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- 0:39Speaker 1: congratulations on this journey that you've been on, because you're
- 0:43Speaker 1: part of something that's gonna be with us for decades.
- 0:45Speaker 1: I'm I mean breaking bad sopranos. I mean you guys
- 0:49Speaker 1: and this team that you have had. This is what
- 0:51Speaker 1: it's all about to me, that that generations beyond now
- 0:55Speaker 1: are gonna go. Have you seen that new show Euphoria
- 0:58Speaker 1: new show? Yeah? Yeah, I have.
- 1:03Speaker 2: Oh man, well I'm running on coffee and adoreurnaline this morning.
- 1:06Speaker 2: But yeah, the finale aired last night and I thought
- 1:08Speaker 2: it was beautifully done. You know, it was a late
- 1:11Speaker 2: night with all the excitement, and I ended up putting
- 1:14Speaker 2: my buddy Martin Sinemaira on tape for heat too. Martin
- 1:17Speaker 2: was ELS's native husband in eighteen eighty three and one
- 1:21Speaker 2: of my best friends. We've done a bunch of westerns together.
- 1:23Speaker 2: But like you were saying about this show, it was
- 1:26Speaker 2: just one of those legendary Hollywood nights that you know,
- 1:30Speaker 2: it's a late night in early morning. But I'm so
- 1:32Speaker 2: grateful to be a part of this thing, and I
- 1:34Speaker 2: couldn't be more excited.
- 1:36Speaker 1: I got to tell you inside my heart, you know,
- 1:38Speaker 1: I've seen all the newspaper articles and the clickbeat and
- 1:41Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff where Sam is saying, yeah,
- 1:43Speaker 1: this is it. But in my heart, I'm going, wait
- 1:45Speaker 1: a second. But I've read more articles about what it's
- 1:48Speaker 1: like to be on the set and how Sam likes
- 1:50Speaker 1: to throw those lines in. I'm thinking, in my heart,
- 1:52Speaker 1: it ain't over yet. There's no way he's still sitting
- 1:55Speaker 1: on the sidelines going, oh, I've got one more idea, try.
- 1:58Speaker 2: This, Oh, man, well, I'll tell you this. I was
- 2:03Speaker 2: supposed to dye a glorious death in a blaze of
- 2:07Speaker 2: glory with eighty to one hundred squibs getting lit up
- 2:11Speaker 2: by the Dea. And rumor has it that the network
- 2:16Speaker 2: was asking if Sam would be open to another season
- 2:19Speaker 2: and suddenly Sam was like, you know what, You're not
- 2:22Speaker 2: going to die. So I hope we get another one,
- 2:24Speaker 2: and even if Harley's in prison, I'd like to think
- 2:27Speaker 2: he'll be the king of San Quentin storytelling.
- 2:30Speaker 1: For you. What I loved about euph you is the
- 2:33Speaker 1: fact that you guys are also ie actors. And what
- 2:36Speaker 1: I mean by that is I'm the freak. I'm the
- 2:37Speaker 1: one will sit there and stare into your guys's eyes
- 2:40Speaker 1: as you're delivering your lines because I want to feel
- 2:42Speaker 1: that emotion. And I believe the eyes are the windows
- 2:45Speaker 1: to the soul. Is that something you guys worked on
- 2:47Speaker 1: on this set because everybody's eyes are so powerful?
- 2:54Speaker 2: Oh? Man, well, yeah, the eyes are definitely in the
- 2:56Speaker 2: window to the soul. And for an actor, you're talking
- 2:59Speaker 2: head on screen, so that's everything. It's all coming from
- 3:02Speaker 2: you and pouring out in that direction. But I mean
- 3:06Speaker 2: when you got a dp like Marcel rev shooting you
- 3:09Speaker 2: on this retired Kodak film that they brought out a retirement.
