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A Near Miss in New York City · The M&M Experience

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  Speaker 1: I have a theme going today, Mike, Okay, stuff, you
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  Speaker 1: could not record today. It is Mickey Gilly's birthday, and
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  Speaker 1: I just did the girls all get prettier at closing time,
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  Speaker 1: which is wow? Okay, and there of course, now this
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  Speaker 1: is kind of funny, very sympathetic thought. I mean, you
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  Speaker 1: know what, the full name of that record is Paul
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  Speaker 1: Revere and the Raiders Indian Reservation parentheses the lament of
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  Speaker 1: the Cherokee Reservation Indian. Why would that be such a
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  Speaker 1: problem since it certainly seems empathetic because there's not a
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  Speaker 1: soul from the songwriter to Paul Revere and the Raiders,
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  Speaker 1: not a soul who's an Indian there, So it's probably
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  Speaker 1: cultural appropriation. But Mark Lindsay in front of that band
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  Speaker 1: with great Paul Revere and the Raiders were great. He's
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  Speaker 1: eighty four.
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  Speaker 2: There you go. You can't say Indian, did you hear?
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  Speaker 2: I hear you say Indian? You can't say Indian? You
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  Speaker 2: native American?
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  Speaker 1: Native American, Mike, Mike, I'm a Native American, and so
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  Speaker 1: are you.
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  Speaker 2: I remember I remember once when my Denise called called
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  Speaker 2: the nail Lady Oriental. I said, honey, oh honey, I
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  Speaker 2: say Oriental. What's wrong with you? You're gonna get what
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  Speaker 2: it's funny?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what is wrong with is it just kind
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  Speaker 1: of it's I can see where it's kind of archaic.
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  Speaker 1: We don't refer to over there as the Orient anymore.
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  Speaker 1: It feels very nineteen fifties. We still with orient Express.
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  Speaker 1: Does that still exists? That train ride still exists?
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  Speaker 2: I don't have you seen the clips around of all
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  Speaker 2: in the family and Archie Bunker played by the great
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  Speaker 2: Carol O'Connor somebody. There was one that went viral last
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  Speaker 2: week over the military action in Iran and Israel's role
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  Speaker 2: in all of that. And he's telling Meathead, the late
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  Speaker 2: Rob Reiner, about what happens when you mess with the Jews.
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  Speaker 2: He goes, if you mess with the Jews, it's actually
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  Speaker 2: very funny, he says. Now, look, you know, if you're Italian,
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  Speaker 2: you go running off there, you know, to the Christopher
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  Speaker 2: Columbus Society goes. If you can't get the bus fair,
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  Speaker 2: then you go over to see Frank Sinatra at the restaurant.
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  Speaker 2: He goes, if you're black, you go to the NCAA APPPPP.
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  Speaker 2: You know that's what he butchered. All that he goes,
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  Speaker 2: But if you're Jewish, you mess with the Jews, oh boy,
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  Speaker 2: he goes, they will come at you ten ways from Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: You don't mess with the Jews. It was just so
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  Speaker 2: fit that show wouldn't survive in twenty twenties.
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  Speaker 1: There our usage that Archie threw out that you simply
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  Speaker 1: that we And how is it that fifty ish years later,
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  Speaker 1: more than fifty years later, we are more buttoned up,
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  Speaker 1: more fragile, more triggerable because I use all of the family.
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  Speaker 1: That's kind of funny. You were eleven when it debuted
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  Speaker 1: and I was fourteen. I remember, do you you eventually
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  Speaker 1: did you eventually wander into a habit of watching that
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  Speaker 1: when it was actually on watching it all the time
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  Speaker 1: with my mom. I remember, yeah, of course, just a masterpiece.
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  Speaker 1: And I use it all the time because just six
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  Speaker 1: seven years after the Civil Rights Act passed, just three
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  Speaker 1: years after doctor King is killed, and we clearly in
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  Speaker 1: the sixties were a country that had a lot of
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  Speaker 1: racial progress to make just a hiccup of time later
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  Speaker 1: nineteen seventy one, bigotry and prejudice were something you made
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  Speaker 1: fun of, and a lot of people go, yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: you didn't hate Archie Bunker. He was still lovable. Well
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  Speaker 1: that that's kind of exactly the point. But it was like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, look at that crazy guy with those crazy views.
