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Fictional Women Around the World: Nia Nal · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha and all come to
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  Speaker 1: stuff I never told your production of iHeart Radio and
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  Speaker 1: today spoilers. Spoilers abound because we are talking about Supergirl
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  Speaker 1: and related comics and other material. I've never seen Supergirl,
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  Speaker 1: so apologies. If I get anything wrong, please let me know. Samantha,
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  Speaker 1: you've never seen it either.
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  Speaker 2: So I have never seen any of the WB Supergirl.
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  Speaker 2: I have seen her when she does the crossover because
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  Speaker 2: I did watch Flash and I watched parts of the Arrow,
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  Speaker 2: so there's a lot of crossover between the Flash and Supergirl.
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  Speaker 2: And then like when DC does their whole their thing,
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  Speaker 2: which is very confusing and I had to be like,
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  Speaker 2: what the hell is happening? I don't know what's going
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  Speaker 2: on type of level. So I know of the person
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  Speaker 2: who plays that character, who is actually on Glee, and
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  Speaker 2: she has gone through some things y'all and has made
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  Speaker 2: it on top. Yeah, it was a whole thing. But
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  Speaker 2: that's about all. So I know Melissa been nooist, but
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  Speaker 2: I knew her from Glee when I was still kind
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  Speaker 2: of watching. But she's been through some things. Yeah, So
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  Speaker 2: that's about all. That's all I know. I know they
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  Speaker 2: can cross over and she flies.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know you might know some of this then,
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  Speaker 1: because this character we're talking about, Nia Now did appear
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  Speaker 1: in the Flash and the air Verse that I think
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  Speaker 1: only briefly.
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  Speaker 2: Who is she? Well, tell me, I'm excited.
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  Speaker 1: Let me explain, and again, listeners, please feel free to
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  Speaker 1: write in and correct me. So nia Now are the
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  Speaker 1: Dreamer is half human and half Notorian, and Notorians are
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  Speaker 1: an alien race in the DC universe, and she grew
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  Speaker 1: up in this Hiddenn alien refugee sanctuary close to Metropolis.
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  Speaker 1: She is depicted by Nicole Mains, a transactivist herself, and
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  Speaker 1: we'll talk more about that later. The character first appeared
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  Speaker 1: in DC Pride issue number one in twenty twenty two
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  Speaker 1: and was the first trans character in the Era Verse
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  Speaker 1: in the first trans superhero on network television, and she
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  Speaker 1: had to face transphobia from all around, including her family.
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  Speaker 1: In her character arc, her powers allow her to get
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  Speaker 1: visions of the future in her dreams, and she can
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  Speaker 1: convert mental energy to physical energy and can astral project.
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  Speaker 1: The Nontallorians pass on their powers from mothers to daughters,
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  Speaker 1: and that was done very purposefully, that it was passed
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  Speaker 1: on from mother to daughter and a clarification. This is
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  Speaker 1: kind of confusing to me, because again, I haven't consumed
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  Speaker 1: a lot of this media. She first appeared in a
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  Speaker 1: twenty eighteen episode of the TV show Supergirl called American Alien,
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  Speaker 1: but I guess her character's introduction is often attributed to
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  Speaker 1: the comics in terms of continuity, because would do such
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  Speaker 1: a mess in these comics. Some people usually say she
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  Speaker 1: first appeared in that twenty twenty two issue, but I'm
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  Speaker 1: pretty sure her first, like actual instance of appearing was
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  Speaker 1: this twenty eighteen episode. She also appeared in a twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty two Fortnite event where she was the third playable
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  Speaker 1: trans character that they've ever had. A Maine surprised the
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  Speaker 1: role in a twenty twenty three episode of The Flash.
