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Melania’s 34 — and Jelly Roll Cashes In on the Fans Who Built Him · David Pollack Primetime

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Speaker 1: The CIA drugged American citizens for 20 years in a
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Speaker 1: program called MKUltra. Then they tried to burn the evidence,
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Speaker 1: but tonight the records they couldn't reach sitting in a
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Speaker 1: German archive. And a country star who built his whole
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Speaker 1: brand about being one of us. Well, he goes on
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Speaker 1: a Hollywood show and decides to turn against us and
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Speaker 1: the president. More on that later, but first. THEIR FAMILIES.
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Speaker 1: THEIR FAMILIES. THEIR FAMILIES. 34 KIDS RETURNED TO THEIR FAMILIES.
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Speaker 1: 34 KIDS RETURNED TO THEIR FAMILIES. SEPARATED DURING THE RUSSIA-UKRAINE WAR.
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Speaker 1: SEPARATED DURING THE RUSSIA-UKRAINE WAR. INTO A ROOM IN ANCHORAGE, ALASKA,
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Speaker 1: AND SET DOWN IN FRONT OF VLADIMIR PUTIN. AND THE
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Speaker 1: AMERICAN PRESS, THE FAKE NEWS, WELL, THEY GAVE CHILD NUMBER
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Speaker 1: 34 ALMOST NO COVERAGE. INSTEAD, THEY SPENT THIS MONTH TALLYING
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Speaker 1: UP HOW MANY TIMES THE FIRST LADY WAS SEEN IN
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Speaker 1: PUBLIC RATHER THAN REPORTING ON WHAT SHE WAS WORKING ON
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Speaker 1: WHEN SHE WASN'T SEEN. THAT ALL STARTED LAST YEAR, AUGUST 15th,
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Speaker 1: AT THE ALASKA SUMMIT. THE PRESIDENT WALKS INTO A MEETING
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Speaker 1: WITH THE RUSSIAN PRESIDENT, CARRYING A LETTER FROM HIS WIFE.
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Speaker 1: A letter about children. Putin wrote back, and what came
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Speaker 1: out of that was an open channel between the first
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Speaker 1: lady of the United States and the president of Russia.
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Speaker 1: Back-channel meetings, calls, her own representative sitting across the table
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Speaker 1: from Putin's people, working on the cases one name at
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Speaker 1: a time. By October, the first eight children reunited. December,
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Speaker 1: seven more. February, April, July. And on the 17th of
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Speaker 1: this month, number 34. Here's the first lady in her
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Speaker 1: own words.
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Speaker 2: President Putin and I have had an open channel of
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Speaker 2: communication regarding the welfare of these children. In fact, eight
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Speaker 2: children have been rejoined with their families during the past
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Speaker 2: 24 hours.
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Speaker 1: Ukraine's government says nearly 20,000 of its children were taken.
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Speaker 1: A Ukrainian tracker had roughly 2,400. THAT'S WHY I'M HONORED.
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Speaker 1: I'M HONORED.
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Speaker 3: I'M HONORED.
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Speaker 1: I'M HONORED. I'M HONORED. I WANT TO TALK TO YOU
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Speaker 1: ABOUT THIS. I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS.
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Speaker 1: I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS. WHERE'S THE
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Speaker 1: FIRST LADY? WE HAVEN'T SEEN HER EVERY SINGLE DAY BECAUSE
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Speaker 1: SHE'S NOT LEADING AROUND, YOU KNOW, JOE BIDEN LIKE DR.
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Speaker 1: JILL BIDEN USED TO DO. THAT'S WHY YOU SAW HER
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Speaker 1: ALL THE TIME. BUT WHEN SHE WASN'T ON THE CAMERA,
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Speaker 1: BECAUSE NOT ONLY WAS SHE PLANNING AN AMAZING EVENT FOR
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Speaker 1: FOSTERING THE FUTURE, WHICH IS AMAZING, Then she's also working
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Speaker 1: behind the scenes to reunify families that are affected by war. And,
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Speaker 1: of course, the press isn't talking about this. And so
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Speaker 1: I wanted to talk today about that because it's so important,
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Speaker 1: the work she's doing behind the scenes. And as you
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Speaker 1: mentioned last week, you talked about the fact that these
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Speaker 1: are the stories, the results that matter. It's not what's happening.
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Speaker 1: It's not the optics. It's the actual results. And this
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Speaker 1: is a fantastic result. And tell me about the reunifications
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Speaker 1: and the differences they're making because she had a big
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Speaker 1: one last week on Monday.
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Speaker 4: No first lady in history of our nation has organized
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Speaker 4: six reunifications between two nations, in this instance, Ukraine and Russia.
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Speaker 4: It's an incredible accomplishment. And personally, I think it's time
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Speaker 4: for some sort of formal recognition from some kind of
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Speaker 4: an entity out there in the world. What we're talking
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Speaker 4: about is saving human lives. You just mentioned or referenced
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Speaker 4: the sixth reunification itself. Now, let's put this in perspective.
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Speaker 4: This individual who was reunified with her family had not
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Speaker 4: been with them. Imagine, she has not been with her
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Speaker 4: mother since before the Ukraine-Russia war began. Melania Trump is
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Speaker 4: fully committed to protecting children, both in America as well
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Speaker 4: as internationally. These individuals do not understand what it means
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Speaker 4: to be taken away because of war, geography, political ideology.
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Speaker 5: They're just kids.
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Speaker 4: That's it. and our First Lady is committed to protecting them.
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Speaker 1: Now, how did this come to her? Like, how did she...
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Speaker 1: Because I know she wants to protect kids inside and
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Speaker 1: outside of America, but how did she learn about all
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Speaker 1: these kids that are being separated, and how did she
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Speaker 1: come about taking the initiative to reunite them?
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Speaker 4: Well, just like you and all of your audience, she
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Speaker 4: learned about the situation with these children, the Ukrainian children
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Speaker 4: in particular, being brought to Russia because.
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Speaker 1: Of news stories.
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Speaker 4: And what she did was she took it upon herself
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Speaker 4: to pen... the peace letter, which President Trump handed to
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Speaker 4: Russia's President Putin in Alaska. And in that famous peace letter,
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Speaker 4: which is— you know, people could go online and see it now.
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Speaker 1: It's been disclosed.
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Speaker 4: She implores the Russian president to bring these children back.
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Speaker 4: And since that moment in time, behind the scenes, the
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Speaker 4: first lady has been working with President Putin's team, as
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Speaker 4: well as President Zelensky's team, and has organized successfully six reunifications,
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Speaker 4: bringing these individuals, by the way, Russian children who have
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Speaker 4: been displaced too.
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Speaker 6: It's not just the Ukrainian children.
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Speaker 4: It's going both ways, but bringing these children back to
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Speaker 4: their families.
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Speaker 1: It's amazing. Have you seen, because I've learned about it
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Speaker 1: because of getting to talk to you and you letting
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Speaker 1: me know about what was happening. You see a story
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Speaker 1: here and there, but the mainstream media, they seem to
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Speaker 1: be ignoring this, right?
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Speaker 4: No, that's for sure. I mean, You see articles coming
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Speaker 4: through news outlets like, you know, last week during the
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Speaker 4: IndyCar event.
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Speaker 1: It was interesting.
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Speaker 4: USA Today was happy to cover the event at the
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Speaker 4: Rose Garden and mention the fact that our first lady
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Speaker 4: hadn't been seen since the World Cup, but yet failed
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Speaker 4: to cover the reunification just a few days earlier. I
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Speaker 4: think they're selectively, for political reasons, blind to the first
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Speaker 4: lady's achievements. They don't want to give her the credit
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Speaker 4: that is deserved.
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Speaker 6: But think about it, David. Actually, I'm curious what you think.