- 3:14Speaker 2: I mean, you know it's going to look good. I mean,
- 3:17Speaker 2: it's just the crew on that show. It's the best
- 3:20Speaker 2: of the best. So you know, those eyes were definitely popping,
- 3:25Speaker 2: and you know, everybody's just so authentic on this show.
- 3:29Speaker 2: I think Sam is a master at casting these characters.
- 3:34Speaker 2: And there's something about it. It's just it feels a
- 3:38Speaker 2: little more raw and real and not like a munch
- 3:42Speaker 2: actors saying.
- 3:43Speaker 1: A line that is so funny. You say that because
- 3:45Speaker 1: my wife and I have talked about that so many times.
- 3:47Speaker 1: In the way of going this reminds me so much
- 3:49Speaker 1: of the music of the fifties and sixties in the
- 3:51Speaker 1: way that they went into that studio. They didn't have
- 3:53Speaker 1: time to waste, so they went in there and they
- 3:55Speaker 1: did it. They brought it to life right right then
- 3:57Speaker 1: and now. And the thing is is that, look how
- 3:59Speaker 1: we're still in enjoying that sound. The same is true
- 4:01Speaker 1: about Euphoria. It's never going to go away. It's always
- 4:05Speaker 1: going to be a part of us.
- 4:08Speaker 2: I think, so yeah, and Sam's keeping that alive. You know,
- 4:12Speaker 2: he's he's still shooting on film and and you know,
- 4:16Speaker 2: I know the network's spent a lot of money on
- 4:18Speaker 2: this show, but I think it was money well spent
- 4:21Speaker 2: because that episode last night was just one of the
- 4:25Speaker 2: most epic things I've ever seen in my life. And
- 4:28Speaker 2: you know, I'm as a fan of westerns. I mean
- 4:31Speaker 2: that that face off between Alamo and and and Coleman
- 4:37Speaker 2: last night was I mean, I was just on the
- 4:40Speaker 2: edge of my seat and that was the coolest cowboy
- 4:44Speaker 2: scene I've ever seen in my life. I mean, it
- 4:46Speaker 2: was just incredible. I can't say enough about it.
- 4:48Speaker 1: Yeah, but don't you think that's because your voice acting
- 4:51Speaker 1: as well, really brings this out because we buy into
- 4:54Speaker 1: that storyline. I mean when when we're sitting there thinking
- 4:57Speaker 1: about what you were doing, I mean it's it's like
- 4:59Speaker 1: there's so much that's going but when you delivered those lines,
- 5:02Speaker 1: who taught you that pacing? Because you know how to
- 5:05Speaker 1: put that line out there so we can go, WHOA,
- 5:08Speaker 1: what the hell was that? Thank you, sir, I'll have another.
- 5:11Speaker 2: Oh well, I appreciate that, and I might have my
- 5:16Speaker 2: caj and ancestors to thank for it. But I think
- 5:20Speaker 2: you know, being born on the BYU, and I think
- 5:24Speaker 2: there's a certain laissez faire attitude and delivery that comes
- 5:29Speaker 2: with it. So I might credit my delivery to just that.
- 5:34Speaker 1: Now, being from the state of Montana that I am.
- 5:36Speaker 1: The thing about it is, as I always thought that
- 5:38Speaker 1: you would play a great wild Bill Hitchcock. I mean,
- 5:40Speaker 1: I know that you love your Westerns, but there's just
- 5:43Speaker 1: something about your delivery of those words, and even with
- 5:46Speaker 1: that Southern accent, that's the wild Bill Hitchcock that I've
- 5:50Speaker 1: envision that I studied my entire life being up there
- 5:52Speaker 1: in Montana. I want you to be that role.
- 5:57Speaker 2: Oh man, that would be a dream role for me.
- 6:00Speaker 2: It's funny you say that, because when I would put
- 6:03Speaker 2: in those mullet extensions, I was instantly getting wild Bill vibes,
- 6:10Speaker 2: especially when I come back to the ranch and put
- 6:13Speaker 2: on my cowboy gear and start tending on the horses.
