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Full Show Podcast: 30 July 2026 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickens on
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  Speaker 1: early edition with Spark for Business technology that keeps business moving,
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  Speaker 1: news talks.
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  Speaker 2: There'd be well welcome on into your Thursday. I'm Andrew
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  Speaker 2: Dickins coming up over the next hour. We're buying drones,
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  Speaker 2: but meanwhile the report says we're not training enough military staff.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll have Defense Minister Chris Pink for you in
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  Speaker 2: five minutes. Despite a recommendation from the Petitions Committee to
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  Speaker 2: ban fireworks, the government is doing nothing. So how does
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  Speaker 2: his SPCA feel about that? Ten minutes time the government's
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  Speaker 2: response to the COVID inquiry. Is it enough? We'll talk
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  Speaker 2: to a COVID lawyer just before six. We've got Mitch
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  Speaker 2: mccamm from the USA. We've got correspondents from right around
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  Speaker 2: New Zealand News as it breaks, and you can have
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  Speaker 2: your say on the text and the number is ninety
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  Speaker 2: two ninety two. Small charge applies the agenda seven after
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  Speaker 2: five on Thursday, the thirtieth of July, and we'll start
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  Speaker 2: in the UK, where the Prime Minister Andy Burnham wants
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  Speaker 2: to bring forward a major review of social care, promising
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  Speaker 2: to lift training standards and support for workers.
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  Speaker 3: The current situation frankly, is bad for everybody. It's certainly
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  Speaker 3: bad for the people who don't get the.
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  Speaker 2: Care that they need.
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  Speaker 3: It's estimated today in England around two million of bulks
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  Speaker 3: have unmapped care needs.
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  Speaker 2: But here's his problem. He's got no money.
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  Speaker 4: There is a scope to increase borrowing from this point,
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  Speaker 4: and any further increases and spending needs to be financed
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  Speaker 4: from savings elsewhere or by increasing taxes.
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  Speaker 2: All right, to Oscar winning actor Jared Lito from thirty
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  Speaker 2: Seconds from Mars. He's also a rock singer when an
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  Speaker 2: Academy award in the Dallas Buyers come Anyway, he is
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  Speaker 2: facing serious new allegations for women have accused him of
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  Speaker 2: sexual miscondent conduct. Allegedly the incidents happened when they were teenagers.
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  Speaker 2: Here is one complainant story.
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  Speaker 5: We had drifted in the realm to talk about the
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  Speaker 5: age of consent. I had mentioned to him my dad
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  Speaker 5: was alaw enforcement that I knew with certainty that here
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  Speaker 5: in California the age of consent is eighteen. He just
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  Speaker 5: kind of shrugged it off, like it wasn't a huge
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  Speaker 5: concern for him. I don't think I ever to recently
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  Speaker 5: have blamed him.
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  Speaker 6: I always blamed me.
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  Speaker 2: So Jared Leta obviously has denied the allegations because he
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  Speaker 2: would wouldn't be And it comes as the BBC releases
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  Speaker 2: a documentary on him which details the stories of ten
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  Speaker 2: women who have complaints about his behavior. And finally, former
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  Speaker 2: top US health official Anthony Fauci has refused to answer
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  Speaker 2: questions at a US Senate hearing into the origins of COVID.
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  Speaker 2: He evoked his Fifth amend right, saying he's fearing that
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  Speaker 2: Republicans could use his evidence to prosecute him for perjury.
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  Speaker 7: Any reasonable person who was followed his unhinged obsession with
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  Speaker 7: me would readily come to the same conclusion. Therefore, although
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  Speaker 7: it pains me to do so because of the respect
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  Speaker 7: I have for the legislative branch of government, under the
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  Speaker 7: advice of my attorneys, I will invoke my right under
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  Speaker 7: the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution to refrain from answering
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  Speaker 7: your questions.
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  Speaker 2: So if aut she's talking about Ran Paul and we'll
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  Speaker 2: have more on this with Mitch mccannon in about forty
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  Speaker 2: minutes time. It is now tier and after five news.
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  Speaker 1: And views you trust to start your day. It's early
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  Speaker 1: edition with Andrew Dickens and Spark for business technology that
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  Speaker 1: keeps business moving.
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  Speaker 2: US talks it be. So this government came into power
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  Speaker 2: saying that crackdown on wasteful spending, looking at the balance
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  Speaker 2: sheets forensically, line by line and making wise decisions. Well,
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  Speaker 2: here's a little story from my neighborhood which might have
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  Speaker 2: wider implications. Our local art gallery has been turned down
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  Speaker 2: for funding by Creative New Zealand. It's a money saving exercise.
