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Painting in the Heat, Dealing with Cigarette Smoke Smell, and Why the Trades Matter More Than Ever · Repcolite Home Improvement Show

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  Speaker 1: Hey everyone, thanks for tuning in. You're listening to Home
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  Speaker 1: in Progress by Repcolite Paint sponsored by Benjamin Moore, and
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  Speaker 1: this week on the show, we're going to be talking
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  Speaker 1: about everything, well, a lot of things you need to
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  Speaker 1: keep in mind when you're tackling a paint project in
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  Speaker 1: the heat, in humidity, because we're kind of dealing with
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  Speaker 1: that right now. We'll be talking about everything from the
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  Speaker 1: best times to start, the times you need to wrap up,
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  Speaker 1: some danger zone temperatures, and some things to look for,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll even be talking about bees. I mean, I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to go all over the place. I've got a lot,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of info that we're going to cover that's
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  Speaker 1: coming up. But right now, to start the show, let's
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  Speaker 1: talk about how to remove smoke smells from fabric and
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  Speaker 1: also how you can deal with cigarette smoke smell in
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  Speaker 1: a home. I started a series on dealing with smells
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  Speaker 1: in the home, I don't know, several months ago, and
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  Speaker 1: I've just been working through some common smells. You know,
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  Speaker 1: they can be really frustrating when your home stinks a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. It drives me insane. I feel like it's
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  Speaker 1: just it's sometimes it feels like it's irredeemable. You know,
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  Speaker 1: the smell is never going to go away. I always
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  Speaker 1: tend to overreact to almost everything, and smells are one
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  Speaker 1: of those things that really get to me. So I thought,
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  Speaker 1: let's deal with a lot of common smells. And now
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  Speaker 1: today I want to talk about smoke smells in fabric
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  Speaker 1: and also cigarette smoke, you know, in a home. And
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  Speaker 1: it get started. I want to circle back to something
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  Speaker 1: that I talked about a couple of weeks ago, when
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  Speaker 1: I told you how my daughter started a small fire
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  Speaker 1: in the microwave. You know, she was really little. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not going to repeat the whole thing, but she put
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  Speaker 1: a homemade you know, heat pack thing. It looks like
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  Speaker 1: something made by the Amish, you know, it's very homemade.
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  Speaker 1: I was a little denim pack, you know, and it
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  Speaker 1: was filled with cherry pits, which was really tough for
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  Speaker 1: me to think about, quite honestly. You know, when this
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  Speaker 1: arrived in my home after a visit to a flea
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  Speaker 1: market and I think shipshawana. I was told that this
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  Speaker 1: little bean bag feeling like thing is actually full of
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  Speaker 1: cherry pits. Like that was a bonus, you know, a
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  Speaker 1: plus and for me, every single time I used the thing.
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  Speaker 1: All I could picture was a family, you know, all
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  Speaker 1: gathering around because Grahama needed to bring more bags of
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  Speaker 1: these to the to the to the flea market. And
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  Speaker 1: so they're all sitting around with just gobs and gobs
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  Speaker 1: of cherries. And then they're on the porch chewing and
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  Speaker 1: spitting into a bucket, spitting the pits into a bucket,
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  Speaker 1: and somebody's gleaning them off. You know. That's all I
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  Speaker 1: could think. Every time I put the thing on my
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  Speaker 1: neck or something, I would just think, we're all of
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  Speaker 1: these in somebody's mouth somewhere. Anyway. That that bag thing,
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  Speaker 1: you would put it in the microwave for two minutes,
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  Speaker 1: it'd heat up like a little heating pad, and then
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  Speaker 1: you could carry it around no cords. That was its
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  Speaker 1: whole gig was that My daughter almost said her name
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  Speaker 1: on the radio. She would not have appreciated that, my daughter,
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  Speaker 1: she put that cherry pit bag in the microwave. Instead
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  Speaker 1: of for two minutes, she put it in for twenty minutes,
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  Speaker 1: added in extra zero, and then walked away. After about
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  Speaker 1: ten minutes or so, it started the smell like someone
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  Speaker 1: was baking a pie. And I remember thinking, Wow, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know who was baking a pie, but it sure
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  Speaker 1: smells good. About fifteen minutes later, that's when the smoke
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  Speaker 1: was starting to come out. And then by the time
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  Speaker 1: I noticed that and walked into the kitchen, there were
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  Speaker 1: flames in the microwave. I hauled it outside. I told
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  Speaker 1: you that last time, a couple of weeks ago, I
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  Speaker 1: threw it into the snow bank. I did all of
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  Speaker 1: that in my underpants. The kids thought it was hilarious
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  Speaker 1: because it was late at night. I didn't add that
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  Speaker 1: part in. It's not like I just sit around in
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  Speaker 1: my underpants in the heart of the day. You know,
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  Speaker 1: this was bedtime, and I did all of that anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Once we had done that, I had to clean the
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  Speaker 1: kitchen for days trying to get that smell out. And
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  Speaker 1: I talked about that. Uh. I talked about all the
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  Speaker 1: things that we needed to do, the cleaners that we
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  Speaker 1: needed to use, everything that I had to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: put that kitchen through in order to get that burnt
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  Speaker 1: smell up out. And in that episode, all I talked
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  Speaker 1: about was really pretty much the hard surfaces. If you
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  Speaker 1: do have an issue like that, it's not as straight
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  Speaker 1: up simple as you might think it is. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we watched everything and thought we'd be good, but the
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  Speaker 1: smell lingered, the stink persisted. There were certain things I
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  Speaker 1: need to do if you deal with that. It was
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  Speaker 1: two episodes ago. You can find it at Repcoli dot
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  Speaker 1: com and I'll walk you through everything to get the
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  Speaker 1: smell off of the hard surfaces permanently. But I didn't
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  Speaker 1: have time in that segment a couple of weeks ago
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  Speaker 1: to explain that. I also struggled to get that smell
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  Speaker 1: out of the curtains and the fabrics throughout the house.
