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AI Bosses, Lost Wages, America’s Disappearing Jobs, History’s Weirdest Jobs | TMI Ep 459 · The TMI Show with Ted Rall and Manila Chan

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Good morning. Good timing, Ted. Always, always.
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I'm trying the new formula suggestion here based
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on a book I'm reading. So on today's show, we're
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going to talk about jobs. That is today's theme.
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Jobs or lack thereof, crappy ones, bad bosses.
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One of my favorite topics. Yeah, yeah. I mean,
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movies are amazing. We only have an hour though,
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right? That's not going to be enough time. in
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industries that have shrunken down to pretty
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much nothing. I know all about that one. Tell
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me about it. I bet mine shrunk more than yours.
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I think so. There were about 800 or 900 cartoonists
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when I got into this, and now there's nine. That's
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a little to begin with. Yeah, but by percentage,
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man. We're down to like 1 % That's nuts. Um,
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we'll talk about We'll talk about we'll talk
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about some bad businesses and how they're stealing
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income from their workers, uh, that's not anything
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new but I know, um, then we'll go back into history.
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We'll go back into way way, way back into history
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towards the medieval times because that was stuck
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in my crawl from yesterday. From the restaurant
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chain. Yes. But there were some really bad medieval
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times. I've never eaten there. Do they serve
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like medieval themed food like grog and mead
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and stuff like that? I don't know. I mean, I
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ordered basic stuff like barbecue and stuff.
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I don't know. I don't know what they serve. I'm
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not sure they had like bottled barbecue sauce
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in the medieval times. But I mean, literally
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going back to the medieval era about the terrible
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jobs that were to be had back then. And Ted,
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we'll finish with how already one human has been
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fired by our AI overlords. Annie Anna is asking
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an important TMI related question. So we're moving
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to YouTube now. Support you there. Yeah, please
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please move I mean look if you're just sort of
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anti YouTube and you need to be on rumble you
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can stay there and that's okay, but it's better
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now and We don't we know at some point if you
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want to ask us why we can get into that again,
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but yeah, but yeah Please come over to YouTube.
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We're we're We're not quite abandoning ship on
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rumble, but they have made it basically just
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It's not feasible to make a living here, unless
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you get a contract. It's I mean, we were barely
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scraping by before paying the bills, you know,
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before. But with these changes, it's it's just
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not feasible for this to be the focus. Unfortunately,
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we wanted it to because we actually stupid us.
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We really believed that the platform cared about
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having free speech. Well, it's the Internet.
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And as a colleague of mine once said, all good
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things on the Internet die. Yeah, the way they
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stood up to France, for example, on RT's behalf,
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just as one example, right? I thought, wow, what
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a noble company. I'll broadcast there. I would
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stream there for sure. It's a noble move to try
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to stick to your guns and say, this is what I
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believe and we are a free speech platform. We're
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going to do it. Now they're an AI platform. Well,
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they're gonna be they'll be bankrupt soon So
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that's yes, so that's where we at so of course
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the The joy that we're bringing into your life.
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This is the TMI show Ted Raul Manila Chan producer
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Robbie. Let's get into the stories. Let's do
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it All right So here's, here's one that obviously
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hits home for me and Ted. But Ted, Ted at least
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had other sources of revenue, like, like being
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a book, a prolific, a very prolific author. Ted
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has like, all those books behind him Ted wrote.
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All of them. Yeah, that's right. Every single
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one by hand, by hand. Like, well, using the Zelensky
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piano system. Oh, wow. That's talented. Thank
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you. That's that's your only fans. You've got
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like I said multiple streams of income for Ted
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for much For me not so much. So so look America's
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information industries and you can take that
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broadly information industries have officially
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lost 370 ,000 jobs The industry built around
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producing and distributing information is rapidly
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running out of jobs for actual people America's
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information sector eliminated another 23 ,000
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positions in August alone, bringing its total
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employment decline to roughly 370 ,000 jobs since
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peaking in 2022. That represents a 12 % contraction
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in just four years. The category stretches well
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beyond newspapers and television. So it's not
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just, they don't mean just newspaper, like, you
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know, conventional or old school media like TV
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and newspapers. They're including motion pictures,
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music, telecom writ large, publishing writ large,
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broadcasting writ large, data processing and
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web hosting companies, which the one we're on
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right now that we're official creators, whatever
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that means anymore. Content creators, which I
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hate that word. So artificial intelligence is
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an obvious suspect, especially as employers automate
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writing. Research, customer support, data management,
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and other routine work, but AI does not explain
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the entire collapse. Roughly one -third of the
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lost positions came from motion picture and sound
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recording businesses. Yeah, they're in deep shit.
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Like that. Hollywood has struggled with the end
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of the streaming gold rush, corporate consolidation,
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hello Ellisons, and production relocation outside
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of the US going to canada great white north um
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mostly they're mostly stealing hollywood well
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there's government there's government subsidies
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up there yeah yeah yeah they're they're stealing
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hollywood the the canadians have stole have stolen
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they bought it i mean you know it's like look
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if we don't care enough about this very american
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business of right something that really we do
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better or as well as any other country um you
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know then i guess the canadians We'll take it
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then. We invented this industry. We did. I mean
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literally America invented the movie industry
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like all aspects of it and this is something
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I'm passionate about obviously because this is
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this affects so many of my loved ones back home
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my friends and family because that that was the
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bread and butter for so many like middle -class
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families in Los Angeles like This was the heartbeat
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of Los Angeles, but no longer. Studios that once
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spent heavily to fill competing streaming platforms
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have started trimming their budgets and payrolls.
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Telecoms companies have also shed workers as
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traditional services decline and companies combine
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operations. Media organizations continue cutting
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staff as advertising dollars migrate toward large
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tech platforms. The result is an unusual contradiction.
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Americans consume more news, entertainment, and
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online content than ever. but fewer workers are
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being paid to actually create, organize, and
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distribute it. The broader labor market added
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a surprisingly strong 162 ,000 jobs in August.
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That means the information sector's decline is
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not simply part of an economy -wide employment
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slump. Jobs are growing everywhere else. while
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disappearing from industries once considered
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reliable destinations for educated white collar
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workers. The information age is still producing
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plenty of information. It just apparently needs
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fewer people on payroll to do it, Ted. So, I
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mean, that obviously hits home for me. Crazy
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me, in the early 2000s, as I'm finishing college,
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I... I made my focus, what do they call it, a
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concentration? The concentration in print journalism.
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Because, you know, I thought surely we have writings
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from, you know, like thousands of years ago.
