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Tate Brothers Suing Meta and TikTok · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Oh my stars, does it
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  Speaker 1: never end with the two Tate brothers, the notorious women haters.
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  Speaker 1: In the last days, Andrew Tate hits TikTok and Zuckerbird's
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  Speaker 1: Meta for one hundred million dollars, claiming damage when he
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  Speaker 1: was kicked off the platforms back in twenty twenty two.
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  Speaker 1: Quote it's good versus evil, says the accused rapist. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. I want to thank
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  Speaker 1: you for being with us. Let me refresh everyone's recollection,
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  Speaker 1: as we say in court as to who the Tate
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  Speaker 1: brothers are. They became social media famous, TikTok, instant, you
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  Speaker 1: name it for all their hate talk about women, right
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  Speaker 1: and they are wanted on claims of sex trafficking and rape,
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  Speaker 1: facing those rape and sex trafficking charges in Romania and
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  Speaker 1: the UK, with a criminal investigation going on here in
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  Speaker 1: the US as these called king of toxic masculinity and
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  Speaker 1: you Tate has just come to an epiphany deciding now's
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  Speaker 1: the time to go after Meta and TikTok for kicking
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  Speaker 1: the misogynist off the platforms a while back. Right now,
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  Speaker 1: hold up in Dubai with his equally infamous brother Tristan.
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  Speaker 1: He wants the social media giants to hand over fifty
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  Speaker 1: million dollars each for damaging his reputation. Wait what, He's
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  Speaker 1: already got a horrible reputation. Remember those rape and sex
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  Speaker 1: trafficking charges. I mean, how how can your reputation get worse?
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  Speaker 1: According to the claims, Meta and TikTok caused quote emotional distress,
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  Speaker 1: business interference and misappropriation. Oh my stars, I'm getting emotional
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  Speaker 1: distress remembering when all these two have been accused of
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  Speaker 1: The online influencer Andrew Tate with literally millions of followers
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  Speaker 1: Go Figure was detained and handed an arrest warrant issued
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  Speaker 1: by the British government. Tate thirty seven and creepy brother
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  Speaker 1: Tristan Tate detained. They were detained on claims of sex aggression,
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  Speaker 1: that's what they call it in the UK, in a
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  Speaker 1: case dating all the way back to two thousand and fifteen.
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  Speaker 1: Now a Romanian court where the two were hiding out
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  Speaker 1: has to make a quote pivotal decision whether they're going
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  Speaker 1: to execute the warrants issued by the UK Westminster Magistrates Court.
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  Speaker 1: They darn well better if they want to keep relations
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  Speaker 1: up with the UK. Four women reported Tate. Four women,
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  Speaker 1: not one, not two, not three, but four report Tate
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  Speaker 1: to authorities for sex violence and physical abuse. For some reason,
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  Speaker 1: the crown decided not to prosecute him. These victims had
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  Speaker 1: to turn to crowd funding to cover their legal costs.
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  Speaker 1: The four female victims handed over their evidence about the
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  Speaker 1: horrific acts of violence. They say they endured and just waited,
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  Speaker 1: but time passes and they were told the UK authorities
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  Speaker 1: would not prosecute them. Now, don't forget. Tate is charged
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  Speaker 1: in a separate case with rape, human trafficking and forming
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  Speaker 1: a criminal gang to sexually expel Floyd women. Why does
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  Speaker 1: this guy have millions of men followers? Freaks? How did
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  Speaker 1: the whole thing begin? Possibly the most misogynistic person I
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  Speaker 1: have ever encountered discussing tactics on how to lure sex
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  Speaker 1: trafficking victims. These texts, messages and more have now been
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  Speaker 1: leaked and it's all spewing from the empire built by
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Tate, a sex trafficker according to Ellie Law Enforcement.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, take a listen to this.
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  Speaker 2: Most people know Andrew Tate for his online content, which
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  Speaker 2: had been called misogynistic but what most people don't know
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  Speaker 2: is that he also runs a secret of all male society,
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  Speaker 2: The Warm, which he says is a kind of of
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  Speaker 2: self help society that helps you become better men. It
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  Speaker 2: costs six pounds a year to join. What we uncovered
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  Speaker 2: is that actually within the Warm, they're actually teaching men
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  Speaker 2: methods for grooming women into online sex work. And we've
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  Speaker 2: identified from the leaked messages you referred to at least
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  Speaker 2: forty five potential victims of this crewing method.
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  Speaker 3: Breaking news, disgraced influencer Andrew Tait has been indicted and
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  Speaker 3: will face charges of rape, human trafficking, and forming a
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  Speaker 3: criminal gang to sexually exploit women. According to officials, three
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  Speaker 3: others will also be charged in connection to human trafficking, including.
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  Speaker 1: Andrew's brother, Tristan.