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  Speaker 2: The government has slashed their budget, they get no money.
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  Speaker 2: The place is called Deppo. They run a gallery that's
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  Speaker 2: big on introducing new artists to the market and giving
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  Speaker 2: them a break. They've got a long and very success story.
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  Speaker 2: They've also started a second gallery on the main street
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  Speaker 2: which is a big hit with tourists and visitors, and
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  Speaker 2: it's also a very good retail outlet for local artisans
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  Speaker 2: and their works. And they run the Depot recording studio
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  Speaker 2: which has been used by many musical artists. Kim Willoughby's
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  Speaker 2: right in there, right now, recording right now. I saw
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  Speaker 2: it the other day. The Czechs started their career there
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  Speaker 2: and some young woman called La yell At O'Connor started
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  Speaker 2: recording there as well, with Ricky Morris, you may know
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  Speaker 2: her better as Lord. This is all in depot. It's
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  Speaker 2: not like they get a fortune.
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  Speaker 8: Each year.
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  Speaker 2: They get about one hundred and eighty to two hundred
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  Speaker 2: grand from Creative New Zealand, but not this coming year.
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  Speaker 9: Now.
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  Speaker 2: It's not going to kill them, but it will severely
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  Speaker 2: curtail their work, work that to date has been valuable,
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  Speaker 2: and hopefully they can find another income stream. Anyway, It
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  Speaker 2: just seemed to me a petty case of government spending
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  Speaker 2: carts without much thought, and also more so public servants
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  Speaker 2: working blindly towards targets, knowing the price of everything and
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  Speaker 2: the value of nothing.
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  Speaker 9: She said.
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  Speaker 2: And here's another one. The Prime Minister has at the
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  Speaker 2: moment having to defend a twenty thousand dollars spend up
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  Speaker 2: on helicopters. Defense helicopters from Awkin to Hamilton, two trips,
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  Speaker 2: one to take him to Mystery Creek and another so
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  Speaker 2: he could visit a kmart distribution hub and include twenty grand.
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  Speaker 2: So he's now defending that was that wasteful government spending?
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  Speaker 2: Who knows? Twelve after five I'll tell you some big
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  Speaker 2: spending defense. Remember we've got twelve billion to spend over
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  Speaker 2: the next little while. And now Chris Pink, the Defense Minister,
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  Speaker 2: has announced the first big buy it and it's drones.
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  Speaker 2: But it comes as a bad report comes out about
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  Speaker 2: how much how little staff we're actually training for the military.
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  Speaker 2: Chris Penk is joining me.
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  Speaker 2: It's fine fourteen. So the government's looking at buying some
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  Speaker 2: drones for the military. So these drones will be long range,
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  Speaker 2: one way strike drones, and they're looking to pick things
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  Speaker 2: up from Kiwi manufacturers. Some manufacturers here in fact are
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  Speaker 2: already making the drones. They shut them off to the
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  Speaker 2: Ukraine so they are tried and tested. And the Defense
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  Speaker 2: Minister is Chris Pink, who joins me. Now, Hello, Chris, Hello,
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  Speaker 2: good one.
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  Speaker 10: Didn't you so.
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  Speaker 2: These drones strike force, They just go one way and
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  Speaker 2: then they blow something up.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, there's two kinds of drones that we're interested in,
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  Speaker 8: as you say, primarily from New Zealand manufacturers as possible.
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  Speaker 8: There are the one way attack drones, which are pretty
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  Speaker 8: much what they sound like, and you've described that correctly.
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  Speaker 8: The other type is long range persistent maritime surveillance, which
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  Speaker 8: is of course there's got a lot of the area
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  Speaker 8: that we want to cover and we want to find
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  Speaker 8: out what's out there, so we can put up an
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  Speaker 8: uncrude aircraft and an essence and inhibits.
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  Speaker 2: Through that work very efficiently, and that's inexpensively. That sounds good,
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  Speaker 2: but don't we have the four poseidons to do that.
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  Speaker 8: Well? It would actually be to complement their work, and
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  Speaker 8: there are specialized tasks that the maritime patrol aircraft the
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  Speaker 8: poseidons can do that drones can't yet do in terms
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  Speaker 8: of deploying sonar boys, so they put those out in
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  Speaker 8: hunt submarines. But there's other kinds of surveillance that we
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  Speaker 8: can do just from drones. So it's about having both options.