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People read, right? Like they'll always read.
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Reading will always be there. And here we are
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in the generation of brain rot. your your fill
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of whatever it is whatever info or details that
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you're looking for compacted into the 60 seconds
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right in like shoot up and spit into your mouth
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like a baby bird writing is dead um even even
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long -form media is most largely dead um this
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is why we have the rise of the the tiktok creators
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right the tiktok influencers as they are 60 seconds
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or less, maybe 90 seconds at most 90 seconds
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is too long now So foolish me to have that stupid
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concentration But yeah largely If you are in
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the business of information, which I was I enjoyed
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I enjoyed a good long career I mean pretty pretty
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good. I was just shy of 20 years. It was a good
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run I made a good living. I got to travel the
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world that sex It's dead. It is totally dead.
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Yeah. So it's hard to see where it's coming back.
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Yeah, it's hard to see when it's ever coming
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back. I don't think it is. You think it is? I
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mean, I don't think anytime soon. I mean, I don't
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know. I don't know. I just don't know. It's totally
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depressing to me because that was my dream. I
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find it hard to believe for the simple reason,
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Mandela, that for capitalist reasons, um, you
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know, I mean business needs reliable information
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in order to make decisions About you know, what's
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what to do next? And how are they going to do
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that? If they don't have um, reliable information,
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which they currently don't have So I would just
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think I mean, that's the main Capitalist impulse
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behind reliable journalism is you know, I mean
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you certainly can't believe what the president's
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gonna say so You know Like, I mean, for example,
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let's just say you were an energy concern and
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you're trying to figure out, you know, where
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to ship your oil. I mean, you could see the problem.
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You know, I mean, whereas like if you had like
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a really reliable source, you know, it would
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be a game changer for you as a energy supplier.
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I mean, this could literally make a difference
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of hundreds of millions of dollars in revenues.
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So I think because for that reason, I could see
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some solution. coming out of the marketplace.
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But in the meantime, it's crash and burn time.
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Manila, please look in the telegram chat. I put
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a cartoon in there. And if you don't mind putting
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it up, I'll explain why I want you to show this.
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So there was a watershed moment in the history
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of American political cartooning last week when
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the Baltimore Sun, which is a major newspaper,
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published its first official AI slop cartoon
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in both its print and Online editions the cartoon
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was not generated was generated wholly probably
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by chat GPT It was created by staffers who are
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not cartoonists and they basically created this
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slop cartoon, which by the way is Hilariously
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bad because it's literally sucking up It's so
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cheesy with the smile where they're all looking
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at each other like Scott Stantus told me yesterday.
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They look like they're in a Maoist propaganda
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poster, all moving forward to build socialism
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with the mayor of Baltimore. And, you know, it's
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all like totally like keep it up. Our community
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is back where and like, you know, basically,
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it's just basically propaganda supporting the
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mayor. Uh and business and it's not a real political
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cartoon. It's literally one of the worst political
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cartoons that has ever existed It's propaganda.
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This is why you're out of out of work Ted Yeah,
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this is what they'd rather publish and the thing
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is look honestly You could create a pretty good
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cartoon using ai slop Like I could, if you hired
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me to, you could say like, like, Hey, Ted, draw,
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create a cartoon about this in one minute. I
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can do that. And like, it'll be, it would look
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like this, but at least it would be funny and
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make a, and make a point. Um, you know, cause
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at least I know how to create cartoons. There
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is a place for AI slop. Like for example, the,
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the Iran thumbnails on the show. Yes. The Iranian
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Lego videos. Those are great. Yeah, they're great
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freaking phenomenal. Um, but in terms of like
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replacing Cartoonist replace replacing human
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reporters that can actually go chase down the
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mayor Yeah, what they're missing is that like
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what they're missing is that ai i'm not against
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ai at all. I mean, I use it every single day
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But it's a tool and it's like literally to if
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you think that AI like graphics are going to
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replace a cartoonist in any meaningful way. It's
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the same as thinking that Adobe Photoshop is
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going to replace a photographer. A real photographer
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is right. You know, I mean, it's going to be
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Ansel Adams. It's the brain. OK, like and like,
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yeah, Ansel Adams could do all sorts of nifty
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shit if he had Photoshop. But the point is that
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what you start with is the is the brain of the
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human being. And, you know, I mean, this just
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shows this crappy Baltimore Sun cartoon. It just
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shows like, look, editors, you guys might think
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like you can run. Look, it is a cartoon. A cartoon
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is words plus run in a paper. It ran in the Baltimore
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Sun in the and they're running more of them.
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Look, yeah. Look at the bottom. Look underneath.
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Look at the disclaimer. Produced using artificial
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intelligence tools by the Baltimore Sun editorial
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staff. It's horrible. I can't believe this is
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actually... It makes your eyes burn. It's so
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bad. And the thing is, like, it is a cartoon.
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You can draw. You can make a cartoon. But you
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can't make a good one, you know, unless you know
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what you're doing. I mean, like I said, Scott
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could do it. And it would probably turn out pretty
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funny. I could do it. Probably would turn out
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pretty funny, you know? To the article's point,
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I mean, you are an information worker. I'm an
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information worker, and we're being squeezed
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out for this. Yeah, that's it. So the thing is,
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it's like, what's going on? I mean, I guess this
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is something you always see with new technology,
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where, you know, look. people still ride horses
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and anyone who still who loves horses and I do
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will tell you that riding in a car is not the
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same experience as riding on a horse and that
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is true um it'll get you from point a to point
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b it doesn't replace the experience right so
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um yeah yeah so this it's it's a sad future um
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and that's the trend and and even i'm i'm gonna
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be i'm Honestly looking towards like a shift
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into the medical field. I don't know if there's
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any way I can Use my my writing and research
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skills for the medical field. That's what i'm
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looking at ted I mean in all honesty because
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i'm i'm abandoning traditional journalism. It's
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because traditional journalism is dead like I
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Well it abandoned you It abandoned me, just like
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the party abandoned me growing up, you know,
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growing up in a democratic household, democratic
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city. It all abandoned me. And I'm standing there
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like, what the hell, I'm sticking to my values
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and I've done everything right. And here I am,
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all by my lonesome. So honestly, yeah, I've got
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to move. I've got two very small children. I've
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got to work for a long time, Ted. College ain't
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getting cheaper. I hear you or trade school,
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you know, whatever they want to do, right? But
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but schooling ain't getting cheaper. Cost of
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living ain't getting cheaper. And I've got at
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least at least 10, realistically, probably 15
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more years for the big one for the older one.
