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INTERVIEW: Monica McNutt Talks NBA Finals Predictions, Taylor Swift, The Spirit of Knicks Fans, WNBA + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Every day a week ago up the breakfast Club. You
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  Speaker 1: don't finish for y'all done morning. Everybody is d j
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  Speaker 1: en Vy just hilarious.
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  Speaker 2: Charlamagne the guy. We are the breakfast club lawn the
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  Speaker 2: Roses here as well. We got a special guest in
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  Speaker 2: the building.
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  Speaker 3: To Taylor Swift. Get the fun. You say that it
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  Speaker 3: made me feel that way.
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  Speaker 1: Y'all.
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  Speaker 4: Listen, you got a swifty Huh. I'm not a swifty.
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  Speaker 4: I appreciate her body of work. I'm not a swifty.
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  Speaker 4: Come on, I'm not gonna do that girl power all
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  Speaker 4: that stuff. Okay, they don't care about context, but context
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  Speaker 4: one hot mic.
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  Speaker 1: First of all.
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  Speaker 4: Right, Second, I literally y'all just did a piece on
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  Speaker 4: nick celebrity row. Y'all like after the game been still
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  Speaker 4: and Christine Taylor a hugging me like I know the
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  Speaker 4: celebrities that are there consistently. I may have misspoke on
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  Speaker 4: her loyalties, but I had not seen her all season
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  Speaker 4: the last season.
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  Speaker 5: Monica, you have the question that need to be She
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  Speaker 5: ain't no Knicks fan, no, so we saw her.
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  Speaker 1: In Cleveland with her fiance.
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  Speaker 4: And when I dated a Cowboys fan and I was
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  Speaker 4: a Commanders fan, like we wore our stuff, that's my
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  Speaker 4: don't worry. We got stuff and she didn't have.
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  Speaker 1: On any Knicks gear in Cleveland.
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  Speaker 3: Don't nobody know the connection? What is the connected between
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  Speaker 3: tailors with and the.
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  Speaker 1: Next And now he was trying to say that. He
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  Speaker 1: was like, get out of here, and you know, you
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  Speaker 1: know how we said it out here literally, but like
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  Speaker 1: are you're welcome?
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  Speaker 3: You will start, but like also get the funk out
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  Speaker 3: of here?
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  Speaker 6: And I like you already know that on my head, don't.
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  Speaker 3: God? Like, yes, Monica, I don't.
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  Speaker 1: Do that connection.
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  Speaker 4: She's the next fan apparently because one of my colleagues
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  Speaker 4: at MSG it was like even in the down years
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  Speaker 4: when she was younger, there's pictures of her in jersey
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  Speaker 4: and stuff. So my bad, I misspoke, but again I haven't.
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  Speaker 4: I had not seen her, but shout out to her.
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  Speaker 4: Orange blue is uniting everybody, Like when now we have that.
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  Speaker 7: In comment, she said that her for her original admiration
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  Speaker 7: for it was because of her she was are a
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  Speaker 7: fan of Amari Sta Yeah, that's what my homework.
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  Speaker 5: So the more we know, but we couldn't tell that
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  Speaker 5: when she was with Travis at the game listen, I.
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  Speaker 1: Couldn't tell you she was a Cleveland fan at that game.
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  Speaker 4: I thought what I'm saying, at least if you for me,
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  Speaker 4: if you are a diehard fan, and it's the playoffs,
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  Speaker 4: that's fun in houses, it's fun with the relationships.
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  Speaker 1: But to your point, I just saw you in Cleveland.
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  Speaker 1: You ain't get on my bad.
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  Speaker 2: Like, I want to talk about Game three, the different
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  Speaker 2: energy from Game three to Game four.
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  Speaker 1: So of course game.
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  Speaker 2: Three, the Orange Man, Donald President Donald Trump was there,
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  Speaker 2: there was a lot of celebrities that weren't Knicks fans.
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  Speaker 2: Then what was the energy like in Game three?
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  Speaker 4: I will say Game three was kind of tense, and
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  Speaker 4: I think a lot of it had to do with routine,
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  Speaker 4: even my routine, y'all, Like, and.
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm cool.
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  Speaker 4: I know everybody got jobs to do, but I was
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  Speaker 4: hot coming in and might have had some conversations. I
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  Speaker 4: wasn't proud of trying to get into the arena because
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  Speaker 4: everything was so exponentially more difficult, right, And I get it,
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  Speaker 4: you gotta be safe and all that good stuff, but
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  Speaker 4: it was really really frustrating to get in the building.
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  Speaker 4: And I continue to say this, I think for the
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  Speaker 4: players y'all across sports routine is so important. They are
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  Speaker 4: so particular about their routine, their meals, their naps, They're
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  Speaker 4: stretching their routine, and everything was off because of all
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  Speaker 4: of the pomp and circumstances. I'm glad it went smoothly,
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  Speaker 4: there was no incident, but I did feel like, and
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  Speaker 4: for three and a half quarters, we were tested. But
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  Speaker 4: I did feel like Game four would be the opportunity
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  Speaker 4: for everybody to settle in and take advantage of the
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  Speaker 4: incredible fans, all of them in the garden, and ultimately, y'all,
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  Speaker 4: that's what happened. But I ain't gonna hold you a halftime.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, Oh, here we go. It's about to
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  Speaker 4: get real difficult. We're going back to San Antonio too too.
