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Trump's new strategy, claiming Hormuz for US & more · DEEP INSIGHT

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  Speaker 1: Well, we have things that we could sanction. We have
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  Speaker 1: very traconian sanctions, and we'll see what happens. Right now,
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  Speaker 1: the strait is open. We a lot of boats are
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  Speaker 1: coming through. People aren't reporting that, and that may slow
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  Speaker 1: down a little bit at some point, but right now
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  Speaker 1: a lot of boats are coming through. The naval blockade
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  Speaker 1: has been extremely effective zero I mean literally while it's up,
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  Speaker 1: and it's been for quite a while, you know, except
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  Speaker 1: for a couple of little pauses where we opened it
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  Speaker 1: purposely with a deal, but the deal didn't termine, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the deal didn't turn out to be what they said.
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  Speaker 1: You know, when they tell us one thing and they
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  Speaker 1: do another. But the blockade has been one hundred percent successful.
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  Speaker 1: No boats have gotten into Iran, but they are getting
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  Speaker 1: in for other places. But we'll see. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: see what happens. It'll either be extremely good and oil
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  Speaker 1: prices are going to drop like a rock, or will
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  Speaker 1: continue to do exactly what we're doing. You know, they
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  Speaker 1: were talking about three hundred and fifty dollars a barrel
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  Speaker 1: and it's today eighty four eighty five, and we are
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  Speaker 1: getting a lot of oil out. But the other thing
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  Speaker 1: that's happened is people have found other resident.
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  Speaker 2: TRUP addressing there. We did get a little term limit
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  Speaker 2: in there as well. Admilstavritez. We don't have talk about
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  Speaker 2: term limits, but when it comes to what is happening
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  Speaker 2: in Iran, right, we also have the UAE suspending at
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  Speaker 2: this point all trade with Iran. Iran's foreign minister has
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  Speaker 2: said that the US blockade had contributed to shortage some
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  Speaker 2: price increases. So there's some evidence right that this economic
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  Speaker 2: pressure is working and that sources TELCNN is really becoming
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  Speaker 2: the focus for the administration, not so much the military campaign.
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  Speaker 2: The question though, how long do you believe the hard
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  Speaker 2: line I ERGC can actually weigh out that pressure.
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  Speaker 3: Months but not years, and that's the good news for
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  Speaker 3: the administration. They'd love to get this over with in
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  Speaker 3: a matter of weeks, but that, unfortunately is not how
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  Speaker 3: sanctions work. It's not how blockades work, not how embargoes work.
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  Speaker 3: They take time to build economic pressure. But I think
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  Speaker 3: that is the President's best option at this point is patience.
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  Speaker 3: Keep the blockade in place, put economic pressure on Iran,
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  Speaker 3: get them back to the table that way, and force
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  Speaker 3: them to open this straight. It's a tale of two blockades.
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  Speaker 3: They're blockading the strait of our moves, we're blockading their coastline.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to have to wait them out if we
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  Speaker 3: want to get them back to the table. Months, months,
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  Speaker 3: but not years.
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  Speaker 2: Animal James Serveritez, always appreciate your insight.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, Thanks Erica.
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  Speaker 4: Joining US now Republican Congressman Don Bacon at Nebraska. He's
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  Speaker 4: a US Air Force combat veteran who retired as a
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  Speaker 4: brigadier general. Is now in the House representing Nebraska and
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  Speaker 4: on the House Armed Services Committee. Congressman Trump is essentially
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  Speaker 4: saying that now the strategy is giving around the old
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  Speaker 4: talk to the hand treatment. What do you make of this?
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  Speaker 4: Is this what you would advise him to do?
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  Speaker 5: I think this is a better strategy than what we
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  Speaker 5: have had. The blockade probably the easier thing for us
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  Speaker 5: to enforce. Right now, we've been able to choke almost
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  Speaker 5: all of the traffic going in and out of Iran.
