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This Is The Weirdest Superstar Series Ever... (1) · Kenny For Real

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Speaker 1: I'm disappointed in myself. Usually on one take Kenny, I
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Speaker 1: come out of here with the notes.
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Speaker 2: Boom boom boom.
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Speaker 1: Here's what I saw. Here's what's interesting around basketball. Did
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Speaker 1: we get it out?
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Speaker 2: I'm gona like, take eight. Are you serious?
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Speaker 1: That's I get the OKC thunder win the clutch game
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Speaker 1: against the Denver Nuggets. Didn't even know it was possible
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Speaker 1: to be the Denver Nuggets in the clutch. Okay, see
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Speaker 1: just did it? Shout out to them? Ties up the series.
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Speaker 1: They needed this game desperately. You don't want to have
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Speaker 1: to try to win three games in a row against
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Speaker 1: the best in the world.
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Speaker 2: It's probably not gonna happen.
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Speaker 1: But instead they tie up the series, and we got
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Speaker 1: to talk about that. Then the Pacers won a game
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Speaker 1: by like sixty points. I think I don't know the
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Speaker 1: final box score. Okay, I'm lying. I can see the
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Speaker 1: final box score, but it felt like a sixty point
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Speaker 1: win in my eyes. They just, you know, the CAVALINCHI
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Speaker 1: is the Pacers need the yes sirs, yes sirs. They
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Speaker 1: need something about when they get that foot on the gas. Well, okay,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about both. But the Pacers are one
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Speaker 1: game away. For being in the conference finals and going
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Speaker 1: into this postseason, everybody's like, well, they might as well
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Speaker 1: just simulate too. The con as fine as we know,
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be Caves versus Celtics, and the Calves are
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Speaker 1: one game away from going home, and the Celtics just
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Speaker 1: got their.
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Speaker 2: First win of their series yesterday. So the playoffs have
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Speaker 2: been amazing.
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Speaker 1: The playoffs have been unpredictable, so unpredictable that it made
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Speaker 1: me rethink my philosophies now to take a step back
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Speaker 1: and say, Kenn, you tripple, Kenny, you really ot tripping.
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Speaker 1: Before today's game again, before today's game, stipped off. I
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Speaker 1: was talking to myself in here, not like I ain't
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Speaker 1: not wrong with talking to yourself a loud, but I
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Speaker 1: was in here just thinking throws look it through some
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Speaker 1: notes of Stune, and I was asking myself how much
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Speaker 1: this depth matter, because so far hasn't mattered too much.
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Speaker 1: And I don't mean having a good six man of
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Speaker 1: seventh man, I mean the depths of the depth. Those teams,
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Speaker 1: like the respective one seeds were really good because of
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Speaker 1: course they have good starting units, but also because they
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Speaker 1: had so much depth. Right, you think about the Calves
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Speaker 1: having tider Roam DeAndre Hunter at the deadline, them having
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Speaker 1: Isco Corro.
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Speaker 2: Dean Wade.
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Speaker 1: They just got bodies on bodies on bodies, the OKC Thunder,
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Speaker 1: Joe Wiggins, Wallace, I'm adding Camridge Willias because he's still
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Speaker 1: a Captain's damn team, They and Jay and Jay will
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Speaker 1: And I was just looking at it again before today's
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Speaker 1: games tipped off, and like, how dos that even mattered?
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Speaker 2: To this point?
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Speaker 1: The different nuggets are up to one as I'm having
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Speaker 1: this conversation with myself, and I'm like, the reasoning I'm
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Speaker 1: two one is because they just have a bunch of
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Speaker 1: continuity and they have a five man unit that you
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Speaker 1: really trust. Of course, Brody has been great in this series,
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Speaker 1: not so much tonight, but for the most part, depth
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Speaker 1: has not mattered to them. We all look at that
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Speaker 1: roster and say, like, nah, they ain't really got zechnogy
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Speaker 1: gonna play probably not Darna, sorry say Son, he ain't
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Speaker 1: even touch the floor. But they've been able to stay
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Speaker 1: afloat when last series and be up to one in
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Speaker 1: this series without them having depth. And this is a
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Speaker 1: conversation I'm having myself. It didn't tonight happen. It's like, yeah, actually,
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Speaker 1: I'm tripping because a game like tonight where ok See
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Speaker 1: holds the different nuggets to eighty seven, that depth really
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Speaker 1: showed his head. Because lou Dorp was bad today full stop.