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  Speaker 4: I kept saying, if they could get it to ten,
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  Speaker 4: if they get it to ten, I believe, like we've
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  Speaker 4: seen get it to ten, get it to ten with
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  Speaker 4: enough time to play ball. And I think I looked
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  Speaker 4: at the clock right around the eight minute mark and
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  Speaker 4: I said to my radio partner Tyler Murray, I was like,
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  Speaker 4: all right, this is where it started.
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  Speaker 1: To happen in Cleveland the league.
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  Speaker 4: I can't remember exactly the deficit at that point, but
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  Speaker 4: I was like, it's gotta be now, and sure enough,
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  Speaker 4: man shout out to og y'all good lead.
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  Speaker 2: They want to ask you were people leaving when they
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  Speaker 2: would say, I got I gotta give the fans credit.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't see anybody.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, I didn't sound and we're up at like two hundred,
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  Speaker 4: so I have a pretty good view.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe people behind me was leaving, but I didn't see.
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  Speaker 4: Like and my Tyler did a great job on our
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  Speaker 4: radio call. At one point the deficit was nineteen. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it was nineteen, and he's like, if you listen, if
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  Speaker 4: you were just listening to the crowd, you would think
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  Speaker 4: the deficit.
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  Speaker 3: Was only nine.
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  Speaker 4: Like, I gotta give the fans. They propped, y'all tell
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  Speaker 4: include everybody only doing anything. It was they they stood in,
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  Speaker 4: they did not leave like it was. That to me
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  Speaker 4: was impressible because you know, we've been there all seasons.
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  Speaker 4: Sometimes we got things to do with New York. I
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  Speaker 4: want to be traffic.
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  Speaker 5: Nobody left as a basketball and analyst, right, do you
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  Speaker 5: realize you're watching history in the moment.
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  Speaker 4: It's funny Charlotte made before the game, I like had
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  Speaker 4: one of those moments where you just kind of sit
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  Speaker 4: and soak it in because for me, I'm I'm living
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  Speaker 4: my dream in many ways right, Like I'm covering the
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  Speaker 4: NBA Finals in New York City, in a city that
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  Speaker 4: has embraced me in a way that I could have
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  Speaker 4: never anticipated. Like the guys are super cool, Like so
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  Speaker 4: many things are aligning for me. It registered when they
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  Speaker 4: won the thirteenth Game two in San Antonio yesterday, Tyler
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  Speaker 4: closes the call biggest hit comeback in NBA Finals history,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm like between, because we've covered sports three to
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  Speaker 4: one has happened, right, but I'm between, like this was incredible.
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  Speaker 4: But also Jayalen Brussel, Oh, Jannerobe, all of them are
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  Speaker 4: going to say the job's not done.
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  Speaker 1: So we got to like, yes, enjoy it. It's you
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  Speaker 1: for and I said it, but the job is not done.
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  Speaker 4: But it's this is like everybody's talking about the different
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  Speaker 4: books that will be written.
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  Speaker 1: Like I got a book two okay in terms of
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  Speaker 1: telling the story, Like it's it's so incredible. I love
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  Speaker 1: it now.
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  Speaker 2: Ba che Lamaine argue, Right, I think Nixon five, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: he thinks Nixon six. He wants him to come back.
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  Speaker 2: I don't, I don't, I don't want to play that game.
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  Speaker 2: We haven't won it so long. If we need to
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  Speaker 2: win this Senate toil the let's win it sen it too.
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  Speaker 2: We're still gonna have a big what's your prediction.
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  Speaker 4: I came into the series saying Nixon six, But I'm
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  Speaker 4: with you because you gotta put them away. You gotta
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  Speaker 4: put them away. Like if they get it done in
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  Speaker 4: San Antonio, so be it. We'll have to parade. We'll
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  Speaker 4: have a celebration of a party all summer. I think
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  Speaker 4: I'm curious to see what emotional toll Game four has
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  Speaker 4: taken y'all, because that was a lot like this is
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  Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like on the call when it's one
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  Speaker 4: point four left, they are hugging og like it was over,
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  Speaker 4: but they got a seven and a half foot dude
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  Speaker 4: on the other side and it's one point four like
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  Speaker 4: it's enough time for something happen. Y'all got to regroup
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  Speaker 4: and defend, and ultimately they did. I'm really curious to
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  Speaker 4: see what the emotional toll is on both teams because
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  Speaker 4: I thought coming into the series and Victor we and Byama,
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  Speaker 4: he's gonna run the league for a long time to come. Oh,
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  Speaker 4: we'll get into that, but I thought it was a
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  Speaker 4: little bit it had backfired how Honesty's been about his
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  Speaker 4: emotions because he said he was struggling to come down
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  Speaker 4: from the success of Game seven and as a team
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  Speaker 4: that needed to regroup. And I thought the Knicks punch
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  Speaker 4: first in Game one and part of that emotional process
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  Speaker 4: was a part of it. So I'm curious, will the
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  Speaker 4: Knicks veteran experience allow them to turn this one over
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  Speaker 4: and put their best foot forward to really close it
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  Speaker 4: out in five or is it gonna be one of
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  Speaker 4: those like, all right, they got the lead, they're gonna
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  Speaker 4: do it at home kind of situations, and in the
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  Speaker 4: same breath, it's got to be a deflated emotional toll
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  Speaker 4: on the Spurs, like how are they gonna respond? So
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  Speaker 4: if you could get it done in five, absolutely, my
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  Speaker 4: original pick was six.
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  Speaker 3: I see.
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  Speaker 5: The reason I still think Nickson six is because I
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  Speaker 5: think the Spurs are that talented.
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  Speaker 3: But you said something that's very important.
