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Tailgate Tour · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  Music and Welcome back to the Boundary
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  Corner Podcast, along with my partners Brian Siegler and
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  Jonathan Talley. I am Curtis Wilson, and this
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  episode is brought to you by Doctor Jeremy Kelts down at the
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  Main Street Pharmacy, Your friendly neighborhood pharmacy,
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  301 S Main St. Blacksburg, VA And we are back,
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  baby. Fellas, it's been a while since
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  we got together on the BCP. Yes, Sir.
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  We've been doing a lot of other things here and there for other
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  podcasts and other things, but we're back.
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  How's everybody doing this night, Tally?
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  How's it going down South? The cicadas are taking over.
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  I don't know if y'all dealing with cicadas where you are out
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  there in the world. That that home is continuous.
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  Oh my God, man, I I can see why people kill themselves.
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  You know, I'm not making light of it.
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  But like, seriously, if I got put, one of them got in my car.
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  Oh, no, one of them got in my car.
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  It was in the back. It was in the back.
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  Like, luckily it was right at the window, and I let the wander
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  down and he flew out. But to hear that noise that
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  close to me, if somebody put me in a room with a couple of them,
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  yeah, I'm out of here, man. I'm trying to find my way to
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  Jesus, but other than that everything is good.
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  Yeah, man, we got Husk everywhere, man, on the cars.
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  Oh yeah, they. Everywhere Have you hit?
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  Have you hit one yet? Going down the road?
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  No. But I have in the past.
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  Nah, dude, I I, I mean again, they're everywhere here.
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  So I've hit a couple. Going down the road sounds like
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  a rock's hitting your hitting your windshield coming off of a
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  18 Wheeler or something. So it's nasty, man.
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  But other than that, everything is good.
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  Cicadas suck. My son is back playing sports.
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  We running all over the place. We were in Lake Point, Georgia
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  two weekends ago. They had a local tournament this
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  weekend at A at a cool high school field here.
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  But that Lake Point, Georgia facility, man, if anybody has
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  any kids that play baseball like that is the Mecca that you want
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  to take them to. APBR tournament at Lake Point,
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  Georgia. It's the Knox's facility that
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  I've been to. But anyway, Brian, how you
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  feeling? How you been, man?
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  Hold on. There's one thing we got to put
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  up for Brian talks, Robbie said. Just move.
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  Just move to the mountains. You ain't gotta worry about him.
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  We don't have to worry about Internet or if we move to the
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  mountains. Yeah, man, Yeah.
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  I don't know. Robbie's Internet was pretty
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  good the last show he was on. Man, he's moved.
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  Oh, yeah. You did say he was, you know, a
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  couple times. He was a couple times.
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  He was at the school, wasn't he? Yes, he.
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  Would go to the field house and post up at the field house.
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  So you made sure he had Internet there?
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  Yeah. Man, that's dedication, man.
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  Shout out to Robbie Compton, man going to the field house on It's
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  off. Time to record for us, my
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  brother, man, brother from another mother.
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  There we go, Absolutely. Man, it's been, it's been been
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  kind of wild over here. I have not had my truck for over
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  a month. It's been in the shop.
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  You. Didn't get it back though.
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  No, I haven't got it back yet. Not cool.
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  What's wrong, you know? The Camaro over to the house
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  last Thursday or two Thursdays ago.
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  I just thought easier to drive at than the truck.
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  No, I still haven't got it back yet.
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  Man, you got a Camaro. Yeah.
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  Dang, boy, you. I knew y'all was getting that
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  money up there with you. That's that's my wife's car.
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  She likes, She likes. The oh, OK, OK.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gotcha.
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  Miss Ziegler. Oh, yeah, yeah.
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  Miss Boundary Corner. There we go.
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  Yeah, That. That's.
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  Her. Curtis.
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  What you been up to? Baseball brother I.
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  Knew I knew you was going to say.
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  That two kids in Little League, you know, I I haven't been at
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  that field four or five days a week pretty much like that since
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  April. Like those episodes y'all saw me
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  in on Tuesday night. I'm literally getting in,
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  getting kids to bed and sliding in here.
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  Baseball kids, you know school's about to end up this way.
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  Me and Brian's son getting out of the elementary school.
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  They will be middle schoolers next year with Brian.
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  I don't that don't seem right, dude.
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  No, it's not checking on this end.
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  It's we got like we got we got promotion coming up in a couple
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  weeks and it's not it's it's it's not looking good over here
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  and then. Is it you?
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  Or Mama, I'm OK. She she's struggling a little
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  bit and the the worst part's going to be when he when he
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  turns 11. That's also the first day of 6th
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  grade, too. OK.
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  So yeah, that's going to be, that's going to be a double
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  whammy right there. Well, I'm telling you what you
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  you got a son about to turn 11, your son about to turn 11,
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  Brian. Yeah, yeah, he he turns 11 in
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  August. Well, enjoy your kids.
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  People out there, Curtis. I know you got younger kids,
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  Brian. You about to start feeling it.
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  Enjoy your enjoy your kids while they are young.
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  My son came to me the other day. I was sitting watching TV, had a
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  few moments where I didn't have to do nothing, just kind of
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  sprawled out on the couch, not doing nothing, playing on my
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  phone and he says, Dad, I think I'm about to start shaving and I
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  was like, you ain't got know how to shave, he said.
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  I'm talking about my balls. I was like, all right man,
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  that's enough. That's enough TV to.
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  Look forward to Curtis. That's enough TV for them to
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  look forward to. Let me go to bed.
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  We both got 11 year olds going to middle school next day.
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  Manscaped if if y'all out there listening, you know we we we got
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  a sponsorship opportunity here. And I got manscaped already.
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  I'm just wondering what he needs to do, what he needed for.
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  I don't want to ask, so I'm just saying people with the young
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  kids enjoy them. We got a great show tonight,
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  Curtis. What we what we doing tonight,
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  man? What we got?
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  We got a lot of stuff we're unloading tonight, back half of
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  the episode. We're going to be looking at
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  some retrospective, some clips that we have taken roughly over
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  the past year. A lot of good takes, a lot of
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  good conversation about that. We're going to be talking about
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  obviously the Portal editions. But before we get kicked off
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  with me and Brian's experience down at Hardywood and the
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  Tailgate Tour, just a shout out. We got our boy up there,
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  Andretti, up in Philly, Andretti.
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  Andrea, I want you on that game. Mr. Ron's in the building.
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  Hey, less than two months. Less than two months.
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  They go Andretti putting it out there, he wants not only us, but
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  if you're PCP, maybe Brian you, you're the technical.
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  I got PCP Room. Yeah, maybe we're we're going to
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  get it going. Maybe we'll get a little.
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  Maybe we'll get a little promotional tournament going.
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  Hey, put. My put my.
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  I'll go ahead, Right. I'll say get a promotional
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  tournament going to winter. That tournament might get a
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  little little swag, maybe a little something fun there.
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  You go, I got you right. Here, my boy William up there.
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  Yeah, put my boy William up there, man.
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  He, William keeps me sane. He hits me about once a week and
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  reminds me that I ain't ready for Nashville so.
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  Got to let him know I got to, got to, got to keep, keep you
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  humble. That man is ready and I can't
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  wait, man. I mean, I'm going to be wide
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  open, He. Is by the way, Thomas enjoyed
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  you guys both on the huddle. Good job there fellas.
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  But Ron, let's talk about the tailgate tour out at Hardywood.
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  We roll out there great time. Unfortunately the weather put a
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  damper on a lot of it for those who out there.
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  A couple folks come up, chat with us, saw us from the
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  podcast, but the weather put the damper on.
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  I mean, it was storming and raining.
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  They were calling for it like literally starting just before
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  the event, you know you had to kind of you know contingency
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  plan, figure out what you were going to do.
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  They didn't have the they didn't have the the stage set up
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  outside like they've had the you know previous couple years
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  everything was inside on the mainstage that they have inside
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  there still a great event but you know when you when you take
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  away one of the full bars you take away a couple of the pop up
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  bars you get a longer lines for beer.
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  You know it it was a little tighter than you wanted it to be
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  I think with the number of folks that turned out but it was still
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  a really good time good information from Witt always
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  good to see Mikey out there him seeing the event and obviously
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  coach pry closing that thing out pretty strong there.
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  So I mean it was a it was a good time and good seeing folks in
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  the Richmond area. Good, good talking to a few
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  people that came up to us recognizes from the show.
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  So good time all around, man. Shout out two people here, our
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  buddies Phil and Mitch, Phil, long time friend, both alumni.
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  As a tech they both came out, hung out, drank some beers with
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  them. I hadn't seen either of them in
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  a while but good seeing those fellas.
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  But we also we had a couple minutes with pride cause the
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  line it was insane and obviously we've interviewed him before
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  working on trying to get him on again.
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  We actually spent close to 15 minutes.
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  Y'all talking with Coach Cheetah and Gunnar Brewer and
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  immediately like you, just you just feel that.
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  You just feel the energy coming off on this positive.
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  You understand why those guys can recruit.
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  You understand why they're such good coaches because just chit
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  chatting with them, you know, 15 minutes, it was a little bit
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  about everything, a little bit about nothing.
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  But man, like we're going, we're going to try to get at least one
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  of them, if not both of them on the show soon.
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  I mean, I enjoyed the heck out of Cheetah and Gunner, man.
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  They just awesome guys and you like, you know, talking to him,
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  it's like, I love having these two guys on the staff.
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  Yeah, yeah, a lot of enthusiasm from from Cheetah, obviously.
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  I mean you can you can just tell looking at him normally, like
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  you know you can tell he's got a lot of energy brings brings the
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  juice and he's just like that in any other circumstance talking
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  to him and you know Gunner was cool because Gunner, Gunner
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  would dive into a little bit of the the minutiae and the XS and
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  OS with even in a casual conversation.
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  But he keeps it, keeps it moving enough where you know you don't
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  really get bogged down in in too many details either.
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  So he kept he kept enough enough high level where you know you
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  can keep with him and but but he he talked about some of the
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  insurance and outs of recruiting some of the things that they got
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  coming down the Pike in terms of rules that might allow him to
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  get you know more of the on field type role you know despite
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  not having a traditional coaching position on the staff.
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  So really interesting stuff and I'm looking forward to trying to
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  get those guys on here and talk about it a little bit more. 100%
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  man and and and we missed you tally.
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  Like Tally's going to have to just drive up because they do
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  it. They've done them on Mondays
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  because Hardywood's closed on Mondays.
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  They do it on Monday night and it and again it makes sense
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  because for Hardywood it's just it's just free money because
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  they know people are going to buy the tickets and they're
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  going to come out and buy more beer and have a great time.
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  And again again the turn out for the weather that place was
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  jammed like you could not move. So I I'm going to probably say
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  they probably missed 5 or 500 to 1000 people extra coming out.
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  But again great show and again love it love it love to see the
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  vibes out there and you can just again there's there's a buzz
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  it's not what it was. I went two years ago and it was
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  kind of like, OK, Brian went last year and Brian you
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  mentioned like you know, everybody's okay but ain't.
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  There was nobody was panicking, but I think everybody was still
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  a little hesitant after you know, right.
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  But at that point we had had the a good, some good recruiting
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  momentum, the portal was looking good.
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  So every nobody was really panicking.
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  It was just like, all right, we we got to do better than three
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  wins though, right. So everybody was enthusiastic
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  about this one. Every everybody is ready to go.
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  Everybody's jacked up. I mean we see it all the time.
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  We see it on Twitter. I mean there is a buzz behind
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  this program that we haven't seen in a long time.
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  And you know some of it's been earned.
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  I think some of it is, you know, I think people trying to get
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  ahead of the potential, right they're they're trying to be the
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  the, the the guy, the smartest guy in the room because they're
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  a little bit ahead of the potential.
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  But I think the the ceiling is where, where, where where those
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  people are talking about. We just got to get there right
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  A. 100%. Yeah, I'm, I'm enjoying the.
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  I'm enjoying the, the silence, You know what I'm saying?
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  It's like they're doing a great job on social media and stuff
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  like that, but I'm enjoying just not being worried.
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  Like for a while we had this person's, you know, this
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  person's coming out with a with a a a hit piece, this person is
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  is leaving the team and then there's bad press because of
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  that. Then we have, you know, legal
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  things that's going on. Like I'm just enjoying the
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  silence, man, you know what I'm saying?
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  Like I'm just enjoying getting ready for the season.
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  The kids seem like they are locked in and working and and
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  hey, I'm happy. I don't.
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  I don't. I don't need to be entertained
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  right now. You know what I'm saying?
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  Like I'm good to not be entertained.
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  Just y'all stay healthy and y'all enjoy being college kids
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  Right now. That's what I need.
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  Y'all keep working. The season will be here before
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  we know it. 100% And let's talk about some of the additions
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  that's happened since the last time we talked because you know,
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  there were some portal opportunities out there and we
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  took advantage of it, right? Oh, what?
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  What? What's wrong?
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  You see your boy, your boy here. New king.
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  Your boy, new king. I'm.
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  Over here looking at. Hey, I got it coming.
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  I got it coming. Oh, oh, OK Oh, yo, this is you
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  and him, man. This is you and his beef.
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  New King get you APS 5 and we we'll settle this before
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  September 27th. We got college football.
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  We got college football coming out in a month.
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  We'll play a lot of games before that game played.
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  We'll go ahead and settle this all.
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  Right. Well, let's talk about those
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  Portal additions because I think the three that we have added
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  thus far really good. And to meet needed Portal
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  additions. I'll start the first one way
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  back at the end of April, Colin Sheeley transfer from UCLA to
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  Virginia Tech. You know, I think he was like, I
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  don't know where he was in the Portal, but you look at his
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  numbers, he was a backup at UCLA last year.
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  He played in two games, two touchdowns, no interceptions,
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  178 rushing yards on 21 rushes, about 65% of the passing game
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  and it was a discussion we had after spring game right is
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  popped back up and I think we'd feel comfortable Pop being the
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  back up, but it's almost like it's no in game experience.
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  Pop still needs to go eat more because Pop still only about 100
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  and 75180 lbs. I believe that was the last
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  report, right? So now you got the buffer.
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  Because if you take a look at Sheely, not only last year at
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  UCLA started games at Kent State back in 2022 where he amassed
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  2100 yards passing 13 touchdowns, 5 picks ran for just
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  about 500 yards, four additional touchdowns.
