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Fat Joe on beefing with 50 Cent & Jay-Z, Terror Squad TS sneaker release, Big Pun’s legacy, & Organized Rhyme · The Real Report with Tony Yayo and Uncle Murda

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  Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you something that's so disrespectful. Y'all,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, guys. Y'all want me to stop?
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  Speaker 2: Nah, go.
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  Speaker 1: Go. I ran my neighborhood so much that I would
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  Speaker 1: sleep at night with my windows open in the car
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  Speaker 1: and put my chains over the window when they used
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  Speaker 1: to rob Benzibon. Yo, yo, yo, when the crackheads would
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  Speaker 1: rob you, break your car for a Benz. Remember when
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  Speaker 1: you had the red stick? They had to say up
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  Speaker 1: the front of the car. You're not listening to me.
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  Speaker 1: You had the red stick. They would rob you for
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  Speaker 1: your Benz. I used to throw my jewelry some nights
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  Speaker 1: over my weird view and go upstairs and sleep. Come
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  Speaker 1: out tomorrow, my all lit. It was crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Windows down. Yo, I can't with this.
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  Speaker 1: Yo, I can't with this. He didn't get stabbed. All right,
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  Speaker 1: shut the fuck up.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Bru Yeah, it's the real report.
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  Speaker 3: It's your boy, Uncle Murder, aka Lil Jet Lennie.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's the talk of New York, and we
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  Speaker 2: have the living legend in here from the BX. Make
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  Speaker 2: some noise for Fat Joe.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Whoa. Whoa.
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  Speaker 1: You know the vibes. Yeah. Yeah, that's hot.
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  Speaker 3: That feel good.
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  Speaker 1: You know how that feel, right?
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: That feel good.
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  Speaker 2: What's up, y'all? And to everybody out there in the
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  Speaker 2: hip-hop land, you got to respect Fat Joe. Yes, we
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  Speaker 2: had beef with him. It was serious to me. A
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  Speaker 2: bunch of Spanish with knobs. running around the city, like
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  Speaker 2: Pistol Peak. It was crazy. Rest in peace to my man,
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  Speaker 2: DJ Rough Hands. He used to DJ on 160 in Queens,
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  Speaker 2: right on the block. We used to hustle. Whenever it's hot,
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  Speaker 2: he had the DJ equipment. That's what was introduced. That
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  Speaker 2: was my biggest introduction to music as far as going
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  Speaker 2: to Hot Wax on Jamaica Avenue. And he's getting every record.
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  Speaker 2: There's no CDJs. There's no nothing. It's just the two 1200s.
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  Speaker 2: And I remember the first album ever bought Like one
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  Speaker 2: of the first albums was Jealous One's Envy. Because I
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  Speaker 2: remember the beat was so hard. It was so hard
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  Speaker 2: that like all the DJs would cut it up. Because
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  Speaker 2: I was in every party in Queens. You know what
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying? Any party.
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  Speaker 1: You love hip hop. You was everywhere.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's how hip hop was really, well, you know, as
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  Speaker 2: a kid watching Video Music Box, of course. You know
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  Speaker 2: what I'm saying? And I always respect dudes like you
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  Speaker 2: and LL because we talking about... Three different eras of longevity,
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  Speaker 2: of success, of hit records. The 80s, the 90s, and now.
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  Speaker 2: So talk about Jealous One's Envy for people that don't know.
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  Speaker 2: That's a classic album. And I want to know, who
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  Speaker 2: produced Let It Flow, Joe?
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  Speaker 1: You doing both. So Diamond D put me on Digging
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  Speaker 1: in the Crates. Shout out to Diamond D.
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  Speaker 2: Shout out to Diamond D.
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  Speaker 1: He made the beat to Flow, Joe. We made it
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  Speaker 1: in his kitchen. He was like, yo, I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: play this for you. Kaboom, boom. Boom. I was there
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  Speaker 1: when he put the drums on that shit. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my God. Diamond D talked me out of being
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  Speaker 1: in the streets. He grabbed me one day and said, Joe, man,
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  Speaker 1: you like to rap, man. I'll pay for the beats,
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  Speaker 1: but out here, y'all doing too much. You're going to die.
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  Speaker 1: You're going to go to jail. Put it down in
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  Speaker 1: the music. I never forget the light pole in between
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  Speaker 1: my building and his building where he convinced me to
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  Speaker 1: make a demo. You know what I'm saying? So Diamond,
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  Speaker 1: he pretty much did my whole first album, Digging in
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  Speaker 1: the Crase, Lord Finesse, Big L, O.C., Oh, Buckwild, AG,
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  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ.
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  Speaker 2: Showbiz and AG, shout to them too.
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  Speaker 1: Showbiz and AG, like, you know, that was home team.
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  Speaker 1: And they were the first to inspire me to let
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  Speaker 1: me know I could rap. Because Finesse used to tell
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  Speaker 1: me all the time, yo, Joe, I'm going to be
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  Speaker 1: a rapper. I'd be like, I'm out here selling drugs.
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  Speaker 1: And one day I listened to Red Alert. That motherfucker
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  Speaker 1: played three Finesse joints back to back. I was like...
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  Speaker 1: And it changed my life. So me, I never dealt
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  Speaker 1: with like jealousy. I always dealt with inspiration. So I
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  Speaker 1: looked at his inspiration. I said, if he could do it,
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  Speaker 1: I could do it. Because I already knew, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to do whatever it take to do it.
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  Speaker 1: It was guys a hundred times nicer than me in
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  Speaker 1: my project. And they got mad at me when I
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  Speaker 1: got on. But they didn't want it like me. You
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? They didn't want to go down
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  Speaker 1: to where it was at. I went, you know, I Nowadays,
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  Speaker 1: they really saying, watch what you say, but this is
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  Speaker 1: over 37 years ago. We sold real drugs. Not regular drugs.
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  Speaker 2: Real drugs.
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  Speaker 1: Big time. We own 47 cars at one time. Benz's, Beamer's, Pathfinder's, this, this. Nobody,
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  Speaker 1: any old school nigga you know from the Bronx or Harlem,
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  Speaker 1: they not going to lie to you. They going to
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  Speaker 1: tell you, yo. The nigga was coming down in a
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  Speaker 1: white McLaren, all white out, in your fat Joe, no
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  Speaker 1: shirt on, jewels on. They popped so many bots, so
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  Speaker 1: we really did this shit. And then, so I already knew,
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  Speaker 1: when I told niggas, I was embarrassed at first. I
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  Speaker 1: told niggas, yo, I'm going to Apollo Theater, I want
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  Speaker 1: to rap. I'm telling kingpin niggas. I don't talk, I'm
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  Speaker 1: dealing with kingpins. They all respect me as.
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  Speaker 3: A- And they looking at you like, get the fuck
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  Speaker 3: out of here with that rap shit.
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  Speaker 1: Man, all them niggas wound up doing 30 years, man.
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  Speaker 1: They all came home. It was like, yo, Joe, we sorry.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't know you were serious about it, this and
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  Speaker 1: this and that. I was like, yo, man, they all
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  Speaker 1: laughed in my face. But guess what? I came out
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  Speaker 1: of an Apollo theater and I stepped out. I tried
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  Speaker 1: to think about it. Like, how did I win?
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  Speaker 2: You scared? Nah, I'm scared. Nah, I'm just saying, the
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  Speaker 2: first time, Apollo Theater. Yo, so Apollo is one of
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  Speaker 2: them shows like- I won the Apollo four nights in
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  Speaker 2: a row. Four weeks in.
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  Speaker 1: A row, I came in first place. The whole place
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  Speaker 1: just went crazy. They couldn't even understand one of my raps.
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  Speaker 1: They was just going nuts. Like, you know what I'm saying? So,
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  Speaker 1: and that's how I met Red Alert. And that's how
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  Speaker 1: I got on and started playing my promo. And then
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  Speaker 1: I got to deal with Chris Lighty. Chris Lighty comes
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  Speaker 1: to my spot. Chris Lighty.
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  Speaker 2: But what year was Jealous One's Envy? Was it 19?
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  Speaker 1: Jealous One's Envy was after, that's the second album. The
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  Speaker 1: first album where Flojo was on was Represent. That was
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  Speaker 1: in 92. And then Jealous One's Envy is my second album.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: And that album, I had to step it up because
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  Speaker 1: I'm over there doing Flojo, bust it, check it, watch
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  Speaker 1: how I wreck it. And them motherfucking Illmatic boys realizing
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  Speaker 1: the realism of life. I thought it was over.
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  Speaker 2: I was ready to throw the towel in.
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  Speaker 1: I said, oh my God, as much as I love this,
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  Speaker 1: my favorite album of all time, well, one of them.
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  Speaker 1: When I heard that, I was scared to death. I
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  Speaker 1: had to lock myself in the dungeon and study and
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  Speaker 1: just step my lyrics up and all that. That shit
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  Speaker 1: wasn't easy, man. Summertime, when everybody was outside, I was
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  Speaker 1: in the fucking crib, listening, writing this, this, and then
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  Speaker 1: Jealous One's Envy's when I stepped my shit up. I
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  Speaker 1: seen Biggie, rest in peace, maybe like two, three days
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  Speaker 1: after that shit came out. And I seen him and
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  Speaker 1: he had a hundred people around. It was like, yo, crack.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I walked over there, he said, what
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  Speaker 1: we been pumping? He told Lil' Kim and Ceaser. They
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  Speaker 1: was like, yo, your new album. He was like, that
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  Speaker 1: shit is crazy.
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  Speaker 2: You stepped your shit up. See, this is why I
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  Speaker 2: love this show. Notorious B.I.G.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: He said, you stepped your shit up. We've been playing
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  Speaker 1: your shit all day.
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  Speaker 2: That was the album Jealous One's in.
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  Speaker 1: It's my favorite album ever.
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  Speaker 2: But Flojo, I ain't going to lie. I'm trying to
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  Speaker 2: remember the album was represent because I remember that one, though. Like,
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  Speaker 2: that's the one they was cutting up because Diamond D
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  Speaker 2: had a hard beat. So DJs was just cutting that
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  Speaker 2: shit up all day. Like I said, my man got.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Flojo went number one in the country, my first single.
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  Speaker 1: Went number one in the country, billboard rap singles. Went
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  Speaker 1: number one off rap.
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  Speaker 2: You feel like that was one of the best eras
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  Speaker 2: of hip hop, I think. When the DJs still had
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  Speaker 2: to bring crates.
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  Speaker 1: The only reason why it wasn't the best era of
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  Speaker 1: hip hop is because I was getting $ 500 a show.
• 8:36
  Speaker 1: Right now, you be a reggae tone nigga, and you
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  Speaker 1: drop one song that's $ 300, 000 a show. It was abuse.
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  Speaker 1: I was doing three shows a day, trying to get 1,500.
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  Speaker 1: I did from Boston to North Carolina, but I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they had a thing in Queens. They had a thing
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  Speaker 1: in Queens. It was a van rental. It was called Van-tastic,
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  Speaker 1: to where the back lays down, you could sleep. All
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  Speaker 1: the artists, before we had money for tour bus. We
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  Speaker 1: didn't have money for no tour bus, so people would
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  Speaker 1: rent the Van-tastic. and drive to Virginia, or fucking D.C.
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  Speaker 1: Shout out to Pistou and all them. They took care
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  Speaker 1: of me. D.C., the Cuban cigar. I mean, that whole
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  Speaker 1: East Coast right there. And that's also a regional... Problem
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  Speaker 1: for a lot of New York rappers and East Coast rappers,
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  Speaker 1: because a lot of them don't get past that North Carolina,
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  Speaker 1: from Boston to North Carolina. So when you put out
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  Speaker 1: a record that's playing in Arizona, some shit like that,
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  Speaker 1: you feel like, oh, shit.
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  Speaker 3: I've just seen you performing in Romania, so you ain't
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  Speaker 3: got that problem. 100,000 or some shit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you ain't got that problem. You good on that note.
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  Speaker 1: I'm good everywhere. Yeah, you good on that note. I'm
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  Speaker 1: good in Africa, Jamaica, wherever you name. I'm good.