- 6:17Speaker 2: But yeah, it was definitely giving wild Bill. So that's
- 6:20Speaker 2: a good catch. And hopefully whoever's making the next wild
- 6:24Speaker 2: Bill thing, they're right there with you.
- 6:27Speaker 1: What was that like for you to have those relationships
- 6:29Speaker 1: with the horses, because I know what it's like to
- 6:31Speaker 1: be on those horses. They can be a little finicky
- 6:33Speaker 1: at times, especially if you're out there real early in
- 6:35Speaker 1: the morning and they aren't in the mood to put
- 6:37Speaker 1: up with the human figure.
- 6:41Speaker 2: Oh man, yeah, I think you know. I you know,
- 6:46Speaker 2: I got three horses here at home, and so I
- 6:50Speaker 2: spend more time with the horses than I do with humans.
- 6:52Speaker 2: So I am tend to be more comfortable with them
- 6:57Speaker 2: than I am with other people even And you know,
- 7:01Speaker 2: there's something about it, a big animal like that, with
- 7:03Speaker 2: that energy. I mean, it's it's healing, it's coming. They
- 7:08Speaker 2: see right through everything. You know. They don't They don't
- 7:12Speaker 2: care what show you're on, or if you got your
- 7:15Speaker 2: lines down today or not, or what you got to
- 7:18Speaker 2: do after work. They can just feel your anxiety or
- 7:24Speaker 2: your comfortability instantly.
- 7:29Speaker 1: Oh please do not move. There's more with James Landry
- 7:31Speaker 1: Haybert coming up next Euphoria. As far as I'm concerned,
- 7:37Speaker 1: this is just the first step of a brand new beginning.
- 7:41Speaker 1: We are back with James Landry Haybear. Don't you love
- 7:44Speaker 1: that relationship that we have with horses that you can
- 7:47Speaker 1: just stare into their eyes and to me, it's not
- 7:49Speaker 1: a horse whisper, It is a human whisper. They're talking
- 7:53Speaker 1: to us and we're reacting. Do you do you follow
- 7:56Speaker 1: that same path as well?
- 7:59Speaker 2: Oh for sure. I mean, you know, it's it's almost
- 8:04Speaker 2: like therapy being with the horses every day like that.
- 8:07Speaker 2: I mean again, they you know, they don't care if
- 8:10Speaker 2: you're on the next hit TV show or whatever. They
- 8:15Speaker 2: can just feel your energy and and they can be
- 8:19Speaker 2: so calming, and you know, I think even their their
- 8:23Speaker 2: heart rate compared to yours, and and sort of the
- 8:26Speaker 2: vibes that they give off. It's it's really something special.
- 8:31Speaker 2: And after a few minutes of the horse, I feel
- 8:33Speaker 2: like you're you're instantly at ease. And you know when
- 8:37Speaker 2: a when a horse starts licking and chewing and you
- 8:40Speaker 2: can tell that that he is also at ease. I
- 8:43Speaker 2: think it's it's a beautiful marriage of energy that gets transferred.
- 8:48Speaker 1: Yeah, but doesn't that energy actually start when you're mucking
- 8:51Speaker 1: up the actual stall itself? And that because I mean,
- 8:53Speaker 1: the horse knows that you're there for them, You're going
- 8:55Speaker 1: to bring the food, You're going to make them the
- 8:56Speaker 1: stall look absolutely fantastic. It's almost like they're saying, so,
- 9:00Speaker 1: what do you want me to do for you? All Right?
- 9:01Speaker 1: We're on it together. We're a team here. I just
- 9:04Speaker 1: love the relationship with horses and it's just so fascinating
- 9:08Speaker 1: to me to have that and to hold it.
- 9:13Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you called it. You're right. I start most
- 9:17Speaker 2: of my days mucking out there in the pan and
- 9:23Speaker 2: I always refer to it as a giant zen garden,
- 9:26Speaker 2: you know, like the little sand thing with the rocks
- 9:29Speaker 2: that you you know, I feel like my rake is
- 9:32Speaker 2: that is that rake in the sand, which is the arena.