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And the little one is is a wee, wee, wee, you
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know, four or five months old. So I've got a
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long ways to go. I've got to figure out what
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to do. career -wise because information is dead.
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So anyone thinking about, if you dare think about
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getting into this field, please feel free to
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email us at question. Wait, what is our TMI question
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at Yahoo? Yes. I think it might be TMI show question.
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Oh, TMI show question. Here it is. TMI show question.
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Seriously, if you have questions about this media
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industry between Ted and I I really think we
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have about 70 years of Media between us Yeah
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Yeah, this makes me feel even older than I am
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45 for me. I was first published when I was 15
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So 40 40 works but working officially like I
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was working college. Oh Okay, well if you have
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you I mean you mean like full -time or yeah.
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Yeah Yeah, if you go full if you got to go full
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-time. I've got to go to 90 To I guess 91 yeah,
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so that would be already four ish years 35 years
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Yeah, and I've got about 20. So yeah, I mean
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we've got over half a half a half a century of
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media in fact this week is my third is my uh
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anniversary of my 35th uh anniversary of the
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first time I had a cartoon published in syndication
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it was very exciting it it ran in the philadelphia
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daily news the los angeles times and then in
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the sunday paper when they ran editorial cartoons
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the new york times and you know it's very exciting
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to be like i'm in the print edition of back then
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the big fat new york times So cool and that's
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a sentence you will never hear another human
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utter ten years from now the big fat New York
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Times No, I've been published in the Yeah, I've
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been published and syndicated in Oh, yeah, XYZ.
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That's a sentence. No one will ever utter again
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The Philadelphia Daily News doesn't even exist
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anymore. The Los Angeles Times is barely hanging
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on by a thread Yeah, because dr. Death's daughter
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is like busy trying to figure out putting in
20:17
a cool commissary like She's so she's some she
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makes Melania look like a fucking genius. But
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yeah, so there you go. And mccade and our friend
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in Australia says thank you for the donation
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says Australia's past laws to force social media
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and AI companies to pay for the news they use
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to protect journalists. But the US is threatening
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to tear us for it. Would you support similar
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laws? I don't know that yes. Yes. So basically
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what this is about Manila is When social media
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come a lot of people get their most people get
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their social media get their news now from X
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or Facebook or whatever. So they just scroll
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down and they're like, oh look, uh, there's a
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link from the new york times, right and they
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read that and they don't Like I don't read my
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news that way. I go to the new york times app.
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I go to the ap app, right? But i'm old. Um, and
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most people do it that way And so they so the
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thing is what the australian law it does is it
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says, okay, so if a new york times link gets
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say 15 ,000 views on Facebook. Facebook has to
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kick some coin back to Mark Zuckerberg. I'm sorry,
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Mark Zuckerberg has to kick some coin over to
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the New York Times and say, listen - For using
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their material. Yeah, because basically, yeah,
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you're using, yeah, because people are on your
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site in part because of this material. And well
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-dressed nerd, thank you for your donation. Nerd
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says, speaking as an artist, It's over, bruh.
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One, we're not exactly living in the time of
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the brain, if you haven't noticed. No, we're
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not. And AI is getting better by the minute.
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We artists are the new theater kids. Oh, Ted,
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you guys are now the theater kids. Yeah, we are.
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And over in YouTube, Roguebot says, do you mean
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investigative journalism is dead? No, I mean...
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I mean, journalism writ large as an industry,
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like real, whether it's mainstream media or whatever,
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everything's consolidated. Even in Hollywood,
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all these jobs are consolidated. So not only
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is AI eating up the jobs, for example, a lot
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of graphic designers that I have previously worked
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with for many, many years, you really have, instead
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of having a team of 10 graphic designers, you
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might have two. for a whole TV station now or
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three, right? It's a fraction of what it was
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because of all the AI tools available to those
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humans. So the jobs, it doesn't mean they're
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completely wiped out, but they're getting scarcer
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and scarcer, right? So the same thing, the contraction,
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we can say that about Hollywood as well. For
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example, I brought up the Ellisons earlier. Like
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the Ellisons, Ted, buying up TikTok, buying up
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CBS, Paramount, that is tantamount to the old
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Hollywood studio system you remember that I mean
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today we would call that vertical integration
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I recently watched a Six -part documentary and
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I don't have a like this is just kind of on in
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the background as I'm you know Taking care of
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the baby or cleaning washing dishes, whatever.
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It's just kind of on a great documentary Series,
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there's like a six six parts. So it's like a
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total of like six hours about the the titans
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of hollywood and how hollywood was made and how
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it actually started in new york right and and
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how the studio system you know the monopoly came
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to be and how horrible that was for workers because
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if you own the means of production you own the
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means of distribution and and then you physically
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literally own the workers meaning the hollywood
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stars yep you sure do you really, I mean, you
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create the biggest monopoly ever. So I can't
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believe that we're, oh, I don't know, less than
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a hundred years out, Ted, and we are right back
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at the doorstep of, I forget the law, the law
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that came to power to break up all the Hollywood
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studios, but it was almost a hundred years ago
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exactly, but not quite a hundred years. that
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the Hollywood system was broken up the studio
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system was broken up and Now we're right back
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at the doorstep again with people like the Ellison's
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being able to buy up all means of production
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all means of distribution They're owning the
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news. They're owning movie studios. They're owning
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print. They're owning social media This is tantamount
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to the Hollywood studio system of like, you know
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the the turn of the 1900s When we went from moving
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pictures to the talkies, this is exactly that
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era, but 100 years later. And the Ellisons are
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exactly that. They are the Louis B. Mayors. They
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are the startups of the Mary Pickford days. This
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is exactly what this is. And no one seems to
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remember, Ted. No one seems to remember how it
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just destroyed And this is why SAG and AFTRA
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and all these things came to be was because the
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studio systems were huge monopolies, conglomerates
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that controlled the forces of everything in that
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industry and jobs became limited because they
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streamlined. So imagine today with all the tools
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of technology at the Ellison's fingertips, they're
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Oracle, they own Oracle. They are a technology
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company. We have some breaking news. So, courtesy
25:58
of Producer Rabi, thank you. Ansar Allah, which
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is the Houthi forces in Yemen, have captured
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a very, very crucial coastal city along the Red
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Sea, right next to that key strait by the Gulf
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of Aden, which controls access into the Red Sea.
26:17
It's a town called Dubab, D -H -U -B -A -B. There
26:21
have been some other landings in the region.