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  Speaker 2: We already know that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, we bumped into y'all. I bumped into y'all.
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  Speaker 1: Where the fuck was that? Yugoslavia or something?
• 10:05
  Speaker 2: Where's the Germany we at? And that's how this whole.
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: Podcast actually came together. Rob Markman The.
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  Speaker 2: Thing about you, Joe, is I always want to know,
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  Speaker 2: what's your process in the studio? Because you work with
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  Speaker 2: some of the best producers in the world, Kool and Dre,
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  Speaker 2: which is the new album, and Scott and Storch, and
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  Speaker 2: you've been around Dr. Dre, and you're a legend in
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  Speaker 2: the game where everybody respects you from Slick Rick to
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  Speaker 2: Big Daddy Kane to 50 to... You know, everybody. Like,
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  Speaker 2: what is your process? Like, how did you navigate in
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  Speaker 2: the game? And you know, you're Spanish. Your dad is
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  Speaker 2: Cuban and black, and I believe your mom's is Puerto Rican.
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  Speaker 2: But he was the first Spanish guy in the game,
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  Speaker 2: coming in the game to make his name. And New
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  Speaker 2: York City is kind of big too. Because there is
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  Speaker 2: no other Spanish rapper, is there?
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  Speaker 1: I just think it's the way you look at it.
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  Speaker 1: It was other Spanish rappers. It was just... Man, they
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  Speaker 1: were Spanish rappers since the beginning of hip-hop. It was
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  Speaker 1: Ruby Dee, it was Tito from the Fearless Four, Whippy Whip.
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  Speaker 1: And then later on, in my era, the first Spanish
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  Speaker 1: dude to get hip-hopping was Curious George. And then... The
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  Speaker 1: Beat Nuts out of Queens. They were out just before me.
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  Speaker 1: I remember the Beat Nuts. John Wayne couldn't even feel
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  Speaker 1: the rain or the tech. I was in that video.
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  Speaker 1: And so they actually, the Beat Nuts, mixed my first
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  Speaker 1: album because I ran out of money.
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  Speaker 2: Shout out to the Beat Nuts. They legends, too.
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  Speaker 1: When I got money, and of course, Cypress Hill.
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  Speaker 3: They Dominican.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, they Dominican.
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  Speaker 1: Dominican and Colombian. Psycho Less is Colombian.
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  Speaker 3: But....
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  Speaker 1: I ran out of money because my moms had caught
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: cancer and she was fighting cancer. And so I had
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: to pay for like a registered nurse. In them times,
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  Speaker 1: it was like $ 2, 000 a night. $ 2, 000 a night in
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  Speaker 1: them times was a big.
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  Speaker 2: So.
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  Speaker 1: I ran out of money. And the Beatnuts came and
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  Speaker 1: mixed my old album. I owe them everything. Every time
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  Speaker 1: I see them, I keep saying, yo, whatever y'all want.
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  Speaker 2: Shout out to the Beatnuts, man.
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  Speaker 3: That's real.
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  Speaker 1: My brother Juju. Juju also a super real nigga.
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  Speaker 2: Like, real.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I just told you, it's hard to find
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  Speaker 1: real guys in hip-hop. Like, real niggas. Like, one time
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  Speaker 1: I was about to get fucked up by 300 niggas,
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  Speaker 1: and Juju said, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me, and
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  Speaker 1: jumped in with me. Now it's four of us. Me,
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  Speaker 1: Big Pun, Juju, and the other guy. I said, oh
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  Speaker 1: my God, why did you come here? I don't even
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  Speaker 1: want you to. We can't win. We ain't got no wins.
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  Speaker 1: There's no wins. That's why I always loved you. Because
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  Speaker 1: I seen you stand by your people no matter what.
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  Speaker 1: And I said, man, this nigga's a love. Because T.S.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you never forget to turn the lights on. T.S.
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  Speaker 1: Is always, our brand is loyalty. Even when my niggas
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: is wrong. You know how many times Pistol Pete was wrong?
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: You know how many times Khaled was wrong? You know
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: how many times Remy is wrong? And I got to
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  Speaker 1: stand on that shit. Just like you. I could be
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  Speaker 1: the boss, but I'm still the nigga got to stand.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, damn.
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  Speaker 1: They said, what? I guess they're right. Whatever it is,
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  Speaker 1: we don't give a fuck. We standing on this shit.
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  Speaker 1: You guys are like, you know, so that's the brand
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  Speaker 1: of Terror Squad. We loyal to each other. We're going
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  Speaker 1: to stand there for each other. And that's what it's about. So,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I respect guys like that at that time,
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  Speaker 1: you know, who step up when you are at a
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  Speaker 1: great disadvantage. You know you're about to get your ass whooped.
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  Speaker 1: And they jump in like, yo, fuck that. We getting
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  Speaker 1: our ass whipped together. Those are rare ones.
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  Speaker 3: You ain't lying.
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  Speaker 2: You ain't lying.
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  Speaker 1: You got to keep them.
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  Speaker 3: Next to you. Because it's easy for a nigga to
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  Speaker 3: just back up.
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  Speaker 2: Joe, what's the thought process in this?
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  Speaker 3: I seen a lot of them back up. Oh, you
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  Speaker 3: better believe it. You better believe it.
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  Speaker 1: That same day that Juju walked in, I don't want
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: to tell you, all of our favorite rappers, tough guys,
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  Speaker 1: gangster rappers, they was out there, nigga. They act like
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  Speaker 1: they ain't see nothing. They was like- They act like
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  Speaker 1: they ain't see it. Walking away like- No, no. The greatest,
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: I want you to think of the greatest gangster rappers
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  Speaker 1: in New York's history. Besides y'all. Y'all wasn't out yet.
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  Speaker 1: All of them was out there. And they all was like,
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: I'm over here arguing with the whole entire West Coast.
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  Speaker 1: It's around the East Coast, West Coast. I'm in the
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: middle of the street. What's up? What we doing? And
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: Juju jumped in. But the rest of the hip hop?
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, man.
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: They was going to let me get torched out there.
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: Fat Joe Buckley.
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: And I told him, I turned around and looked at
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: all of them. I said, yo, New York, what's up?
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: Let's go, because they had us. There was probably like
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: 300 of them. But we the four in Voltron, we
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: had a good 50. Bags, we could have been all right.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: No, let's go.
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: Not 50 against three. You know, you got 50. We're
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: still going to lose, but we're going to make some work.
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: Yo, Joe, keep it real. When you tell a story,
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: say it. What do you want me to do, lie
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: to you?
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: I'm at some shit. I'm at a how can I
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: be down or something.
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: Hold on.
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: When you tell a story, nah, because people will think
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: you capping, right? Like how you robbed the whole school.
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: but I'ma talk about like, he'll be like a crazy number.
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: I'm in the process of getting the proof to Marvin Jones.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: Nobody tried to get up at that school, man.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: What do you want me to say? No, what I'm
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: saying is, see, this is what I'm talking about. They
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: be thinking, hold on.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: My realest beef was with Fat Joe. Now he's like, yo, Joe,
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you the truth. Joe, Joe, Joe. Joe would tell.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: A story like at the beginning, instead of saying like
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: 10 cars, you'd be like, 47 cars. No, we on
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: 47 cars. Five car garage. Five floors.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: Got you. Got you.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: Some people, when they tell a story, people would think
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: it's cap. Like, all right, Joe, you went to school
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: in the Bronx. Now, the Bronx is the toughest borough
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: in New York City. One of the toughest places to
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: live from back in the days to now. You know
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying?
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: You mean to tell me you robbed your whole school
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: and ain't.
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: Nobody- You trying to say because there's other tough niggas
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: in the Bronx too, right?
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: I need people from your school to tell you how
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: worse it gets.
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: What?
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: Well, you ain't never hear them say they didn't get robbed.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: They got robbed.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: Somebody's going to come up here and tell you.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: Where they at? He ain't lying. Where they at?
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: The whole gym. Nobody said no.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: I'm in the process of getting proof.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: I want the proof.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: No, no.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: Certified proof of that. I figured out a way. There
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: wasn't no cameras back there, Joe.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: I'm about to.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Get y'all the proof. Just relax. I don't want to
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: tell people what I'm up to.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: You robbed your whole gym, murder. In the Bronx.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: I never robbed.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: I robbed a lot of people before, but I never
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: robbed the whole gym.
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: Can I say something? Huh?
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: It was just beyond, all right. So I'm in junior
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: high school.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: I grew up in the projects. I just wanted to,
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: I don't, but this just, I don't know. Y'all heard
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: this story a million times. My mother and my uncles
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: lived in that project for 40 years. The project was 90% black.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: This is where I'm birthed. This is where they bring
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: me in the hospital. From the hospital, my first day,
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: this is where I'm at. I'm not in another community.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: I'm not from another land. This is where, this is my, see,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: it's the black community is the only community I know.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Later on, I got to get in roots with my
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Latino people, but I'm Latino, but I grew up anyway.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: My grandmother's from a 99.9% black community. Where to this day,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: no Spanish niggas got juice there.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: They not holding no type of weight over there.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: You ain't hear of Chico and his brother. None of them.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: Fat Joe about the only one that can still diddy-bop
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: through there on the strength of yo, that's Joe Crack.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: It's still like that.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Close shot. I mean, we know you for being the
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: first Spanish rapper in the game.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: So I'm over there getting my ass whooped every day.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: They beating the brakes off of me. 20 deep, jumping
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: me every day, every day, every day, getting my ass
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: whipped because I've never been pussy. So you can't come
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: to me and say, suck my dick, you pussy. I'm going.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Like I'm a numbskull. Like a dumb nigga that you would,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: I really was a dumb nigga. Like, would you just
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: bring me for the drama? Like, yo, call Joey.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: And that's what happened. Joe, you was the size of
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: a linebacker, man. What you want me to do? I'm
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: just telling you the truth. Of course they're going to
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: jump you. My people used to wake me up out
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: my sleep. You know, that's the worst thing you could
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: do is wake your man up.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: For what?
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Fight?
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: Anything.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Niggas, I ain't even thinking when you just waking a
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: nigga up.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: Yo, come on.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: It used to wake me up. Anyway, so I come
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: from getting bullied. And then I had it. I said, yo,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: I'm going to give it to everybody. Now, here's the
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: trick for you not to understand. I'm from Forest Project.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: You was getting bullied? You was like the size of
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: a rock?
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: I got beat up every day. I just told you.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Man, what's that kid movie?
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Can't beat 20 guys.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Yo, hold on. What's the movie?
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: I kept telling them, yeah, yo, I'm not pussy. Every
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: time they came up to me, I said, yo, I
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: don't know what y'all think. I'm not pussy.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know if y'all understand.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: All right. Beat me up. Let's fight. You know, nobody
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: ever punched me in the face and I ain't fighting.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Listen to what I'm saying. I finally say that summer
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: where I graduated junior high, I said, I'm giving it
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: to everybody. I really don't care. So I start robbing.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: everybody in the jams, this, this, that. You start hearing
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: about Joey Crack, Terror Squad. The problem is with my school,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: for you to get to understand, from Forest Projects, across
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: the street, this is what people don't hear in this story,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: across the street was Morris High School. Morris High School
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: is the last stop. Morris High School I'm talking about.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: My projects is across the street from there. In that project,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: if you Jamaican, Dominican, Puerto Rican, uptown, left town, this town.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: That's the last stop before you go to Rikers Island.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: I'm sure Queens got a school like that where all
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: the pieces of shits go. I'm keeping it real. I
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: don't know if Morris is a good school now, but
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: when I was there, it was where every piece of shit,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: drug dealer, kingpin, whatever.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: All the bad kids was there.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: I'm across the street. I got a hundred niggas with me.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know how to explain it to you. So
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: first day of school, when you in the homeroom, you
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: dip fresh, you ready to go in, you a tough guy.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: There was tough guys from all over there. And the
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: first time you ever seen Fat Joe was a Spanish
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: nigga turned in a corner with like a hundred black dudes.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: And you like, where did this happen? Like, how does
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: this happen? And we got it popping. First day of school,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: started beating niggas up, robbing niggas. First day of school,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: the first time the Bronx, Uptown, Crosstown, this, the 5%,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck who it was. The first
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: time you laid eyes on them, he was putting in
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: that work. And every day after that, we was just...