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  So now you've got your safety plan, right?
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  Even though Connor's built like a Tang and nothing will happen
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  to him, but you got your safety plan and it also helps the
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  development of Bob Watson. Tally, what do you think about
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  this one? Yeah man.
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  I mean, I think we'll talk about it a little later on.
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  We'll have some clips planned and because Pride is who he is,
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  I mean, you'll, when you see the clip, you'll know what I'm
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  talking about. But you got to have competition.
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  It don't matter how good you is, like you got to, you can't get
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  comfortable, you know. So when you look at the
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  quarterback room, it was needed to bring a quarterback in to
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  just say, hey, don't slip up because I mean, I love Pop.
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  I think Pop's going to be a good player for us.
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  But Pop was suspended last year for something, You know what I
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  mean? You have something like that
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  happen, then where do you go if not even thinking about Kyron
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  being hurt. But what if Kyron goes and does
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  what we know he's going to do, like he did this year and we 42
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  to 3 on a team, he needs to be out of the game, you know what
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  I'm saying? So just things like that, you
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  got to be, you know, you got to have a a safety plan and you got
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  to have competition to keep on driving each other in practice.
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  Nobody can get relaxed when you're in a position like this
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  because you you miss out on the opportunity and then the
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  opportunity's gone forever. We we're not doing know what
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  else no more. Like what else stuff's over
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  with. Like it's go get it done right
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  now. Yeah, I mean, I think when you
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  you get the roster spot, you had a situation where you got a
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  still undersized, if you know, talented, talented kid, but
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  undersized, no starting experience, no really collegiate
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  experience at all at this point outside of a couple spring games
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  and some mop up duty short short term last year, you know a
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  couple games. This is, this is where you want
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  to go. You get a guy that has a similar
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  type skill set to your starter. He's got some wiggle, he can
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  throw it. He can do those things, do both
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  of those things at A at a pretty good level.
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  He's a guy that if you need him for a quarter 1/2 a game, he can
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  come in there and get the job done.
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  You feel pretty good about it. I don't, you know, nobody,
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  nobody's coming in there and and replacing Kyron, that's on this
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  roster right now whether it's Colin, whether it's Pop, you
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  know that's not happening. But this gives you a little bit
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  more of a of a buffer of a of a safety valve and it puts you in
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  a better spot with with helping Pop grow some too because Pop's
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  going to get to do a couple things.
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  He's going to get pushed and practices a little bit more
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  because he he's seeing somebody else as a backup getting getting
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  the job done. It's going to give him something
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  to work for in season and and I think like like Tally said
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  that's going to help help his development long term And then
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  you know he he's a guy that really only has one year.
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  So it's going to be Pop's you know, position come 2025.
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  Yep. And it could be Pop's starting
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  position depending on what Kyron decides to do with the end of
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  2024. So this is an important year for
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  everybody. So having having somebody like
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  that, they can kind of kind of put in that role and be that
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  buffer, I think it's really good for him. 100 percent, 100% and
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  pops up to 190. I need Pop to be at two Bills
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  when he's a starting quarterback.
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  Two bills. Two bills.
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  You'll get it done. Yeah, six meals a day.
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  Lots of chicken. Eat, Eat whatever you want to
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  eat. There you go.
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  Go to tally dot. Just eat whatever.
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  With how much you're working out, you can't eat too much.
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  You can't. Exactly, Exactly 100%.
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  All right, let's flip to the next one here, because this is a
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  pretty big land. Curtis Perry transfers from
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  Alabama to Virginia Tech looking at his background and how he
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  came out of a prospect when he came out back in the year 2022.
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  So that's only two seasons. I mean, this kids, a red shirt
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  freshman walking in the door. He was a top 60 player.
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  He was #2 player in the state of Alabama at Pike Road.
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  I'm going to ask Tally about this in a second here.
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  This guy had offers from everywhere and he's only been
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  there a couple years. 6 to about 265 lbs is what the listed
• 20:42
  weight is. We all know how weights go with
• 20:45
  college kids and stuff. Sometimes it's high, sometimes
• 20:47
  it's low, Sometimes nobody knows but the caliber of player we're
• 20:52
  getting here. Tally, tell us about Pike Road,
• 20:55
  what you know about Perry, if anything, and then Brian if if
• 20:59
  you can come in and just tell me what you saw when you looked at
• 21:02
  his high school tape. Yeah, Pike Road is.
• 21:06
  I mean, they they've had a lot of NFL guys that come from
• 21:09
  there. I think that Perry transferred
• 21:13
  there from somewhere out of Montgomery his senior year or
• 21:16
  maybe his junior year. But he was a he was, he was on
• 21:21
  one in high school like he was the man.
• 21:23
  But what I mean, and that's why he went to Alabama, you know,
• 21:27
  But with his body size, I feel like he was always going to be a
• 21:31
  little undersized to play for a team like Alabama.
• 21:35
  Maybe not every SEC school, but a team like Alabama.
• 21:38
  He's going to be a little bit undersized because he's right at
• 21:40
  that. You know 6162, I think he
• 21:44
  probably got up to about 260. They may got him in like 265 S
• 21:48
  Of course. We love we we always look at
• 21:52
  Pollock. You know what I mean Like we
• 21:54
  have kids like that all the time that produce here.
• 21:57
  So it was interesting because I was thinking that it was like a
• 22:02
  no go for sure you know for us to get him and all they pop up
• 22:06
  and was like oh you know he he he's committed to Virginia Tech
• 22:09
  and I'm like OK, a Alabama boy and a you know Alabama transfer.
• 22:14
  It's pretty cool for me, you know what I'm saying, To to see
• 22:18
  how some of these kids played, you know, back in their high
• 22:21
  school days and then now I get to follow on in college.
• 22:24
  And what what's important about it more than this year is that
• 22:29
  you get a young, you know, a young defensive lineman that
• 22:35
  when we have these lineman that are going to the NFL, we're
• 22:38
  going to go ahead and say it. We got these lineman that's
• 22:40
  going to the NFL after this year.
• 22:44
  You're not just, you know retooling every year, you know
• 22:48
  what I'm saying? You already building, you know
• 22:50
  you've already got them there. You already got them bought into
• 22:53
  the program and knowing what they're doing for the next year.
• 22:55
  So big gift for that situation definitely.
• 22:59
  And I think people are going to enjoy watching them play because
• 23:02
  like I said again now I know high school took college is much
• 23:07
  different and I have not watched them play a down of of college.
• 23:10
  But if he can get to anything like he was in high school, it
• 23:16
  won't be nothing that we've seen.
• 23:18
  I'll tell you that like he he's tough.
• 23:21
  What did you see, Brian, on that tape?
• 23:24
  He reminds me of honestly the the the person that we had on
• 23:28
  the last time we punched record. OK.
• 23:31
  He reminds me a lot of Payne's game because he he he's kind of
• 23:34
  got that interior lineman that plays like a defensive end
• 23:38
  mentality. He can keep, he can knife
• 23:40
  through. He's really disruptive.
• 23:43
  Get Steve. But he's still strong enough and
• 23:45
  big enough to shed blockers, even bigger guys.
• 23:50
  So he's not losing in any sort of physical battle despite
• 23:53
  giving up some size to the bigger guys.
• 23:57
  You know, I think, you know, if he can Polish his, his skill set
• 24:01
  and you know, I think put on maybe a little more weight where
• 24:06
  he can handle some double teams when those come.
• 24:08
  But I think he's going to he's at prototypical you know quick
• 24:12
  disruptive 3 technique that you see and and and it looks like
• 24:16
  that's kind of what we're going with for that position.
• 24:19
  A guy that can kind of play outside the guard and and just
• 24:22
  be really disruptive. So I think he's going to fit
• 24:26
  into that role pretty good even if he's not necessarily
• 24:28
  frontline this year. I think you know with with the
• 24:31
  eligibility he has left, we're going to get some good run and
• 24:35
  see some good things from him. 100%, and I think that's one of
• 24:38
  the better things to see is he does not have to come in and be
• 24:41
  the man this year, right? With a nice peoples, with Fuga,
• 24:45
  with Gillian, with Copeland, it's like now is it going to be
• 24:48
  nice if he gets some PT, gets out to play with those boys
• 24:51
  100%. But that's the best part.
• 24:54
  It's like you don't have to be the man this year.
• 24:56
  Learn, grow the next year and the next year.
• 24:59
  Go make your money. Go make your money.
• 25:02
  All right. One last individual we got and
• 25:05
  Brian, I'm going to let you leave with this one and then
• 25:07
  tally, come on me in here. Caleb Spencer transfers from the
• 25:12
  University of Miami back home to Virginia 6 two and a half 210
• 25:19
  when he came out. He was a top 15 Virginia
• 25:22
  prospect when he came out as well back in 2023.
• 25:25
  So a relatively young guy. Did play a lot on Miami special
• 25:29
  teams this year. He is a safety played down at
• 25:32
  Life Christian Academy down in Colonial Heist just down the
• 25:34
  road here for me and Brian originally from Gloucester, VA
• 25:37
  out on the Eastern Shore. Brian Tape wise, what does it
• 25:41
  say in another homecoming, right?
• 25:45
  Another homecoming. You love to see it, man.
• 25:47
  And you know, I I like the, you know, we'll say this pride talks
• 25:52
  about it. We we talked about it.
• 25:54
  This is a positionally flexible player.
• 25:58
  He he's got safety next to his name.
• 26:01
  But I think the big thing is that he's a guy that can slide
• 26:03
  out, play some nickel. He can be a kind of a a a big
• 26:06
  safety in the box. He can kind of be a a a will or
• 26:10
  a * linebacker. So you can kind of move him in a
• 26:12
  bunch of different plays and play around with your
• 26:14
  alignments, play around with, you know where you where you're
• 26:18
  deploying guys. So he gives you that type of
• 26:20
  flexibility and he's a hitter, man.
• 26:23
  I think that's the big thing is, is is he's a hitter.
• 26:26
  He comes in fast, he plays fast, he plays loose, he likes to
• 26:30
  knock the shit out of people all.
• 26:32
  Right. Tally what?
• 26:33
  What you got on? Him mainly, you know, Brian kind
• 26:37
  of hit the nail on the head. I mean, anytime you can go and
• 26:39
  get a little bit of, you know, college experience and things
• 26:42
  like that and be able to come back like I'm all for that.
• 26:47
  You know what I'm saying? Because when you, I like what
• 26:50
  Pride's building and how he's building it.
• 26:52
  Because when it's somebody out there, you automatically think
• 26:55
  we got a chance at them if they're from here.
• 26:58
  Because, you know, you look at APR and him coming back and the
• 27:02
  things he was able to do like that's the poster child, you
• 27:05
  know what I mean? But the only thing that I'm a
• 27:08
  little bit kind of leery of is the school that he came from in
• 27:11
  high school. You know like that that that LCA
• 27:16
  school whatever it's called life Christian Academy.
• 27:18
  Like I'm not from there. I just got to go by what I hear,
• 27:23
  you know and I don't hear good things about the competition
• 27:26
  that they play, you know even how the school is set up and
• 27:29
  things like that. So I'm not set.
• 27:32
  I'm not sold on that but I'm I'm, I'm interested to see what
• 27:36
  the kid can do. It's a definitely the pick up
• 27:39
  you know what I'm saying? It gives you, it gives you what
• 27:41
  you need to to fill that spot and and I'm interested to see
• 27:45
  what he can come in and do. I'll tell you this though,
• 27:49
  Tally, coming from Gloucester and going to LCA, he's actually
• 27:53
  took, he probably took a step up in competition because
• 27:57
  Gloucester's out there, Northern nags.
• 28:00
  Gloucester sounds like his country.
• 28:02
  Oh, his country. It's right on the water.
• 28:05
  It's small though. It's a it's just a river.
• 28:08
  It's it's just a rivertown with a high school.
• 28:11
  Yeah, it's true. Now, the one of the bigger
• 28:14
  things that they do play every year is they do play teams like
• 28:19
  they do play. Teams like the math and they got
• 28:21
  smoked by the math, but it's. But then they're also playing
• 28:25
  teams where it's just like, God, they're not playing.
• 28:28
  They're not playing like your Benedictines.
• 28:31
  You always have some good players come out.
• 28:33
  They're not playing like the teams from Lynchburg.
• 28:36
  I don't know. You look at their schedule,
• 28:38
  Brian, it's just. I don't know it's all.
• 28:41
  Over the place. It is so weird.
• 28:42
  Weird. It's weird Play the math every
• 28:45
  you you get some stuff. So absolutely boys.
• 28:49
  This isn't on a rundown but it just got reported I think at the
• 28:54
  end of yesterday. Lamar Law no longer on the Vt
• 28:58
  roster. I have not I have not personally
• 29:02
  read anything that why he's left.
• 29:05
  We know he tried to flip to offensive line.
• 29:09
  You know, I, I'm, I'm, I'm hoping nothing but the best form
• 29:12
  regardless of the situation but no longer on the roster.
• 29:17
  So if you did not see that that was yesterday, did did y'all
• 29:22
  either see anything on it? I mean, I know he's been
• 29:25
  fighting some injuries, so I mean, I don't know if it's
• 29:28
  related to to those aspects or what, but he's been fighting
• 29:31
  some injuries the last couple couple offseasons, so.
• 29:36
  Yeah, like like Brian said, I mean I'm nowadays I'm off for
• 29:40
  kids. You know when you go to college
• 29:44
  it's a different, it's a different animal.
• 29:46
  You know what I'm saying? Whether you're trying to catch
• 29:47
  up to the speed or you're trying to catch up to the size and
• 29:51
  sometimes you just can't get on the field at certain schools.
• 29:54
  You know, if I'm somewhere and I just, I can't get on the field
• 29:57
  or I can't find my position, sometimes you got to take a take
• 30:01
  a step and and do something different.
• 30:02
  I'm not saying that's 100% what happened.
• 30:05
  I just hope that you know, like you said, hoping the best for
• 30:08
  any kid that that is going and and and making a transition so.
• 30:14
  Yeah, yeah, whatever. Whatever he's doing, whether if
• 30:16
  he is transferring schools to play football elsewhere, best of
• 30:19
  luck to him. If he's staying at Tech, best of
• 30:21
  luck to him getting his degree, finding those opportunities in
• 30:24
  the world to make the best for himself.