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  Speaker 1: You know, as you can imagine, fabrics, they're like little
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  Speaker 1: odor sponges. So if you do have a minor fire
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  Speaker 1: on the stove or something like that, something like the
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  Speaker 1: microwave thing, you know, the cherrypit bag, and you've got
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  Speaker 1: that stink in the fabrics, first thing you need to
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  Speaker 1: do is to get those fabrics out. You know, take
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  Speaker 1: the curtains, the slip covers, you know, anything that you
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  Speaker 1: can get off, throw blankets, rugs, possible pillows, towels, all
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  Speaker 1: of those things and get them washed, you know, get
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  Speaker 1: them washed. You don't usually need some magic smoke removal detergent.
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  Speaker 1: Just start with your regular laundry detergent, Use the warmest
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  Speaker 1: water that the fabric can handle, and don't cram everything
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  Speaker 1: into the washer. You're not trying to get everything done
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  Speaker 1: on the first load here. You might have to do
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  Speaker 1: a couple of loads, so don't cram it full. The
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  Speaker 1: fabric needs room to breathe, right, room to move, so
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  Speaker 1: the soap in the water can actually pull the smoke
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  Speaker 1: residue out. Because smoke residue. We talked about that two
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  Speaker 1: weeks ago. It's not just it's not just a smell.
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  Speaker 1: The smell comes from particles, you know, that cling to
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  Speaker 1: all these different surfaces, and so you've got to get
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  Speaker 1: those surfaces and get them washed. So do all of that.
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  Speaker 1: There's an important thing that you need to remember. So
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  Speaker 1: let's just say you've washed everything, you pull it out.
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  Speaker 1: What you need to do before you throw it in
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  Speaker 1: the dryer is give it a good old sniff test.
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  Speaker 1: If it still smells smoky, you need to wash them again.
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  Speaker 1: Them Yet, if they smell smoky and you throw them
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  Speaker 1: in the dryer, the dryer heat can make odors much
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  Speaker 1: harder to remove. You know, they can almost nah, I
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  Speaker 1: can't say permanently set them in there, but they really
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  Speaker 1: lock them in there, So give it the sniff test.
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  Speaker 1: If there's a smoky smell, resh everything. Otherwise, then you
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  Speaker 1: can move it to the dryer. If it smells good,
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  Speaker 1: move it to the dryer. For carpet and upholstery, you know,
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  Speaker 1: things that you can't throw in the dryer, start by
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  Speaker 1: vacuuming thoroughly. You know, that's a good place to start.
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  Speaker 1: Smoke's gonna lead behind, like I said, those tiny particles
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  Speaker 1: soot ash potentially depends on how bad the fire actually was.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's going to lead behind residue and some
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  Speaker 1: of that material is just sitting in the fibers clinging
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  Speaker 1: to it. Vacuuming a first is going to give you
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  Speaker 1: a better starting point before you do anything else, you know,
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  Speaker 1: So before you add anything wet or scented or things
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  Speaker 1: like that, just give it a straight up vacuuming and
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  Speaker 1: from there you can, you know, maybe consider using baking soda.
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  Speaker 1: You know, baking soda is a mild odor of or
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  Speaker 1: orber and deodorizer. It doesn't clean the carpet in the
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  Speaker 1: same way a carpet cleaner does, but it can help
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  Speaker 1: trap and remove and reduce odors that are sitting in
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  Speaker 1: the fabric, so sprinkle it on, let it sit for
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  Speaker 1: several hours overnight if possible, and then vacuum it up thoroughly.
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  Speaker 1: There are specific ones that are really super scented for carpet.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I don't know that i'd use those right away.
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  Speaker 1: I've used those. They are powerful. There's a powerful, powerful
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  Speaker 1: smell there, and it might mask things for a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: You know, right in the beginning, you might think you
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  Speaker 1: solved the problem, when in fact you're just masking the problem.
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  Speaker 1: So I might, you know, be inclined to just go
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  Speaker 1: to regular baking soda, you know, without a non scented
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  Speaker 1: baking soda. Throw that on, let it sit overnight, then
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  Speaker 1: vacuum it up thoroughly. There are also other neutralizing products
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  Speaker 1: that can be used on carpet and upholstery. Odoban Odo
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  Speaker 1: b An it's a cleaner. You can find it online,
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  Speaker 1: probably at all kinds of different stores that sell cleaners,
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  Speaker 1: but for sure you can find it online. It markets
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  Speaker 1: products for smoke odors, and it lists carpet, upholstery and
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  Speaker 1: washable fabrics among the surfaces where certain products that they
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  Speaker 1: sell can be used. And I've watched a number of
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  Speaker 1: videos where they basically just missed it onto the surfaces
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  Speaker 1: and let it dry and it will neutralize the odor.
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  Speaker 1: It's not just a smell masker. It's going to neutralize it.
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  Speaker 1: If you're going to go that route, make sure the
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  Speaker 1: product's safe for the surface that you're using it on.