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Being very abusive. Because I got bullied and I was
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: in circumstance of becoming hurt people, hurt people. So I
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: start hurting dudes. What you don't understand about the school
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: is everybody I robbed in there knew I had a
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: hundred niggas outside. I am the leader.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because your project's right across the street.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: You had a reputation already. They know. So one day
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: I'm bored to death. Like just bored out of... You
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: know how many.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Robbed the whole gym.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: I'm with him.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Man, my projects would have a party and there's a
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: thousand people in the party and I would just take
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: the equipment and break the shit and say, party over. Niggas, oh, crack, why? Yo,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: it's over, nigga. Party's over. Done deal.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Why would you do that?
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: I was bad.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: Because he was.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: The size of a linebacker at that point.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: I was bad.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: So what I'm trying to tell you is that when
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: I told everybody I was bored to death, And I'm
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: looking at the gym class and I'm just like, all right,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: fuck it, I'm robbing everybody. Yo, help me with your stuff.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: So you had a bag? Nah, I couldn't even carry
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: the shit. How about I'm too fat to wear it?
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Everybody I robbed. What was you putting the shit in?
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Everybody in my life I was robbing at that age,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: I had to give it to you? Yo, Tony, I
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: was robbing niggas for no reason. They got a leather
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: bomb with this, and then I give it to my man,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: because I can't even fit it. I told the legendary story,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know where, but I robbed this one day,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: a fat kid came. He had the chocolate Sherlin on.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Fat kid. He came to school. Run that ASAP, papa.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: He was like, huh? I was like, take this shit
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: off now, right? I got the truck and I was
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: a bum. I'm a young kid. I'm a bum. I'm
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: talking about a bum. And so I got the chocolate, Shirley, man.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: I go back home. I finally got the first fly
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: shit I ever had in my life. Now, all you
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: hear is like about, I got on three o'clock about
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: four o'clock and you just hear a car go. Another one, er,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: another one, er, another one, er, another one, er, another one, er.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: It was like 10 er's in a row, right? I
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: look out the window. My man Opie says, yo crack,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: come down. And bring the Sherlin.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: I said, holy.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Shit. That's crazy. But you know, Opie saved my life three,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: four times. I come down with the Sherlin. And then
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: the guy was, I don't even want to say his
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: name because lately they've been doing like documentaries about him.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: He's beyond, he was way older than me or whatever.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: He said, yo, from now on, you looking, he's Sunby. Like,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: you know, from now on, you looking out for my brother.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: I said, no problem. Little niggas start coming to school,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: smirking at me and acting like I was pussy and
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: all that. Like, he was walking in there and nobody
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: bothered him. I was out of my league. I was 13,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: 14 years old. It was the only time I caught
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: something that fit. And they had to give it back.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: His family was a somebody. That's how it was.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Not even somebody. Like, the somebody. Them niggas was Kingpin.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: I'm a kid.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: I'm 14.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: That's why you heard the.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: All them cars kept coming like, what?
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Yo, bring the shirling.
• 25:05
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• 25:06
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• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Fat Joe, not a gangster. He scared to fly. I
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: was terrified. I'm used to when he was scared.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: That was a good shot, though.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Yo, I'm still scared. It was a good shot. That
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: was a good shot. Yo, I'm scared. You still be
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: scared of that shit? I'm still scared. I'm still scared.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: I never knew that.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: I flew yesterday, scared to death. So let me tell
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: you a story that happened to me yesterday. I'm in St.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Louis.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: The plane. So I got to do Jay-Z's documentary, which
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: is stupid dope. You're going to love it. And then-
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Bryson Tiller brought me out in Madison Square Garden. It's
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: his show, so I had to get back to the town.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: I'm seeing Lewis, and the fucking plane breaks down. It
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: was about to take off. Thank God they come back.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: stay outside the plane, you go back on, 25 minutes later,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: pulls off some other shit. Yo, you know, and they
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: telling you this is an old plane, you know, sometimes
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: this happens, goes back, shit happened three times, shit is
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: like 2.30. We been there since eight o'clock in the morning.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: So I tell my, what you call it, travel agent,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, Joanna, get me on anything. So she says,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: only one flight available to get, lands in New York
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: at 4.30, Jay-Z shit was at six, She said, but
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: it's only two coach tickets. I said, give me the kick.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Give me, I'm going coach.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: I'm going coach.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: We run through the whole terminal. I walk in the plane.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: This is the first time I've been in coach one
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: time in my life. I actually pray. It's one of
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: my prayers. Like God, you know, forgive me. Pray for, no, no.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: I pray for first class. <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL>.
• 28:23
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• 28:28
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• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I do not want to be coached. The one time
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I sat coach, it was that Beverly Hillbillies. Little kids
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: was climbing on my shoulder and shit, throwing potato chips,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: smacking me. I'm trying to get a little fake sleep.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: The potato chips was like, oh, sorry, sir. He's just
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: kicking the back of the chair. I said, please.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Me and Murda always stunt when that's time. First class passengers,
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: we the only two niggas. Excuse me. Excuse me. We
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: up there watching TV.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Sometimes they get mad when you up there.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: They do.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: People get tight.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: They do.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: They be tight when you can see.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: I would be tight too. You got your soda already.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: I ain't even talking. I'm just talking about other people.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I'm just talking about the basketball nigga going to coach.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: I feel so bad for him. Sean Livingston. You know
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: I told you he's from the Golden State.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: For me, it's very certain of you. It could have
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: been a situation like that. Joe, he got money. Okay, copy.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: Copy.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: I'm doing like the walk of shame. You know how you-
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: You gotta walk to coach. You fuck a bitch in
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: the hotel, she gotta walk out in the morning, walk
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: of shame. I'm walking through like, Busta Rhymes is sitting
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: first class. Now I'm like, the only time I ever
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: been coaching my life, Buss sees me on, this is
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: out of control. I cannot make that up.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: This is a humble.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Walk like you never seen. As I'm walking to the coach,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: DJ Scratchator gets up. He says, yo, Crack, what's up?
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: He's first class.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: He said, what happened?
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: I said, it's a long story, man. I got to
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: get to New York. I'm sitting back there. He said,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: you can't sit back there. I said, I got to
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: sit back there. I got to get to New York.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: He was like, you have to take my seat. I said, yo, Scratch,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to fight with him. I said, Scratch.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: He was like, the Don don't sit in the back.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: You got to take my seat.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Look at that.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Shout out to Scratchito. That's real shit.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: Look at the prayers was answered, man. The prayers.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: God is good. Yo, God.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: Yo, guys.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: When I tell you. You know why?
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: Nah, because God makes you think. How did the story
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: come out of Fat Joe not being in coach? Because
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: I was just saying, them pictures would have been online.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: The man just said, yo, Joe, you and Lear, Jets,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: you and Romania, you over here. Bro. I feel like
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: God was like, yo, he got to be humble for
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: a second. I don't know what it was. And then, man,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: he said, here you go. I couldn't fucking believe it.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: I sat down in the chair like.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: You know, look.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: You got to think about this. Scratch A Tore Buster
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: was up there.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Look.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Scratch A Tore Buster was up there. I prayed for
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: first class. I'm humble.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: I prayed for first class. I'm a four chicken wing
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: french fry nigga.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: I'm good.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: I don't need Mr. Chow and all that all day.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: I'm too good. But like....
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: But that coach, like I said, I got my soda already.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Busta done had his soda scratcher toy.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: They had their sodas already. They got their TV off.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Busta looked at me and said, yo, he's a great guy.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: He's a great guy. So I owe him. I don't
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: even know how to explain it to you. I got
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: to call Busta after this because I've been busy all
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: day and ask him, what does scratch love? Whatever he loves,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: I gotta get it to him. I gotta get it
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: to him. I gotta get it to him. I gotta
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: get it to him. Got to look out for him.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Whatever he loves. Now, Joe, I want to talk about
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: the business side of Fat Joe. Meaning, like, 50s, like,
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: had his own brand, Jay-Z, you.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: 50 Cent don't get celebrated enough. And I'm not just
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: saying that for y'all. I'm saying that anywhere I go. Right.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: You know, because when I was a kid, there was
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: a guy named Aaron Spelling.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Aaron Spelling was making shows. I don't know what it was.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Don't quote me, guys, but say Three's Company, whatever. And
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: when that man got married, they would have helicopters over
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: his house. Like, it was a big deal. Like, when
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: you bought the tabloids, Aaron Spelling was at 50 Cent,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: the new Aaron Spelling.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Facts.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: He got shows all over.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: All over.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Y'all can.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: What's wrong with society today, 2026, is they act like
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: this is regular shit. Like, dudes is like, this is
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: regular shit. Like, oh, okay. I could do that if
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: I wanted to. Yeah, yeah. No big deal. This is
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: a big deal what's going on out here.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Men come from the streets. From nothing, now he's- 13,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: 14 years going on now. I can't tell you. Consistent.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: But when I say the business side, right?
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: You took off as an artist. In classic eras of
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: hip hop, everybody respects you from the OGs to the
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: game to the new guys in the game. But when
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: we fast forward to Terror Squad, you got Kool and Dre.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: You got Pun. Pun was another heavy hitter from the Bronx.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: He's legendary. He's in the top 10, top five kind
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: of categories. of lyrics, you and him. How did the
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: pun situation come in? What made you want to even
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: do Terror Squad? Like, how'd you think of the name?
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: I've always been a boss. I've been, since I've been 14,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: I've been paying for dinner for 20 guys. Sounds like Cap.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: What do y'all want me to do?
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying, since I was 14, what you
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: want me to do?
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Since I've been 14, I've been paying for dinner. I've
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: been a boss my whole life. My whole life. You
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: know what my main job was? Like when my brother
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: and them got indicted, if I ain't changed to rap
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: and I was in the indictment, I used to bail
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: niggas out. I bailed a nigga out yesterday for 30 grand.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: I'm not lying to you.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: That's what I do. Crackheads, real niggas. They knew El
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Gordo was back there. You out. You got a lawyer.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: You got bailed. This is when you could pay cash
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: under any name. Yo, John Wilkinson. You know you ain't
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: coming back for the bail money.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: Right? So.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: I always been that type of guy. I always been
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: the boss. So when I came in the game, they
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: was talking with slick words, but I always knew as
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: soon as I figured out what they was talking about,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I could do this. I want
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: to be a boss.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: How did you pick the artists? Because come on, you
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: got Big Pun, you got Remy, you got Tony Sunshine,
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: you got the producers Kool and Dre.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: People think my best attribute is picking beats, which I'm
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: really good at.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: I agree with that.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: But that's a fact, because this new album, not to
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: cut you off, but the new album, the beat selection.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: I've seen you rocking today. Of course. Of course.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: Beat selection.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Organized rhyme, baby.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: I pick out the beats, organized rhyme. I'm a good
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: beat picker, but I'm more of a person. How do
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: you see Fat Pun? How do you see Big Pun?
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how did you meet Pun?
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: And you're like, I'm going to make this nigga a star.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Pun was from Forrest, too, or no?
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: No, he was from the other side. He was from Soundview.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Oh, Selby's side, Shelton. Yeah, yeah, Shelton Selby. Free my
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: man CB, man.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: You know, he was from over there. And so when
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: I come out the bodega, he's rapping. The point is
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: I pick talent. Whether it's Randy, whether it's Pun, whether
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: it's Kool and Dre, whether it's Khaled, whether it's like,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: you know, I picked talent. I could see somebody being
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: a star, no matter how your gear is. That's hard.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Well, how'd you meet Pun? You was on the block
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: in Forest? I was coming out the boat there.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: I was in Forest. I was closing up Jealous One's Envy.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: And it was my last day of studio to finish
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: the album. Shout out to Elias, Domingo, everybody who played
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: a part of that. And I come out the bodega
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: with a Diet Pepsi and they freestyle it. And the
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: fat niggas say, yo, let me go. Let me go, twin.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: And I believe Pundit invented the word twin.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: He was.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: They called you twin back then?