• 30:28
  All righty, I know this is big for y'all.
• 30:30
  Big for me, even though I hadn't played one of the newer.
• 30:33
  I think the last time I played a newer game, Brian, was when you
• 30:35
  had 14 when our boys were about three years old and I came up to
• 30:39
  your house a couple Saturdays and we hung out and played 14.
• 30:42
  But if you didn't see college football, 25 is set to be
• 30:45
  released in just a couple months.
• 30:46
  Here, they had the trailers of a bunch of intros, but somehow
• 30:50
  those stupid idiots at EA Sports left off the most iconic intro
• 30:54
  in the game today. So y'all's takes, because I
• 30:59
  don't have APS 5. So I will be going to Brian's
• 31:03
  house at some point in July. I just may bring Jack over.
• 31:06
  We might say have a sleepover or something.
• 31:09
  We'll we'll have a nice, nice, long Saturday and then the kids
• 31:14
  can sleep over. There you go.
• 31:17
  Yeah, man, I was a little disappointed we didn't see any
• 31:21
  Hokies in there. Yeah, and and more so because we
• 31:26
  saw Boston College and Duke. And like, because yeah, I seen,
• 31:30
  I seen a couple people say, well that's what happens when you you
• 31:33
  suck for this long and I'm like some other people in there to
• 31:36
  suck too, so. I don't think sucking has
• 31:39
  anything. To do with it.
• 31:41
  That's what she said. Yeah, right.
• 31:46
  So I was a little, you know, I didn't dig too deep into it
• 31:49
  because I know that's just the initial trailer and they're
• 31:52
  going to have plenty of more come out.
• 31:55
  I just need to see us on something.
• 31:57
  I need to see us on one of them, you know what I'm saying?
• 32:00
  So we'll see. Curtis I just.
• 32:04
  Want to play it? That's it I.
• 32:06
  Don't have APS Five or the Xbox? Whatever's coming out.
• 32:09
  Hey, you know what? Look, look what Robbie's trying
• 32:11
  to do here, Brian. Brian I'm paying a lot of money
• 32:15
  to take my Boise to the Bahamas next year.
• 32:17
  OK. I mean I am 2.
• 32:20
  No you ain't 'cause you're only paying for one.
• 32:21
  I'm paying for three. That's fair.
• 32:23
  I'm paying more for sure, but. I'm paying a lot more.
• 32:26
  Let's not even get into that semantics, and also just bought
• 32:31
  them a game system two years ago with the with the Switch.
• 32:34
  So we'll see. It'll just be hanging out.
• 32:39
  Just come up it. It just gives more reason to
• 32:40
  come over to your house on the weekends.
• 32:42
  It's true. It's true man.
• 32:46
  You know, I I've seen some some theories floated out there as to
• 32:49
  why we're not in there, though I don't know if y'all saw those I.
• 32:52
  Saw Yeah, of course. You know we we we got the, it's
• 32:56
  the uniform theory is what we're throwing it out there.
• 32:58
  Like you know they probably got the new uniforms.
• 33:02
  So they're not going to put that out there because we haven't
• 33:04
  announced it yet. Right.
• 33:06
  Well, why don't they just announce it then, and then they
• 33:08
  can put the trailer like then just do like the full intro of
• 33:13
  the trailer, right of just Sandman and her.
• 33:16
  I understand, man. I mean that'd.
• 33:18
  Be sick. That would be sick.
• 33:20
  But at the same time, like, I don't know, like my, my, I guess
• 33:24
  that theory checks it makes as much sense as, you know, we're
• 33:29
  not on there because we're dookie so because.
• 33:33
  There's a lot more dookie on there.
• 33:34
  Than what I saw it it makes just as much sense as that theory.
• 33:39
  So I mean if we're, if we're talking you know relevancy, I
• 33:42
  mean one is just as good as the other at this point.
• 33:45
  But I mean, let's let's talk uniforms because we at least
• 33:48
  have gotten word that they are coming, they're coming in the
• 33:52
  next week or so. And you know what?
• 33:54
  Whoa, I thought I saw a month. Or so.
• 33:57
  No, the the quote was week or so.
• 33:59
  Who was this? Oh, was this probably last
• 34:01
  night? Or that's no, that's when that's
• 34:03
  what Wit said when he put I. Think that was AI?
• 34:05
  Think that was a a mess up? And that or so is doing a lot of
• 34:09
  heavy fucking lifting. Damn right.
• 34:13
  For real something. Something that I did forget
• 34:17
  though on on Perry, I was looking up.
• 34:20
  I I couldn't remember who was his teammate but Quinn, Sean
• 34:24
  Junkins, Judkins, that's going to Ohio State.
• 34:28
  He played on that Pike Road team.
• 34:30
  They won a championship the year they were seniors.
• 34:33
  But the one that's going to Ohio State, I think he was at Ole
• 34:35
  Miss. He was at running back on that
• 34:37
  team and Curtis Perry was the best player on that team still.
• 34:43
  You know, so that's saying a lot.
• 34:45
  Curtis Perry. Curtis Perry had like 25 sacks.
• 34:49
  The next person behind him had maybe four.
• 34:53
  It was a big he. He was a big deal in in high
• 34:56
  school. But in that 10 now they were
• 34:58
  like 14. To know that.
• 34:59
  Yeah. So again none of that stuff
• 35:01
  matters in college. But if he can, if he can get
• 35:05
  back to who he is and and get a chance to get on the field along
• 35:09
  with what else we have on that defensive line and definitely,
• 35:13
  definitely be fun to watch all. Right.
• 35:15
  Well, let's let's cross the fingers.
• 35:16
  Get the man, let JC. Let JC cook.
• 35:20
  That's right, let JC cook. I got to, I got to give him his
• 35:22
  props. As of now, I got to let him do
• 35:24
  what he's been doing, so. You're damn right a lot of
• 35:27
  people shat on him over the last 18 months, and it they didn't,
• 35:30
  they didn't have to eat their words.
• 35:32
  By the way, what? What's your perfect uniform for
• 35:35
  Y'all? If y'all have well, I know
• 35:39
  orange for you. Make make one that looks like
• 35:44
  this. Make one that looks like it.
• 35:46
  Maybe it's a whole? Line 1 No, I'm joking, man.
• 35:49
  I mean. Tally, What's that Tony Bahama
• 35:51
  edition of The Hoagie? What?
• 35:53
  What's a perfect? I I never even thought about it.
• 35:55
  What's a perfect uniform to you, Brian?
• 35:59
  I like something clean. I think what I what I'd like to
• 36:03
  see is something similar to the 99 but give it a little bit more
• 36:10
  etching. Like if you combine 99 with with
• 36:13
  what we had and kind of the like O4 to O6 with the little like
• 36:19
  piping stripes that would be kind of fire to me.
• 36:26
  I'd like to see something like that.
• 36:27
  Hokey stones. Hokey stone in the numbers.
• 36:31
  I like, I like, I like hokey stone numbers.
• 36:33
  Yeah, that's probably the best element of the current.
• 36:35
  Journey that is the best element so that it's like it's it's like
• 36:42
  go old school bring some of the slight new elements make it a
• 36:45
  little upgraded put the hokey stones now the one thing I don't
• 36:49
  think should be a hokey stone and tell you going to love this.
• 36:52
  The arms should stay orange. Numbers.
• 36:54
  Yeah. I like I do like this.
• 36:58
  That was that was so unique because usually everybody, it's
• 37:02
  whatever's here is here. And for those years it was
• 37:05
  white, but the arm was always 7. It.
• 37:08
  Was always orange. It was always beautiful because
• 37:10
  it really it's set out. No stripes.
• 37:14
  No stripes. God no stripes.
• 37:16
  I I'm OK with some piping, but no stripes, yeah.
• 37:19
  Piping I think the. I think the main thing with me,
• 37:21
  because I'm not a designer you know what I'm saying?
• 37:23
  But I what I want to see is combinations.
• 37:27
  You know what I'm saying? I ain't saying you got to go
• 37:30
  with you ain't got to be Oregon. You know what I'm saying?
• 37:33
  But don't be Alabama. You know give me give me 6 to 10
• 37:40
  different combinations. You know what I'm and I ain't
• 37:42
  saying different like different jerseys but you got you can have
• 37:48
  three to four different pants, three to four different jerseys
• 37:50
  and you can mix them up. I just want some clean
• 37:53
  combinations. Throw some clean helmets, throw
• 37:57
  some clean helmets in there and just give me all orange uniform.
• 38:00
  I mean, orange is one of the colors.
• 38:02
  Give us the orange. The kids love it.
• 38:04
  I love it. They look good in it.
• 38:06
  I don't know, somebody said something about the y'all.
• 38:12
  Remember the the the orange uniforms that we wore against
• 38:16
  UNC when we killed them the year?
• 38:19
  Whatever. I can't remember what year it
• 38:20
  was. I don't think.
• 38:22
  Yeah, I don't. I'm not on the basketball
• 38:25
  jerseys. It looks great with that font.
• 38:27
  I don't like it on the football jerseys, it looks it don't
• 38:31
  something. So don't do that.
• 38:33
  If you don't do that to me, I think I'll be OK with the other
• 38:36
  stuff. This is what I think would do
• 38:38
  for orange. Go all orange, everything that's
• 38:40
  fine. A flat orange.
• 38:42
  Keep your whites like white, Vt helmet, white numbers, but then
• 38:47
  throw the maroon 7 on the side, the maroon number on the side.
• 38:52
  I'll I say 7 because I just I think 7 and I think Dick and
• 38:55
  Hal. That seven, I just pop it in a
• 38:58
  maroon on the side, but keep it, keep it flat.
• 39:01
  Don't, don't try to brighten it up.
• 39:03
  Keep it a flat orange versus a bright orange because that to me
• 39:08
  when you look at what's on my shirt right here and even your
• 39:11
  hat tally, that's not the Super bright orange.
• 39:13
  It's just enough. But the orange that you have,
• 39:16
  like the orange that's in the the oranges in the logo and the
• 39:19
  oranges that you have is more the traditional orange that we
• 39:22
  used to, more of a you don't want to say burnt orange because
• 39:25
  you think about Texas, but it is that more darker flat orange.
• 39:28
  It ain't like a we started getting to some pastel oranges
• 39:32
  or something. Yeah, like, I like orange, but I
• 39:35
  ain't. I don't go crazy on it like
• 39:36
  that. You know what I'm.
• 39:38
  Saying Nike fucked up the pallets Nike.
• 39:40
  Pallets Hey, yeah, they was. They was doing some crazy shit
• 39:44
  for a little. Bit.
• 39:44
  All right, there we go. We just spent 8 minutes talking
• 39:46
  about uniforms. So let's let's move on.
• 39:50
  And Brian, you threw on here. Is the ACC officially on life
• 39:54
  support? If Y'all haven't had a chance,
• 39:56
  go read Ross Dellinger over at Yahoo Sports.
• 39:58
  I'm going to make a little. The best paragraph from this
• 40:02
  article he wrote about the ACC meetings last week.
• 40:05
  Two of its most unruly children, Florida State and Clemson, are
• 40:08
  causing disruptions as they work to leave the family behind.
• 40:13
  Half Dozen and y'all know that's including us of their siblings,
• 40:17
  wish they had the resources and the wherewithal to join them.
• 40:19
  Another group, clinging to their morals and missions, are content
• 40:23
  nestled quietly in their beds, avoiding trouble at all costs,
• 40:27
  angry fists raised towards the misbehaving brethren.
• 40:31
  I I I think that sums it up perfectly.
• 40:35
  Yeah, and I think, you know, I think the problem with those
• 40:38
  folks angry with, you know, the the misbehaving brethren are are
• 40:43
  misplaced because the ACC dug its own grave.
• 40:48
  You're damn right it did. In in the in when we talk about
• 40:51
  the modern landscape you can you can curse ESPN all you want to
• 40:55
  that that they they started it. The other big two conferences
• 40:58
  playing along that that put them in a precarious spot.
• 41:02
  But the ACC being inactive after that awful media deal put them
• 41:09
  in a situation where they can no longer compete.
• 41:12
  Right. So you you signed a bad deal and
• 41:16
  then you didn't do anything to rectify it when you had the
• 41:18
  leverage to do so. Those two things are why your
• 41:22
  conference is not going to exist in the next few years.
• 41:27
  Yep. I mean, I'm tired of people that
• 41:29
  just got money sitting back and just continuing to make money
• 41:32
  and not making changes. So pay the people who are here
• 41:36
  making the money. You know what I'm saying?
• 41:37
  Stop being greedy like you say. You dug your own grave.
• 41:43
  If you if you if you're willing to make changes.
• 41:45
  We wouldn't continue having to talk about this.
• 41:48
  The the the college landscape is changing and we refuse to
• 41:53
  change. We being the ACC and the
• 41:56
  question was is it a life support that plug is somebody's
• 42:02
  hands on that plug so it's about to get pulled it's close and.
• 42:08
  Brian, I'm going to go back to what you said, and it was about
• 42:10
  a year ago that all the shit started coming out with the PAC
• 42:14
  12 dying. When you talk about the brands
• 42:17
  of football out there, that the ACC was in a better position to
• 42:21
  go get right, like going to get Colorado, go get Utah, going to
• 42:27
  get Arizona, Arizona State, one of those schools going to get
• 42:31
  maybe one of those schools in the Upper Northwest.
• 42:35
  The taking was there, right? Like you can save yourself, go
• 42:38
  get these good passionate fan bases in different parts of the
• 42:41
  country to bring in more revenue.
• 42:43
  You get to renegotiate your deal.
• 42:45
  And they sat there. They sat there.
• 42:48
  They sat there through the loose partnership, then.
• 42:52
  Then the Big 10 acted and got you.
• 42:55
  Yeah. And then.
• 42:56
  And then they kept sitting. And then?
• 42:59
  Oregon or Washington 2? Months.
• 43:01
  Yes, just you got. If you should have acted before
• 43:05
  before the Big 10, you waited on the Big 10 act.
• 43:08
  You should have acted as soon as you could after that, and you
• 43:13
  didn't. Stupid.
• 43:15
  That's all I'm going to. Say then you got the leavings.
• 43:17
  You got, you got pretty much everyone that wasn't Wazoo and
• 43:22
  Oregon State. Yes, that's that's basically
• 43:24
  what you got. You got the leavings.