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  Speaker 1: Test it first in a hidden spot, and don't soak anything,
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  Speaker 1: you know, follow the label instructions to the t. But
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  Speaker 1: that's odaban. That's something to consider. The bigger point. If
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  Speaker 1: the smoke smell is light, you know, baking soda or
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  Speaker 1: fabric safe odor neutralizer maybe enough. If the smoke smell
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  Speaker 1: is really strong, you may need you know, actual carpet
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  Speaker 1: cleaning or upholstery cleaning. And if the odor has gotten
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  Speaker 1: into the carpet pad, you know, the cushion foam or
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  Speaker 1: the backing surface treatments may only mask the smell for
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  Speaker 1: a while, and those cases, replacement might be the only
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  Speaker 1: real fix. So that's dealing with, you know, some kind
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  Speaker 1: of you know, small scale fire in the home where
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  Speaker 1: smoke gets into the house. What about cigarette smoke. It's
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  Speaker 1: the same idea, but usually cigarette smoke is way way worse,
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  Speaker 1: way way worse to deal with. And we're gonna talk
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  Speaker 1: about all the things you need to do to hopefully,
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  Speaker 1: you know, get that smell out of your space. But
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna do that right after This Home in Progress
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  Speaker 1: is brought to you by Repcolite Paints and Benjamin Moore.
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  Speaker 1: You know, people often think of paint as just another
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  Speaker 1: line item on the projects supply list. But here's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: Everything you do, every hour of prep, every stroke of
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  Speaker 1: the brush, all comes down to the quality of the paint.
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  Speaker 1: The paint is the project. Make sure it's the best.
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  Speaker 1: Smoke smells are really pervasive, you know, really overpowering, and
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  Speaker 1: they can be really tough to eliminate. You're listening to
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  Speaker 1: Home in Progress by Repcolite Paint, sponsored by Benjamin Moore,
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  Speaker 1: and speaking of smoke smells, one of the worst ones,
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  Speaker 1: the most powerful ones, is cigarette smoke smell. You know,
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  Speaker 1: in a home, we've all walked into a place somewhere
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  Speaker 1: where the previous owners were smokers. Maybe it's a house
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  Speaker 1: you bought, Maybe it's a house you're flipping. Maybe it's
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  Speaker 1: a house you were looking at and didn't want to
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  Speaker 1: buy partly because of that. Maybe it's a parent's house,
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  Speaker 1: a grandparents house, and you're getting it ready to sell.
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  Speaker 1: If you've been there, you know how potent that smell
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  Speaker 1: can be and how big the job is. You know,
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  Speaker 1: if you've ever tackled it, how big that job is
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  Speaker 1: to try to get rid of it. You know, with
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  Speaker 1: a microwave fire like the one that we talked about
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  Speaker 1: last segment, you may be dealing with one event. You know,
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  Speaker 1: hopefully you're only dealing with the one event. Hopefully that's
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  Speaker 1: not a pattern for your kids. It's one time event.
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  Speaker 1: With cigarette smoke, you're probably dealing with months or most
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  Speaker 1: likely years of residue that's built up. You know, nicotine
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  Speaker 1: and tar can build up on walls, it builds up
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  Speaker 1: on ceilings. It yellows your paint. It can live in
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  Speaker 1: your carpet, in your drapes, in the cabinets, in the
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  Speaker 1: duct work, in the insulation, in the unfinished wood. So
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  Speaker 1: if you're dealing with that, it's a big deal. It's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of work. The steps are similar to what
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  Speaker 1: we've already covered, but it's way more aggressive and it's
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  Speaker 1: way more, way more all encompassing. First off, what you
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  Speaker 1: need to do is you've got to remove what you can.
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  Speaker 1: You know, let's just get it out and get it gone,
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  Speaker 1: old curtains, old carpet. You know, trying to get that
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  Speaker 1: carpet back to good depends on your situation. But if
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  Speaker 1: it's reasonable for you to just get it out, get
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  Speaker 1: the pad out, you might be better off. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be an easier battle for you than
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  Speaker 1: trying to make that old stuff smell good again. But
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  Speaker 1: old carpet, if you can get that out, go for it.
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  Speaker 1: Old blinds, anything soft that's holding the odor, just get
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  Speaker 1: rid of it. A lot of it's not going to
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  Speaker 1: be easy to clean, and it's probably, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: even with the carpet, it might not be worth the effort.
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  Speaker 1: For sure. With the smaller stuff, I can't imagine that
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  Speaker 1: it's worth the effort. Junk it now and get new
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  Speaker 1: if that's within your budget. So do all of that.
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  Speaker 1: First second, wash everything down, everything down, Wash everything down.
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  Speaker 1: It's not what we want to hear, but I literally
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  Speaker 1: mean everything. You know, walls, ceilings, ceilings, trim doors, cabinets, closets,
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  Speaker 1: inside drawers, light fixtures, fan blades, switch plates, outlet covers,
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  Speaker 1: pretty much anywhere smoke residue could have settled over all
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  Speaker 1: the years. Wash all of that down. It's incredibly all
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  Speaker 1: encompassing and it's really disheartening, but it will work. But
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  Speaker 1: that's what you need to do. And when you're washing
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  Speaker 1: everything down, you know that the natural question is what
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  Speaker 1: cleaner should I be using for this? And the choice
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  Speaker 1: of cleaner is really going to depend on what your
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  Speaker 1: goal is. You know, if you're trying to save the
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  Speaker 1: existing paint and avoid repainting, then you're gonna want to
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  Speaker 1: start mild, you know, so use warm water with a
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  Speaker 1: little dish soap, you know, down dish to urm. That'll
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  Speaker 1: work well. A gentle cleaner that's safer painted surfaces, something
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  Speaker 1: like that. Don't scrub very aggressively, don't soak the walls down.