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: No, no.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: He told his mans twin.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: You know the fuck, niggas. You know what I'm saying?
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: So he was like, yo, twin, chill.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: And so he started going, what the fuck he was saying?
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: He rapping like that. Snatched the moon out the sky.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: I know you was like. And blow the sun away.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Me and my niggas playing hardball. Just like that. Oh,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: I opened the door. I got the LS 400 Lexus,
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: the big body shit. Please, please come in the car.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: The man sit in the car. All his friends are
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: looking depressed because they made a fake group around him.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: They knew he was dead nice. They knew he was like-
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: They made a fake group around him. Yeah, he just
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: said he's a top five, top 10. They knew they
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: had that. Got you. They knew that nigga was smacking nice.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: Got you.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying? And they see him get
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: in your.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: Car, they were like, ah, shit.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: And then the thing, and this is what you- One day,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: the best rappers at the time was Coogee Rap, then
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: he handed it over to Nas.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: I purposely took pun to rap for Coogee Rap and Nas.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: And with the most respect, when I seen them bobblehead,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: they were like- I said, oh my God, I got him.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: I got him. And then, you know what Coogee Raps say?
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Word him up.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Word him up. No!
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: If Coogee Raps say, word him up. No, Coogee Raps says,
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: word him up. Word him up. Nas is like, I said,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: holy shit, I got him. And I seen what Puff
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: did with Biggie. You know, Biggie, my man, before you.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: Ever blew up.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: I was just going to say that. I was going
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: to say Pun was like a Spanish Biggie.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: He wasn't like, he would have told you if he
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: was here, we was making him the Spanish Biggie.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: Look at that.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: That's what it felt.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: Look at that.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Because when he had records like, I don't want to
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: be a player no more. I ain't a player. I
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: just crush a lot. He didn't want to do shit
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Now look, think about it.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: He didn't want to do that?
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. He had records that was not
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: only just for the streets. They was playing in the
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: clubs too. He had hit records.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Bro, I used to fight with him to make a
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: record like that. He wanted to battle everybody. He wanted
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: to be an underground rapper. He didn't want to do it.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: And you know what's crazy? What I loved about you
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: and I liked about you was it felt like when
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: Lil Wayne passed the torch to Drake, it felt like
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: you did that with Punn first. Because I remember you
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: being in the video. Punn was the hottest nigga. And
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: you holding the umbrella. Like you holding the umbrella and
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: Punn is rhyming and y'all on some mafia shit.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: You gave him that look. Like, yeah, this the guy
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: right here.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: T.S.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: The brand name.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: His loyalty.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: When the man was alive, we treated him like a king,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: even to his death.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Rob Markman Because when Capital Punishment came out, definitely another
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: classic in hip hop. I think it's a sleeper and
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: I think Pun Time came early like Biggs. He passed
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: away so early, rest in peace to him. But you
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: was like, there's some guys that are good at picking artists.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Pun was the I'm always be like, yo, Pun was
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: still alive. We're with the Terrence Pratt brand. It's there
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: because you definitely had Remy. You had Tony Sunshine. You
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: had Kool and Dre. You had Khaled. Khaled is, you know,
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: he's fucking doing all kinds of Domino's commercials and Peacock
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: and all that, right? So look- So I'm looking at
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: it like, damn, imagine if Punn had a longer run
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: because when Capital Punishment came, I remember him dissing 50
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: and we in the crib listening to that whole album.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: Because this nigga was like, ran into Little Italy. It
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: was just like, yo, this nigga's like a fucking machine.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: He's a big nigga. You know, he's beating niggas up because,
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: you know, I know he roughed up Who Kid a
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: little bit back.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: They kidnap Who Kid, man.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Who Kid threw.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Who Kid in the van. We can talk about it now.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Set out the pun. No, no, he ain't talking. Set
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: out the pun. Who Kid don't.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Give a fuck. I know you found pun, but what
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: was it like when you were in the studio and
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: you're hearing this verse on Capital Punishment?
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: I was picking beats and all that. You said Fat
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Joe picked beats. I was picking beats. I made him
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: do deep cover. I'm the one who picked the beat
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: deep cover. I'm the one who told him to do
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: dead in the middle of the loop. He used to
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: say that like a joke. He used to also go
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: pack in the back of the back of the act,
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: pack in the back of the back of the... This nigga,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: he was so talented.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yo.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: That's why Fat Joe don't dare say I'm on his level.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: All these years later, I'm still not on his level.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: I be lying to you. He's a genius. He's a Eminem.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: He's a Jay-Z. He's a Nas. He's one of them.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: He got balls.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: And so the man... The man, you know, I was like, yo,
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: you need to say that shit. You be playing around
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: with it. The cop, what? I said, dead in the middle.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: He got fucked out of here. I'm not saying, I'm saying,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you. Dead in the middle of the little Italy, little,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, you'll kill him. He ain't want to do it.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: He got on there.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: He said, dead in the middle.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: That shit was over. I remember one time when Capital
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Punishment came out, we did the Apollo. And it was
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: a full house. And we wore matching furs. And we're
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: very generous to each other. So I bought him a fur.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: He bought me a fur. We were so hype. And
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: every time we came out, we came out the deep cover.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: He go, dead in the middle of it.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: And the crowd would just go crazy.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: They try to die. They try to commit suicide in
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: the crowd. Like, dead in the middle.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: Ah!
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: They climbing up walls, jumping up and down shit. And
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: then we did it six times in a row, same play.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: He just kept, shit was.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: Out of control.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because you got to think about it. There was
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: only a couple of fat dudes that was really fly.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: And you and.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Punt and Biggie. I dressed Big Punt. Big Punt ain't
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: dressed like that. I put the Versace on him.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: I put the fly shit.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: I put the disc. No, he picked up fast.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: All right, copy.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, he picked up fast. But I put the swag
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: on him.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Because when you think about the game, right, we got it.
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: Now, when you think about it.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you something.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: You know what I made off of Big Pun?
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: What?
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: I made $ 100, 000. I can honestly tell you I made $ 100, 000.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: It was a check for $ 100, 000 from Big Pun.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: Here you go, Joe.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Congratulations. Here's $ 100, 000. He's with me. I'm like, yo, imagine
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: you do something and you make money. Like, I was like, yo, wow.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: It worked.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: The investment worked. He says, yo, twin, take me up
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: to Fordham Road. So I'm like, all right. I drive
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: him up to Fordham Road. I think I'm in the
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Benz or something. The man stops in front of the
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: jewelry store. And the man goes and says, yo, bro,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: you love me, twin? I said, I love you. He said, well,
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: do you love me, twin? I said, I love you.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: He said. I've been looking at that watch right there.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Can you buy me that watch? Shit was iced out. Rolex,
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: some crazy shit. I went inside. The fucking watch cost $ 105.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: I wind up having to pay $ 5, 000 from the $ 100, 000
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: I made. His guy was insane, bro. He didn't let
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: me make the $ 100, 000. I had to buy him the
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: watch and put in $ 5, 000.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: No, the guy was a legend.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Remy ain't too far behind. How did you sign Remy?
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: How did that whole thing come about?
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: Pun founder. Oh, pun founder.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: And she said, and I always wanted a girl rapper.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: They had Foxy, they had Kim.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: Of course, yeah, Fags.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: I don't think Eve was out yet. But Pum was like, yo,
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: I got a rapper, girl rapper. We went to the studio.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: I'll never forget. Raul got it on video. Rest in peace, Raul.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: And she freestyled. It had to feel like I was straight.
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: Bars, bars, bars.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: I shoot the air bubbles out your sneakers. I'm this, this.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: She was going crazy. And I was just like, oh,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: I got so jealous. I was like, Jesus Christ, this
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: nigga found a chick I've been looking for. Like he
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: got her, this, this, that. So she tells the story.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: It says I was ice grilling her the whole time
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: while she was rapping. She was like, oh no, that's fat, yo.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: You ain't feeling me. This, this, that. So when I
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: walk out, punk taps me. He says, yo, 20, she
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: our artist. I said, man, she's incredible pun. I can't
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: wait to work with her. Let's go this and this
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: and that. And then he passed away like maybe a
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: week later. No more than a month, maybe a month
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: later he passed away. And then she was like looking like,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: you know, crying at the funeral. And I was like,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: I got you. I told everybody at the funeral, LV,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: his DJ, everybody. Everybody that deserves something, I got you.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: And whoever didn't, well I just couldn't.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: Now Joe, let me talk about Remy, because Remy is
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: hands down one of the top five female MCs in
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: a certain era of hip hop. We got to give
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: it to her, right? Now, you got Papoose with these songs,
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: Jazzabelle saying, she didn't write her rhymes. And in my mind, no,
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: I'm just asking. She had hits before she met Papoose.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: She was on Andy Up. She was on records with Punch.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: She was on records with you before she even met Papoose.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: Her daughter's my goddaughter.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: I make it a habit of not getting involved between
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: them because I can't have no problem with my goddaughter.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: I love her too much. And I don't want her
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: father and me to be going at it like that.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: So I try my best to mind my business. Personally,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Fat Joe has never seen nobody right with me. to
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: this day.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: Got you.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: She just did 10 songs this week. She's barred up
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: this week.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: Right, right, right.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: So I don't know what to tell you. And to
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: speak on that a little bit, they styles is totally different.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: If you like, it don't sound similar.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: No, Murda, I don't want to go into it.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: No, but it's just similar styles. All I can say
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: is this. All I can say is unfortunate.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: Different.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: However their situation is, I love... My goddaughter, I have
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: four pictures of my goddaughter in my room where I
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: sleep every night. She's all over the room, more than anybody.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: More than my own kids. I bring her to the room.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: I say, you see? She say, yeah. Pop, pop. Maybe
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: you should put another one. Give me five. No, she
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: run the shit. My goddaughter, Kenzie, she run my house.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: She come up in there, it's whatever. She knows it.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: She brings her cousins. Pop-pop said we do whatever we want.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: We in the pool. They just diving in the shit.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: They don't give a fuck.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's like when you got Pun and you
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: got Remy, it's like, oh, this motherfucker's two for two
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: with all this. You know what I'm saying?
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: Remy was the nicest chick, all right, that I had
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: ever heard at that time. And, you know, I always
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: say I can't lie for Remy. You know, my favorite
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: female MC has always been Lauryn Hill. Like, I can't lie. Like,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: Lauryn is... Lauren's better than guys, she better than me.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: So it's like, but Remy for what she do, nobody
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: can fuck with her. And if she get on your beats,
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: you know what, you is in trouble. Like if you
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: throw a bounce on there, Remy will take that bounce
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: and go so crazy on that shit. I mean, just
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: so for Remy verse.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: On Annie Up, it's like, It's just classic hip-hop. That
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: one verse right there, alone is like- Rob Markman.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, Remy's whole thing in life, everything, when
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: she comes in, she's got her presence.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: Rob Markman That was early Remy, when she did Annie Up.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: This is before Lean Back and all the other stuff.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying, songs like that, the thing I like
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: about Joe and Terra Squad, what makes them classic in hip-hop,
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: because it wasn't microwave music. He's still touring. Remy can
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: still tour. it's classic hip hop. You know what I'm saying?
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: Tribe Called Quest, Fat Rimp, Do You Know Terror Squad,
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: all this classic hip-hop.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: I just told you I've been getting money since I'm 14, yeah, yo.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to stop. That's all I do. That's
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: all I know how to do. It's like Pac-Man, the
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: nigga keep gobbling. That's all I know.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: So where Tony Sunshine comes in? I don't even stop.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: It's going everywhere. Like, I won't stop. I just, the
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: plane broke down. You see what's on our feet, right?
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: You see what's on our feet, nigga?
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: Terrasquad's out now. Terrasquad's out now.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: You see what's on our feet? He imitated. You see
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: what's going on, man?
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: Yo, and I need some G-units.