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  Speaker 1: Bigotry and prejudice were something that became the stuff of comedy,
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  Speaker 1: which is the way that a society sort of shows
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  Speaker 1: that it's being ushered into a into a cave.
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  Speaker 2: And there was an acceptance of of satire and comedy
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  Speaker 2: and even edgy comedy. I don't remember, and I don't
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  Speaker 2: think there was huge pushback against the show. I could
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  Speaker 2: be wrong, because it was right when I was younger,
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  Speaker 2: it was beloved. I mean it was, first of all,
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  Speaker 2: was the highest rated show of its time, and it
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  Speaker 2: was a beloved shitcom. Today, you know, there'd be so
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  Speaker 2: many people triggered and so many people who are offended,
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  Speaker 2: So it would it's and you're right, we've gone in
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  Speaker 2: the wrong direction. Now it feels like the Trump era
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  Speaker 2: has started to self correct that maybe just maybe we
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  Speaker 2: know in the other direction. But when you talk about bigotry,
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  Speaker 2: the media coverage of something that happened in New York
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  Speaker 2: City is so astounding. Where these two apparently isis inspired
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  Speaker 2: young men through IEDs lit them right in front of everybody.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the video is everywhere. You can see it
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  Speaker 2: everywhere on social media and all on the news. They
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  Speaker 2: lit these IED's and they were throwing them at anti
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  Speaker 2: Islam protesters who have been described as white supremacists. Jake somebody.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know who the guy is. You know who
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  Speaker 2: the guy is that was Is it Jake Shields? I
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  Speaker 2: think his name is. Anyway, he's led he's setting up
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  Speaker 2: a protest outside Gracie mansion, so which is where where
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  Speaker 2: the maryor lives. And these two they are bona fide
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  Speaker 2: IEDs with a particular kind of material in it that
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  Speaker 2: have been used in other terrorist attacks, including the shoe
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  Speaker 2: bomber Richard Reid in that airplane. Anyway, the media coverage
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  Speaker 2: was inferring that it was the anti Islam white you know,
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  Speaker 2: supposed nationalist protesters who threw the bombs, and the whole
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  Speaker 2: media coverage was slanted. But along comes zo Ron Mamdani
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  Speaker 2: and he puts out a statement condemning the attacks, and
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't say anything about he never uses the word terrorism.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, these guys were yelled literally saying alua akbar
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  Speaker 2: as they were detonating the and thank goodness, the fuses
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  Speaker 2: didn't work, or tons of people could have been killed.
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  Speaker 2: And yet to the left, it was the white protesters
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  Speaker 2: who are the problem. They're the ones that caused it,
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  Speaker 2: not the two would be terrorists or I shouldn't they
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  Speaker 2: would be. I guess they are terrorists, actual terrorists. So
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  Speaker 2: everything is upside down in mom Donnie's world and in
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  Speaker 2: the city of New York, and I boy, I worry
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  Speaker 2: about my family, my friends who live there, because it's
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  Speaker 2: a different era now it is a whole week.
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  Speaker 1: We talked about as in the home stretch to that
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  Speaker 1: that election, we wondered how long it would take him
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  Speaker 1: to destroy New York. I said, look, it's not gonna
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  Speaker 1: happen in six weeks. It's not gonna happen in six months.
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  Speaker 1: It's just different. It's a different feel. Criminals are empowered.
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna get more weed, You're gonna get more misbehavior,
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna get fewer people incarcerated, and in a slow
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  Speaker 1: kind of burn. I hope that's only a metaphor. The
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  Speaker 1: city will simply feel different.
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  Speaker 2: Will Jake Lang is his name, by the way, He's
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  Speaker 2: described as a far right influencer. It was an anti
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  Speaker 2: Muslim rally led by a guy who is described as
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  Speaker 2: a January sixth rioter. All right, all right, can we
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  Speaker 2: let's let's let's dive into something you and I talked
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  Speaker 2: a little bit about. Over the weekend. There was the
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  Speaker 2: very solemn dignified Transfer ceremony for the six US soldiers
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  Speaker 2: killed in the current conflict in the Middle East. President
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  Speaker 2: Trump's appearance has been described by the left leading media
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  Speaker 2: as widely criticized because he was wearing his white USA
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  Speaker 2: baseball cap and he kept the cap on as the
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  Speaker 2: bodies were brought by.