• 43:26
  And the sad part about what they got is you take a look, those
• 43:30
  two fan bases are passionate. They're big public schools, like
• 43:33
  2535 thousand people. They're passionate fan bases.
• 43:38
  And you go get Stanford and Cal. Who are the two least passionate
• 43:41
  fan bases out there? The least passionate.
• 43:45
  Yes, you can and you have money, but you know what ratings and
• 43:50
  people watching the programs or what's going to make you thrive
• 43:53
  and basically. People need to care.
• 43:56
  Like right now no one cares about the ACC and and and I'm
• 43:59
  thinking about the the teams that are in the ACC.
• 44:02
  I don't think anyone really cares about the ACC anymore.
• 44:06
  Yeah, I'm serious. Yeah.
• 44:09
  So I think that's the biggest problem in the in when you look
• 44:13
  at those teams like Wazoo and Oregon State and like, yeah,
• 44:18
  they got past their fan bases, but like are they, they're not
• 44:24
  going to be excited about the ACC, just like we weren't
• 44:26
  excited about their media markets so.
• 44:30
  You effectively had the chance. The chance was the 2nd USC and
• 44:34
  UCLA went to the Big 10. You should have went up to that
• 44:36
  upper Northwest and looked at UW and looked at Oregon and just
• 44:39
  said listen, you know it's falling apart.
• 44:43
  We got Clemson, we got Florida State, we've got some of these
• 44:46
  other big name programs on the East Coast.
• 44:49
  You know you can get eyes on you but they didn't.
• 44:51
  They sat there, they did the the what, what, no business person
• 44:55
  can do and we three work for companies.
• 44:58
  You cannot just sit there and not act and that's what they did
• 45:01
  and therefore it's going to die. I just hope we land somewhere.
• 45:04
  I just hope we land where we need to land.
• 45:06
  I know we'll land somewhere. We need to land where we need to
• 45:09
  land, and we need the land where we need.
• 45:11
  That's that's one of the P twos. We need to go out.
• 45:13
  We need to go out and. Win.
• 45:15
  Yeah, so. But speaking about, you know,
• 45:20
  sitting around and doing nothing, Dabo.
• 45:23
  Oh God, do you have the quote? Please tell me you have the
• 45:26
  quote. I got to find the quote.
• 45:27
  Man, I I can paraphrase it. Which one do you want me to
• 45:31
  paraphrase? Because there was two out there
• 45:33
  that struck A struck A chord, I think.
• 45:36
  The the, the one that I want is the portal quote because the
• 45:40
  portal quote is the best one because go look at some of the
• 45:44
  people that are getting scholarships on that roster.
• 45:47
  Hey Curtis, can I tell you, did you, did you know this, that
• 45:49
  zero players that were in the transfer portal in the last
• 45:52
  three or four cycles are cleansing worthy?
• 45:54
  Because that's basically what he fucking said.
• 45:58
  That's basically what. He said.
• 46:00
  And they ain't won no championship it.
• 46:02
  Actually got worse. Dabo was being retarded, no?
• 46:06
  Excuse me, might not need to say that Dabo is being dumb.
• 46:10
  Dabo used to have a roster full of Arctavius and and and
• 46:16
  Deshaun's. Now you want wheels and and and
• 46:21
  John's. You better go back and get some
• 46:23
  Deshaun's boy, because it's getting a little different
• 46:27
  looking over there. I knew they was.
• 46:30
  They. Yeah, when they got a white
• 46:31
  running back, I knew it was. Over.
• 46:33
  It was over. They were cooked.
• 46:34
  Oh. I said.
• 46:35
  The gun over there. Hold.
• 46:36
  On Shipley was sick. Shipley was good.
• 46:39
  I got to get me. Was.
• 46:40
  Sick. Don't.
• 46:41
  He might, he might, he might have been.
• 46:42
  He might have been mixed a little bit of something and I
• 46:45
  can't and I can't take nothing away.
• 46:48
  Christian McCaffrey. Christian McCaffrey.
• 46:50
  He's got a drop, right? But no, Dabo Dabo would be on
• 46:55
  some Dabo shit, man. That's why we can't, That's why
• 46:58
  we cannot lose when they come to the House this year.
• 47:02
  We got to we got to make him look ridiculous.
• 47:04
  And I mean, because he says ridiculous stuff like like
• 47:07
  saying we're all about the transfer portal.
• 47:10
  Every player. We had transfers from high
• 47:12
  school to college. Motherfucker, you can't you
• 47:16
  can't be that all. Shucks man, what the hell all?
• 47:23
  Righty. Just it's it's Hey, listen.
• 47:25
  Better for us. It's better for us.
• 47:28
  I mean, if we, if we, if we make a, we turn a giant just into a
• 47:33
  big guy. Like that's something, yeah.
• 47:39
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  Up man. Last week we made an
• 49:11
  announcement that the Boundary Corner family was growing.
• 49:15
  One of our members had been on with us a couple weeks prior.
• 49:18
  Shelton Moss, our sports analytics guy loves Sheldon.
• 49:24
  He's going to be joining us in just a couple weeks and a lot
• 49:26
  throughout the year. But buddy, we going to go from a
• 49:30
  from a three man from a two man band to a three man band
• 49:33
  tonight. And without further ado, we
• 49:39
  welcome our new Co host, Jonathan Tally.
• 49:42
  Tally, how are you tonight, Sir? What's going on guys?
• 49:46
  What is going on? Doing wonderful tonight, man.
• 49:49
  That's the last time we're going to have to bring you on mid
• 49:52
  midstream, man. From here on out, we're going to
• 49:55
  roll it from the gate. Curtis and Brian had a baby, and
• 49:59
  that baby looks like me. This is what you got.
• 50:02
  This is. What you got The combination,
• 50:05
  Listen combination baby. The combination of Brian
• 50:08
  Curtis's Dally Listen man, it is so awesome to have you now as
• 50:12
  part of this. Buddy, we got a full house
• 50:14
  tonight. How you feeling?
• 50:16
  Man, just take a good look at the screen right now because
• 50:20
  Silver Stoke Few is going to wreak so much havoc on Hokey
• 50:23
  Nation going forward. Tally, our full time Third Co
• 50:28
  host, Shelton, our full time data analytics, sports analytics
• 50:34
  expert part time Co host, the four of us now right here at the
• 50:39
  Boundary Corner podcast. There we go.
• 50:43
  That's what we are now all. Right.
• 50:49
  That was just a little over a year ago where we expanded from
• 50:54
  2:00 to 3:00 and then to 4. And in the last year it has been
• 51:00
  a ride. Man, I I tell you what, Tally
• 51:02
  still so happy that you were part of this, gotten to know you
• 51:06
  even better. Got to meet you.
• 51:10
  And. We we, we text all the time.
• 51:13
  We talk all the time. We get on.
• 51:14
  We're on a call today just chatting about what we're going
• 51:16
  to do tonight and it's awesome, man.
• 51:18
  And and Sheldon's out there, Sheldon's working by the way.
• 51:21
  He will be back with us at some point over the next.
• 51:24
  The hardest working Man in BCP. Sheldon Moss.
• 51:28
  Yes he is, but man it it's been so awesome these last this last
• 51:34
  year plus and having all y'all and and and I'm so glad both
• 51:39
  y'all chose to come and be part of this stuff man.
• 51:44
  Yeah man, it's been a it's been a great ride man.
• 51:46
  It's been it's only getting better.
• 51:47
  You know we we we just get on here and have fun.
• 51:51
  We just get on here and and and do what we've we've been doing
• 51:54
  for years. We just share it with the world.
• 51:57
  You know we just we just find new new family members every
• 52:01
  week. You know what I'm saying?
• 52:02
  We're so thankful for everybody who tunes in.
• 52:05
  You guys spend time with us. I mean I get so many calls and
• 52:08
  texts and you know messages and things like that or people whose
• 52:13
  at at at the job, you know listening to, listening to the
• 52:16
  podcast and of course we love when you guys get on live and
• 52:20
  we're able to have some interaction with you.
• 52:23
  Even if you are a Miami fan, we still love you and we ain't
• 52:26
  going to hold it against you. But you know honestly man, it's
• 52:30
  been a a wonderful ride to think like for me being nervous and
• 52:35
  and and and scared to step out to do something new for these
• 52:40
  guys pushing me to say, you know hey come join us and we'll make
• 52:44
  it work. And it's been nothing but love
• 52:48
  since I've been here, man. I'm just you know full of joy
• 52:51
  and and excited for what we've accomplished in the past year,
• 52:54
  the growth that we've seen. And I mean that's just getting
• 52:58
  started like we we got a long way to go.
• 53:01
  We got a lot of stuff that's still out there for the for BCP.
• 53:04
  Oh. Yeah, yeah, we go, we're going
• 53:07
  to keep doing our thing. We're going to keep growing and
• 53:09
  it's it's going to be a lovely thing to watch and it's been an
• 53:14
  awesome year plus having you and Shelton on board, man.
• 53:18
  It's been amazing watching how that was the catalyst for a lot
• 53:24
  of the growth we've seen in the last year and just appreciative
• 53:29
  of what you bring to the table and and and everything that you
• 53:32
  do for the show, man, it's been, it's been a blessing.
• 53:36
  Definitely has. Now what we're doing tonight in
• 53:40
  the second-half is just a little retrospective of a lot of our
• 53:43
  conversations with coaches, players, media members, friends,
• 53:49
  friends, you know, Mike and David Robbie.
• 53:52
  People have been on Friends it. It's always great to have and
• 53:59
  believe it or not, it was a year ago tomorrow I think, right,
• 54:03
  Brian, it was May 22nd. Does that sound right?
• 54:06
  That sounds right. Something I I think we probably
• 54:09
  all three never thought we'd do. We sat down on a Zoom call and
• 54:13
  interviewed the head coach of Virginia Tech cokies.
• 54:16
  He gave us damn near an hour all the and it's just, I know it was
• 54:22
  just, it was one of those surreal moments, right.
• 54:24
  It was just like that's the coach.
• 54:26
  Like that's that is the the, the, the leader of the team we
• 54:29
  follow. He's giving us time, you know.
• 54:36
  I mean one of the one of the one of the biggest things for me,
• 54:39
  man, it's like it's just me being a fan.
• 54:42
  And I mean that's great. Don't get me wrong, Coach being
• 54:45
  able to talk to Coach, pride of the leader of the program that
• 54:48
  we love and we follow was great. But to have Kyron come on the
• 54:52
  show and like I said, man, like for me, being in the position
• 54:56
  that I was in with my son being hurt and Kyron before the show
• 55:01
  saying, hey man, I know your son's hurt, just tell him to
• 55:04
  hang in there and having that conversation, just, he didn't
• 55:08
  have to do that. You know what I'm saying?
• 55:10
  Like to have people, to have a family that extends beyond your
• 55:15
  reach, that's sending prayers up for your family is what this is
• 55:20
  about. It's what this community is
• 55:21
  about. You know, his dad, his family,
• 55:25
  praying for my family and all of us being family, like just stuff
• 55:29
  like that is why I'm so excited about being a part of this
• 55:34
  community and being able to be, you know, a part of this this
• 55:38
  podcast. I mean, you meeting Michael Vick
• 55:42
  was great. You know, meeting prize great,
• 55:44
  all of this stuff is wonderful. But things like that, man, it's
• 55:48
  priceless. You can't, you can't put a, you
• 55:50
  can't put a a number on that, you know what I mean?
• 55:52
  So that's awesome. Yeah.
• 55:54
  And I think that, you know, you said it's ally, like community
• 55:57
  is the big thing, right? So like, you know when when we
• 56:01
  go to Blacksburg, we when you know when me and Curtis went out
• 56:03
  to the Tailgate tour. Like.
• 56:05
  Just interacting with with people that love Hokie Nation,
• 56:10
  love the same things that we do and appreciate the things that
• 56:13
  we're bringing to the table from a content perspective.
• 56:16
  And just sharing in that love has been incredible.
• 56:23
  You know, between, you know, tally me and you going down and
• 56:27
  and doing the the pregame show last year, doing the pregame
• 56:30
  show again this year with with those boys.
• 56:32
  I mean, you know what, the opportunities that we've had
• 56:36
  because of this, to grow that community and be a part of that
• 56:41
  has been I think the biggest, biggest blessing of this whole
• 56:43
  thing. Oh yeah, definitely. 1000% All
• 56:47
  right, so let's do some retrospective, boys.
• 56:49
  Let's look at some clips over the last year plus.
• 56:53
  And our interviews. With Coach Pry, some stuff, just
• 56:57
  us some stuff with some of the players and let's start with
• 57:01
  this one, Brian. This was with Coach Pry last
• 57:04
  year in the message that he sent when it talked about getting to
• 57:08
  know the players. It's a big area, emphasis and I
• 57:14
  think in year one it's hard to to know enough about each guy.
• 57:19
  You hadn't been around him enough.
• 57:20
  Yeah. You know, and that's all on the
• 57:22
  field, that's off the field, That's all of it.
• 57:25
  So when you have a whole cycle with them and you just feel a
• 57:28
  little better about what you know and you can work on things.
• 57:31
  So I think we did a good job there, much better job, myself
• 57:34
  and the staff. And then the additional piece is
• 57:37
  just, you know, really being the best head coach I can be.
• 57:42
  Yes, Sir. Definitely.
• 57:43
  Instead of spending half my time back in the defensive room, I
• 57:47
  was able to spend a bunch of time right here at this desk
• 57:50
  doing head coaching duty. And so that was coach probably
• 58:02
  talking about that year one or year two transition and both of
• 58:06
  you guys, you know play collegiate football And and I
• 58:09
  want to get kind of your take on that because the way he talked
• 58:12
  about it is I came in in December, I got like 5 months to
• 58:16
  know these kids and and he mentions that.
• 58:22
  What does that say to y'all? Not only him as a coach, but but
• 58:26
  like maybe what we saw last year.
• 58:31
  I'll let Brian start. Yeah, I mean, I think the big
• 58:35
  thing is that, you know, he is big on relationships, right?
• 58:39
  So needing to establish that relationship I think was big for
• 58:43
  him. And I think coming in and I
• 58:46
  don't think Proud was ever going to be a guy that was Dion style
• 58:49
  coming in and like I'm a clear house, I'm going to bring in all
• 58:52
  my guys. He was going to establish
• 58:55
  relationships with who was there, get to know those guys,
• 58:58
  figure out what their strengths were, what their weaknesses were
• 59:02
  and then make evaluations based on that given his honest
• 59:05
  perspective and not just whatever the knee jerk reaction
• 59:08
  was in those first few weeks together, right.