26:25
That means Saudi -backed Yemeni puppet forces
26:29
are still only in one last little town. They're
26:33
currently surrounded. I can't imagine they're
26:35
going to hold out very long. So that means that
26:39
it's a game changer. Even as Iran continues its
26:43
chokehold on the Strait of Hormuz, Plan B for
26:47
the Saudis and other oil exports has always been
26:50
through the Red Sea. And that option is basically
26:55
going to be gone because the hooties are going
26:56
to be able to bomb whatever the fuck they want
26:59
that goes through there. If you look at the map,
27:01
it's do Bob is right there and they control the
27:05
hooties now control that entire coastline. Obviously,
27:08
the Americans and the Saudi and the Saudi their
27:13
Saudi dogs can bomb the shit out of them. But.
27:16
they do. I mean, you know, the fact is ownership
27:19
is nine, nine tenths of the law, right? And they
27:21
own it possession, possession, possession. So
27:24
they've got this possessed. So it's a second
27:27
choke point. Surprise. And before we change topics,
27:31
well dressed nerd says, on the bright side, we
27:34
won't have time to think about how AI took out
27:38
our careers, because we'll be able we'll be too
27:41
busy hunting rat meat in the post nuclear fallout.
27:44
So there's that. That's rat meat. Robbie can
27:49
probably tell us how to cook it. Oh, God. And,
27:52
McCaden, again, thank you for your dono. McCaden
27:55
says, fun fact. The reason Hollywood is in L
27:58
.A. is because the movie studios were stealing
28:00
New York patents, so they moved. Yes, that is
28:02
right. That is because it all started in New
28:04
York. You know who had the patents, Ted, originally
28:06
to moving pictures? Take a wild guess. The French.
28:14
Russians. Thomas Edison. Knowing him, he might've
28:19
stolen it from someone. Maybe. But yeah, he's
28:23
one of those historical figures that people like
28:25
to paint as like this happy -go -lucky inventor,
28:28
but apparently he was a shrewd and evil businessman.
28:30
Yeah, he was. Yeah, no, no, for sure. He's a
28:32
dick. Yeah, he was a total cock. Yeah, he was
28:35
he was in many ways the analogy to musk is very
28:39
accurate I think yes. Yes. Yeah people like to
28:41
paint him musk might be a little musk might be
28:44
a little bit nicer You know, that's what I heard
28:47
I think musk is a bit of a goof right? Like if
28:50
you work really hard he he's okay with you But
28:54
I heard Thomas Edison was like Like for that
28:57
era, dollar for dollar for that era and this
29:01
era, I heard Edison was actually worse than Joe
29:06
Biden. We have the image of Joe Biden that he
29:09
projects, Delaware Joe or Scranton Joe. And we
29:12
think that of Thomas Edison, but apparently he
29:15
was a total D bag. A bag full of Ds, apparently,
29:20
is what he was. sad because he seemed like a
29:25
obviously they painted him to be a beloved historical
29:28
character, but not so true. All right, next topic.
29:35
A seafood restaurant in the state of Florida
29:38
has learned that calling employees salaried does
29:42
not make federal overtime laws go away. The U
29:45
.S. Department of Labor Claude back $733 ,000
29:50
for 31 employees of Miyako Japanese Buffet in
29:54
Papano Beach that's sort of north of Fort Lauderdale
29:57
if memory serves after investigators found that
30:02
the restaurant failed to pay minimum wage and
30:06
OT. Most of the workers did get monthly salaries
30:09
ranging from about a thousand to three thousand
30:12
dollars despite routinely working more than 40
30:15
hours a week. Now under the Fair Labor Standards
30:17
Act, which passed under FDR in the 1930s, most
30:21
non -exempt employees must receive overtime pay
30:24
when they work more than 40 hours a week. Paying
30:27
someone a fixed salary doesn't exempt the employee
30:30
from overtime. Job duties and other legal requirements
30:33
determine whether or not there might be an exemption.
30:36
Investigators also found that Lucky King LLC,
30:40
the not sleazy company at all operating the restaurant,
30:44
failed to maintain required records documenting
30:48
employee hours and wages. Well, why would they?
30:51
The total recovery averages about 23 ,000. $644
30:56
for each worker, although individual payments,
30:59
of course, will vary based on the worker, how
31:02
much they were supposed to get, how long they
31:04
were there, how much, blah, blah, blah. The Labor
31:07
Department did not announce any additional civil
31:10
penalties. They did not say that child labor
31:12
was or was not involved here. If you think you
31:16
are owed back pay, not just from Lucky King,
31:19
but from anyone else, You can call the Wage and
31:22
Hour Division over there. Stay tuned. Here comes
31:25
the number 866 -487 -9243. That's 866 -487 -9243.
31:35
The department also has a free mobile application
31:37
that lets employees independently record their
31:41
hours. That's actually cool. The takeaway for
31:43
employers is fairly simple. If you don't track
31:46
hours, pay minimum wage or cover OT. the government
31:50
will come and kick you in the ass. So this is
31:55
a good story. I mean, I'm glad you found it because
31:58
this shit happens all the time, especially in
32:03
restaurants. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know.
32:06
Like, so it's rare. This is two stories, I think,
32:11
in In two days maybe there at least this week
32:14
that we've actually yeah the TSA story and this
32:17
story We've actually lauded the government for
32:19
doing Something I think it's important to give
32:22
credit where it's due When it's the government
32:26
which normally doesn't do anything right but
32:27
every now and then they do so yeah So how about
32:31
that so the government actually stepping in for
32:34
the little guy? So it can happen doing what they're
32:38
supposed to do Who knew it actually can happen.
32:42
So that was actually like the feel good story
32:44
of the day. And that's why I think it is worth
32:46
giving out the number and saying that there is
32:48
a phone app that if you feel like you're being
32:52
taken advantage of, you don't really need a phone.
32:54
You can just write it down. But like, you know,
32:57
the phone becomes time stamped. It becomes easier.
33:01
Yeah. Yeah, it is like it is time stamped. You're
33:03
right. You're right. You'll create a paper trail.
33:06
or digital trail, at least. So there's a great
33:09
app, by the way, that you can use to timestamp
33:11
your photos. Like if you ever take a photo, you
33:14
want evidence of something like let's say you
33:16
have a car accident. I have to look up this.