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  Speaker 1: Out of the back of the plane. We've all seen
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  Speaker 1: this at Dover Air Force Base. It's very solemn. It's called,
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  Speaker 1: as you said, the dignified transfer. We've seen it at a
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  Speaker 1: lot of wars, a lot of presidents there forming a line.
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  Speaker 1: Trump is there in Millennia. Jd Vance and Usha were
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  Speaker 1: there and the President, as you said, was wearing a
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  Speaker 1: white cap that said.
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  Speaker 2: Daily Beast describes it as he made a bold accessory
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  Speaker 2: choice headline, Trump finds jaw dropping way to disrespect his
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  Speaker 2: own war dead.
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  Speaker 1: All right, fart, okay, I will It'll be a story
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  Speaker 1: of a journey I found myself. It's a short journey
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  Speaker 1: won't take but a minute. And then I want to
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  Speaker 1: hear about your journey if you've had one, because I
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  Speaker 1: have a feeling that both of us started thinking, oh lord,
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  Speaker 1: because what's one of my what's my first index card?
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  Speaker 1: Don't give the other side something to beat your brains
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  Speaker 1: in with? Right? And that still stands. And I found
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  Speaker 1: myself thinking, oh, sir, uh, could you not? And I
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  Speaker 1: thought that for about a minute. It will remain my
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  Speaker 1: favorite thing for everybody to be hats off for the
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  Speaker 1: dignified transfer. Okay, but the notion that this president, whose
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  Speaker 1: reverence for our military is so clear, whose enthusiasm within
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  Speaker 1: the military is sky high, whose respect for our fallen
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  Speaker 1: is beyond doubt, to nitpick and hand ring about a
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  Speaker 1: stupid hat is a road I will not go down.
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  Speaker 1: And you, I mean that's fair. That that strikes me.
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  Speaker 2: It's two sep That sounds like two step, sounds like
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  Speaker 2: two separate issues to me. I mean, on the one hand,
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  Speaker 2: his his respect and his reverence for the military is unquestioned,
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  Speaker 2: there's no doubt about it. It still goes back to
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  Speaker 2: is it is it all that great an idea? I
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  Speaker 2: remember when I first saw the video of him getting
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  Speaker 2: out of the motorcade. He had the hat in his hand.
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  Speaker 2: I thought, oh gosh, is he gonna wear a baseball hat?
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  Speaker 2: And and he did, and then I started. Then there
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  Speaker 2: were some things on social media about the commander in
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  Speaker 2: chief because if you notice the members of the military,
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  Speaker 2: they've got their their part of their uniform is the hat,
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  Speaker 2: and they got those on. They didn't take them off.
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  Speaker 1: But that is the uniform. And there they were following etiquette,
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  Speaker 1: and they were following you know, decor.
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  Speaker 2: And a and a baseball cap is kind of his uniform,
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  Speaker 2: you know. I mean, so it's we might be trying
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  Speaker 2: to bend over it. Let me share a personal story
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  Speaker 2: that that really resonated with me. I mean, let me
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  Speaker 2: tell you what. No, no, let me answer from you first.
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  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't have an answer. It's not favorite thing.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, but I'm with you. But I'm with you
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  Speaker 2: because it just it detracts from his complete loyalty to
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  Speaker 2: the military and his deep respect. Again, the two things
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  Speaker 2: can be true at the same time. That's true.
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  Speaker 1: We know level of concern your a level of concern
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  Speaker 1: about the hat on zero to ten. Mine is about
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  Speaker 1: a zero point five because the more I've found people
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  Speaker 1: overreacting to it. It's everybody that hates him. I almost
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  Speaker 1: feel like you. It's almost role reversal Monday, where I
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  Speaker 1: could hear you if I were to get all exercised
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  Speaker 1: about this. Here you saying, don't don't do it, Mark, don't,
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  Speaker 1: don't play into that, don't play into the game. So
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  Speaker 1: I make the same request of you.
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  Speaker 2: I get that it's about a two for me. It's not.
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  Speaker 2: It's not a zero point five. It wasn't my favorite thing.
