they're ready.
• 52:14
  [SPEAKER_05]: Look how great it's going for the Vegas Raiders.
• 52:16
  [SPEAKER_05]: If they send me those all, you're good.
• 52:18
  [SPEAKER_05]: You know he's gonna be your starter one day.
• 52:20
  [SPEAKER_05]: Nothing is getting the browns off of a path of drafting a quarterback with their first pick.
• 52:25
  [SPEAKER_05]: And hell, at this point the ramps pick might be ahead of our pick.
• 52:29
  [SPEAKER_05]: You know, you never know.
• 52:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: With that in mind.
• 52:32
  [SPEAKER_05]: Number one, the Sean Watson is not signing up for that.
• 52:35
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think he's going to sign up to go somewhere that he can actually legitimately be the starter.
• 52:40
  [SPEAKER_05]: Now, you're going to say what, how many jobs could there be right for him?
• 52:45
  [SPEAKER_05]: Plus the baggage, this kind of is probably.
• 52:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: The second point which I think is the more important one, I don't think Sean Watson wants to be here anymore.
• 52:55
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like, am I reading too much into that one report that he just, he really never wanted to be here.
• 53:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's obviously gone terrible.
• 53:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: This has been a really, really self-inflicted, hard chapter of his life.
• 53:08
  [SPEAKER_05]: And I think he would love nothing more than to close that.
• 53:10
  [SPEAKER_05]: And then the final thing is he doesn't need the money.
• 53:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: He very clearly doesn't.
• 53:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: So I think he would rather go anywhere else.
• 53:19
  [SPEAKER_05]: and play football, then stay with the Cleveland Browns.
• 53:22
  [SPEAKER_05]: I just think it's one of those, it's just, it's gonna happen.
• 53:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: And for the Browns, I don't think that's a bad thing for them either.
• 53:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: As great as the start has been and I want them to win, I want them to continue to win, nothing gets fixed until you draft your franchise quarterback.
• 53:38
  [SPEAKER_05]: They will hopefully, God willing, do that, coming up in the next draft, don't let anything impede that.
• 53:45
  [SPEAKER_05]: And yes, they would have to go out there and find their their I don't know you know whoever right to to be your bridge I that that's how I want this to run next year to by the way I want some veteran to start what's my favorite example right Drake may I loved what the Patriots do with him a couple years ago you bring it was a Jacobi percent I think he starts Jacobi I don't care how good you're playing Drake may's going in there when he's ready now you see what they did last year See what you're doing this year
• 54:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe a little car ahead of the horse.
• 54:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: This is a strong Christian man and does not agree with what Mike Rabel did.
• 54:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: He's that with the downfall is.
• 54:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 54:23
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's conspiracy.
• 54:23
  [SPEAKER_05]: They're all listening to that.
• 54:25
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'll take all of it.
• 54:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'll take all of it.
• 54:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: Man, I have a lot of, there's a lot of it.
• 54:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: No, no, no, no, no, you were going to get me in a lot of a trail.
• 54:34
  [SPEAKER_05]: No, I'm not saying to do it.
• 54:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: No, no, I was going to say something else.
• 54:37
  [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
• 54:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: Look at the thing we didn't do that.
• 54:39
  [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe show them off.
• 54:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: Do you think?
• 54:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: What do you say?
• 54:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: Do you think the Sean Watson's attitude about wanting to be here could change because they totally have it totally good.
• 54:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think you're already seeing a shift in the way he's speaking to the media and granite when winning comes that's easier.
• 54:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 54:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: And listen sports aren't the most morally or ethically right place.
• 54:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: But you know if the Sean plays well this fan base majority of them.
• 55:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let's be real.
• 55:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's going to embrace him.
• 55:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: Good.
• 55:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: You think he's already starting to kind of see that and we can listen to
• 55:05
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but you have the great clip.
• 55:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: You great job cutting this clip.
• 55:08
  [SPEAKER_05]: This is from Saturday, Irmsley last Thursday, actually, right after the game.
• 55:12
  [SPEAKER_05]: And he spoke about kind of his mental state and it's changing audio video courtesy to the Cleveland Browns here.
• 55:17
  [SPEAKER_05]: Sean Watson.
• 55:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I'm healthy.
• 55:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: My mental is straight.
• 55:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: My emotions is super good.
• 55:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: especially I'm in a great space so you know we have all four wheels rolling and now in the right pace you know things can can be able to you know you can be able to improve and and show that you know you capable of being that special player that person you are so that's how that's pretty much it
• 55:47
  [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it was always just going to be about winning, yeah, you feel better when you're winning, but also what it did, it calm the fan base a little bit.
• 55:55
  [SPEAKER_05]: It calms some things down.
• 55:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: Now they go out there and lose four straight.
• 55:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's going to be a different story.
• 56:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: And I think it's just like anything in life when you, I mean, this is just real stuff.
• 56:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: When you got stuff at work, and sometimes you bring it home,
• 56:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: or you got things at work or at home that come with you in the car and you show up at work.
• 56:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's life, man.
• 56:14
  [SPEAKER_05]: We all do with that.
• 56:16
  [SPEAKER_05]: Now again, was his self-inflicted in some of that shirt and some of the stuff in all of our own lives are self-inflicted 100%.
• 56:22
  [SPEAKER_05]: But that's just a rough way to go.
• 56:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: When you can't be that focused and like, let's not forget, too.
• 56:28
  [SPEAKER_05]: I know he's got 230 million dollars in the day.
• 56:29
  [SPEAKER_05]: I know he, it still is job, you know.
• 56:33
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's still, there's gotta be that L.M.
• 56:35
  [SPEAKER_05]: Lane Johnson just retired because of his mental health.
• 56:38
  [SPEAKER_05]: You heard Joe Thomas, well, saw the clip on Joe said he goes, I can't do this anymore.
• 56:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: I played a perfect game, we got smoke.
• 56:45
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like, that is real.