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  Speaker 5: It wasn't just a game that's gonna take an emotional tool,
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  Speaker 5: just being in New York, not being able to leave
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  Speaker 5: the arena because he moved arounding your egg and you
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  Speaker 5: I'm saying, like they might not want to come back
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  Speaker 5: to New York. They might be Liken get him next season.
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  Speaker 4: I think I have a ton of respect for that
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  Speaker 4: team too. And as much as we talk about when
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  Speaker 4: Mama Dylan Harper, I love shout out to you, Maria, I.
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  Speaker 1: Love his mom.
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  Speaker 4: And then Stephan Castle, I don't know what their plan
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  Speaker 4: is going to be for the future in terms of
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  Speaker 4: point guard. But those two like them, dude them man,
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  Speaker 4: those boys are so good.
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  Speaker 2: That they beat up winn't be too bad because from
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  Speaker 2: from whom he was on his ass a lot last game.
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  Speaker 4: So here's my thing, I know, because nobody got ejected
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  Speaker 4: right like it was within the parameters of the game.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I'm saying when we got his little joint
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  Speaker 4: on on Cat two, I think I do think that
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  Speaker 4: that was a distraction coming into the game. And I
• 7:51
  Speaker 4: was arguing with shumping them yesterday morning on get Up,
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  Speaker 4: like I don't want to hear about this retaliation. You
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  Speaker 4: retaliate best revenge of your paper right by winning the
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  Speaker 4: game and playing hard, being aggressive. I thought in the
• 8:02
  Speaker 4: first half, I don't need a flagrant while you're down
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  Speaker 4: twenty five already, Like that's it's not giving right and.
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  Speaker 1: So ultimately they got it done.
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  Speaker 4: When they just started to play downhill, play hard, the
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  Speaker 4: Spurs started missing threes and the Nicks capitalized.
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  Speaker 2: Lit to Alvarado, were you surprised he didn't get a
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  Speaker 2: flagrant when he lifted up.
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  Speaker 1: His leg, I was. I was surprised. I thought for
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  Speaker 1: sure that we'll give him flagrant because I'm like this lightweight,
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  Speaker 1: a little wrestling move bro like you.
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  Speaker 4: Not that I feel you, but again, like and y'all
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  Speaker 4: been in the city to the change at head coach,
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  Speaker 4: Mike has really lived up to everything he said he
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  Speaker 4: was gonna be. Like I remember when he got here
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  Speaker 4: and he's like, I want to be collaborative.
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  Speaker 1: Yea, all right, Mike, welcome to New York.
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  Speaker 4: I want to I'm gonna throw the fifteenth man on
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  Speaker 4: the bench in the game just to make sure they're ready.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Mike, go to there's New York. He's done
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  Speaker 1: all of it, did it? He's done all of it.
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  Speaker 4: And I think yesterday's decision to go with Jose Alvarado
• 8:46
  Speaker 4: and you go with your two guard lineup so that
• 8:48
  Speaker 4: the game is faster, Like Jose was one of the
• 8:50
  Speaker 4: few dudes who attacked weinby like he might not have
• 8:53
  Speaker 4: attacked him straight up to lay it up, but like
• 8:55
  Speaker 4: he's getting in the paint, moving the defense around, using
• 8:57
  Speaker 4: his speed and for him to shoot the three, well, yesterday,
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  Speaker 4: let's go jose Off.
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  Speaker 1: I don't find it.
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  Speaker 4: Go grazy King, that's my guy. I'm really happy for him.
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  Speaker 5: I think the league in corporate America and some media
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  Speaker 5: is desperate for a new face of the league, and
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  Speaker 5: they may have crowned wouldn't be too fast.
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  Speaker 4: I gotta give shout out to Robert Orie because we
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  Speaker 4: were in San Antonio and I think he's the first
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  Speaker 4: person that I said and he's got the legacy right
• 9:17
  Speaker 4: having woman multiple teams including San Antonio.
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  Speaker 1: He's like it's he said, it was too soon. You
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  Speaker 1: got to actually win.
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  Speaker 4: And Mike willbarm who we love is he's one who
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  Speaker 4: is big on you have to have the heartbreak. The
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  Speaker 4: scar tissue is the word that I like to use.
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  Speaker 4: All of this is learning. But look at the other side,
• 9:34
  Speaker 4: y'all that Treyon I'm not Treon. Sorry Knicks fans, what's
• 9:38
  Speaker 4: my guy Halliburton that bounced last year? Like the Knicks
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  Speaker 4: have had consecutive years of heartbreaking in terms of you
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  Speaker 4: would look at him and be like, oh, this might
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  Speaker 4: be there year Like it's shaping up right, And so
• 9:46
  Speaker 4: they've gone through the heartbreak. And what I think is
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  Speaker 4: unique about this group is the core has been able
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  Speaker 4: to stay together and allowed those experiences to propel them
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  Speaker 4: to this moment y'all. Like I just once it got
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  Speaker 4: to ten for me having watched this group, there was
• 9:58
  Speaker 4: just an expectation there was they're gonna figure it out,
• 10:01
  Speaker 4: like Jayla has been saying the last two seasons, for sure,
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  Speaker 4: will find a way, and they did it again.
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  Speaker 3: Does this team stay together? Though?
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  Speaker 1: If they win a chip? Why would you bust them up?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, and I'm not has done weird things before.
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  Speaker 4: If they win, I have a hard time believing that
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  Speaker 4: they would get broken up. I'm also not a cap expert,
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  Speaker 4: so and I get like, there's some money on the
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  Speaker 4: books that they got to figure out.