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  Speaker 3: A spokesperson for the Tate brothers confirm their indictment to
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  Speaker 3: NBC News. Both brothers deny all allegations.
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  Speaker 1: The two were.
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  Speaker 3: Remanded into custody back in December before being released under
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  Speaker 3: house arrest in March.
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  Speaker 1: I can't stop someone from being misogynistic, that's within them.
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  Speaker 1: But I tell you this much, we can stop six trafficking. Now,
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  Speaker 1: what's so amazing is He's not trafficking women in secret.
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  Speaker 1: They're not in the back of massage parlors and nail
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  Speaker 1: salons with their papers stolen from them unless they have
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  Speaker 1: sex with strangers and then they're making the money. This
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  Speaker 1: is not some thirteen or fourteen year old girl that
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  Speaker 1: has been stolen and she's being hidden in some secret
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  Speaker 1: apartment somewhere in La far far away from home, being
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  Speaker 1: beaten in drug This is right in our face. This
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  Speaker 1: is happening right online. I really don't even know where
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  Speaker 1: to start taking listener friends.
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  Speaker 4: At BBC Prosecutors have filed formal charges against the controversial
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  Speaker 4: influencer Andrew Tate, his brother Tristan, and two associates. The
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  Speaker 4: charges include rape, human trafficking and forming an organized crime group,
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  Speaker 4: as well as illegally accessing a computer system and violence
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  Speaker 4: against one of the alleged victims.
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  Speaker 1: The indictment court.
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  Speaker 4: Says that at the beginning of twenty twenty one, the
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  Speaker 4: for defendants formed and organized a criminal group to commit
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  Speaker 4: to human trafficking in the United States under Britain.
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  Speaker 5: We know there are seven alleged victims who are apparently
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  Speaker 5: allegedly recruited by false promises of love and marriage by
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  Speaker 5: the two Tape brothers.
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  Speaker 1: Love and marriage, my rear end, that is not what
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  Speaker 1: this is. This is not about love and marriage. You
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  Speaker 1: were hearing from our friends at BBC as well as NBC.
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  Speaker 1: This is not about love and marriage at all. Guys.
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  Speaker 1: Before I go to senior investigative reporter for dailymail dot Com,
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  Speaker 1: Caitlin Becker, joining us, I want you to hear our
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  Speaker 1: cut fifteen from The Dangerous Rise of Andrew ta BBC. Listen.
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  Speaker 6: In the eleaked messages that we got access to, were
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  Speaker 6: able to see that up to forty five women were
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  Speaker 6: recruited into working on webcam potentially groomed using this method
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  Speaker 6: without their knowledge. We saw specific examples of men grooming
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  Speaker 6: specific women, and in the documentary we spoke to two
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  Speaker 6: of those women, one in Buenos Ayre's Argentina and one
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  Speaker 6: on the West coast of the US, who both alleged
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  Speaker 6: that they personally were groomed by senior members of Andrew
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  Speaker 6: Tate's warrem.
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  Speaker 1: That's not all. Take a lissnar are cut in Lucia
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  Speaker 1: Williamson BBC.
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  Speaker 5: The prosecution also says that women were forced by the
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  Speaker 5: defendants to make pornographic content online and alleged that some
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  Speaker 5: women did not control the money they made and were
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  Speaker 5: fined for crying on camera or for.
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  Speaker 1: Not working hard enough.
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  Speaker 5: As spokeswoman for the Tate Brothers said that they vehemently
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  Speaker 5: denied the serious allegations against them.
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  Speaker 1: Joining me in astar panel to make sense of what
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  Speaker 1: we know right now. Straight out to senior investigative reporter
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  Speaker 1: for the Dailymail dot Com, Caitlin Becker. Caitlin, thank you
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  Speaker 1: for being with us forty five known alleged victims. There
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  Speaker 1: are actually victims in multiple countries. That's not unusual. Do
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  Speaker 1: you remember the initial sorts from Nalie Holloway or US
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  Speaker 1: Not only US, but many other journalists and law enforcement
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  Speaker 1: were looking at the islands nearest to Aruba, including the
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  Speaker 1: Netherland Antilles, thinking she had been removed from the island
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  Speaker 1: for sex trafficking. That is a part of sex trafficking.
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  Speaker 1: You remove the victim from their home, from their money,
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  Speaker 1: from their cell phone, from their driver's license, their ID,
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  Speaker 1: and they're stuck with you and nowhere to go, and
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  Speaker 1: they're being beaten and drugged and they're taken away from
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  Speaker 1: their home. The fact that this conspiracy to sex traffic
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  Speaker 1: is in many countries. It's hard for some people to believe,
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  Speaker 1: but this is the way sex trafficking works. Who is
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Tate, Caitlin Well, Nancy.
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  Speaker 7: It's the way sex trafficking work.
