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Inside The Birds Week 12 Pregame Show With Greg Cosell: Philadelphia Eagles Vs. Dallas Cowboys · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to Inside the Birds Pregame Show. I'm Jeff
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  Speaker 1: Mosher with Adam Kaplan and of course, when it's an
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  Speaker 1: Inside the Birds Pregame show, you know, we got Greg
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  Speaker 1: Cosela to help us break down the tape of the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles and their opponent as we preview a very big
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  Speaker 1: matchup here. Week twelve, Philadelphia Eagles heading down down southwest
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  Speaker 1: to play their rival the Dallas Cowboys in what is
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  Speaker 1: probably a more interesting game now then maybe we might
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  Speaker 1: have thought it would have been a couple of weeks ago.
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  Speaker 1: And without a doubt, the one thing I think we
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  Speaker 1: both can all three of us can agree on is
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  Speaker 1: these teams are a lot different now than when they
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  Speaker 1: first met Week one. They've been through their fair share
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  Speaker 1: of injuries, they've been through their fair share of changes,
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  Speaker 1: and both teams coming off wins. The Eagles at eight
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  Speaker 1: and two atop the NFL see right now with an
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  Speaker 1: impressive win over back to back wins really over the
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  Speaker 1: Packers and Lions last week, and the Cowboys with their
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  Speaker 1: new look, they improved, we shall say the Cowboys did.
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  Speaker 1: They improved to four or five and one with a
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  Speaker 1: thirty three to sixteen win coming out.
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  Speaker 2: Of the buy over the Las Vegas Raiders.
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  Speaker 1: So I'd like to start off this conversation just with
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  Speaker 1: getting both of your guys takes, Adam and Greg on
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  Speaker 1: the significance of this matchup now compared to what we
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  Speaker 1: might though it would have been a couple of weeks ago. Adam,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think the Cowboys may have whatever they may say,
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  Speaker 1: the division is still within reach.
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  Speaker 2: They're just trying to make the playoffs with all the.
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  Speaker 1: Moves they made, but it's becomes an interesting game for
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  Speaker 1: them if they're able to win it.
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  Speaker 2: As far as that seventh that last seed in the NFC.
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  Speaker 3: It's funny you said, because I was on with Mike
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  Speaker 3: Gill on Friday, and that's exactly what we talked about,
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  Speaker 3: because if you look at their schedule the rest of
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  Speaker 3: the way, good luck if you lose this game for
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  Speaker 3: the Cowboys, right they host the Chiefs or really desperate
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  Speaker 3: to save their season. The Lions all sorts of injuries.
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  Speaker 3: They they got it. They gotta win like they're desperate.
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  Speaker 3: The Vikings are totally desperate. The Chargers after that terrible loss,
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  Speaker 3: you know in Week sixteen, then they play the Commandos
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  Speaker 3: and Giants. But so they I'm not saying they have
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  Speaker 3: to win out if they lose this game, but there's
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  Speaker 3: a ton of pressure on them that they know they
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  Speaker 3: have to win this. They're not the greatest home team
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  Speaker 3: in the world. They've made all the funny Jeff, you
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  Speaker 3: mentioned both teams. Both teams have made significant trades. It's
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  Speaker 3: it's really wild how a couple of players on the
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  Speaker 3: Eagle side and getting some guys back from injury of
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  Speaker 3: taking this defense up. And for the Cowboys, I want
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  Speaker 3: to get Greg's opinion. They went from starting two DT
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  Speaker 3: to three and what that front looks like. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: there's been a lot of change.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of change.
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  Speaker 1: And of course, Greg, if the Eagles win and they
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  Speaker 1: get to nine and two, not only will that perhaps
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  Speaker 1: silence a few critics because it's been a couple of
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  Speaker 1: rough weeks for them from public perception, but also nine
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  Speaker 1: and two with a I guess at that point it
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  Speaker 1: would be a five game lead over Dallas. With two
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  Speaker 1: wins over Dallas, and then you're looking at, you know,
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  Speaker 1: six games left. I mean, you pretty much wrap up
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  Speaker 1: the division. And remember the historical milestone here. No NFC
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  Speaker 1: East team has ever repeated as division champs. Since the
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  Speaker 1: three four Eagles.
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  Speaker 4: That's a long long time it is.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, obviously, you know, you always hate to say things,
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  Speaker 5: as Adam said, like, well, it's their season, but in
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  Speaker 5: many ways it is the Cowboys season because of the
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  Speaker 5: toughness of their upcoming schedule. They have a game against
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  Speaker 5: the Eagles, which will be a physical game, that's the
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  Speaker 5: way the Eagles play, and then they've got a very
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  Speaker 5: short turnaround to play the Chiefs. Now, granted both games
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  Speaker 5: are at home, but these are two very difficult games.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm sure they're not looking ahead because they can't
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  Speaker 5: afford to be doing that. But this this will be well,
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  Speaker 5: you know, it's funny. I watch. Obviously they played the Raiders,
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  Speaker 5: and I know there's people probably listening who will say, oh,
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  Speaker 5: it's the Raiders, you know, and you know what, obviously
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  Speaker 5: the Raiders are not very good.
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  Speaker 4: We know that.
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  Speaker 5: But I came away a little bit surprise impressed with
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  Speaker 5: the Cowboys on both sides of the ball. Now, again,
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  Speaker 5: if people want to say, oh, it's the Raiders, fine,
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  Speaker 5: but we'll get into it in more detail. They actually
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  Speaker 5: have some pretty good players. That defensive front is a
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  Speaker 5: pretty interesting front now, particularly at the detackle rotation. So,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I still think there are some concerns the
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  Speaker 5: revel the rookie from East Carolina played for the first time.
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  Speaker 5: He's going to play more. So we'll get into the details.
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  Speaker 5: But they looked and offensively. The main thing with them
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  Speaker 5: is can their own line hold up, because if it can,
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  Speaker 5: they've got a lot of skill players. Yeah, fascinating matchups
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  Speaker 5: in this game.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Adam made the point about the three defensive
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  Speaker 1: tackles the Cowboys have, which is weird. They went into
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  Speaker 1: the season with only one that people might consider good
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  Speaker 1: and that's oh see O'deghizoa. But when I watched the
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  Speaker 1: tape greg of that game against the Raiders, I felt
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  Speaker 1: like I consistently saw some pretty good middle push that
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  Speaker 1: allowed edge rushers to get some opportunities. It reminded me
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  Speaker 1: of how the Eagles rushed the passer. When they rush
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  Speaker 1: with either four or five, they get a middle push
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  Speaker 1: that makes it hard for the quarterback to step up,
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  Speaker 1: so it enables the edge rushers to get around and
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  Speaker 1: there were a few times where Houston or Fowler or
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  Speaker 1: Ezrakuh were able.
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  Speaker 2: To kind of get to Smith because of that middle pressure.
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  Speaker 5: Well, we'll get into more of the detail of it,
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  Speaker 5: but you're talking about you mentioned Odeghiezua, who's a good player.