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Speaker 4: If another first lady, perhaps a Democrat first lady, participated
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Speaker 4: in facilitating six reunifications, would she have some sort of
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Speaker 4: a formal recognition on a global scale?
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Speaker 1: They would put her as Woman of the Year on
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Speaker 1: every catalog. They would nominate her for a Nobel Prize.
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Speaker 1: They would be talking about putting up a monument. They
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Speaker 1: would be naming schools after her, roads after her. They
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Speaker 1: would be falling all over themselves in making comparisons to
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Speaker 1: how great she was to every other first lady, especially
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Speaker 1: the Republican ones. IT'S NOT FOR THE POLITICISTS. IT'S NOT
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Speaker 1: FOR THE POLITICISTS. IT IS SUCH A DISHONEST COVERAGE OF
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Speaker 1: SUCH A SPECIAL FIRST LADY AND IT IS SO RIDICULOUS
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Speaker 1: THAT THEY DON'T DRAW ATTENTION TO THIS. IT'S NOT FOR
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Speaker 1: THE POLITICISTS. LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S NOT THE OPTICS OF IT.
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Speaker 1: THE REALITY IS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW THAT
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Speaker 1: THESE THESE ARE GOOD STORIES, HEARTWARMING STORIES, AND THE MEDIA
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Speaker 1: IS NOT TELLING THESE STORIES. INSTEAD, THEY'RE FOCUSING ON RIDICULOUS
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Speaker 1: CONSPIRACY THEORIES AND ASKING RIDICULOUS QUESTIONS. SO, YEAH, YOU KNOW
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Speaker 1: WHAT MY ANSWER IS. IT'S THE FAKE NEWS, AND THE
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Speaker 1: FAKE NEWS IS GOING TO FAKE, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY DO.
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Speaker 1: BUT THIS FIRST LADY DOES THINGS IN SPITE OF WHAT
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Speaker 1: THE FAKE NEWS DOESN'T COVER, AND THAT'S WHY I LOVE
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Speaker 1: HAVING YOU ON AND TELLING THESE STORIES, BECAUSE WE NEED
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Speaker 1: TO TELL THESE STORIES SO WE CAN GET IT OUT THERE,
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Speaker 1: BECAUSE THE FAKE NEWS WON'T.
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Speaker 4: Actually has negative implications to our nation in ways way
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Speaker 4: beyond just influencing people's politics. So if you come back
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Speaker 4: and look at the First Lady, specifically as it relates
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Speaker 4: to the fostering the future accounts, we needed every— we need
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Speaker 4: every state in the union to pledge to support.
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Speaker 5: Every red state.
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Speaker 4: Every Republican governor has pledged in. But only two Democrats,
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Speaker 4: Colorado and Hawaii, have pledged in. And as a result—
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Speaker 4: All of those liberal states who have not pledged in yet,
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Speaker 4: New York, California, Illinois, Arizona, Pennsylvania, those individual Americans, the
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Speaker 4: foster care kids, cannot open savings and investment accounts like
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Speaker 4: every other kid in the country. So where is the
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Speaker 4: media covering that optic? How bad does it look that
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Speaker 4: Governor Hochul and that Governor Newsom have not yet pledged
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Speaker 4: in to give their citizens in foster care the ability
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Speaker 4: to open a savings and investment account? Wow.
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Speaker 1: They don't care about the children in these states because
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Speaker 1: they don't even allow them to do school choice either.
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Speaker 1: They don't allow vouchers for kids. They don't do anything
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Speaker 1: in these states to help the kids. Instead, they want
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Speaker 1: to go and take away their parental consent so they
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Speaker 1: can go get gender reassignment surgery and counseling and medication
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Speaker 1: for gender confusion. That's what they spend their time on
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Speaker 1: in these states. Thank God we have a first lady
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Speaker 1: like Melania. And thank you for coming on. and telling
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Speaker 1: these stories about all the work she's doing, reuniting kids
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Speaker 1: separated by war, creating accounts for foster youth, all the
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Speaker 1: things she's done as part of Be Best. It's just
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Speaker 1: been amazing, and we're going to keep telling that story.
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Speaker 1: Mark Beckman, thank you so much for being here.
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Speaker 4: Thank you for having me. It's great to see you.
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Speaker 1: It's an honor. Still ahead, the rifle in an American
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Speaker 1: during the most expensive shopping month of the school year,
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Speaker 1: while their own pensions hold 6.7 million shares of Target.
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Speaker 1: It's a crazy story. And later, the CIA's black sites
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Speaker 1: in occupied Germany might contain lost evidence about MKUltra. All
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Speaker 1: We spend a lot of time on this show talking
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Speaker 1: about where things like our beef comes from, where our
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Speaker 1: produce comes from. The Maha movement has turned health-conscious Americans
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Speaker 1: focused towards locally grown, domestically produced food, and rightfully so.
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Speaker 1: And if it's important that we eat the food that
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Speaker 1: comes from our communities so that we can ensure we're
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Speaker 1: getting the healthiest possible food, wouldn't we also want our
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Speaker 1: weapon systems to be produced locally? OR AT LEAST IN
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Speaker 1: THE UNITED STATES? OH, YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT A LOT
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Speaker 1: OF THE KEY COMPONENTS FOR THE WEAPONS WE USE, INCLUDING
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Speaker 1: OUR AMMUNITION, OUR DRONES, A LOT OF OUR TECH, OUR
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Speaker 1: RARE EARTH MINERALS, THINGS LIKE THAT, IT COMES FROM OVERSEAS,
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Speaker 1: WHICH PUTS US IN A VERY DIFFICULT POSITION IF ANY
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Speaker 1: OF THOSE COUNTRIES THAT SUPPLIES US WITH THOSE THINGS DECIDES
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Speaker 1: THEY DON'T WANT TO SELL US THOSE MATERIALS ANYMORE. TUESDAY,
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Speaker 1: THE SECRETARY OF WAR AND THE HEAD OF THE SMALL
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Speaker 1: BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION ANNOUNCED THEY'RE BUILDING SOMETHING.
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Speaker 7: To fix all of that, look, American battlefield readiness runs
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Speaker 7: through our small businesses.
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Speaker 1: It always has.
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Speaker 7: The vehicles, the planes, and even rifles in our warfighters'
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Speaker 7: hands rely on a supply chain of hundreds of specialty producers.
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Speaker 1: They're calling it the Smaller War Plans Commission. The name
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Speaker 1: is borrowed during the Second World War. There was a
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Speaker 1: Smaller War Plans Corporation, a federal body that got small manufacturers,
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Speaker 1: financing contracts, and technical help so the country could build
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Speaker 1: what it needed at the speed it needed. It armed
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Speaker 1: the arsenal of the democracy. In 1953, its authorities, well,
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Speaker 1: they were folded into the SBA, and the machine that
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Speaker 1: had done it, well, it stopped existing. 73 years later...
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Speaker 1: They're standing a version of it back up. Memorandum of
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Speaker 1: understanding between the Department of War and the SBA. The
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Speaker 1: mechanism is capital. Loan guarantees running up to 90% where
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Speaker 1: the law allows a made-in-America loan guarantee to finance equipment,
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Speaker 1: plant modernization, inventory, domestic capacity, joint teams assigned to strip
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Speaker 1: out the regulatory drag that keeps a small manufacturer from scaling.
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Speaker 1: AND A TARGET LIST, MUNITIONS, DRONES, ONE-WAY ATTACK SYSTEMS, MICROELECTRONIC
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Speaker 1: CRITICAL MINERALS, ALL KINDS OF TECH, SHIP BUILDING COMPONENTS, SENSORS, BATTERIES, CASTINGS, FORGINGS.