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  Speaker 8: But it's also the way the Internet works. And Andrew
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  Speaker 8: Tate's claim to fame is on the Internet. I mean
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  Speaker 8: he had a short lived stint on British Big Brother,
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  Speaker 8: but really he became known in online circles for being
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  Speaker 8: kind of the king of misogyny and teaching men how
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  Speaker 8: to be men, which involved subjugating and harassing women. He
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  Speaker 8: had very popular online courses. He had one that called
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  Speaker 8: something Hustlers, and that was more of his public one,
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  Speaker 8: and then this war Room that you've been hearing about
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  Speaker 8: was his private one. But he also had very popular
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  Speaker 8: social media account where he propagated this type of bullying
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  Speaker 8: and misogyny and as you heard, essentially allegedly grooming, and
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  Speaker 8: he garnered thousands and thousands and thousands of followers. And
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  Speaker 8: for war Room particularly, you had to pay the equivalent
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  Speaker 8: of what is about eight thousand dollars to join. He's
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  Speaker 8: then profiting off of this and prowling like minded men
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  Speaker 8: to listen to the types of sort of vile information
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  Speaker 8: that he's viewing. So the conspiracy goes far and wide.
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  Speaker 8: You not only have Andrew and Twisting Kate, the brothers
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  Speaker 8: who were at the head of this that's sort of
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  Speaker 8: ahead of the stink, but you also have all of
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  Speaker 8: those war room members. You can imagine how far this
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  Speaker 8: can go. I mean, we have alleged victims. There are
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  Speaker 8: seven in the indictment, and they are from all over
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  Speaker 8: the world, several in Europe, at least one in the
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  Speaker 8: United States. All of their identities are being protected. We
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  Speaker 8: are also hearing potentially forty five others from these leaked
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  Speaker 8: telegram messages that the BBC obtained. But Nancy, those messages
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  Speaker 8: are only for one year, so you have to imagine
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  Speaker 8: in one year, if there's forty five potential victims, I
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  Speaker 8: can't even fathom how many of that could be.
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  Speaker 1: Crime stores with Nancy Grace Days, renowned misogynist woman hater,
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Tate slams TikTok and Meta Zuckerberg's Meta for one
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  Speaker 1: hundred million dollars for emotional distress and damaging the Tate's reputation.
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  Speaker 1: What reputation, According to prosecutors, rape and sex trafficking charges
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  Speaker 1: have been lodged and not one but two countries and
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  Speaker 1: an investigation going on in the US. Tate has nearly
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  Speaker 1: nine million followers on the social media platform x also
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  Speaker 1: known as Twitter. He repeatedly claims prosecutors have no evidence
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  Speaker 1: against him and that there is a conspiracy to quote
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  Speaker 1: silence him. Okay, when you start talking about conspiracies, you'll
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  Speaker 1: lose me. Remember everybody said the LAPD had a conspiracy
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  Speaker 1: against OJ simpsom to frame him for double murder. BF
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  Speaker 1: Like you think one of those cops would take a
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  Speaker 1: million dollars for a tell all book about the so
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  Speaker 1: called conspiracy to frame OJ Simpson. Yeah, it's my understanding
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  Speaker 1: and my experience. It's too difficult for people to keep
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  Speaker 1: the pyhole shut in a conspiracy. Even social media is
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  Speaker 1: shunning him. He's been banned from multiple social media platforms
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  Speaker 1: for misogynistic woman hating views and hate speech. What more
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  Speaker 1: do we know about Andrew Tate and his freaky brother
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  Speaker 1: I know this. They're rolling in money. Romanian authorities sees
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  Speaker 1: fifteen luxury cars, fourteen designer watches, and cash in several currencies.
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  Speaker 1: That's weird, worth around four million dollars. These two women
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  Speaker 1: haters and alleged sex traffickers are making a mint online. Look,
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  Speaker 1: this isn't just a single instance. Over three hundred million
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  Speaker 1: dollars US dollars was seized. That is the tip of
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  Speaker 1: the iceberg with how many people this guy is controlling
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  Speaker 1: and how many women are being subjected to sex trafficking,
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  Speaker 1: forced pornography, being raped, being beaten. In his chats screenshots
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  Speaker 1: purported messages from the quote war Room, Tate describes women
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  Speaker 1: as quote targets and assets, and explains how to isolate
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  Speaker 1: and manipulate women. In one message, this woman hater describes
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  Speaker 1: how he isolated one woman until she quote lost her
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  Speaker 1: support networks at home, and he kept her in his
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  Speaker 1: compound quote and this takes tastes like dirt sandwich to me.