• 56:47
  [SPEAKER_05]: As much as we don't want, we think there's a barrier there.
• 56:49
  [SPEAKER_05]: There are people just like us.
• 56:50
  [SPEAKER_05]: Now again, I'm not trying to talk about what Watson did or didn't do or vilify him or what that conversation I'm so over it.
• 56:57
  [SPEAKER_05]: But like at this point, yeah, he was in a bad spot.
• 56:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: Now, is he in a better spot?
• 57:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: Sure, because they're winning.
• 57:03
  [SPEAKER_05]: And that's got to make him feel good that he still can do it that he can get out there and play it I guess there is a
• 57:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's sort of looking for there's like an element of it's I know it's not about the money I know he doesn't have to sit there worry about getting a contract.
• 57:17
  [SPEAKER_05]: He has a more money than he ever need right But I'm sure in the back of the set.
• 57:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: He's worried about where he is gonna play next year We squat there and just prove himself he can still do it if the brunt he can still find the wind and the Sean Watson plays as well as he's playing now I don't really think anybody anybody could agree that the play
• 57:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: Shouldn't warrant him an extension?
• 57:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: Obviously, there's other things about it, but would you be opposed to Deshawn Watson coming on for a one year?
• 57:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know 20 million dollar deal knowing that you're going to need that Veteran when you draft the rookie
• 57:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: because I think I'd be open to it.
• 57:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think I'm like, which, you asked me that months ago.
• 57:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh my god, I'm crazy.
• 57:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think I'm a lot like Deshawn Watson.
• 57:57
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm ready for this chapter to be closed.
• 57:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm glad that it's ending in a way on a high note, and I'm glad that there are,
• 58:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: If anything, I'm happy that they're setting the team up for future success.
• 58:07
  [SPEAKER_05]: You are teaching these young guys how to win.
• 58:10
  [SPEAKER_05]: They're feeling good about themselves.
• 58:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: Todd Monkin has already proven what I want to say at one point.
• 58:16
  [SPEAKER_05]: He just showed that he could win football.
• 58:17
  [SPEAKER_05]: And he's damn one three straight in a row.
• 58:21
  [SPEAKER_05]: Well done.
• 58:23
  [SPEAKER_05]: Check that off.
• 58:25
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's awesome.
• 58:28
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm, what did I talk about?
• 58:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: I was kind of, if you're a Monkin.
• 58:34
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm sold on Denzel Boss, and I'm sold on Spencer Fino.
• 58:37
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like, these are all steps and part of that is in thanks to the Sean Watson because he is the quarterback of this team and we're winning football games.
• 58:44
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think him for that doesn't mean I'm not ready to close this whole thing though.
• 58:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: I am.
• 58:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: And I bet he is too.
• 58:52
  [SPEAKER_05]: Now, it'll never be all come back to what.
• 58:55
  [SPEAKER_05]: There are only 32 of these jobs more than half of them are taken already by franchise,
• 59:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know why this time I'm a frog and the final thing, which I am an pleadingner and son, because I would have to talk to Jack, does that not an extension screw up the deadcap dummy year?
• 59:17
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know, I know you don't know, that's like a Jack question.
• 59:20
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like I was under the,
• 59:23
  [SPEAKER_05]: idea that they basically had no choice but to release him after this season, just because of how they set this up with the money and the dummy years and dead cap and spreading all around.
• 59:35
  [SPEAKER_05]: I could be wrong.
• 59:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to plead ignorance on that.
• 59:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'll shoot Jack a message.
• 59:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: Did they not release him in the sign of another one?
• 59:40
  [SPEAKER_05]: They could have released him.
• 59:44
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you're right.
• 59:44
  [SPEAKER_05]: They could release them and then sign to a brand new contract.
• 59:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe that'll change things or and again, this totally could be plausible.
• 59:50
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
• 59:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: There's always those things where extensions help that to because then you can spread the money even more.
• 59:55
  [SPEAKER_05]: I have no idea, but the other thing is, again, I just would I wonder if Watson would take that because you're not given him anything more than a year, right?
• 1:00:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: If you find that quarterback, if you draft that quarterback, which I think they're going to, then all you would give any bridge guy is a year.
• 1:00:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, maybe they're, I mean, I think if you if the Sean ends good this season and you went up to him and we're like, Oh, keep this wrong.
• 1:00:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: We're like you're going to get a guaranteed starting job plus the market.
• 1:00:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure like you said it's not going to be flooded for the Sean Watson.
• 1:00:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, come prove it another year.
• 1:00:32
  [SPEAKER_05]: Then you will have more suitors.
• 1:00:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
• 1:00:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm just sort of not here.
• 1:00:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like I think it could be a combinations of things.
• 1:00:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think they're I shouldn't be as close Mindy of it.
• 1:00:40
  [SPEAKER_05]: I need a joint.
• 1:00:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: I should not be as close minded as I am because what other These things are going to come in that would be better than to Sean Watson.
• 1:00:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: I can always find one of those guys You could always find one of those guys, but who would be a better option which crazy to say this now, but who'd be in the option then to Sean that would have a higher ceiling and already understand a year under month
• 1:01:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: Well, and the other thing is, do you find one of the, the, you try your money, Quillus, right?
• 1:01:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: Do you think Mac Jones showed you something?
• 1:01:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: They were saying, Francisco or Drew Locke?
• 1:01:07
  [SPEAKER_05]: There was Seattle, so, so I'm gonna go throw a bunch of money at those guys.
• 1:01:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: But again, like fans won't want to hear probably still, but like that's kind of your perfect, well, what perfect avenue to not start your rookie right away?
• 1:01:18
  [SPEAKER_05]: I agree, let's, let's, let's go another full avenue, something crazy.
• 1:01:23
  [SPEAKER_05]: One of these franchise thought of guys does shake loose.
• 1:01:28
  [SPEAKER_05]: Jordan love C. J. Stroud, I think Jordan love is already too signed.