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  Speaker 5: Now they have Williams and they have Clark. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: that is a very interesting, you know, trio trifect as
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  Speaker 5: it were. And you know, they don't all play at
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  Speaker 5: the same time necessarily. They'll play some snaps of five
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  Speaker 5: to two, but they play a lot of four to
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  Speaker 5: three as well, so all three guys are not always
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  Speaker 5: on the field together. But that's a really nice rotation.
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  Speaker 5: And believe it or not, there's a player who I
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  Speaker 5: really liked coming out of UCLA, just one of those
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  Speaker 5: things from watching tape who gets snaps named Jay Toya. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: he's a fascinating guy. He's big and he's got light
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  Speaker 5: feet and he gets thirteen eighteen snaps a game.
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  Speaker 4: He's part of that rotation.
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  Speaker 3: Jeff, how much has changed this week? One DeMont Clark,
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  Speaker 3: who started it was a good talent player. They cut
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  Speaker 3: ye off. I mean, it's really remarkable. Jerry Jones and
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  Speaker 3: he you know, he likes to blame everyone because the
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  Speaker 3: run defense was terrible, so he's overdoing it. With like
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  Speaker 3: Quinn Williams, Kenny Clark. It's we'll see, we'll see. You
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  Speaker 3: may give a four point year seven yeards per carry
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  Speaker 3: for the season. But it's just funny because you as
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  Speaker 3: he set this up, which is interesting. They've changed, Eagles
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  Speaker 3: have changed a little bit, but Cowboys, I mean significantly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, let's let's widen the lens just for
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  Speaker 1: the fun of it too. Even prior to Week one,
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  Speaker 1: maybe a week or a week before Week one, that's it.
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  Speaker 1: Coming out of camp, Michael Parson's gone, right, So now
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  Speaker 1: Dallas since that time has added Kenny Clark, They've added
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  Speaker 1: Quinnin Williams, They've added Logan Wilson, right, They've gotten Shavon
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  Speaker 1: Ravel to play, as Greg was just mentioning, and the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles have gotten Jail and Phillips.
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  Speaker 2: They've had Zadarius Smith come.
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  Speaker 1: And go in between Pram, They've had Michael Carter, they
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  Speaker 1: had Jay Rri Alexander come and go. So it's amazing
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  Speaker 1: how many people are on both of these teams that
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  Speaker 1: weren't just one week going into the season, and it
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  Speaker 1: makes for a fascinating matchup.
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  Speaker 2: And Adam, you know.
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  Speaker 1: There's far much more at stake for the Cowboys and
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles. Eagles lose a game, they're gonna have to
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  Speaker 1: deal with it from a fan standpoint, but in the
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  Speaker 1: standings they're still in a good spot. Cowboys lose the game,
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  Speaker 1: Like you just said, this season could be done. But
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  Speaker 1: it almost feels like, while the Cowboys do have that
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  Speaker 1: pressure on them, just from an internal delaware value, what
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  Speaker 1: the narrative has been around the Eagles lately.
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  Speaker 2: A loss is not gonna be good around here. I
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  Speaker 2: mean it's good.
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  Speaker 4: But here's the thing. I'm just being honest with you.
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  Speaker 4: I know how it works in buildings, They're not gonna
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  Speaker 4: care what the fans think.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, no, I don't. Yeah, I know that.
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  Speaker 4: In social media, Yeah, one of the things that Syrian
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  Speaker 4: does a great job of.
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  Speaker 3: We could all come up with some criticisms with how
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  Speaker 3: the offense has been managed, but in terms of team building,
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  Speaker 3: Nick learned a lot from twenty twenty three from the
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  Speaker 3: failure and the collapse. He does a great job of
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  Speaker 3: managing problems.
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  Speaker 4: Even if they lose.
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  Speaker 3: The w ip and the fanatic could cry and make
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  Speaker 3: you know, they'll find some new controversy, but the bottom line,
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  Speaker 3: as the guy wins. We talked about the quarterback, they
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  Speaker 3: win together, we understand what the player wants a coach.
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  Speaker 3: If they lose, it's I can be a big deal.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, they owner the tie breaker over the Rams,
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  Speaker 3: the Bucks Packers, They're still.
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  Speaker 2: In the driver's seat.
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  Speaker 1: I think a loss would just bring sort of the
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  Speaker 1: avalanche of question about who they are, especially if they
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  Speaker 1: lose the way we yeah, like if they were to lose,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, twenty one to twelve or thirteen, then
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  Speaker 1: we look bad.
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  Speaker 4: Sure, then you're gonna go, what's going on? Sure?
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  Speaker 5: But you obviously I don't have not been looking at
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  Speaker 5: my social media and my Twitter.
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  Speaker 4: Feed because I'm sorry, dude, I know they crush you.
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  Speaker 5: According to that Nick Siriani doesn't know anything about football.
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  Speaker 4: Really, I didn't know that. Okay, yeah, is that breaking? Okay,
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  Speaker 4: thank you.
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  Speaker 5: By the way, that's what I'm being told, he doesn't
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  Speaker 5: know anything about football.
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  Speaker 4: But what is let me say question today?
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  Speaker 5: Can the passing game?
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  Speaker 4: Oh?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: The concept?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, he doesn't know anything about football.
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  Speaker 1: So did you guys know the Eagles are playing their
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  Speaker 1: eleventh must win game of the season, by the way.
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  Speaker 5: Right right, right?
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  Speaker 4: Wait? Do fans really fit? That is?
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  Speaker 3: As I peruse social and I see what the what
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  Speaker 3: what's on the what's in the crawl of fans? Do
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  Speaker 3: they think this is a musk game other than the Cowboys?
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  Speaker 1: Because no, I'm just kidding, because every time the Eagles
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  Speaker 1: lose a game, it's.
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  Speaker 4: The end of the world. So yeah, no, it's like
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  Speaker 4: fourth and one. Yeah, I get it.
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  Speaker 1: I got all right, cock, Let's let's get into the
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  Speaker 1: This is a very rare game in which we can
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  Speaker 1: say the opponent is healthier than the Eagles. Now, the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles are in good shape, but obviously the big issue
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  Speaker 1: for them going into this game and beyond guys, is
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  Speaker 1: Lane Johnson being out with the Liz Frank's brain. He
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  Speaker 1: is the only player I believe on the fifty three
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  Speaker 1: listed is out. So then, and we've known about that.
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  Speaker 1: So Fred Johnson is in, and I guess Matt Pryor
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  Speaker 1: is in if it's going to be.
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  Speaker 2: Kim Jurgens is questionable.
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  Speaker 1: He was a full participant in practice on Friday, so
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  Speaker 1: everything is trending the right way.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean, I won't see it right now.
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  Speaker 4: It's vital medical clearance before they fly on Saturday. Correct,
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  Speaker 4: that's it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he needs independent neurologists to clear him. He took
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  Speaker 3: all the ones. So that's a great sign. Means he
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  Speaker 3: feels good. And as I told you earlier this week,
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  Speaker 3: despite the speculation, more players are coming back earlier from
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  Speaker 3: concussions that I could remember within the seven days, it's
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  Speaker 3: it's it's just whatever better treatment guys are being on,
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  Speaker 3: whatever the case may be.
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  Speaker 4: That's soak.
