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The Unwritten Rules of a Relationship: “Princess Treatment” Vs. “Bare Minimum” · I Do, Part 2

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  Speaker 1: Hey, that folks, it is Friday, May eighth. What does
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  Speaker 1: it mean to treat a lady like a princess? Well,
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  Speaker 1: you're going to get a very different answer if you
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  Speaker 1: ask men, then if you ask women. And with that, Robes,
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  Speaker 1: I will ask you. And as I say, well, don't
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  Speaker 1: everybody to this episode of Amy and TJ. Robes has
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  Speaker 1: been holding this from me and I'm not sure exactly
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  Speaker 1: what direction, uh this is going to go?
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  Speaker 2: Well, this is actually so interesting. Our producer Sam Overtihart
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  Speaker 2: sent an article to us about the title was eleven
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  Speaker 2: things men see as princess treatment versus what women see
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  Speaker 2: as the bear minimum. And so I went and I
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  Speaker 2: looked at what these eleven things are and I laughed
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  Speaker 2: because apparently I'm a princess because you pretty much do
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  Speaker 2: every single one of these things.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, you're a princess in a guy's eyes, in your eyes,
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  Speaker 1: you're just normal to a woman because these are the
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  Speaker 1: bare minimum.
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  Speaker 2: And perhaps this is one of the many reasons is
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  Speaker 2: why I love you so much, because I have never
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  Speaker 2: this is a true statement, I have never been in
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  Speaker 2: a relationship or even dated someone casually who's done all
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  Speaker 2: of these things the way you do, so you are
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  Speaker 2: an exception. And it's interesting because this whole concept and
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  Speaker 2: this whole discussion arose from a TikTok video from last year. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: so a woman, she was thirty seven years old. Her
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  Speaker 2: name was Courtney Palmer. The New York Times did a
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  Speaker 2: big article on this. She went on a video that
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  Speaker 2: garnered millions and millions of views and lots of reactions,
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  Speaker 2: saying that she is a princess, that she gets prince's
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  Speaker 2: treatment from her relationship. And she says, this was her quote,
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  Speaker 2: the kind of set people off. If I'm at a
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  Speaker 2: restaurant with my husband, I do not talk to the hostess,
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  Speaker 2: I do not open any doors, and I do not
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  Speaker 2: order my own food. And basically just went on to
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  Speaker 2: talk about that her husband treats her like a princess. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: so then she started listening to all the things he says.
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  Speaker 1: I think she's not using that word right, she means
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  Speaker 1: captive or.
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, but she likes it.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, some people did talk about like, I'm sorry, they're like,
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  Speaker 2: instead of progression, they were doing hashtag regression. But she
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  Speaker 2: also went on to say, and it prompted a lot
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  Speaker 2: of women, So there became this viral trend.
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  Speaker 3: It's still going on now.
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  Speaker 2: You see a husband sitting in a chair a lot
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  Speaker 2: of times by a pool, but outside somewhere outside, and
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  Speaker 2: the woman has a garden hose with a spray hose
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  Speaker 2: attached to it, okay, and she starts listing like things
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  Speaker 2: that she thinks he should do for her, and he
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  Speaker 2: either says bare minimum or princess treatment.
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  Speaker 3: If he says princess treatment, she squirts him with the hose.
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  Speaker 2: It's actually really funny, and the guys are going along
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  Speaker 2: with it, but they're being honest about what they think
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  Speaker 2: is too much to ask for. Wow, in a relationship,
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  Speaker 2: it's actually really really funny.
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  Speaker 3: Do you want to check out the tic? There are
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  Speaker 3: a lot of videos. I was laughing, You're like, what
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  Speaker 3: are you watching?
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  Speaker 1: What's the different thing with the hose? If it's princess treatment.
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  Speaker 2: If he says princess treatment, you scored him with the hosts.
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  Speaker 2: Why because he's wrong, because it's the bare minimum? And
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  Speaker 2: this way at least the question though, like whatever the
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  Speaker 2: woman thinks she deserves, like whatever she thinks the I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's been from paying for my nails and hair to
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  Speaker 2: you know, when you go to the store picking up
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  Speaker 2: a little something. You know, I'll like, you know, if
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  Speaker 2: he thinks that's Prince's treatment or bare minimum. But the
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  Speaker 2: different things that she expects him to do, and they
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  Speaker 2: don't know what she's going to ask. It's really funny.