• 1:01:34
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm sure he is, but like, what if, but they're going to pay Bryce Young at this rate.
• 1:01:38
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's for sure.
• 1:01:38
  [SPEAKER_05]: The right songs getting paid.
• 1:01:39
  [SPEAKER_05]: But again, C. J. Stroud.
• 1:01:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like, let's, okay, strap maybe not you're right.
• 1:01:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe not George.
• 1:01:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: Stroud's the best example of what you're, what you're referring to.
• 1:01:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: And there's going to be some dumb team.
• 1:01:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I hope it's not the brans that are going to give him like $40, $50 million a year.
• 1:01:53
  [SPEAKER_05]: the mulliquillus the mulliquillus here's the guy that showed something i'll go a little bit because he was just a bad laco only got yeah twenty five or thirty love you see here's the crazy thing about your love's contract there's only two years left on it after this year well i don't know if it seems you got to pick up that contract you got to wait no a year
• 1:02:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: Hmm, just because I'm just super interested a trade of a post June one trade would save the packers, but they're not going to get rid of there's going to get rid of I know I know I'm not saying I'm just thinking about teams that aren't living up to expectations and a quarterback situation maybe in flocks.
• 1:02:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: But that's what I'm saying.
• 1:02:29
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm completely down this path of the Browns drafting a guy finding a vet.
• 1:02:32
  [SPEAKER_05]: I need to open my mind that, yes, maybe that could be Sean Watson.
• 1:02:35
  [SPEAKER_05]: We also need to open our mind that maybe it's not about just finding and drafting a quarterback, which I don't, that's like this big on that list for me.
• 1:02:44
  [SPEAKER_05]: But at the end of the day, no matter what, the progression of this team for right now is not an amazing path and that's in part because of the Sean Watson.
• 1:02:53
  [SPEAKER_05]: But I also like,
• 1:02:55
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to sound negative.
• 1:02:56
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm sure the haters will be joining here on the YouTube chat on this one.
• 1:02:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: He's playing well.
• 1:03:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: He's not playing.
• 1:03:03
  [SPEAKER_05]: Super star level.
• 1:03:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think he's playing pretty damn good.
• 1:03:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: He's playing pretty good.
• 1:03:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: He's got what three three straight Re-strike game one drive game one drive touchdowns and he's the best in the fourth quarter when you need him There you go like he's exceeded every expectation like I want a hundred percent There is no world that I thought it was gonna go like this.
• 1:03:20
  [SPEAKER_05]: I really didn't I didn't and that's where like
• 1:03:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: Not to revisit all the past and stuff like that, but yeah, I mean those injuries that with the mental stuff to side about what the situation was that you put himself in, but it's like, yeah, very clearly he was hurt all the time.
• 1:03:35
  [SPEAKER_05]: Keep him upright put him in the right system.
• 1:03:39
  [SPEAKER_05]: There's winning football to be played.
• 1:03:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: Do you want to talk about the story video or not?
• 1:03:45
  [SPEAKER_05]: Did you see it?
• 1:03:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'm on the side.
• 1:03:49
  [SPEAKER_05]: There's a video, the Browns, when they want to score that last touchdown, and Shidorah is just disengaged on the side of that.
• 1:03:56
  [SPEAKER_05]: And everybody wants to jump on this, because it's Shidorah Sanders, and then of course still in Gabriel, all his all it was was he was activated off the window.
• 1:04:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: So that means he just says to go out to practice, they have 21 days to put him back on the roster or trade him or do whatever they want to do it.
• 1:04:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, that's not to do this.
• 1:04:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: Please, please, cut him some slack.
• 1:04:20
  [SPEAKER_05]: How do you know what he was doing?
• 1:04:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe he was intently listening to the play, or intently, are we going for tool like what's going on?
• 1:04:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: I get that there was not a lot of emotion there.
• 1:04:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: The dude isn't a really, really tough spot right now.
• 1:04:33
  [SPEAKER_05]: How would you feel if you were should or Sanders?
• 1:04:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: You played about as well as you thought you could have.
• 1:04:40
  [SPEAKER_05]: You showed up this off season.
• 1:04:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: You were here, you were in Todd Munkins office.
• 1:04:44
  [SPEAKER_05]: You're going through all this other kind of stuff and you don't even get a chance to play.
• 1:04:49
  [SPEAKER_05]: Let alone lose the starting quarterback job, and then as human nature, watch the guy of the beach out, go out there and play well.
• 1:04:57
  [SPEAKER_05]: You'd be pissed, too.
• 1:04:58
  [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, you'd be upset, too.
• 1:05:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: And especially knowing that a guy likes to door, there's only one more chance for him.
• 1:05:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't even know if it's going to be here.
• 1:05:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: And I'm not talking about him as Deon's kid in Storstein.
• 1:05:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry, my him is a fifth round quarterback.
• 1:05:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: A lot of those guys only get one shot.
• 1:05:18
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think he's afforded, too, because he played okay.
• 1:05:22
  [SPEAKER_05]: But he only got one more.
• 1:05:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: And I even think about that if him, I was advising him like, to do you try to force your way out of here to try to get somewhere else to play.
• 1:05:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think it all solve itself once the offseason comes in one way or another.
• 1:05:39
  [SPEAKER_05]: to prove himself that he can start in this league.
• 1:05:42
  [SPEAKER_05]: He imagine that pressure is a 22 year old kid, 22 years old, and you only got maybe one more shot to prove that you can make it in the career that you want so desperately and bad.
• 1:05:53
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not saying that that's not the world that we live in, and that's not the NFL, and I get all the hell it'll simply be towards it.
• 1:05:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: Everybody wants to jump on this, like, oh, he's such a crappy teammate, I'm just like, stop that, come on, Mel.
• 1:06:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: with one little clip of him on the sidelines.
• 1:06:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: Let's stop that.
• 1:06:07
  [SPEAKER_05]: We don't need to discuss that.