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  Speaker 3: Cam's fine, by the way, the knees off the injury,
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  Speaker 3: but that's a big deal because that look, he's not
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  Speaker 3: they physically if you look left or right. We know
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  Speaker 3: Dickerson's been dealing with different injuries. Dragons with the surgeries,
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  Speaker 3: Dickerson with the surgeries, he seems a first year starter,
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  Speaker 3: Lanes out he had the shoulder stinger issue. My lot
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  Speaker 3: does not play at the usual high level. There's a
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  Speaker 3: reason why. And run the pest pro still been pretty good.
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  Speaker 4: But Jeff, as we sent it back to you, we know.
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  Speaker 3: It's not just Barkley, but they're run blocking and they
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  Speaker 3: physically if not look right, that the entire city. They
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  Speaker 3: don't have to be on the introvert by the way
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  Speaker 3: to not be playing well.
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  Speaker 1: Right, and that yeah, that goes to the Cam. Jurgons
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  Speaker 1: he might be able to play, and maybe i'd be fine,
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  Speaker 1: but just going back to last week prior to leaving,
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  Speaker 1: you can just tell. And we brought this up on Inside.
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  Speaker 2: The Tape with Greg Gosale where we broke some things down.
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  Speaker 1: Even when he's playing and considered quote unquote healthy, he
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  Speaker 1: is not playing like the Pro Bowl version that he
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  Speaker 1: was last year. And that's not a criticism or a knock.
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  Speaker 1: He just looks physically different as far as making certain
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  Speaker 1: angle blocks, getting to the second level, being explosive for
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  Speaker 1: a center has not been there all year long. And
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  Speaker 1: you know that is the big question when you're going
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  Speaker 1: up against the Dallas team that now has three pretty
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  Speaker 1: good interior defensive linemen that we'll get into when.
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  Speaker 2: We talk about offense.
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  Speaker 1: But Greg, I'm sure from an injury standpoint, it's good
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  Speaker 1: to have Jurgons back. But again, this is not like
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  Speaker 1: talking about twenty twenty four Cam Jurgons.
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  Speaker 5: No, he hasn't looked that way for basically most of
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  Speaker 5: the season. So, yeah, it could be an injury. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: I know he's back with an issue for quite a while. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: that just doesn't really very often. Again, I'm not a doctor,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know his exact situation, but backs very often
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  Speaker 5: don't just totally go away right. So again we don't know.
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  Speaker 5: But if he took all the ones and he gets cleared,
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  Speaker 5: as Adam said, he's gonna play right.
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  Speaker 1: The issue with the back, to my knowledge just from
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  Speaker 1: talking to different people, is and we don't know what
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  Speaker 1: surgery had.
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  Speaker 2: It certainly depends on what it is.
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  Speaker 1: But if if you have a few if you have
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  Speaker 1: a fusion type surgery, whether it's a lower disc or
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  Speaker 1: an upper disc, that that is a a restriction of
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  Speaker 1: your range of motion that can never that doesn't come back.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like two years later you get you and
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  Speaker 1: you may know people who have back surgery and they
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  Speaker 1: kind of have to rotate a little bit differently because
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  Speaker 1: of the fusion. That's just something that becomes part of
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  Speaker 1: your lifestyle. And if that's the kind of back surgery
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  Speaker 1: Jurgens had, I don't know that he did, so I'm
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  Speaker 1: not I'm just relating what I know about.
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  Speaker 4: Specifics are tough.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you know, you look someone like Sam Laporta
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  Speaker 5: now who's got it back, and I saw today that
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  Speaker 5: he's got a very slim chance of returning this year.
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  Speaker 5: You know, backs are a tough deal.
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  Speaker 4: Back surgery. He's having a procedure. I think to that, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I think you had it yea.
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  Speaker 1: And to go back to Lane, who's going to be out,
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  Speaker 1: you know, indefinitely. We'll see when he's back with the
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  Speaker 1: Liz Frank Adam. That's the kind of injury that's I
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  Speaker 1: guess it's extra difficult because there's not a lot you
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  Speaker 1: can do while you're shelved up with it. There are
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  Speaker 1: some injuries, you might break an arm. You could still
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  Speaker 1: keep your conditioning because you can get on a treadmill,
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  Speaker 1: you can right, you can bike. But with a Liz Frank,
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  Speaker 1: to our understanding, even after a surgery or even when
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  Speaker 1: the swelling, there's not a whole lot you can do
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  Speaker 1: to get your keep yourself in shape when you have
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  Speaker 1: that injury.
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  Speaker 3: It is because you can't be on your feet. So
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  Speaker 3: it's there's you could sit down and left, but it's
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  Speaker 3: it's a tough deal.
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  Speaker 4: Man.
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  Speaker 3: Your Lane, he's you know, he turns thirty six June.
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  Speaker 3: I think he's you know, he's had a number of injuries.
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  Speaker 3: He's super dead.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, father time does catch up everything.
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  Speaker 4: Man, You've like, I don't know how Jackie Slater did it.
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  Speaker 4: Greg I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Did he play to.
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  Speaker 5: He's forty something like that? Jack, ridiculous number of years?
• 14:15
  Speaker 5: Was it was it Matthews? I think yeah it was
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  Speaker 5: it was the Matthews.
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  Speaker 4: Oh oh the father? Did Clay the father? Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: Bruce Bruce played.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Bruce the tackle yeah Bruce as well?
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  Speaker 1: Right right, hey, you know, just while we finished off injuries, because,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, everybody else in the fifty three, the
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  Speaker 1: only two other guys who are even considered questionable are
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  Speaker 1: Miles Hinting and Jurgons. And I mean, I'm sorry Miles
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  Speaker 1: Hinting and Willie Lampkin, who would doubtfully play anyway, but.
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  Speaker 4: I are yeah, they have to be activated, right, It.
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  Speaker 1: Did have to be activated, correct, was the one thing
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  Speaker 1: that really jumps out to me. Greg, And I'm curious
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  Speaker 1: if you've had the same thought too. I mean, we're
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: not doctors, but I can't I can understand why Dickerson
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: and Jurgons and father time with Lane Johnson. Jordan Malatta
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: also has not been twenty twenty four version all the time.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: He's had some strange penalties.
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: He's been beaten a few times, and that's the one
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: that's sort of puzzling to me. Where it makes me
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: wonder because continuity and communication up front is so big
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: if the other stuff going on the offensive line just
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: impacts him that way, and.
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: That's possible because cohesion is such a big deal. You
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: know when I go to the all line masterminds and
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: I hear all these all linemen talk about cohesion being
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: such a major deal working with your guy next to
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: you and all working together as a group of five.
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: You're not an individual player. So we don't know the
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: answer to that. But there's no question he has not
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: had the same year this year.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: All right, Cowboys adam very healthy team for the most
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: part year.
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that they've been the other one. Yeah.
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: The Malie Hooker returned last week. He's he's he played,
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: you know, he'd been out for a while. Trayvon Jags
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: will not be playing. I don't know he'll play again
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: for them. With the strangeness of the concussion at his home.
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: I know some of the reporters are locally are questioning it.
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: But that's you know, that's the Cowboys.