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: Oh, no.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: You put the size.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: No, size 12 G-units.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: We got you.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: I spoke to Fifth about it. I actually told you
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: it was coming into your murder. They really sold out.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: Because right now, the Terrasquad's on these size 12.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: We got you coming. We got you coming. We already know.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about the sneakers because G-units sold out.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: And it's so crazy. Terror squads are sold out.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: Terror squads are sold out. Let's talk about the sneaker journey.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: How ill it is. I like the sneakers. First of all,
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: I'm a rapper first. Somebody just asked me in the street.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: They said, yo, what are you? Because you're an entrepreneur.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: You this, you that. You podcast. I said, bro, I'm
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: a rapper. I'm an MC first. That's what I do. Now,
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: more important than music, is making a pair of sneakers
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: with TS on it. I've been to Terror Squad since
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: I'm 12, and seeing lines of people buying this shit, oh,
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: that's the most, It's the most gratifying feeling in the world.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Like you look at somebody with the TS's on and
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: all that, you feel like, wow, I actually want to
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: interview them. Like, ma'am, why are you buying these sneakers?
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: Are you a sneaker collector? Are you a reseller? Do
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: you fuck with us?
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: What?
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Like, it's an ill shit. When the last ones came out,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: the black ones, we sold 25,000 pairs in 10 minutes globally.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: We probably did the same shit right now. We sold
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: 5,000 pairs in my one store in the Bronx in
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: three days. Damn.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: Come on, y'all.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: Salute the fat Joe on that. Now, if a sneaker
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: come out, right, if we get a new drop, Jordan drop,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: and we sell 72 pairs of the sneaker, we doing
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: the kid and play dance, B. We like, yo, we
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: can't believe it. We sold 70 pairs, 5,000 pairs. Shit
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: out of control.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: Do you think the best ex-hustlers are the best entrepreneurs?
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: Of course.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: Because that's what it's looking like in New York City.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: Because you can't be a, you know, you can't be
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: a brokey, right? They used to say brokey. I know.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: That's what they call the broke dudes right now. Brokey. Brokey.
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: You don't want to be brokey. You don't want to
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: hear the female singing that loud.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: If you get money, I got my best friends been
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: in jail for 36 years. They'll be out in the
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: next three, four years. Right? I can guarantee you That
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: he'll come out here and own seven mechanic shops, 12
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: barber shops. He just a get money. He's not going
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: to stop. Maybe under some girl's name, 10 liquor stores.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you. I know that
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: he is not going to be a broke nigga. He just,
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: it's just some people allergic to it. You knew guys
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: like that. When I grew up, very, very young age
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: in Forrest Projects, we had a guy named Vance Romance.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: Vance Romance?
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: Vance Romance.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: That's how we take everybody's girl, man.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: Y'all, let me get the soda. Worse than that. Let
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: me get the soda. Vance Romance was from my building,
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: but he moved. Wasn't from Forest Projects. He was from
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: Forest Projects, but he moved. Only time we've seen him
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: was at Silk Shit with fucking Goyard bags at the time,
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: the Two bitches. Like, Vance Romance, I had never seen him.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: In my life.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: Not fly. I had never. He was Vance Romance. And
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: I was still a little kid. Maybe later he realized
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: I'm Fat Joe. Because I really, I was just, I
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: knew him as Joey. Like, you know, Vance Romance is
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: way older than me. I bet you to this day
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: he got a fly sweatsuit on a fucking Sergio Tichini
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: with a fucking Air Force One. If he's alive, God
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: bless him. I promise you. There's guys like that that's
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: going to hustle. 50 Cent ain't going to be broke.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: He ain't never going to be broke. Pop Daddy ain't
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: never going to be broke. They just hustlers. Jay-Z never
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: going to be broke. Jay-Z never.
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: Those guys are never going to be broke. It's the
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: New York grind, man. Yo, you know what I wanted
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: to talk about?
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: You let me tell it. I think I had a
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: harder grind because I came up on some Keep It
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: Real shit. And so I'm walking around with 30, 40 killers.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: How are you supposed to give me a dollar? Right?
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: I just seen Dapper Dan say something. You saw that?
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: He said something about, he was talking about an old
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: UNJZ beef, right? So he said, you mentioned in the
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: rhyme where you really went. And he said, cause you
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: used to really go in the Dapper Dan store and
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: spend the money.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: He said, yes.
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: He said Fat Joe used to really go in the
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: store and spend the money. He said, now at this time,
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: back in the day. This Dapper Dan. This Dapper Dan.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: Who you saying say what? This is Dapper Dan. I'm
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: not gonna lie. This is Dapper Dan. He said, so
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: back in this time, he said, Joe used to come
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: in the store, spending 30 bands here and there to
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: get shit. He said, now at this time, Jay-Z used
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: to come in the store too, but Jay used to
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: come in with Big Daddy Kane. And Jay was just
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: more kind of watching. Like Jay was watching Big Daddy
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: Kane spin the bread at the time. So I guess,
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: I guess that they were saying, when y'all had, you know,
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: rap music back in the day. When he said, I
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: don't need that, no Gs. Yeah, he said, I don't, yeah.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: It ain't no Gs on my outfit, homie. I don't
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: need that for dear, though. I don't need, no, this
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: ain't a sewn outfit. Homies be clapping them sisters.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: I am home. I'll tell you what. A lot of
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: people didn't know that. So they was asking Dapper Dan, like, yo,
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: did you feel like Jay was shooting that joke?
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: I felt all of them shots. He was like, no,
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: he was shooting that joke.
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: He was shooting that joke.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: He was a target for no reason. Because I was like,
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: you could ask Dapper Dan who was the man in
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: my lifestyle back in 88 every other week, trick 30 grand.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: That's a fact.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: Man. So name your first Dapper Dan piece.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: Like, did you get the- All right. It was a
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: red Gucci shirt. So let me tell you, Gerard X,
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: rest in peace, from Harlem. I used to be in
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: my uncle's bodega on 132nd and Park Avenue. My uncle
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: had a number spot bodega, and I was up in
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: there as a kid, but I always liked fly shit.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: And this Ford Taurus came And the guy was bigger
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: than Big Pun. Gerard X. He was the biggest nigga
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: you ever seen. He got out the car. He had
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: what we know to be classic Louis Vuitton, the brown
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: with the gold. He had a whole world. I said, yo.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: I said, my man. What the fuck is that? He
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: was like, this shit that bad. Louis Vuitton. He was like,
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: I said, I must go with you. He took me there.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: You couldn't go in Dapper Dan if you wasn't a hustler.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: You couldn't go in there unless you was Eric B. Rakim, LL,
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: Big Daddy Kane, or a serious drug dealer from any
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: part of town. So he took me there. I'm like 14.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: I caught me a red and white Gucci. I might've
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: wore that shit every day. I got cut. My neck
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: got cut in the red and white Gucci. Know what
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: I'm saying?
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: And how much did that one cost? You remember that?
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: Man, them shits was running two, three thousand. The coats
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: was nine thousand.
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: Got you.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: I got pictures in Dapper Dan coats. They was nine
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars. Niggas was getting robbed for a hundred fifty
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: dollar snorkel, my nigga. Like, why wouldn't you believe I
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: robbed a gym? Look at the fucking picture. Look at
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: the fucking picture. I'm walking around. Y'all tell a story
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: all the time, but I'll tell you.
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: Niggas was getting robbed for eight ball jackets back then,
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: so he making some sense.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: I ain't talking shit. I'm going to tell you something
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: that's so disrespectful. Y'all, I'm sorry, guys. Y'all want me
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: to stop? Nah, go, nigga, go. I ran my neighborhood
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: so much that I would sleep at night with my
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: windows open in the car. and put my chains over
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: the window when they used to rob niggas for a Benzibot.
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: Yo!
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: Yo!
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: Yo!
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: Yo!
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: When the crackheads would rob you, break your car for
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: a Benzibot. Remember when niggas had the red stick?
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: You're not listening to me.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: Niggas had the red stick. Niggas had the, they would
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: rob you for your Benzibot. I used to throw my
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: jewelry some nights over my fucking rear view. and go
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: upstairs and sleep, come out tomorrow, my shit all there.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: Niggas was quick.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: What's your windows down?
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: Yo, I can't fuck with this nigga.
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: Yo, I can't fuck with this nigga.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: Know what the windows down? I don't know what part
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: you want me to do. I'm just telling you the truth.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: You're asking me a question.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: Now, what was your second piece? What jacket did you
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: get from Dapper Dan? Did you get the snorkel?
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: No, I got an MCM... white and green. I'm in
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: Lord Finesse's video, I think, Strictly for the Ladies with
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: the MCM white and green. And this is all before
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: Kingpin type shit. This is all before- Rob Markman Yeah,
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: because you wasn't a rapper at that time. Rob Markman
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: I was starting- Rob Markman But, you know, once we
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: got Money Money, it was abuse going on in Dapper Dan.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: It was like, forget about it. I took one dude,
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: he ratted, so I can't big him up. But this
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: nigga has so much money. He bought Gucci, like Gerard
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: X took me, I took this, nigga. This nigga was
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: a cool nigga. He ratted, though. I won't say his name,
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: but he had the pictures, the crackheads, the pictures, the
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: dudes on the corner looking for the cops. He had
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: the whole block of Dapper Dan. You know, you got
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: to understand that. Dudes was kids, they was young, getting
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: tons of money. They ain't even know what to do
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: with the money. So when I brought it, he said, yo,
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: that shit you be wearing, go look. Yo, nigga bought
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: the whole Dapper Dan out. He had crack heads, I'm
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: trying to tell you. Wearing Dapper Dan. Wearing Dapper Dan snorkels.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: And the most I'll give you is it had the
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: blue thunder in the back. Right. Pitchers, crackheads, dope fiends,
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: the whole block. Nigga like that, they work for FedEx.
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: You know what's crazy? Dapper Dan.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: Yo, Joe.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: Joe, think about this, though.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: I don't tell my story.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: No, that's crazy.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: Yo, nobody want to believe me?
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: Nah, because you spending 30 grand on Dapper Dan back then, 30,000,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: that's a big thing. Now, I believe you. I'm listening
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: to the stories now, because I'm glad you brought that up.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: But Dapper Dan had his viral moment, when you think
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: about it, is when Mike Tyson and that Mitch Green
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: shit happened. Remember back in the days they had a
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: fight at the store?
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: Bro, let me explain something to you. He was popping
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: before that. Dapper band. Any nigga from Queens, any nigga
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: whoever had it, any nigga from the Bronx, any nigga
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: from Ohio, any nigga from Philly, any nigga that had
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: it was coming to Dapper. And they was 24 hours.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: You go to Dapper Dan 3 in the morning. His
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: viral moment, though, was Mike Tyson and me.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: You know I knew Mitch Green. I didn't know you
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: knew Mitch Green. Hello! Hello! Mitch Green. Remember Mitch Green
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: got knocked out by Tyson? Remember they fought at Dapper Dan?
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: That was big shit.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: I'm just new Mitch Green.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: 132nd Park Avenue. He was from the projects across the street.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: Don't ask me why he got the Jerry Carroll shit.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: And he would always ride a bike at 10 speed.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: He would come in the store every day, my uncle's store,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: and buy a 40 ounce. He'd be dusted. Angel dusted.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: PCP talking about, I'm going to fuck Mike Tyson up.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: We'd be like, get the fuck out of here. Bum
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: ass nigga, you ain't fighting. You know Mike Tyson was
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: knocking niggas out in one round. Mitch Green is fighting
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: Mike Tyson on TV. We could not believe the nigga
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: to be dusted on the bike.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: Really got his shit up like that.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: I don't even know how to explain it to you.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: You're from East New York. Imagine you got a nigga
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: from East New York, Summit Avenue, Summer Avenue, and then
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: they're telling you he's going to fight Mike Tyson. Next
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: thing we know, he's on HBO fighting Mike. And I
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: think Mitch Green went the whole distance.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: He did go.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: He was on coke, all types of shit for sure.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: He definitely did.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: But it was just funny because you remember I made
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: the paper back then.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: Once again, America, I knew Mitch Blood Green.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's crazy. But remember when they had the fight
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: at Dapper Dan, right? And it was viral because he
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: had the black eye.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: Mike Tyson beat that nigga. You say he knocked him
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: out like 20 times. He kept getting up. He had
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: to be on coke or something. Super drug, nigga. Maybe that's...