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Speaker 1: So having a guy like Cason Wallace come in and
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Speaker 1: be able to play some big minutes, having Alex Carusso,
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Speaker 1: who's been phenomenal for this entire series, to come in
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Speaker 1: and do something like this is important.
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Speaker 2: And then in the late.
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Speaker 1: Game I get reaffirmed to my original philosophies because we
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Speaker 1: topping as an amazing game. Benathing Matthern gets the crowd
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Speaker 1: lit over some stupid stuff, just like just don't Basically,
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying to you, don't be overthinking on philosophy
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Speaker 1: is based on one series or one postseason round.
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Speaker 2: It's stupid.
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Speaker 1: But one thing that has not changed as we talk
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Speaker 1: about the Okac thunder is that this defense is legendary.
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Speaker 1: I made the tweet, you know, in the Memphis Grizzy series,
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Speaker 1: like when they were dominating the Grizzlies, I was like,
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Speaker 1: nobody's gonna care right now because the first round series
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Speaker 1: one in eight seed and this eight seed don't really
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Speaker 1: look that good.
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Speaker 2: But like people will realize.
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Speaker 1: How ridiculous this defense is once they get to the
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Speaker 1: next round. And again this series is tied too, too,
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Speaker 1: but they just held the different Nuggets to eighty seven points.
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Speaker 1: There's one stat that we've mentioned a couple months ago.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it was on the podcast on here,
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Speaker 1: but I'll mention it again, and there's relative defensive rating.
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Speaker 2: It's like, how good are you compared to your peers? Right?
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Speaker 1: Historically, this okayc team is the best relative defensive team
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Speaker 1: ever ever, and and you see it tonight, the best
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Speaker 1: in the world. The koli Jokins basically gave us two
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Speaker 1: back to back stinkers. Now, he gave us a couple
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Speaker 1: moments in this one in the second half. I think
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Speaker 1: he was better than the first half. But we've never
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Speaker 1: seen the koli Jokis struggle as much as he's struggling
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Speaker 1: right now. I've never watched the game when the koli
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Speaker 1: Jokins had thought that he was getting to his own
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Speaker 1: head mentally. He's there right now. That is the best defense.
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Speaker 1: And when you have lou Dort, who is going to
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Speaker 1: make all defensive has all defensive team has been released,
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Speaker 1: I don't think that has lou Dorrit is gonna make
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Speaker 1: an All defensive team, You'll probably be like All Defensive
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Speaker 1: first team candidate. You would think, like, man, we can't
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Speaker 1: have him on the floor right now because his offense
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Speaker 1: is so trash. How do we make that up? Well,
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Speaker 1: Alice Carusso and Caseon Wallace exists. Not only do they exist,
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Speaker 1: they do something that Loudrit does this as well, I
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Speaker 1: guess because lou Dorit can draw some fouls offensive like
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Speaker 1: fouls by him running over a screen but fall and
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Speaker 1: he does that quite a bit. But Cason Wallace and
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Speaker 1: Alice Carusso are in the same category of playmaking defensive players. Well,
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Speaker 1: I know tonight Alzcarusso to have no stop, but like
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Speaker 1: these guys can come in wreck have it, force turnovers
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Speaker 1: and so on and so forth. And I felt like
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Speaker 1: we got that this has been a game about great coaching.
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Speaker 1: This is not a series about great coaching. I felt
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Speaker 1: like throughout the first couple of games of the series,
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Speaker 1: when you think about Mark dayton All making the decision
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Speaker 1: and gain of one to foul up three for whatever,
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Speaker 1: and then in the last game that they lost it
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Speaker 1: went to overtime, I thought it was weird and I
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Speaker 1: have chat Ombren start the overtime overthinking this is one
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Speaker 1: of them games. I'm like, Mark Daytonall won this coaching
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Speaker 1: battle tonight because it's easy to go with the guys
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Speaker 1: that you know. It's easy to go with the guys
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Speaker 1: that you're used to closing with. But no, this game
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Speaker 1: is too important. So if so and so ain't got
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Speaker 1: to go and sit your ass in that bench, and
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Speaker 1: we gonna let Caruso and Cason Wallace rock. The one
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Speaker 1: thing I really respect about Alex carusso on and I
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Speaker 1: love this man so much, Like I'm so happy they'd
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Speaker 1: ended up playing in Chicago. I'm also pissed for him
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Speaker 1: that he played in Chicago. If you know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 1: he deserves to be on championship quality teams. That's sound
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Speaker 1: packful he is, But it doesn't matter what he is
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Speaker 1: shooting from the field or what he's shooting from three.