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  Speaker 1: You know, if you're using something other than dawn, test
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  Speaker 1: it first in a hidden spot just to make sure
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  Speaker 1: that it's not going to cause a problem. You know.
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  Speaker 1: You may be able to reduce light, smoke odor that way,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and still preserve that paint job and avoid repainting.
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  Speaker 1: But if you've done all of that and the odor
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  Speaker 1: keeps coming back, you're probably going to need to just
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  Speaker 1: step things up and move towards an entire repaint. And really,
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  Speaker 1: if you're dealing with years of cigarette smoke, you know, yellowing,
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  Speaker 1: sticky residue. Most of the time, you should probably just
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  Speaker 1: assume that any cleaning you do is going to be
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  Speaker 1: part of a repainting process. And at that point, if
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  Speaker 1: that's what you're buying into that you're going to repaint
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  Speaker 1: the space. You're not really trying to preserve the old
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  Speaker 1: paint anymore. You know, you don't care what you're cleaner
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  Speaker 1: does to that. You're just trying to get that surface
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  Speaker 1: really clean, you know, so that you can get to
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  Speaker 1: a primer. And that's where a stronger cleaner, a degreaser,
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  Speaker 1: a TSP substitute, all of that can come in. But
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  Speaker 1: even then follow the label protect nearby surfaces, rinse thoroughly,
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  Speaker 1: and let everything dry before you prime. You know, cleaner
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  Speaker 1: residue can cause problems, just like smoke residue. Con So
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  Speaker 1: clean everything really well, you know, use a strong degreaser,
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  Speaker 1: a great cleaner, and then make sure that you rinse
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  Speaker 1: the surfaces really well before you move on. So that's
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  Speaker 1: the cleaning step. The next step, the third step is
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  Speaker 1: to replace your HVAC filters, and you might even want
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  Speaker 1: to consider having the ducts evaluated if the smell is
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  Speaker 1: really heavy, you know, talk to people who do duct
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  Speaker 1: cleaning and ask about what they do, you know, to
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  Speaker 1: handle a situation like what you're dealing with. Some of
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  Speaker 1: them are going to have deodorizers or neutralizers that they'll
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  Speaker 1: spray into the ducks after cleaning. How well do those work?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. You're just going to have to have
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  Speaker 1: those conversations and get the feedback that they give you
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  Speaker 1: and see if that's something that could, you know, alleviate
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  Speaker 1: some of what you're dealing with. But at least ask
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  Speaker 1: the question, you know, if you're dealing with a tough
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  Speaker 1: situation like this, it's worth making that call. After you've
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  Speaker 1: done all of that, you finally get to the paint steps.
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  Speaker 1: But you can't just paint over the smoke smell with
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  Speaker 1: regular paint. It's one of the biggest mistakes that people
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  Speaker 1: make in this process. They clean things up and then
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  Speaker 1: they roll on a nice new code of paint, and
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  Speaker 1: for a week or so, it looks better, it smells better,
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  Speaker 1: and then that stain or that odor starts coming back through.
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  Speaker 1: For smoke or nicotine, you usually need to use a
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  Speaker 1: true stain blocking or odor blocking primer after cleaning and
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  Speaker 1: before painting, and in many cases that's going to mean
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  Speaker 1: a shalac based primer like bin or a serious restoration
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  Speaker 1: primer designed specifically for smoke damage. One option to consider
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  Speaker 1: out there is Repcolite Zip Prime. It's an oil based product,
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  Speaker 1: so it cleans up with mineral spirits, but it's effectively
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  Speaker 1: going to block smoke stains water stains as well. If
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  Speaker 1: you've got that going on. It's on sale this month
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  Speaker 1: a Repcolite and we've got it in spray cans. And
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  Speaker 1: that's a little bit interesting because if you've got some
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  Speaker 1: water damage spots, you know, shifting gears a little bit here.