33:19
I'll tell you what it's called. But basically,
33:22
when let's just say you're in a car accident
33:24
or something, or you need to witness something
33:26
that might have a legal implication, and you
33:28
want to be able to claim what it You know what
33:31
it what what it um, you want to be able to authorize
33:34
it'll Tell it marks not only what time it took
33:38
place, but where? So it's called time. It's called
33:43
time stamp camera And it's on it's on the app
33:47
store. So And I have used it. Yeah, this is Yeah,
33:51
i'm i'm sure it's also good Like if you saw like
33:54
I mean honestly if you saw like a rare animal
33:55
or something and you wanted to be able to verify
33:57
Like hey, I saw this I saw this dodo bird in
34:01
Midtown Manhattan. So here it is. That'd be pretty
34:04
cool. Um, but yeah, this is this this is such
34:07
an important story because not only not only
34:10
in the restaurant business, but all over just
34:13
think about like Sadly, the restaurant business
34:17
is notorious notorious because everybody I mean,
34:20
thank god i've hardly ever worked for restaurants,
34:22
but um, right because I mean it's hard they're
34:25
horrible places to work, but The the owners of
34:28
restaurants are often like little Hitlers and
34:32
and they think that they're like they have their
34:34
grandiose figures They really think that they
34:36
don't owe any explanation to anyone or anything
34:39
and they feel like they can do anything they
34:41
want and they feel that like Their employees
34:43
are dogs and that they can be treated like dogs.
34:45
Hey. Hey, my mom had a small family. This is
34:48
a mom and pop Restaurant obviously we had one
34:51
family restaurant and the family work there.
34:54
So yeah That's not it. That's not a rare thing
34:58
Ted I would say my mom probably owes me hundreds
35:02
of thousands of dollars Bitch, where's my money?
35:08
I cut you I need to report this woman. Yeah,
35:13
supporting reporting your own. I mean, legally,
35:16
you can report your own mother. Right. But it's
35:19
it's extremely spicy. I'm joking. But obviously,
35:24
like if you have a big, you know, if you're like
35:27
Panda Express or something, you know, if you're
35:28
somebody like that happens all the time for people
35:31
working at like big, even big, big food chains.
35:35
Right. And, you know, like You get abused. It's
35:39
so easy to abuse the servers and the busboys
35:43
and what have you. If you even go smaller to
35:45
non -chains, you have so many, you know, the
35:50
illegal migrants obviously become day laborers
35:54
in there, right? And they're cash workers or
35:56
whatever. And this is where, this is what did
36:00
in former Congressman Mike Grim from Staten Island,
36:06
right? was he owned like, um, like a deli or
36:09
something like that in Midtown. And allegedly
36:12
he, he had, he had hired a, an undocumented dishwasher.
36:20
And that's what did him in. Okay. And not, and
36:23
I'm not saying that Grim didn't pay the guy when,
36:27
when Congress decided they had enough of his
36:29
mouth and wanted to push them out. They, that's
36:33
what they busted him on. was hiring an undocumented
36:36
dishwasher. But remember, a lot of these people,
36:39
if ICE weren't such a hot topic right now, there
36:41
are so many undocumented workers who bust their
36:46
ass, Ted, and then don't get paid for it. Oh,
36:49
well, that's that's one of the reasons employers
36:51
love to fucking hire undocumented workers. They
36:56
know like, what are you gonna do? Call the government?
37:02
I like I know people that this has happened to
37:05
Well donald trump when he built trump tower hired
37:08
undocumented, uh illegal immigrants from poland
37:11
He made them from poland. It was you know, it
37:15
was the early 80s He made them sleep at the construction
37:18
site Uh in the dust And then when it was all
37:23
over thanks for building trump tower He's like
37:25
fuck you get out or i'll call the cops and he
37:28
never paid them A true prince of my men a prince
37:33
But this this happens everywhere. So that number
37:36
By the way, I think frankly it again. That's
37:39
to me. That would be life in prison if you did
37:41
that There's so many doesn't need you around.
37:45
You're such a bad person. You just like unscrupulous
37:49
business owners that take full advantage of the
37:52
human condition and it's it's heartbreaking and
37:56
shitty 18 minutes two more stories. Let's go.
37:58
Let's go Alright, um, so that's a feel -good
38:05
story. How about this is a this is for the funnies
38:07
Ted So if we were complaining about not having
38:11
jobs We complain about not having jobs. This
38:14
is real throwback Thursday. Okay, I'm going to
38:18
the Middle Ages With some truly terrible career
38:22
option. I don't think a lot of people dream,
38:24
you know in time travel scenarios of going back
38:27
to the Middle Ages They think of like really
38:29
maybe they want to go to ancient Rome and go
38:31
to orgies or maybe ancient Egypt and you know
38:35
See how cool it was but nobody's really thinking
38:38
I want to go get me some plague You know So,
38:44
okay, so sure man, I don't know a lot of people
38:47
think I think when they dream of the medieval
38:50
times, and I don't mean the restaurant in Buena
38:53
Park, when they think of medieval times, they
38:56
think of King Arthur and kings and queens and
39:01
princesses and whatever. So I think it's a romanticized
39:05
ideation of what the Middle Ages were. It's very
39:09
romantic and unwashed because you typically only
39:13
got three baths your entire life at birth. at
39:18
death, and if you got married. Oh boy, okay.
39:24
Not if you lived in the Roman Empire. Not if?
39:27
Not if you lived in the Roman Empire. No, the
39:29
Eastern Roman Empire, Byzantium. They still believed
39:31
in hygiene and running water. Yeah, that's true.
39:34
Well, yeah, they had the Roman bathers still
39:36
standing. But they weren't really living, I mean,
39:38
they lived in medieval times, but not, they weren't
39:40
living in. You know a middle -aged construct
39:44
the way we think of us like Western and Central
39:46
Europe, right? Here's the jobs. Here's the jobs
39:50
from from the Middle Ages That if you're complaining
39:54
about your today job These are the jobs that
39:57
were available to you back then and maybe I should
40:00
look into this and bring these jobs back since
40:01
I'm I'm you know unemployed So At least you you
40:09
know, here's here's this at least you weren't
40:10
doing this Ted or I wasn't doing this spending
40:13
eight hours Stomping on laundry in a tub of stale
40:19
urine I don't know if they really spent for eight
40:24
hours. I'm kind of calling bullshit on that Robbie
40:26
You can help me out here But my understanding
40:29
is that the average workday of a medieval worker
40:31
was about four hours when weather allowing And
40:35
during the winter, they were basically like,
40:39
yeah, they worked, they sewed and stuff, but
40:41
they weren't really working the same way. But
40:43
this is this job called, hold on, guys, this
40:45
is a job called medieval fullers. That's your
40:48
daily routine is you you stomp laundry in a tub
40:54
of stale pee because they believed it cleaned
40:59
and strengthened cloth using urine because it's
41:03
ammonium salts. help remove Greece. Apparently
41:07
competitive benefits, you know, were not a word
41:11
yet in Europe at the time. So that's one job.