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: Clowny is the big one. Shoulder and neck issue. He
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: didn't have a full practice this week. But you know
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: the one thing is though, that's a position that they
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: have some depth. And Devon Azaraku, you know who we
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: all liked.
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: He's a factor now, Williamstown, New Jersey's finest Devon Sam Williams. Yeah,
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: they got some guys.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, Williamstown, New Jersey. Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah yeah, they're they've got a nice little
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: I like the fact they have a good core of
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: veterans to go with the young guys. I mean they
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: bring in they still have Dante Fowler. Yeah, I'll give
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: you some snaps.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: Of course.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: Jadavian Clowney is one of those guys as a situational
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: pass rusher at this point of his career could still
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: give you thirty of the snaps and clause pressure. But
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: then they have the young guys like Ezraku, like Williams
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: and James Houston.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: Greg is he is he? Where did he come from?
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: You know, he was the guy with Detroit, you know,
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: for a couple of years and he showed.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: Up on tape.
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: I mean he's he's an odd guy because he can
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: rush the quarterback, but you know he's not really dealt
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: with as if. Wow, we got to get this guy
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: because he's a really good pass rusher, right, but every
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: time he shows up as a pass rusher, you know,
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: so he's he's an interesting guy.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: He was the one guy that kept jumping out when
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: I was watching.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Their game against the Raiders and again against the Raiders,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: that I kept having to go back to the to
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: the the roster to look at them.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: I'm like, who is this fifty three?
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: Had a lot of injuries, you know, it's a shame
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: Detroit really could use.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: They never should have let him go. I as simply
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: waived him. I don't remember exactly, but this guy's I
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: remember talking to the lines years ago. They felt like
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: their personal staff felt really proud because they found this guy.
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no longer they're Unfortunately.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: You remember him coming out of college, Greg.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: I do not.
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: I don't even know where he went to college.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: I was gonnay that it's a rare guy that like
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: alludes you from your college to you.
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: No, I did, Like I said, I could look him
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: up now, but I don't remember when he went to college.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't either.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: So, but yeah, he's been a nice little find for
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: them and that gives them that just adds to their
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: past rush. He probably plays on the edge as much
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: if not, you know, like right around there with Clowney
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: and with Ezraraka at this point.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: Yes, so by the way he played. He started at Florida,
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: so I'm curious if he was a big time recruit.
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: But then he transferred to Jackson State and was a
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: sixth round selection in the twenty twenty two draft by
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: the Lions.
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: Heard a lot that was and then they cut him.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: He he Cleven claim rom off waivers. Cleven didn't didn't
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: bring him back for twenty five and oh he over the.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: Highly recruited guy.
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: He went to American Heritage School, which is a big
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: time high school in South Florida, and it said that
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: he had offers from Wisconsin, South Carolina, Michigan, and Miami.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: He's a smaller guy, that's that's part of why.
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he knows Jackson State, so he doesn't have height
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: and length.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder was he recruited as an off ball
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: linebacker or.
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: Arm length is really good? It's thirty four and a quarter.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: That's interesting, six to one. Jeez.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like Wisconsin, if he went there, he
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: would have.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: Been an off ball six and a quarter.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, his tape is pretty good. He certainly has
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: some juice. When they put him in Ezraku on the
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: field together, it gives them a little extra lightning on
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: the edges.
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: He by the way, I mean he had a thirty
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: nine inch vertical. I mean this guy is not a
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: bad athlete, just based on testing. And he plays pretty
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: quick too.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: So the challenge to me if we go back to
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: the first game and what the Cowboys did do well,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: not a lot of things, but they ran the ball
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: fairly well against the Eagles. But the Eagles have since
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: clamped down on the run. They've been much better. It
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: looks like Jill and Carter is healthier. He doesn't seem
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: to be favoring his shoulders.
• 19:53
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• 19:55
  Speaker 2: But yeah, that's a great point and he's playing. Thank you,
• 19:57
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  Speaker 1: So the challenge I think for the Cowboys will be
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: they have this great prolific passing game, number one passing
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: game in the NFL.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: But we've seen this.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: You know, teams come in and play the Eagles and
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: they get a little bit in their heads on the
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: pass rush, and you know, you have to think that
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Brian Schottenheimer release will try to keep the balance. I mean,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: they do like to run with Javonte Williams, right, Greg.
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: I'd say there's a couple of things that really stand
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: out to me on this side of the ball. Number.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: When the Cowboys do have a very good offense, the
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: key thing I think will be their O line, which
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: has been up and down. And everybody's going to focus
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: on the matchup of Terrence Steele versus Jalen Phillips. So
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: the question is how will they start that out? The
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: Cowboys I'm speaking to, will they feel that they have
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: to line up a tight end next to steel. Will
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: they feel that in pure pass situations they need to
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: chip or double team. Those are things that you'll look
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: for right away to see because if you have to
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: do that, then you lose whoever that is as a
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: true primary route runner. Obviously, if that person truly stays in,
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: you totally lose him. Even if it's a chip, then
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: he's he may not be a primary route runner. So
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: that's number one. Then I think there's some really fascinating
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: matchups here in the secondary because George Pickens has lined
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: up at boundary X, meaning the single receiver to the
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: short side of the field, more than any wide receiver
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: in the National Football League. And we now know that
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: quinny On Mitchell is the boundary corner for the Eagles,
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: So you're gonna get the Pickens Mitchell matchup pretty much.
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: It won't be on every snap, obviously, Pickens doesn't line
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: up at boundary X on every single snap, but that's
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: who he is in their offense, their boundary X, so
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: that matchup is fascinating. Then even look to the inside
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: because Ceedee Lamb, who does line up both inside and
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: outside because the Cowboys do play a good amount of
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: twelve personnel where Lamb would be an outside receiver, but
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: when they go to thirteen, Lamb does become a guy
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: that lines up inside. He's a movement guy. You know,
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: are you going to get the Cooper Deujene Ceedee Lamb
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: matchup inside? You know if the Eagles and the Eagles
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: have played a good amount of man, so you're going
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: to see these matchups. They're pretty fascinating matchups, particularly the
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: Pickens Mitchell matchup, because Pickens again, we know, I mean,
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: I'm not I don't don't care what kind of guy
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: he is, you know, I know people talk about that
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: maybe he's not a great guy, but he is a
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: really good receiver, and you could easily make the argument
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: he's a top five receiver in the league just on
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: pure talent.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: He could run and he goes and gets it. There's
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: a guy that I remember when we talked about him.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: I don't remember if you did him his tape in college.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: But this Ryan florinay kid Floros, a kid is playing.
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: He's playing a lot. What year did he come out?
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Two years ago?
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: I think out of Southwest Missouri State, if I'm not mistaken.
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: In twenty twenty three draft.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Florinoy was last year. Actually yeah, out of South you
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: got it right, Southeast Missouri state. Yeah, he twentys a
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: great job. What's that twenty twenty four draft? Yes, six
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: round pick. Yeah, he came out it like that's a
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: great job of scouting. Yeah, that there was a good
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: basket who can did? Where did that was?
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: Andrew Tony Southeast Louisiana. There was a But there's a
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: player the.