- 9:37Speaker 2: And some days it's the best part of my day,
- 9:41Speaker 2: you know, even when I've got a big, exciting day
- 9:43Speaker 2: like today, it's you know, that's a great place to
- 9:47Speaker 2: start because it's everything kind of slows down, calms down.
- 9:52Speaker 2: It's just so peaceful, and I love being out there mucking.
- 9:56Speaker 2: And funny enough, one of the first seams in Euphoria,
- 10:00Speaker 2: the drug mules come in and basically, you know, they're
- 10:05Speaker 2: swallowing the stuff and they're they're pooping out the drugs
- 10:10Speaker 2: into a strainer and Chloe Cherry's standing there like, I'm like,
- 10:16Speaker 2: what's up with you? And she's like, I had an
- 10:18Speaker 2: accident and and I said, well, you better get to mucking.
- 10:22Speaker 2: As I go up the stairs and Stan Levinson is
- 10:25Speaker 2: such a just welcoming energy you feel like you can
- 10:30Speaker 2: do or say anything. And so I went up to
- 10:32Speaker 2: them in Video Village and I had a list of
- 10:34Speaker 2: ten lines playing on these girls pooping themselves, and he
- 10:39Speaker 2: was like, what's mucking. I was like, Oh, that's when
- 10:42Speaker 2: you pick up the horse poop, and he said, I
- 10:44Speaker 2: love it. I love it. Better get to mucking.
- 10:47Speaker 1: Oh my god. Would we would do that out in Ranchester, Wyoming,
- 10:50Speaker 1: and we would put it immediately inside the trailer that
- 10:52Speaker 1: we'd put behind the tractor, because as far as I
- 10:54Speaker 1: was concerned, we had to get it out into the
- 10:56Speaker 1: fields as soon as possible. But a lot of people
- 10:58Speaker 1: they see that stuff, oh and then run from it.
- 11:01Speaker 1: To me, that's part of the nature of being one
- 11:04Speaker 1: with the land as well as the animal, by going
- 11:06Speaker 1: in there, getting the stuff and then using it for
- 11:08Speaker 1: the energy that that you know that it's going to
- 11:10Speaker 1: give you.
- 11:13Speaker 2: Oh for sure. And you know, I feel like, if
- 11:17Speaker 2: you think horsepoop is bad, put some horsepoop next to
- 11:21Speaker 2: next to some dog poop and tell me which one
- 11:24Speaker 2: is in that beer. I mean, of course, the horses
- 11:26Speaker 2: are vegetarian, you know, the dogs eat meat and whatever
- 11:31Speaker 2: else they hell they put in that food. But I'll
- 11:35Speaker 2: pick up horsepoop over dog poop any day.
- 11:37Speaker 1: Yeah, what was there a special treat or anything like that?
- 11:40Speaker 1: Did you do apples? Because I mean, I mean Granny
- 11:41Speaker 1: Smith apples I love because it puts a sparkle in
- 11:43Speaker 1: their eye. But sometimes they'll sit there and they'll tell me,
- 11:46Speaker 1: don't do that. That's too much, that's too much of
- 11:48Speaker 1: a wow wow wow. Yeah.
- 11:52Speaker 2: I mean the apple's got a lot of sugar. But
- 11:54Speaker 2: I love giving them apples, especially if I got to
- 11:56Speaker 2: give them some medicine or something, I'll just pop it
- 11:58Speaker 2: in that apple and give it to them. And and
- 12:01Speaker 2: the old couple next door, they they always saved their scraps,
- 12:05Speaker 2: so I feel like, almost on a daily basis, they
- 12:08Speaker 2: got a couple of apples, a couple of carrots, a
- 12:11Speaker 2: little bit of lettuce, and and bring over this little
- 12:14Speaker 2: variety basket and uh, and the horses very much look
- 12:20Speaker 2: forward to.