• 59:12
  So I think that's where it probably plays into into the
• 59:16
  most of that relationship building and those relationships
• 59:18
  take time. But you know I think we saw
• 59:21
  going into last year and kind of after the adversity of the first
• 59:24
  month like they started to fully buy into to to that piece of it.
• 59:29
  And you know that's a tight knit group now and and I think it all
• 59:32
  started back in in that groundwork that was laid in year
• 59:35
  one. Yeah, yeah, definitely kind of
• 59:40
  the same thing. I was thinking, you know, as far
• 59:43
  as, like you say, relationships. It's honestly man, I didn't know
• 59:48
  much about Pryor when he got the job.
• 59:51
  You know, I went by Robbie talking to us people that I
• 59:54
  trust, Robbie, Dwight, Victoria, you know what I'm saying?
• 59:59
  Telling us what kind of person they are, how they would come
• 1:00:03
  in, things they would do, how they would be able to recruit.
• 1:00:06
  And he's been true to who he is and true to his word.
• 1:00:08
  It's like he's been big on the the relationship aspect of it
• 1:00:12
  and he's when he came in, like Brian said, he was real careful
• 1:00:17
  with the. Evaluations of kids and families
• 1:00:22
  and positions, you know, like you don't have that because
• 1:00:27
  we've had a lot of turnover because we had to get some.
• 1:00:30
  We had to raise that floor, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:00:32
  Had to raise the floor and raise the ceiling so you don't have as
• 1:00:36
  much turnover as we had with no bad press unless somebody's
• 1:00:41
  doing something right. He's the head man, you know what
• 1:00:44
  I'm saying? I didn't think he would come in
• 1:00:46
  and be a flash in the pan type person all he came in and he had
• 1:00:49
  this great recruiting class and then that's it.
• 1:00:51
  You know what I'm saying? I want to win, but I'd much
• 1:00:55
  rather see this constant growth that he's doing.
• 1:00:59
  You know, it just seems to be building and building and
• 1:01:01
  getting better and getting better.
• 1:01:03
  So I've been excited, man. I, I, I keep going back to the
• 1:01:07
  shirt they had. That was what was the shirt?
• 1:01:10
  It was 3-7 and then yeah, question mark and then question
• 1:01:14
  mark like. I want one of those shirts.
• 1:01:16
  I want one of them shirts. That shirts is thick.
• 1:01:18
  Yeah, that that just kind of that kind of defines what I
• 1:01:22
  think about how he's came in and what he's been able to do.
• 1:01:25
  So I it's been it's been a fun ride to watch.
• 1:01:29
  It has. I think that's mentality and I
• 1:01:31
  think what he was talking about there with us is I want to get
• 1:01:33
  to know what makes you tick, what makes you work hard.
• 1:01:36
  What makes you be the best? What makes you learn and and
• 1:01:40
  tally? You mentioned something because
• 1:01:42
  you don't want to flash in the pan.
• 1:01:43
  Because we, fortunately for pretty much the 1st 25 years of
• 1:01:48
  our fandom, we didn't know what the hell a bad season was.
• 1:01:51
  Bad season was winning eight or nine games like it was 1011.
• 1:01:56
  We're going to go to championship games, we're going
• 1:01:58
  to win championships, we're going to go to big bowl games.
• 1:02:01
  So when you say Flash in the pan, Sheldon, you all know he's
• 1:02:05
  our numbers guy. He popped up something last year
• 1:02:08
  talking about year 2 versus year one and I think it resonates a
• 1:02:13
  little bit. You kind of correlate probably
• 1:02:15
  building those relationships and then what you see right here.
• 1:02:20
  What I found was that year one for head coach, a new head coach
• 1:02:23
  in Power Five was not really predictive of how well their
• 1:02:26
  hire was going to turn out, but year two was extremely
• 1:02:29
  predictive. So when we talk about, you know,
• 1:02:31
  new hires and rebuilding and you know how well they do in year
• 1:02:34
  one, Year two, you know, you look like Elko at Duke or Deion
• 1:02:37
  Sanders at Colorado. Really it's year 2 that's kind
• 1:02:39
  of like the make or break. If you're not successful in year
• 1:02:41
  2, it's not going to work out. If you are, you know, you need
• 1:02:44
  to be at least steadily improving.
• 1:02:46
  And I think year three is where most coaches would say that's
• 1:02:49
  where you kind of got it, need to get the ball rolling and I
• 1:02:51
  think Tech has a really prime opportunity to do that this this
• 1:02:55
  next season. So I I love that when he brought
• 1:02:59
  that up that he brought the data up about don't look at year one,
• 1:03:02
  because year one is so much of who the other guy had what was
• 1:03:06
  there already and so many people can take what's there and and
• 1:03:11
  and that's the whole make it make what is it the whole make a
• 1:03:14
  meal out of chicken shit. Something like that.
• 1:03:16
  I know I'm screwing up that phrase.
• 1:03:18
  Chicken salad. Out of chicken?
• 1:03:19
  Shit, chicken salad out of chicken shit.
• 1:03:20
  A lot of people can do that. It's that constant.
• 1:03:23
  Like you say, tally the growth, the building, because that's
• 1:03:27
  what is sustainable. That is what Mike Beamer was.
• 1:03:31
  Yeah, I got to give. I got to give Sheldon some a a
• 1:03:34
  shout out man, I I love that kid man.
• 1:03:37
  It I go back sometimes and look at some of his stuff because
• 1:03:40
  sometimes he gets to talking and he's too smart, like he's way
• 1:03:44
  smarter than I am. So I don't pay attention when
• 1:03:46
  he's saying it. I just know that it's probably
• 1:03:49
  right, you know what I mean? But I'll go back and I'll
• 1:03:52
  rewatch something months later or like I did today, I'll go
• 1:03:55
  back and I'll look at some clips him and Pete both of them too.
• 1:03:59
  I'll go back and watch something they said from like a year ago
• 1:04:02
  and I'm like, damn, they was right.
• 1:04:04
  You know what I'm saying? Oh, they was on the right path.
• 1:04:05
  Like Sheldon does that a lot. So if y'all are like me and you
• 1:04:09
  ain't paying attention when Sheldon talks, get in the corner
• 1:04:14
  and go listen to some of his analytics when he's spitting
• 1:04:16
  them because the boy is on point a lot of times, 100.
• 1:04:23
  Percent. And and and I'm going to lead
• 1:04:26
  into the next, this is another Shelton because we talked and I
• 1:04:30
  can't remember this one. This one was Brian.
• 1:04:32
  I think this was this was during March.
• 1:04:36
  This was the days down. Oh, my mistake.
• 1:04:40
  Yeah, this was leading. This was leading up to the
• 1:04:42
  spring game. Leading to the spring game.
• 1:04:43
  So we've already kind of got everybody locked in of who's
• 1:04:47
  going to be here for next year. And Sheldon wanted to focus on
• 1:04:50
  the defensive line and some numbers.
• 1:04:53
  Anything on the defensive ends? Not really.
• 1:04:57
  Honestly. I mean I like the continuity
• 1:04:59
  there. You know, I think I'm trying to
• 1:05:02
  refresh my a little bit. I mean you you got most of the
• 1:05:03
  guys returning, I think I think it'll be a pretty solid unit.
• 1:05:07
  I know that. I'm trying to think I believe it
• 1:05:09
  was Bill Connolly who said that returning production on the
• 1:05:13
  defensive line is actually more important than returning
• 1:05:16
  production to other positions. So if you have continuity there,
• 1:05:20
  I mean that's you're you're really set there.
• 1:05:22
  So I think I think the amount of returning production that tech
• 1:05:24
  has there is gonna bode pretty well.
• 1:05:26
  So I'm excited to see study and see how it turns out.
• 1:05:32
  And I I mean, and I and I know Shelton was looking at people's
• 1:05:36
  information. He was looking at APR Fuga Cole.
• 1:05:40
  Knowing him, he probably somehow wrangled his way into getting
• 1:05:44
  Kamari Copeland's information in there.
• 1:05:46
  But that defensive line, it's not, it's not a rebuild.
• 1:05:53
  I I look at that interior, y'all that interior isn't rebuilt.
• 1:05:57
  That interior is just, it's basically to me, it's upgraded
• 1:06:02
  and I love the guys that left like Kendricks and Pollard, but
• 1:06:05
  I think it's upgraded. Yeah, I mean it's so I think
• 1:06:08
  it's two things. I think the the overall level
• 1:06:12
  has come up just a little bit, but I think depth is the biggest
• 1:06:16
  thing. I mean you're talking about
• 1:06:17
  potentially, you know, Fuga being the, the 4th or 5th guy in
• 1:06:24
  this crew now where he kind of started last season, it's kind
• 1:06:27
  of that two or three, right. So things are kind of flipped a
• 1:06:32
  little bit and the depth has gotten better.
• 1:06:35
  I think the ceiling has gotten higher and and I think those are
• 1:06:38
  two really important things that you want to see at a defensive
• 1:06:41
  line. Competition that you just keep
• 1:06:48
  seeing competition. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:06:51
  Like it's always been, you know, one guy or man, I hope that I
• 1:06:57
  don't want nobody to go down. But man, if you go down, I don't
• 1:06:59
  know what we're going to do. When you got four and five guys
• 1:07:03
  and two and three guys that can not have much of A drop off,
• 1:07:08
  then you start building a roster.
• 1:07:10
  You know what I'm saying? So I I start seeing somebody
• 1:07:14
  come out with, oh, Virginia Tech has this many blue chips and
• 1:07:16
  stuff. I said.
• 1:07:16
  I'm not even looking at it yet because I don't even want to get
• 1:07:19
  that excited. I can't remember who released
• 1:07:21
  that, you know? But I'm saying to think about
• 1:07:25
  where we were in a. 100. Percent 2019-2020, you know what
• 1:07:30
  I'm saying to now? Like it.
• 1:07:33
  It's amazing, man. It's amazing.
• 1:07:35
  It's it's it's great to watch and I'm so excited for football
• 1:07:39
  season. By the way, you know who else is
• 1:07:41
  excited about this defensive line?
• 1:07:42
  JC Price. Yeah, he should be.
• 1:07:46
  He should be. JC, probably.
• 1:07:50
  Is he probably drunk right now? Eating some chicken wings?
• 1:07:55
  Thinking about what's going to happen during football season.
• 1:07:57
  Just watching tape and just watching tape, man, I got all
• 1:08:01
  this to eat with this. Year I got all these studs.
• 1:08:03
  Let's see what JC did have to say back in the winter when we
• 1:08:07
  talked to him. There was definitely a need to
• 1:08:11
  go out and get some guys who played a lot of ball and how
• 1:08:14
  blessed are we to get in these peoples, man.
• 1:08:16
  I mean you talk about a guy who can go proving proving player in
• 1:08:20
  the ACC All Conference. I mean God leave me.
• 1:08:24
  I pinch myself every day. I couldn't wait to get him on
• 1:08:27
  campus. Lucky man.
• 1:08:28
  I just pinching myself every day that would you know she did a
• 1:08:31
  great job with the prior relationship with the family and
• 1:08:34
  he would help recruit me Duke him with and you know and there
• 1:08:38
  was pressure on him to return to Duke and you know he stuck
• 1:08:42
  through his word and man he's on campus right now lighting it up.
• 1:08:46
  You know, Kelvin, Gillian, the Highland Springs guy, you know,
• 1:08:51
  I I I couldn't actually recruit him when he came out because I
• 1:08:53
  was at Marshall. So he was a little bit out of my
• 1:08:55
  range when I was at. Marshall but A.
• 1:08:58
  Little disappointed he didn't go to Tech to begin with, but he
• 1:09:00
  tends to go to Oklahoma and I think it's going to be a a
• 1:09:04
  really good deal for him. Man's excited.
• 1:09:11
  He's pumped, man. He's pumped.
• 1:09:12
  He's excited. And he and he should be.
• 1:09:14
  He should be excited. I mean, like he said, You listen
• 1:09:17
  to what he's saying. Like he was at Marshall.
• 1:09:19
  No disrespect to Marshall, I mean they whipped thy ass last
• 1:09:22
  year. But, you know, he couldn't
• 1:09:23
  recruit certain types of players.
• 1:09:26
  You know, when he was at Marshall and even when he got
• 1:09:28
  here, like he had to raise it to be able to go, OK, now I want
• 1:09:32
  you. Now I want you.
• 1:09:33
  I can put these people together. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:09:36
  To go get a Curtis Perry. They don't get, you know, aeneas
• 1:09:41
  people's you know, to pair them with APR like some high level
• 1:09:45
  names right there. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:09:49
  So now hell, from what he's already been doing, what he's
• 1:09:54
  built with, you know some of the guys that he's worked with in
• 1:09:57
  the past, it's like what is he going to do with these guys?
• 1:10:01
  You know what I'm saying? How pretty much you thinking,
• 1:10:04
  how high in a draft can we get? That's what you want out of some
• 1:10:08
  of the names that you got on the defensive line, you know what I
• 1:10:10
  mean? Oh yeah, and I mean all these
• 1:10:13
  guys. I think the common thread across
• 1:10:15
  of it is got these guys are disruptive, they they disrupt
• 1:10:19
  the lanes, they disrupt the rush lanes, they get after the
• 1:10:22
  passer. I I would not want to be a
• 1:10:24
  quarterback in the ACC this year because it's going to be Hokies
• 1:10:30
  coming at you from every part of that defensive line.
• 1:10:36
  That's true. That's very true.
• 1:10:39
  Now I'm going to flip it just a little different with the next
• 1:10:42
  little conversation here because just about a month ago we got to
• 1:10:45
  talk for Darius Payne and he talked about his journey, you
• 1:10:49
  know, this, you know, defensive lineman and he talked about his
• 1:10:52
  experience in JUCO and and for y'all who didn't see it, he was
• 1:10:56
  a pleasure to talk with, an absolute pleasure to talk with
• 1:10:59
  that night. You know, sign with the Texans,
• 1:11:02
  he'll be down there working, hopefully make some happen.