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Speaker 1: THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT WE RELY ON FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS
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Speaker 1: TO SEND US. AND YOU CAN READ THAT AGAIN AND
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Speaker 1: UNDERSTAND WHAT IT ADMITS, THAT ALL OF THESE THINGS, THAT
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Speaker 1: WE CAN'T MAKE ENOUGH OF IT AT HOME, AND THAT
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Speaker 1: IS WHAT THIS PROBLEM WILL SOLVE. AND WE'LL DECIDE WHETHER
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Speaker 1: IT WORKS. THE ANNOUNCEMENT WAS A THREE-MINUTE VIDEO POSTED TO X.
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Speaker 1: IT DIDN'T SAY HOW MUCH MONEY IS BEHIND THE COMMISSION.
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Speaker 1: IT DIDN'T SAY WHO RUNS IT, WHEN IT STARTS, WHICH
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Speaker 1: COMPANIES QUALIFY, OR WHETHER THE HELP ARRIVES, IS LOANS, GRANTS, CONTRACTS,
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Speaker 1: ALL OF THAT STUFF. WE'LL GET IT ALL FIGURED OUT.
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Speaker 1: BUT THE INTENT IS THERE, AND IT'S A CRUCIAL FIRST
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Speaker 1: STEP IN ENSURING THAT THE MANUFACTURING OF SOME OF THE
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Speaker 1: MOST VITAL MINERALS NECESSARY FOR OUR NATIONAL DEFENSE IS MADE
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Speaker 1: IN THE GOOD OLD U.S.A. JOINING ME NOW IS HOWARD KENT,
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Speaker 1: CEO OF ARMOR DEVELOPMENT GROUP. HE SPENT HIS CAREER DESIGNING
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Speaker 1: ORDINANCE AND ARMOR FOR THE AMERICAN MILITARY AND UNDERSTANDS HOW
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Speaker 1: IMPORTANT IT IS TO BUILD THIS STUFF AT HOME.
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Speaker 8: MR.
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Speaker 1: KENT, WELCOME. I WAS SHOCKED, HONESTLY, TO LEARN THAT WE
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Speaker 1: DIDN'T MAKE THIS STUFF, THAT WE GET OUR BULLETS FROM,
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Speaker 1: YOU KNOW, THE EASTERN EUROPE, THAT WE GET RARE EARTH
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Speaker 1: MINERALS FROM PLACES LIKE CHINA AND THE KOREAS. I'm like,
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Speaker 1: so we don't make our own stuff? And if we
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Speaker 1: go to war with them, it's not going to be
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Speaker 1: like we could flip a switch and start making this stuff.
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Speaker 1: We're screwed. I can't believe we haven't done this sooner.
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Speaker 1: And another thing that I learned, and I'm going to
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Speaker 1: throw it over to you, was that our own regulations,
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Speaker 1: our own economic environment is what put a lot of
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Speaker 1: these small businesses out of business and offshored all of
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Speaker 1: this stuff. We did this to ourselves, right? So talk
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Speaker 1: about this problem and how to fix it.
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Speaker 9: I agree with you 100%. That's one of the greatest
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Speaker 9: introductions for this topic I've ever heard. And I am
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Speaker 9: Deputy Chairman of Robotics of the NDIA, National Defense Industry Association.
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Speaker 9: Can I start with just one thing, the rare earth issue?
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Speaker 9: America needs to get off the addiction to the China price, David.
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Speaker 9: We actually have all of the rare earths that we
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Speaker 9: need in our own country, and we're once the leading
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Speaker 9: producers of these products. Twenty one percent of every small
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Speaker 9: magnet of which you need a dozen or more in
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Speaker 9: every electric motor are imported mostly from China right now.
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Speaker 9: And what they've done with their economic warfare against America
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Speaker 9: is undercut our price until our own producers are driven
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Speaker 9: out of business. And now they have control of markets
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Speaker 9: like tungsten and titanium and other basic raw materials. So
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Speaker 9: you have to give 1,000% credit to Hegseth's office of
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Speaker 9: the industrial base. Secretary Hegseth has set aside monies for
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Speaker 9: the production of powdered metals, of rare earth materials. They've
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Speaker 9: even gotten so creative that Uncle Sam has invested in
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Speaker 9: a gold mine, David, not because we need gold. Because
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Speaker 9: we're going to pull antimony sulfate, a critical material, from
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Speaker 9: the tailings of mining for gold. We're getting creative. I
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Speaker 9: have to give you 100% assurance that we can do
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Speaker 9: all these things that we're trying for. And in addition,
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Speaker 9: our machines and our technology will build products with an
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Speaker 9: equivalent U.S. market price to the China price, which we
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Speaker 9: have to wean ourselves off of because we will not
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Speaker 9: build the slave labor or using low-cost exploitive labor on
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Speaker 9: our products. We can build all these in America. In
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Speaker 9: the very last year's budget, the Marine Corps was funded
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Speaker 9: $ 48 billion, but the Robotics Department of Autonomous Warfare Group,
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Speaker 9: $ 54 billion. It's a very serious effort.
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Speaker 1: And so now that we're looking at fixing this problem
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Speaker 1: that we created ourselves, how long is it going to
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Speaker 1: take for implementation? I like this idea that we're going
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Speaker 1: to work with the Small Business Association because, again, a
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Speaker 1: lot of people don't know that I learned through mutual
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Speaker 1: friends of ours. I learned that you have these mom-and-pop
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Speaker 1: shops that try to produce ammunition to fulfill contracts with
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Speaker 1: local and federal governments, and they go out of business
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Speaker 1: because it got so expensive because of the regulations or
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Speaker 1: they couldn't get the materials they needed. WE DON'T MAKE
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Speaker 1: OUR OWN GUN POWDER. WE DON'T MAKE ANYTHING. AND SO
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Speaker 1: THESE SMALL BUSINESSES CAN'T COMPETE WITH THESE GIANT CHECHNEAN MANUMUNITION
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Speaker 1: FACTORIES AND ALL THESE COMPANIES ARE GOING OUT OF BUSINESS
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Speaker 1: AND THERE ISN'T MONEY TO SAVE THEM. We'll put these
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Speaker 1: people back in business. But how long is that going
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Speaker 1: to take? Because this has been done since it started
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Speaker 1: under Obama, when they started regulating ammunition and weapons. And
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Speaker 1: they said, we don't care if we make it anymore.
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Speaker 1: We don't care if somebody makes it. This is going
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Speaker 1: to take a decade to fix. And how can we
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Speaker 1: be sure that this momentum continues? How can we cement
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Speaker 1: this thing in? And will it be done by then
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Speaker 1: so we can at least have this production up and running?
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Speaker 9: Well, I'd like to assure you and the people in
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Speaker 9: China that we have not fired a single one of
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Speaker 9: our stealthy anti-ship missiles and only one of our really
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Speaker 9: great torpedoes. But several years ago, funding was given for
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Speaker 9: new nitrocellulose plants. $ 1. 2 billion was invested by Hanwha, the
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Speaker 9: South Korean company, to build it in Fort Smith, Arkansas,
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Speaker 9: a MAC ammunition charge for cannon propellant. And also nitrocellulose
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Speaker 9: plants are being built. America's back, David. It takes a
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Speaker 9: little time. I'd say you will see a relaxation in
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Speaker 9: what we buy from other countries entirely within the next
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Speaker 9: one to two years. And in any case, no matter
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Speaker 9: what anyone says about our defense munitions base, what they
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Speaker 9: got in the mag is more than anybody will need
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Speaker 9: for the problem they're likely to have.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's encouraging. I'm happy to see it. And it's
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Speaker 1: something that needs to be done a long time. We
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Speaker 1: need to produce our own equipment for our own military.
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Speaker 1: It's a no-brainer. President Trump, Secretary Hegseth, they're all doing
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Speaker 1: the right thing. And I appreciate you being here and
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Speaker 1: giving us your take, my friend.
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Speaker 9: Oh, I hope I did a good job for you, David.