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  Speaker 1: If you've got water damage spots and you're looking for
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  Speaker 1: a quick fix, because those can't just be painted over
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  Speaker 1: with regular wall paint or ceiling paint either. You need
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  Speaker 1: to steal those in. If you've got a few of
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  Speaker 1: those on your ceiling and you don't want to break
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  Speaker 1: out brushes and rollers and all of that, those Zip
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  Speaker 1: Prime spray cans might be the perfect fix. So just
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: stop out at any Repcolite and ask about that. But
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: use the right primer, you know, that's really really critical.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: There are a lot of water based stain blockers out there.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: I would be really really hesitant to use something like
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: that in this situation. They will work in certain situations
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: and block certain stains, but when you're dealing with cigarette
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: smoke and the smell that that you know brings with it, tolerate.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: Just find a way to tolerate using something that's got
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: more older, like bin or something like that, you know,
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: ventilate well, but use the good stuff. It's going to
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: solve the problem. The other products might solve the problem,
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: you know, so just just weigh it that way. Now,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: once you've done all of that, you've got the right
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: primer on, it's dry, it's ready to go. And once
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: that's all done, you're ready for your finish paint. And
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: there's nothing special here, you know. Just get good stuff
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: you know that's appropriate for the situation in the areas
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: that you're painting, and get it applied, and once you've
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: done all of that and it's dried, you should be
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: well on your way, you know, to having solved this problem.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: The big takeaway here is that with cigarette smoke smell,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: primer isn't step one. Don't make that mistake. Primer isn't
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: step one, it's actually step four. You've got to remove
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: what's holding the odor. You've got to ventilate and filter
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: the air. You've got to wash and rinse all your surfaces,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: and then you prime and then you paint. And one
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: last thing to think about when dealing with smoke smells
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: of any kind, You've got to know when the problem
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: is bigger than something you should diy. You know, if
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: there was an actual fire in the house, you know,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: in contrast to the small microwave fire that we had,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: if you've got visible soot beyond one small area, heavy
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: smoke in the HVAC system, things like that might be
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: worth bringing in a restoration company. So keep all of
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: that in mind. Last thing I guess I've got is
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: just remember the following things, and that should help you
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: if you ever deal with this. Smoke smell sticks around
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: because smoke leaves something behind a residue, and you can't
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: solve a residue with fragrance. You solve it by finding
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: the residue, cleaning what can be cleaned, removing what can't
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: be cleaned, filtering the air, and when it comes to
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: walls and ceilings, using the right primer before you repaint.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: If you go through all of that and there's still
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: this lingering smoke, smell odor. Before you start just fragrancing everything,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: ask yourself a simple question about where that residue could
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: still be hiding. You know, remember that residue is what's
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: causing the problem. Where could it be. There could be
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: some some area that you hadn't even thought about that
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: just needs to be cleaned really well, and that's going
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: to get it gone. So try to find where it's
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: localized and try to work your way through it. It's
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: not fun, but it can be done. You can get
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: there all right. It's been crazy hot for the last
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks and we get a ton of questions
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: from people wondering if they can still paint outside in
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: weather like this. And that's good. The questions are great,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: but there are many more people who don't ask anything.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: They just go out and paint. And while that's okay
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: you can do that, there are a number of things
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: that you need to know so you get it right.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: We're going to talk about all of that right after.
• 19:13
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• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Paints and Benjamin Moore. Think about it. You spend hours prepping, sanding, taping,
• 19:20
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• 19:23
  Speaker 1: with an inferior product. The paint isn't just another supply.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: The paint is the project. Make sure it's the best.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: How do you feel about the heat that we've been having?
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: And that's a real question. I mean that because some
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: people really like it. You're listening to Home in Progress
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: by Repcolite Paints, sponsored by Benjamin Moore and yees. Some
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: people really like the heat. I mean. I was in
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: a meeting the other day and one of the guys
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: in the meeting, there's like five of us in there,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: you know, and one of the people in the meeting,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: you know, says, well, looks like it's going to be
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: in the low eighties for a couple of days, just
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: like that, just like that. And all of us slowly
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: looked at him and said, you sound disappointed. That doesn't
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: make much sense. You sound disappointed. He was. He was disappointed.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: He loves the heat. The hotter, the better. Well, I
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: don't know what to say about that, because it makes
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: zero sense. In my mind. I can't think of anything
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: that is more fun in crazy heat than something that
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: we could do in the low eighties, even swimming, you know,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: get it. But he loves the heat. How about you?
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Have you been enjoying the heat? Well, regardless of how
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: you feel about the heat, one of the things that
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: the heat brings about is slightly you know, more complicated
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: painting conditions, and often that leads to questions. You know,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: people want to know if they can still paint in
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: weather like this. But as I mentioned at the end
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: of last segment, there's also a large group of people
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: who don't ask. They just go out in paint and
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: potentially they can run into trouble. So I know I've
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: talked about this before on the show, but it's kind
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: of an important topic when the weather heats up. So
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: I really do need to deal with it for a
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: little bit just to give you the info that you need.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: So that's what we're gonna do. And here's the scoop.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: You can paint in weather like this, Yes you can.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: It's okay. People do it all the time. You don't
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: need to put your projects off until spring or fall.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: But and this is a really big butt. This is
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: a big butt. You have to work with the heat.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: If you do that, you're fine. If you work like
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: it's a normal, you know, seventy five degree day in May,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: the heat's going to cause a lot of trouble for you.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: So the big thing to start with in all of
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: this talk is the difference between air temperature and surface temp.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Now many of you completely know this, but it is
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: something that people get wrong all the time. They check
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: the weather app or the thermometer and they see that
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: it says eighty five, eighty eight whatever. Then they look
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: on the can, you know, the paint can, and they
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: see that the range for painting is, you know, anywhere
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: often from thirty six degrees to one hundred degrees. It'll
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: say that right on the can. Benjamin Moore has plenty
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: of products that say paint from thirty six degrees, thirty
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: seven degrees, thirty eight degrees, all the way up to
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: hundred degrees. And people see that and they figure we're
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: good to go. You know, we're not even close to
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: one hundred degrees. But that number on the app is
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: the air temperature, and the paint doesn't just care about
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: the air temperature. In fact, the bigger issue or the
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: concern is the surface you know, the actual siding, your
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: material that it's going on a surface that's been baking
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: in direct sun. Can run a ton hotter, a lot hotter.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I was an English major and I just said it
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: runs a ton hotter. It runs much hotter than the
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: air around Like lot hotter was better somehow in my
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: head that sounded better, but both are kind of bad.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: It runs significantly hotter than the air around it. The
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: surface can be much hotter than the air around it.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Fifteen any degrees hotter isn't unusual. So your aps is
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: eighty eight, but the south wall that you're about to