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Speaker 1: The Denver Nuggets are a team that's basically saying, you
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Speaker 1: want to see if you got shooters, and Caruso is
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Speaker 1: never gonna pass up the opportunity. Even if he's one
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Speaker 1: for five on the day, He's going to shoot through
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Speaker 1: it because he knows the only way we break this
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Speaker 1: zone is for somebody to make some shots.
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Speaker 2: Tonight, and nobody made shots in this game. Nobody did.
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Speaker 1: It was really, again a defensive oriented a game, but
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Speaker 1: Caruso and Cason coming in and being player number two
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Speaker 1: and number three in this game is important. This is
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Speaker 1: a really good Isaiah Hardenstein game as well. I mean
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Speaker 1: we talk about the defense. Isaiah Hartenstein is playing some
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Speaker 1: of the best defense I've ever seen on the Kola Yokis.
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Speaker 2: Again, this is a team thing.
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Speaker 1: But it's such a weird series because if I told
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Speaker 1: you we're gonna have the MVP and the MVP runner
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Speaker 1: up going to a series and neither of them are
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Speaker 1: gonna look phenomenal, you would.
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Speaker 2: Think it was. It was crazy.
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Speaker 1: I think both teams are playing phenomenal defense and scheming
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Speaker 1: so perfectly against the other MVP, MV Calider player strong suits.
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Speaker 1: They're Shay is seeing so many bodies, and I thought
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Speaker 1: that at the end of last game, the last ten
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Speaker 1: minutes or so, he showcased one of the biggest glare
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Speaker 1: holds in this game, and that's the lack of trust
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Speaker 1: or the lack of playmaking when he is seeing two
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Speaker 1: to three bodies. Right, they've done a good job exposing,
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Speaker 1: if you will, one of the things in Shay's game
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Speaker 1: that's not developed as much as some of the other
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Speaker 1: superstars in basketball. This game, he had a game he
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Speaker 1: gave us a couple of quarters, so it was like,
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Speaker 1: that is the EVP caliber player that we know, but
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Speaker 1: that's kind of been it. I was so excited about
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Speaker 1: this seeing it Shae versus Yo, but really is defense
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Speaker 1: versus defense and the different Nuggets are not historically a
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Speaker 1: great defense, right, I think they were like twenty second
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Speaker 1: and twenty third on the regular season, but they've been
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Speaker 1: able to lock in. And I got to give credit
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Speaker 1: to yok on neet side of the ball because you,
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Speaker 1: like you would think that the anchor of a defense,
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Speaker 1: he deserves some type of credit there. And then being
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Speaker 1: able to play this zone in early in this game
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Speaker 1: forced a ton of turnovers. Where this game was really
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Speaker 1: won and lost was the first quarter eight points. That
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Speaker 1: is defense, right, ended up being a five point game.
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Speaker 1: And I never counted up to differ nuxts. I will be
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Speaker 1: crazy because I've seen what they didn't gain of one,
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Speaker 1: I've seen what they've been able to do. But I
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Speaker 1: truly do that the shots generated from Okac in this
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Speaker 1: game were better than the shots generated from the Denver Nuggets.
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Speaker 2: Now, I don't know there's a status shot quality. I don't.
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Speaker 1: I don't have the damn statistic, but I'm sure somebody
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Speaker 1: will have it later today and it will hopefully tell
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Speaker 1: you what my eye test said. It was like, okay,
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Speaker 1: see generated good looks, they just didn't happen the fall.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if the Dinver Nuggets generated the looks
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Speaker 1: that they wanted to generate.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 1: I felt like this was one of the few games
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Speaker 1: that the postseason where I was like, that's too much
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Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook.
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Speaker 2: I thought it was just one of the few.
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Speaker 1: Games in the regular and this postseason run where I'm like,
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Speaker 1: that's too much Chrissy Broyan. He had a good game,
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Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. He got to the line a ton,
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Speaker 1: He was really aggressive. But him doing that is exactly
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Speaker 1: what Okac woul prefer instead of it being the other guys.
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Speaker 1: So just a really great game for oka See Defensively,
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Speaker 1: defensively they shot thirty five cent the field, but defensively
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Speaker 1: this is like shows you that they can go, that
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Speaker 1: they could compete, and there was times in this series
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Speaker 1: where I'm like, I don't know if they really can't.