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: NFL, Ryan Florinoy coming out.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: Okay, but he's he's he plays, man, he he plays
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: sometimes when they go eleven, Greg, I mean it's oh no,
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: he plays a lot.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: So he's over.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: He has overtaken Jalen Tolbert as that outside receiver when
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: they move Lamb inside.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: Yes, okay, what does FLOROI look to you? Like to
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: you on tape?
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: You know, FLORINOI is a guy that I don't notice
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: a ton I mean he's you know, because I look
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: more at Lamb and pickings. But he plays. So I
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: don't have a great answer, but he plays. You know,
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: he's sort of become their third receiver.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Are they still an alternate team that goes between eleven
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: and twelve? Or are they a little bit more heavier
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: one way lately than the other.
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: The Cowboys, I'll tell you that in a second, because
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: you know, I think they play a good amount of twelve,
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: but they don't play like a ridiculous amount of twelve. Right,
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: So yeah, they're twelve personnel this year has been seventeen
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: percent of their snaps, so they're sixty five percent an
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: eleven personnel. So they're still heavy. The word i'd use
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: is probably predominant. They're predominant eleven personnel offense.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: That's shoddy anyway. That's he did the same thing in Seattle. Yeah.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like he must have given Schoonmaker a
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: shot early and then it just didn't happen and he went.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: It had worked for the point of the Schoonmaker. Jeff,
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: I just remember being shocked and he went in the
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: second round. I think a lot of people around the
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: league were he's kind of like an athletic why, but
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: he's a why and you don't really draft wise in
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: the second round.
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: By the way, I just happen to pull out my
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: qu on Mitchell evaluation coming out of Toledo. Yeah, so
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: my last line was overall, Mitchell has all the needed
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: traits to develop into a high level NFL outside corner,
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: and I expect he would come off the board in
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: the first round.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: Now, did you have now one thing?
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: Okay, since you brought it up, as you know, Greg,
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: because we talked about this with you when we were
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: doing draft coverage. The one problem that clubs had and
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: I understand he was at the Senior Bowl. We played
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: some man there, but that's you know, that's not a
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: lot of experience. Did you have any problem with the
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: lack of man coverage for him?
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: Straight up? Well?
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the bottom line is is he rarely
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: played it. He was an off coverage corner at Toledo.
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: So you know, it's funny with guys like that because
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: of his physical traits, you think he can do it.
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: You just didn't see it. It doesn't mean he can't
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: do it. Sure, you didn't see it, right, So you know,
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: in my weakness and it wasn't a weakness per se,
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: but I said, we'll need to improve playing press man
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: because he didn't do very much of it, and therefore
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: he wasn't great at it, but he certainly had the traits.
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: I mean, that was I mean, my first line is
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: Mitchell is one of the most athletically gifted corners in
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: the twenty twenty four NFL Draft, with his desirable size, speed, physicality, competitiveness, profile,
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: I mean, everything is there.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: It's like, I'll give you an example. It's like Caleb Downs, Okay,
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: who's likely to be a top ten, top twelve picket
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: safety you know, from Ohio State, and he doesn't play
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: He's not asked in Matt Patricia's defense, to play much
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: man coverage, but he clearly has the physical and athletic
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: traits to do so, you know. So you know, so
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: all you can say is you didn't see him do it.
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: You're not going to say he can't do it. Sure,
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: you know, he just doesn't asked to do him very
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: much of it.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: And that's why Jim Naggie told us Greg he came
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: on our show and he's, now.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: What's going to go to He's at Oklahoma Okay, Okay,
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: he's a GM there.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: But when he ran the Senior Bowl we had Jim on,
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: he said, look, clubs wanted to see him play corner.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, I want to play man because for him
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: to be a first round pick, he's going to have
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: to show it.
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: Now, he did. It is interesting. It is Toledo is
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: the MAC.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: You could debate how good that that conference is, but
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: his tape was so smooth and and and Jeff I
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: said it back to you.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: He's not just one of the best young corners of
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: the league.
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: That's one of the best corners, one of the best
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: corners that that's that's going to be a fascinating matchup,
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: really fascinating matchup.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: I think he's making a very very I mean the
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: very least Pro Bowl. I think he's making a very
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: strong case for All Pro. And I don't want to
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: get too far ahead of myself, but the season continues
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: the way it has for the last few weeks, and
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: the Eagles keep winning these low scoring games and they
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: make it to the super Bowl. I mean, that's how
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Patrick's retain won Defensive Player of the Year last year
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: on a team that had a struggling offense. And there's
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: certainly an argument that will be able to be made
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: for Quentin Ya Mitchell to be in that discussion. This
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: is a heavyweight fight this week. This is yeah time,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: first pick this is Pickens issues.
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: And we'll get the matchup because Pickens is the bat.
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: You know, it's not one of those where, gee, might
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: we get it five times or you know, we're going
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: to get it.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to get.
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: It probably twenty plus times in this game where they're
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: head to head.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: And if I'm not mistaken, that's how it went week one.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: They got Jackson week one and they got Jackson. Got
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Jackson pretty good. We'll see what happens.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: So that's that's a good talking point for some Whatever
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: they did conceptually on offense, they were able to get
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb matched up against adri Jackson in week one,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: so they must have either had him outside or used
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: a lot.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: Of O.
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: Shot. He's he's a good cord I mean, I know
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: he's the head coach, but it's his offense. He's a
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: good coordinator. I mean, he knows how to run an offense.
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: This will be interesting.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: I mean the.
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: Cowboys, when I watch their tape, you know, the key
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: thing is protection because Prescott basically at this point in
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: his career, he is a pocket quarterback. He's a ball distributor.
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: He's an executor. That's what Prescott is at this point,
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: and he's good at it, you know. But obviously it's
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: there's two things going on here with the Eagles defense
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: number one, Phillips has given them a quicker pass rush
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: because most of their pass rush prior was not quick wins.
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: It was a function of coverage more than the rush itself.
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: They weren't getting quick wins. They were getting secondary sacks. Yes, okay,
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: Now with Phillips they can get quicker wins. But it
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: always goes together, and they do such a good job
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: on the back end with even in man. You know,
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: a lot of teams now because I've been studying this
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: and I've read some really good quotes by some coordinators
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: when they ask good questions and they give good answers,
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: that there's a lot of sort of hybrid coverages now
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: where teams might play man on the outside, you know,
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: match the outside play zone on the inside, you know,
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: play man on one side, zone on the other. There's
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: a lot of hybrid coverages. It's not like it was
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: years ago where I just pop on the tape and go,
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: oh yeah, that's cover three. You know, that's this, that's
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: that you know, And to be honest, there's times I
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: have no idea because you know, they're doing multiple things
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: on the same play and I'm not in their meetings.