• 1:06:10
  [SPEAKER_05]: But the other thing is, this team very much seems to be together.
• 1:06:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: You know, the Todd, everybody saw the video, like we'll see on Tuesday and everybody goes crazy, he has brought this team together.
• 1:06:25
  [SPEAKER_05]: And the thing is inevitably what I saw Kevin's defense key tweets, which by the way, look at that, right?
• 1:06:32
  [SPEAKER_05]: Can't we all sit here and say it worked out for everybody?
• 1:06:35
  [SPEAKER_05]: It had very clearly run its course here.
• 1:06:38
  [SPEAKER_05]: You know where I stand in Kevin's defense.
• 1:06:40
  [SPEAKER_05]: I told you it was a good coach.
• 1:06:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: I still think he's a good coach.
• 1:06:42
  [SPEAKER_05]: Watch what he's doing in Atlanta.
• 1:06:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: But I'm happy to have Todd Munkin too.
• 1:06:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm over the moon now to have Todd Munkin.
• 1:06:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: You happy to have Dylan back?
• 1:06:50
  [SPEAKER_05]: What are they going to do them?
• 1:06:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's a great question.
• 1:06:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: I was going to ask you.
• 1:06:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: What are you going to do?
• 1:06:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: So, let's talk about this IR window for a second for people that don't know.
• 1:06:57
  [SPEAKER_05]: So they revamped the IR from several years ago.
• 1:07:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: If you put on, if you get put on IR in the preseason, you're done.
• 1:07:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: You can't play.
• 1:07:05
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like Jeremiah, who's Quorumoa, I think I put on Season 7 Puppar IR, can't play.
• 1:07:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: So the end season one is you are a minimum for a game's missed.
• 1:07:17
  [SPEAKER_05]: And then you need, it's just a minimum of four.
• 1:07:20
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think it's up to eight weeks, and then you just gotta go on season ending.
• 1:07:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: But Dylan hit his four.
• 1:07:29
  [SPEAKER_05]: Obviously his back is okay.
• 1:07:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: And now they open what's called the 21 day practice window.
• 1:07:35
  [SPEAKER_05]: So they have three weeks from Monday to activate or cut Dylan Gabriel or trade him.
• 1:07:44
  [SPEAKER_05]: But three weeks from Monday, something's got to be done.
• 1:07:47
  [SPEAKER_05]: He's allowed to go out and practice.
• 1:07:49
  [SPEAKER_05]: He's obviously been in the meeting rooms and done all that kind of stuff.
• 1:07:52
  [SPEAKER_05]: But three weeks from Monday, he's here on this roster where he's not.
• 1:07:55
  [SPEAKER_05]: So nothing needs to be done right now.
• 1:07:57
  [SPEAKER_05]: Now the thing is, he has got to be placed on the 53 man roster.
• 1:08:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: They cannot move him to the practice squad.
• 1:08:03
  [SPEAKER_05]: If they want to try to move the practice squad, they need to cut him.
• 1:08:07
  [SPEAKER_05]: He is a player with less than four years of service time, so he then goes on to waivers.
• 1:08:14
  [SPEAKER_05]: And every single team in the league through the reverse order of the standings has the right to claim Dylan Gabriel off of waivers.
• 1:08:20
  [SPEAKER_05]: If he goes unclamed on waivers, he's an unrestricted free agent.
• 1:08:23
  [SPEAKER_05]: You can sign him back to the practice squad, or he can go anywhere else and go on anybody else's practice squad.
• 1:08:28
  [SPEAKER_05]: When you claim player off waivers, you cannot put them on the practice squad.
• 1:08:32
  [SPEAKER_05]: They have to go on your 53 man roster.
• 1:08:34
  [SPEAKER_05]: You also pick up the contract that you had as a third round draft pick.
• 1:08:38
  [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't look at the numbers.
• 1:08:39
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know exactly how much guarantee money has left.
• 1:08:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's the situation with Dylan Gabriel.
• 1:08:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: So the question is what do you get to do?
• 1:08:47
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think they'll just find a place for him on the 53.
• 1:08:50
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like, and you may sit there saying, you're going to carry four quarterbacks on the 53.
• 1:08:56
  [SPEAKER_05]: You know, look on your face.
• 1:08:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: You're like, I'm just trying to figure out who, like, where can I afford to get rid of some guy?
• 1:09:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: Well, at the end of the day, too, you might have somebody on your position.
• 1:09:05
  [SPEAKER_05]: You are, and you might have to put somebody on, like, course, Mason Graham gets her.
• 1:09:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: And I think, please, not an IR thing.
• 1:09:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: But at that point, like, do you need all the linemen that you have?
• 1:09:14
  [SPEAKER_05]: The offensive linemen, like,
• 1:09:17
  [SPEAKER_05]: Zach, an intern's time, don't.
• 1:09:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
• 1:09:20
  [SPEAKER_05]: Do you finally do something Joe Royer?
• 1:09:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: He's on the 53, okay, so I, yeah, which we need to, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, or, I don't know, I know, I'm not going to say that, anyway, probably for the best.
• 1:09:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, is there a world where, and I know if you put them on the eye for the rest of season, you can't even practice.
• 1:09:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: But is there a wall where you're like I'm running through the season if Deshawn goes down obviously she doors my next guy up and then it's like well after that I have tail and green
• 1:09:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: The issue that you have with that, too, is if he's not actually hurt, and then files of grievance.
• 1:09:57
  [SPEAKER_05]: Who, what, oh my gosh, who was that?
• 1:09:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: The dude that tore his Achilles jet skiing or something like that?
• 1:10:03
  [SPEAKER_05]: Nine hines?
• 1:10:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you remember that?
• 1:10:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: You remember that?
• 1:10:05
  [SPEAKER_05]: Same thing.
• 1:10:05
  [SPEAKER_05]: They brought him off.
• 1:10:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: They activated his 20-day one-day window.