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  Speaker 1: The real goal is for her to agree to never
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  Speaker 1: go anywhere without me, not even her hometown. I need
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  Speaker 1: her working. This is from his screenshots. He appears to
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  Speaker 1: seek help from his associates to force one woman to
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  Speaker 1: post sexually explicit content on only fans. He tells his
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  Speaker 1: followers he'll be making the play tonight. Since she moved
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  Speaker 1: to his compound, she's been fed, but nothing else. These
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  Speaker 1: are his words she's broke. She can't go home, she
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  Speaker 1: can't leave the house. Man, I sound almost evil, guys,
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  Speaker 1: this is such a huge operation. Take a listen to
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  Speaker 1: our cut too, Lucy Williamson.
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  Speaker 5: The charge of human trafficking is an umbrella charge, and
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  Speaker 5: within that there are several counts against each of the
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  Speaker 5: four defendants. We're also getting some information from the organized
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  Speaker 5: crime Unit about the assets that have been seized properties, cars,
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  Speaker 5: luxury watches, but also more than three hundred million US
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  Speaker 5: dollars in cryptocurrency. And we're told that there are separate
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  Speaker 5: charges that are still under investigation that may be the
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  Speaker 5: subjects of a separate indictment in the future.
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  Speaker 1: Think about it. How many times have I told a
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  Speaker 1: jury don't turn away. Think about what's happening around you.
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  Speaker 1: Think about these facts young women being forced into sex.
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  Speaker 1: Rate Think about it. Do you have a daughter, a mother,
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  Speaker 1: a sister. Think about her being forced into sex, isolated
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  Speaker 1: from her family. To the tin of this guy making
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  Speaker 1: at least three hundred million dollars. Nancy, May I hear
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  Speaker 1: someone jumping at Who is it? Nancy?
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  Speaker 7: This is Don Shiller.
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  Speaker 1: Hi, guys, this is Don Schiller and joining us training
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  Speaker 1: director for the La County Project with to Abolish Slavery
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  Speaker 1: and Trafficking. She's the best selling author of The Road
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  Speaker 1: through Wonderland, Surviving John Holmes down, please jump in.
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  Speaker 7: Go ahead, thank you, thank you. I also call myself
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  Speaker 7: a lived experience expert in and that's what we do
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  Speaker 7: when we go out and teach and train around human trafficking.
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  Speaker 7: So when I hear the word grooming a lot, what
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  Speaker 7: really applies to is the recruitment. Grooming is recruitment under
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  Speaker 7: the umbrella of what is human trafficking, And I'm luring somebody
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  Speaker 7: in on their vulnerabilities based off of meeds for love
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  Speaker 7: and attention whatever that is, because they didn't have it
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  Speaker 7: at home. It is really a classic form of recruitment
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  Speaker 7: into where the victim is then now kept in by force.
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  Speaker 7: Fraud and coercion and coersion is all types of things.
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  Speaker 7: The fraud is this promise of love that never turns
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  Speaker 7: into Love's always like having to force you into doing something.
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  Speaker 1: Guys, I'm looking online at Andrew. It's leaked text. Wait
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  Speaker 1: a minute, this is about maximum difficulty you experience in
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  Speaker 1: the business. If we all agree on that, I'll give
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  Speaker 1: you a play by play of what I try. I
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  Speaker 1: do this for every girl I get to work. If
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  Speaker 1: you guys see the value, you guys can use your
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  Speaker 1: bottom bit to do whatever g is doing. You are
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  Speaker 1: never going back to your hometown, even to visit without me.
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  Speaker 1: You understand that is part of his technique. These are
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  Speaker 1: his words, not mine. It goes on and on and on.
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  Speaker 1: One definitive excuse of raping one woman twice using intimidation,
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  Speaker 1: constant surveillance and claims in the victims that we're in debt.
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  Speaker 1: Take a listen to our cut eight from BBC.
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  Speaker 5: Prosecutors outline the testimony and the evidence that against Andrew Taate.
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  Speaker 5: It includes transcriptions of text and audio messages which appear
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  Speaker 5: to show how the alleged trafficking operation was managed and
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  Speaker 5: the apparent coersion, control and abuse of women by mister
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  Speaker 5: Tait and his co defendants. In one transcribed exchange, Andrew
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  Speaker 5: Tate appears to coerce an alleged victim into group sex
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  Speaker 5: using abusive language. His brother Tristan is also quoted in
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  Speaker 5: prosecution transcripts allegedly talking about slaving women for ten to
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  Speaker 5: twelve hours a day.
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  Speaker 1: Slaving wheremen from ten to twelve hours a day okay
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  Speaker 1: to doctor Joni Johnston, forensic psychologist and private investigator, author
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  Speaker 1: of serial Killers. One hundred and one question true crime
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  Speaker 1: fans ask doctor Johnny, thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 1: Explain what's happening here?