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Speaker 1: And this is the sixty plus almost seventy win team here, right,
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Speaker 1: so anything can happen. It's a two two series and
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Speaker 1: the best in the world's still over there and I'm
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Speaker 1: just waiting for it.
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Speaker 2: Right he had the phenomenal Game number one.
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Speaker 1: I just can't imagine that Jokics has a third stinker
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Speaker 1: in a row, you know what I mean. And if
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Speaker 1: he does, my goodness, that goes to credit to Okce
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Speaker 1: and then we canna add a conversation about Yokics after it.
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Speaker 1: But like, if they can somehow force this man to
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Speaker 1: have another bad Nicola Yokis game, because I'm only comparing
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Speaker 1: them to himself, y'all. I know the stat line is,
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Speaker 1: but I'm only comparing them to him being the best
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Speaker 1: player in the world, and so far into series, other
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Speaker 1: than Game number one, he has not been the best.
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Speaker 2: He has not looked like the best player in the world.
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Speaker 1: So I feel like there was some other stuff that
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Speaker 1: I wanted to get to on this one. Oh not
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Speaker 1: a good dub game. Thank god they were able to
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Speaker 1: pull it out, because yeah, not a good dub game,
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Speaker 1: not a good check game, not a good.
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Speaker 2: Dork game, and they won. It could be some scary stuff.
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Speaker 1: I like that Isaiah Joe came into this game shooting,
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Speaker 1: because he played like three total minutes last game, and
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Speaker 1: I just thought, I don't know if he's gonna be
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Speaker 1: able to play.
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Speaker 2: He didn't shoot, he didn't hit any shots.
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Speaker 1: But a team that desperately needs three point shooting to
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Speaker 1: get somebody out of his own, I enjoyed the fact
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Speaker 1: that he came in and one of the shots he
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Speaker 1: took was crazy.
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Speaker 2: But I'm like, yeah, do that all right?
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Speaker 1: Switching gears to the Pacers being up three to one
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Speaker 1: on the Cleveland Cavaliers and Donal Mitchell left this game.
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Speaker 1: I don't even know the significance of his injury. I'm
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Speaker 1: praying that it's nothing heavy, because I'll enjoyed watching Donovan Mitchell.
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Speaker 2: But the Pacers, man, I.
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Speaker 1: Don't I want to see what the stats were before
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Speaker 1: they pulled the starters. But I remember halftime they were
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Speaker 1: shooting fifty four percent from three, and and games that
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Speaker 1: game one where they did they did the same thing
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Speaker 1: and shot fifty three percent from three. This team, when
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Speaker 1: they got it going, Bro they're just pure gas. It's
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Speaker 1: nothing you could really do. And last game, I was
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Speaker 1: a little worried for them because the Cavaliers do that
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Speaker 1: zone out there, Evan Mobley at the top. They forced
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Speaker 1: a lot of turnovers. They forced eleven straight three point misses.
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Speaker 1: It got real scary for the Pacers because this was
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Speaker 1: the first game where the Cavs were healthy, if you will,
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Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, now we have ourselves a real series.
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Speaker 1: And then they come out of here and they say,
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Speaker 1: we dare you to run the zone because our shooter
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Speaker 1: is gonna shoot today. We dare to do what you
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Speaker 1: want to do, because we're gonna force you to turn
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Speaker 1: that peel over.
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Speaker 2: Man.
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Speaker 1: We saw some turnovers here where it's like we made
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Speaker 1: a basket and you could even inbound the ball. We
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Speaker 1: got like three steals off that today. That's insane stuff.
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Speaker 1: And the crowd was electric, and it just it is
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Speaker 1: just show showcasing how unpredictable this league can really be
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Speaker 1: at times. And we're in the middle of the parody
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Speaker 1: era of basketball, and I enjoy more than any other
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Speaker 1: era that I've been alive for because this type of
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Speaker 1: series historically didn't didn't happen like this. We didn't see
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Speaker 1: the four seed, five seed go out there and beat
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Speaker 1: the one seed often. And it's one game away from
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Speaker 1: happening again. Miles Turner obi topping Pascal Siagamy even need
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Speaker 1: Tyres Haliburton to score tonight.
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Speaker 2: Some scary stuff. And now they got three shots from
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Speaker 2: one win. It got so bad.