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: So I don't know how it's coached. I don't know
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: what they're asking guys to do. But teams are definitely,
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: you know, not every play. Obviously, some plays, Hey, that's man,
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: it's obvious, you know. But there's a lot more and
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: the Eagles are really good at this. And the one
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: thing the Eagles do, which is why linebackers and safeties
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: are so critical in Vic's defense, is they make adjustment
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: on every play. It's almost the Nick Sabman thing. You know,
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: there's an adjustment on every play.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: They don't just line up and play.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Right right now.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Hey, Hey, I wrote this on Philly Voice and after
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: watching the last two games rewatching them on defense, and
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: I think it's obviously it's very accurate and fair to say.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: The addition of Jalen Phillips has really made such a
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: huge impact in the Eagles pass rush and has allowed
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Vic Fangio to do more on the back end and
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: what he wants to do. But I don't think we
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: can talk enough about the impact of Nikobe Dean as.
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: A pass rusher.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: I agree with Dad on the ultimate four man rush.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: This guy has blown up in the past two weeks.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs and David Montgomery. And he's also gotten past
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: some pretty good guards in this league one on one
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: when it's when when you know if they're protecting that way.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: To cause pressure.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: He is.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: I know, he doesn't rush the passer twenty times a
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: game like Jalen Phillips. But his win rate over the
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: last two weeks enormous.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: That's incredible.
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: I mean, look, we did some research and I'm going
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: to grab my notes here.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, I like it. Adam Gregg's got some research this.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would like that. It's gonna be fun.
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: My Eagles defense notes.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: They got so many notes because this is this is
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: what I do.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: You're not a chef.
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: I didn't know that. No, no, no, no, I do
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: that my spare time.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: Oh the last.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Day, he's in the kitchen. You mean he's watching film
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: now right right?
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: So over the last five games, past five weeks, the
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: Eagles have allowed opposing quarterbacks to complete only fifty five
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: point two percent of their passes in today's NFL. That
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: is like in the old days, guys completing twenty five percent.
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: You know, I mean, this is that's remarkable. I mean
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: you should just look to see how many guys are
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: like sixty nine percent plus in the league this year.
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: So if you're allowing fifty five percent, that's crazy, you know. So,
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: I mean that's and that's a function of like I said,
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: how they make adjustments literally on every play. They don't
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: just line up and play.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and right by what I got some not too.
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: That's great as Dean has been, you know, just the
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: physical part. We spoke about this last week about why
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: he plays and Campbell plays last. The mental part is
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: a really critical piece here. That's the other reason he's
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: playing twice as many snaps as Campbell.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: Now, awesome.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Here's some stats I compile greg that are probably in
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: the same timeframe as you. Since Week five, Egles allowed
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: eighteen point eight points per game.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: That's six.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Their opponent completion percentage is fifty six point four like
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: you mentioned, that's that's like twenty five percent in the
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: old days, right. Passer rating against them is seventy seven
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: and a half. That's second best. Opposing opponents are converting
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: third downs at a forty two point four percent clip.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: That's tenth yards for play, five point oh nine, top ten,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: so they are and touchdowns per game is two.
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: Exactly here's one more which is really good. Last five
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: weeks I did at the study in the last five weeks. Yeah,
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: last five weeks, yards per passive tenth, which is a
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: stat that a lot of people look at it, including
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: the league, not just you know, media and fans. And
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: six point six over the last five games, which is
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: really excellent.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: Wow, they want to be under seven. That's the that's
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: the line. That's really excellent. Yeah. Yeah, if you're under seven,
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: that's what that's what your goal is.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: By the way, last three weeks, yards allowed per play
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: not just pass per play is four point sixty eight.
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: That's crazy.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's they're they're I mean, they're.
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: The defense is playing at a really high level. This
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: will be a challenge for sure. It's on the road,
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: and you know, the other factor is that the Cowboys
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: do have a balanced offense. I mean, they they're they're
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: more of a passing team than a running team. But
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: they're not just let's toss it all over the r
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: team by any means. You know, Javonte Williams is a hard,
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: hard runner. This year, he's looked more like he did
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: when he came out of college in North Carolina. When
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: I loved his tape because he was so physical and
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: competitive and well, you wouldn't call him juicy. He's not
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: slow in plotting by any means. Sure, So you know,
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: they do have a combination offense. They Ferguson's a solid
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: tight end, not necessarily a vertical guy, but he's a
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: good player. They you know, like I said, they don't
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: play a ton of twelve. But but scoon Maker is
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: not a bad tight end at all. So there's a
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: lot of weapons here on the on their offense, and
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: I think the key issue will be pass protection very much.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: So do you think I know, you said the offensive
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: line hasn't been great all year, but.
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: They've also been up and down. You know, Yeah, it's
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: been up and down. I think Steele, you know, I know,
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: he's been there for a number of years, and I
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: think they paid him a couple of.
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: Years ago of acl.
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he's one of those guys that you know,
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: in one on one pass protection in any given game
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: that can be a bit of an issue.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: And I think.
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: Phillips that that, to me is going to be fascinating
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: because what will the Cowboys do if Steele struggles?
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Great question, They're going to have to protect him. If
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: he does, you.
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: Don't have a pass me, you can't protect It's that.
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to flip the other side of the
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: ball real quick.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean, I mean we've we've talked someone.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: We did talk a little bit about not having lane,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: about the offensive line and in general what this pass offense.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: But look like I do, I feel like we're getting
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: to a now or never point on at least trying
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: to do some different things conceptually. I'm not saying going crazy.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, we know they run the third least amount
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: of emotional league, the fourth least amount of play action.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: But add another thing, like at some point you can't
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: just rely on but we win games and you've got
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: to at least open it up in a way or
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: change a little bit of your.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Route concepts and designs. Yeah, so you're not comfortable, like uncomfortable.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: See what happens?
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: Well, here here's the thing.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: I know the Cowboys at front should be improved with
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: after the trades, but their secondary.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: Is they're being torched.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, if you look at yards per play, you
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: look at a lot of metrics that teams use. Yeah,
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: yards per pass at ten seven to nine is bad.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: Fourth most passing yards. They gave up worst arts per
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: target the National FOOTB League over ten it's terrible.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: Seventeen that's right, by the way. Seventeen touch downs just
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: the receivers. Jeff, I'm not I'm not.
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: Gonna be the one to sit here and say, boy,
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: this is a really good defense. But they've got better
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: people now. They had a major rotation at linebacker. It
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: was very interesting because now Logan Wilson is there. The
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: rookie James is a pretty interesting guy. I did him
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: coming out of Florida. He's very athletic. He's getting more
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: snaps and Revel is going to be Is it Revel
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: or Revel? I think it's revelvn Right. I think I
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: think it's Revel. I did him coming out in the
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: four games he played last year before he got hurt.
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: I even went back and looked a little bit the
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: year before. He's a really interesting player. He played fourteen
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: snaps this week. That what what they did when they
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: brought him in. See what they do when they're when
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: he's not in Okay is Bland is their boundary corner.
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: Carson was their field corner, and they played Stewart as
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: their slot. When Revel came in, Bland moved inside to
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: the slot where quite frankly, he's better because he's not
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: very good on the outside. And I know they paid
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: him a ton of money because he had that big
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: year of interceptions, but he's really not that good a
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: corner on the outside and he's better in the slot.
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: So I would expect Revel to get more snaps, just,
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: you know, just from watching tape. Again, I don't know
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: their plan. I don't know what happens during the week.