• 1:10:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: They let it lapse, and then they just put him back on IR.
• 1:10:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, well, Matt, let me ask you from a GM standpoint.
• 1:10:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: You put yourself at, what would you, what would you do?
• 1:10:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: And who's more valuable to you at this moment?
• 1:10:18
  [SPEAKER_05]: Should or or don't get real?
• 1:10:20
  [SPEAKER_05]: I would say, but you're doing that.
• 1:10:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: Put tail and green, that too.
• 1:10:22
  [SPEAKER_05]: Well, you're not getting ready to tail and green.
• 1:10:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's just that that's bad luck.
• 1:10:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: So if you have to quite that, you have to put that into the equation.
• 1:10:33
  [SPEAKER_05]: The answer, you probably don't want to hear your trading way should or Sanders.
• 1:10:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: Why?
• 1:10:38
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think under the idea that Watson will finish the year out, which is a big ask.
• 1:10:47
  [SPEAKER_05]: but you have no choice but at this point to assume that that is how it's going to go that he's going to be a playing to a level good enough to keep the job and then also be healthy.
• 1:10:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: Again under my idea that he finishes the year out and I know I'm drafting a quarterback and we're going to go on on that quarterback.
• 1:11:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: It is just borrowed time for both of those guys.
• 1:11:10
  [SPEAKER_05]: It really is for Shidorah and Dillon Gabriel.
• 1:11:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: It is just borrowed time.
• 1:11:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: Because at this point, I've got nothing to believe that you and one of them are going to be a part of the future of the Cleveland Brown outside of the back of now again I go back to what the Brown says said over and over again that it was an organizational decision that it wasn't comes to fancy and it wasn't injury like still in Gabriel so much and what they view him as their future back up quarterback so I'm not getting rid of him so I'm just going to come back to shit or so a trade him for somebody for a conditional six or something I don't know you trade him for less than you drafted him for what are you going to do you can get a five back
• 1:11:45
  [SPEAKER_05]: They get G. J. McCorthy for a five.
• 1:11:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: What's your door as better tape than JJ?
• 1:11:52
  [SPEAKER_05]: G. J. McCorthy of that wind streak.
• 1:11:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's also first round pick.
• 1:11:55
  [SPEAKER_05]: We'll get carries.
• 1:11:55
  [SPEAKER_05]: So did you know that?
• 1:11:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: I hear not wrong.
• 1:11:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right, sure.
• 1:11:57
  [SPEAKER_05]: Gotta get a five.
• 1:11:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think there was a five on the four.
• 1:12:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: No, get a four and a half.
• 1:12:05
  [SPEAKER_05]: Can I get a four, Bob?
• 1:12:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: All right, but then.
• 1:12:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, well, then it gets kind of gets back to this.
• 1:12:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's very clear isn't it?
• 1:12:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because I because you press.
• 1:12:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: We just talked about expectations are inherently raised.
• 1:12:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: You're three and one.
• 1:12:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: You should be thinking playoffs.
• 1:12:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't care what your roster is.
• 1:12:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: You're three and one.
• 1:12:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: Correct.
• 1:12:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: I should be your goal.
• 1:12:20
  [SPEAKER_05]: So if to show there is no doubt this team at damn well, better make the playoffs.
• 1:12:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: But then if Shador goes down, who do you trust more to win a game?
• 1:12:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: Dylan or Shador?
• 1:12:28
  [SPEAKER_05]: Here's how much the Sean goes down.
• 1:12:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: Shador Dylan.
• 1:12:33
  [SPEAKER_05]: I would say should or I say should then don't yeah, okay, so then don't Gabriel's the one that's gonna be okay That's fine.
• 1:12:39
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's fine.
• 1:12:40
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's fine
• 1:12:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: Would you get more for Dylan Gabriel or Star Sanders?
• 1:12:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think you would get more for sure, Sanders than you would, Dylan Gabriel.
• 1:12:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: I correct, I agree.
• 1:12:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: I agree.
• 1:12:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: And I also, again, I'm gonna believe the Cleveland Browns that they really buy and believe in Dylan Gabriel.
• 1:12:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: And again, would you really carry four quarterbacks, knowing you're giving up depth when you're trying to actively make the playoffs?
• 1:13:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: Hmm, I mean, it's not good business.
• 1:13:03
  [SPEAKER_05]: I sure, but you got this back in, you got back in movement all the time.
• 1:13:08
  [SPEAKER_05]: You could find a roster spot.
• 1:13:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: And again, well, we're talking about trading these guys.
• 1:13:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: Why would another team give us anything meaningful for a quarterback that wouldn't belong in our top three?
• 1:13:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, beauty's in that, boulder.
• 1:13:22
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know, I'm saying that, that's your only thing.
• 1:13:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: You just beat somebody that was in fact you wait, we want to make a hit or a beauty's in the eye of Kevin's.
• 1:13:29
  [SPEAKER_05]: See, see, see, see, see, see, see, see, they don't want it.
• 1:13:32
  [SPEAKER_05]: What do they need him now for, either, too?
• 1:13:34
  [SPEAKER_05]: Look at Michael Panics.
• 1:13:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: If you want a good backup lefty, you don't have to change anything.
• 1:13:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: There you go.
• 1:13:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: And don't tell me, there you have two, oh.
• 1:13:40
  [SPEAKER_05]: They don't need them, they got, they got panics.
• 1:13:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: And then again, even, you look around some of these other teams, like there aren't that many teams that are clamoring for quarterback right now.
• 1:13:49
  [SPEAKER_05]: Jets are doing, they kind of believe in Gino's team.
• 1:13:52
  [SPEAKER_05]: But again, same thing, they're not changing.
• 1:13:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: That doesn't change their trajectory.
• 1:13:56
  [SPEAKER_05]: The Jets are taking a quarterback.
• 1:13:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: The cardinals are taking a quarterback.
• 1:14:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: This stealers are,
• 1:14:03
  [SPEAKER_05]: Damn well taken a quarter back now.