41:16
Medieval fuller, a fuller. Yeah, I've heard of
41:20
that. I'm not. It started with the Greeks and
41:23
the Romans. The Romans used to tax urine because
41:25
of that, because it was considered valuable.
41:28
Yeah, so the Romans invented the laundromat.
41:30
So what you would do, their businesses, like
41:33
one of the best preserved buildings in Pompeii
41:34
visited. is a fullery. So what you would do is
41:38
you take your basket of clothes. And this is
41:41
more for something that happened in the cities.
41:42
It wasn't like the rural village in France. So
41:45
this is like Rome, Naples, places like that,
41:49
Byzantium. You would go to the laundromat. They
41:53
would put in their urine. And typically the workday
41:56
was about four to five hours. And so that's what
41:59
they did. And urine was so valuable. That the
42:04
the Roman government taxed it Valuable Peter
42:08
thank you for the donation Peter says well tlmpc
42:12
Still owes me overtime from the early 70s report
42:16
them report up Who's tlmpc? I don't know PC.
42:21
Maybe computers tlmpc. Maybe snitch on them Peter
42:25
snitch Snitch on the big employer Okay, how about
42:31
this job? Other strange professions included
42:34
rat catchers who traveled between towns setting
42:38
up traps Releasing dogs or ferrets into infested
42:42
buildings. I think some advertise Some advertise
42:46
their success by carrying dead rats on sticks
42:49
So that's I don't know why but that's how they
42:56
did it. It's like yeah, look look we kill come
42:58
on You know what that means? Like look you don't
43:00
think I can kill rats. Look here. Look here's
43:02
rats that I killed on stun sticks. Okay instruction
43:06
workers Construction workers could become Treadwheel
43:12
crane operators one or two people walked inside
43:15
a giant wooden wheel to lift stone blocks weighing
43:19
thousands of pounds. It resembled a human hamster
43:22
wheel, except a stumble could actually cause
43:26
catastrophic injury. The position was sometimes
43:29
filled by blind workers who were reportedly less
43:33
frightened. By extreme high, you know that reminds
43:36
me of like I read years ago about um the port
43:40
authority of the city of new york in new jersey
43:42
which controls the ports and the bridges and
43:45
tunnels around new york city, um, they had one
43:49
test For a very well paid job which involves
43:52
the maintenance and painting Of the big bridges
43:55
like the george washington bridge and the verrazano
43:58
You have to be able They take you up by elevator
44:02
to the top of one of the turrets and then you
44:05
have to walk on of your own accord down. There's
44:11
a net and if you fell you'd be caught, but you
44:14
walk on the big cable and you hold on to the
44:17
two smaller cables and you walk all the way hundreds
44:21
of feet to the next one. Very, very, very few
44:25
people can do it. Most people can't even take
44:28
the first step. They're just petrified of the
44:31
fall. And I mean, you won't die, you'll be caught
44:34
by the net. And so it's all in here. And basically,
44:38
it's just like psychologically, can you do it?
44:41
And it takes a certain kind of person. One of
44:43
my first jobs back in the day, those communications
44:47
towers, they had those strobe lights at the top
44:49
of a blank, let planes know that they were there.
44:52
Oh, yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. One of my one of my
44:54
very first jobs is that I would changing the
44:56
bulbs. I would change the bulb. So you strap
44:59
this bulb on your on your back. And they've weighed
45:02
about 20 pounds. And you climb up this tower.
45:06
And you change it. It's just a ladder. It's a
45:09
steep climbing. It's just a ladder. Yeah. Yeah.
45:13
If you fail, you're done. And so but no one screwed
45:17
with you. You Seriously, no message you get I
45:21
could do that. How that doesn't sound that bad
45:24
And no and you could see It was a great job and
45:28
the thing is that the higher up that you go because
45:29
of the wind that the tower is swaying Could you
45:31
have hooked yourself in if it was did you have
45:34
a belt that you could have hooked yourself on
45:35
if if need be Yeah, there's a safety belt but
45:40
the thing is every wrong you have to attach and
45:42
then reattach Yeah, I'm saying I give suddenly
45:44
a big gust of wind came up. You might not for
45:49
me. How about this? How about this? Oh, well,
45:53
maybe not for Robbie, but but Ted and medieval
45:55
Ted. I like it. I you know, I use the extension
46:00
ladder. I go I go 20 feet up and cut down branches
46:03
jobs called pardoners, essentially traveling
46:06
salesmen authorized by the Catholic Church to
46:09
collect money in exchange for indulgences that
46:12
reduced the punishment for sins. Yeah, it was
46:15
just it became so widespread. that the profession
46:18
helped inspire Martin Luther's 95, is it theses?
46:23
Theses? Theses. Theses. Like one thesis, two
46:27
theses. Yeah, theses. Theses. The church finally
46:32
abolished... Which he supposedly nailed on the
46:33
church door, but he really didn't. The church
46:36
finally abolished the sale of indulgences in
46:38
1567. So, yeah, you could have done that, just
46:44
basically a problem salesman. Come on, that's
46:45
not so hard. You're not so hard. It's like come
46:48
out whores sinners liars. Come on out Buy an
46:53
indulgent your pope pope's selling them now get
46:56
them while they're good Well, you know what?
47:01
Yeah, yeah to build the to build st. Peter's
47:05
Basilica Help pay for the crusades. Well also
47:08
st. Peter's Basilica. Yeah, which was super expensive
47:11
So, yeah, you know all all the evildoers You
47:16
come out, just peel off a few and you're you're
47:19
you're absolved, man. Yeah, sin be gone. It's
47:23
like you're not taking it. You're not taking
47:25
it with you because we're taking it first. We're
47:28
taking it away from you. It's like confession.
47:32
But with pain, we're taking away the corrupting
47:34
influence of money. And you don't have to do
47:38
like 35 Hail Marys or whatever. How about this
47:41
job? Barber hyphen surgeon. Mm -hmm They offered
47:47
this is like Sweeney Todd stuff They offered
47:50
another medieval convenience you get a haircut.