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  Speaker 2: But this article kind of consolidated the top eleven things
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  Speaker 2: that most women consider bare minimum, and it's not every
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  Speaker 2: woman's yes. And look, I think based on your age
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  Speaker 2: and your experience and where you live in the country,
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  Speaker 2: you might feel differently about some of these things.
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  Speaker 3: But I agree with all of them.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, this is hilarious.
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  Speaker 2: So the number one thing that they did, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if it's in any order, it's just number one
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  Speaker 2: opening her car door.
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  Speaker 1: So wait, this is Princess Street.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody, No, no, babe, I'm telling you you are the first
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  Speaker 2: man other than my father who has consistently, repeatedly and
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  Speaker 2: by the way, never once missed opening my car door.
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  Speaker 2: I have told you about previous relationships where I've been
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  Speaker 2: told you think you're a feminist, then you need to
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  Speaker 2: go ahead and do things for yourself. So as long
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  Speaker 2: as you have that mindset, I'm not opening a doorway.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, we have me one second? Are we This list
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  Speaker 1: is of things that guys actually think is princesstre correct.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I knew you would like this because you actually
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  Speaker 2: are on the minimum. Would you say that that is
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  Speaker 2: bare minimum?
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  Speaker 1: You can't get barer minimum than that. The day that
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  Speaker 1: that is you just I've just broken up with people
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  Speaker 1: still get the damn door for them. No, it doesn't matter,
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  Speaker 1: it's the door.
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  Speaker 2: And the funny thing is in this article it actually
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  Speaker 2: states exactly what I have been told by other men.
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  Speaker 2: Some men claim that since women want to be so independent,
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  Speaker 2: they should do things for themselves.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Is there some segment of the population of women
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  Speaker 1: who don't want you to open the door.
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  Speaker 2: Probably, But I think always offering to or doing it
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  Speaker 2: like obviously, if someone tells you I can do it
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  Speaker 2: by myself, I don't want you to do it anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Then you respect what she wants. This is fascinating most women.
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  Speaker 2: I think the depreciation car door we are walking towards
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  Speaker 2: a vehicle. You go to anyone other than my father.
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  Speaker 1: That is absolute insanity.
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  Speaker 3: And my father does it for my mother every time.
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  Speaker 1: That's okay, people raise differently. It shouldn't get too harsh
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  Speaker 1: on anybody else who doesn't do it.
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  Speaker 3: But my god, yep, all right, number two this.
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  Speaker 1: I'm scared to get through this list now.
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  Speaker 3: Number two.
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  Speaker 2: You don't do this one as often, but you absolutely
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  Speaker 2: have planning dates. That for a lot of women is
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  Speaker 2: a huge complaint that men do not take the time
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  Speaker 2: to plan dates and they basically expect the woman to
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  Speaker 2: kind of create the social calendar. And it is something
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  Speaker 2: that's considered chivalrous. I mean, as a woman to have
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  Speaker 2: a man say I have planned when you made reservations recently,
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  Speaker 2: that was so amazing, Like, we love it. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know that I consider that the bare minimum. But I
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  Speaker 2: also don't think it's princess treatment. I think it's lovely
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  Speaker 2: and as wonderful as often as it can happen.
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  Speaker 1: It's you know, if any fellows are listening, and if
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  Speaker 1: anybody wants to pass this along to their fella, this
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  Speaker 1: is one you would put in the category of an
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  Speaker 1: easy win, right. It goes a long way, it does,
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  Speaker 1: and it doesn't take you a lot of effort to
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  Speaker 1: do so. But yeah, I have you and I have
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  Speaker 1: such a we're together all the damn time, but we
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  Speaker 1: have such a routine where we look over again we
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  Speaker 1: know exactly where we're going on certain days at certain times. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: even so, yes I will plan more. But you did
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  Speaker 1: light up the last You had no idea some stuff's
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  Speaker 1: coming and it wasn't a big deal.
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  Speaker 2: It's just oh, making a reservation is like you will
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  Speaker 2: win points forever.