• 1:14:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: Do you think there's any in Ashberry just someone to give the credit they brought just sitting in the chat?
• 1:14:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: I was going to think there's anything to do or they will make in any way shape or form a decision where they're putting any type of merit on a potential distraction.
• 1:14:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: Back up quarterback could be.
• 1:14:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, obviously a little too should or yes.
• 1:14:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
• 1:14:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: Now again, I'm not saying that Ashberry is saying this and I'm not saying this either,
• 1:14:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: you cannot have that with this team.
• 1:14:33
  [SPEAKER_05]: And there is no reason at this point for us to believe that that is the case, but we're not in that building.
• 1:14:40
  [SPEAKER_05]: And if that starts to happen, yes, 100% should or let's put this if it's Dylan Gabriel, who's sitting there putting up a sting.
• 1:14:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: Then we're having that conversation.
• 1:14:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: What the am I.
• 1:14:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: Here's a good way to put him at one or some.
• 1:14:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: What mistake would bother you more?
• 1:14:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: Trading Gabriel and watching him succeed or just keeping everybody and getting nothing at return.
• 1:15:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because I think there's a thing.
• 1:15:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: Explain that to me one more time here.
• 1:15:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: What would be what mistake would bother you more if the rounds traded Dylan Gabriel and then he went and offered to succeed?
• 1:15:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: Or keeping everybody all four quarterbacks and getting nothing in return and all of them flame out.
• 1:15:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: Mm.
• 1:15:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think the former.
• 1:15:20
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, because then you we've searched for that and you early living baker to a point of like you had somebody and you let them go.
• 1:15:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: Um, another part.
• 1:15:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: Do you, yes, do you think this decision should solely be up to Todd Munkin like it is for the starting quarterback?
• 1:15:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: because now we're getting into depth charts.
• 1:15:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's the GM's territory.
• 1:15:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, we certainly might like if Todd Munkin walked in and like trade should or take away, do you think he, that's gotta be an interviewer to soon.
• 1:15:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think they're aligned with that.
• 1:15:52
  [SPEAKER_05]: And that's the best way to go is like, you handle the roster, I coach the roster.
• 1:15:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: Now the thing is, I wouldn't that make you think that it's probably Dylan's out.
• 1:16:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: Well, you're then coming from Todd Munkin has no prior.
• 1:16:05
  [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, he's getting a tie to Dylan Gabriel.
• 1:16:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: He wouldn't hear any draft in it.
• 1:16:08
  [SPEAKER_05]: And remember, too, Dylan wasn't hearing the offseason.
• 1:16:10
  [SPEAKER_05]: That kind of pissed off tie.
• 1:16:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: I made that very clear.
• 1:16:12
  [SPEAKER_05]: But maybe Dave had that, you know, come to Jesus moment.
• 1:16:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe they've come around.
• 1:16:16
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
• 1:16:18
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like, I think what would happen would be, first off, Barry would probably recognize the two.
• 1:16:22
  [SPEAKER_05]: But if Todd came to Andrew Barry, and was like, hey, man, this is a distraction.
• 1:16:29
  [SPEAKER_05]: He's not doing what he's supposed to do.
• 1:16:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think they'd be in lockstep of doing what they need to do.
• 1:16:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: on that.
• 1:16:34
  [SPEAKER_05]: Now again, we have no excuse or belief to excuse to or reason to believe that for Dylan or should or either one.
• 1:16:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: And the thing is, yeah, the team's winning.
• 1:16:45
  [SPEAKER_05]: Don't have free that.
• 1:16:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like you said, do you write, don't free it.
• 1:16:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: This team is winning.
• 1:16:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: Don't mess with that.
• 1:16:50
  [SPEAKER_05]: You don't want to mess with that.
• 1:16:52
  [SPEAKER_05]: And I don't think they will.
• 1:16:53
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's a good spot.
• 1:16:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's the jack at Pizza 2 and 6 out there.
• 1:16:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh yeah, you did.
• 1:16:57
  [SPEAKER_05]: You can't
• 1:17:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: Bring it in, we're gonna show everybody pizza 216 right now.
• 1:17:03
  [SPEAKER_05]: He walked by, he's the out there still, where is it?
• 1:17:05
  [SPEAKER_05]: Bring it back.
• 1:17:08
  [SPEAKER_05]: Jack!
• 1:17:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: Ah, he had it, he walked away.
• 1:17:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: Hey, I'm texting, bring it back down.
• 1:17:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: I wanna show everybody pizza 216.
• 1:17:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: Be most delicious.
• 1:17:18
  [SPEAKER_05]: I love pizza.
• 1:17:20
  [SPEAKER_05]: I love it.
• 1:17:22
  [SPEAKER_05]: He's gonna come back down.
• 1:17:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: He's gonna come back down.
• 1:17:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: Westiders get ready, pizza 216 has a new up.
• 1:17:29
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's in A-Von.
• 1:17:32
  [SPEAKER_05]: A little far away from A-Von, but it's close.
• 1:17:33
  [SPEAKER_05]: So I know Pete's 216 from downtown.
• 1:17:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
• 1:17:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: A-Von spot.
• 1:17:37
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's my new go, too, man.
• 1:17:38
  [SPEAKER_05]: Westsideers Pete's a 216 opening a brand new location in A-Von and for your next guard's game, no better place to go.
• 1:17:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: For a one you could have.
• 1:17:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: I hope they're smaller than just tonight.
• 1:17:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, we find we'll be there.
• 1:17:49
  [SPEAKER_05]: Dude.
• 1:17:50
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's a sneaky awesome spawn for Capsgames because you got to go right up fourth and you're there.
• 1:17:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: They do they have a link up.
• 1:17:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: They have 24 draft beers.
• 1:17:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah, right here plenty of TVs bar scene 20 draft beers a menu that goes way beyond the pizza
• 1:18:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's, that's the thing.
