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- 0:00Carmen Lezeth: Just because something bad happened to me as a kid, and just because I didn't have information as to who my dad was, my father was, and just because I didn't feel a certain way, doesn't mean it was the wrong way to feel.
- 0:18Carmen Lezeth: You don't have to allow the outside world or media, especially media that is completely manipulative to determine how you feel.
- 0:31Carmen Lezeth: You know how you feel.
- 0:34Carmen Lezeth: Hi everyone, welcome to All About the Joy.
- 0:38Carmen Lezeth: I am Carmen Lisette, your host, and this is Carmen Talk.
- 0:42Carmen Lezeth: When I was growing up, there were a lot of talk shows, and they were different than the talk shows today.
- 0:49Carmen Lezeth: But Oprah Winfrey, of course, was one of the biggest ones, and everybody would watch a show.
- 0:56Carmen Lezeth: But before her show would air, there were other shows.
- 0:59Carmen Lezeth: And I don't remember which one came first, but there was Phil Donahue, who also had a talk show, and he was kind of this mild-mannered kind of gentleman who kind of did the same thing Oprah did.
- 1:14Carmen Lezeth: And then there was a woman, I don't know if she was before or after his show, but sh it was the show was Sally Jessica Raphael.
- 1:23Carmen Lezeth: And all I really remember about her was she was this white woman with big red glasses.
- 1:27Carmen Lezeth: Like the frames were really huge, you know, and she seemed pleasant enough.
- 1:33Carmen Lezeth: And the reason why her show stuck with me so much is because she would do these episodes where she would bring somebody on, some young person onto the show, and they would talk about not having a certain parent.
- 1:48Carmen Lezeth: And the ones that would affect me the most are the ones that didn't have fathers.
- 1:52Carmen Lezeth: And I think the one I remember most is Chili from TLC.
- 1:57Carmen Lezeth: She came on the show and she was talking about it.
- 2:00Carmen Lezeth: But it's such a mash of those stories.
- 2:04Carmen Lezeth: I don't know if this is Chili's story or just a mash of all of them.
- 2:08Carmen Lezeth: And that's not really the point.
- 2:09Carmen Lezeth: But the person would come on and Sally Jessica Raphael would say to them, Tell us about your story.
- 2:17Carmen Lezeth: And the person would be like, Well, I grew up and I didn't know who my father was, and I don't know if he loved me.
- 2:23Carmen Lezeth: And I don't, you know, they would say all of these things that we would just connect to, right?
- 2:27Carmen Lezeth: While you're watching it, you would feel for this person.
- 2:29Carmen Lezeth: And they would say something, you know, to the effect of, I don't know why my mother doesn't want me to have a relationship with him.
- 2:37Carmen Lezeth: And so you could tell there was turmoil and there was sadness and there was something.
- 2:42Carmen Lezeth: And then of course, Sally Jessica Raphael would bring out the father unexpectedly, and they would hug and they would cry, and it was so dramatic.
- 2:53Carmen Lezeth: And I always hated that part.
- 2:57Carmen Lezeth: And I'll tell you why.
- 3:00Carmen Lezeth: One of the things that I would hate about the person, not really hate, but I would not like about hearing this story is the person would inevitably who is sitting there talking about how they don't know their mother or their father or their sibling or whatever, would be sitting there talking about how, because I don't know who my father is, I don't know who I am.
- 3:22Carmen Lezeth: You know, they would always say this thing.
- 3:24Carmen Lezeth: And that would always push me out of the story.
- 3:27Carmen Lezeth: So for those of you who don't know, I grew up not knowing who my father was.
- 3:32Carmen Lezeth: My mom died when I was really young.
- 3:35Carmen Lezeth: She told me that she would tell me when I was 16 years old the one or two times I asked, because the first time she said she would tell me when I was 16.
- 3:44Carmen Lezeth: The second time it was like, don't ask again.
- 3:47Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean?
- 3:48Carmen Lezeth: And unfortunately, my mom passed away way before that.
- 3:51Carmen Lezeth: I was 11 when she passed away.
- 3:53Carmen Lezeth: And she didn't tell anybody anything about my father.
- 3:57Carmen Lezeth: And so I never had an identity crisis.
- 4:04Carmen Lezeth: I never had a feeling like I wasn't whole because I didn't have a father figure.
- 4:12Carmen Lezeth: That never was my experience.
- 4:14Carmen Lezeth: And yet, as I was watching all of these people one after the other come onto the Sally Jessica Raphael show, you know, I started thinking is there something wrong with me?