• 1:11:05
  But just to hear his journey right here about the JUCO in
• 1:11:09
  that and what it did for him, feel that going to a JUCO help
• 1:11:14
  with your development coming out of high school.
• 1:11:17
  I feel like JUCO really helped me fundamental wise like Coach
• 1:11:22
  Duda, he's a a very well known coach in the JUCO world and in
• 1:11:27
  the football world in general. Like if I go somewhere and I say
• 1:11:30
  I was at Lackawanna under Coach Duda, they say yeah, we know who
• 1:11:33
  that is. And him being the D line coach
• 1:11:36
  and the head coach, he started at ground one and was really
• 1:11:40
  building it up and we didn't. Have what?
• 1:11:45
  Probably any division have like we didn't we only sled if I'm be
• 1:11:50
  honest. But the stuff we did was it was
• 1:11:53
  very good that I believe it helped me a lot so.
• 1:12:04
  Not always do you have to be the highest product to come out.
• 1:12:08
  Go somewhere, develop yourself. And that's what it takes
• 1:12:14
  sometimes. And I think right now with what
• 1:12:16
  we've got going on with this staff is they right now there's
• 1:12:19
  no storm. Unturned.
• 1:12:21
  They went to two H they went to two HBCUS, found guys and
• 1:12:26
  brought them on. They popped, they went and found
• 1:12:28
  Division One guys, they popped, they went to to see USA and
• 1:12:32
  found it. They went to a basically a guy
• 1:12:35
  who went through a JUCO and they found it.
• 1:12:38
  Yep. And I think that's the that's
• 1:12:40
  the big thing. And you know we we've always
• 1:12:42
  talked about the relationship piece, but that that's where
• 1:12:46
  those things start because you know the relationship with Pride
• 1:12:50
  and Lackawanna, right There's there's a trust there.
• 1:12:55
  There was a relationship there. But also Pride, having a
• 1:12:59
  relationship with Pain when he, you know, was first getting
• 1:13:03
  recruited before he went to Nebraska and you know, being
• 1:13:07
  able to use that relationship to create a situation that was good
• 1:13:14
  for Fidarius and good for the Hokies, right.
• 1:13:18
  So, you know, when when Fidarius was talking about, you know,
• 1:13:22
  committing, he was, he was like, yeah, it didn't take me a whole
• 1:13:24
  lot to commit. I knew what pride was about That
• 1:13:27
  relationship was already there. So when we talk about going to
• 1:13:31
  all these different corners and turning those stones, he's
• 1:13:33
  turning those stones and he he has the ability to do that
• 1:13:35
  because of that relationship building, whether it's with the
• 1:13:38
  coaching staff there, whether it's with players that you know,
• 1:13:41
  he had recruited previously, those relationships matters and
• 1:13:45
  those relationships are paying off.
• 1:13:47
  And a school like Virginia Tech that is competitive in nil, but
• 1:13:50
  it's never going to be the best of the best in nil.
• 1:13:54
  You got to have those those relationships.
• 1:13:56
  Damn right. Yeah, definitely.
• 1:13:58
  And you know, man, it's always something about like a JUCO kid
• 1:14:01
  that's just a little bit different, like bite to him.
• 1:14:05
  Y'all. Remember, who was it?
• 1:14:06
  What's his name? Deshaun Crawford.
• 1:14:08
  Is that, was his? Was that his name?
• 1:14:09
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So even when he came to Virginia
• 1:14:16
  Tech, I ain't saying like his numbers was amazing or he just
• 1:14:20
  lit it up so much, but he just had a little bit different umph
• 1:14:22
  to him, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:14:23
  If you'll watch some of the games that he played, like them,
• 1:14:26
  the JUCO kids, man, they just got a little bit of a chip on
• 1:14:28
  the shoulder a lot of times. So don't discount them.
• 1:14:32
  You know what I mean? Don't discount them at all.
• 1:14:34
  Even like Jeremy Webb, you know, even though we didn't get to see
• 1:14:37
  what he had with us because he had injuries.
• 1:14:39
  But you know, he got the, he got when he went to what?
• 1:14:42
  He went to Kansas, right. Look good.
• 1:14:44
  And yeah, he looked good So. Hey, Jerrod Evans, Jerrod Evans.
• 1:14:50
  The go. You know what y'all know?
• 1:14:52
  One that's never talked about, but you always got to remember
• 1:14:54
  it. Corey Moore.
• 1:14:56
  Yep. Corey Moore's a JUCO guy.
• 1:14:58
  He played at one of the Juco's in Tennessee and.
• 1:15:00
  Yep. So did I mean thank?
• 1:15:02
  You all he did 25 years ago was bring every single Defensive
• 1:15:06
  Player of the Year hardware home.
• 1:15:08
  So it's crazy. So we talk about Juco's and how
• 1:15:11
  they get there and Tally's talking about the dogs.
• 1:15:14
  Don't leave it unturned. They didn't leave.
• 1:15:16
  One unturned Virginia Beach kid goes out to Iowa and back in our
• 1:15:20
  conversation on Matassas talking about Kamar Copeland.
• 1:15:25
  Question. I think a lot of people will
• 1:15:26
  jump and say Kamari Copeland just because you know, he played
• 1:15:30
  Iowa Western Community College like he's a you look at him
• 1:15:34
  like, I don't know if you guys have seen like those videos.
• 1:15:39
  He. Is unbelievable.
• 1:15:41
  Like he's absolutely unbelievable.
• 1:15:44
  He's he's got that mean streak in him, but he's also the the
• 1:15:47
  kindest guy you'll ever meet. Like he loves Virginia Tech.
• 1:15:51
  That guy is a mauler and super strong.
• 1:15:54
  I think, you know he'll fit in in the 2 deep at the very least.
• 1:15:58
  I think he could play right away.
• 1:16:03
  So again, there it is. No stone left unturned.
• 1:16:07
  And is that kind of pivotal. Where we're going to show next
• 1:16:11
  is when this offseason came and Pollard and Kendricks and Payne
• 1:16:18
  were gone. We sat here man.
• 1:16:21
  Like what? We going to do?
• 1:16:23
  What we going to do in defensive?
• 1:16:25
  I like Josh Fuga. He's a solid player and it
• 1:16:28
  doesn't look like anybody's behind him.
• 1:16:30
  Ready. Right.
• 1:16:31
  What do we do? Well, y'all we we talked again a
• 1:16:36
  year ago. We talked with Coach Pry and he
• 1:16:38
  addressed some weaknesses and he addressed what do they do?
• 1:16:42
  What does he talk about when he's talking about that?
• 1:16:46
  To being your first year and it's been your second year, was
• 1:16:50
  there any particular areas of focus that you kind of input it
• 1:16:55
  this year or focused on this year more than last year?
• 1:17:00
  Yeah, I think this, I think, you know it still get back, it still
• 1:17:04
  gets back to identifying the weaknesses with each guy on your
• 1:17:09
  roster. And that could be the best
• 1:17:12
  player on the team. It could be #125, but you have
• 1:17:15
  to be able to to talk identify those weaknesses and talk to
• 1:17:19
  those guys about it. And I'm sure in that defensive
• 1:17:27
  tackle room after the season was over, some hard conversations
• 1:17:32
  were had. Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 1:17:35
  Because you, you, you're thinking about looking forward
• 1:17:37
  to this year and you're already working and you like, OK,
• 1:17:42
  Kyron's coming back. This guy's coming back.
• 1:17:46
  They've talked this guy into coming back.
• 1:17:48
  OK. We've got this intact.
• 1:17:50
  We know when we were weak and again we've identified where
• 1:17:54
  we're weak at. What?
• 1:17:56
  What are we going to do about it?
• 1:17:59
  Yep. Probably talked with the
• 1:18:01
  probably first thing he did was talk with those players.
• 1:18:04
  He thought, OK, I'm up next. Yep.
• 1:18:07
  And you know, probably went into that man and he told him a
• 1:18:12
  pretty big line and let's, let's hear it from his mouth right
• 1:18:15
  here. Damn right.
• 1:18:18
  It's my job as the head coach to make this most, the most
• 1:18:21
  competitive roster in the country.
• 1:18:23
  That's my job. If I'm not doing that, I'm
• 1:18:26
  failing everybody in here. We all want to win a
• 1:18:28
  championship. The fans, the administration,
• 1:18:31
  the staff, the families, the players that the Letterman.
• 1:18:36
  So to do that, the roster has to be as competitive as we can be.
• 1:18:40
  I tell him I I told him that I'm bringing somebody in to take
• 1:18:43
  your job. That's what I'm doing, So you
• 1:18:46
  better be on your nose. That's as real as it gets.
• 1:18:49
  They understand it is they understand the climate of
• 1:18:52
  things. That still might be the best
• 1:18:57
  sound bite from that interview. That interview that we did that
• 1:19:00
  day, he was just straight up and and it's and it's not even A and
• 1:19:06
  it's not even a joke because you look at what we're doing, you
• 1:19:10
  know? Not only that all over the
• 1:19:12
  place. You know we we were an improving
• 1:19:16
  roster last year We we said well their struggles on certain parts
• 1:19:19
  and next thing you know we're going to do it.
• 1:19:24
  Yeah, I mean, that's exactly he is who he is.
• 1:19:28
  You know, until he shows me anything different again, I got
• 1:19:31
  to give Dwight a shout out. Dwight, me and him have had many
• 1:19:34
  conversations off, you know, just me and him talking and
• 1:19:38
  things he's told me and stories he's told me.
• 1:19:40
  And Pryor has lived up to everything he said and
• 1:19:43
  everything he is as far as what kind of person he is, what kind
• 1:19:46
  of man he is. And then like you said, I mean
• 1:19:49
  that's reflecting on this past year, looking at the things
• 1:19:53
  we've done here at BCP and the people that we've had here.
• 1:19:56
  Of course Coach Pride was here. You know, to hear that, that
• 1:19:59
  sound bite, that's that's powerful man.
• 1:20:02
  Like he told us that he told that to Hokey Nation.
• 1:20:07
  He told that to everybody. You know, some coaches would
• 1:20:09
  just say, well, I don't want to say that to everybody.
• 1:20:11
  You know, I just want to, I just want to have that behind closed
• 1:20:13
  doors or something, he said. Hey, I'm telling everybody we we
• 1:20:18
  we are trying to be the most competitive roster that's out
• 1:20:21
  there. I'm bringing somebody in to take
• 1:20:22
  your job. It is what it is.
• 1:20:24
  I mean, that's big boy football. That's big boy sports in
• 1:20:27
  general. You know what I'm saying at.
• 1:20:29
  At some point you got to understand if you want to get to
• 1:20:31
  where you got to go, you got to get better.
• 1:20:33
  So either you got to get better, I got to bring in somebody else
• 1:20:35
  that's going to get get get us better.
• 1:20:37
  Or they might make you better. Exactly one.
• 1:20:39
  One of the two. You know thinking about it's
• 1:20:43
  just crazy to me to think like where we come from.
• 1:20:46
  And no disrespect to anybody who's underrated, underrated or
• 1:20:51
  unranked because look at Dorian strong.
• 1:20:54
  You know what I'm saying? Like, but you can't build a
• 1:20:56
  roster of all Dorian strong's. You got to have some can't
• 1:20:59
  misses, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:21:01
  Especially when they're close to they're in your recruiting
• 1:21:05
  footprint. Look at our by our receiver
• 1:21:07
  room. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:21:08
  You go to HBCU and you get the Quan Felton who's going to be a
• 1:21:12
  monster. We're going to go ahead and call
• 1:21:15
  NFL, you know what I'm saying? You go get Jay Lane, who even
• 1:21:18
  before he got here, we was already calling NFL.
• 1:21:21
  Then what do you do? How do you follow that up?
• 1:21:24
  You go into high school and you recruit Brody Adams stood.
• 1:21:29
  You go recruit Chance Wiggins stood, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:21:33
  Then you got Aiden Green waiting in the wings.
• 1:21:34
  It's like, what are they going to do if they going to compete
• 1:21:37
  to get on the field, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:21:39
  So that is crazy to me. Just to think of where we came
• 1:21:43
  from and the recruiting probably the idiot he fofos he tipping
• 1:21:52
  what grain he's ripping. You know we got.
• 1:21:55
  We got to go ahead and keep it. He's not been, he's not been in
• 1:21:58
  that FOFO for a long time, so. We just got to change it this
• 1:22:02
  offseason. It ain't.
• 1:22:03
  Happening. We just got to go ahead and let
• 1:22:05
  him ride. I'm scared for him to change it.
• 1:22:07
  Shit he got. At this, at this point, at this
• 1:22:09
  point, it's bad luck to change it.
• 1:22:11
  Hey, just keep doing what you're doing, man.
• 1:22:13
  NFL Heat. There you go.
• 1:22:15
  All right, so talking back to about what we talking about make
• 1:22:20
  too competitive roster. One of the big moves is all
• 1:22:23
  season because y'all two talked about a lot on defensive side of
• 1:22:26
  the ball not having a Mike linebacker.
• 1:22:28
  They didn't rest on their laurels.
• 1:22:31
  They went and told those guys in that middle linebacker room
• 1:22:34
  we're bringing somebody in to take your job.
• 1:22:36
  And back in. Back in April, we had a chance
• 1:22:39
  to sit down with David Cunningham from Tech sideline
• 1:22:42
  and Mike McDaniel, the man who is on 6000 Hokie podcast,
• 1:22:45
  including the Hokie Hangover. We talked about the linebacker
• 1:22:48
  depth and Sam Brumfield. Not that Jenkins is back too.
• 1:22:53
  Like this is a, you know, you add Brumfield and Jenkins
• 1:22:57
  together. If Virginia Tech can kind of get
• 1:23:00
  some things straightened out there at will, I think the
• 1:23:03
  Hokies will be in good shape there.
• 1:23:05
  You got Gay Williams coming in. I think the depth is starting to
• 1:23:10
  develop there, assuming they can stay healthy.
• 1:23:13
  Yeah. Go ahead, Valerie.
• 1:23:16
  No, I was just saying. I mean, David kind of hit the
• 1:23:19
  nail on the head when he's talking about the depth piece of
• 1:23:21
  it, you know what I'm saying? Like a lot of years we may have,
• 1:23:25
  man, it's going to be a good year, then it's football.
• 1:23:28
  This guy gets hurt and then you get somebody put in behind him.