• 10:21
  Speaker 1: But why why would you break them up?
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  Speaker 4: And I'm so glad they got the chance to run
• 10:25
  Speaker 4: it back because you know, the Yannest Noys was loud.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that this group.
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  Speaker 4: Considering what they had been through, they had earned the
• 10:30
  Speaker 4: opportunity to run it back.
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  Speaker 1: And y'all, they have done it.
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  Speaker 4: In historic fashion, thirteen consecutive wins, Yes, twenty nine point
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  Speaker 4: come back like all this is not supposed happen in
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  Speaker 4: one season, Like.
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  Speaker 1: It's not.
• 10:39
  Speaker 5: Do you think Winby is as dominant as he could?
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  Speaker 5: Because that's that's what I now. Yet I'm like, yo,
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  Speaker 5: you're seven six with that skill set, there's no reason
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  Speaker 5: for you not to be taken over a game. Not
• 10:47
  Speaker 5: yet put weight on I think he wait so he
• 10:51
  Speaker 5: Shaq was dominating his third.
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: Year, he got swept too, wet.
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  Speaker 3: What I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: You were found dominant tho because Wivy was defensive player?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, like all that, Eve, but I feel like you
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  Speaker 5: should You should be able to will your team to
• 11:04
  Speaker 5: victory just by your mere presence being on the court.
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  Speaker 5: He should be he had a double, w had twenty
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  Speaker 5: six and thirteen and something. What ya he should be
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  Speaker 5: doing like and eighteen every game.
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  Speaker 4: This is where I think, like, and I get it,
• 11:16
  Speaker 4: we're all fans, but if you're not in the day
• 11:18
  Speaker 4: to day, like I think, we don't grasp how diligent opponents.
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  Speaker 1: Prepare, right like I eventually do.
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  Speaker 4: I think Wimby would be like, all right, good luck baby,
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  Speaker 4: But I also know there are so many great basketball
• 11:30
  Speaker 4: minds around the league.
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  Speaker 1: They are looking at every little thing.
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  Speaker 4: Okay for some riight, he gonna say, wonderabul Right, then
• 11:34
  Speaker 4: we go to send to help like they they are
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  Speaker 4: getting down to the minutia.
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: Of the details of how to make a guy uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 4: And I think what you saw with the next yesterday
• 11:41
  Speaker 4: in particular Oji hat and Obe spent some time on him.
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  Speaker 1: And right now in the playoffs.
• 11:46
  Speaker 4: First of all, if this is your first playoff, rodeo,
• 11:48
  Speaker 4: we are in June playing basketball like I'm tired.
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  Speaker 1: Bro, Like I get it right.
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  Speaker 4: And so I think the two If you look at
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  Speaker 4: what Wimby did in the Western Conference finals when the
• 11:55
  Speaker 4: cadence was one day between games, he would have a
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  Speaker 4: big one and even if the numbers at the end
• 12:01
  Speaker 4: of the game looked good, he didn't have the same
• 12:03
  Speaker 4: pop energy impact.
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  Speaker 1: And so I think yesterday he just got a little
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  Speaker 1: bit higher.
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  Speaker 4: And so as he continues to grow in terms of
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  Speaker 4: developing the stamina that he believes he will need to
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  Speaker 4: be dominant, like the dude is focused out of his mind,
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  Speaker 4: like he's only going to get better. But I think too,
• 12:17
  Speaker 4: you got to give opponents credit like they're looking at
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  Speaker 4: every little thing, and frankly, if you shoot the ball
• 12:22
  Speaker 4: well like the next day in the second half like
• 12:24
  Speaker 4: seven for four is in the paint or running at
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  Speaker 4: you like, if you can shoot up like, that's how
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  Speaker 4: you neutralize that.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm excited for where the league is.
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  Speaker 4: I think he has come up in the face of
• 12:32
  Speaker 4: the league conversation so much because he seems willing to
• 12:34
  Speaker 4: embrace it. And you know, we got the sound from
• 12:36
  Speaker 4: Lebron about why you wouldn't want to be it and
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  Speaker 4: different guys not necessarily embracing that role. But he has
• 12:41
  Speaker 4: seemed fine with that crown man on his head.
• 12:45
  Speaker 3: You tell me, I don't think so.
• 12:46
  Speaker 5: Why because I think that cultural impact really plays a
• 12:49
  Speaker 5: huge role, and I think that you have to be
• 12:52
  Speaker 5: relatable to people here in America.
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: Do you think Lebron is I'm just asking, I think so.
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: I hear you on that.
• 12:59
  Speaker 4: Yes he's an American all I guess so, Yes, he's
• 13:01
  Speaker 4: relatable in that way. But if under that presense, the
• 13:05
  Speaker 4: most relatable facial League probably to me, was then staph
• 13:08
  Speaker 4: because at least he's everyday man's size.
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: He appears that way. Mind, joll y'all.
• 13:11
  Speaker 4: Stuff is a legit six three, like he's not an
• 13:13
  Speaker 4: average man's height, but he just looked.
• 13:14
  Speaker 3: At this culture like Shaq was coature. Yeah, that's Jersey
• 13:18
  Speaker 3: hip hop, BREAKDN twenty.
• 13:20
  Speaker 7: Year around those those people too. Like when they're there,
• 13:22
  Speaker 7: when they're playing, you feel like the team is looking
• 13:25
  Speaker 7: for them and looking at them.
• 13:26
  Speaker 4: Let me ask you this though, because y'all in New York.