• 1:18:08
  [SPEAKER_05]: Concerts?
• 1:18:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm buying concerts tickets today for something that I rock at arena.
• 1:18:12
  [SPEAKER_05]: Go get some food, your beer.
• 1:18:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: Then you're off to the game.
• 1:18:14
  [SPEAKER_05]: You're off to that concert.
• 1:18:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: Pizza 216, your downtown game spot, new location and Avon.
• 1:18:19
  [SPEAKER_05]: Check them out on door-aswell.
• 1:18:21
  [SPEAKER_05]: Pizza216.com.
• 1:18:23
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's pizza-216.com.
• 1:18:27
  [SPEAKER_05]: Pizza-216.com.
• 1:18:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: You see it there.
• 1:18:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: Scan that QR code.
• 1:18:32
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's the place to go downtown.
• 1:18:34
  [SPEAKER_05]: Or again, now in Avon,
• 1:18:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: Is that their second spot?
• 1:18:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, to be honest, I don't know if I just go to the downtown one.
• 1:18:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.
• 1:18:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: Avon's gonna be my spot.
• 1:18:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: No, all right, Jack's gonna bring it back in.
• 1:18:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: You know, I'll have a slice and we'll get ready for the grid.
• 1:18:45
  [SPEAKER_05]: How about that?
• 1:18:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: Love it.
• 1:18:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: Big play Cleveland, stay with us.
• 1:18:47
  [SPEAKER_05]: All right, ready to go for a clock.
• 1:18:49
  [SPEAKER_05]: Gards lineup here we are.
• 1:18:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: This is gonna be the winner for today.
• 1:18:53
  [SPEAKER_05]: Really big changes for me.
• 1:18:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think number one, you drop a Zana.
• 1:18:56
  [SPEAKER_05]: Bailey gets to start over Hedges.
• 1:18:58
  [SPEAKER_05]: Um, other than that is that not sure best lineup.
• 1:19:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: Cron, Ramirez, Chase, Joe, and Samuel Lowe.
• 1:19:07
  [SPEAKER_05]: You keep helping on the bench for speed.
• 1:19:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, yeah, I do think this is your best line.
• 1:19:14
  [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe defensively, Hannaal would go in for Bazana.
• 1:19:19
  [SPEAKER_05]: The only thing would be the water or a delin, right?
• 1:19:22
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's it, you know, quans now in center, he's not been playing there a lot, but he has been in the playoff so far.
• 1:19:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think that's your best run.
• 1:19:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think that's your best run.
• 1:19:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think that's your best run.
• 1:19:33
  [SPEAKER_05]: We need that.
• 1:19:34
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like, you need that, the water, a del, it's basically like every other guy, start with quan, then the water, then give me a little on-hell, then give me some b-a-b-zana and rokeo.
• 1:19:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know?
• 1:19:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: Is it wrong with me just to be like dude, Jose's hurt and we're not really gonna get one try out of it until he gets healthy?
• 1:19:52
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know, I don't feel good about it, but I really don't have a choice.
• 1:19:57
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's a good way to put it.
• 1:19:58
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's exactly what it is.
• 1:20:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's all I really got is a little coping mechanism.
• 1:20:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: All right, that being said, there is a way to sprinkle some good luck on this game and sprinkle some good luck on our parlay.
• 1:20:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's the macular grid, let's go.
• 1:20:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: All right.
• 1:20:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, there's damn tightens.
• 1:20:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: They always screw us.
• 1:20:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: All right, go.
• 1:20:14
  [SPEAKER_05]: 10,000 crew passing yards.
• 1:20:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, some background music by the way.
• 1:20:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: I love this.
• 1:20:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think and contemplate.
• 1:20:21
  [SPEAKER_05]: Now, can you click over that?
• 1:20:22
  [SPEAKER_05]: Is that 10,000 passing in their career with said team?
• 1:20:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: Lear must have 10,000 passing yards in their career when paired with the team.
• 1:20:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: Must have played at least one game with that team.
• 1:20:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, so they just gotta be on that team.
• 1:20:32
  [SPEAKER_05]: I would assume Ryan Tane Hill did that.
• 1:20:35
  [SPEAKER_05]: You probably even might have done it with the tightens.
• 1:20:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: 100%.
• 1:20:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 1:20:40
  [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, if there's again, cam, cam, cause he didn't play it at all, so it was fun.
• 1:20:48
  [SPEAKER_05]: uh... what oh why is it glitching i click the wrong one that's for some reason to the cam new and that was two thousand five to say that's fine don't even click on it don't click on it we got can't we got can't we got can't we troll and troll job we would the other cam new that played in the NFL uh... well no don't you staffered because you could do him over there so i would assume well go off or stand for actually to put one there but one over there it's all good there you go there you go
• 1:21:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: You're telling me Matt, oh he's the topic.
• 1:21:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: No Matthews.
• 1:21:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: And then, no, wrong one, go off there.
• 1:21:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: All right, Mike Goff, who's that?
• 1:21:29
  [SPEAKER_05]: All right, let's try to knock out some jets here because Tyrod Taylor, but I don't know if he, oh Tyrod, he played in Carolina, didn't he not?
• 1:21:38
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm picturing him there.
• 1:21:39
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't.
• 1:21:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't picture that at all.
• 1:21:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: All right.
• 1:21:42
  [SPEAKER_05]: Ram's Panthers is Baker Mayfield.
• 1:21:52
  [SPEAKER_05]: I tightens rams.
• 1:21:53
  [SPEAKER_05]: We can just finish that one out if we'd like.
• 1:21:55
  [SPEAKER_05]: Robert Woods.
• 1:21:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't remember if he played in tennis.
• 1:22:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: Did he play in Tennessee?
• 1:22:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think he did.
• 1:22:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: Almost positive.
• 1:22:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: Alright, I rip, rip it.
• 1:22:05
  [SPEAKER_05]: I like it.