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: paint could easily be one oh five, one ten or more.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: That's the problem. And why does that matter. It matters
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: because when you put paint on a surface that's too hot,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: it dries almost the instant it touches. Now, that sounds
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: kind of good. You know it's fast drying, right, But
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: that's it's not good. It's not good at all. You
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: can't blend your edges before they set, so you get
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: lap marks, you know, those visible streaks when one pass
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: overlaps the next. You get all of that. The paint
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: can bubble, it can blister. Worst of all, it doesn't
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: get the chance to grab you know, or hold onto
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: the surface the way it needs to, so your adhesion
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: can suffer and a job that looked fine in July
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: can start letting go, you know, really quickly down the road.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Sometimes it's a year or two, but it can be
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: quicker than that, all because the surface was too hot.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: So how do you beat that? How do you work
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: with the heat? You know, like I said, you've got
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: to work with the heat. How do you do that? Well,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: here are a few tips. First off, start early, but
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: not not crazy early, you know, not insane early. That's
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: the key in extreme heat. You want to get going
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: of course before the siding or the trim or whatever
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: you're painting has had all morning to bake in the sun.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: But early morning also brings dew a lot of the times,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: and de can be problematic. You know, you can't paint
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: over a damp surface. So the rule is start early,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: but only after the dew is burned off and the
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: surface is dry. So whenever that is, that's when you
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: can start. Then once you get started, thinks strategically. You know,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: if one side of the house is going to get
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: hammered by the sun first and it's dry and it's
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: still reasonably cool out. That may be the place to start.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: You know, you're trying to get that area painted before
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: it turns into a griddle. But be smart about it.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: If the sun's already on that wall and the surface
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: is starting to heat up fast, you might need to
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: skip it and come back to it later. You know,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: if you plow ahead, you're not beating the heat anymore.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: You're painting on a hot surface, and that causes you know,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: can cause any of the problems that we talked about earlier.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: So you've got to be strategic now after that. You know,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: once you get going, you know, you figure out which
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: which place on the house to start first, you know,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: before the sun really starts, you know, cooking. But once
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: that starts, now you need to chase the shade. But
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: of course what I'm talking about here is you know,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: and we all know this, but I have to say
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: it because it's radio and there is there is one person,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: at least one person out there who this is going
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: to be news to, or at least they're not going
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: to have thought of it. Sometimes I'm that person, so
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: that's why I over explain sometimes. But I want to
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: be careful and I want to be safe and cover everybody.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: You're chasing the shade. But that doesn't mean that the
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: second of wall or surface slips into the shade, it's
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: automatically ready for paint. Right. We know that that surface,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: if it's been in the sun for a while, you know,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: three or four hours, it's going to hold on to
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: that heat for a while. Right, So just because you
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: see shade doesn't mean that you can just jump right in.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: So the better rule is this, don't just follow the shade,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: follow the cool shade. You know, work on surfaces that
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: are dry, of course, dry shaded and not overheated. Sometimes
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: that means painting on the side of the house before
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: the sun gets there, like we talked about in the beginning.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Sometimes it means waiting, you know, till the sun leaves
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: that side for a little bit before you get started.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you're painting sides of the house not in order.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like you're working your way from start
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: to finish. Maybe you're jumping around whatever you got to do.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: You know, just finish sections, don't don't quit in the
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: middle of a section. Finish sections and then just keep
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: following that cool shade around the house. Also, one other
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: thing to consider. You know, if this is new to you,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: if you're jumping into a big project, you haven't done
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: a lot of it, you know, you're not a pro
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: at it. You might want to consider just picking up
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: an infrared thermometer. If you've got one, great. If you
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: don't just get one, they're really inexpensive. You'll use it
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: for a ton of different things around the house anyway.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, you'll find all kinds of fun things. To
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: figure out how hot it is. You'll just be sitting
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: in your chair scanning stuff, you know, just pointing at it.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Oh that's how hot the TV is? Now? Oh how
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: about this? How about that? You know, how cold is
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: the air coming out of the vents when the air
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: is running. You're gonna do all of those things. You're
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: gonna have so much fun. It's gonna be the best, well,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: not the best, but it's gonna be pretty good. Nineteen
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: bucks you've ever spent. So pick up one of those
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: things and they'll take all the guests. Work out of
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: what you're doing on this exterior painting thing. You'll point
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: it at the wall, pull the trigger, and you're gonna
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: get the surface temperature. And if it's in the range
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: that you can work. You know you're good to go.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: You know, there's no more guesswork. You're not wondering. You
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: know you're good to go. So keep all of that
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: in mind when you're working and when you're getting ready
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: to start working, and then when it comes time to
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: quit at the end of the day. We've got to
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: think about the dew again. You know, as the sun
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: goes down, surfaces are going to cool off, and if
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: they cool enough overnight, you can get dew forming right
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: on your fresh paint before it's had time to set up.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: And that's a problem as well. So don't paint right
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: up until dark. You know, you've got to give yourself
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: a cushion a few hours of daylight after you finish,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: so the paint can firm up and cure a little
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: bit before the evening damp and dew starts to roll in.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: So there you go. That's all solid for getting the
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: paint on the house when you start, when you quit,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: how you go about doing it, and working in those
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: hot temps, that's really good. But the heat isn't just
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: hard on the paint, it's hard on you. It's hard
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: on your painter. If you've hired it out. So drink
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: way more water than you think you need, wear a hat,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: you know, where sunscreen some of you, some of us
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: me included, we need as much sunscreen as there is.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: You know, we need the highest level of protection because
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: we burn to a crisp instantly. You know, think about that,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: keep all of that in mind. I probably don't need
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: to say it, but again, there's probably one or two
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: people who are on sunscreen. That makes sense. Wear's something breathable,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: take breaks in the shade, you know, rest and when
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: you do take a quick break, you know, here's a
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: quick tip for you. Just drape a damp cloth over
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: your paint tray or your bucket. It's going to keep
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: a skin from forming on the paint while you're resting
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: and relaxing in the shade. It's going to keep bugs
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: and leaves and junk out of it as well. So
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: that's just just a damp rag draped over it. That'll
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: be great. Speaking of bugs, this is complete. I mean,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: this is going to be a tangent to maybe beat
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: all tangents. But speaking of bugs, when you're working outside,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: be ready for bees, you know, hornets, so on. You know,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: all of those horrible things that a lot of people
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: really don't like. I mean not many of us like
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: hornets and stuff. But just be aware they're going to
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: be there. They're going to be there all over the place.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: My son, he's an exterior painter, and one of the
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: interview questions when he got the job was literally, how
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: do you feel about bees? Are you allergic to beestings?