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  Speaker 3: For doing that, all right? Number three getting her gas?
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean? Getting her gas like.
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  Speaker 2: Either pumping the gas or someone wrote that they remembered
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  Speaker 2: their father sometimes when she was long on gas, he
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  Speaker 2: would just if he saw it, would go phillip her
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  Speaker 2: gas tank. She'd come back the next morning and go,
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  Speaker 2: oh my god, he filled my tank up. Some husbands
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  Speaker 2: do that for their wives. And look, is that the
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  Speaker 2: bare minimum? Or is that princess treatment?
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  Speaker 1: I guess is the question on that princess treatment? Putting
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  Speaker 1: gas in the car, that's doing something nice. That's almost
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  Speaker 1: similar to taking out the trash. There's something in Volkolk's take.
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  Speaker 1: I guess it's not supposed to be in these traditional
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  Speaker 1: roles man woman, But oftentimes the assignment of doing something
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  Speaker 1: dirty like that taking out the trash, it goes to
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  Speaker 1: the guy. Gassing up is something dirty. Women shouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: out there gassing up and she certainly if you're driving me. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I've been sitting passenger in your car before we pulled
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  Speaker 1: up to a gas station. I did not sit in
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  Speaker 1: my seat.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever, by the way, that has
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  Speaker 2: happened in my with a man and I'm driving, and
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  Speaker 2: I get I opened the and I'll be honest, I've
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  Speaker 2: looked to see, waited for a second.
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  Speaker 3: Nope, not he's not gonna do it. Okay, I guess
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  Speaker 3: I'll do it.
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  Speaker 2: I've actually had that exact experience, and you know what,
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  Speaker 2: I did expect it, and I was disappointed, and I
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  Speaker 2: was a little pissed. I'm not gonna lie. Am I
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  Speaker 2: perfectly capable of gassing up my own car? Yes, I'll
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  Speaker 2: do it all the time. But I feel like yes,
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  Speaker 2: so I have you have never once? You have never once,
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  Speaker 2: whether I'm in the passenger seat or in the driver's seat,
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  Speaker 2: I have never had to wait and see. You've always
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  Speaker 2: immediately gotten out of the car. You've pumped gas every
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  Speaker 2: time we've been together.
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  Speaker 1: I've never seen you pump gas. So I'm not sure
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  Speaker 1: if you are capable.
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  Speaker 2: I am sure you can ask some former partners of mine.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Number four letting her wear his coat if it's cold.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you give me shit about it, but
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  Speaker 2: you have done it. In fact, there was that time
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  Speaker 2: in Vegas. You bring up at least once a week, but.
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  Speaker 1: I only give you shit about it because we talked
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  Speaker 1: ahead of time about you possibly taking something. Now, which
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  Speaker 1: is this fair? Do I? When your cold and something
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  Speaker 1: turns and it happens, you don't have to ask. I
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  Speaker 1: have offered, and not offer an offer, only give you hell.
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  Speaker 1: When we discussed before we leave for the evening, I.
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  Speaker 2: Was operating under the bare minimum expectation that you would
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  Speaker 2: just obviously give me your coat.
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  Speaker 1: And I did, and you did. I always do.
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  Speaker 2: But but the thing is, sometimes anything I was gonna
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  Speaker 2: wear was going to be disruptive to my cute outfit.
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  Speaker 2: But like wearing your guy's jacket always is a wonderful accessory.
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  Speaker 1: Bro, is that case princess? The case we're talking about? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you were acting like a princess. I was.
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  Speaker 2: I'll admit it that because when I knew that I
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  Speaker 2: might get Vegas the air conditioning it's so.
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  Speaker 3: Cold, well, we were going to it.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't have to wear it at all, Like we
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  Speaker 1: were going to a place where it was secure that
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  Speaker 1: all we had to do is sit it down, your
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  Speaker 1: whole out and your whole outfit, no problem, and you
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  Speaker 1: would have only had to use it in an emergency,
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  Speaker 1: which you did have, and which means I had to
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  Speaker 1: take off a garment that I had been excited about
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  Speaker 1: wearing for a year.
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  Speaker 3: So true, It's so true, all.