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Speaker 9: Thank you for inviting me.
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Speaker 1: I think you did amazing. Thank you. When we come back,
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Speaker 1: the union that says back to school is breaking families'
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Speaker 1: Well, it's back to school. And the American Federation of
21:30
Speaker 1: Teachers opened the school year by telling its members where
21:33
Speaker 1: they can and can't shop. Not because of prices or value,
21:37
Speaker 1: but because of politics. Shocking, I know. Teachers union involved
21:41
Speaker 1: in politics. I don't believe it. The campaign is called
21:45
Speaker 1: Shop Smart, Not Target. It launched August 19th, a dedicated website,
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Speaker 1: a store locator, print ads and digital ads aimed at
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Speaker 1: one retailer during the busiest shopping month of the school year.
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Speaker 1: The union stated reason, as it put it on its
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Speaker 1: own website, Target, headquartered in Minnesota, has declined to condemn
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Speaker 1: immigration and customs enforcement operations in that state. That's right,
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Speaker 1: they won't say F-ICE. Union President Randy Weingarten's words... The
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Speaker 1: company's silence about federal immigration abuses has been deafening. Not
22:21
Speaker 1: anything they did, just what they didn't do. So I
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Speaker 1: guess all of the transgender kids' bathing suits and non-gender
22:29
Speaker 1: toys wasn't enough for them. It's a political fight that
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Speaker 1: started seven months ago. Weingarten wrote Target's chief executive in
22:37
Speaker 1: January demanding THAT TARGET GET INVOLVED IN A POLITICAL BATTLE
22:42
Speaker 1: THAT THEY HAD NO INTEREST OF BEING INVOLVED IN. SHE
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Speaker 1: WROTE THEM AGAIN IN MARCH, AND THEN ON MARCH 26,
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Speaker 1: THE UNION PASSED A RESOLUTION URGING MEMBERS NOT TO SHOP
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Speaker 1: THERE FOR BACK TO SCHOOL, AND IN JUNE, THE AFL-CIO,
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Speaker 1: 15 MILLION MEMBERS STRONG, ENDORSED THE EFFORT AT ITS CONVENTION,
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Speaker 1: AND THEN THE SITE WENT LIVE WITH CLASSROOMS ALREADY BACK
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Speaker 1: IN SESSION, TARGET BEING EXTORTED FOR NOT ENGAGING IN POLITICS. WELL,
23:05
Speaker 1: AT LEAST NOT THIS POLITICAL ISSUE. The locator tool doesn't
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Speaker 1: just deprioritize targeted filters for retailers that employ a significant
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Speaker 1: number of union employees, union labor, by the way, that
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Speaker 1: costs more. And as a result, the prices are higher
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Speaker 1: at those sites. The AF tool that they created makes
23:25
Speaker 1: teachers spend more money on supplies. According to the AFT's
23:29
Speaker 1: own release, it's 1.8 million members already spend an average
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Speaker 1: of $ 895 a A YEAR ON THEIR OWN MONEY ON
23:37
Speaker 1: THOSE CLASSROOM SUPPLIES. YEAH, WHY NOT CUT THEM A BREAK?
23:40
Speaker 1: OF COURSE, NONE OF THIS MATTERS TO WINEGARDEN AS HER
23:43
Speaker 1: TOTAL COMPENSATION RUNS ABOUT $ 500, 000 A YEAR, PLACING HER IN
23:46
Speaker 1: THE TOP 5% OF AMERICAN EARNERS. WHAT ARE THEY PAYING
23:50
Speaker 1: TEACHERS THESE DAYS? AND IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT WHAT SHE EARNS.
23:54
Speaker 1: LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT SHE SPENDS. THE HOUSE IS ALREADY
23:57
Speaker 1: EXAMINING HER SPENDING. LAWMAKERS ARE LOOKING AT MORE MILLION DOLLARS
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Speaker 1: IN UNION DUE'S AND RESOURCES THAT WENT INTO PRODUCING AND
24:05
Speaker 1: PROMOTING HER BOOK. THE ONE EQUATING CONSERVATIVES WITH FASCISTS ON
24:11
Speaker 1: WHICH SHE COLLECTED ROYALTIES. AND IN JULY, SENATOR ERIC SCHMIDT
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Speaker 1: OF MISSOURI ASKED THE LABOR DEPARTMENT TO INVESTIGATE WHETHER AFT
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Speaker 1: LEADERSHIP COORDINATED WITH RETIREMENT PLAN FIDUCIARIES TO DEPLOY MEMBERS ASSETS
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Speaker 1: FOR POLITICAL ENDS. AND WHILE THE TEACHERS UNION IS OUT
24:27
Speaker 1: WORRYING ABOUT POLITICS, NATIONWIDE PUBLIC SCHOOL CHILDREN are failing to
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Speaker 1: reach proficiency in reading and math. And over the past year,
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Speaker 1: more than 16,000 educators have left the AFT and other
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Speaker 1: teachers' unions for the Teacher Freedom Alliance, an organization built
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Speaker 1: around classroom work rather than political campaigns. Joining me now
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Speaker 1: is Corey DeAngelis, research fellow at the Heritage Foundation and
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Speaker 1: senior fellow at Americans for Fair Treatment. He wrote about
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Speaker 1: this in the New York Post. Corey, thanks for being here.
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Speaker 1: I mean, look, it's no secret that the AFT THE
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Speaker 1: LARGEST TEACHERS UNION ENGAGES IN POLITICS. WE'VE SEEN THE CONTROVERSY
25:04
Speaker 1: WHERE THEY'RE ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO GO PROTEST AND THESE NO
25:06
Speaker 1: KINGS PROTESTS, THESE PRO-COMMUNIST PROTESTS. THIS ISN'T A SECRET. BUT NOW,
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Speaker 1: I MEAN, IT'S EVEN BECOMING MORE OBVIOUS BECAUSE THEY'RE SQUEEZING
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Speaker 1: TARGET FOR NOT BASICALLY DOING THEIR POLITICAL BIDDING.
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Speaker 10: It's incredibly tone deaf by Randy Weingarten, who makes over
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Speaker 10: half a million dollars a year to admit that teachers
25:26
Speaker 10: are barely getting by. They're having to dig into their
25:29
Speaker 10: pockets to pay for supplies and then turn around, create
25:33
Speaker 10: a tool and say, you know what? Don't go shop
25:35
Speaker 10: at the cheapest places for school supplies.
25:38
Speaker 1: Shop at the most expensive ones.
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Speaker 5: I live in San Antonio, Texas.
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Speaker 10: I tried out her little tool that she created. at
25:43
Speaker 10: the AFT website. They call it Shop Smart. It's not
25:47
Speaker 10: very smart to filter out the least expensive options. But
25:52
Speaker 10: I plugged in San Antonio, Texas, put a 10-mile radius.
25:56
Speaker 10: Three results came up. It was all Macy's. So no Walmart,
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Speaker 10: no Target, no lower-cost options. And so it just strikes
26:04
Speaker 10: me as so out of touch for this elite millionaire
26:09
Speaker 10: who makes so much money off the backs of everyday teachers.
26:12
Speaker 10: I'm glad 16,000 teachers have left in the last year
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Speaker 10: to join the Teacher Freedom Alliance instead. We should defund
26:19
Speaker 10: Randy Weingarten, defund the power-hungry union bosses instead. and fund
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Speaker 10: the teachers instead. So let's fund teachers, not Randy. And
26:28
Speaker 10: we really should look into Randy Weingarten leveraging her union's
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Speaker 10: pension to bully Target. Like you said at the beginning, David,
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Speaker 10: this wasn't because Target came out in favor of immigration enforcement.