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  Speaker 5: That's good. Their economy is really struggling. It's going to
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  Speaker 5: really weaken the regime. However, I would say that Iran
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  Speaker 5: had been fairly effective up until now, shutting off about
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  Speaker 5: ninety percent of the flow of traffic. But We're starting
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  Speaker 5: to see more traffic get in and out of there,
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  Speaker 5: and that's a good thing. The problem I think with
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  Speaker 5: the president early in this fight, he over promised it's
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  Speaker 5: gonna be a quick fight, and then he tried to
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  Speaker 5: go it alone without trying to bring in Democrats or
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  Speaker 5: trying to involve Congress. And you can't fight a war
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  Speaker 5: in a partisan manner. It's got to be a bipartisan fight,
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  Speaker 5: and he should have anticipated more of a longer term fight.
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  Speaker 5: And I really think this is handicapping him now because
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  Speaker 5: the Democrats do not want to work with the President
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  Speaker 5: on this, and this needs to be a bipartisan effort.
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  Speaker 5: After my folks, Iran has killed a thousand Americans. They
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  Speaker 5: were the leading export or terror. They had a thousand
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  Speaker 5: blistic muscles, they were trying to produce a nuclear weapon.
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  Speaker 5: Some action had to be taken, if not with this president,
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  Speaker 5: maybe previous presidents, but something this could not be allowed
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  Speaker 5: to continue like this. But I think the president is
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  Speaker 5: onto a strategy of blockade. I also recommend say us
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  Speaker 5: there's be fewer people talking on this because there's contradictory
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  Speaker 5: messages going out there. Speak softly but carry a big stick.
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  Speaker 4: So as I don't need to tell you, even though
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  Speaker 4: you're not running for reelection, the war is very unpopular.
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  Speaker 4: It is weighing heavily on whether or not many of
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  Speaker 4: your colleagues are going to be re elected in the fall.
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  Speaker 4: Barrett Marson is a Republican strategist in Arizona. He told
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  Speaker 4: cnnend quote, there is one person in this country who
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  Speaker 4: doesn't gas prices, just one, and unfortunately that one person
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  Speaker 4: kind of controls our fate.
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  Speaker 3: Quote.
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  Speaker 4: At some point, do you think Republicans are going to
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  Speaker 4: be forced to really distance themselves from Trump given how
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  Speaker 4: unpopular both he and the war and the ensuing high
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  Speaker 4: gas prices are.
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  Speaker 5: But there's some reasons why this war is unpopular. I'd
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  Speaker 5: like to address that first. First, he didn't try to
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  Speaker 5: bring Democrats on board at all, and you cannot fight
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  Speaker 5: a war in a partisan manner. You know, Ronald Reague
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  Speaker 5: would have Tip O'Neil over and they would and they
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  Speaker 5: would try to come up with a bipartisan thing. I
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  Speaker 5: do believe there would be Democrats would have been more
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  Speaker 5: supportive if the president made an effort. Because I Ran
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  Speaker 5: was the leading exporter of terror. They killed a thousand Americans,
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  Speaker 5: They had those deadly roadside bombs in Iraq. They killed
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  Speaker 5: over six hundred Americans, for example. So the case was there,
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  Speaker 5: but the President tried to go it alone, and then
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  Speaker 5: it was going to be a quick fight. We're gonna
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  Speaker 5: make a deal tomorrow, We're gonna make a deal next week.
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  Speaker 5: A deal's eminent. I think these things have undermined, are
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  Speaker 5: underminded as effort, but we have to go back. What
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  Speaker 5: do we need to do now? If we stop this now,
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  Speaker 5: I ran wins and Iran could still produce a nuclear weapon,
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  Speaker 5: maybe not as soon as they could have, but with
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  Speaker 5: China's or Russia's halt or North koreassault, they can rebuild
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  Speaker 5: this capability and they will still be the leading exporter
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  Speaker 5: of terrorists. I think the President has to keep this
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  Speaker 5: blockade on it, and I find the he's got it.
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  Speaker 5: In the end, he's got to prevail in this fight,
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  Speaker 5: because if he doesn't, we're going to have a worse
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  Speaker 5: threat on our hands down the road. But he's sort
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  Speaker 5: of put us at a spot where he's back into
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  Speaker 5: a corner with this being an unpopular war, and I
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  Speaker 5: just it goes back from the beginning he had this
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  Speaker 5: had to be a bipartisan effort, not a one man band.