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  Speaker 2: Covered and how much have you got to spend.
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  Speaker 8: Well, we'll see what we need to spend to get
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  Speaker 8: the result. But clearly increasingly uncrewed technologies represent best being
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  Speaker 8: for back literally in the case of the one way
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  Speaker 8: of tech drones.
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  Speaker 2: I think we all agree with that, but at the
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  Speaker 2: same time, how much money you're going to spend on them,
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  Speaker 2: just you know, what's your budget.
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  Speaker 8: Well, we don't want to say exactly what we're going
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  Speaker 8: to need to spend otherwise we'll you know, constrain ourselves
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  Speaker 8: for commercial negotiations. But suffice to say, an increasing percentage
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  Speaker 8: of our defense budget, which in turn is increasing, will
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  Speaker 8: be available for drones, whether it's in the air or
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  Speaker 8: potentially into the future as well on the surface, subsurface,
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  Speaker 8: the ocean and maybe land as well.
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  Speaker 2: All right, now, look on another story, our government paper
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  Speaker 2: has come out saying New Zealand's army recruit training infrastructure
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  Speaker 2: is not in a position to meet existing or future
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  Speaker 2: demand in an effective way. Is a report right? And
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  Speaker 2: what are you going to do?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, look, I mean Kennet's been considering all kinds of
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  Speaker 8: situations of under investment that we've inherited. One of it,
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  Speaker 8: as you quite rightly say, is in relation to training facilities.
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  Speaker 8: So that's something we're well aware of and we are
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  Speaker 8: investing in different facilities at our camps and bases around
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  Speaker 8: New Zealand to improve executly that situation.
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  Speaker 2: And how much are you going to spend on that one?
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  Speaker 2: Because you know, you've committed to a two percent of
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  Speaker 2: GDP budget, You've got twelve billion to spend. We're obviously
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  Speaker 2: not training enough people. How much are you going to
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  Speaker 2: spend on training new people?
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  Speaker 8: Well, I mean it depends how you count what we
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  Speaker 8: need to spend on our people. Clearly, paying conditions a
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  Speaker 8: big part of it. We've got the training facilities, but
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  Speaker 8: actually also part of what's attractive to people who want
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  Speaker 8: to sign up to join the military and of course
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  Speaker 8: to be retained as well, and traditionally that's been an
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  Speaker 8: area where we need to do better is around housing
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  Speaker 8: as well. So a lot of money getting spent taxpayer dollars,
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  Speaker 8: which we're spending wisely and in a way that represents
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  Speaker 8: what you expect a prudent approach for government, but a
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  Speaker 8: lot's going to need to be spent in the coming
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  Speaker 8: years to get up to speed in all these things.
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  Speaker 2: And all of that is indicative of our underspending on
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  Speaker 2: defense for generations.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it's very fair to say.
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  Speaker 8: I think, you know, successive governments, let's be honest and
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  Speaker 8: have underinvested and to the extent that reflects a world
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  Speaker 8: of which we had a more benign strategic environment that's
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  Speaker 8: perhaps fair enough, but we're in a scenario now where
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  Speaker 8: we can't afford to be complacent. We know economic security
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  Speaker 8: is tied in with national and regional secure really, so
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  Speaker 8: we're doing what we need to set those basics.
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  Speaker 2: Chris, thank you for waking up early for us, and
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  Speaker 2: thank you for your time today, Chris Pink the Defense Minister.
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  Speaker 2: And here's a fun fact for you. More than eighty
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  Speaker 2: percent of the Defense forces two point six billion dollar
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  Speaker 2: operating budget is already spent in New Zealand, significantly contributing
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  Speaker 2: to the economy. And they're looking for local suppliers for
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  Speaker 2: these drones. So it turns out we're quite good at
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  Speaker 2: this stuff. It's good news, bad news for pets and
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  Speaker 2: animals though. Fireworks and guy fawks is still on four
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  Speaker 2: days in November. That's all it is, four days in November.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk about this with the SBCA in just a
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  Speaker 2: Five twenty one. The firework debate is back on again.
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  Speaker 2: The government's rejected calls to ban public sales despite big petitions.