26:41
Speaker 10: It's because they didn't say anything at all, which that's
26:44
Speaker 10: what we would want the companies to do, to stay
26:46
Speaker 10: out of politics. But it's because they didn't come out
26:50
Speaker 10: and directly oppose immigration enforcement. So now- Look, they sent
26:54
Speaker 10: a couple of letters to Target executives, basically threatening them, saying, look,
26:59
Speaker 10: we own 6.79 million shares.
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Speaker 5: Of Target stock.
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Speaker 10: That's about 7% of the entire company owned by Randy
27:08
Speaker 10: Weingarten's AFT pension. for the union employees. What's crazy to
27:15
Speaker 10: me is she does all these rants on social media
27:18
Speaker 10: to stop shopping at Target lately for back to school.
27:22
Speaker 10: If you think about it for a second, if that's successful,
27:25
Speaker 10: if her own members stop shopping at Target, that's going
27:28
Speaker 10: to hurt themselves. They'd be shooting themselves in the foot
27:31
Speaker 10: in the long run. I'd argue that's a breach of
27:34
Speaker 10: fiduciary duty Like you mentioned, Congress is already looking into
27:38
Speaker 10: Randi Weingarten for wasting $ 1. 4 million, apparently, on her vanity project,
27:43
Speaker 10: her book calling conservatives fascist. The Department of Justice should
27:47
Speaker 10: open a parallel investigation about another breach of fiduciary duty,
27:52
Speaker 10: I would argue. Because the only investment decision should be
27:56
Speaker 10: about maximizing shareholder value, but she's weaponizing those pension funds
28:02
Speaker 10: for political purposes. That smells very fishy to me, and
28:06
Speaker 10: they need to look into Randy Weingarten and have her
28:09
Speaker 10: testify before Congress on that issue.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I agree with you. It's such a shame
28:15
Speaker 1: that public education has been weaponized in such a way
28:18
Speaker 1: that now all the money is going to teachers unions
28:21
Speaker 1: and political uh ideology versus actually educating the kids kids
28:24
Speaker 1: have never been worse off in public schools this is
28:27
Speaker 1: why school choice is so important and everywhere school choice
28:29
Speaker 1: is an available is available parents are choosing to remove
28:32
Speaker 1: their kids from these public schools it is such a
28:34
Speaker 1: disservice to a child um what they're doing and look
28:38
Speaker 1: people need to wake up to it which is why
28:40
Speaker 1: i love having you on why i love covering it
28:41
Speaker 1: cory keep up the great work keep up keep writing
28:43
Speaker 1: about it because it's all fantastic thank you so much
28:45
Speaker 1: for being here.
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Speaker 5: Thank you so much david great talking to you.
28:47
Speaker 1: Always Coming up, Nazi doctors on the CIA payroll, a
28:53
Speaker 1: villa outside Frankfurt, a German film crew called a torture house,
28:58
Speaker 1: and then the memo a chancellor buried in 1958. Journalist
29:02
Speaker 1: and podcaster Chrissy Newton is here to talk about how
29:05
Speaker 1: all this impacted MKUltra. Then, Jelly Roll spent years asking
29:10
Speaker 1: the country for grace about his own body. This week,
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Speaker 1: he went on Jimmy Kimmel and started smearing the president
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Speaker 1: about his weight. We have all that coming up.
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30:03
Speaker 1: The CIA drugged American citizens for 20 years. Then it
30:09
Speaker 1: buried the evidence. The program was called MKUltra, and it
30:15
Speaker 1: reportedly ran from 1953 to 1973, though a former CIA
30:21
Speaker 1: officer told Congress two months ago he doesn't believe the
30:26
Speaker 1: research ever stopped. LSD, electroshock, hypnosis, sensory deprivation, administered to prisoners,
30:33
Speaker 1: to psychiatric patients, to people who walked into a bar
30:37
Speaker 1: and never agreed to anything. The man who ran it
30:40
Speaker 1: was a chemist named Sidney Gottlieb, working from a theory.
30:44
Speaker 1: Before you can install a new mind in a new man,
30:48
Speaker 1: you have to destroy the one he came with. Now,
30:50
Speaker 1: here's how twisted this program was. San Francisco, 1954, an
30:54
Speaker 1: apartment on Chestnut Street. The agency offered prostitutes protection from
30:59
Speaker 1: arrest if they walked men in off North Beach, then
31:04
Speaker 1: they dosed them with drugs, watched them through a one-way
31:08
Speaker 1: or two-way mirror, whatever that mirror you look through. And
31:11
Speaker 1: that's just one story. This program, it went on for decades,
31:15
Speaker 1: and they did a whole lot worse things than this.
31:17
Speaker 1: November 1953, a CIA biochemist named Frank Olson, weapons researcher
31:23
Speaker 1: at Fort Derrick, he sits down at a work retreat
31:27
Speaker 1: in Maryland and drinks a glass of Cointreau. The agency
31:31
Speaker 1: had spiked the bottle with LSD, and nobody told him.
31:34
Speaker 1: Nine days later, Olson goes out a 13th floor window,
31:39
Speaker 1: It's in a hotel in New York. Now, this is
31:41
Speaker 1: at 2.30 in the morning. The doorman watched him come down.
31:45
Speaker 1: The CIA's own general counsel found a direct causal connection
31:49
Speaker 1: between the experiment and his death. They classified it, of course,
31:54
Speaker 1: and his family was told he died in the course
31:56
Speaker 1: of his work. 22 years went by before a presidential
31:58
Speaker 1: commission surfaced. President Ford apologized to the Olsens in the
32:02
Speaker 1: White House. The government paid them $ 750, 000. Family dug up
32:04
Speaker 1: the body in 94. The forensic examiner They hired, found
32:10
Speaker 1: a blow to the head. His sons have said since
32:13
Speaker 1: 2002 that their father was murdered. The agency's position is
32:17
Speaker 1: still that he jumped. 1973, on his way out the door,
32:21
Speaker 1: the director of the CIA ordered the files from MKUltra,
32:25
Speaker 1: destroyed Gottlieb's team, spent a day feeding 152 of them
32:30
Speaker 1: into a fire. And the number of Americans who died
32:34
Speaker 1: in that program is a number no one will really know.
32:38
Speaker 1: But there was a catch. They could only destroy the
32:40
Speaker 1: documents they had in America. And America wasn't the only
32:44
Speaker 1: country where this program was taking place. I think it's Oberussel, Germany,
32:48
Speaker 1: north of Frankfurt. The Nazis ran a transit camp there
32:51
Speaker 1: for captured ally pilots. Our army took it in 46,
32:54
Speaker 1: renamed it Camp King. and turned it into a site
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Speaker 1: for what the files call special interrogations, beatings, drug injections.
33:03
Speaker 1: And then by 1951, the agency buys a villa a
33:06
Speaker 1: few miles out in Kronberg, a house taken from a
33:10
Speaker 1: Jewish family in the 30s, and fits it out for
33:13
Speaker 1: teams flown in from Washington to work with nobody looking
33:17
Speaker 1: over their shoulder. A German documentary crew got there decades later,
33:21
Speaker 1: called it what it was, the CIA's torture house. Officers
33:24
Speaker 1: have written authorization to fly into occupied countries and ask
33:28
Speaker 1: local stations for expendables. Their word, people who would not
33:32
Speaker 1: be missed. The Surgeon General of the Nazi Army was
33:36
Speaker 1: on staff as a doctor at Camp King. The Nazi
33:38
Speaker 1: biological weapons chief came to work for the CIA, and
33:41
Speaker 1: the Germans were taking notes the whole time. 1958, German
33:46
Speaker 1: counterintelligence hands Chancellor Konrad Anduar a report. American officers are
33:52
Speaker 1: arresting people on German soil without telling German authorities, holding
33:56
Speaker 1: them for months, running interrogations that are illegal under German law.
