Latest / CattleUSA Daily / 279: USDA’s New “Lawfare” Crackdown: Is DC Finally Picking a Side? with John Campbell
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- 0:00In today's episode with John Campbell, he comes on to give us
- 0:03a rundown on everything that we are seeing in the live cattle
- 0:06market this week. He gives us the breakdown of
- 0:08Lahana and then also all of the other cell barns in the winter
- 0:13livestock family and in the region to really give us an idea
- 0:16of what we are seeing on the live cattle side over the past
- 0:20week. After that, John goes into a hot
- 0:23topic discussion about everything that we are seeing on
- 0:26a national oversight level and some new programs that have
- 0:30recently been put in place by Rollins and under the USDA,
- 0:34everything like that. John breaks it all down for us,
- 0:37what it means, what it means for producers, and what we can do
- 0:41going forward. Without further ado, let's go
- 0:44ahead and hop into this episode with John.
- 0:46But before we do, if you're watching on any of our podcast
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- 0:55the team. Now let's hear from John.
- 1:01Welcome to the Cattle USA Daily podcast, your go to source for
- 1:05the latest livestock markets, industry insights and the update
- 1:08shaping agriculture today. I'm your host, Lauren Moylan, a
- 1:12passionate advocate for agriculture here to keep you
- 1:14informed and connected. Now let's dive into today's
- 1:18episode. John, welcome back to the
- 1:26podcast. How has life in La Hana been?
- 1:30You know, it's just terrific, beautiful weather.
- 1:32We could use a little moisture, which, you know, that's typical
- 1:35for La Hana. But looks like you guys back
- 1:38eastern Kansas going to maybe get a little shot in through
- 1:41here. So that's great news.
- 1:42Hope it heads West. But no, talking to several
- 1:46people and cabbing is going great.
- 1:49I mean, next fall you're not going to have to worry about
- 1:51cutting all the frozen aired cabs off.
- 1:54If that isn't the truth, I know we're getting some moisture here
- 1:57in Kansas, like into the eastern part of Kansas this weekend.
- 2:01Boy, oh boy, are we grateful for it.
- 2:02It's a little bit of a mud pit out there right now because of
- 2:05some of the rain. But I have learned not to
- 2:07complain and not to bitch and moan about any sort of moisture
- 2:11and to just be grateful for it. So for sure, for sure.
- 2:15Wow. What are we seeing in the
- 2:16markets this week, John? You know, really we kind of had
- 2:20a lot of turmoil towards the end of last week.
- 2:24Thursday, Friday, big downer days in the commodities.
- 2:27They took a big hunk out of the Fed cattle.
- 2:30Then Monday, Tuesday, why they tried to run it down again.
- 2:35And each day it was pretty resilient and commodities ended
- 2:39up closing better Monday and Tuesday and then yesterday, why
- 2:43my gosh, you know, up 700 and some points in the feeders and
- 2:484-5 dollars in in the live cattle, our market here in La
- 2:52Jolla lighter receipts 13188 cattle.
- 2:55But really it, I thought the cattle sold really well.
- 2:59We were kind of featuring replacement heffers.
- 3:02And boy, if there's any doubt about guys wanting to retain
- 3:06heffers or buy heffers to breed, that is a going machine and they
- 3:11are hot. After these replacement quality
- 3:14efforts are are cabs and stockers I thought pretty much
- 3:17steady. I hear some 4 weight steers
- 3:21course weaned and black and brought the four or excuse me,
- 3:25617 1/2. Their Big Brothers weighed 5 at
- 3:285:30 which would be every bit as good as it's been in the last
- 3:32couple weeks. Nothing cheaper about it. 410 LB
- 3:36effers at 492 and had some 530 weight red Angus effers at 431.
- 3:43The stalker heifers for grazing. I I thought they were really
- 3:48steady. And then just to reiterate,
- 3:51excellent demand for these replacement quality effers.
- 3:54Here's some red Angus effers weighed 540.
- 3:57Those would probably be grazers. They brought 458.