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  Speaker 9: Well, you know, I think the scale or the potential
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  Speaker 9: scale of what is going on is mind boggling. But
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  Speaker 9: the ausual techniques that we're hearing about, I mean, how
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  Speaker 9: many times do we heard these Nancy, you know, just
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  Speaker 9: isolating people from the loved lines and people they care about,
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  Speaker 9: the abuse, the coercion. I mean, it's we've heard that
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  Speaker 9: in a million different ways. It's the way to isolate
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  Speaker 9: and control your victims, and it's, you know, it's something
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  Speaker 9: we've heard over and over again.
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  Speaker 1: Guys, you think this hasn't happened before. It's happened so
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  Speaker 1: many times before sex culls, and it's always women and
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  Speaker 1: children who are subjugated, who are raped, who are sodomized,
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  Speaker 1: who are forced into pimping out for other guys. Take
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  Speaker 1: a listen to our cut nineteen. We're talking about nexium. Listen.
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  Speaker 10: Alison Mack is due in court facing sex trafficking charges
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  Speaker 10: after being accused of involvement in helping to recruit women
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  Speaker 10: as alleged sex slaves for a secret sorority within an
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  Speaker 10: organization called Nexium, based out of Albany, New York. Mac
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  Speaker 10: gave a testimonial for the group.
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  Speaker 1: When I first came, I had on the surface something
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  Speaker 1: that seems to be like the perfect life for a
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  Speaker 1: pretty good life.
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  Speaker 10: Keith Rinieri, the leader of Nexium, is facing charges including
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  Speaker 10: sex trafficking and forced labor conspiracy related to that secret sorority.
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  Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum joining me, Founder and director of the Cold
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  Speaker 1: Case Research Institute. You can find her at Coldcasecrimes dot org. Cheryl,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. Nexium is a US
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  Speaker 1: based sex cult where people were actually allowed being branded
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  Speaker 1: and beaten right here under our nose, including celebrities. The
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  Speaker 1: only thing different here with Andrew Tate is he's rubbing
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  Speaker 1: our face in it. It's right here on the internet.
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  Speaker 1: He's going out to the most expensive restaurant he can
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  Speaker 1: and videoing his celebration after getting to walk free on
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  Speaker 1: this nacy.
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  Speaker 11: I think some terminology here is going to be important.
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  Speaker 1: Terminology, Lyria Inn, How is terminology going to put this
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  Speaker 1: guy behind bars? Terminology? What does that.
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  Speaker 11: Matter to me because they need unders who he is.
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  Speaker 11: They keep using words like today on the show, people
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  Speaker 11: have said grooming that implies over time. Listen to me
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  Speaker 11: very carefully. There are three types of pimp. There's the
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  Speaker 11: Ceo pimp, there's a Romeo pimp, and there's the gorilla pimp.
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  Speaker 11: The Ceo pimp is all about money. He only cares
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  Speaker 11: about money. She's an object. He's going to make money.
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  Speaker 12: He owns her.
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  Speaker 11: The Romeo pimp may tell her, hey, you're my wife,
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  Speaker 11: you're my woman, put his name on her neck, tattoo
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  Speaker 11: her as property, but she believes they're together. Then you've
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  Speaker 11: got the gorilla pimp. He's going to bust you in
• 22:34
  Speaker 11: your face, shoot you up with heroin, and you are
• 22:37
  Speaker 11: a six slave in fifteen minutes. And here's the thing.
• 22:42
  Speaker 11: The gentleman that is doing all of this. He can
• 22:45
  Speaker 11: go from a Ceo pimp to a gorilla pimp, or
• 22:48
  Speaker 11: a Romeo pimp to a gorilla pimp. And that's what
• 22:51
  Speaker 11: you're seeing here. He promised them love and marriage and
• 22:54
  Speaker 11: the next thing they know, they're beaten, laying on the
• 22:57
  Speaker 11: cement floor, working eight hours a day with no break.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: And when you say working eight hours a day. What
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: you mean is enduring rape after rape after rape after
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: rape after rape, and the pimp gets the money. Does
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: the arrest of Andrew Tate and his creepy brother spell
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: the end of the so called manosphere? You know, like hemisphere,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: but manosphere the controversial, That's one way to put it.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Influencer Andrew Tate reportedly will be extradited to the UK
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: this after a grainy footage from police shows a man
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: dubbed the quote King of Toxic Masculinity being arrested in
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: the death of the Night along with his creepy brother
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: and hauled into a Bucharist court in handcuffs. Within hours,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: a judge approves the extradition of Andrew and Tristan Tate
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: to the UK, where they now face charges of sex
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: aggression in a case that dates back to two thousand
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: and fifteen, but the judge says the Tate brothers won't
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: actually be sent to the UK until they face trial
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: in Romania on separate charges of human trafficking, rape and
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: forming a criminal group to exploit women. Tate, now thirty seven,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: describes himself as a misogynist. He's a British American social
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: media influencer a former professional kickboxer and has around nine
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: million followers on x formerly Twitter. Of course, many of
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: them are just schoolboys. Hello. Multiple women in multiple countries
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: accuse him of rape, sex assault, and trafficking, and of
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: bragging about the crimes on social media. The US and
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: all of this. You want to tell me he has
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: not exploited women from the US, Well, let's go back
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: to the beginning. To you, Taitlin Becker, senior vesigedd reporter
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: dalimil dot com. Could you please explain Obviously I'm not
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: doing a good job, and I accept that you can
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: do much better than me, explaining what kind of hate
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: and vitriol Andrew tait spews. What does he say?