34:00
Speaker 1: Politics buried it. Der Spiegel found the document decades later
34:04
Speaker 1: and published it. That memo is alive right now, sitting
34:06
Speaker 1: in an archive in a country we occupied. Two months ago,
34:10
Speaker 1: a House task force put a historian named Stephen Kinzer
34:14
Speaker 1: under oath and asked him how leadership of the Central
34:17
Speaker 1: Intelligence Agency could possibly not have known. Here's this.
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Speaker 8: Some information about MKUltra spilled out during the 1970s, but
34:25
Speaker 8: senior CIA officers had intentionally let Gottlieb operate without supervision.
34:31
Speaker 8: So they were able to claim that they knew nothing
34:34
Speaker 8: about his excesses. This was a way for the CIA
34:37
Speaker 8: to deny its institutional role in MKUltra and to portray
34:42
Speaker 8: it misleadingly as the product of one man's sadism or
34:47
Speaker 8: excessive zeal.
34:48
Speaker 1: Ana Paulina Luna, who chaired that hearing called what happened
34:51
Speaker 1: in 1973 obstruction of justice and criminal destruction of federal records,
34:55
Speaker 1: she also announced the CIA is declassifying documents it just
34:58
Speaker 1: found after a whistleblower testified that boxes were pulled out
35:02
Speaker 1: of the declassification pipeline. 53 years after the fire, they're
35:07
Speaker 1: still finding paper. Who knows how much more is out
35:10
Speaker 1: there and what we learn. Joining me now is Chrissy Newton,
35:14
Speaker 1: writer and podcaster for The Debrief and host of the
35:17
Speaker 1: rebelliously curious podcast. She's been laying out the German records
35:21
Speaker 1: on her social media page all week. Chrissy, welcome in studio.
35:27
Speaker 1: It's so great to meet you in person. You've been
35:29
Speaker 1: on the show a bunch talking about a lot of
35:31
Speaker 1: different things, usually UAPs. This MKUltra is something you've studied
35:34
Speaker 1: very closely. When I first learned about it, I didn't
35:38
Speaker 1: even understand it. I thought it was some kind of
35:40
Speaker 1: fringe conspiracy theory. Then I find out that the government
35:43
Speaker 1: has been involved in this drugging people mind control project
35:46
Speaker 1: for the better part of 70 years. Can you talk
35:49
Speaker 1: about how this is actually real and what they use
35:52
Speaker 1: this program for?
35:53
Speaker 11: It's great to be here in studio. First of all,
35:55
Speaker 11: just be in real life with you. But yeah, it's wild.
35:57
Speaker 11: This is not just a North American or an American issue.
36:01
Speaker 11: This is a global issue, really. And so this was
36:03
Speaker 11: going on for 20 years, starting in 1953, as you said.
36:07
Speaker 11: And there was multiple countries involved in this. The CIA
36:10
Speaker 11: was drugging, using LSD and different type of torture techniques
36:14
Speaker 11: to be able to potentially understand how to control somebody's mind.
36:17
Speaker 11: But there was a guidebook to this that was given
36:19
Speaker 11: out in Germany and many other countries in Asia. And
36:21
Speaker 11: so the question now today is maybe who are still
36:24
Speaker 11: actually using these tactics because maybe the guidelines haven't been
36:27
Speaker 11: updated since 1953 potentially or the 1970s. And now we're
36:33
Speaker 11: all the records. We might not be able to get
36:35
Speaker 11: them from the CIA, but we might be able to
36:37
Speaker 11: get them from McGill University in Canada. We might be
36:39
Speaker 11: able to get them from the German chancellor. So that's
36:42
Speaker 11: where we're at now.
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Speaker 3: So.
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Speaker 1: There's two parts to this. There's learning about the past,
36:48
Speaker 1: what the program did when it supposedly ran and ended.
36:51
Speaker 1: There's some people who suggest the program didn't end. So
36:54
Speaker 1: what did MKUltra turn into?
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Speaker 11: That's a hard question to answer. We don't know. And
37:01
Speaker 11: that's what we're wondering. And fortunately, right now we're talking
37:04
Speaker 11: about this. How long ago was that? 1953 to 1973.
37:09
Speaker 11: So the question now is those people that are potentially
37:13
Speaker 11: being tortured or in some form of mind control program,
37:16
Speaker 11: if it was still going on, we probably won't know
37:18
Speaker 11: for another 20 or 30 years. There are.
37:23
Speaker 11: Questions about jail institutes, private, federal, maybe around the world
37:28
Speaker 11: as well. But in Lexington, Kentucky, over seven North American,
37:33
Speaker 11: African American inmates were drugged with LSD for 77 days straight.
37:40
Speaker 11: So we know that that's a true outcome. That was
37:43
Speaker 11: an attachment to MKUltra. We see this, that it was
37:46
Speaker 11: happening in the jail system. So the question is, is
37:48
Speaker 11: that still happening within these jail systems or not? And
37:51
Speaker 11: it's scary to think that might be the case.
37:53
Speaker 1: So we know they drug people, and we know that
37:55
Speaker 1: the premise of it was to basically break their minds
37:57
Speaker 1: so they can be reprogrammed. Once they were reprogrammed, what
38:01
Speaker 1: did they do with them?
38:03
Speaker 11: Well, if you want to believe that Project Marnik, which
38:05
Speaker 11: you did speak to about, you know, they say a
38:08
Speaker 11: Manchurian candidate being able to use people within, if men, children,
38:13
Speaker 11: to be able to use them as a type of weapon.
38:16
Speaker 11: If you want to say that that possibly happened, there
38:18
Speaker 11: is real no evidence or full evidence to say that's possible.
38:22
Speaker 11: But people do suggest it has happened. People use it
38:25
Speaker 11: for counterintelligence. And if some of those people did become brainwashed,
38:29
Speaker 11: we would never probably speak to them ever. They would
38:31
Speaker 11: be stuck deep into programs and we would never, ever
38:34
Speaker 11: see them. More than likely, we wouldn't.
38:37
Speaker 1: So there's I mean, obviously, in order to if you
38:40
Speaker 1: break somebody's mind, reprogram them, you're going to use them
38:43
Speaker 1: for something. I mean, if it was just intelligence. You
38:46
Speaker 1: don't want to destroy somebody's mind to have them be
38:48
Speaker 1: a spy. You would probably need them to have their
38:51
Speaker 1: mind intact. You probably don't want people with LSD running
38:53
Speaker 1: around and being a spy. So to break them and
38:56
Speaker 1: then rebuild them and then set them out. And yes,
38:58
Speaker 1: there has been a lot of conspiracy theories. A lot
39:00
Speaker 1: of the biggest sort of assassinations and things have been
39:03
Speaker 1: some of these MKUltra people. But you're right. There is
39:07
Speaker 1: no definitive proof of that. But a lot of people
39:09
Speaker 1: are wondering if this program is going on for so
39:11
Speaker 1: long and if this program is still happening, what could
39:14
Speaker 1: folks do? I mean, have you heard from anybody in
39:17
Speaker 1: particular that were involved in the program, what they had
39:20
Speaker 1: them do or what they thought they were going to
39:22
Speaker 1: be used for? Were these just people that were drugged
39:23
Speaker 1: and set free? I mean, do we have anybody who
39:25
Speaker 1: said what they were asked to do after they were
39:28
Speaker 1: sort of reprogrammed?
39:30
Speaker 11: Well, there was one person that came forward, I believe,
39:33
Speaker 11: in a testimony saying that he worked, he was under
39:35
Speaker 11: Project Barnard, but that hasn't been fully examined and set
39:40
Speaker 11: to be true or not. So we're not 100% sure.