- 4:24Carmen Lezeth: I don't feel like I don't know who I am.
- 4:27Carmen Lezeth: I mean, I didn't know what other part of the world my ethnicity was from.
- 4:34Carmen Lezeth: I looked very different than my mom.
- 4:37Carmen Lezeth: I didn't look like my mom at all.
- 4:39Carmen Lezeth: And I don't have relatives that I look like either that are blood related, supposedly.
- 4:46Carmen Lezeth: So I just didn't have a grasp of, you know, that other side of me, but it never made me feel like I wasn't a complete person.
- 4:57Carmen Lezeth: And so I would watch these people on this show, and I would think there's something wrong with me because I didn't feel that way.
- 5:04Carmen Lezeth: And I was like, and I'd start doubting myself, right?
- 5:07Carmen Lezeth: I'd start questioning, like, is am I doing life wrong or whatever, right?
- 5:12Carmen Lezeth: Am I am I a bad person?
- 5:14Carmen Lezeth: Because I don't, I don't miss my father that way.
- 5:17Carmen Lezeth: I can't, and I always used to say this when I was younger too.
- 5:19Carmen Lezeth: I can't miss something I never had.
- 5:22Carmen Lezeth: And I am a whole and complete person, right?
- 5:26Carmen Lezeth: I'm Gotaming Swatus.
- 5:28Carmen Lezeth: Like my last name, Swatus, is my mother's maiden name.
- 5:31Carmen Lezeth: I don't have that information either in my in my birth certificate.
- 5:35Carmen Lezeth: So that's that's my point, is I never felt odd or bad or different until I watched this show, this piece of media.
- 5:45Carmen Lezeth: And then I started doubting myself.
- 5:47Carmen Lezeth: And then I started questioning if I was feeling wrong or bad because I didn't feel a certain way.
- 5:54Carmen Lezeth: Like, why wasn't I angry?
- 5:55Carmen Lezeth: Why wasn't I upset?
- 5:57Carmen Lezeth: Why wasn't I feeling not whole?
- 5:58Carmen Lezeth: Why wasn't I feeling like my mother did something bad and wrong to me by not telling me, right?
- 6:05Carmen Lezeth: Just because something bad happened to me as a kid, and just because I didn't have information as to who my dad was, my father was, and just because I didn't feel a certain way, doesn't mean it was the wrong way to feel.
- 6:23Carmen Lezeth: And it took me a long time to reconcile that, to understand that it was okay.
- 6:29Carmen Lezeth: I had enough men in my life, or enough women, strong women in my life, that even though I was going through the circumstance I was going through as a kid, there were people who were not acting as my father.
- 6:46Carmen Lezeth: There were not people who were trying to be my father, but they were male figures who made me understand that I was a good person, a good kid, a good human being, and that I was whole and complete and that I was okay.
- 7:02Carmen Lezeth: Me not having a dad or me not having what everybody else had growing up, me not having a mom didn't make me angry or upset or pained or less than.
- 7:17Carmen Lezeth: Because it's all very different, right?
- 7:30Carmen Lezeth: Everybody has a different backstory and a different understanding of their circumstance.
- 7:36Carmen Lezeth: So I'm not trying to dismiss people who may feel that way.
- 7:40Carmen Lezeth: What I'm saying is that when you're feeling a certain way and you're presented with information, you don't have to now all of a sudden start to be angry.
- 7:51Carmen Lezeth: You don't have to allow the outside world or media, especially media that is completely manipulated and manipulative to determine how you feel.
- 8:06Carmen Lezeth: You know how you feel.
- 8:09Carmen Lezeth: I started going down that rabbit hole, like, yeah, why I should be angry, right?
- 8:15Carmen Lezeth: I should be upset.
- 8:16Carmen Lezeth: Like, why didn't my mom, why didn't she tell me, oh my God, how could she not know that this and then I was like, whoa, wait, whoa, like my mother, who loved me from all I've been told, because I don't really remember that much, but I would have never done anything to hurt me on purpose.
- 8:34Carmen Lezeth: My mom's intention was not to do anything to make my life harder.
- 8:41Carmen Lezeth: That was not her pure intention ever.
- 8:44Carmen Lezeth: And I know that in my soul.
- 8:48Carmen Lezeth: I know that.
- 8:49Carmen Lezeth: And me not having a father and me not having pains and anger and angst about not having a father didn't change the trajectory of my journey because I stayed in a place of gratitude and joy and curiosity, right?