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  Speaker 1: So this character, the Dreamer, worked alongside Kara Supergirl al
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  Speaker 1: as a reporter. She has a degree in international affairs
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  Speaker 1: from Georgetown and she was a political speechwriter and worked
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  Speaker 1: for the White House Press Secretary. She was concerned about
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  Speaker 1: anti alien and anti trans hate on the Rise. To
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  Speaker 1: that end, yes, she goes on to pursue reporting. She's
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  Speaker 1: trying to kind of build her story and show why
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  Speaker 1: this is really bad and why it's rising When she
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  Speaker 1: gets her powers, her sister, who had trained in the
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  Speaker 1: Realm of dream Interpretation, is really angry about it because
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  Speaker 1: she wanted the powers and disowns her. Kara opens up
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  Speaker 1: about her own superhero identity to befriend Nia. When Kara
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  Speaker 1: is framed for a crime, Nia doesn't buy it, doesn't
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  Speaker 1: believe it happened. She takes up the mantle of City
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  Speaker 1: Superhero while they work to clear Kara's name and combat
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  Speaker 1: the anti alien Hatred. Through this, Nia helps defeat a
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  Speaker 1: super villain and starts dating Brainy, a fellow alien. Soon
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  Speaker 1: after she takes on the rule of the Dreamer, she
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  Speaker 1: has this vision of the death of the Justice League,
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  Speaker 1: and she's able to warn the then superman John Kent
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  Speaker 1: about it. She joins forces with him to liberate Gomorra, which,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, this very much confused me, but we're
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  Speaker 1: talking about the island, not the Marvel character. That makes sense,
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  Speaker 1: and after what happens, she believed John Kent had changed
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  Speaker 1: the future. She later met Supergirl, Batman, and Robin, who
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  Speaker 1: gave her a mission to use her powers to retrieve
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  Speaker 1: the helmet of Fate, and during this mission her powers
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  Speaker 1: expanded so that she could have visions while she was awake.
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  Speaker 1: In twenty twenty two, Nia attended Metropolis Pride. She later
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  Speaker 1: helped evacuate Metropolis. Unbeknownst to her, she was being observed
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  Speaker 1: by Amanda Waller, an intense agent who led the Suicide Squad,
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  Speaker 1: amongst other things. Waller later contacted her and tried to
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  Speaker 1: blackmail her and to capturing a runaway member of the
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  Speaker 1: Suicide Squad Afterthought. Worried about the people of the refugee
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  Speaker 1: town that she grew up in, Nia defeated Afterthought, though
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  Speaker 1: it turned out it was more of a test from
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  Speaker 1: Waller to prove if Nia could be controlled by threatening
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  Speaker 1: the ones that she loved, and Waller thought, yes, I
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  Speaker 1: can control her like this. Later, Waller threatened her people
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  Speaker 1: again and captured her to work with the Suicide Squad,
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  Speaker 1: using her powers to travel through the dream world ensure
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  Speaker 1: that Gomorra that Island, would not become something Waller and
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  Speaker 1: the US could not control. Through a vision, Nia learned
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  Speaker 1: that Waller was planning on taking control of Gamora herself,
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  Speaker 1: and Nia abandoned the mission, recruiting Harley Quinn in the process,
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  Speaker 1: and they, along with the Gomorah Army, stopped the suicide
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  Speaker 1: squad from succeeding, Na lost consciousness and the effort and
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  Speaker 1: tried to enter the dreams of Waller to sway her
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  Speaker 1: from the path, but was not successful. However, I'm pretty
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  Speaker 1: sure that's kind of like where the story is right now.
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  Speaker 1: It's ongoing, so more to come and if there's been
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  Speaker 1: any updates right in as mentioned Mains. The actress portraying
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  Speaker 1: Nia is a transactivist and was involved in a twenty
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  Speaker 1: fourteen lawsuit that resulted in the first state court ruling
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  Speaker 1: that stated it was illegal to ban trans kids from
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  Speaker 1: bathrooms based on gender identity. She reportedly started asking questions
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  Speaker 1: like when do I get to be a girl and
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  Speaker 1: when will my penis fall off? From as young as
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  Speaker 1: two years old. Her twin brother said while they were
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  Speaker 1: in elementary school, face it, dad, you have a son
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  Speaker 1: and a daughter. She changed her name, got gender affirming surgery,
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  Speaker 1: and decided to pursue acting as she got older. The
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  Speaker 1: twenty fifteen book Becoming Nicole, The Transformation of an American
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  Speaker 1: Family by Washington Post writer Amy Ellis Nutt about her
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  Speaker 1: family and her gender identity, told their whole story. There
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  Speaker 1: are several articles that have delved into the differing gender
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  Speaker 1: identities of her and her twin brother. She was also
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  Speaker 1: featured in the documentary The Translist, and was in the
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  Speaker 1: horror movie Bit about queer vampires, So I'm Intrigued, and
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  Speaker 1: has a role in the second season of Yellow Jackets.
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  Speaker 1: She's also been involved in writing the comics for this character.
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  Speaker 1: Just all yeah, I love it. Yeah, so that's really cool.
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  Speaker 1: And again, listeners, if you have any comics you want,
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  Speaker 1: wanna recommend any corrections for me. If I got something wrong,
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  Speaker 1: please let us know. I'm also sorry, I tried to
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  Speaker 1: get it right. I always want to say Naya, it's
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  Speaker 1: nias Nia. Yes, and I hope I got it right. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: but feel free to correct me on that as well. Yeah.
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