- 4:01But you get into these strings of home raised bangs, vaccinated
- 4:07black baldy and red Angus effers, 610 LB effers at 4:30,
- 4:14715 LB heifers at 4:17. That's close to 3000 bucks a
- 4:21head, 25 at four O 4. Anything that stuck her head in
- 4:28the gate that looked like she had a chance of going back as a
- 4:33replacement. We had a lot of depth and a lot
- 4:36of demand on those. You get into the stairs, I
- 4:40thought steady on on what we had, like I said, mostly
- 4:43replacement efforts this week. But some 580 LB steers AT476610
- 4:51pounders at 457, those are steady, stout compared to
- 4:56anything we've done in the last 2-3 weeks.
- 4:59And some Red Angus steers weighing right close to seven at
- 5:02421. So we do have put a plug in real
- 5:09quick. We we've got our 86th
- 5:13anniversary sale here in La Honda.
- 5:16It'll be next Tuesday. I'm sure we'll have between 6
- 5:20and 7000 cattle. So if you need cattle to graze,
- 5:25you need cattle to summer. This is kind of a premier event.
- 5:29We have a big free beef feed and it's a deal that we do annually
- 5:33every year and some of the best producers crossed Colorado plan
- 5:38on hitting that sale so it won't all be big fleshy, warmed up.
- 5:44The grow yard cattle. We don't get a lot of wheat
- 5:46cattle here in La Hana. The bulk of the run will be
- 5:50cattle weighing under £700 that'll be suitable for for
- 5:54grazing. So get to La Hana next Tuesday
- 5:58or get on Cattle USA if still needing some turn out cattle.
- 6:02Absolutely. It's all great to hear.
- 6:05It's great to hear some positive news and that Lahana had a great
- 6:08week. What are we seeing regionally?
- 6:09Is this a theme that we're kind of seeing across the region
- 6:11still, John? Yeah, pretty much the same
- 6:14yesterday. The most current thing I have is
- 6:17Dodge City with 51154 cattle. A lot of those were cows, but
- 6:24you know, some 460 LB stairs at 584.
- 6:29There's sure not anything cheaper about that. 6 weight
- 6:33steers up to 473. Seven weights to four O 6.
- 6:38The big cattle, not any lower I don't really think, but they
- 6:42called it steady. The government guy called it
- 6:44steady to maybe a little cheaper, but here's some 8
- 6:47weight steers off wheat at 378 and some 9 weight cattle at 355.
- 6:54Dodge City heifers 486 LB heifers at 48520AT4786 weight
- 7:04efforts AT4147 weight efforts which they would be feeding
- 7:08efforts compared to our replacements.
- 7:10But for the feeder market there I still thought pretty
- 7:13respectable 372 on some 7 weight efforts.
- 7:18Salina with 36169 courses is old news.
- 7:23But last Thursday they called their feeders steady and spots a
- 7:28little weaker. But last Thursday we were going
- 7:31through the sweat of the futures and them kind of stepping on the
- 7:34Fed cattle, but they sold some 450 weight steers AT6O55, weight
- 7:41steers at 576, weights at 491. So all of those cattle would be
- 7:48going back out either to graze out wheat or probably destined
- 7:53for summer grass. But seven weight stairs at 4:13,
- 7:57I'm sure that that holds true for those.
- 8:00But 8 weight stairs there at 371 and you know the light grazing
- 8:08type cattle everywhere seem to be steady 435 LB effers.
- 8:13Salina, KS 535. They had five weight effers
- 8:17again north of $5, seven weight effers at 363 and some big 860
- 8:23weight effers at 3:32. Jeff Brown up in Riverton, WY, a
- 8:30little over 1000 cattle but selling some.
- 8:33I think there was 100 and some head of black steers weighed 5
- 8:361/2. Bring 482, five weight effers at
- 8:41489. They're still selling some 6
- 8:44weight effers north of $4.00 and had some 720 weight effers at
- 8:48378. Marana, AZ continues to make the
- 8:53news. 17178 cattle for our friends down there in Marant,
- 9:01Arizona had some 515 LB crossbred steers and I'm sure
- 9:07crossbred meaning mixed English steers at 531.
- 9:12Do you know there's nothing wrong with that?
- 9:14And some five and a quarter weight and Red Angus heifers at
- 9:17477 and six way deffers up to 418.
- 9:23And those are northern prices right down there at Marana, AZ.
- 9:28So hats off to those guys. They're they're getting it done.