• 13:28
  Speaker 4: Does Jaalen Brunst have a chance to be a facial
• 13:29
  Speaker 4: league I think so if it's about relatability, like whatever,
• 13:33
  Speaker 4: I don't, Okay, I don't, And I think Jalen brnce
• 13:36
  Speaker 4: is probably if he wins this, he'll be the best
• 13:38
  Speaker 4: nick to me.
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: But the problem with Jaalen is I think Jalen is
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: too closed off.
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: It's too many.
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: It's like everybody that has been the face of the
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: league has you felt the aura the energy.
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: Jalen just feels like, who are you on?
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: Mask on?
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: I'm just coming.
• 13:52
  Speaker 3: Mama mentality.
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: But even with mama mentality, Kobe was still charismatic. He
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: was still fun. Shack was fund, he was charismatic. Later
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: in his career was to charismatic.
• 14:03
  Speaker 3: I don't feel like they gave Kobe face to the lead.
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: That too was. I was mad at he did the movie.
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: It was, it was. It was a lot funner with him.
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: But I think he's just too militant, and I don't
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: think and I think organizations matter too. I think because
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: he plays on the san Antonio Spurst, it just doesn't
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: feel the same Wimby Wimby. That's interesting if you look
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: at who else was they look at Duncan.
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: Big. I just don't think.
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: I don't think san Antonio can create that because I
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: don't think there's enough hoop around.
• 14:37
  Speaker 8: It's only been like four maybe five faces of Jordan's Magic,
• 14:41
  Speaker 8: Harry Bird, Jordan's Brown Stuff, I put a little bit.
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: I think the thing about it is there's no All
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: of those guys had errors where they literally kept people
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: away from the Larry O'Brian Trump and so that I
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: think is as much as the culture piece is going
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: to be the thing. And then if you're looking at
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: the marketing piece, like the numbers bear Ol. People are
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: watching with me. They want to see what this alien
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: is fitting to do, right, so we'll see I think
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: he has owned that.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: I will be really curious because.
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: You know what they're saying, like he's not watching basketball,
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: the way they used to. We're consuming highlights blah blah blah,
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: Like will he bring people back to the game in
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: the traditional sense, like that's a big metric.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: Does he do enough highlights for that?
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: I think we're gonna get bored with his highlights because
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: he's so big, and he makes it look like you
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: got to rebound and you tipped it in your hand,
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: was right there, like amazing.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: It is amazing, But it doesn't exactly.
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: It's like the dunk contest, right, Like you get hyped
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: when the little dude's done, because the big dudes make
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: it look easy. Like I think he's fantastic, and I
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: think there's a tremendous amount of upside. I hope, like
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: we talked about as this team continues to go, Dylan Harper,
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: Stephan Castle like they are as important he's He's truly
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: one of one, like eye popping stats, impacting on both
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: sides of the basketball, like San Aatoni is gonna be
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: a very very good organization. The Knicks need to go
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: ahead and close out the deal because people gonna be
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: dealing with san Antonio for a time.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: How does the league deal with all the stuff that
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: goes wrong outside of the you know, to.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: Beat them, Spurs fan like, when does the league do
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: for that? Because that makes go into the games New York.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: You can't because if I'm a New York fan and
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: I want to go to San Antonio, now I gotta
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: worry about retaliation.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: They are so polite.
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: I almost feel bad that New York has cut up
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: this come on, like has cut up so bad because
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: San Antonio. I'm leaving the hotel, dudes like are you
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: with the Knicks? I was like, yeah, here for He's like,
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: you know, good luck, but we're gonna get you guys
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: when you.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Get back here. Like unsolicited politeness.
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: It was like the video, like the exactly video we
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: posted off the game too. There's a dude and I
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: think it's a Tim Duncan jersey that turns around and
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: is like shaking hands with like Knicks fans, Spurs fans
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: after they lose, y'all, like they are so polite, And
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: when we were in San Antonio. In the back of
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: my video, I'm like, they are so polite. So it's
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: quite the juxtaposition.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: I listen. I do think just like we want sportsmanship
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: on the floor.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: There's a love love sportsmanship that comes with fandom, and
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna just leave that at that. Uh, And you
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: don't want the few bad apples to spoil the lot
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: for the whole bunch, like we.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Already got watch parties canceled and whatnot. Like, just leave
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: it at that. I know.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: Don't you give your team Blottles a twenty nine point lead,
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: you might.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Deserve to get beat up.
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: No, if your team, I've been a part of some teams,
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: so no, I've been on that.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Like, no, I have nothing to do with.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: That nine thousand for a ticket.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: The loss is the biggest thing anyway.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: I will say this, though, I think the way that
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: New York has lit up, and I know y'all have
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: been able to be five years from me in October,
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: Like it's incredible.
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: I never seen nothing like it's incredible. I've been in
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: twenty years. I've never seen anything. I've seen the Giants win,
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: I've seen the Yankees Mets. I've never seen anything like.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been incredible.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: It's so incredible, Like I just it's and I think too,
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: like it's not.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Yes, it's a little panemonium and mayhem and emotions are high.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: But I've always said Knicks fans are so smart and
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: yesterday I always have had mad left for Knicks fans
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: before everybody's standing in, staying through them like it was
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: looking real crazy, and nobody left, like for real.
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: They're talking crazy.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: What they're talking crazy? Was it like wilding it?