- 9:09Carmen Lezeth: I have always been curious about who my father was.
- 9:12Carmen Lezeth: And I did all the DNA testing and I did all that.
- 9:16Carmen Lezeth: So I know what my ethnicity is now, which is an interesting, amazing thing about technology, but I'm still not angry at him.
- 9:25Carmen Lezeth: And I wrote an entire book about all the people that intervened in my life.
- 9:28Carmen Lezeth: The name of the book is Canela, which means cinnamon, which is the color of my skin.
- 9:34Carmen Lezeth: And the whole thorough line through that book is me talking to a father I never knew.
- 9:44Carmen Lezeth: That's the that's who I'm talking to.
- 9:46Carmen Lezeth: For those of you who haven't read the book, spoiler alert.
- 9:50Carmen Lezeth: Um, but the way I created this book, because it wasn't intentionally supposed to be a book, I made it like I had finally found out who he was and he was dead, and I found his grave, and I was sitting at the grave explaining to him my entire life, at least up until I graduated from high school.
- 10:09Carmen Lezeth: So the whole book, there were these uh moments where I'm talking to the audience, and actually I'm talking to my father.
- 10:17Carmen Lezeth: And anybody who knows me knows that I everything about fathers and daughters or fathers and sons makes me so happy.
- 10:29Carmen Lezeth: You know, it's always made me like uh there's a song by Luther Vandros, I believe, and it's um Dance with My Father.
- 10:37Carmen Lezeth: I could cry thinking about it right now.
- 10:39Carmen Lezeth: I love, oh, I love that song because I dream about that idea.
- 10:44Carmen Lezeth: Like if you listen to the lyrics, it's the idea that my mom would be happy dancing with whoever the man was that she was with and that I was born, you know, like, or another one was I remember Tim Russert, who, for those of you who don't know who Tim Russet was, he was an amazing uh newscaster, a new person journalist.
- 11:06Carmen Lezeth: And I think he'd I forget what the show, oh, he did Meet the Press.
- 11:09Carmen Lezeth: That's the name of the show that he used to um anchor.
- 11:13Carmen Lezeth: And I think it was like in 2002 or 2004, he did a book called like Big Russ and Me.
- 11:21Carmen Lezeth: And it was a book about him and his father.
- 11:24Carmen Lezeth: And I remember reading that book, and I was like, oh my God, you know, like one of my favorite movies, Field of Dreams, which people make the mistake of thinking it's a baseball movie, is one of my favorite movies for so many reasons, but the biggest reason is spoiler alert if you haven't seen Field of Dreams, is he plays catch with his father at the end.
- 11:47Carmen Lezeth: And I love that.
- 11:50Carmen Lezeth: I have always been able to be positive about my circumstance.
- 11:55Carmen Lezeth: I have always been able to see the joy, to walk through the other side of whatever hell you think you're walking in, get to the other side and find the light, find the joy, find the positivity.
- 12:08Carmen Lezeth: And why am I bringing this up?
- 12:11Carmen Lezeth: Why am I talking about this so much?
- 12:13Carmen Lezeth: I think because my story wouldn't happen today if I was the 11-year-old kid who lost their mom and had no father.
- 12:27Carmen Lezeth: The story that happened would not happen today because we have become a country and a people who are angst, who are selfish and inconsiderate.
- 12:44Carmen Lezeth: We wouldn't want to take in an 11-year-old brown kid who's on the streets.
- 12:49Carmen Lezeth: We we we wouldn't do that.
- 12:51Carmen Lezeth: Now I know as you're listening to this, you're going, I would, of course, of course I would.
- 12:55Carmen Lezeth: Of course I would, right?
- 12:57Carmen Lezeth: That's what we but you we're we're watching that today.
- 13:00Carmen Lezeth: We're watching people, and we've seen this happen over and over again.
- 13:07Carmen Lezeth: And what we're doing is we're believing, we're believing that our circumstance that we find ourselves in, whether it's we don't have enough money, we don't have the right job, we don't have the right connections, instead of being okay in that circumstance and trying to find our way through it to get to the other side of it, we've decided instead to blame people for our circumstance.
- 13:36Carmen Lezeth: So instead of me being able to say, I am okay, I don't know who my father is, but I am a whole and complete person, anyways, and I'm gonna try to get through this journey in my life.
- 13:53Carmen Lezeth: And trust me, as I say that it wasn't that grand of a thing.
- 13:57Carmen Lezeth: I was a kid after all, but it is the ability to see that you are in a situation and all you can do is choose to move forward.