• 1:22:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: Bobby Treesman.
• 1:22:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: All right, good.
• 1:22:12
  [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
• 1:22:12
  [SPEAKER_05]: All right, Jets.
• 1:22:13
  [SPEAKER_05]: Again, I want Tyrod to work for one of these, but I just don't know for sure that would be the only spot that I would probably think that is going to be the thorn on our side.
• 1:22:23
  [SPEAKER_05]: Titans Jets.
• 1:22:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let me lock in my back.
• 1:22:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
• 1:22:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you.
• 1:22:26
  [SPEAKER_05]: See you, James.
• 1:22:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to go to the Titans.
• 1:22:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think so.
• 1:22:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: Um, random marshal never played for the Titans.
• 1:22:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: Darrell Revis, didn't play here on the Titans.
• 1:22:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know about that.
• 1:22:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: No, I'm just naming names.
• 1:22:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm piloted.
• 1:22:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, um, um, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
• 1:22:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: long neck mic, whatever.
• 1:22:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: Glennon, I don't think she writes.
• 1:22:57
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, he played for the Giants.
• 1:22:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's tight.
• 1:23:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: Wanna move on?
• 1:23:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, go ahead and rip Fitzpatrick there.
• 1:23:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: Right, Ryan Fitzpatrick played for the Panthers.
• 1:23:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not Mr. Memory now.
• 1:23:07
  [SPEAKER_05]: Sounds very great.
• 1:23:08
  [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
• 1:23:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: What fitting music, by the way?
• 1:23:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
• 1:23:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: Do we attempt to keep going?
• 1:23:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: I guess.
• 1:23:27
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's just, why am I underpressed?
• 1:23:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: I, how did Fitzpatrick not play for the Panthers?
• 1:23:34
  [SPEAKER_05]: Click Tyrod there.
• 1:23:35
  [SPEAKER_05]: I just want to see if Tyrod would have worked.
• 1:23:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: No, wow.
• 1:23:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'm that, nope.
• 1:23:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: I was thinking, it's out, it's gonna go.
• 1:23:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: All right, listen.
• 1:23:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: Just one.
• 1:23:53
  [SPEAKER_05]: Just one game.
• 1:23:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's all you got to worry about.
• 1:23:57
  [SPEAKER_05]: I feel a little pressure off.
• 1:23:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: I was sick to my, what, who do we forget?
• 1:24:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: Right, Mr. Patrick is the most common one for Titans Jets.
• 1:24:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: Huh, Sam Darnold for a bit.
• 1:24:12
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, Darnold.
• 1:24:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: We should have got that DJ read.
• 1:24:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: I guess he'd think it's real.
• 1:24:16
  [SPEAKER_05]: DJ reader.
• 1:24:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: He's no just DJ read DJ.
• 1:24:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: Wait.
• 1:24:18
  [SPEAKER_05]: What that's the most popular Jet's Lions player.
• 1:24:23
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you click on that list.
• 1:24:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: Just that one list is the Lions jets.
• 1:24:28
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm just curious.
• 1:24:30
  [SPEAKER_05]: If there would be somebody else.
• 1:24:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: a quarterbacks Tim Boyle and Frank Wright.
• 1:24:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
• 1:24:35
  [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, Frank Wright.
• 1:24:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: Good pool rushing tie John's cheese.
• 1:24:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: Son of a night Receiving the this one pick and wow.
• 1:24:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: Tie Johnson.
• 1:24:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe we got that Josh Ryan.
• 1:24:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, it's probably.
• 1:24:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
• 1:24:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah All right.
• 1:24:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: We were set up for that as it is.
• 1:24:50
  [SPEAKER_05]: All right.
• 1:24:50
  [SPEAKER_05]: We just just won game
• 1:24:52
  [SPEAKER_05]: I felt sick to my stomach on Saturday and on Monday because it was just like, I don't feel that.
• 1:24:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like, I'm going to sit down today at 4 o'clock, my son will be home from school and I'm going to say sit down, we're watching the guards game, when loser draw, we'll see how it goes.
• 1:25:08
  [SPEAKER_05]: Get after it.
• 1:25:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think the answer is more guards ball, not less, get on base manufacturer some runs.
• 1:25:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: And I pray that we'll have a game tomorrow to discuss the one that has the hit that we're
• 1:25:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: or the play, the hit or the play.
• 1:25:25
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm gonna say hit because I think you're gonna need some bats.
• 1:25:29
  [SPEAKER_05]: My gut was like Nathaniel Love.
• 1:25:32
  [SPEAKER_05]: What if he, like, just smacks a double, you know, to score runner, something like, but I just, I, I cannot tell you how important I think it is to score the first run in this game today.
• 1:25:44
  [SPEAKER_05]: To get an unnukum, uh, they're going to be kind of going with their, you know, their bullpen, everybody's pretty healthy for the most part, they had their opener, but, uh, who's that other kid, the bird kid, man, he was good.
• 1:25:56
  [SPEAKER_05]: just get the first run.
• 1:25:57
  [SPEAKER_05]: Get it across.
• 1:25:58
  [SPEAKER_05]: Loosen some things up.
• 1:25:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: Warguard's balls the answer.
• 1:26:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: And I hope you'll have a game get ready to go for tomorrow.
• 1:26:03
  [SPEAKER_05]: We'll be right back tomorrow.
• 1:26:05
  [SPEAKER_05]: When loser draw, man, Drennan's gonna be fun tomorrow.
• 1:26:07
  [SPEAKER_05]: We'll talk with Bruce.
• 1:26:08
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'll be back with him at noon tomorrow.
• 1:26:10
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• 1:26:11
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• 1:26:16
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• 1:26:19
  [SPEAKER_05]: That'll do it.
• 1:26:20
  [SPEAKER_05]: Go guards for Ryan Tyler.
• 1:26:21
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm Matt Fontaine is always.
• 1:26:23
  [SPEAKER_05]: Take it easy.