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: When it was so we usually can hear the fans
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: behind us, and you know, people are frustrated and they're
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: oohing and I as, you know whatever, But nobody left.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: And when it was time to push, like y'all mind
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: it was twenty nine points, like when it got to
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: twenty it started to get loud. It's still a twenty
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: point lead, but I think the fans have come to
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: expect this team to figure it out, and whatever they
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: had to do to do their part to make it happen.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: They did it, y'all.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: Like I called it out the last play when the
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: Spurs are inbound the ball, like nobody everything was in
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: within the boundaries of being a fan on courtside, But
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: them fans are standing around Dylan Harper like cheering, making noise,
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: like whatever you can do to be a part of success.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: The history turned into the city, like everybody trying to
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: get to the parade.
• 18:53
  Speaker 7: It was one part of the broadcast where they were
• 18:54
  Speaker 7: like the room was literally shaken, and I was telling
• 18:57
  Speaker 7: them like you could like almost feel it while you
• 18:59
  Speaker 7: were watching one of our producers this money, Yeah, mind
• 19:02
  Speaker 7: your business, you know who I was.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And that is a great observation because yeah, like
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: the places alive. I don't know if I've ever felt
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: such a contrast for the same team in two games
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: and not in game three.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Obviously there was you know, extra pomp and circumstance.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: Part of it was the result, but even in game three,
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: like the Knicks they had a chance late but yesterday,
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: like that will go down in like my personal dopest
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: experience covering sport, like the like the the building is
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: shaking at twenty let alone as it's getting down in
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: it taking a lead, and.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: You know Knicks fan smart, so Josh Hart blows the layups.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: I don't even really think I heard like the collective
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: grown as much as I heard them trying to continue
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: to cheer, like they just all in.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: I just y'all, like.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Who I wanted to ask about the flopping criticism and
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: ricily sga and it's been a big thing on the
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: league man.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: To be flopping.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: He always want to on the floor. Listen.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: I think the SGA thing got a little too loud
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: because it's not that many games left in the last
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: in the Western Conference of Eastern Conference series. To me,
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: don't hate to play hate the game, like have a
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: conversation with the officials this summer, because if you are,
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: if that is working for you, then why why would he?
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Why would he not?
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, And I there is a
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: space in the game. I think Jalen legitimately gets bodied.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: But Jalen sells calls too, like what you want kat
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: gonna sell a call, right, And so if it's working
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: for you, what you want me to do? Now, if
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: there's a real conversation, I'm sure players and officials meet,
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: the league meet, Like if there's a real conversation when
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: we get to our broadcast meetings in the fall and
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: they say new points of emphasis and the head fake
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: pump thing is a part of new points of emphasis,
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: will know some real conversations were had. But I think
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: if you can manipulate things in your favor like that
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: is part of craftsmanship, the art of being a competitor.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: I thought they stopped the hackershack thing.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: They never stopped that, well, they changed the rules.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: You can't do it within the last two minutes of
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: a core. But the hacker Mitch is definitely a thing
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: because the crazy and you go straight to the free
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: throw line.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: So like, yeah, so there's that.
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: Do you think the NBA has an identity crisis because
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: you know, you see KD getting older, Lebron getting old,
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: the stuff getting older, Like, are fans just uncomfortable with change?
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: That's why they haven't embraced anybody? Really, this new generation.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: I hadn't thought about it as an identity crisis. Like
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: I said earlier, I think the younger generation is consuming
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: sport differently than we did. And so like I'm not
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: I'm not right, Like I'm sitting in the meetings with execs,
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: but I know they are watching viewership and all that stuff.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: Like the viewing is up crazy on this series. But
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: you literally got a dream outside of like the Lakers
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: being here, right, Wimmy's an attraction. The Knicks are an
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: attraction without a doubt.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say an.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: Identity crisis, but I do think that the way we
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: consume sport is changing. The younger athlete and the younger
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: fan all coincide. Like I remember being an athlete, and
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: as an athlete, I was gonna watch the games because
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to learn, like not let alone just be
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: a fan. And so what are the metrics that we
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: are using to measure growth or identity.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: I'm not one hundred percent.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: Sure that they're aware of what those are, but y'all,
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: I think the basketball this postseason has been so fun, Like.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: It's been fantastic if you still love ball, Like what
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: do we talk about? Like this is great? You know
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: what I mean?
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: So?
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: And I think for me walking around pregame and the
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: amount of people with their kids and and just the
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: kids being energized. They got picks, they got their favorite players,
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: Like sport is such a community thing that this is
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: how you move it forward in terms of garnering real
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: interest so that you can get past that law like
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: let your kids land on who they love.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: I know New York kids don't have no choice.
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: They knicks fans like whatever, But there still is the
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: era of fans latching onto a player as opposed to
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: an organization.
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: That's in you to say that about the highlights thing
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: because I was arguing with a younger white guy and
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: he literally said to me, Haitln Clark is the greatest
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: woman's basketball player of all time. Like, yo, ship the
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: fuck you don't even watch you don't watch women's basketball
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: in it You can make a statement like that, But
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: I think it's because.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: In the highlights and it's not even the best women's player.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: Now listen, and the conversation that is one conversation on
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: the men side of the house, it's a whole other
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: conversation on the women's side of the house, because to
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: her credit, she was the highlight that sort of got
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: people into like the highlights of women's basketball and so
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: offered sort of a gateway into that space. Look, man,
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: I think we're all of these things are cyclical, right,
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: Like it's style, fashion all that. I do think we're
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: going to get back to a place where people want
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: the community and like resent the isolated experience of enjoying
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: a highlight and if because what is still left for
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: us to do together holidays and sporting events, right, Like,
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: I do think that it will have its pool and
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: you know, literally bring communities back together, Like that's what
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: we're in in New York.