- 9:32Absolutely making the news on the podcast 2 weeks in a row,
- 9:36they got to be doing something right down there, that's for
- 9:38darn sure. So we'll, we'll take it, we'll
- 9:40take it. John, what do we, what do we
- 9:43have going on just in the world right now?
- 9:45I know you've got some other things that you want to chat
- 9:47with us about today. So kind of give us the give us
- 9:50the rundown on your thoughts and what's going on right now.
- 9:53Well, quite a bit of optimism, you know, and, and it's been out
- 9:57for a couple weeks, but I have a good friend and I've mentioned
- 10:01them before with Lonesome Lands, but Shad Sullivan, he, he was
- 10:05actually invited and part of a round table committee.
- 10:09And you know, USDA Senator Rollins is establishing a farmer
- 10:15and rancher freedom framework to end what they're called an
- 10:20agricultural law force. And, and really what it is, it's
- 10:24aimed to dismantle situations. Exactly like we described last
- 10:30week in our discussion about these regulatory agencies and
- 10:35oversight on their part and trying to enforce things like
- 10:38the, you know, Green New Deal and taking away private property
- 10:42rights. Well, that has gotten the
- 10:44attention of Senator Rollins and, and just this overstep of
- 10:48their, their boundaries and what they're classifying as law fair
- 10:54against private property rights people and just injustice to try
- 10:59to, you know, enforce these Green New Deal programs, EPA
- 11:04programs. And, and really, you know, she
- 11:09states that farming and ranching and private property rights are
- 11:13part of our national security. And they have actually
- 11:17reclassified private property rights, farming and ranching as
- 11:22now, you know, needing some protection because of national
- 11:26security. And they're outlining what they
- 11:29call a four pillar framework and #1 is the protect producers #2
- 11:37preserve land and liberty three purge burdensome regulations.
- 11:44And #4 they want to partner with agriculture to fight what
- 11:49they're calling this law fair. And I, I, I just was really
- 11:54encouraged by the narrative of the entire thing.
- 11:57The USDA will have now has an agenda to deregulate
- 12:02environmental status against US agriculture, shifting from what
- 12:08in the past was a compliance driven agency to a
- 12:13constitutional rights department and just a complete change in
- 12:18attitude versus the the Obama and and and Biden
- 12:23administration. And they're going to establish
- 12:26what Rollins is calling a senior advisor that will be 100%
- 12:33dedicated to fighting this AG law fair.
- 12:36And so if you're a victim or feel like you're a victim, you
- 12:41can report. And they have established a
- 12:43website anditsusda.gov/law fair. And so rather than all these
- 12:52compliance regulatory appointments going, they're
- 12:56going in a reverse direction and actually going to have an
- 13:00advisory member or senior member.
- 13:05And that's going to be their role.
- 13:06Their job is to listen to all of this lawfare that's going on out
- 13:11there. And and that doesn't mean I can
- 13:16call him up about my one tire, however that qualifies.
- 13:20But I'm sure they'll be inundated with them.
- 13:23But they will base your your case and look at it and give you
- 13:27information as to how to form some kind of a rebuttal.
- 13:31And if it gets to the point, you will also be directed right to
- 13:36the Department of Justice through this senior
- 13:39advisorsousda.gov/lawfare. And you know, they, they've
- 13:46already established a timeline near term.
- 13:49They're going to conduct Regulatory agency enforcement
- 13:53reviews. They're going to go back and
- 13:55look at how these agencies have overstepped their boundaries and
- 14:00how it has affected commerce, how it has affected agriculture
- 14:05and private property inspection practices over the next 60 to 90
- 14:10days. She meant they're going to be
- 14:12more aggressive about antitrust enforcement and direct action
- 14:18against concentrated protein markets.
- 14:20We're already seeing that. I have first hand knowledge of
- 14:24that market access reform for independent producers of their
- 14:29long term plan is to deconstruct big agricultural consolidation
- 14:36change and establish agriculture again as a national security
- 14:42priority and claiming that food is part of our strategic
- 14:46infrastructure as this private property owned by U.S. citizens.