• 25:28
  Speaker 8: Well, first and foremost fancy, just to sort of put
• 25:30
  Speaker 8: the pimp question to bed, he sorry for the really
• 25:34
  Speaker 8: poorly timed pun there too. He himself at a course
• 25:38
  Speaker 8: called PhD in the war room. This is where the
• 25:41
  Speaker 8: conversations that you were reading came from. And PhD stands
• 25:45
  Speaker 8: for pimpin hoose degree. So he was doing this very
• 25:50
  Speaker 8: much in plane sight.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: You know what, you are so polite. I am not
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: PhD pimpin pose degree. That's what he calls women ladies. Whores,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: pamping whores. Degree. Now, if he were just those are
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: just words. I can't proscu some money for words unless
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: they're terroristic threats. But these aren't just words. Where do
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: you think he's getting three hundred million dollars plus? More
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: women are being raped and subjugated and trafficked because of
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Andrew takes cult like members that he creates. Go ahead,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: please Titlin Becker.
• 26:40
  Speaker 8: Well, on top of that, Nancy with the money, he
• 26:41
  Speaker 8: essentially ran a pyramid scheme with his Hustlers University that
• 26:45
  Speaker 8: was his more public platform. It was fifty bucks a month,
• 26:48
  Speaker 8: and they he essentially gave people advice on how to
• 26:52
  Speaker 8: be a better man and how to get wealthy, and
• 26:54
  Speaker 8: how to control women. And then he would have those
• 26:57
  Speaker 8: members go and recruit other members. So he's running this
• 27:01
  Speaker 8: sort of pyramid scheme on one side that I think
• 27:04
  Speaker 8: at one point had something like over one hundred thousand subscribers,
• 27:08
  Speaker 8: in addition to this other war room, which was certainly
• 27:12
  Speaker 8: more nefarious, and we know from those leaked text messages
• 27:16
  Speaker 8: that they spoke about women in just the most degrading terms,
• 27:21
  Speaker 8: and they spoke about actions with women, about how they
• 27:25
  Speaker 8: wanted to basically enslave them how they wanted them to,
• 27:28
  Speaker 8: not have any control, like you said, very cult like,
• 27:31
  Speaker 8: very much cult like, not have any control over their finances,
• 27:34
  Speaker 8: not be able to control what they did, what they wore,
• 27:37
  Speaker 8: what they eat, who they saw, and also separate them
• 27:41
  Speaker 8: from their families. So those are sort of the actionable
• 27:43
  Speaker 8: things that he's accused of doing. But what it comes
• 27:46
  Speaker 8: down to is he had a lot of these women
• 27:48
  Speaker 8: allegedly performing online on something like OnlyFans, which is another
• 27:54
  Speaker 8: subscription based service, and different kinds of pornography sites which
• 27:58
  Speaker 8: are other subscription based services. So he would allegedly get
• 28:01
  Speaker 8: the money in from that while forcing these women for
• 28:05
  Speaker 8: ten twelve hours a day to perform these sex acts
• 28:08
  Speaker 8: against their will. And these can be done anywhere because
• 28:12
  Speaker 8: everything is online.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum, I need you right now to help me
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: explain that I'm going to go to our other All
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Star guests. First of all, a renowned international attorney is
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: joining us, Greg Algrin and Lee Reeber, incredible forensic detective. Cheryl,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I'm not making it clear. I don't think I need
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: you to help me. I cannot expect everyone in this
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: room or everyone listening right now. To understand the outrage
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: that I'm feeling, I think you have to go, and
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: you have to either be a sex assault victim yourself,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: which guess what, you'd be really surprised about the people
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: you know that are sex assault victims that have never
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: mentioned it. You'd be very surprised unless you are a
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: sex assault victim, or have worked with sex assault victims,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: or you have gone and you have seen for yourself
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: the lives of these women in the back of the
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: nil salon, in the back of the massage parlors, in
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: the apartments, the houses where they are beaten and drugged
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: and raped by multiple men a day, and their lives
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: are torn apart and they are never the same. The beatings,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: the humiliations, these women, these girls just go numb. And
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: while I often say, yeah, you can go on, you
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: can go forward in their life, Yeah you can, but
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: they are forever wounded. Their psyche is forever messed up.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Help me, Cheryl, I can't describe the stem, the smell,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: the anguish, the numbness that these women are living through
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: right now while we're talking about which word to use,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: they're being ready to sodomize and mean right now Cheryl Antey.