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  Speaker 2: Right, But do you think that, by the way, just
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  Speaker 2: having a woman expect that a man would do that?
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  Speaker 3: Is that princess treatment or bare minimum?
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  Speaker 1: Hey there, I have a jacket on and the woman
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  Speaker 1: standing next to me is cold. You should give that
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  Speaker 1: to a stranger.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, very cool?
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  Speaker 2: All right, this is this one's funny, and then we'll
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  Speaker 2: go to the breakout for this one. But this one
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  Speaker 2: made me laugh because I did a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: a deeper dive. Number five taking care of her when
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  Speaker 2: she is sick. Prince's treatment or bare minimum?
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  Speaker 1: The how bare are can you get? Then?
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  Speaker 2: That?
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  Speaker 3: Yep? Okay? Well.
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  Speaker 2: Psychology Today did an entire article on why marriages are
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  Speaker 2: more likely to end when wives get sick. It's hilarious,
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  Speaker 2: but they just basically said that women are considered to
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  Speaker 2: be the caregivers and the nurturers and so when the
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  Speaker 2: wife gets sick, then the other person has to start
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  Speaker 2: packing up duties like cooking, cleaning, and caring for her.
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  Speaker 2: And oftentimes they see that men just don't handle it. Well,
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  Speaker 2: that was a larger study, but it made me laugh.
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  Speaker 1: What is it talking about? In that study? People have
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  Speaker 1: like more serious illness, like long term type.
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  Speaker 2: It can be serious, but it also can just be,
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  Speaker 2: you know, something where you have like a nagging this
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  Speaker 2: or a nagging that that It actually can lead to
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  Speaker 2: the end of relationships when women get sick versus when
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  Speaker 2: men do.
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  Speaker 3: They say, it's nothing changes.
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  Speaker 1: That You're talking like a sprained ankle. If a woman
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  Speaker 1: is out a commission for.
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  Speaker 3: A while, it might just be the final straw.
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  Speaker 1: May we are her, but.
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  Speaker 2: Stepping up when someone's sick, obviously, I think most people
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  Speaker 2: listening will agree that is bare minimum.
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  Speaker 3: That is not princess treatment.
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  Speaker 1: No, oh of course you Oh my god, I thought
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  Speaker 1: it was the other way around. Like if you were
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  Speaker 1: thinking about breaking up and then she gets sick, now
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  Speaker 1: you can't leave her because she's sick.
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  Speaker 3: They get out, What am I getting out of this now? Nada?
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  Speaker 3: I'm out? All right?
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: When we come back, we have actually we have one, two, three, four,
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  Speaker 2: We have five more, but they're hill. We'll try to
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  Speaker 2: go buy quicker. But these are really funny, So stay tuned.
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  Speaker 2: We got five more for you. Welcome back everyone to
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  Speaker 2: this very fun discussion about whether or not certain expectations
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  Speaker 2: that most women have in relationships are really truly just
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  Speaker 2: the bare minimum in a relationship, or are they princess treatment?
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  Speaker 3: Are we expecting too much?
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  Speaker 2: Men complaining on TikTok and in some articles that we've
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  Speaker 2: seen that these are unwritten rules that they didn't know
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  Speaker 2: about and now they're having tried to try to abide
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  Speaker 2: by that they don't agree with.
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  Speaker 1: Opening the car door is an unwritten rule.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, especially younger generation. Let's write it down
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  Speaker 2: the different parts of the country. Yes, all right, here's
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  Speaker 2: a funny one number is.
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  Speaker 1: Still a thing in the South, though you said generation,
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  Speaker 1: Are they still being some of those still?
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  Speaker 3: I know my nephews, do I know?
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  Speaker 2: I That can only speak through my personal experience, but
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  Speaker 2: I do think, oh, my goodness, down South versus up here,
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  Speaker 2: night and day. Okay, number six apologizing sincerely and with
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  Speaker 2: that is vulnerability. So I think women do have this
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  Speaker 2: bare minimum expectation that Yeah, your partner is going to
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  Speaker 2: open up to you. They're going to actually sincerely apologize,
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  Speaker 2: and men think, give me a break.
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  Speaker 3: I said, I was sorry, Let's move on.