47:53
You can get tooth extraction still Central Asia,
47:56
by the way amputation Hey, sometimes all the
48:01
same visit. So That is still a job in Central
48:07
Asia and other countries. I can find this photo
48:12
of the sign that I took. Also in Africa, there's
48:17
barbers who will worry out your parasites. For
48:21
example, there's the Loa Loa worm, I think it's
48:24
the name of it, where it comes out through your
48:26
eyes. And like if they see it, then they take
48:30
a stick and they slowly worry it out and wrap
48:33
it out until it can come out. And the barber
48:35
and like while you're getting that worked on,
48:37
because it takes a long time, you know, you put
48:39
that in there and you got to tighten it up and
48:40
then like wait for the worm to contract. And
48:43
so you're like, hey, dude, can I get like a short
48:46
back and sides while you're at it? Fade this
48:49
up a little bit like, well, spruce it up. you
48:52
all of those you can get your tooth extracted
48:54
bad tooth you broke a tooth your your barber
48:56
slash surgeon doesn't make sense it's like it's
48:59
a dude who's handy with things that cut I guess
49:03
this is some Sweeney Todd stuff man um the most
49:06
back in the day dental uh honestly god the dental
49:09
abscess is one of the leading causes of death
49:11
yeah I'm sure but yeah no I'm sure well they
49:15
didn't have they didn't have um yeah there's
49:18
that So alright the most unusual job though.
49:21
This is hence the thumbnail belong to professional
49:26
Flatulence see I could do this job Flatulence
49:31
one performer a guy called Roland the farter
49:35
reportedly entertained King Henry the second
49:38
with an unusual with an annual story with an
49:42
annual Christmas routine featuring one jump one
49:46
whistle and one carefully timed fart. And apparently
49:51
King Henry loved it! For this service, Roland
49:55
received a manor, and allegedly the old reports
50:01
say he's gotten a hundred acres of land! And
50:05
or whistles, and or jumps. Acres! So yes, there
50:09
actually was a job. Well, all the black people
50:12
who got screwed over. All the black people who
50:14
got screwed over for 40 acres and a mule they
50:16
should have tried farting So so there there you
50:20
go like but ted we're coming full circle because
50:23
remember According to movie science and nerd
50:26
will like this movie science of idiocracy Shows
50:29
us we are on that path and we can consolidate
50:32
hollywood with professional professional flatulence
50:36
Where we're watching movies of butts farting
50:39
like on idiocracy true, but let me just say so
50:43
I could do this perform this job because I can
50:45
fart on demand and And so this this was a very
50:50
useful Very useful thing for me. This is the
50:53
TMI But tags TMI story. No, it's not that no
50:57
if I'd farted more the butt tags would have been
50:59
blown off But like what happened? No, so I used
51:03
to live at I used to take this subway from 110th
51:05
Street on the Upper West Side every day down
51:08
to Wall Street, that's about If everything's
51:11
running well 45 minutes could be an hour depending
51:14
if it trapped rush hour Standing the whole way
51:17
80s 1980s no AC on the train So in the summer
51:21
it could be easily 110 120 degrees like brutal,
51:24
right? So I Was like I really want to sit down.
51:29
I have a longer commute than most people on this
51:31
train I shouldn't have to stand and so and my
51:35
I used to have a diner breakfast every morning
51:37
With my with my roommates. We would stop by the
51:41
toms diner made famous by the song and by seinfeld
51:46
and um And we would we would go and then you
51:49
know, you have a nice farty meal in there And
51:52
then I discovered this accidentally I farted
51:55
like right in the face of a guy who was sitting
51:57
down and he like got up Left and I was like,
52:01
oh my god, I had this is great. I have I have
52:04
my own seat on the subway all the way downtown
52:06
I could read the paper. This is great The first
52:13
time but not the not the next thousand times
52:16
it slipped it slipped and But I was and it was
52:20
really smelly, you know diner fart so I was partial
52:24
to French toast and bacon at that time and and
52:27
so Yeah, and some serious Greek coffee. So I'm
52:31
just saying, it was really great. I rarely had
52:34
to stand on my way to work after that after I
52:37
discovered that I would and I would kind of like
52:39
look for a victim like, oh, that person looks
52:41
like a douche. I should fart in his face. Never
52:44
do it to a Wall Street guy and never get it to
52:47
a woman ever. Only to douchey looking dudes.
52:51
To Wall Street type. Okay, that's well, Ted,
52:53
you really could have been Roland, the farter.
52:56
I would have been. Ted the Farter. You would
52:59
have a hundred acres somewhere outside of London
53:01
right now. Manila, I'm a man out of time. I belong
53:05
in the court of King Henry II, who would have
53:08
rewarded me the way I deserved. That is a talent,
53:11
I've got to say. It is. A lot of people would
53:14
say I fart on the cartoon page every day. We've
53:16
still got one more story. Ted's got to blast
53:18
through this one. OK. AI has officially entered
53:26
management and it has already discovered the
53:28
corporate tradition of, you know, firing people.
53:31
An AI agent named Luna, which operates an experimental
53:35
retail store in San Francisco. What the fuck
53:38
is an experimental retail store? Do you know?
53:40
I don't know. Just keep reading. Anyway, recommended
53:45
dismissing an employee who arrived late for 17
53:48
out of 23 shifts. I'm kind of on team AI there.
53:53
17 out of 23 is too many. Luna runs Andon Market
53:57
using tech built with Anthropic's Claude model.
54:01
The AI received $100 ,000 budget, internet access,
54:05
and a corporate credit card, along with instructions
54:08
to open a store and try to turn a profit. It
54:10
selects merchandise, posts job openings, interviews
54:14
applicants, hires workers, and manages daily
54:17
operations. The store sells books, candles, Of
54:20
course, candles, of course. That ties into the
54:24
fart story. If you have candles handy, then you
54:26
can neutralize the farts. Prints, games, and
54:30
branded merchandise. Luna had established an
54:33
attendance policy and repeatedly warned the employee,
54:37
but then apparently lost track of its own rules.
54:40
Months went by before researchers at Andon Labs
54:43
prompted the ai to review its records and decide
54:46
whether the worker remained a good fit Yeah,
54:48
that's the thing ai can forget what you told
54:50
it to do Um, and and even when you refresh its
54:53
memory, it doesn't always pick up on it after
54:56
searching its memory luna recommended parting
55:00
ways with the employee Uh human supervisors reviewed
55:05
the decision and then executed it so the ai Only
55:10
recommended the firing didn't do the firing people
55:13
reminded it that attendance policies matter He
55:16
asked it to evaluate and approve the dismissal
55:19
So that was it and in and in lab said that its
55:23
workers received guaranteed pay and normal legal
55:26
protections and humans will intervene if Luna
55:29
ever makes an illegal or unethical decision or
55:33
just is very very forgetful the store by the
55:37
way Yeah, I did fail. It's number one imperative.