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: I don't know anything else other than sitting and watching
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: the snaps. And to me, Revel should play more snaps
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: on the outside and Bland should be playing on the inside.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: I will question off that.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: So Kenth Murray, we've talked about him for like seven
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: years a lot, I know.
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: Here's the question.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: So it looked like because overshown started this game, is
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: Wilson and Murray splitting snaps?
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: They all they played a bunch of guys, and I didn't.
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: I didn't chart it to the point where I tried
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: to see who played with who. Adam Wilson played, James played,
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: Murray played, over shown played, uh laugh though played. We've
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: talked about him all played like five or six linebackers.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Think the Eagles are doing something weird just by playing
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: three and they're playing I.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: Know, But Jeff Greg's point is well taken since look,
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: yes the numbers are bad, but over time they've had
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: they've got a ton of players back from the injury.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: They've made these trades. Now, obviously you got a gel
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: get chemistry.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: I get that. You know, it's it's a defense of
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: Maybe by week sixteen is really good.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: We'll see, but their matchups here now we will see
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: about jurgons, but they got to be able to protect.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: I just have a feeling, and I know we're going
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: to talk about it soon. This might be one of
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: those games. We did it last year. I think we
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: all I know, I know I did. I think Greg
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: might have said it for the Pittsburgh game. Yeah, I
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: got a feeling like this, there might be some passing
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: in this game. And Shot he likes to pass it.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: He was the he was the brains behind let Russ
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: Cooker twenty twenty. Yeah, if Pete Carleton shut him down,
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: he would have he would have cooked the entire season.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: So, I I mean, it's not bold to say that
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Dallas is going to pass. I got the number one
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: pass offense.
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: It's the you know they're going to pass it. The
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: thing is, can the Eagles get in a pass fest.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: I know they don't want to do it, I get it,
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: but they also don't run it very well the Eagles.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: That's true, amazingly.
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean it's almost impossible to figure out the
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: Eagles offense to me right now as to what they're
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: going to do. You know that. I mean, look, the
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: bottom line is, up to this point in the season,
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: they've not run it particularly well. They've not thrown it
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: particularly well.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: The big question we spoke about, and Adam, I know
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: you're under the weather so you aren't part of doing
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: a Monday show. But the question I kept saying, and
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: I don't know the answer, is why why does their
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: past game look like this? You know, people can say
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: what they want about Nick Sirianni or Kevin Petullo. You know,
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: I've been around enough coaches, some of you guys. They
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: all know ball. Okay, they all know ball. So why
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: is their past game so remedial and elementary?
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Obviously intentional, I agree with. Yeah, The question is how
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: much longer. Are they willing to stick with this intent
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: and not see the results that they want without thinking
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: that they have to be uncomfortable or unintentional or do
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: things that are outside their comfort zone. And we all understand,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: because you don't want to be reaction in sports, right
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: You never want to do it because it finally stopped working,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: because then you can get into a tailspin. You want
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: to be able to be adaptive in the middle of winning.
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: But here's the flip side, and these are un indisputable points, okay,
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: And this is why this conversation, even though it should
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: be had in the building, gets shut down by many
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: median by many fans. Jalen Hurts has twenty two total
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: touchdowns and only two turnovers. That's remarkable, Okay. Jalen Hurts
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: is a Super Bowl champion and a Super Bowl MVP.
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: The Eagles are eight and two. When you say that
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: you can have any conversation you want, but at the
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: end of the day, that can shut it right down.
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: And we all understand that. You know, but if you're
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: looking at tape and being a purist about football, it's
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: it's a difficult watch. And like you said, and Jeff,
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: your points one hundred percent correct, and it's the right one.
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: What they're doing is intentional. It's not that Nick Ciriana
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: or Kevin toolet doesn't know ball they're doing. This is
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: intentional and I just don't know why.
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: Well, funny you say this, Greg is last year we
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: were saying this a lot on this ship pre game
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: and inside the tape. Look, Greg would know. It's not
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: like he's looking at social media. No, I'm joking.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: But they got on Greg because he's being honest about
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: the offense. Les Sir Kellen Moore struggled a bit last season.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: Let's call it like it is.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, first five weeks were not good.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: Well, other than the Green Bay game was terrible for
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: a while. Started the Atlanta game. Yeah, but it's funny
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: and then they like hurts, how that amazing game and
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: what it hurts? Say after the Pittsburgh game, Well they
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: took check it off right, So.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: Okay, on Greg's point, excuse me, maybe they do that.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: This is this could be the game.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: I know that Dallas has had some talent here, but
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: to me, if you can protect, it's not you have
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: to throw the ball forty times, it's when you throw.
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: He should be more successful.
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: I agree, I would just I mean again, now I'm
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: talking about tape purely tape, and what I'm saying is
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: not you know, it's just what I see. What you
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: don't see in Eagles offense is you don't see a
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: lot of motion. You don't see stacks, you don't see bunches.
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: You don't see a lot of two and three man
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: route combinations that attack zone coverage and put defenders in conflict.
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: You don't see a lot of man to man. Beatter
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: route concepts allow receivers to get open quick, so the
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: ball so Jalen can see it quick and get rid
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: of it. You don't see those things in the Eagles offense.
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: And there's no question that these guys know about these concepts.
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: I mean, that's not even a questions on them. But Greg,
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: that's you don't have to say it, I'll say it.
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: That's on them to help him more.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: I've talked to coaches about this, right right, when your
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: quarterback is holding on the football, you give them what
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: are called layups. Okay, this is this is from coaches
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: that I've talked to. They all say they have their
• 44:37
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• 44:40
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• 44:42
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• 44:45
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• 44:52
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• 44:54
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• 44:56
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, I'll say this.
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  Speaker 1: I've you know, all of us have come across a
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: lot of quarterbacks or people who play quarterback in our lives, right,
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  Speaker 1: and they're all different kind of guys. And I've come
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: across some who I felt were entitled or hard to code,
• 45:13
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  Speaker 2: So whatever you want to say about Jaalen hurts, that's
• 45:16
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• 45:16
  Speaker 1: I've never met one yet that didn't like an open receiver,
• 45:20
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• 45:23
  Speaker 1: no matter what it's being said about Jailen, if you
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  Speaker 1: if you gave him a concept where you know there's
• 45:28
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• 45:30
  Speaker 1: few more times, and it's something new, Like I know
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: they're already doing that with some of their stuff.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: But if you add a little more.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: When's the last time have we ever seen a four
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: strong concept by the eagle?
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  Speaker 5: Right? Yeah, I mean that's the kind of stuff I'm
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: talking about.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you just put it out there and look,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: if you do that and it still fails, Okay, but
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: I think we just haven't yet seen that attempt to
• 45:51
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  Speaker 5: To the.
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  Speaker 4: Right. But Jeff, I'd say this and Greg, Greg's a
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: per example.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: So when we do inside the tape, he'll point out
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: games and it hurts isn't seeing it.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: He's not put on the trigger.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: But also we have times recently where we're looking at
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: this thing and we're all agreeing, and other people we've
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: talked to around the league and watching the egles takes
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: of the same thing.