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: He said he, Mike Tyson told me in a regular conversation,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: he was like, yo, I was hitting him with the
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: kitchen sink. He just kept getting up. Like he was
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: like karate kid, nigga jumping on the hood of the Bentley.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: Like he was, like Mike Tyson was going to have
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: to kill.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: Now we gotta go into fashion, because you know, you
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: one of the flyest dudes in the game. You switched
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: outfits like two times today already.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: I think I'm the flyest nigga in the game. Y'all
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: let me brag. I didn't see them had you in
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: the fashion list, too. I was a little disappointed with that, man. Never.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: They shit on me.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: They have 50 cents of yo, Joe, man. You wear
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: all that shit for no reason.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: They ain't rating you.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: I say, yo, this shit. But he not lying, they
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: just made top New York rappers the 100 list, I
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: don't make the list.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: You got 100?
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: They make the fastest shit, I be like number 48,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: they got like, Niggas wearing lacrosse t-shirts on that shit.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know what the fuck going on out here.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: I'm confused. For the people who know this, who love
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: fashion and all, I'm going to keep putting it on.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: You know what it is? Joe, he's a guy that's
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: loved within the industry, but I think the hate is
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: mainly sideline hate because, like, Joe had so much power
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: that like, look, I had a hard time getting the radio.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna ask you about the Khaled.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: How'd you, like I used to come to bring Seductive
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: to radio. It was a wrap. You had beef with
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: Fat Joe. You can't even get played in Miami because
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: Khaled is running the radio.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: That's fucked up, Joe.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: So for me, I was like, damn, man, having beef
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: with these motherfuckers.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: They ain't everything else.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: Wherever I was at. That's fucked up, Joe. You fucked
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: my rent up though, Joe. You fucked my rent up
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: a little bit, bruh.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: No, this is a smash hit. We say it every
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: time that shit come on.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: We say that shit every time. How'd you get.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: With Khaled though? Man, back with Flo-Joe. With the story
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: I was telling you about with the West Coast, they
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: used to have hip hop conventions.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember those. Yeah, conventions.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: So that happened in that Miami convention and then in
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: New York they had one. And we was online, rest
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: in peace, to see Clark Kent had a DJ battle.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: Rest in peace, Clark Kent. And Khaled had the vinyl
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: to the album represent.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: Another Spanish DJ, because he was, that's my other Panamanian brother,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: just putting it out there, Clark Kent.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: Man, what a legend.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: Legend. Brooklyn. My Panamanian brother.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: And so- Rest in peace, Clark Kent, man. What a
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: beautiful guy. Clark Kent used to hang out with us
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: in the Bronx and they'll shoot dice in the back. No,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: he had no business there where he was at.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: Clark Kent is one of the first guys that I
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: ever met being around 50.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: I don't think you want to understand what I'm trying
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: to tell you. We used to be in the Bronx.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about if you want to invent the trenches,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: Clark Kent be in there shooting dice with us. And
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: he's like, He had no business there. He had no
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: business there.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: I think Flex told me Clark Kent was like somebody
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: he looked up to because he was like one of
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: the flyest dudes back then as a DJ. Like getting
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: dressed wise.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: Still the flyest.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: He died fly. No, I know that.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: But I'm just saying back then they see. Clark Kent was,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: he designed mass sneakers. Like this is a joke to
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: Clark Kent. Clark Kent designed. Matter of fact, tomorrow I'm
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: going to wear the Clark Kent shits. So I got
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: a couple of Clark Kent's. He got some of this.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: some Air Force to say Brooklyn like the train station,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: that shit, you would die for that shit. I got him.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: But listen, I got him.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: So I go like this. So Clark Kent's having this battle.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: Khaled's online with DJ Nasty from Orlando. And he got
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: the vinyl to my album like two months before it
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: ever came out. That time you get beat up.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: It's the Flo-Jo.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: Flo-Jo album. So I ran down on him.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: I was like, yo.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: The fuck you doing with that? He was like, yo, yo,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: I'm just a DJ. They gave it to me. I
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: was like, yo, what are you doing? I don't even
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: have my album. It was like two months before the album.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: And then we just became tight from that time before
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: Flo-Jo ever dropped. So, you know, Khaled, we loved him
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: so much. If you know him, you'll love him. And
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: we loved him so much. Home would drive down to
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: Miami just to get Khaled in the van to play
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: him his new music. Khaled, what you think? That's a
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: cheat code. I would have never did Leanback remix with
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: Eminem and Mase if it wasn't for Khaled. Cal was like, yo,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: you got to get the white boy. You could do it.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: I said, I can't get him. Like, are you fucking,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: you M & M? I said, yo, you could get him.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: Talk to him. You the Don, I'm telling you. And
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: I would have never had the balls to get him
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: on there. And then Mace had retired.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: At that time, facts.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: Came back. He been preaching good lately.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Insane Church, right? What is it? I think it's-
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: You can look it up.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: I think it's- I know he's been killing that shit.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: I think it's Insane Church.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: He been killing up. He been killing death, yeah.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: I might be right. It's Insane Church, I think.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: I know that he's- I just followed him.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: His new word is incredible.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: I got to follow him.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: Am I saying it right? I may want to make
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: sure I'm saying it right.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure yet, but I seen a couple clips.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: I'd like to thank him.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: Some of those messages really hit. Home, you know what
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: I'm saying? He's talking that shit.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: Let's talk about the message you had said something the
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: other day about Hot 97 Summer Gym being like a
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: shit show.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: I don't want to say it like that. I know Flex.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: Flex takes I-97. He retweeted. He actually posted up what
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: you said. He takes it personally. Everybody got their own opinion,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: but that also means, yo, Joey, shut the fuck up. So,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: you know, if I'm asked to flex, he's a Leo
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: like me. He's a lion. I know what that meant.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: That meant like your words, yo. So let's just big up.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: I-97 is....
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: The legendary story.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: That's why we're home. That's why we started that.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: And Summer Jam's a big deal. I just said, you know,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: I seen the... I don't know how to explain. There's
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: no way I'm not going to go on a shit
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: show right now explaining this shit to you. Motherfucker walked
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: by me. He was wearing like a latex condom. Nigga
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: had some black patent leather leather shit on. I was like, yo,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: what is going on here? Now, he looked like... It
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: look weird.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: Got you.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: Don't worry about it.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: Got you.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: Now let's fast forward to Organized Rhyme. That's why we
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: here right now. Classic album.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: You got Pusha T on there.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: You saying that classic? I can't say that.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: I'm riding around.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: Pusha T just gave me the date for the video.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: He just hit.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: Shout out to Pusha T. You got there. You got
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: Jada on there. Let's talk about that. Kool and Dre
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: produced the whole album. I mean, I've always been a fan.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: Street Runner 2.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: Listen, even when we even had beef with you guys,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: I always was a fan. I loved your power. You
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: know why? Because I couldn't get my records played in Miami.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: I had a.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: Problem with Kool and Dre one time because Chris Lighty,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: rest in peace, was tight with them. And he offered
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: them like a million dollars to work on some shit
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: like that. He was trying to get them to do
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: 50 shit and all your shit. And I had to
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: go crazy on them niggas. And I was like, you're
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: going to do what? He was like, man, fuck. That
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: was in the middle of the... I was like, are
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: you fucking crazy? Chris Lighty almost had them. They were like, well,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: you know, we're producers.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: I was like.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: I definitely used to get some packs from Kool and Dre.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: What?
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yo.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: I used to get some packs from Chris Hyatt.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: That's a fact. Hater to Love and.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: Kool and Dre. And this is what I'm saying. Hater
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: to Love is one of the biggest G-Unit records ever done.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: Kool and Dre.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: Somebody was trying to ask me if, I don't know
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: what interview it was, but somebody was trying to ask me,
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: was I dissing 50 Cent in New York? The answer
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: was no. I made Candy Shop with Scott Storch. Lil' Kim,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: when you get up here, she'll tell you. I had Lil'
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: Kim dancing like this. Like, move your body like a snake, mama.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: I had her doing that to the candy shop.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember. You let that beat go.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: Scott Storch called me. 30, 20, 30 times. Yo, you
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: sure you don't want the beat? You sure 50 Cent
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: wanted shit? I was like, nah, I ain't got no problem.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: I got no problem with 50 Cent. Give him the beat.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: I made the beat. It wouldn't have been Candy Shop.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: It would have been something else. But the beat, I
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: made it. Like I sat there with Scott Storch. I
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: made Make It Rain with him. I made Lean Back
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: with him. Scott can say whatever the fuck he want.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: I made it with him. When I told him the
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: intro to Lean Back, I said, I need something like
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: Belly when they was walking in the Wilder Club. Pam, pam, pam, pam.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: Whatever you say out your mouth, Scott could play it.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: He played the intro. In any case, he called me
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: 30 times. I had no problem with 56. I said,
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: y'all give him the fucking beat.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: Rob Markman, No, that's great. Because when you look at
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: it and you say you're not in the top 100 MC,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: and I agree with you because it's like, you're a
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: guy that's been relevant through three eras of hip hop,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: like early 90s, the early 2000s, and now. So it's like,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: and you always come with a hit record. If it's
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: A Lean Back, if it's- You and Ashanti. If it's
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: Make It Rain with Lil Wayne. You always coming. One
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: thing you know about Joe is Joe is going to
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: make a classic album and he's going to come with
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: a fucking hit on each one. Records with Pun. You
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: know you're going to come with a hit.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: Let me explain something to you. You hit it right
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: on the head. So you say, you know, you know.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I don't know. And every time I come with
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: a hit, everybody be like, we knew it was coming.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: I'm like, how the fuck you knew if I didn't know?
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: But the point is, I realize I'm like the sun.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: You don't ask the sun how old is the sun.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: The sun come out every day. Yo, you don't ask
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: the sun how old is the sun.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: I know I'm going to get a suntan from the sun.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: It comes out every day and brightens up the world.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: Fadjo going to come out and do some shit viral.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: He's going to be fly every time he's going to
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: make a hit. Oh, we're used to that. He's just
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: going to do it. But it ain't regular shit. Like
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: I told you about 50 earlier, it ain't regular shit.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: How was it when Lean Back came? Because you had
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: Tom Cruise and everybody dancing. Lean Back. Lean Back. You
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: had the whole fucking world. Not just New York City,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: the world. I go to London, Lean Back. Lean Back.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: You go to Germany, Lean Back.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: It's one of the biggest hip hop records ever. It's
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: like an indie club. There's just no other way around it. Man,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: that shit was a dream come true. You know, every
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: one of my songs came at a time where I
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: was about to fall off or I fell off. Like
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: I went up and down like three times, Pete. Like
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: number one, then I'm down here. Then boom, a miracle.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: And then I'm back up. And then I'm back down here.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: And then boom, a miracle. And then like, shit, that
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: been the story of my life. Thank God we talk shit.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: And now we got a podcast. We can get some
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: free money somehow.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: We're partying.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: We're partying. We're partying. We're partying. We're partying. Well, fuck that.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, but in this music- Did Make
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: It Rain come before Lean Back?
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: Or after Lean Back?
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: So what?
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: After Lean Back, Make It Rain, like you said, because
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: that was another one with Wayne. After Lean Back, they
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: thought nothing was Lean Back. So I made Make It Rain,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: it went for platinum. And they still was like, it
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: ain't Lean Back. Like, lean back. I don't think till
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: all the way up they ever said, like, alright, you're
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: out of that shadow.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: You're out of the shadow.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: You're making hits that's so big that the people don't
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: want to hear no.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: Shit no more.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: They're like, nah, nah, nah, nah. It ain't that.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: I saw you talking about the New York record, right?