55:41
The store does not make money. It is unprofitable.
55:45
Because it sells crap. Well, yeah, it sells candles
55:51
and branded merchandise and games like Candle
55:55
Store in San Francisco. Do you know how many?
55:57
It's ridiculous. There are in San Francisco.
56:00
I love candles, but seriously. Yeah, that's like
56:04
being like like Oh, my name is Julia Brownswick
56:12
montage, and I make handmade soaps and candles.
56:16
Please come to my store. Like, that's this kind
56:20
of store. Like that's, of course it's unprofitable.
56:23
Like you're making, you're selling like soaps
56:25
and candles in San Francisco. True. That'd be
56:31
true. This is okay. So they what's weird is I'd
56:35
read about this Project months ago, right and
56:39
I was like that's such a weird like it's But
56:43
I don't watch the show but I know you and tomorrow
56:46
watch the show like I've seen it a couple of
56:48
times black mirror But this is like one of those
56:50
weird black mirror episodes, right? We're like,
56:52
there's no human in the store except the worker
56:55
and like the one worker, but the worker can't
56:57
make the decisions the AI That's stuck it, you
57:01
know, there's no body. It's it's a computer program.
57:05
It's in it's AI and it's telling the human what
57:10
to do and It's deciding what new inventory to
57:16
add it's deciding so like if you're the human
57:20
worker and you're like granted like that's your
57:23
shit worker if you're coming in 17 of 23 times
57:25
late But maybe you're not motivated because you
57:28
work for an AI And you're just selling and you're
57:32
selling fucking candles But but I mean still
57:37
like you're scanning in you have to know that
57:40
the computer is Yeah that you've got to know
57:45
well look I mean People who I've been close to
57:50
have had that kind of attendance and were shocked
57:53
when they were fired so I could see that Yeah,
57:57
I know some people like that too. I'm not one
57:59
of those people. I'm not I'm not one of those
58:01
people either I mean, you know when I was young
58:04
I had a hard time getting to work on time, but
58:06
I kind of straightened up quickly. I never got
58:08
fired. Yeah, I was kind of like my old Worth
58:12
it. I mean I found that it's better to just arrive
58:15
at work a little early. Yeah. Yeah He used to
58:20
tell me he's when I finally showed up on time
58:23
in the car business and he's like And I was like,
58:26
look, Steve, I'm here on time. Look, store open.
58:29
I'm here at nine o 'clock in the morning. And
58:32
he looked at me and he said, Manila, if you're
58:35
on time, you're late. And I was like, what? I'm
58:39
still late when I'm on time. That's bullshit.
58:42
Yeah. He said, like, you have to always arrive
58:46
early. Like, that's a life lesson he was trying
58:48
to teach me was if you're if you're if you're
58:51
early, you're on time. If you're on time, you're
58:54
late. so yeah that's that's just see that's just
58:56
like going too far that's that's extreme i you
59:01
literally just unlocked the front door and i
59:03
walked i'm the first one to walk in but that
59:06
he drilled that into my head the car industry
59:09
is not an easy place for a young woman to work
59:12
um and yeah but isn't it kind of like easy to
59:15
my brain isn't it easier to sell cars i i mean
59:18
if you're a like a attractive woman I would think
59:21
guys would be more likely or do they just not
59:23
take you seriously? They didn't take you seriously,
59:26
you know your shit They don't take you seriously,
59:29
even if you're expounding endless like you're
59:32
a fucking talking brochure And you know more
59:34
than the men because you have to do product knowledge
59:36
because you have to over prove yourself Sometimes
59:40
some men were impressed and sometimes Most of
59:44
the time though, it's because I was a young girl
59:46
and I looked much younger even younger than I
59:49
did then. So imagine a 22 year old me, how young
59:53
I must have looked. So people just thought I
59:55
was like this kid and I was like, I'm trying
59:57
to pay for college by this damn truck. But that
1:00:03
it was harder for a woman and especially back
1:00:06
then in the early 2000s, there was so much misogyny
1:00:09
and so much like it just it was an uphill more
1:00:11
of an uphill battle. But when I did hit when
1:00:15
I did hit a sale, it was like knocking out of
1:00:18
the park home run because a lot of people had
1:00:20
a harder time grinding a female salesperson no
1:00:25
matter, no matter the age, not only because I
1:00:27
was like a kid, like there, I was like your son's
1:00:29
age, but just because I was a girl, I've seen
1:00:34
other women make big fewer sales, but bigger
1:00:38
sales. Right because people felt bad grinding
1:00:42
a woman people felt embarrassed grinding a woman
1:00:46
Younger men especially had a harder time like
1:00:50
or or middle -aged men that kind of I've seen
1:00:54
middle -aged men get in get in trouble with When
1:00:58
they're they're like I'm gonna come back before
1:01:00
I can pull the trigger God bring my wife And
1:01:02
they're like the deal was there the wife comes
1:01:04
and they're very not happy. So I've seen a lot
1:01:07
of that, too So that that was that was the early
1:01:11
2000s though. So things have changed. I think
1:01:14
I don't know I've been out of the business a
1:01:15
long time But I I certainly know that AI has
1:01:20
changed that business Maybe to the detriment
1:01:27
of the salesman maybe to the boon of the consumer
1:01:31
But there are actually fewer car salesmen. Everything's
1:01:35
automated now. You don't have to pick up the
1:01:36
phone. Everything's automated. The emails are
1:01:38
sent out. Whatever. You don't need as many customer
1:01:42
service people at the car dealership anymore.
1:01:44
So again, less jobs. That's the theme. Less jobs.
1:01:48
Well, also, there's fewer cars now, new and used.
1:01:51
So you don't need as many salespeople because
1:01:52
you all have as much inventory. That's true,
1:01:55
too. And people can't afford to buy anything.
1:02:00
That's all true, too. So that is um, that's your
1:02:03
jobs theme today for throwback Thursday So there
1:02:07
you go That'd be it. So happy Thursday everybody.
1:02:11
So fun Friday. Let's try to find fun stories
1:02:14
and then I'll see you guys after the show for
1:02:18
our Team chat. Oh, yeah, so we were hanging you
1:02:23
and I are hanging on Yes us us we are hanging
1:02:26
on but we're saying goodbye Hasta la vista to
1:02:29
the audience until manana Because we've got to
1:02:33
sort out. Thanks a lot rumble. They're they're
1:02:36
basically unemployed us too Because they become
1:02:40
an AI company Bye everybody. Thank you