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  Speaker 5: That's what it became.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me now Army Colonel Peterman's where he's a former
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  Speaker 2: age General David Petraeus and a professor of military history
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  Speaker 2: at Ohio State University. It's good to have you with us,
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  Speaker 2: so we look at where things stand. President Trump's inconsistency
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  Speaker 2: comes as Cutter is now voicing support for Oman's talks
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  Speaker 2: with Iran. This despite threats from President Trump to Bono
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  Speaker 2: Mom over Oman rather over the Hormuz dispute, and notably,
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  Speaker 2: those negotiations were a requirement of the MoU, which the
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  Speaker 2: President once hailed. Do these threats from Trump risk excluding
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  Speaker 2: the US from the shaping of any agree mist on
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  Speaker 2: the Strait?
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  Speaker 6: The threats are absolutely not helpful. Their typical Trump bluster.
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  Speaker 6: He doesn't like being excluded from these negotiations, and he
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  Speaker 6: doesn't know what Oman and Iran are agreeing to, and
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  Speaker 6: if it includes their control over the Strait of Hormus
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  Speaker 6: and the ability of Iran to exact tolls, He's not
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  Speaker 6: going to have any part of that. And thus he
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  Speaker 6: has struck out in the way he knows, with typical
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  Speaker 6: bluster and threats that probably will not be acted upon.
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  Speaker 2: In terms of bluster, he also posted this image. I
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  Speaker 2: think we can put it up for you of the
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  Speaker 2: Strait of Removes labeling it is new US territory. How
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  Speaker 2: much does that further complicate things?
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  Speaker 6: It doesn't complicate things at all. Everyone knows this is
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  Speaker 6: not true. I think it's pushback against Iran, which claims
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  Speaker 6: the Strait as its own territory, and he says, okay,
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  Speaker 6: can play that game. We'll claim it as well. In fact,
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  Speaker 6: it's an international waterway. I think all sides need to
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  Speaker 6: agree on that. But that's one of the problems with
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  Speaker 6: these negotiations. Iran wants to control the Strait until it
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  Speaker 6: agrees that it's an international waterway. I don't think we're
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  Speaker 6: going to come to any sort of diplomatic solution to
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  Speaker 6: this crisis.
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  Speaker 2: In the Oval Office yesterday, Trump reiterated his goal for
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  Speaker 2: this war was to keep Iran from having a nuclear weapon.
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  Speaker 2: In terms of what you see is the US military
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  Speaker 2: strategy right now doing anything to prevent Iran from having
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  Speaker 2: a nuclear weapon, Well.
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  Speaker 6: It's done quite a bit. I mean, it's hit the
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  Speaker 6: Iranian nuclear facilities, it's manufacturing plants. It is really set
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  Speaker 6: back its nuclear program. Ironically, I think negotiations on the
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  Speaker 6: nuclear program are probably easier at this point than negotiations
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  Speaker 6: on opening the strait. Iran has made it its goal
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  Speaker 6: and it's in life to control the Strait of our removed,
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  Speaker 6: which it views as its only leverage against the United
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  Speaker 6: States and our allies to prevent another attack on Iran.
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  Speaker 6: The nuclear program. The Iranian nuclear program isn't going anywhere quickly.
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  Speaker 6: We all know that they want to gain a nuclear
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  Speaker 6: weapon eventually, but that can be stymied in the future
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  Speaker 6: by further action.
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  Speaker 2: I also wanted to ask you about the Hufi so,
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  Speaker 2: a proxy of Iran right in Yemen now claiming an
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  Speaker 2: attack on a Saudi oil refinery. There have been clashes
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  Speaker 2: intensifying in the Battlemandeb straight. Are you concerned about a
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  Speaker 2: new front opening?
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  Speaker 6: Absolutely? I mean one of the ways that we were
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  Speaker 6: able to sort of ease the blockade of the Strait
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  Speaker 6: of Hormuz was to have Saudy pump oil to its
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  Speaker 6: terminal on the Red Sea and then move through the
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  Speaker 6: Strait of Babel Mundeb and get it to Asia. That's
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  Speaker 6: been closed down now and it has created a significant blockage.
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  Speaker 6: The only way to get that oil out now is
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  Speaker 6: through the sus Canal, which has also been hit by
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  Speaker 6: the hooties. So this is a problem and a very
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  Speaker 6: unwelcome development.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Colonel, always appreciate your perspective. Thank you.