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  Speaker 1: That's usually what you say to me. Jesus, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: getting the prince treatment.
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  Speaker 3: All right, So both partner should do that. It's not
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  Speaker 3: friends or princess stuff.
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  Speaker 2: This is another one that's kind of like, come on,
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  Speaker 2: remembering dates. Look for women, it seems to be a
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  Speaker 2: common complaint that their husbands forget their anniversaries.
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  Speaker 3: And again, we could go ahead and reverse this one too,
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  Speaker 3: because there is a recent, a recent example.
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  Speaker 1: Yes I remember twenty you did not, And that's okay,
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  Speaker 1: Yes I didn't. That's the end of the world. It happens.
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  Speaker 1: We have a lot of dates to keep up with
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  Speaker 1: between kids and anniversaries and parents and cancer versaries, and
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  Speaker 1: that's true a lottal So that's okay. But yeah, that
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  Speaker 1: almost feels like robes. I don't want to call it
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  Speaker 1: princess treatment. It is aspirational for a lot of men
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  Speaker 1: I have seen. It's something you just have to be
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  Speaker 1: conscious of. You're able to do it. But man, I
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  Speaker 1: mean as much as we look at our phones, stop
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  Speaker 1: fellas right now, put the dates in your phone, give
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  Speaker 1: yourself a one week reminder and a two day reminder,
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  Speaker 1: and you should be good, yes, for the rest of
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  Speaker 1: your marriage.
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  Speaker 3: It's true.
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  Speaker 2: We have no excuses, none of us, because we can
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  Speaker 2: all put it into our calendars.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 2: I know you'll like this one number eight. And again,
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  Speaker 2: you are the only man who I have been in
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  Speaker 2: a relationship with who has ever done this. But a
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  Speaker 2: lot of women do expect this, and some men think
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  Speaker 2: this is ridiculous walking on the outside of the sidewalk.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I don't know any different. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know any different. I don't I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: that do even women are? Are they aware of it?
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  Speaker 3: And I was aware of it immediately.
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  Speaker 2: Well, at first when you were doing it, I got
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  Speaker 2: confused because I'd have to switch my handbag because I
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  Speaker 2: didn't want to have the handbag like in between us.
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  Speaker 2: And you explain, I'm sorry, it's just the way my
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: mom raised me. I walk on the outside of the street,
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  Speaker 2: and as soon as you said that, I swooned.
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  Speaker 1: I'll be honest, But are do women, though in I
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  Speaker 1: don't know all parts of the country would even expect
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  Speaker 1: something like that or be impressed by or like that.
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  Speaker 3: Or I do think.
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  Speaker 2: I think in the South there is a little bit
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  Speaker 2: more of an expectation. I will tell you Eva interestingly,
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: who's dating now twenty three years old, noticed when.
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  Speaker 3: A guy did that and you immediately like wow.
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  Speaker 2: So it wasn't that she had an expectation, but man,
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  Speaker 2: it was a big win in her book to have
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  Speaker 2: a guy do that, because it isn't necessarily standard, especially
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  Speaker 2: here in New York.
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  Speaker 3: But I would actually.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: Say, especially here in New York, it's more appreciated because
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: of all that's going on. Think about all those buses
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: spraying water, just the concern that something could come up
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: on the curb. It's protective in a lot of very
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: speech chivalrous spays.
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: I even see you shifting.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: Look, if there's a shifty homeless man who we don't
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: know how erratically he may be behaving, you will actually
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: shift from the outside to that side to wherever the
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: threat is or the perceived threat could be. You will
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: shift where you are. And I see you doing it,
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: and that's very sexy.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: Don't think anything. It's just an automatic dude with sabine
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: walking down the street. It's just a I don't know.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: It's just I don't know anything that is so that
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: was put in me where OBEs. I guess the guy
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: would have to train himself or remember it if you did,
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: but I don't know any other thing to do. It
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: feels awkward to walk.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: On the other side, I love it, and I think
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: if women listening raise their sons like this, they will
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: be forever appreciated by the women.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: Who they date.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: All right, Number nine giving her flowers and this is
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: not just about on anniversaries, but actually just showing up
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: with flowers. There is this there is an expectation that
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: you hope your guy is going to do this, and
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: when they do, it's a huge win. It's just a
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: it's a gesture. The expectation of getting them might be
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: princess treatment.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: What do you think it's a princess mindset on that one.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: I don't think you.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: Mind a princess mindset.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: You might end up being let down a little on that.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: I don't think most guys usually said, it's mother's day,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: it's birthday, and what am I missing? Anniversary?