• 1:23:32
  That's just a total drop off from who that first the first
• 1:23:38
  line of defense is. And and the honest truth is you
• 1:23:46
  we talk about death and tell you to mention it tonight.
• 1:23:48
  It's the depth we're getting that depth where it's you're not
• 1:23:51
  worried anymore and Brian you were mentioning about Spencer
• 1:23:54
  earlier today. Yeah, I mean, we, you know, we
• 1:23:57
  talked about his skill set and a guy like that that can come in
• 1:24:00
  for you. You know, we had a big question
• 1:24:02
  mark. You know who's going to be your
• 1:24:04
  nickelback, who's going to be kind of that you know third or
• 1:24:08
  fourth safety in the rotation. That kind of answers some of
• 1:24:11
  your questions there. And that's another guy that can
• 1:24:13
  also slide in, play some star, potentially play some will.
• 1:24:17
  He's got that type of build, he's got that type of skill set.
• 1:24:20
  So having that position flexibility helping in in those
• 1:24:23
  depth areas that's going to pay big dividends because you know
• 1:24:28
  especially a safety position where you know you're 1 hit
• 1:24:31
  that's two inches higher than you you you planned it to be
• 1:24:35
  from being out for the rest of the game.
• 1:24:37
  So this isn't even just a injury issue right It's this is this is
• 1:24:43
  a targeting situation too. I mean we had we got burned a
• 1:24:46
  couple times last year and you know that was a a position of
• 1:24:49
  concern last year. I I feel pretty good about it
• 1:24:53
  this year in terms of some of the young guys stepping up and
• 1:24:56
  and some of the the more veteran guys.
• 1:24:58
  But getting another extra piece that's had some collegiate
• 1:25:02
  experience that has been on the field for a Power Five team
• 1:25:06
  that's going to that's going to help us build that depth and
• 1:25:10
  continue to put offenses behind the 8 ball more consistently.
• 1:25:18
  Agreed. We're going from transfers from
• 1:25:21
  Alabama and Miami, and we're going from transfers from
• 1:25:25
  Gardner, Will to Alabama and Miami.
• 1:25:28
  I'll take it. Big step, big steps up, big
• 1:25:32
  steps up. Well, we've been talking a lot
• 1:25:34
  of defense, the first part here, but we got to sit down about 30
• 1:25:39
  minutes and talk with Tyler Bowen.
• 1:25:41
  And first of all, that guy's smart when it comes to the
• 1:25:45
  offense. You can tell just by his
• 1:25:46
  conversation with us. If you haven't seen him talk
• 1:25:49
  elsewhere but talking about tightening it up, let's tighten
• 1:25:53
  it up that we were coaching. How can we coach this better?
• 1:25:57
  How can we make it simpler to install?
• 1:26:00
  So we're looking at all that. And what I see, there's just so
• 1:26:02
  many areas that we just need to tighten up, right?
• 1:26:06
  We're obviously going to evolve from a scheme standpoint.
• 1:26:09
  There were some, you know, there's some good plays as the
• 1:26:11
  season unfolded. But if we can just tighten
• 1:26:13
  everything up, if we can understand a little bit more of
• 1:26:16
  the why behind what we're doing, if we can get our hat 6 inches
• 1:26:20
  over on an outside run, if we can hit those landmarks, there's
• 1:26:23
  a lot more yards and a lot more points to go on the field.
• 1:26:26
  And that's and again, I'll tie that right back into the thing
• 1:26:29
  we started with. That's the beauty of Phase one,
• 1:26:32
  right? It's about those things.
• 1:26:33
  It's it's about the first step. It's about not false stepping.
• 1:26:36
  It's about the drive off the ball.
• 1:26:39
  The release against outside leverage press.
• 1:26:41
  Right release against outside leverage press.
• 1:26:46
  God, Jesus, what a football saying right there, boys.
• 1:26:50
  Man, you can listen to him talk for a while like I want to, I
• 1:26:54
  need, I need to get a chalk talk with just Coach Tebow, a grease
• 1:26:58
  board. Let's draw some things up.
• 1:27:01
  Let's talk about it. Let's talk about the why.
• 1:27:03
  Let's talk about the technique we need to deploy to get that
• 1:27:07
  job done. Let's do that for a couple
• 1:27:09
  hours. That sounds like a good time to
• 1:27:11
  me, man. But enough.
• 1:27:13
  What he what he's also talking about, He's talking about
• 1:27:15
  shoring up those fundamentals, making sure that you're you're
• 1:27:19
  not forgetting about the fundamentals as you continue to
• 1:27:23
  build upon the offensive philosophies that he's
• 1:27:26
  installing. And this goes back to kind of
• 1:27:30
  how the team, the make up of the team, right?
• 1:27:33
  So you can start to Polish those fundamentals and you can start
• 1:27:38
  to install some of those new things because of the continuity
• 1:27:41
  that we're going to see in this offense this year, right?
• 1:27:45
  Because we got a whole lot of guys coming back on the
• 1:27:47
  offensive side of the ball. By my count, everybody but our
• 1:27:53
  second tight end. Yeah.
• 1:27:57
  That's it. That's it.
• 1:28:01
  I'm excited, Robbie said. He coaching wide receivers.
• 1:28:04
  I don't know how that's going to go.
• 1:28:08
  Robbie, you got to get a video of that.
• 1:28:10
  Please, please. But I think, I think overall
• 1:28:13
  when when you hear that it's it's it's not he talked about
• 1:28:17
  that. Remember that episode was down
• 1:28:18
  to the stubs. We got to take it down, which is
• 1:28:20
  right. But if he got to that point is
• 1:28:22
  like tightening it up because what he's telling you there,
• 1:28:25
  because to Brian's point, a lot of guys are returning.
• 1:28:28
  We don't need a makeover. That was last year.
• 1:28:31
  We just got to tighten up those little things and do just the
• 1:28:34
  little things be better just a little bit more.
• 1:28:38
  Because if we better just a little bit more, it goes a lot
• 1:28:41
  longer. And to that point, when we spoke
• 1:28:44
  with Kyron, drones back in the winter.
• 1:28:48
  Talks about those guys coming back, talks about what a
• 1:28:53
  situation we have on our hands this year.
• 1:28:57
  Love hearing you kind of stepping up with a leadership
• 1:29:00
  role from that perspective and getting guys on board and
• 1:29:04
  saying, all right, we got some unfinished business and the
• 1:29:06
  better, the better we come back and do it next year, the more
• 1:29:09
  that that kind of raises everybody's ship for for the
• 1:29:11
  future, right. Yeah, it's basically a win, win
• 1:29:13
  situation for everybody. Virginia Tech win games, you get
• 1:29:17
  seen, you get to the goal, you want to be in the league and
• 1:29:20
  that's where everybody want to go in college football.
• 1:29:22
  So it's a win win situation. I love it when a playing comes
• 1:29:31
  together. A win, win.
• 1:29:34
  A win. Win.
• 1:29:35
  It's a win. Win Virginia Tech, win games.
• 1:29:37
  You get to get seen and I get to meet Kevin and the boys in that.
• 1:29:43
  Everybody wins. Everybody wins.
• 1:29:46
  Everybody wins in that situation and again, it's and with all
• 1:29:51
  those guys coming back, just tighten it up a little.
• 1:29:54
  Just tighten it up a little. Tighten it up a little.
• 1:29:57
  It ain't going to be a lot of teams that can do anything with
• 1:29:59
  this Hokies roster this year. Oh.
• 1:30:02
  Yeah, it's going to be. Tough man.
• 1:30:05
  We, we, if we. Show up and we play
• 1:30:07
  consistently. If we consistently play to
• 1:30:10
  anywhere near our capability every week, it's going to be
• 1:30:15
  trouble because there there's there's dudes all over the place
• 1:30:18
  at the skill positions. I'm already talking shit, man.
• 1:30:22
  I ain't saying no ifs. I'm saying when we get out here
• 1:30:24
  and do what we going to do up that if shit I don't went
• 1:30:28
  through too many years even when we was even I don't want to call
• 1:30:31
  us even when we were sorry I was still talking shit.
• 1:30:35
  So you know what I think we when I know we going to be.
• 1:30:39
  We got some juice. We got some juice man.
• 1:30:43
  Hey we got QB one. We got QB one in the building.
• 1:30:47
  We good to go. Hey, it's going to be a fun ride
• 1:30:50
  this year. I'm telling y'all, if you
• 1:30:52
  following me and you don't like cussing and you and you don't
• 1:30:57
  and you don't want to hear no shit talking, Hey, I just took a
• 1:31:00
  little hiatus from from X Twitter, whatever it's called,
• 1:31:05
  because I'd have had some stuff going on in my in in my normal
• 1:31:08
  life. Good stuff.
• 1:31:11
  But when football come around, y'all y'all have to put me on
• 1:31:14
  mute. I'm telling you right now.
• 1:31:18
  I'm retweeting everything you put out.
• 1:31:20
  Not y'all to, not y'all to. I'm talking about the people
• 1:31:22
  that's watching the UVA fans. My boys, Ike shout out to Ike,
• 1:31:28
  shout out to DJOG. Y'all going to have to put me on
• 1:31:32
  mute, man. I'm telling you right now, y'all
• 1:31:34
  going to hate me. It's old.
• 1:31:37
  It's old Twitter coming back, baby.
• 1:31:39
  Oh. Buddy, oh, buddy.
• 1:31:41
  Because you know. Because you know why?
• 1:31:44
  Because winning matters. Tell your.
• 1:31:47
  Husband winning matters. Yes, Sir.
• 1:31:50
  And then motherfucker like me, you ain't how much does I want
• 1:31:53
  to win? But you just got to be give me a
• 1:31:55
  sliver for me to start talking crazy.
• 1:31:58
  I I think winning games is very important.
• 1:32:00
  Obviously that's that's the ultimate, you know, on the
• 1:32:03
  field, that's the ultimate goal, right?
• 1:32:07
  But at the same time, I think the belief in the way we're
• 1:32:12
  doing things, I think the belief in how people are treated, I
• 1:32:16
  think the belief in the experience is all important too.
• 1:32:21
  I'm not going to sit here and say guys are going to be happy
• 1:32:23
  winning three games because they're not.
• 1:32:24
  Nobody is. But as long as everybody feels
• 1:32:27
  like we're going in the right direction, we're doing the right
• 1:32:30
  things. There's improvements.
• 1:32:31
  You know, that's that's what I hope for.
• 1:32:33
  And I think that's what's really important right now with where
• 1:32:36
  we're at as a program. Tally, say what you were saying,
• 1:32:40
  man, we pressed the button too soon.
• 1:32:43
  You did it right. You.
• 1:32:45
  You had to slow me down. I'm going to say this Curtis,
• 1:32:48
  37. Question Mark.
• 1:32:54
  Now I want you to fill in the question mark.
• 1:32:55
  Oh, it's too early, man. I got to save that content.
• 1:32:57
  Brian 37. Billy Bob said it the best 1010
• 1:33:05
  a fucking 10. It going 10.
• 1:33:09
  I was say 10, I was going to say 10 too.
• 1:33:12
  Hold on. See, I'm holding it because I
• 1:33:14
  was bullish at 8:00 last year. I was the only one that put that
• 1:33:18
  number out there. Yeah, you was.
• 1:33:21
  I was the only one, and I still attest.
• 1:33:23
  If Kyron Drone starts game one, we hit eight.
• 1:33:26
  If not, nine wins. Yeah, you was.
• 1:33:29
  You said it. I'd said 8.
• 1:33:31
  Yeah, people thought I was nuts. I was.
• 1:33:33
  I was on six. You said you said it 8. 8 And I
• 1:33:38
  still feel confident. You, you, you, you Just wait
• 1:33:41
  till August, Tally, and I'm going to get quite a few of
• 1:33:45
  these in me. And ain't no telling what's
• 1:33:47
  going to come out of my lips. Hey man, you know when we talk
• 1:33:49
  about winning, you got to, you got to start with the
• 1:33:51
  fundamentals and you got to start with what the guys need to
• 1:33:55
  improve and what they need to work on.
• 1:33:57
  And the big thing that we're always preaching this
• 1:33:59
  competition right, Coach Price preaching it.
• 1:34:02
  And we had coach Tyler Bowen on. We already talked to him a
• 1:34:07
  little bit about the XS and OS, but here he's talking a little
• 1:34:10
  bit about kind of how that competition plays into what they
• 1:34:14
  do from the valuation standpoint.
• 1:34:16
  What is that emphasis that Coach Bry has on competition?
• 1:34:19
  What what can you kind of see from that, from these winter
• 1:34:22
  workouts and those hunger drills?
• 1:34:24
  Yeah, that's awesome, right. That's a fundamental for our
• 1:34:26
  program, you know, it's pretty neat, right?
• 1:34:29
  Every, every drill is competitive.
• 1:34:31
  So it when we're running that agility circuit or whatever
• 1:34:34
  we're doing, there's a match up, right.
• 1:34:36
  So they all have an individual match up and then there's
• 1:34:39
  individual group and and team competitions at the end.
• 1:34:42
  So you know put them in a mindset to compete.
• 1:34:45
  You know that's that's a big piece of it.
• 1:34:46
  You can it's not just when you hit the grass you got to have a
• 1:34:49
  mindset to win at all times and I think we're able to build that
• 1:34:52
  in our hunger drills and and phase one it's the mindset,
• 1:34:58
  right. We've been we've been talking
• 1:35:00
  about it all night. It's the mindset of competing
• 1:35:02
  and it's that whole thing. I think I feel like, I don't
• 1:35:06
  think he said it to us, but Prize said it before.
• 1:35:09
  You do not want the taste of loss, whether it be a tire pull
• 1:35:14
  and drill, a foot race, the spring game, playing cards
• 1:35:20
  together, playing a board game or getting on the field.
• 1:35:24
  And to me that's what to me it clicked.
• 1:35:27
  I think that telly you mentioned the Marshall game.
• 1:35:30
  I think what we saw happen after the Marshall game, I think it
• 1:35:34
  clicked. I think finally that taste just
• 1:35:36
  hit wrong because that day we should have won, should have won
• 1:35:41
  by a lot. And I'm sure it was probably
• 1:35:44
  what's that taste like. You outplayed them, you ran over
• 1:35:47
  top of them. They made a couple couple good
• 1:35:50
  ones. They made a couple good plays
• 1:35:53
  and they beat you. They took advantage of your
• 1:35:55
  mistakes, even though you played play to play ran over them
• 1:35:59
  pretty good. But they took advantage of the
• 1:36:02
  mistakes and they got in the end zone when it mattered you.