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: And you were like, yeah, I put a verse on there.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: But I didn't have an issue with 50.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: I just put my.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: If it was you, vice versa, right? Like, say you
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: got an issue with somebody. Nah, I wouldn't have dissed
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: 50 Cent.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: Like, if it was me, and I was on bullshit
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: at the time. Like, super bullshit. I wouldn't have dissed him.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: You know, his beef was with Ja Rule. Ja Rule
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: was my friend. He saved my life. No, not even
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: saying you would have dissed him, though, right? No, I'm saying, no, no.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: I'm saying if.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: You, if it was like, if you, if you got
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: a record, like, if you got a record, no, somebody
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: got a record that you got an issue with, and
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: they jump, how you would have felt? Like somebody jumped
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: on a record that- Rob Markman We.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: Probably wouldn't have liked it. We probably wouldn't have liked it,
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: but for me to jump out the gate and start
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: beefing with 50 Cent because he jumped on the record
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: of somebody I'm Nah, I wouldn't have liked it. I mean,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: obviously y'all know, just like y'all, I had beef with
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: other guys that I couldn't allow.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: Rob Markman You gave that record to Ja Rule, right?
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: Rob Markman It was your record originally?
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: Rob Markman Well, Kool and Dre played it for me.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: Rob Markman Oh word. I didn't know that's part of it.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: Plot thickens. The plot thickens. Yo, Kool and Dre plays
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: it for me. Cause I want to say it right.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: Kool and Dre plays it for me. And I'm like, yo,
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: that's dope. And then they come back and they like, yo,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: you know, we offered it to Ja Rule. He going
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: to take same type of shit with the candy shop shit.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: They was like, he going to take it. I was like, yo,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: you got my blessings.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: What me?
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: You sure? You ain't mad? Cause this shit is fire.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: I was like, nah, I love Ja Rule. So. You know,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: he did the New York and I jumped on that shit.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: And that was the start of a beef. Like seven years, right?
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: How long we beefed? That's whack. Now let me ask
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: y'all a question. Could we ever squash the beef with
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: Ja Rule? Like forever?
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: What are we going to be in the... We going
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: to be in the AARP?
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: Huh?
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: BBD, nigga?
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: MCM? I'm just loyal to the crew. I'm new to
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: the crew. I'm new to the crew. Rob Markman You
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: probably going to fight Ja Rule in the senior citizen's home.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: That's no problem. I'm ready too.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: I'm ready.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: Rob Markman No, no, listen. In the hip hop, y'all
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: going to be playing all that shit, hibachi. Like, yo,
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: come here, Ja Rule. Like, yo, this shit. I'm ready.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: It's all good. We can set it up.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: Some things will never end. But with you, let's talk
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: about organized rhymes. That shit is crazy.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: Organized rhymes.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: Before we get out of here, we got to talk
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: about some more of that. We got to talk about
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: Pusha T.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: You got to go put your tears in that Grammy
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: voice right now.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: Facts.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: And I'm trying to win a Grammy. Anybody who's looking
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: from Grammys or whatever. Pay the price.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: That's one of my favorite jokes.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. That's one of my favorites. My boy
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: got some heat on there, man. I ain't just talking
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: to you. My boy got some heat. Pay the price.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: I'm riding around bumping this shit, man.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: Cool and Dre, man. One thing I can't deny is
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: cool and Dre, man.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: One of my favorites ever, right?
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: And.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know about Char as a rap group. I
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: don't know how Lloyd Banks was or whatever. Young Bucks, man.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: Young Bucks is a liar, man. You know, I told him.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: You said it was a monetized interview that we had.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: It's the biggest liar I ever seen. Yeah, he's a
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: monetized interview. Young Bucks, man, I'm a pussy. But listen
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: to what I'm saying. No, it's the truth. I know.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: So I'm just, so I, we can give it to
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: my energy. No, he's coming again with a diss record.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: It's just, it came over it though. Who is so bad?
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: So Remy won't give it up. Remy is like, she's
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: from a like, Remy won't give it up. It's very
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: hard to see her get along with a girl. She's
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: a rapper. She's a MC. She called me when she
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: got the album and she was just like, she was like, yo, bro,
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: that they want to know. That's the last record of them.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: She was like, they want to know. She said, you
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: bombing elite. I see your rim. She was like, nah, nigga,
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: she smoking a punch. This is different. Like, yo, you
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: rhyming like one of them ones. I waited a whole
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: lifetime for Rem. I don't know how it is with y'all.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: Do y'all, do y'all big each other up or not?
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: Rem?
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: No, no, Rem ain't doing that. Rem bigging up Fat
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: Joe and everybody's actually.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: She ain't trying to.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: One of your favorite projects.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's my best album. For me personally. Shout out
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: Tony Sunshine because I brought him up earlier. Tony Sunshine
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: is my only epic fail. Tony Sunshine should have been
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: as big as any R & B singer in the world.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: I tried. I got R. Kelly to write for him.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: I got T-Pain to write for him. I got everybody
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: in the world. But he had these record deals with
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: these record labels. They didn't believe or they didn't think
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: a Spanish kid like him could really do the R & B.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: But he could have been a John Legend, any one
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: of them dudes. You know what I'm saying? He still flies,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: still with us for life. We always going to have him.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: He makes money, he looks great. He's car diesel fly nigga.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: But you know, if you asked me where I dropped
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: the ball at, it would be the buck stops at
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: Tony Sunshine. He should have been, A superstar. Wherever you
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: seen him, he was like, because he started all the like, whatever,
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: Akon's crazy. Akon hit me today. Whatever Akon was doing,
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: we're like locked up and all that shit.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: Tony Sunshine.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: Talking that shit. That nigga was talking. He had some shit.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: Fo, fo, fo. Yo, listen.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you. You think y'all the niggas the
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: only petty niggas. We petty. Right? Nigga, Miami has something.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: The Grammys in Miami. Everybody's there. So he took over. Girl,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: guns I'm in love with you. Yeah, dude. Yeah, like Gage.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: So he flipped the John Legend song. That nigga John
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: Legend walks in the club. You know, it's Grammys. Everybody,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: your name is in there. And I tell the DJ.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: He goes, guns, I'm in love with you. Then they
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: ain't got so scared. He walked out that fucking club
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: so fast. He said, boy, he must, he see all
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: these niggas are insane. Like hit you with a grenade.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: I will just piss to whip you and slap you
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: with the Mac do it. That nigga was talking. Tone Sunshine. Oh, no, no, no.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: He said, y'all destroyed money. Like, y'all niggas a foul. Like,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: what y'all did to my shit. Y'all remixed that shit.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: He said, y'all was famous for that, for the mixtapes.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: Y'all put y'all foot in the ass. What'd they say,
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: belt the ass now?
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: Definitely put belt the ass.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I made a mixtape and almost got sued by
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: 10 people. One mixtape. The only mixtape I ever did.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: What Would Big Do? Shit was incredible, but I used
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: a print sample of shit. Everybody, but it wasn't for sale.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: But it wasn't for sale.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: Fat Joe never gets an opportunity. This shit was incredible.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: It was a mixtape for free.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: Here, take it.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: They were like, the estate of Prince, the estate of
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: Michael Jackson, the estate of... It was like, we are
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: so disappointed in you that day. That day. I call
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: high blood pressure.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: That's one day.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: Because, you know, it's not easy being Fat Joe. You know,
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: you're taking me for granted. Well, I've been hearing him
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: on the TV a lot now, the NBA game. They
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: be kind of calling you Slim Joe now. I am slim.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: But let me tell you- Rob Markman, Jr.: Because you
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: do a good run with the Knicks with us, man.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: You helped us get that chip, my brother.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: You helped us get that chip, my brother. Definitely when
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 3: Wendy was doing them free throws, what you was doing again,
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 3: when Wendy was doing the free.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: Throws, yeah. There we go.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: There we go, yeah.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: Let me explain, Sidney. When you see me in courtside,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: the projects got equity in the Knicks. You better believe it.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: You better believe it. You see a nigga from the hood,
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: you say, damn, we got one. And then I'm just
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: like every Nick fan. I'm not too big and I
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: don't give a fuck. I'm not Fat Joe the rapper
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: when I'm at that game. I'm a straight Nick fan
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: that be screaming at the TV. I'm like, yo, Wimby, man,
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: I almost got fucked up about you want to talk
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: real shit. I almost got beat up like around a
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: good five, six. I got tackled. Rich had to tackle
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: some hacksaw Jim Duggan nigga in Philly when we beat them.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: Big white nigga came. Boom. That was on purpose, guys.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: I'm taking a picture with some fans.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 3: Boom.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: I moved to the side. Rich said, you motherfucker. Brits
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: don't wanna march. Jada was with us, he was like, Rich,
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: everybody was like, yo Rich, Rich don't tackle the nigga,
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: you motherfucker. I said, yo Rich, chill, chill, chill, chill.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: The whole shit gotta be on camera.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: And this is what I'm saying, it's like, you gotta
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: give Fat Joe his flowers now because it's like, he
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: not only cool with Slick Rick or Big Daddy Kane,
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: he's on court with Spike Lee. I seen him give
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: the sneakers away to Brunson. He's like the guy everybody
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: loves in the game, man.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: Thank God. And let me tell you, I'll tell you something, man,
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: that I'm most proud about. You know, my father was tough.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: You know, like I said, I was in the streets
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: since I'm 14. It was, it was because I was
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: aggressive to get money. And I just, my father, he
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: was real. He was tough. He'll punch you in your face.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: Like you 14, these grown ass man, he trying to
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: knock you out. Tough love. He ain't playing with you.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: He ain't spanking you. My father punch a hole through
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: your face, right? So I left the house 14. I
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: was a little scared. You know, I went to live
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: in a crackhead hotel. That shit was like $ 30 a night.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: And the point is, right, the only time my father ever,
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: I bought him a house. I took care of him
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: his whole, for 20 years, I took care of every
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: bill my mother and father. The only time he said, yo,
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: I'm proud of you is one Thanksgiving I was out
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: there giving food to the people. And he was like, yo,
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: I'm proud of you, man. You don't know how proud
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: you make me to see you give the people food.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: And I was like, wow. It's the first and only
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: compliment he ever took.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: You always give it back. You gave it back to
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: Puerto Rico on the hurricanes.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: We just gave two planes to Columbia last week. Shout
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: out to Unidos por Colombia and everybody from Queens. The
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: Queens people collected the water, the hygiene, everything. We sent
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: the planes, right?
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 3: 777.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: We sent two planes. So the point I'm making to
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: you is the other day I'm at this hip hop school.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: Shout out to the hip hop school in the Bronx.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: It's my neighborhood where I grew up at. And I
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: actually got robbed from my Pumas across the street from there.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: Claremont Park. Somebody robbed Fat Joe before. I just told
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: you niggas was whipping my ass for fun. Okay, that's right.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 3: Okay, that's right.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: Nah, they was whipping my ass. I had to change
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: the script.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 3: Okay, guys. No.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: What do you want me to do? You think I
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: ain't get robbed? So I go like... I used to
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: go to a store called Ju-Man and they'd be like,
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: all right, Joey, on three, niggas is waiting across the
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: street to rob you when you buy anything in Ju-Man.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: So one, two, three, and you run. And a hundred
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: niggas chase you till you get to your projects.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: With your sneakers.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: Crazy, crazy. No, it's a fact.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: Right? So I go like this. So anyway, I'm at
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: the hip hop school. Man, come over. You see your Joe, man.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: I'm the principal of the charter school over there. Damn,
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: what was the name of the charter school?
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: Fuck.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: He said something, the charter school academy or whatever. I
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: knew what it was. He was like, yo, man, you
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: gave a half a million dollars in sneakers and clothes
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: to our students. Our people really appreciate.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: Boom.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: Little lady comes. Hey, Joe, I'm the principal from your elementary.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: Thank you for the computer library that you gave us
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: and this and this and that. She goes, maybe a
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: minute later, because where they put the hip hop school,
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: two blocks away, they had a fire where the Muslims,
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: the African Muslims, like I think 18 of them died
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: in the building. We donated $ 2 million. So a man
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: come over from the Muslim community over, he was like, yo, brother,
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: you donated the $ 2 million to the, and it's crazy
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: because I just help people all the time. until you
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: bailed the nigga out two days ago. It's like, I
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: help people all the time and I do it from
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: the kindness of my heart. Like, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: But to see people actually acknowledging and tell you like,
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: forget all this shit. I don't even know this shit. Yo,
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, there's some cousins in my family watching
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: this that's broke. They're like, yo, this motherfucker better throw
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: something this way. He over here giving back to everybody else.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: He better throw some shit this way. But, you know,
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: it makes that really, that's better than any music. That's
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: better than anything, you know, just giving back to my community.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: We do a pantry every month, right, where we feed
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: thousands of families every month. I always wanted to do that.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: I'm finally up to where I could do that consistently.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: So every month we feed it thousands of families, like
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: real groceries, everything, rice, beans, soup, this, that, chicken, this, that, that.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: And so I tell you another thing really quick. So
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: when they were breaking into all the stores, loot in
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: the stores, George Floyd, we out here after this did here,
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: When they were breaking in, hold on, hold on, hold on.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: Because we could be here for five hours. So when
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: they were breaking into all the stores, Nike put me
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: on the Zoom and Nike said, yo, we got like
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: 3000 stores. The only two stores that ain't get broken
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: into is Fat Joe stores up in YC. We want
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: you to speak to all these owners.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: What?