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: And it's funny that the year that he was hired,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: he said, of course, everybody on the crew said they're
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: cool with bees. You know, bees don't bother me. I'm
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: pretty chill, you know, no worries here. Bees don't freak
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: me out, not even a little bit. You know, everybody
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: said that, And yet he said that whole summer as
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: he's working, there were a couple of people routinely running
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: around the house screaming and swatting at the air. You know,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: he's on a ladder and you hear screaming and you
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: look down and there's just people running past you, and
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: they're all running from bees and things like that. So bees,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: they're going to be a thing you encounter. If you're allergic,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: be ready for that, or don't get involved with this,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: or do whatever you need the dude to be safe,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: but just be aware they're going to be there. And
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: I know this sounds a little bit silly, and maybe
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: it is. Like I said, this is a big time tangent,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: but I'm a parent, and parents are trained by experience
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: to think through about like forty different possible outcomes, and
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: that's just that's being mild. We think through way more
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: possible outcomes when we see things happening. And the first
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: thing that comes to mind to me when I'm thinking
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: about bees while you're painting outside is that you're often
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: going to be on a ladder. Remember that, you know,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: stay cool when the bees come. It's easy to forget
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: where you are and have a freak out, but remember
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: you can't do that when you're on a ladder. And
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: remember bees smell fear, So stay calm and work your
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: way down the ladder carefully if you need to, but
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: don't melt down twenty feet above the ground completely. Don't
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: need to say that, I don't know, just feels like
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: the parent in me to remind you that's what's going on.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: You know, this is the reason my mom, for example,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: could never ever do this work, never ever ever. If
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: she's on a ladder and bees are coming, She's jumping. Period.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: The twenty footfall is nothing in her mind compared to
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: the threat of a bee sting. If she's holding your
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: ladder and a bee comes, she's gone again. Good luck.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: You're on your own. She's got to be to deal with.
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  Speaker 1: When we were growing up, we would have picnics, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we'd go to little parks and stuff, and we're all
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: sitting there, all this little kids munching on whatever, peanut
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: butter and jelly and sucking down you ohigh sea and
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, purple grape drinks and stuff
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  Speaker 1: like that, and all of a sudden, Mom and her sisters,
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  Speaker 1: you know, my aunt's stir screaming hysterically and running in
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  Speaker 1: circles all over the place, almost banging into each other,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: diving all over the place, grabbing up small children and running,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: sometimes using the children to beat the air. Now, they
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: didn't do that. That's how it plays in my mind
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  Speaker 1: now that I think back on it. But I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: that didn't happen. But they would run around freaking out,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: and it was always always bees. So if that's you,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: this job exterior painting of your home might not be
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: for you. You know. I know that's got nothing to
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: do with painting in the heat, but it's so real,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: so I wanted to say it. And Andrew, my painter kid,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: he encounters bees every single day and he's just got
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: a gut through it, you know, as they're bouncing around
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  Speaker 1: his hands or off his face. Keep it in mind
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna encounter that. Be ready for it. All right.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Where in the world was I before I bailed? All right?