• 1:36:07
  You got to be competitive. Every Rep, every Rep matters.
• 1:36:12
  And that's what this is talking about with the hunger drills.
• 1:36:14
  Every Rep matters. That's what's talking about the
• 1:36:17
  competition. During winter workouts and at
• 1:36:19
  practice, every Rep matters. You got to be if you want to win
• 1:36:23
  a game, there's a whole lot of plays that it takes to add up to
• 1:36:26
  that. You can't be taking reps off.
• 1:36:29
  You can't be taking plays off or that might be the time when the
• 1:36:34
  team gets that upper hand on you.
• 1:36:36
  And it doesn't matter whether it's Marshall or whether it's
• 1:36:38
  Clemson or whether it's Miami, Whoever it is, on any given day,
• 1:36:42
  if you're not winning every Rep and you're you're letting plays
• 1:36:46
  go that you didn't give your best effort, bad it it can, it
• 1:36:50
  can go the wrong way. You got to get tired of losing.
• 1:36:54
  But you also this season, you got to handle what it feels like
• 1:36:59
  to have expectations on you too. You can't just because people
• 1:37:04
  are telling you that you're good, you just show up and think
• 1:37:08
  that that's going to be good enough.
• 1:37:11
  You still got to compete every Rep.
• 1:37:13
  Yup, got to go win it. You got to go beat these teams
• 1:37:16
  that you can't look at. Nothing like this is a big game.
• 1:37:23
  We the big game. You just got to go play you we
• 1:37:27
  the big game. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:37:30
  Dude, I'm gonna tell you this. I've talked to David Cutcliffe
• 1:37:33
  this this week, which was crazy. Like I work for a pest control
• 1:37:37
  company. I I do inside sales for a pest
• 1:37:40
  control company and I get a lead that I need to call one of our
• 1:37:44
  customers and that customer was David Cutcliffe.
• 1:37:48
  And I'm like David Cutcliffe. It ain't nobody in the world
• 1:37:52
  with the name. Hey man, it was a guy that
• 1:37:55
  coached Duke with the same name as you.
• 1:37:57
  He's like, yeah, that's me. So I sit there.
• 1:38:00
  And talk for like 30 minutes about Blacksburg and Frank being
• 1:38:05
  with because him and Frank's really good friends, his words
• 1:38:09
  and he talked about the atmosphere at Virginia Tech.
• 1:38:13
  He was like, I don't know how many games you get to go to.
• 1:38:15
  He was like, but it's nothing like going to Blacksburg.
• 1:38:18
  He was like I was so amped to play Frank every time we played
• 1:38:21
  because I wanted to win in that atmosphere we the big game like
• 1:38:26
  you going to get everybody's best so you got to go win.
• 1:38:29
  You can't worry about the expectations.
• 1:38:31
  You can't worry like we got to go win and this is a this is a
• 1:38:35
  good year to to to put it to the test man I'm again I'm I'm over
• 1:38:40
  the moon. I'm like I'm ready to start
• 1:38:41
  talking crazy if we win. Let me see.
• 1:38:44
  I don't even want to put a number on it yet I'm going to
• 1:38:47
  put a number if we get in the double if we.
• 1:38:49
  I have no tattoos, no piercings. If we if we win double digit
• 1:38:55
  games this year, I'm getting a tattoo.
• 1:38:58
  I don't know what it's going to be yet, but I'm going.
• 1:39:01
  To get a Sally, we get, we get batching tattoos.
• 1:39:03
  Oh gosh. Hey, we might let y'all pick.
• 1:39:07
  We might let, we might run a pole.
• 1:39:09
  I don't know what we're going to do, but I'm telling you right
• 1:39:11
  now, put what Thomas Thomas said, 15 and O bring it.
• 1:39:18
  Oh man, and we if we 15 and oh, everybody getting tattoos.
• 1:39:24
  Everybody getting tattooed, I get a tattoo if we 15 and oh,
• 1:39:30
  because I ain't got one on my body either.
• 1:39:32
  I got no, I'm, I'm, I'm super scared of needles.
• 1:39:36
  I hate needles. I I got.
• 1:39:37
  I got the one I I got. I got one in the in the oven,
• 1:39:41
  though I got 1 coming. Got one coming.
• 1:39:43
  All right. Well, well, Kylie's saying you
• 1:39:45
  will have two coming. By apparently I got 2 coming.
• 1:39:47
  Let's do it. You got 2 coming, we get double
• 1:39:49
  digit. Hey, I'm going up in there all.
• 1:39:52
  Right boys. So the the last clip we got here
• 1:39:55
  was with Kyron and and it was us talking a little bit.
• 1:40:00
  There you go. That's what y'all need to get
• 1:40:03
  right there. What?
• 1:40:06
  I missed it? What was it?
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  It's always getting me in, trying to get us in trouble,
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  man. Get.
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  Your hokey tracks tramp stamps on your backs.
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  You know I have mercy. That might be a cool not on the.
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  Tram stamp that's that's not a that's that's that's that's a
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  that's a wild 1st tattoo for somebody.
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  Very wild 1st tattoo. I'm on, I'm on.
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  I want to play this clip from Cairo and when we talked to him
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  because it it just play it Brian and we can come back and talk
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  about it because this, this, this hit.
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  Yeah. We we appreciate you giving us
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  the the feeling that we get like we're back when you know these
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  guys in here were you know 17/18/1920.
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  The the feeling of those teams that we had back then like
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  watching you out there it it it's that very same feeling.
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  So we appreciate that about you you.
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  You know I. Keep it going.
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  You took us back, man. You you really did what Y'all
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  did. The back half of the season took
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  these guys back. I'm 40, bronze 39, Tally's 38.
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  So you do the math. Victoria.
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  Tyrod. Ron.
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  Randall, I mean you I'm sure you see those names all the time in
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  in in the same of that it you took us back last year.
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  And I mean, you know we went to games like when we were younger.
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  I mean we were wild. We were crazy.
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  We did stupid stuff. I mean let's let's you know
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  there's things we've done. But but when you have that
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  feeling and the brain comes back, it's like this is the way
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  it was. This is the way it was.
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  This is the way it should be. I listened to that kid four
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  times today because Tally, the way you're feeling is the way it
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  should be and it's the way it was every football season.
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  It's the way it was every off season for pretty much our
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  entire lives until these last about eight years.
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  Because you remember. I mean think about it.
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  I mean, and again I and I say it and I reiterate it, what they
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  did in the back half of the season last year.
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  That's the way it felt like when what what the Syracuse game,
• 1:42:07
  watching that game and just knocking the shit out of the
• 1:42:09
  quarterback and just at will scoring.
• 1:42:12
  We're going to score again. We're going to score again the
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  UVA game. Just we aren't going to quit
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  scoring on you. 50 burger baby. Yeah.
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  Then we're going to run, run, run back on on special teams and
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  celebrate on the hill. So I I I got to hit on this
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  right quick. Just because Robbie put it on
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  there. So you know what's crazy,
• 1:42:34
  though? 44 really was my that was my
• 1:42:37
  favorite number growing up. So even if you look at my if you
• 1:42:41
  look at my, my Twitter hunters, Taliban. 44.
• 1:42:44
  So my number was 44, but when I got to high school football and
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  I was in 9th grade, the tight end that was ahead of me was 44.
• 1:42:53
  So they was like, oh, you got to take 47.
• 1:42:54
  So the road that I lived on, I lived off of Hwy. 47.
• 1:42:58
  So I just started rocking 47, but now I like the number 44.
• 1:43:04
  I just didn't like it on my cornerback.
• 1:43:07
  But when he hits All American status, I got to just shut up
• 1:43:10
  and let him do what he doing, you know what I'm saying?
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  But when he has the kind of year he had last, he's like, OK,
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  well, if you want to wear 44, wear whatever you want, man.
• 1:43:19
  Wear whatever number you want. Yeah.
• 1:43:24
  And I and I like I said I I love hearing that from Kyron like and
• 1:43:27
  and I love thinking about kind of where where we've come in the
• 1:43:31
  last couple years and especially in the back half of last year.
• 1:43:38
  You know it's not the constant feel of when's the other shoe
• 1:43:43
  going to drop right. I feel like every offseason for
• 1:43:46
  a good while. All right.
• 1:43:49
  Even if it got even if it was a good offseason, you you always
• 1:43:52
  had that dread like when's the shoe going to drop and it and it
• 1:43:55
  and it dropped just about every offseason, right.
• 1:43:57
  Like whether whether we got all the way to the the preseason
• 1:44:00
  then we get an SI article or you know, yeah we we we we worried
• 1:44:04
  about Turkey bacon and all sorts of stuff and I mean you know we
• 1:44:08
  can talk about the other stuff too that was a little you know
• 1:44:11
  more concerning than that. I mean it it's it's nice to have
• 1:44:17
  to to feel like your team is ran competently.
• 1:44:24
  And it's also, you know, like you said, the team has ran
• 1:44:27
  competently. And also it's great to have star
• 1:44:31
  power. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:44:32
  When I look back over us interviewing some of these kids,
• 1:44:36
  man, how you know, they come on and they're very professional,
• 1:44:40
  you know? But then when you look at, like
• 1:44:42
  Kyron when we're interviewing him, he's got all the makings to
• 1:44:45
  be a star, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:44:47
  Like, he knows how to speak to the public.
• 1:44:49
  He knows how to act. When he's in public, he looks
• 1:44:52
  the part. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:44:53
  He's just a phenomenal talent. It takes me back to those days
• 1:44:59
  when we was watching David Wilson, you know what I'm
• 1:45:03
  saying? It takes me back to the the days
• 1:45:05
  when we were watching David Wilson on ESPN and they'll
• 1:45:08
  follow him around driving this old school car and stuff like
• 1:45:11
  that. Like we ain't, we ain't been
• 1:45:13
  able to see stuff like that around Virginia Tech in a long
• 1:45:17
  time. For real, you know what I'm
• 1:45:18
  saying? Like, even when Gerard was there
• 1:45:20
  and he was doing his thing, like we didn't get to see a whole
• 1:45:23
  bunch of Gerard. We didn't get to see a lot of
• 1:45:25
  interviews with Gerard and stuff like that.
• 1:45:27
  Changing. That's because the door was
• 1:45:29
  closed on the program. Right, right.
• 1:45:31
  So. The the doors closed on a
• 1:45:34
  program where it was some of the most loyal fans in the country.
• 1:45:38
  And that door, December 2021, it was kicked back open.
• 1:45:45
  And and to the fans credit, we never stopped Nope banging at
• 1:45:48
  that door. No, it didn't.
• 1:45:50
  No, it didn't. And.
• 1:45:52
  Again, it's the feeling. It's the feeling.
• 1:45:56
  It's the feeling that's what you want.
• 1:45:58
  I do not know what else we have tonight, Brian, because I feel
• 1:46:02
  like I'm off. Is there anything else I missed?
• 1:46:05
  I think we got everything, man. That's, that's that's everything
• 1:46:09
  we got planned. Unless you see something pop up
• 1:46:11
  somewhere that we want to talk about, I don't mind.
• 1:46:13
  I don't mind taking another 5 or 10 minutes and and hashing out
• 1:46:17
  anything that's come up. Has some come up?
• 1:46:19
  Did you say that because you saw some?
• 1:46:20
  Or Oh no, I didn't see. I was asking you if you saw.
• 1:46:22
  Something I try but. I mean, we got, we got to put
• 1:46:26
  this in there because every time, you know, we talk about
• 1:46:28
  David Wilson, oh. Yeah.
• 1:46:30
  You gave that poor man PSPTSD tally talking about David
• 1:46:34
  Wilson. All he's got to see is David
• 1:46:38
  Wilson running by the sideline in high school.
• 1:46:41
  Not Nah. Played him 3 * 3 times, Robbie
• 1:46:44
  four times. He's like every time he went 200
• 1:46:47
  just. There he goes.
• 1:46:48
  He might catch him. All right.
• 1:46:50
  See you later. All right.
• 1:46:52
  Yeah, I do not see anything else, bro.
• 1:46:53
  The only thing I saw was I looked at the score to the the
• 1:46:56
  Celtics were down three with eight seconds left and they won
• 1:46:58
  by 6 in overtime. I don't know what happened
• 1:47:01
  there. I don't either.
• 1:47:03
  I hate the Celtics. I didn't want them to win, but
• 1:47:05
  it happened. Virginia Tech baseball lost.
• 1:47:07
  I seen that. Played a great Duke team,
• 1:47:10
  though. Duke's a baseball team, so.
• 1:47:12
  What was the final on that you were watching?
• 1:47:14
  That I think it was 11 to 811 to 811 to 7 one of those.
• 1:47:19
  Yeah, it's at some point you got to not allow eleven runs.
• 1:47:22
  Yeah, you can. You ain't winning any baseball
• 1:47:24
  games. Eleven runs.
• 1:47:28
  Not even Little League. Analysis.
• 1:47:32
  Don't allow eleven runs. Don't allow.
• 1:47:35
  In any form of baseball. Right.
• 1:47:37
  All right, well, boys, what a fun episode.
• 1:47:40
  Again, the road ahead is long and the future is bright.
• 1:47:45
  Here we talked about depth. We talked about depth about the
• 1:47:48
  team 16 months ago. BCP got deeper tally right here
• 1:47:54
  with us tonight. Sheldon.
• 1:47:56
  Sheldon probably in a cave doing some work.
• 1:47:59
  Ain't no telling what he's going to come back with, but he is
• 1:48:01
  going to be joining us definitely a few times over the
• 1:48:03
  summer. And you know, it's awesome, man,
• 1:48:08
  because again we said at the beginning, I'll say at the end,
• 1:48:11
  tally, y'all joining it did nothing to make his program
• 1:48:16
  better. Level up, baby.
• 1:48:18
  Level up. Yes, Sir.
• 1:48:19
  Yes, Sir. Man, it's been a fun ride.
• 1:48:21
  Been a fun ride. Only getting better, man, only
• 1:48:24
  getting better. Only getting better.
• 1:48:26
  All right, that wraps up this episode of the Boundary Corner
• 1:48:28
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• 1:48:33
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