- 14:50So again, addressing foreign ownership of a lot of our
- 14:54agricultural land reads now, whether they act on it or not,
- 14:59but I kind of think they will really positive and and I think
- 15:02finally we have a president that that no doubt is committed to
- 15:06these ideals and and more importantly, a secretary of
- 15:10agriculture has voiced and created this agenda.
- 15:14I just think it's outstanding. One of the best things ever to
- 15:17come out of DC. Plus the promise of that they
- 15:21can't come in and override state laws, state rights.
- 15:27And I think I'm I'm still all for local control, state control
- 15:31like I think everybody is. But when you lived in a whacked
- 15:35out state like Colorado or California, why she's promised
- 15:40some federal oversight. Say it OK, you can do this, but
- 15:44don't think Big Brother doesn't have their hand on you.
- 15:47And you're going to have to stay in line on a lot of this BS it's
- 15:50going on. So first time in that I can
- 15:54remember we've had anybody that even wants to put any kind of
- 15:58federal oversight on a lot of these crazy, crazy legislative
- 16:03deals that have come down through these real liberal
- 16:06states. But you know that there's a lot
- 16:08of language there and we kind of wonder what what it means.
- 16:11But if you are a victim of government overreach, whether it
- 16:16be eminent domain, unnecessary seizure of farmland, land
- 16:23boundary disputes, you know that they're really setting up and
- 16:28structuring a deal that'll be a champion for what I think is
- 16:31private property rights. And they even mention and
- 16:35recognize the dismantle of the the big Packers and get more
- 16:40local control, more competition back in markets.
- 16:43And Rollins has identified this really as the top priority of
- 16:48the USDA and has set some plans and actions.
- 16:52They have already done some things.
- 16:54So they outlined about four different projects that they
- 16:58already taken a hand in and got those cases dropped.
- 17:02So I would encourage everybody and and like we talked last
- 17:07week, everybody has an incident of some kind.
- 17:11And and I don't think don't think that it that it's trivial.
- 17:15You know, if you got the EPA marching down your back about
- 17:19Lauren, what you said about the analyzing some dams or myself
- 17:25with a with A1 tire on fire, don't think that, you know, I, I
- 17:29think the frequency that this advisor is contacted also adds
- 17:35legitimacy to the position that that they've created.
- 17:39So I'm I'm excited. We, we've got somebody and, and,
- 17:44and, and got a government that is finally looking at all of
- 17:49this overreach in this, these outlandish policies that have
- 17:53come into effect that not only for individuals, but businesses
- 17:58that Congress is completely upside down because of some
- 18:02regulatory act or agency. I just think it's great.
- 18:07Yeah, no, I could not agree more with everything that you said
- 18:11there, John. This is great.
- 18:12It is a massive win for producers who just need that,
- 18:16who live in states who are not there to support them, who have
- 18:20just been hit left and right with these different
- 18:23regulations, these different oversight things.
- 18:25And I think that it is a massive win for agriculture.
- 18:28And I also encourage people in the same way that you just did,
- 18:31that nothing is too trivial. And that we really, really need
- 18:34to help with the legitimacy and the need of this agency and of
- 18:39what they're doing to kind of bring this back to agriculture
- 18:42and bring some back, bring some oversight back to these states
- 18:46that really need some. Right.
- 18:49Well, and I think it gives you direct contact with an advisory
- 18:55person within the government. I mean, short of having to hire
- 18:59an attorney that maybe doesn't understand the situation because
- 19:03you're dealing at a federal level.
- 19:05Well, you've got a direct voice to the USDA with this advisory
- 19:10position that they put on board and can help you in ways that
- 19:15you can combat some of these agencies that that come about.
- 19:20And, you know, so at least you feel like you've got an Ave. or,
- 19:25or fighting chance against some of this.
- 19:27They'll give you some direction as to how to posture yourself
- 19:32well when you're approached by all these things.
- 19:35Yeah, I, I could not agree more on that.
- 19:38It's one of those situations that you get a letter in the
- 19:40mail and it's outlined and all this legal jargon and all these
- 19:44things, what you have to do and the dates you have to have it
- 19:46done by. And hell, you might get the
- 19:48letter in the mail on March 5th and it said it was due by March
- 19:511st. Like you, it's just really
- 19:54overwhelming for a lot of people sometimes.