- 14:06Carmen Lezeth: But if I didn't do that and instead started blaming people, if I started letting a show like Sally Jessica Raphael influence me in such a way that I changed the trajectory of who I was and instead started being angry at my mother and angry at the people who let me down, and angry at everybody who didn't know who my father was or didn't tell me, or angry at whatever, God or whatever it is, that would have been a very different human being.
- 14:38Carmen Lezeth: I would have not been the child I was, the teenager I became, the young adult I was, and now the person I am today, because I would have let the idea of pain and anger and hatred take over my life as opposed to taking responsibility for the cards that I've been dealt and working through it anyways, and finding grace in the people that did walk through, and finding joy in the circumstances I had the ability to be joyful about.
- 15:11Carmen Lezeth: We have now become, as people in this country of the United States, so mired in TikTok videos and shorts and Instagram.
- 15:25Carmen Lezeth: And I know my friend Andrea and my co-host on Culture and Consequences watching this, going, exactly, I hate social media, and that's not what I'm talking about.
- 15:36Carmen Lezeth: I don't hate social media and I love technology.
- 15:39Carmen Lezeth: But what is true is that we haven't learned how to use it because what we've allowed it to do is influence who we are, believe everything everybody says, and then change the trajectory of who we can be.
- 15:56Carmen Lezeth: Because it's so much easier to be angry and to hate and to blame someone else, anyone else, immigrants, anybody who's brown, anybody who's poor.
- 16:09Carmen Lezeth: They have us believing that our anger is towards people who come to this country are the problem.
- 16:19Carmen Lezeth: That the reason why my eggs are high or my rent is too high, or I can't get the job I want is because immigrants are stealing my job, jobs that we'd never want to do.
- 16:31Carmen Lezeth: That's what they have us believing.
- 16:33Carmen Lezeth: They don't have us understanding fully and completely that the real problem is that corporations and big-time companies that are making tons and tons of money are not doing what they're supposed to be doing.
- 16:50Carmen Lezeth: They're not doing the work they're supposed to be doing in order for all of us to have a great society.
- 16:56Carmen Lezeth: And that's not about handouts, that's not about giving away free stuff, that's not about me not believing in capitalism.
- 17:04Carmen Lezeth: I do.
- 17:05Carmen Lezeth: I don't love capitalism, but I can see how it could work.
- 17:08Carmen Lezeth: But what it is saying is that if I expect my neighbors to have a high bar and I expect them to have standards as to how they behave and how they work and function in society, I have that same angst and feeling towards corporations.
- 17:30Carmen Lezeth: I want you, corporations and billionaires, I want you to do right by people.
- 17:39Carmen Lezeth: I want you to do the right thing and make sure you're not trying to stir up this weird pot so that you can keep making more and more money, so that you can keep getting more and more clicks and more and more profit at the expense of my good neighbors and my good friends.
- 17:58Carmen Lezeth: All anybody wants, all any human being wants around the world, not just coming to the United States, but around the world, is to be able to eat, to have shelter, and to be loved.
- 18:16Carmen Lezeth: That's all anybody wants.
- 18:21Carmen Lezeth: It is basic.
- 18:24Carmen Lezeth: And the idea that we have allowed people to influence the trajectory of who we are as human beings breaks my heart.
- 18:38Carmen Lezeth: The amount of hatred, the amount of bad information that is influencing your choices as to who to vote for or who to love or who to accept or who to allow to be here breaks my complete soul.
- 18:57Carmen Lezeth: My story would not happen if it happened today.
- 19:03Carmen Lezeth: And I know that to be true, and it breaks my heart because my story, the story I wrote in Canela, is about the neighborhood coming out, people from all walks of life making sure I didn't fall through the cracks.
- 19:18Carmen Lezeth: Poor black kid with no parents.
- 19:23Carmen Lezeth: All of these people came out of the woodwork to make sure at different times.
- 19:29Carmen Lezeth: And here's the thing: it wasn't like they had a committee meeting.
- 19:32Carmen Lezeth: It wasn't like they all got together and said, you know what, let's make they did, it's not what happened.
- 19:37Carmen Lezeth: It was a time where we had compassion and love for each other.
- 19:42Carmen Lezeth: It was a time when somebody was hurting, when a child was hurting, we did our due diligence.
- 19:48Carmen Lezeth: I am still in touch with my seventh-grade teacher to this day.
- 19:52Carmen Lezeth: I am still in touch with so many of the people I wrote about in that book who walked me through.