39:42
Speaker 11: But we know that outside of just looking at Americans
39:45
Speaker 11: or civilians, right, and drugging them and testing on them,
39:48
Speaker 11: which is hyper illegal and is horrible, the reason why
39:52
Speaker 11: they would be doing it for counterintelligence is looking at
39:54
Speaker 11: terrorists or other people and doing torture techniques to be
39:56
Speaker 11: able to potentially get truce out. We do see that
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Speaker 11: within Guantanamo Bay, you know, torture techniques were used and
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Speaker 11: some of the MKUltra tactics were used as well, specifically
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Speaker 11: on one person who is Now, in Guantanamo Bay still,
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Speaker 11: and he has been there since 9-11, and he has
40:16
Speaker 11: been deemed innocent, but he has been tortured, and it
40:19
Speaker 11: was MKUltra tactics that were used as well.
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Speaker 1: So it's like, what's that movie with... Katniss, and she
40:26
Speaker 1: goes and her boyfriend, what's the Mockingbird, what is that movie?
40:30
Speaker 11: Manchurian Candidate?
40:31
Speaker 1: No, no, no, there was Hunger Games.
40:33
Speaker 11: Hunger Games, yes.
40:34
Speaker 1: Everybody at home watching was like, Hunger Games, you moron.
40:37
Speaker 1: There was a scene in Hunger Games where the main
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Speaker 1: character's boyfriend was captured by the government, kind of had
40:43
Speaker 1: his brain scrambled, like MKUltra style, and then he was
40:46
Speaker 1: re-released basically to become like an assassin in the unit.
40:51
Speaker 1: So essentially it could be used for that. You can
40:52
Speaker 1: capture a terrorist, reprogramming them, then set them free, hostage exchange,
40:57
Speaker 1: and then you can let these folks go back with
40:59
Speaker 1: the Taliban or wherever they came from, and now you
41:01
Speaker 1: basically have somebody who's programmed to want to harm the
41:04
Speaker 1: people that they came from.
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Speaker 6: That's what this could be used for, essentially?
41:07
Speaker 11: Potentially, yeah, as an inside agent. But there is no
41:09
Speaker 11: evidence to 100% confirm that. But again, are you really
41:13
Speaker 11: going to be able to find those people around the
41:16
Speaker 11: world that are doing that, right? It would be utterly impossible.
41:19
Speaker 11: until we'll see if that was the case and that
41:22
Speaker 11: is happening. And if it is happening now, we'll find
41:24
Speaker 11: out from 20 to 30 years from now. But really,
41:27
Speaker 11: I think what is the most important to know is
41:29
Speaker 11: for people to understand that MKLTR was a real program.
41:32
Speaker 11: It was targeting civilians. And that's an issue. You can't
41:36
Speaker 11: have the government or anyone target civilians against their own rights.
41:40
Speaker 11: And if it's happening today, then that needs to be
41:43
Speaker 11: spoken about. It needs to be changed. And people that
41:46
Speaker 11: are victims need reparations. They need to be, you know,
41:49
Speaker 11: they were victims of horrible torture for over 20 years.
41:53
Speaker 11: You know, the Alan McMurray and Alan McMurray Institute in Montreal.
41:57
Speaker 11: There is a lawsuit that's currently happening right now where
42:00
Speaker 11: MKUltra victims are looking for reparations from the Canadian government
42:04
Speaker 11: and also from McGill University. And I hope they win.
42:08
Speaker 11: And right now we're going to see what happens. I
42:09
Speaker 11: think it's by next year we'll potentially find out. But
42:13
Speaker 11: these people, you know, were in being tortured for six
42:16
Speaker 11: months or longer, you know, and then ended up coming out.
42:18
Speaker 11: They had no memory whatsoever and they had to reprogram
42:22
Speaker 11: themselves to be back in society after all the torture
42:25
Speaker 11: that was done.
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, that's incredible. And look, transparency is the
42:28
Speaker 1: first step getting this out there. This is going on.
42:31
Speaker 1: Nobody else released it. Now it's being released.
42:34
Speaker 9: U.S.
42:34
Speaker 1: Congressional hearings are ongoing and we're going to find out
42:37
Speaker 1: exactly what happened and then we'll take it from there.
42:39
Speaker 1: But man, this is to learn about this and hear
42:41
Speaker 1: about it. It's just so science fictiony to find out
42:43
Speaker 1: that this really is just crazy. And I'm sure a
42:46
Speaker 1: lot of people are still in disbelief about it. Chrissy Newton,
42:48
Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here in person. And
42:50
Speaker 1: I'm sharing this with us.
42:52
Speaker 5: We'll do this again.
42:52
Speaker 1: There's way more that we need to learn about this program,
42:54
Speaker 1: so we'll definitely have to be back. I would love that.
42:57
Speaker 1: Thanks for being here. Coming up next, the tattooed outlaw
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Speaker 1: I'm going to be honest with you here for a second.
44:57
Speaker 1: Before this week, I'd never even heard of some dude
45:00
Speaker 1: named Jelly Roll. Have you heard of Jelly Roll? But
45:04
Speaker 1: apparently he stirred up some controversy because he decided to
45:07
Speaker 1: trash the people who helped build his career. Jelly Roll
45:12
Speaker 1: built an empire on a single promise that he was
45:15
Speaker 1: one of you, the tattooed outlaw who beat addiction in
45:18
Speaker 1: prison and found Jesus and swore he'd never forget the
45:21
Speaker 1: working people who filled his shows, the church pews, the
45:24
Speaker 1: recovery rooms. the country radio faithful who turned a broke
45:29
Speaker 1: ex-convict into one of the biggest names in American music. Now,
45:32
Speaker 1: this week, Hollywood slew him into the Jimmy Kimmel chair
45:37
Speaker 1: for a couple of nights, and Jelly Roll took that
45:41
Speaker 1: chair and turned the camera and used it to basically
45:45
Speaker 1: spit on President Trump and the people that got Donald
45:48
Speaker 1: Trump elected.
45:48
Speaker 8: Now.
45:50
Speaker 1: He opened his monologue while he was filling in with
45:52
Speaker 1: a string of jokes aimed at Donald Trump, mocking the
45:55
Speaker 1: president's weight, seriously, calling him a fat pig and an
45:59
Speaker 1: ozempic enthusiast and a complete fraud, rolling a montage to
46:04
Speaker 1: twist the knife. And when his own fans, the people
46:06
Speaker 1: who made him rich, told him that they didn't really
46:09
Speaker 1: like what he had to say, he didn't walk it back.
46:12
Speaker 1: He came right back out the next day and did
46:14
Speaker 1: the whole thing over again. Look.
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Speaker 13: Some folks online were upset that I didn't treat the
46:19
Speaker 13: president with reverence and dignity. But I want to remind
46:23
Speaker 13: y'all that I go by the name Jelly Roll. I
46:27
Speaker 13: don't even treat myself with reverence and dignity.
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Speaker 1: Hey, he doesn't treat himself with reverence and dignity. Cute.
46:34
Speaker 1: But that's not humility. That's a man laughing in the
46:37
Speaker 1: faces of the people who bought every ticket, every album,
46:40
Speaker 1: every hoodie. They handed him grace when the rest of
46:43
Speaker 1: the world had written him off. And now, here's the thing.
46:46
Speaker 1: And the first time Hollywood offered him this bigger table,
46:50
Speaker 1: he sat at it and used it as an opportunity
46:52
Speaker 1: to immediately mock the people who gave him that opportunity.
46:56
Speaker 1: And you know what? Those fans are pretty upset. They
46:57
Speaker 1: called him a traitor, a sellout, a guy who's lost
47:00
Speaker 1: 300 pounds in his backbone along with it. Boycotts are
47:03
Speaker 1: lighting up overnight. And it's worse than a cheap political shot.
47:07
Speaker 1: Jelly Roll spent years in interviews on stages and swore
47:10
Speaker 1: testimony before the United States Congress, begging the world for
47:12
Speaker 1: compassion about his own body, his addiction, his own weight.