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: Why do you think conversations around women's basketball becomes so
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: divisive though, Like why can't people celebrate just all the
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: multiple stars that are in the leaf?
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: Why do you think people on my head about what
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: I said about Taylor because she was right? Okay, the
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: second part I think and I said.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: That I would ya and y'all know this.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: I would never want to show up in any other
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: body than my own, Like I love being a black woman,
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: but I do think when you talk about women's sports,
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: especially when you're talking about basketball, societal totem pole if
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: you will, you got black women and queer largely, and
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: so I think you hit on all of the things
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: that make people uncomfortable.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: It gets divisive. It can quickly move from sport to.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: Humanity, which is wild to me, And so I think
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: that's where we are. Let's y'all know how how shitty
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: the the internet is, Like it just it don't take
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: nothing for it to go there. And I just think
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: the idea of being comfortable with women competing for real,
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: Like I can I remember reading Leila Ali talking about this,
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: like and Ronda Rowsey talking about this, like people being
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: uncomfortable with women in contact sports like that, while those
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: are definitely literally combat sports, basketball can be the same,
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: like people are uncomfortable with women being competitive in that way, like,
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: go be a gymnast. And I mean this with fully
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: respect to gymnasts skaters because they pour years and years
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: into their craft, but those appear as more feminine and
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: gentle sports.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: While those are elite athletes as well.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: So I think there's a whole lot of intersection in
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: terms of why that gets so nasty so quick.
• 24:59
  Speaker 7: They do a lot or we're doing a lot with
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: Kaitlyn Clark and Angels, and I remember when they faced
• 25:05
  Speaker 7: each other when Angel was in Chicago, there was a
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: conversation about like, and you brought this up about race
• 25:11
  Speaker 7: and how race played a major factor, and that picked
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: up majorly as well too. You were just being honest
• 25:17
  Speaker 7: about if the roles were reversed, they would have reported
• 25:19
  Speaker 7: what happened in that game differently.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the language, y'all is crazy.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: I'm just worn my pr gets a note that I
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: had a ruthless comment about Taylor.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: No, it was literally's I didn't even remember saying that, y'all.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: It was just like, oh, girl, girt down here, like
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I ain't seen you all year.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: But again, words are powerful the way the story gets told,
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: Like all of these things come into play. And even
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: if you call out race being super peace of mind,
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: I'm just making an observation of what is happening.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Quickly as people all your races. No, I'm kind of
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: staying the fact.
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: But we have had to live in the fact and
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: it makes everybody else uncomfortable.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: But if it was a black movement, it would have
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: it wouldn't even be a story.
• 25:56
  Speaker 9: Just don't girl, whatever you bring up, has the media
• 26:08
  Speaker 9: done enough to prepare itself for like the increased scrutiny
• 26:11
  Speaker 9: surrounding like the intersectionality of sports.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: Like the WNBA.
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: And what I mean by that is, I think you
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: have to have people with a certain skill set to
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: talk about these things. I think you do very good job.
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: I think people like Jail Hill do a very good job.
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: You know, you have to have people that can discuss
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: all of these things because all of these things matter.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: Right, And so the answer to your question is no,
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: I don't think there's not enough time to educate. And
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: part of it is the nature of the beast now
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: because things go out quickly.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: It's about keeping up.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: It's not in depth thinking long form pieces, right, and
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: while yes it is glaring on the women's side of
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: the house, even the president of being at the Knicks
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: game like that was, I'm sure that was. You know,
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: not every player is gonna jump out and want to
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: make it a political moment. These guys are trying to
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: win a championship. So there are all of these moments
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: where the intersection of who we are and our experience
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: as a collective bleed over into sports. And I think
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: historically women have been more willing to use their voice,
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: particularly their w n B A, And we're at a
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: place now where you can't you know, if people decide
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: to speak on a topic or not, like it's totally
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: their prerogative. But no, I don't think that people are
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: interested in contexts. I don't think people are interested in history.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: And when you do decide to have a conversation about
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: topics that are a little bit charged, you got to
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: walk it very delicately and well thought out, and then
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: be prepared for this still to be backlash like that's
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: actually not what I said or how I said it.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: But cool, I'm going about my.
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: Day like there's no way for them to make that
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: tailor swift moment a black or white thing. I heard
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: a person who is a basketball and listen, just a
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: basketball fan when she become a Knicks fan out here.
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: Conversation to I feel like the headlines around the tailor
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: st thing, they're not pointing to that, but you, I
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: mean it's there because.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: If I was in a different body, it would be nothing.
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: I literally I should show you the tax questions I
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: got from a reporter trying to write about it.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: I'm like, dog, really is this what we're doing?
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: But anyway, listen, shout out the tail on as a
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: Knicks fan, shout out to the Knicks, like we're enjoying
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: it all.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: You don't know about that shot the tailors a Knicks fan,
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: she was on.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Mine back in the day origin story in the building.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: There you go, you come back in the building.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: The white woman gotta get the credit for that.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: The people.
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: There. You go.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: About to say, the same seat, same seats, same seats.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Let's let's rerun it. Bring back to let's rerun it.
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: Do you feel like the way that people have begin
• 28:32
  Speaker 7: to cover w n B A now because it's happening more?