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: If you do the work yourself, that's kind of where
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: I was. If you do the work yourself, keep all
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: of those things that I just talked about in your
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: in mind, you know, be prepared for him. And if
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: you do hire somebody, keep them in mind. You know,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: set out cold waters, point them to a shady spot
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: to take a break if you can swing. Letting them
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: cool off inside in the air conditioning even better, goes
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: a long way, and it's crazy appreciated. At one of
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Andrew's recent jobs, the homeowner brought out a cooler of
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: cold pop and water and the whole crew loved it,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: you know, And as they were leaving, the people were
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: sending them with pop and water for the ride home.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Andrew came home with a root beer that he later
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: used for a roop beer float while he was watching
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: the tigers. He was so happy about that. Little things
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: in life pleased him. But that homeowner, if they could
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  Speaker 1: know how much joy they brought just with that can
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: of pop, probably make their day. It's not going to
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: bring your bill down, but it goes a long way,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: and the crew is going to be grateful for your kindness.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: All right. Last thing, in this kind of weather, especially,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: use a quality exterior paint that's actually built for temperatures
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  Speaker 1: like these, something like Benjamin Moore's Exterior Aura, Exterior Regal,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Benjamin Moore's element Guard, Repcolites, Endura. All of those are great.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: You know, they've got some overlapping strengths. Some of them
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: have different strengths, but they're all going to be really good.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Or for example, it's great for coverage, color retention, Endua,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: element Guard Regal, they're going to be great at color retention.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Element Guard is rain ready in about an hour. So
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: if you paint and then one of those pop up
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: afternoon showers that we've been getting rolls through sixty minutes later,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: or if you quit and you know later than you
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: probably should have and do forms. Just an hour later.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: You're fine with element Guard, You're protected. It's great. So
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: get the right product. Painting in the heat, it's doable.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Just keep all of those things in mind and you
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: should be good. If you've got any questions at all,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: stop out of your closest for Repcolite and will help.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: All right, that's enough of that now this week, this
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: past week, I had something really crazy happen at my house.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: It was a little bit sad, but my son, the electrician,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: was the hero, and I want to talk about that
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: and talk about the value of the trades in the
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: last little bit that I've got where you get to that.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Right after this, you're listening to Home in Progress, where
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: the projects are real, the mistakes, they're educational, sometimes painful,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: mostly educational. And the only thing more stubborn than that
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: old wallpaper on your bathroom wall is your determination to
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: get it fixed, probably sponsored by Repcolite Paints and Benjamin
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Moore Paint with a purpose, people who care and everything
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: you need to get the job done right. So I
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: had an interesting experience on Tuesday. I left for work
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: around six thirty in the morning and there was a
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: spentt truck and a crew working across the street at
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: a neighbor's house. You're listening to Home in Progress by
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Repcolite Paints, sponsored by Benjamin Moore. Okay, so that's all
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: going on. A couple hours later, I get a text
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: from a neighbor the smentt truck has hit a power
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: pole and that ripped the power line off my house
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: and bent the mast, you know, the middle pipe that
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: carries the line down into the house. So I headed home.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: There were power lines in the yard, the mast was bent,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: the boot where it goes through the roof was damaged.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: It was a mess. It was a mess. And then
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: comes the phone calls, you know, the power company, insurance,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: the cement company, and electrician trying to figure out who
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: fixes what, who pays for what. I just knew I
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: wasn't going to you know, who pays for what, and
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: how fast everything can happen. It's hot outside, I've got
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: ice cream that's melting in a freezer that's not working.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: This is go time. It's an emergency. The biggest stress
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: from all of it came when the power company was
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: finally ready to reconnect my power and they looked at
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: the bent mast and they said, hey, we can't hook
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: this back up, or at least it's probably not best
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: until an electrician fixes that. Well, thankfully, my kid is
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: an electrician, and I'd already called him to come and
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: take a look, and he pulled in right about the
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: time the power company was telling me that. In the end,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: he fixed it while they waited, and about an hour
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: and a half later, the mask was repaired. The power
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: company hooked everything back up, and we were back in business,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: and my ice cream was re you know, solidifying, getting
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: to perfect ice cream, you know, texture. It was all
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: good looking back on it, you know, it all worked out,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: But while I was living it, it was chaos. I
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: didn't know who to call, I didn't know who was responsible,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: I didn't know what had to happen first. And when
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: I found out that this wasn't something the power company
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: could fix, that I needed an electrician for it, I
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: was really, really, really thankful that I had somebody there
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: who understood the problem, knew the fix, and could handle
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: it calmly. You know, the amount of stress that disappeared
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: when a skilled trades person showed up and knew exactly
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: what to do was real, crazy, real, And that's happened
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: in my life over and over and over and over
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: plumbing problems. I had a water heater that failed, like
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: the day or two before Thanksgiving. A local plumber came
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: out charged me a reasonable price. I was so happy
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: to pay that price and fixed it. His skill saved
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: the day. When I was in school, going into the
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: trade was kind of thought to be a poor path.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: You know, we were all encouraged into four year college
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: programs so we could do, you know, important work. Maybe
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: that's not the case anymore, I guess, I don't know
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: for sure. It certainly was when I was in school.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: The trades were not smiled on. You know, that was
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: just not the where, not where you went if you
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: really wanted to be somebody and do something. And now
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: I think some of the people I'm most grateful for
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: in the whole world are plumbers, electricians, car repair techts, painters, roofers,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: you know, people who can come in see a situation
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: that's blowing my mind and offer a solution. It's incredibly
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: important work. And right now we continue to deal with
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: a lot of skilled tradesmen and trades women retiring and
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: not enough people to replace them. So if you've got
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: kids or grandkids, or nieces or nephews approaching college age
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: and they're wondering about their futures. The trades. It's an
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: incredible place to start. You know, it's not for everybody,
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: but it can be a great career. You know, we
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: talk a lot, you know, maybe not on the show here,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: but in our circles. We talk about technology, jobs, AI,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: the future of work. You know, it's all over the news.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: But here's the thing. The future still needs somebody who
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: can wire a building, fix the furnace, install the plumbing,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: frame the house, repair the equipment and just keep everything running.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Here in Michigan, the state says skilled trades will account
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: for more than five hundred and twenty thousand jobs, with
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: about forty five thousand openings every year through twenty thirty.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: So talk to your kids, your grandkids, nieces, nephews, whatever.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Encourage them to consider the trades. If they're unsure about
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: what they want to do. You know we're gonna need them.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it. Remember we have a
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: car show scheduled at our Lakewood location for next week, Saturday,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: July eighteen, from eleven to two. You can find out
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: more about that. On our Facebook page, or just call
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: the Lakewood store at six one six three nine three
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  Speaker 1: zero zero two five. That's six one six three nine
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  Speaker 1: three zero zero two five. All right, whatever you do today,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: make pain to part of it. Have a great weekend everybody,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: and I'll see you next week for Home in Progress.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: I'm Dan Hanson. Thanks for listening.