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  Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean that I don't And I sure
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  Speaker 2: the guy. I don't hate the guy. I have got
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  Speaker 2: deep respect and appreciation for him. Uh. He he does
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  Speaker 2: what he does. He's his own guy. I mean, he's
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  Speaker 2: he is a Look, let's face it, he is a
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  Speaker 2: quirky son of a gun. Uh And and there's not
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  Speaker 2: a whole lot of them American presidents who are going
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  Speaker 2: to pop on and rock a white baseball cap at
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  Speaker 2: a dignified transfer ceremony. And you know it, and I
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  Speaker 2: know it. So but that's who he is, and it's
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  Speaker 2: part of the era we're in. And you're right, you
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  Speaker 2: got to be careful not to get sucked into it.
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  Speaker 2: A number of years ago, I went to North Texas
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  Speaker 2: for a funeral and it was a heartbreaking funeral. And
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  Speaker 2: people who know me and know you and know where
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  Speaker 2: I'm from, and Keller and South Lake and all that
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  Speaker 2: know what funeral I went to. It was the daughter
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  Speaker 2: of a dear friend of mine, dear friends of mine,
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  Speaker 2: who died of an overdose. And it was a heartbreaking,
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  Speaker 2: heartbreaking thing. And I flew in with my kids from
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  Speaker 2: I was in I think it was in New York
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  Speaker 2: at the time. And I decided because of this special
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  Speaker 2: young woman who died. She was a very quirky, neat,
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  Speaker 2: wonderful young woman and she loved my Denise, and Denise
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  Speaker 2: loved her. They had kind of a special bond. And
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  Speaker 2: course by then Denise had passed. And so I go
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  Speaker 2: into this funeral and I have the boneheaded idea that
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to go to this funeral at the church
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  Speaker 2: dressed cat usually. And I did it for her because
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  Speaker 2: she was that kind of She was a jeans and
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  Speaker 2: sweatshirt kind of a girl. And I thought, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what I was thinking, and Mark.
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  Speaker 1: I wore like a how casually are we.
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  Speaker 2: Sweater and jeans sweater and jeans. It was very casual.
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  Speaker 2: I dressed down. I walked into the church to see
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  Speaker 2: my dear friend, who was of course grief stricken and
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  Speaker 2: heartbroken and glad to see me. Everybody in the church
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  Speaker 2: had a suit and tie on. The I was the
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  Speaker 2: only Oh, no, I was it. I was like, I
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  Speaker 2: was like it the when you'd have the Halloween costume party,
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  Speaker 2: only it's not a costume party, but you think it is.
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  Speaker 2: I was so mortified, and to this day, I've always
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  Speaker 2: felt like, I hope the family didn't feel that I
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  Speaker 2: was disrespecting her. I was doing it because of my
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  Speaker 2: love and admiration for her, and I thought it would
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  Speaker 2: it was what she would want. So look, it might
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  Speaker 2: have been a similar moment for Trump. He thought, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: I've got the USA cap in the car, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: pop it on. I'm gonna wear it. And maybe maybe
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  Speaker 2: not the greatest move, because trust me, the day that
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  Speaker 2: I wore jeans and sweat and a sweater to her funeral,
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  Speaker 2: oh one of my biggest goof ups ever in my
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  Speaker 2: little life.
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  Speaker 1: You know what the commons The common thread though, is intent.
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  Speaker 1: It's what it's always what is sincerely in your heart,
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  Speaker 1: not only did Trump intend no disrespect, it was the
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  Speaker 1: ultimate of respect to wear the USA cap yours was
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  Speaker 1: a show of specific, targeted deference to the young lady.
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  Speaker 1: That having been said, her funeral decorum is funeral decorum.
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  Speaker 2: I know, I know. Oh it was a bad move,
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  Speaker 2: was taking it Once again, I can say I'm Trump's doppelganger.
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  Speaker 2: We both like Big Max, we like diet cokes, and
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  Speaker 2: sometimes we have minor wardrobe malfunctions, but we.
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  Speaker 1: Love it and we love you, and we love you
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  Speaker 1: both anyway. Boom, love you too, all right, Happy day,
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  Speaker 1: Mike Gallagher, Ready to go to and o'clock right here
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  Speaker 1: on six sixty am.
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  Speaker 2: The answer