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, but it's so fun when it's just a Tuesday.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: Number ten doing chores without being asked you are like
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: and honestly, I didn't have that expectation because I never
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: had that experience. So when I saw you just cleaning
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: and just doing what you do, it is amazing. Housework
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: is a huge issue that damages relationships, and some of
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: it is because, yeah, we do have an expectation.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: I have a partner, I work too, and yet it
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: never seems to be even close to being equal.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: You are very different. You have always been just. I
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: don't say, babe, can you take out the trash?
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: Babe? Could you? Could you? Could you clear the dishes? Babe?
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: I never once have I ever asked you to do anything.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: No, was that yesterday you walked by the front door
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: and yeah, you said, where'd the trash? Cat? I was
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: going to take that out on my way and I'd
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: already taken it out. I don't know what I don't understand.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know every household works differently, But what's the expert.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know if how it works in another house,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: if one person doesn't do anything, if one person doesn't clean,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: why are you talking about chores? It's just cleaning up
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: after yourself. We all have Thank you for the space. No, No,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: I don't how does it work if one person refuses
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: to help around.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Because they've never had to because their mama didn't make
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: them that kind of a thing. But I don't think
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: that's princess treatment at all for you to clean up
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: without being asked. I'm telling you, babe, I have had
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: to ask every single guy I've ever dated to do
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: anything around the house, pretty much, even taking out the trash.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: Yes, so I got a keeper, all right.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: And finally paying when you go out. Look, a recent
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: study said eighty percent of men believed they were expected
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: to pay on dates.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: So I think a.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Lot of men agree with this, but the twenty percent
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: out there don't think they should have to. What do
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: you Is it a princess mindset to think or to
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: assume that the man is going to pay the bill
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: when you go out on a date.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: What does it say that we're splitting it? I don't,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I actually know. I'm very curious about this. I have
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: my way of thinking with some I guess would say
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: is backwards. You go out on a first date and
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: just having the expectation that the man pays. Does it
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: matter which one asks the other out? Does that make
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: a difference? If she asked him out. Does he have
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: to pay if they just agreed on some dating app
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: to is that? Wouldn't some take issue with an expectation
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: that the man pays.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: So, yes, I do, and I don't.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Look, I don't believe that there should be an expectation.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: I think that is princess mindset, that I'm owed this
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: or I deserve this, but it is chivalrous and it
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: is appreciated if the man does pay, and I do
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: prefer that mindset. However, to expect that, I do think
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: might be off putting.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: To expect it, Yeah.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: To expect it, and some people someone will say, I
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: will not go on a second date the man doesn't
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: pay the first and I do agree that that would
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: maybe impact how I felt about him, if he didn't
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: even yet or if he expected me to, especially if
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: he asked me out.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: There's no way I go. I would expect a woman
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: to pay the split the bill.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: I think they would probably expect.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Okay, is that a turn off?
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: The first date, it would definitely set me in the
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: wrong direction, send me in the wrong direction.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Wow, this is that is not princess treatment. It's not
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: a princess mindset either. First date, it's obvious who pays. Now,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: if we keep going, maybe you can alternate, Maybe you
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: could split the next one. And what's supposed to happen
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: is the woman at some point on date three say
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: you know what, let me get this one. Yes, that's
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: the way it's supposed to go.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: But there are some women who don't even think that.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: So yeah, it's interesting.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: And by the way, if you haven't checked out some
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: of these videos, it's hilarious. We're not big TikTok people,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: so I don't go on there just for fun unless
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: someone directs me there.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: And I had a blast watching them, so.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Hey, feel free to try it at home with your
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: significant other and see how it goes.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: All right with that, everyone, I have a wonderful Friday.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Thank you for listening. As always on Mami rot Walk
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: alongside TJ.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Holmes. We will talk to you soon.