- 12:21Speaker 1: I was going to ask you if everybody, all the
- 12:22Speaker 1: writers and even Sam, if they work with you guys
- 12:25Speaker 1: on the set, to find out if there if it
- 12:26Speaker 1: brings out your personality, because there's just something about this
- 12:29Speaker 1: show where it shows that everybody is getting it along.
- 12:32Speaker 1: And I just have this feeling that is because it's
- 12:36Speaker 1: your guys's personality. It's not like, oh, I'm gonna step
- 12:38Speaker 1: into a role.
- 12:39Speaker 2: The role is you. It is, it is. And you know,
- 12:44Speaker 2: everybody read for Wayne in the beginning of this and
- 12:48Speaker 2: Wayne played by Toby Wallace, my son and the show.
- 12:52Speaker 2: I think Sam liked both Toby and I so much
- 12:56Speaker 2: that he decided to write this role of Harley for
- 12:59Speaker 2: me and make it this dysfunctional father son duo. And
- 13:04Speaker 2: when you got I'm writing a role for you, it's
- 13:07Speaker 2: I mean, it's just a dream come true. But again,
- 13:09Speaker 2: he's just a master at casting characters and authenticity and
- 13:15Speaker 2: and yeah, I just feel like it's why he's such
- 13:17Speaker 2: a star maker, because he he brings these actors to
- 13:24Speaker 2: set that don't feel like actors and and and he
- 13:29Speaker 2: I mean, you know, we filmed it a set so
- 13:32Speaker 2: close to my ranch that I would ride my horse
- 13:34Speaker 2: to set and he was like, could you chase and
- 13:36Speaker 2: Diet down on horseback? And I said, well, I could
- 13:39Speaker 2: chase her down and roper And a month later there's
- 13:42Speaker 2: a whole sequence where I'm chasing her down and roping
- 13:45Speaker 2: her and dragging her back.
- 13:48Speaker 1: Just the whole thing fascinates me. It takes me back
- 13:50Speaker 1: to the days when I was in Ranchester and being
- 13:52Speaker 1: out there in the open fields of Wyoming. And maybe
- 13:55Speaker 1: that's my connection with you. For you is the fact
- 13:57Speaker 1: that it's like, my god, I'm so jealous of you
- 13:59Speaker 1: for being on that horse, and you're going to be
- 14:00Speaker 1: doing this, and it's like, it's got to be an
- 14:02Speaker 1: exciting thing for you to include all of that in
- 14:05Speaker 1: your in your own personal life into a story that
- 14:08Speaker 1: everybody else is going to go Damn, I want to
- 14:09Speaker 1: do that.
- 14:12Speaker 2: Oh man. Yeah, art really means a life on a
- 14:15Speaker 2: set like this, and and and yeah, I think Sam
- 14:20Speaker 2: Levinton is just so brilliant for it. But I had
- 14:23Speaker 2: the time of my life doing this, being a part
- 14:28Speaker 2: of this production. And and yeah, it's just I mean,
- 14:32Speaker 2: you'll you'll never have more fun on set than than
- 14:35Speaker 2: me and on Sam Levinson set. I promise you that.
- 14:37Speaker 1: You you said that Sam is a starmaker. And of
- 14:39Speaker 1: course all weekend we've been blasted with these stories about
- 14:42Speaker 1: the next level of Hollywood movie making is going to
- 14:45Speaker 1: be actors like yourself who have the storytelling ability. Did
- 14:49Speaker 1: you pick up anything from the production company that's going
- 14:51Speaker 1: to put you in that pair of slippers in the
- 14:53Speaker 1: way of being behind the camera.
- 14:57Speaker 2: Oh, I sure hope. So, you know, when we shout
- 15:00Speaker 2: the big bonfire scene, we were all standing around in
- 15:03Speaker 2: the empty pool, and it was Darryl brick Gibson, Zendaya,
- 15:08Speaker 2: Sam Levinson, and I and of course Darryl, being the
- 15:12Speaker 2: human that he is, He's like, man, you got to
- 15:14Speaker 2: make that story about growing up on the Indian reservation.