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Speaker 1: Where's my Oh my notebook is probably downstairs still, it
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Speaker 1: got so bad.
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Speaker 2: I click the pin.
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Speaker 1: I'm done writing stuff down There's nothing else to be said.
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Speaker 1: What what can what can I possibly say about this
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Speaker 1: game that the box score.
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Speaker 2: Doesn't tell you?
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Speaker 1: And you know there's gonna have to be because we
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Speaker 1: don't know who's gonna go in the bottom half of
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Speaker 1: this bracket.
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Speaker 2: Right, Will the Boss itself just come back to this series?
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Speaker 2: And when will the Knicks close it out? YadA, YadA, YadA.
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Speaker 1: The Pacers, man, You think about all the teams in
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Speaker 1: the postseason right now, they have in this postseason right
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Speaker 1: now have looked like the best team and it's not
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Speaker 1: even close.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: Could that be competition based? It could be absolutely, it
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Speaker 1: could be right, it could be. But I'm just giving
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Speaker 1: the things that we have today in front of us.
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Speaker 1: The Pacers have looked like the best team. And I'm
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Speaker 1: not saying that means I'm picking them for the finals, damn.
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Speaker 1: But I'm just saying this is just weird to me. Okay,
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Speaker 1: see dominates the regular season, No, they struggling in the
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Speaker 1: second second series.
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Speaker 2: The Calves dominate the regular season. They struggling in the
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Speaker 2: second series.
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Speaker 1: The Bosson Celtics dominated the regular season, they're struggling in
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Speaker 1: the second series. The Pacers have looked like the best
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Speaker 1: team in this postseason. I just I don't know, man,
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Speaker 1: and I think there's there's gonna be some type of
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Speaker 1: video that I make or I talk about it big
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Speaker 1: and broader on the podcast. But it's good for hoops
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Speaker 1: when the small markets are able to be like the
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Speaker 1: Calves are small market to compared to like the LA's
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Speaker 1: of the world and everything, But like when the small
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Speaker 1: market team that can't get free agents or historically haven't
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Speaker 1: been able to really get free agents, they do it
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Speaker 1: the right way, and like this, this team did it
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Speaker 1: from the middle. Basically, you don't remember the Pacers tanking.
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Speaker 1: They've always been decent and decent and if you ask
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Speaker 1: Pacer fans, at some points of their life, being decent.
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Speaker 1: It's not worth it, right because yeah, okay, we're gonna
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Speaker 1: be the seven seed and were gonna lose Lebron.
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Speaker 2: We're gonna be an eight se We're gonna lose it.
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Speaker 1: This team yet that ain't really worth anything, but they've
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Speaker 1: been able to build it differently to some of these
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Speaker 1: other teams. Some of these other teams tank, like the
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Speaker 1: OKC Thunder they made a superstar trade right to get
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Speaker 1: Shakis Alexanda, but the rest they take their way. To
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Speaker 1: Dub they tank their way to chat with some lottery
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Speaker 1: help and so on and so forth. So, oh, I
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Speaker 1: guess Dub was a Lake was a Clippers pick too,
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Speaker 1: but like the other guys in their team was through tanking,
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Speaker 1: or the Cavs, you know, get Evan Mobley through tanking
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Speaker 1: and then make some big trades to get Domin Mitchell.
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Speaker 1: So the Pacers like, nah, we just don't like missing
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Speaker 1: the playoffs and we're gonna finesse a few general managers
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Speaker 1: across basketball. We're gonna trade the mantus a bonus for
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Speaker 1: an All NBA point guard. We're gonna we're gonna trade
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Speaker 1: Malcolm brock Than for a guy that ain't been good
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Speaker 1: in his first few years of his NBA career, but
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Speaker 1: he's gonna start here in year three and eventually be
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Speaker 1: one of the best defensive players on our team. We're
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Speaker 1: gonna draft the guy at the end of the first
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Speaker 1: round of early second second round. I don't even remember
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Speaker 1: when the hell nim Hard was drafted. Like, it's just again,
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Speaker 1: there's gotta be more said about the way Pritchard has
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Speaker 1: been able to build this team.
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Speaker 2: I don't even know how it could be replicated.
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Speaker 1: Right, it's a scary ass to not have ping pong odds,
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Speaker 1: but they've been able to do it. And again, the
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Speaker 1: one game away from the conference finals. Speaking of ping
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Speaker 1: pong gods, I'll see you all tomorrow.