- 20:02Carmen Lezeth: And I'll always be grateful to them.
- 20:05Carmen Lezeth: And some of them I give way too much credit to.
- 20:07Carmen Lezeth: There's no doubt about it.
- 20:08Carmen Lezeth: Like I also understand that I was a pretty smart kid.
- 20:11Carmen Lezeth: But here's the thing: most kids are.
- 20:13Carmen Lezeth: I believe most people are good and decent human beings.
- 20:18Carmen Lezeth: But I also know that life is hard.
- 20:23Carmen Lezeth: It is really, really hard.
- 20:26Carmen Lezeth: And sometimes it really is easier to think those damn immigrants, they're the reason why.
- 20:34Carmen Lezeth: They're the problem, they're the ones.
- 20:36Carmen Lezeth: It's them.
- 20:38Carmen Lezeth: That's why I'm in pain.
- 20:40Carmen Lezeth: Or that's why my son is a drug addict, or that's why this one you can come up with all the reasons once you find that boogeyman, once you find that person to blame and hate.
- 20:53Carmen Lezeth: Hate is powerful.
- 20:56Carmen Lezeth: It's such a powerful drug, you have no idea, and it's hard to fight against it.
- 21:02Carmen Lezeth: That's why so many Christians are having this weird problem right now.
- 21:07Carmen Lezeth: Because, on the one hand, you're justifying without even realizing you're justifying everything you don't believe in.
- 21:17Carmen Lezeth: Because hate is so powerful.
- 21:22Carmen Lezeth: It twists you into like pretzels to try to understand, like you're conforming arguments and excuses for things that are so easy to see.
- 21:36Carmen Lezeth: You can so easily see them, and I know you can.
- 21:42Carmen Lezeth: But to do that would be to admit that you made a mistake.
- 21:47Carmen Lezeth: And here's the thing this is a tough time for everybody.
- 21:50Carmen Lezeth: I'm doing this Carmen talk because I feel the need to share that my heart is broken about this country.
- 21:59Carmen Lezeth: And I am well aware that I am absolutely nobody.
- 22:04Carmen Lezeth: I do my shows.
- 22:06Carmen Lezeth: I will continue to share my peace because this is my way of trying to bring joy to other people.
- 22:13Carmen Lezeth: This is my way of helping people with what I know, with what I learned.
- 22:18Carmen Lezeth: These are the gifts that I was born with, and I am trying to share them to the best of my ability.
- 22:24Carmen Lezeth: And during this time period in the United States, while we are going through this pain and through this heartache, I am also very well aware that I might be able to get through just one person and to say to you, please stop.
- 22:38Carmen Lezeth: Stop going down the rabbit hole.
- 22:41Carmen Lezeth: Stop it.
- 22:42Carmen Lezeth: You can actually come back to where you used to be and you can walk through whatever you need to walk through and not be a person filled with so much hate and so much anger and all the whataboutisms.
- 22:57Carmen Lezeth: Well, what about this?
- 22:58Carmen Lezeth: What about stop?
- 22:59Carmen Lezeth: Be a good person.
- 23:04Carmen Lezeth: Be a good and decent person.
- 23:06Carmen Lezeth: Don't just talk the talk.
- 23:09Carmen Lezeth: Don't just spit out Bible verses or wisdom notes from this and that.
- 23:15Carmen Lezeth: Actually become a compassionate, loving, listening person.
- 23:19Carmen Lezeth: Actually become the person you want to be in the world.
- 23:25Carmen Lezeth: Treat your neighbor as you would treat yourself.
- 23:29Carmen Lezeth: And here's the last thing I'll say.
- 23:32Carmen Lezeth: We can all bring our cultures and who we are to this moment in time and be magnificent, be better because we know people of different cultures.
- 23:44Carmen Lezeth: I was saying this, again, I've said it like two or three times now in the past week, but this idea, when I was growing up, I remember one of the biggest arguments was this idea that like I would fight with people that we were not a melting pot.
- 23:57Carmen Lezeth: We were salad, we were like a salad, right?
- 23:59Carmen Lezeth: So when I was growing up, we used to say, is America a melting pot, right?
- 24:03Carmen Lezeth: Where everybody from different cultures.
- 24:05Carmen Lezeth: So if you were Irish or if you were African American or you were Latino, that we would all meld together and, you know, make one, I don't know, mishmash of soup or something, right?
- 24:15Carmen Lezeth: And I would always say, because I always believed this, like, no, we're more like a salad, right?