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: Are you more proud of that? I remember you didn't
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: like when some people were or were not even a
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: covering certain things with the w n.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: B A not subtle.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: I think I've I've talked with many a friend, and
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: I think you got to take the good with the bad.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: I do think there are more resources being put forward,
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: But it's been an interesting year y'all, because I think
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: the w has had a few missteps in terms of
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: trying to protect players from media coverage. But we also
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: want media coverage that and I'm not talking about media
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: coverage that was messy or nasty, but like you, this
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: is sport. You are open to criticism about the actual basketball.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: These were like actual basketball conversations that I've noticed that
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: some organizations have kind of bristled with, bristled at in
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: terms of access and questions.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: So I think we're moving in the right direction.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: What I do think, though, is we're all adjusting, both
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: players and those of us that have covered the game
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: as a long time, like it was just so jarring
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: and shocking and nasty all at one time. I do
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: think it's starting to level out a little bit, and
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: I'm excited for some of the opportunities that these women
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: are going to have in terms of movies and commercials. Obviously,
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: we see injuries, doing doing all the fashion show things,
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: like I do think it's moving.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Is the gross sustainable for the WNBA? Are we still?
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: Like I kind of hate this question because what organization
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: is always straight up like to go up down, have
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: a back year, bounce back up, like that's that is
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: the experience of the American economy, Like you know what
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: I'm saying. Like, do I think that the league is
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: on an upward trajectory?
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Yes? Can I promise you that the numbers this year
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: will be as good as last year? I don't know.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: We'll have to see, right, And I think that's totally fine.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: Like what are people doing with their discretionary income when
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: the economy gets type if you ain't buying a w
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: and bait Jorgie because you gotta buy groceries, like I'm not,
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And so I do think
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: it is moving in the right direction. The CBA is
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: obviously historic and important. These women have an appeal and
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: a mass appeal, as we talked about Face of the League,
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: like they are sharing themselves in their stories and building
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: these conglomerates.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Quite honestly, and it's incredible.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: But if it takes a little step back in the
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: springs forward like I don't want anybody hollering and look,
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: the w's down, like the NBA has.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Had a couple down here, like you know, like what
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: are we talking about?
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: Absolutely?
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: What are some key players that we should be watching
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: right now.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: In the w Yes? Ooh girl, okay players, key players yo.
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: Olivia Miles is doing her thing in Minnesota. One pick
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: no because she wouldn't be as good as she wouldn't fit. Oh,
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: she would have fit. Azy Fudd was the number one pick.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: She's also wanted to keep an eye on. She's in Dallas.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: She's a better fit for that organization. Olivia Miles went three.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: I think to Minnesota. Those are two rookies that are
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: having outstanding years. Obviously y'all mentioned the names that we
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: all know. Wilson defending her MBA campaign. I just think,
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: I mean, really, I always say pick a city and
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: pull up, like where the league is expanding.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: We got teams in Toronto, Portland this year.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: Golden State is still puts on an incredible environment than
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: the OG teams. My hometown team to Washington. Mystics, the
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: Liberty are right here. I still think they are trying
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: to figure some things out. They should be in the
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: hunt in terms of contending this year.
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: Raved Johnson should be starting for the Fever at the point,
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: she should be the primary ball handled.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Now, I'm not gonna hold you.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: I've been locked in on NBA, so i gotta sit
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: back and catch up and do some tape. Ravey Johnson
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: is going to be an outstanding pro and she's going
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: to help that organization. I do know that Caitlyn has
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: struggled a little bit as of late in terms of
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: navigating some of the changes that have been made into
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: the physicality of the women's game. But I think there's
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: still a curve in the league and you're going to
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: hit it at some point. But I'm excited, Like the
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: star power is crazy. I think as we get to
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: WNBA All Star Weekends in Chicago this year and Chicago
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: a few years ago is one of my favorite All
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: Star weekends. We'll have World Cup play and then we'll
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: have the Finals in the fall, So I'm excited.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be a lot of fun.
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: Wadica, did you know that there was not a basketball
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: team in Baltimore but in full in the no, no, no,
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: it was.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: The Baltimore Bullets.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: You don't understand.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Did you know that? I don't think I knew.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: That the Baltimore Bullets.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: And then they moved down the street and they was
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: the Washington Bullets. I knew they were the Bullets, but
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: I didn't know they were Baltimore. Girl. I don't know
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: why they left. First of all, I don't even like
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: the bullets.
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: Because that's my home exactly. Rings me not only about bullets,
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: you know, even though it's a lot of it flying around.
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: But I'm just saying, why the hell we didn't why
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: didn't we get back the team?
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Girl, I don't know. That's a good question.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: You like bullets, no.
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: Bullet That's exactly the point, goofy.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: Sorry, well, I think I wonder though, if there's something
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: about like ownership groups, and I can't speak to the
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: ownership groups. I know the monumentals are part of what
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: the Wizards have going on. But you got the Wizards, caps,
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: the Knots, mystics, all of them there, and I know Baltimore.
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: Shout out to the Ravens. That was my first championship
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: parade ever covered when they won the Super Bowl.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Shout out to the Ravens. The raven and Orioles, but
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 33:07
  Speaker 6: Like but even with that, I just don't do I'm sorry,
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: I'm talking. And then also even if you go down
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: to the NFL. At first we had the Baltimore calls
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: and then they left in the middle of the night.
• 33:21
  Speaker 6: I know you're not complaining because you got the Raven.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: I know got a goddamn school in the church. But
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: but I'm saying Multimore. I still I just feel like
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: I know he left Baltimore.
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: She just don't know, don't know, don't know.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: I never thought about it because I didn't know.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Get so much, ladies, it's the breakfast Club.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Good morning and hopeful the next winning five.
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: Hold up every day I wake up, click your glass
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: up the breakfast Club.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: You're finish for y'all dumb
• 34:09
  Speaker 7: M hm