• 30:14
  Speaker 11: I think you're doing a beautiful job that I know.
• 30:16
  Speaker 11: For us on the street level and law enforcement, it
• 30:19
  Speaker 11: is so difficult when you find a location and you
• 30:23
  Speaker 11: kick that door in and you see somebody that's about
• 30:26
  Speaker 11: twelve years old, and they're scared to death to come
• 30:29
  Speaker 11: to you. They're scared to death to talk. They will
• 30:33
  Speaker 11: not give the person's name up, they will not tell
• 30:35
  Speaker 11: what's been happening. They don't want to be reunited with
• 30:38
  Speaker 11: their families. Everything in their life is upside down. And
• 30:44
  Speaker 11: when you're talking about trying to help somebody and you know,
• 30:48
  Speaker 11: bring them back home and get them to a place
• 30:50
  Speaker 11: where they can maybe even go back to school, it's
• 30:53
  Speaker 11: almost impossible.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Yes, Cheryl hold On, I want to talk about grown women. Okay,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: and yes, everything you just said was right. But these women,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: it's like the ladies that I work with at the
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Batter Women's Center. They're so beaten and beaten down and
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: drugged and it's horrible. I mean, think about it.
• 31:14
  Speaker 11: It's not much different for us. Since she's twenty one
• 31:17
  Speaker 11: or thirty five, everything has been flipped for her. The
• 31:22
  Speaker 11: paranoia is real. The drugs they were given them is real.
• 31:26
  Speaker 11: The beatings are real, So you are so afraid to
• 31:29
  Speaker 11: go against that person. It doesn't matter what somebody in
• 31:32
  Speaker 11: law enforcement says, what somebody in your family says.
• 31:35
  Speaker 12: You believe this person that's.
• 31:38
  Speaker 11: Been beaten you, there's been drugging you, that's been sexually
• 31:40
  Speaker 11: assaulting you, is still in control of you, even if
• 31:43
  Speaker 11: they've been taken to jams.
• 31:45
  Speaker 7: This is Don Schiller Again. I don't think I am
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: a survivor of all of that. That is exactly what
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: I went through. I went through that with John Holmes.
• 31:53
  Speaker 7: I went through that with almost six years of being hidden,
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: being beaten, being addicted to drugs, being forced into prostitution,
• 32:01
  Speaker 7: being forced into crime. I did all of that. I
• 32:03
  Speaker 7: know that trauma is a life sentence. So I feel
• 32:06
  Speaker 7: you and I hear you on that on a big level,
• 32:09
  Speaker 7: on a big level, and I do care about these
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: women and I understand what they're going through. What he's doing,
• 32:15
  Speaker 7: I agree with you one hundred percent, is absolutely egregious.
• 32:18
  Speaker 7: That he's just throwing it in people's faces. Is even
• 32:20
  Speaker 7: more insulting to survivors, and the victims who are still
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: out there are scared to death to speak up. You
• 32:25
  Speaker 7: don't know you're a victim. When you are coming out
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: of that, you've been brainwashed into believe in that you
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: did it to yourself if you consented to all of that.
• 32:34
  Speaker 7: That's part of the tactic.
• 32:35
  Speaker 12: That the youth.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace. According to the notorious misogynist
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: the Tape Brothers quote, this case arises from defendant TikTok's
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: unlawful and motivated decision to deplatform Andrew Tate and Tristan
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Tate too internationally known entrepreneurs, commentators, and media personalities. Well,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: they're known for a whole lot more than that. Greg
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Augrin is joining us as well as Lee Reeber, Greg
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: high profile international lawyer with the US dah Emax Law Group.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Listen to this more of the messages and the misogynistic
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: hate spewed by this alleged sex trafficker. This is in
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: his wor room instructs members to quote punish victims that
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: would be women for transgressions by having her get our
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: name tattooed on her. One group leader, called a general,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: describes how he hit a woman in the head with
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: her own keyboard when she complained about something. The woman
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: who worked for him then went in the room and
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: worked seven hours without a break. It goes on and
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: on and on about how to beat and control women
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: to perform pornographic acts, group sex, many online, many on screen.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Greg Algrin is joining us. Greg. A lot of what
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: I know from these alleged messages of Andrew Tates I
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: can't bring myself to repeat on the air. But let
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: me ask you, what can the US do about it?
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Because there is there are so many victims here, I believe,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: including one victim whose name has somehow been leaked, and
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: all these a holes working Rotate or working under Tait
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: have actually started trolling her and sending this woman death threats.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, what are we going to do about it?