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: What is this? What are you trying to do? And
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: what are you how are you helping your quarterback? Right? Okay,
• 46:19
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• 46:21
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• 46:31
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  Speaker 5: With It was great. I love those guys ask phenomenal questions.
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: It was great and we focus on education.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: But I know this for covering this business twenty seven
• 46:44
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• 46:47
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• 46:50
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles are three and a half point favorites in
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: Dallas in this game.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: With actually high over under.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: Maybe they are expecting a little bit more from the
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: Eagles offensively because the over under is forty seven and
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: a half, which is pretty interesting considered you could probably
• 49:41
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• 49:44
  Speaker 1: forty seven and a half.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: Kid, But let's do it. Let's do what we do
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: best and predict the winner in the game, the player
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: of the game for this game.
• 49:52
  Speaker 5: I'll go first if you want.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yoh, look at you. You're all talking about it.
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: We've got to shoot.
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: I don't know why, but I I sort of agree
• 50:01
  Speaker 5: with Adam here, and I don't know what Adam was
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: going to pick. I just have a funny feeling it's
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: going to be one of those games where the Eagles
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: are going to score in ways we haven't really seen
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: them score, you know, up to this point, and that
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: their defense is going to be a big fact. Their
• 50:14
  Speaker 5: defense is playing at such an incredibly high level right now.
• 50:17
  Speaker 5: It slightly that you've seen what's that? Okay, you're watching
• 50:22
  Speaker 5: tape of thirty two teams?
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah the best I know you don't, right, but would
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: you say certainly up near the top of the tape
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: watching Oh, without question, that's special.
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: That's great.
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: Eagle's playing really well once they got Phillips. With Dean
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: playing the way he is, Mitchell's playing at an all
• 50:38
  Speaker 5: pro level. I think mccoob has improved. I mean, you know,
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: Blanken Chip is just about as steady as they come.
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: Doesn't make mistakes. Not an impact player the way some
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: people want a safety to be, but he just doesn't
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: make mistakes. I just have a feeling this is going
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: to be like a twenty seven to seventeen Eagles win,
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: believe it or not, and there and it's just going
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: to be because it's a game right now where everybody
• 50:59
  Speaker 5: you know, And We've had a great conversation this week
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: about talking about the Eagles offense. And I'm not saying
• 51:04
  Speaker 5: all of a sudden, they're going to look like, you know,
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: a Ben Johnson offense. But I just feel like something's
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: gonna click this week better than it has. Not that
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: Hurts is gonna throw for three ninety and five touchdowns
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: because they're not going to play that way. But I
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: just say, yeah, something's gonna click this week, you know,
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: much like the Steelers game a year ago. And I'm
• 51:24
  Speaker 5: gonna pick the Eagles to win twenty seven to seventeen.
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: And I think I'm going to pick Devanta Smith as
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: the player. Okay, I was going back and forth, you know,
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: but I think that's what I'm gonna do.
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: All right, Adam, I'm going Eagles twenty seven, Cal Polks
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: twenty four, number one quarterback Jailen Hurts. I just I
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: would love to find what we said before the steel
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: I'm pretty certain that was the because Greg and I
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: kept saying this is gonna be with Hurts. It wouldn't happen.
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: But I remember saying, if it doesn't happen, now I'm done.
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: I'm never picking with player of the game. And then
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: he went up playing great, right, I just haven't. And
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: you know, if you look at Dacton play against Eagles
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: last year, daks four and two.
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: Sincerianni's been the head coach. I got a feeling. Now.
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: Look, I know dallastans of the game. I get it
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: all these added players, but Eagles are really well coached.
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: Just something sometimes something happens better on the road for you.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: I feel like Eagles will win this game. It's gonna
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: be tight one. No weather, by the way, thank goodness,
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: you gonna have to word the damn weather the win.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: Who's your player of the game.
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: It could be Hurts, Hurts, Jalen Hurts. All right.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: By the way, do you have do you guys recall
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: if either of you have picked against the Eagles at
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: all this year?
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: I don't think I have.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: No. You guys always leave me to be the.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: Better one who does and then people kill you on Yeah, well,
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: I guess that's gonna stay the same as I have
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: to do a pick each week also for Philly Voice,
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: so I keep.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: Them consistent with this show. And here's what I wrote.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: The Eagles have the far better defense, the Cowboys have
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: the far better offense. But why do the Cowboys have
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: the far better offense? Because pound for pound, player for player,
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: the Eagles have as much offensive talent as the Cowboys
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: do at wide receiver, at running back, for sure, offensive line,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: but they just haven't played like it this year, at
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: any time, and that sort of sticks in my head
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: when I look at this matchup. It was a very
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: close game the first time around in Philadelphia, and both
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: teams are better in different ways. Since I don't have
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: a great reason, I think the Eagles are the better team.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: I think they're gonna better than the Cowboys.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: Think they are better than the Cowboys, and they'll win
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: more games than the Cowboys. But sometimes it's when you
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: play a team at that time, and this is the
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: rare time the Eagles have played a team that is
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: healthier than them. I think the Lane Johnson absence is
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: pretty glaring.
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: But Johnson, yeah, we didn't really talk much about it.
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: That's a big yeah.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: Well, I said, Matt Pryor is now the jumbo guy
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: if they're going to continue to do that, and that's
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: different to me. So I feel like this will be
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: a week where the Eagles get caught. I think the
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: Cowboys have played well against the Eagles in Dallas and
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: by the way, first time, first time. I think in
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: their careers that Dak Prescott and jail Ed Hurts will
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: be on the field against each other for both games
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: of the series, uh in the season, So that makes
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: it exciting. But yeah, I did pick the Cowboys in
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: this game twenty four twenty and I am picking Cede
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: Lamb have an atonement game for that opener where he
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: dropped four or five passes.
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: Oh, I forgot about they It wasn't he dropped a ton,
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: it was. He may be his worst game, I think five, yeah,
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: four or.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: Five definitely game he he I'll send this.
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: He owned up to it. He could. He didn't blame anybody.
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: They were really bad.
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: Think about how he had a big game and he
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: could have had probably over two hundred yards. That's why
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: we said Jackson. They housed him. Yep, they got him
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: that week and then you know somehow he's starting. But yeah,
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: all right, so you always have to be the center
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: it's interesting.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you guys are a bunch of homers.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: If I gotta say you never probably.
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: I just feel like they're they're better coached. I know,
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: people get killing Siriani.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: That's the problem. Like I look for the I agree
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: with you, they're better.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: I said, they're better in every statistical except for obviously offensively.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: They're a better team.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: But every once in a while, you got to find
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: the week where they get tripped up, right, Like that's
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: the whole point of being a good picker, is like
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: when you get that feeling that you're gonna get tripped
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: up this week, you know.
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: One of these weeks are gonna be right one.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: Of these Well, I think I picked the Broncos. So
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: I was the only one of us.
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: Now, that was a great call. That was an odd game. Yes,
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: you got it right.
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Well we'll leave it on that note.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: That has been This has been the Inside the Birds
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: pregame show with Greg co Sol for Greg co Sell
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: and Adam Kaplan.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: I'm Jeff Mosher.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: Catch you all on the next one.