- 15:17Speaker 2: I was adopted by a Native couple and I was
- 15:19Speaker 2: the only non native to go to the tribal school.
- 15:22Speaker 2: And he's like, man, you got to tell that story.
- 15:24Speaker 2: Tell Sam about that story. And I start telling Sam
- 15:27Speaker 2: about that one, and then another idea that I have
- 15:32Speaker 2: that involves like sort of a cowboy in Thailand. It
- 15:34Speaker 2: seemed a little more up Sam's alley, and I was like,
- 15:38Speaker 2: you know what, I think you would like this one.
- 15:40Speaker 2: And next thing, you know, you know, Sam's just like
- 15:43Speaker 2: I love it, Like I would love to make a
- 15:46Speaker 2: movie like that. And I'm like, well you can, you
- 15:48Speaker 2: can have it. Let's call a twenty four, let's go.
- 15:51Speaker 2: So for me, I think that would be a dream
- 15:54Speaker 2: come true. To step into my writer producer shoes and
- 16:02Speaker 2: maybe have someone like Sam Levinson direct.
- 16:04Speaker 1: Oh my god, you said my favorite word, A twenty four,
- 16:07Speaker 1: because my god, I have seen A twenty four be
- 16:09Speaker 1: come from nobody to somebody, and my god, for you
- 16:13Speaker 1: to even bring that up is like our little baby
- 16:15Speaker 1: is growing up in the movie world.
- 16:19Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's amazing. You see A twenty four everywhere now.
- 16:23Speaker 2: I feel like they are changing the game and they
- 16:26Speaker 2: may have set the bar. And I didn't realize A
- 16:30Speaker 2: twenty four was involved in eu Fouri even before I
- 16:32Speaker 2: signed on, and these days it's the mark of something good.
- 16:38Speaker 2: So definitely a dream and hope to continue to develop
- 16:43Speaker 2: my relationship with A twenty four I've got.
- 16:46Speaker 1: I can't believe that these twenty minutes are up this
- 16:47Speaker 1: dang fast. And I was going to talk to you
- 16:49Speaker 1: about your Southern accent and thank you so much for
- 16:51Speaker 1: giving me that Southern accent, because so many people that
- 16:54Speaker 1: are in the acting and everything want to get away
- 16:56Speaker 1: from it. We need you to always give us that
- 16:59Speaker 1: truth when it comes to using your real voice or
- 17:02Speaker 1: you know, as Mark Twain would say, if you're not
- 17:04Speaker 1: using your real accent, you're not acting. You're not being you. Oh.
- 17:09Speaker 2: It makes it so much easier to sell into these
- 17:11Speaker 2: roles when you can just be you authentically and say
- 17:14Speaker 2: it how you'd say. And back home in Louisiana, they
- 17:17Speaker 2: think I lost my Cajun accent. And out here in
- 17:21Speaker 2: Hollywood and everybody's like, where are you from with that accent?
- 17:24Speaker 2: And even when I think I'm not doing it, I'm
- 17:27Speaker 2: doing it. And yeah, I'm grateful for it. My first
- 17:31Speaker 2: agent said, first thing you gotta do is lose the accent,
- 17:34Speaker 2: and now all they want is the accent. So we've
- 17:38Speaker 2: come full circle with that.
- 17:40Speaker 1: Wow, you got to come back to this show anytime
- 17:42Speaker 1: in the future. Please come back at any time.
- 17:46Speaker 2: Oh, I would love to. I would love to. I
- 17:48Speaker 2: feel like there's so much we could talk about. So
- 17:51Speaker 2: until next time, I'd say.
- 17:52Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today?
- 17:54Speaker 2: Okay, all right, brother, thanks for having me.
- 17:57Speaker 1: Thank you,