- 24:20Carmen Lezeth: Like I'm a tomato and you're a lettuce and you're onion or whatever.
- 24:23Carmen Lezeth: And together we make this great meal, this great salad.
- 24:27Carmen Lezeth: Like we're all still one unified meal, but but we're all very distinct and beautiful and we contribute in different ways.
- 24:36Carmen Lezeth: That's the country I want.
- 24:39Carmen Lezeth: That's the country I believe in.
- 24:41Carmen Lezeth: That's the people I still believe in.
- 24:43Carmen Lezeth: It's killing me.
- 24:44Carmen Lezeth: But I still believe in the best of who we can be.
- 24:48Carmen Lezeth: I really, really do.
- 24:49Carmen Lezeth: I still believe that the country, the United States of America, not the blue country, not the red country, but the United States of America, just stealing a little bit from President Barack Obama.
- 25:01Carmen Lezeth: I think he was senator then when he did that speech, but it's a beautiful speech, right?
- 25:06Carmen Lezeth: We were all so excited to hear that speech because it was true.
- 25:10Carmen Lezeth: We were not a red America, we were not a blue America, we were the United States of America, and we need to get back there.
- 25:19Carmen Lezeth: We need to get back there.
- 25:21Carmen Lezeth: So, in summary, stop letting other people influence what you know to be true.
- 25:30Carmen Lezeth: That really is the gist of this whole conversation.
- 25:33Carmen Lezeth: You are okay.
- 25:35Carmen Lezeth: You are okay as a human being.
- 25:39Carmen Lezeth: You will be okay as a human being.
- 25:42Carmen Lezeth: You don't have to hate other people to walk through this life.
- 25:46Carmen Lezeth: And I have to tell you, living in that kind of hate is going to make for a miserable life.
- 25:52Carmen Lezeth: Having so much anger and pain keeps you stuck.
- 25:57Carmen Lezeth: But when you choose joy, when you choose to walk in grace, you it's not easier, completely easier, but it feels better because you work through your issues, you work through your problems, and you don't have all this hate towards other people.
- 26:17Carmen Lezeth: I hope that helps.
- 26:22Carmen Lezeth: I hope that helps one person.
- 26:24Carmen Lezeth: I hope it also makes people understand why I do the show I do and why I will continue to always share my piece, whether that's in speaking events or writing my second book, the next book that I'm working on right now, or doing these shows that we do every week, Culture and Consequence, The Private Lounge, and the Friday Night Lives.
- 26:47Carmen Lezeth: Like, I want you to understand what it is I'm doing and what I'm trying to do so that you can also be a part of this neighborhood, be part of this community in a really authentic and awesome way, right?
- 26:59Carmen Lezeth: Not just passerby.
- 27:02Carmen Lezeth: And I do really believe this and I wish this for everyone.
- 27:06Carmen Lezeth: First of all, uh, this is going to be airing right before the Super Bowl.
- 27:11Carmen Lezeth: So I hope everyone will enjoy uh the Super Bowl, regardless of who you're cheering for.
- 27:17Carmen Lezeth: I'm originally from Boston, that's all I'll say.
- 27:20Carmen Lezeth: But really, Bad Bunny is going to be doing the halftime show.
- 27:25Carmen Lezeth: And I'm excited for so many reasons, because again, the other thing I love about the United States is that we've always been curious and we've always had so many different cultures.
- 27:36Carmen Lezeth: The salad, remember, the salad bowl, and the thing about Puerto Rico that is wonderful is we should know more about it.
- 27:45Carmen Lezeth: And we are about to get the opportunity, just like we know about Texas, and just like we know about Kansas, and just like we know about Minneapolis or you know, Minnesota, or Chicago, Illinois, or Los Angeles, California.
- 27:59Carmen Lezeth: Now we're gonna learn about Puerto Rico.
- 28:02Carmen Lezeth: And we should.
- 28:03Carmen Lezeth: We should definitely know our country and all of its lovely flavors.
- 28:10Carmen Lezeth: And yeah, I could go on and on, but I won't.
- 28:13Carmen Lezeth: So remember, at the end of the day, it really is all about the joy.
- 28:18Carmen Lezeth: And thank you so much for being here.
- 28:19Carmen Lezeth: I appreciate it.
- 28:21Carmen Lezeth: Thanks for stopping by, All About the Joy.
- 28:24Carmen Lezeth: Be better and stay beautiful, folks.
- 28:26Carmen Lezeth: Have a sweet day.