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: And what can we do about it?
• 35:02
  Speaker 12: Sure? So the situation is just it it's so outrageous
• 35:07
  Speaker 12: that it cries out for legal accountability, and I think
• 35:13
  Speaker 12: you know, eventually it has to catch up with all
• 35:17
  Speaker 12: of them in apartment right, because Andrew Tate is a
• 35:23
  Speaker 12: citizen by birth of the United States, and so he
• 35:27
  Speaker 12: can flee the country, but he can't. He can't lose
• 35:29
  Speaker 12: that citizenship. And that means the US, with his network
• 35:34
  Speaker 12: of mutual legal assistance treaties, is always going to have
• 35:39
  Speaker 12: an interest perhaps, you know, it's a question of sort
• 35:43
  Speaker 12: of capturing the attention of law enforcement. But the US
• 35:46
  Speaker 12: has the means to catch up with it wherever he
• 35:49
  Speaker 12: is and ensure there's some legal accountability. So it needs
• 35:55
  Speaker 12: to happen a lot of times. It's very very slow,
• 35:58
  Speaker 12: it's bureaucratic, but the process that it can be virtually
• 36:03
  Speaker 12: impossible to escape from once it gets started. So hopefully
• 36:08
  Speaker 12: we'll see sooner rather than later that legal accountability. There's
• 36:12
  Speaker 12: a structure for it. It just needs to be engaged.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: I want you to hear this. Andrew Tate quote told
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: rape victim he would get her pregnant, lock her away,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: allegedly find webcam workers that started crying during sex acts
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: on webcam and tried to coerce him into group sex,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: and then they started crying and so he punished them.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: This is his business that is making five million dollars
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: a month. One victim claims Tate tried to force her
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: to have group sex and said shut up horror when
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: she tried to. There are hundreds and hundreds of pages
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: of reported testimony and evidence verbally physically abusing these women.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: One woman tells prosecutor's Tape would rape her while holding
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: her head so as she couldn't move, and threaten to
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: get her pregnant. I mean, it goes on and on
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: and on. He would take her clothes and shoes away
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: from her and continue to beat her. Shut up, horror,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: you will do as I say. I mean, it goes
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: on and on and on, and I'm reading you only
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: portions of what I know. Many of these women, apparently Caitlin,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: are promised love a marriage, and then they are transported,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: many of them to Romania, where they are gang raped,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: sex exploited, and subjected to physical violence. There are hundreds
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: and hundreds and hundreds of pages of reported violence. One
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: victim reports a Taate coworker, a Henchman, threatens to quote
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: break her teeth that she would end up in the morgue.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: The women creating porn for Tates Brothers webcam business alleged
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: their income is controlled by the Tates. They are fined
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: or punished if they start crying during a sex act,
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: if they wipe their nose, if they take too long
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: on a break. It just goes on and on and on.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Many people ask how did Andrew and Tristan Tate get
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: back into the US. We know that Florida launched a
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: criminal investigation and to the influencers, I guess you could
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: call them that. They spew hate for women every day online.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Andrew and Tristan Tate. At the end of February, the
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: two fled to the US from Romania, where they were
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: accused of human trafficking and accused of forming an organized
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: group to sex exploit women. Andrew Tate also accused of rape.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Of course, they deny all the charges. Now, the two
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: were dual citizens in the UK and the US, and
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: they have made millions of dollars off social media. Online
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: they're extremely controversial with repeated offensive statements about women. They
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: have an American dad who worked for the US Air
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Force in Britain. Their parents met in the UK and
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: then they moved to the US. Now that's how they're
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: US citizens through the dad. The parents divorced, the mom
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: goes back to England. The brothers spent time there and
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: police there linked them to quote terrifying radicalization of boys
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: and young men into violence against women and girls. There
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: was a big red fl in Romania that they were
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: going to try and leave because they went quiet on
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: social media. They then flew from Bucharest to Florida on
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: a private jet back in January. Now why why? Why?
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: The travel band had been lifted and the two got
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: their US passports back. Oddly, the two have a huge
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: US following. Many people, many, many people in the crime
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: victim community are extremely disturbed by reports that US officials
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: asked for Tate's travel restrictions to be relaxed. Why now.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: The Florida criminal investigation is a civil lawsuit from a
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: woman who claims they coerced her into sex work, then
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: defamed her when she gave evidence to Romanian police. They
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: deny this again. At this juncture, the two are innocent
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: until proven guilty. I guess even the devil can follow
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: lawsuit because that's exactly what a Tate brother has done.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: That's right. Andrew Tate slams TikTok in Zuckerberg's Meta for
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars for kicking him off their platforms.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: According to Tate quote, it's good versus evil, so insists
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: the accused rapist. We wait as justice unfolds. Goodbye for