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 3: Yo. They went breaking the Fat Joe store. They're like, yo,
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: can you please talk to these? Yes. How do you, so.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: Not for being tough.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, go ahead. I'm listening.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: Niggas was trying to break in the stores and their
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: grandmothers was like, no, no, not Gordo. He feeds us.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: You can't not. That's what happened. Not that store. Not
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: that store.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: Not Gordo.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 3: Not that one.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: We got Thanksgiving for going though. You ain't doing that.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: We told them niggas, yo, you can't run up in this.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: Go anywhere else. So they put me to talk to
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: a bunch of, they call them vendors. Everybody going to stores.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: They came on and said, listen guys, the only thing
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: we do is we look out for the community. You
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: can't just be taking money from the community, making money
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: off the community. living in a mansion and sending your
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: kids to private school and don't want to give back something, scholarships,
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: support the school team, do something. You guys just want
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: to keep eating off of us and not giving back.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: And that's why the community didn't protect your shit. Had
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: you had a reputation of looking out for the hood,
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: they'd have stood in front of your store and been like, nah, nah, nah,
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: not this one. That's what happened.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: Y'all heard that? Fat Joe giving back. Organized rhyme out
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: right now. Make sure y'all tap it. Netflix. Hey, Joe
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: and Jada.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: Shout out to Terror Squad sneakers and G-Unit sneakers. Y'all
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: see what's going on. Sold out. Hold on.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: Talk about sneakers.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: Talk about sneakers.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 3: How did you and Michael Jordan get so fucking cool?
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: On a side note, where'd that relationship start from? Long
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: time ago, you know it was because of y'all niggas.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: Maybe you don't want to ask that question. For real?
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: I'm the first rapper that had a signature Jordan. I
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: designed it with Michael Jordan. I met with him like
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: seven different times. Designing it.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 3: This guy right here is amazing.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: This guy got so many different stories. That's why I
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: had to ask.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 3: Because being cool with Michael Jordan ain't just something regular.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: So I had to ask that before we get the
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: fuck out of here.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: Yo, come on.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: Hold up. Hold up.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: Go ahead. Go ahead, Joe. Go ahead, Joe.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: I got my store because of Michael Jordan. Do you
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: know that? You didn't know that? I did. I did
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: with Michael Jordan. Not with a designer team, not with
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: a stylist. No, I'm meeting with Michael Jordan and he
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: wanted me to do it. The insole, he wanted to
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: be Puerto Rico. He wanted to be like some Latino
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: type shit. We meeting and then we get into that shit.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: Miami that, fuck G-Unit, y'all niggas got, you got security.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: That next day, I got a phone call. It said,
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: Big Joe, you know, I'm not into none of this controversy.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: But maybe we revisit this. To this day, I ain't
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: get a Jordan. A T.S.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: Jordan?
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: And that's my family. You know, I have dinner with
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: Michael Jordan. It's an honor. I have dinner with Michael Jordan.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: I chill with Michael Jordan. But what I'm saying.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 3: Is, but listen, listen.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: That's why I'm open. I'm like, yo, listen to the joke.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: Can I say something?
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: When he said he desired a Jordan, come on.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: I did with Michael Jordan. After that shit, that MTV shit.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: After that MTV shit, the next morning, I'll never forget.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: I was on my way to Jamaica. I had a show.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: He's like, Big Joe, we don't, we're not into that.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: Rat beef and all. We don't know nothing about it.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: Nike's not with that shit.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: Him, he wasn't. Michael Jordan wasn't with that shit. I go,
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: I've got such a relationship with Nike and Jordan and
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: all that. I go and build the store. without permission.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know that you got to get vetted. You
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: need permission. They won't give, that's a real shit. Like
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: you can't just open a store. You think I'm going
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: to open a sneaker store. You got to go. Nigga,
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: you better off opening a dispensary. Shout out to Dynasty Commodity.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: One of my favorites. Go get high. But listen to
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Nah, nigga fly. So I don't, the
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: man come from Nike. And he said, yo, who told
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: you to make this store? I said, no, I wanted
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: to make a store. I collect sneakers. You know, we cool.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: We family. He said, it don't work like that. He said,
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: you got to get vetted and all that. And they're
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: not opening stores right now, Joe. So you're going to
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: most likely, you spent your money for no reason. I
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: might have spent $ 700, 000, $ 800, 000. Damn. The hood ain't never happened.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: White marble, chandeliers. I did this shit too fly. So
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: I turn around, I go like this, I said, and
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: that was that. That night, Jordan did a party for
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: Namar Jr. They welcomed him to Team Jordan. Just my luck.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: So I show up, I think Fab was there, Kelly
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: Rowland was performing. All I know is I hear a voice.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: It goes, Big Joe, Big Joe, when I tell you
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: Everybody shut the fuck up. It was Michael Jordan. He
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: had a cigar in his hand. He had some cognac.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: Your store. I'm there.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 3: Opening day.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: Your store. I'm there. Opening day. When I tell you
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: these niggas rant, guess you got a store, buddy. We
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: want to help you. Oh, my God. What great news.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: He got me my store.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: And then I went back because... If we're going to
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: keep it real, in the hood, we had no stores
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: tier zero. So if Drake come out with a sneaker,
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: Travis got this, the hood never got that. It was
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: always downtown. They only had like five clubs at the age.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: You had to go down there. Yes. And so all
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: our kids was going down there. And so I pull
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: up on Michael Jordan. And he was at a party
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: in the van. I said, yo, MJ, you know him
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: from the black and brown community? Yo! He turned around
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: so fast. He said, you give Big Joe what he want.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: He didn't even, he, I like Reverend Al shocked in him.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: He didn't even want to hear it. He just said, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: Give Big Joe whatever, whatever you want to say his
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: tears are. Don't care what tear. Give it to Big Joe.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: They came over, yo, you did it. Don't worry about it.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: You're on the list now. Now you got the best shit.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: Michael Jordan helped me to the moon and back.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: Yo, don't talk to him. He's a LeBron fan. We
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: Knicks fans.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: I am a LeBron fan.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 3: LeBron James. Let's go, baby.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: Yo, what you think about him.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: Coming to the East, man? What are we going to
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 2: do to Philly this year, Joe?
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: We probably gonna get beat up. Yo, don't go to Philly.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: I promise you. You been to a Philly against New York?
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: Nah, I never went to Philly, just New York.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: Bring brass knuckles, nigga. I almost had 10 fights in Philly. Oh,
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: they almost threw me out for cheering. I got a
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: guy there. He said, you know how we got the
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: guys that treat you nice, the ushers in the garden
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: and all? He was like, don't clap. Don't cheer. I said,
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: what the fuck you told? These shit is like $ 10, 000,
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: $ 20, 000 seats. Fuck you told. He was like, don't clap.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: I'm going to throw you at it.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 3: I had to.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: Call Skinny Joe. You know Skinny Joe? He's famous for
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: making cheesesteaks. I called Skinny Joe on FaceTime and I
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: showed him like that. Because you know, it's like, he said,
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: I said, yeah, motherfucker. I know Skinny Joe.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: Now Philly got LeBron. It's going to be a crazy year.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: And the opening game, shout to New York, is Philly.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: It's October 20th. My outfit is already laid out.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 3: I believe you.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: Pain.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 3: I believe you.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: Pain.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: Pain.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: That outfit is already laid out. Pain.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: For October 20th. You ready?
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: For October 20th. How's the podcast like?
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 3: You enjoying it, Joe? You enjoying the podcast life?
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: Making a lot of money. And so is Jadakiss. And
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: we keep the hip hop culture while he laughing.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 3: No, no.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: Huh? That was you? We're making a lot of money.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: Of course.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: Shout out to Netflix, Joe and Jada.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 3: And we thank y'all for putting us on to this
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 3: money as well. We got to thank you. Thank you, man.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 3: Shout out to y'all.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: Shout out to Joe and Jada and my guy, Rich.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 3: So you're enjoying it.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: You know what happens is that a lot of guys,
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: I just don't know. I did some shit that just
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: went viral today, I posted it, and it was like,
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: everybody gotta win. I never know when I gotta tap
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: y'all guys for help. The more people you are affiliated
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: with that wins and makes their own money, the more
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: powerful you are. When you need them or they need you,
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: you there for them. See, a lot of guys before us,
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: their concept was me. And everybody got to look up
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: to me and everybody got to ask me, but what
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: happens when you stumble?
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 3: When your line of stumbles?
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: So that's the whole key. So I already knew you guys,
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: you had what me and Jada had. You had the authenticity.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: You know how to talk shit. You ain't scared of nobody.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: You going to get it in. I didn't know. that
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: you had so many guests. You guys got a lot
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: of guests. You niggas is moving, right? That's not an
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: easy thing. You guys are moving and your work ethic,
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: if there was anything that impressed me the most about
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: y'all is your work ethic, sometimes the consistency. So say Carisha,
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: young Miami, she had the hottest, podcast in the world,
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: but she would do like one every two months.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 3: That's a fact.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: If you don't sit down on this motherfucker, you can't
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: get to that bag.
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 3: That's a fact.
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: So you can't do one a month or whatever the
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: case may be. Somebody like Shannon Sharp. Shannon Sharp is dope.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: pulverizing the game. But he do like one a month,
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: one every two months. I sent them the T.S. sneakers too.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: He do one a month or two a month. We
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: just coming in and you doing the same shit. I
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: don't know if it's because of us, but y'all just moving.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 3: We moving. Shout out to the value.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: We got to give the main props. Shout out to
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: the value.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 3: Yes, facts.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: They smart.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 2: We just working, man.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: No, you working hard and that's to be commended. But,
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: you know, we just trying to keep this. You know,
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: I say God is real talk and is foul because
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: it's God and it's hip hop culture. then it's my family.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: That's how I look at it in life. So I'm
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: all about preserving this culture, telling the truth. If we
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: want to hear something, if we think it's cap, let's
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: ask Snoop Dogg.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 3: Let's ask 50 Cent, let's ask- Real talk.
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: Let's ask them.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: Let's ask Michael Jordan.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: Because what they try to do, ask Michael Jordan.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 2: I know, I've seen it.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: What you trying to say, my nigga Joe? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: What the fuck? He said it 10 times.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: I heard you, Joe.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: I heard you. He go with the cap. He go
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: with the cap.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: Yo.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 3: Yo.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: Yo, I don't want to talk about all. The last controversy.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: I got a controversy every week, but the last controversy.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: Shout out to the so-called dirty section. You told me
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: one time Joe lay off them. They stood up for me.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: Kids told you to lay off them too. Yeah, but
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: every last one of them, they repping for you right now.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: They repping for you right now. They repping for you
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: Is that a good shout.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: Out, Rich?
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's a good shout out.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 3: Shout out.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 2: Dirty section.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: I acknowledge you guys for all... Putting up with us.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 3: And they holding you down right now. Right now, the
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 3: dirty section that's holding my boy down.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: Fat Joe is in the building. Organized rhyme is out now.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 2: Nothing but hits on there. Joe and Jada's on Netflix
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 2: getting that bag. Got the sneakers that sold out. Shout
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 2: out to Nike. We doing big things. Dynasty.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: I need G-Unit sneakers. We got some coming.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 2: Make sure y'all like. Share, subscribe, the volume, the real report.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: And I also got a show on Complex Feed Yale.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: Check that out too. Let's go!