- 19:56And it is just a really great situation in scenario where you
- 19:59have someone that is able to kind of decide for that, reach
- 20:03out to and provide some of that oversight and provide some of
- 20:07that just real need that we need in agriculture.
- 20:11Yeah. Well, and it takes on a huge
- 20:14role, not not only specific points, but you know, we talked
- 20:18about the, you know, foreign ownership of Magland, of
- 20:23antitrust, of monopoly. I mean, it, it, it just goes
- 20:27through the entire spectrum of things that we have talked about
- 20:31for years. And and she really breaks down
- 20:35and outlines a plan to attack on all fronts of those things.
- 20:40You know, from from the independent rancher that that
- 20:43has had an unjustice done to blig conglomerates that you know
- 20:48what, we're finally going to put some teeth and some meat into
- 20:51these antitrust and monopoly laws and get off dead center
- 20:56and, and do something about it. And I'm just encouraged how, you
- 21:02know, as we talked a little bit off air, she is a private
- 21:06property advocate. She's an attorney that that was
- 21:09her specialty in the private sector.
- 21:13So it's near and dear close to her, not to mention that she has
- 21:17a, a great AG background behind it.
- 21:20But I, I, I think, I think we're in the right direction and, and
- 21:25looks like she has taken the initiative to really back up her
- 21:30words and her thoughts there. Yeah, absolutely.
- 21:33My biggest thing is I hope that there is, like you said,
- 21:37something to back everything up and that this isn't just another
- 21:41thing that they're implementing and we'll see a little bit of
- 21:43action out of them and then it kind of trickles off.
- 21:45My biggest hope and prayer is that this is truly something
- 21:49that we see action come out of because I think that that is the
- 21:52biggest theme that we have seen for a while as there's a lot of
- 21:55talk on a lot of things and we get our hopes up and there's a a
- 21:59little bit of action and then it just kind of falls off.
- 22:02And so I hope that this is really something that we're able
- 22:04to look back on and look as a catalyst and a turning point in
- 22:09the agricultural industry on some of that oversight that is
- 22:12really needed both at the independent rancher level and
- 22:15also at the corporate level as well.
- 22:18Yeah. Well, we can.
- 22:19We can hope so. But again, even having the USDA
- 22:24make an announcement to that effect is a huge win for private
- 22:30property and, and, and for agriculture in general.
- 22:33I, I know I have testified before and talked about the big
- 22:38four and what control they have. You know, the direct quote.
- 22:43And, and he actually was a, a Democratic congressman from
- 22:46Kansas has said, oh hell, you Cowboys have been pissed off at
- 22:50the BIG4 all your life. You're just always mad, always
- 22:53mad, always mad and just discredited the whole deal when
- 22:57you've got somebody now that's realizes there's a damn problem
- 23:01there and is outlining something to do about it, and that's
- 23:05tremendous strides over anything we've done up today.
- 23:11Yeah, absolutely. I could not agree more, John, on
- 23:14everything that you brought up today and brought to our
- 23:18attention and to our audience. Is there anything else that we
- 23:20kind of need to hit on or touch on before we wrap it up today,
- 23:23John? I think we're good.
- 23:25We hope this up and down in the market kind of levels out.
- 23:30You know, I mean, I think everybody pretty defeated and
- 23:34the Packer got a big win the end of last week.
- 23:37But as so many of these, whether it be a news announcement or
- 23:41whatever it is that we have these tear downs of the market
- 23:44and we fall off the market still fundamentally is sound and
- 23:48resilient. And just like we saw yesterday
- 23:52and the first of the week, it just comes running right back.
- 23:55So hopefully the downs aren't as down and the rebound is, is, is
- 24:00better. So anyway, I, I, I still feel
- 24:03we're kind of in the driver's seat.
- 24:05Absolutely. I could not agree more on that.
- 24:07It is a volatile market out there, but the rebounds that we
- 24:10have been seeing have been really encouraging at the exact
- 24:13same time. So John, thank you for your time
- 24:16today. Thanks for coming on, sharing
- 24:17your thoughts inside everything that you have to bring to our
- 24:20audience. We really appreciate it here.
- 24:22To all of our audience members, thanks for listening to another
- 24:24episode of the Cattle USA Daily Podcast.
- 24:27We will see you all next time. Have a great weekend y'all.