47:16
Speaker 1: He lost over 100 pounds and turned it into a
47:18
Speaker 1: testimony of grace and second chances. And then he stood
47:21
Speaker 1: on that Hollywood stage and hurled the oldest, laziest fat
47:24
Speaker 1: joke in the book at another man. The guy who
47:26
Speaker 1: pleads for grace for himself had exactly none of it
47:29
Speaker 1: for the other guy. Now, in fairness, Jelly Roll never
47:32
Speaker 1: claimed to be a conservative. He's always said he's not political.
47:35
Speaker 1: So this isn't some grand betrayal, really, of a cause.
47:38
Speaker 1: It's something different, sadder. And really, it's an outlaw who
47:44
Speaker 1: built his empire on a brand standing outside the Hollywood
47:46
Speaker 1: machine and then walks straight into it and then becomes it.
47:50
Speaker 1: On a week that we lost Dolly Parton, you look
47:53
Speaker 1: at somebody like Jelly Roll and you wish we had
47:55
Speaker 1: more Dollys. Joining me now with reaction, because it's fired
47:59
Speaker 1: up Friday, is Chad Caton, Operation Free Nation founder and
48:04
Speaker 1: my good friend. Chad, welcome back to David Pollak Prime Time.
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Speaker 1: Here's what pisses me off about Jelly Roll. He can
48:09
Speaker 1: say whatever he wants. But the idea is when you're
48:11
Speaker 1: trying to sell country music and you're cool with Trump
48:13
Speaker 1: and you're getting all those fans together, and then the
48:16
Speaker 1: second the room changes the table setting, he's like, yep,
48:19
Speaker 1: screw Trump and screw all those people. I mean, how disingenuous,
48:22
Speaker 1: and it really speaks to a bigger symptom of these
48:24
Speaker 1: MAGA grifter folks who really rise to fame using the
48:28
Speaker 1: conservative movement and using the MAGA movement, but then it
48:30
Speaker 1: shows you how little they actually care, right?
48:34
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's evident that he doesn't care a flip.
48:36
Speaker 14: And, you know, country music is pretty synonymous with conservative values, right?
48:41
Speaker 5: We like to talk about the American flag. We like
48:43
Speaker 5: to talk about our troops. We like to talk about.
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Speaker 14: You know, the 4th of July, some horses, maybe some
48:47
Speaker 14: beer drinking. And here you have Jelly.
48:50
Speaker 5: Roll, who is a pastry.
48:52
Speaker 14: And it's like the ugly chick at high school. And
48:55
Speaker 14: then you see her at the reunion and she's really,
48:57
Speaker 14: really hot. And now she's very mean.
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Speaker 5: That's kind of what happened. The guy oseptic himself into
49:03
Speaker 5: a mean girl.
49:04
Speaker 14: And at the end of the day, we saw a
49:06
Speaker 14: video of him kissing President Trump's proverbial behind.
49:12
Speaker 5: And at one point.
49:13
Speaker 14: But see, what I think actually happened is we have
49:16
Speaker 14: a very midget, a small thinking man that walked into
49:20
Speaker 14: Jimmy Kimmel, the writers, which was evident, wrote him a
49:24
Speaker 14: monologue that he didn't say no to because he in
49:26
Speaker 14: fact did lose that spine with the 300 pounds of jelly.
49:30
Speaker 14: So all that being said, I think we found ourselves
49:33
Speaker 14: with a weak man that turned into a mean girl.
49:38
Speaker 1: And it's a good way to look at it. Maybe
49:39
Speaker 1: the Ozempic also 808 his brain a little bit. I
49:42
Speaker 1: don't know. But at the end of the day, this
49:44
Speaker 1: is the bigger problem, right? You have all these people
49:46
Speaker 1: who use a movement, a movement that is a really
49:49
Speaker 1: important movement. They use it to get fame, and then
49:51
Speaker 1: they show their really disdain I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.
49:54
Speaker 1: IT'S A GREAT IDEA FOR THE COUNTRY. AND IT'S NOT
49:55
Speaker 1: JUST JELLY ROLL, BY THE WAY. NASHVILLE HAS BECOME WOKE.
49:57
Speaker 1: IT'S NO SECRET ANYMORE THAT A LOT OF RECORDING ARTISTS
49:59
Speaker 1: IN NASHVILLE ARE WOKE, AND YET THEY SELL MUSIC TO
50:02
Speaker 1: PEOPLE THAT THEY COMPLETELY DISAGREE WITH IDEOLOGICALLY, BUT YET THE
50:06
Speaker 1: PEOPLE HAVE NO IDEA. AND I THINK THE MORE THAT
50:09
Speaker 1: THESE because she never engaged in politics. She says, I'm
50:14
Speaker 1: staying out of it. You don't listen to me for politics.
50:16
Speaker 1: You listen to me for music. And now all these
50:18
Speaker 1: artists have decided that being out as a conservative is
50:22
Speaker 1: something that ends their career, but being out as somebody
50:24
Speaker 1: who disrespects conservatives, somehow that's good for their career. I
50:27
Speaker 1: think it's up to us in MAGA to put our
50:30
Speaker 1: money where our mouth is and stop giving money to
50:32
Speaker 1: these people that hate us, right?
50:34
Speaker 5: Well, that's a good thing about Go Woke, Go Broke.
50:36
Speaker 14: And Jelly Roll had himself a voluptuous female blonde that
50:40
Speaker 14: was married to him. And she's very much out there
50:43
Speaker 14: talking about how she made him. And everybody looked at
50:45
Speaker 14: her like, what in the wide world of sports were
50:46
Speaker 14: you thinking when you got with this fella?
50:49
Speaker 5: She's a pretty lady.
50:51
Speaker 14: But he has since divorced her, got skinny, turned into
50:55
Speaker 14: a mean girl, told Trump.
50:56
Speaker 5: Where to go.
50:57
Speaker 14: And basically told the American patriot and the country music Americans.
51:02
Speaker 5: That if you don't like it, you don't have to
51:04
Speaker 5: listen to his music. Well, you know what, Jelly Roll?
51:07
Speaker 5: I'm all for it.
51:08
Speaker 14: I will never listen to your music because I don't
51:10
Speaker 14: even know who the flip you are other than a
51:11
Speaker 14: fat guy that keeps going out there trying to rap
51:13
Speaker 14: and say he's a country music artist.
51:15
Speaker 5: Frankly, I don't give a flip.
51:16
Speaker 14: I'm a whole bigger kind of guy to, you know,
51:18
Speaker 14: give me some Waylon Jennings and those boys.
51:21
Speaker 5: That's country music.
51:22
Speaker 14: So at the end of the day, here we have
51:24
Speaker 14: in spending time talking about somebody that's doing nothing to
51:27
Speaker 14: the movement, but falling in line with Hollywood, Jimmy Kimmel,
51:30
Speaker 14: and the rest of the triggered little, uh, uh, trans
51:34
Speaker 14: people i don't i don't.
51:35
Speaker 5: Know how to put it it's just people for.
51:38
Speaker 14: Who they are and frankly i like looking at this
51:40
Speaker 14: when i'm tired of worrying about real politics and looking
51:43
Speaker 14: back and laughing going damn if we would have just
51:45
Speaker 14: got it together during vietnam instead of letting all those
51:47
Speaker 14: hippie become teachers we would have been okay.
51:50
Speaker 1: Listen, yeah, maybe the left is Jelly Roll's rebound, and
51:54
Speaker 1: he'll come back to the right after that rebound relationship
51:57
Speaker 1: backfires on him. Chad Caton, I love how fired you
52:01
Speaker 1: are every Friday, and I really appreciate you being here,
52:03
Speaker 1: my brother.
52:04
Speaker 5: Don't Dixie Chick my country. Hoorah.
52:07
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