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  Speaker 2: Ministers say they're sticking with the status. Quote how does
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  Speaker 2: the SPCA feel about it? We're joined by their senior
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  Speaker 2: scientific officer, doctor Allison Vaughan. Hello, Ellison, Hello, I expect
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  Speaker 2: that you're very disappointed.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, we're genuinely devastated. We are actually quite hopeful this
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  Speaker 9: time because this had been the first time the Petition
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  Speaker 9: Committee had actually recommended that the government banned the privacy
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  Speaker 9: on youse of fireworks, while of course keeping public displays.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well, let's talk about that. Parliament's Petitions Committee recommended
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  Speaker 2: a ban. They said their assessment is that public sentiment
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  Speaker 2: is shifting. They consider that present generations have more information
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  Speaker 2: about and therefore take more seriously the effects of fireworks
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  Speaker 2: on animal welfare than previous generations may have done. So,
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  Speaker 2: given that recommendation, why do you think the government did nothing?
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  Speaker 9: I think that's an excellent question to put to the government.
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  Speaker 9: We honestly cannot explain it. The evidence is overwhelming in
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  Speaker 9: support of a ban in terms of animal welfare in
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  Speaker 9: terms of her environment and in terms of our communities,
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  Speaker 9: and really the evidence of preserving the privacy one use
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  Speaker 9: is absent.
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  Speaker 2: The petitions committing though and saying that we have more
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  Speaker 2: information about this and we take more seriously effects on
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  Speaker 2: fireworks on animals. You can also argue that we take
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  Speaker 2: more care about animals now and we're not so crazy
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  Speaker 2: with the orgy of explosions that it used to be.
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  Speaker 2: Why are fireworks such an issue for this country and
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  Speaker 2: for pets when it's just four days in November.
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  Speaker 9: Well, as everyone listening knows, it is not just four days.
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  Speaker 9: There's four days when they're on sale. But I had them,
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  Speaker 9: for example here in West Stockholm. They were going off
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  Speaker 9: in the middle of the night last week. So we
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  Speaker 9: know that a lot of people were already aware of
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  Speaker 9: the impacts on their companion animals if they have one
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  Speaker 9: who's scared. Three quarters of cats and dogs show fear
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  Speaker 9: during fireworks. A quarter of horse owners have had horses injured.
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  Speaker 9: But now we are also more aware of the impact
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  Speaker 9: on our wildlife and also the increasing risk of wildfire
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  Speaker 9: is caused by.
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  Speaker 2: Fireworks, And what are you going to do next?
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  Speaker 9: Well, we're not stopping here. We're continuing to work and
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  Speaker 9: seeing progress at a local level with councils introducing title
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  Speaker 9: rules around fireworks in public. But we're also going to
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  Speaker 9: lead up to election reaching out to all of the
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  Speaker 9: political parties to have some tapeline their position. This is
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  Speaker 9: an issue that matters to millions of New Zealanders and
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  Speaker 9: we think voters deserve to know where the parties stand.
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  Speaker 2: Doctor Alison Vaughan, thank you so much for your time today.
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  Speaker 2: She is the SPCA Senior Scientific Officer. It is now
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  Speaker 2: five twenty three. Headlined in the UK at the moment
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  Speaker 2: is that half of the UK officially in drought. I've
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  Speaker 2: got a boy over there right now. He's doing a
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  Speaker 2: konticky sort of thing, a ticki tour around the whole place.
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  Speaker 2: He says he hasn't seen rain in a month. He's
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  Speaker 2: had one bit of cloud. He's in Scotland. It appears
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  Speaker 2: the only rain happened during the Glasgow one hundred meters
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  Speaker 2: that was held yesterday. It hasn't rained for a month.
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  Speaker 2: Half of the UK officially in drought, and I was
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  Speaker 2: thinking that New Zealand seems quite dry this winter as well,
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  Speaker 2: and certainly where I am and down in the ski areas.
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  Speaker 2: It hasn't been a lot of rain and I started
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  Speaker 2: to worry whether we're heading towards the drought and whether
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  Speaker 2: we have a shortage of water. So like the old
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  Speaker 2: days when we used to have a water crisis in Auckland.
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  Speaker 2: I've gone to the Water Care Dam Total Water Storage website.
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  Speaker 2: Because there's been no rain. How are the lakes ninety
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  Speaker 2: five point three five percent full and the average for
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  Speaker 2: this time of year eighty three point six percent. So
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  Speaker 2: no drought here yet. Five twenty five new SUSYTBM so
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  Speaker 2: the New Zealand government has officially granted the first new
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  Speaker 2: offshore oil and gas exploration permit since reversing its ban.
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  Speaker 2: They've awarded it to Adelaide based Australian explorer Inzian Energy,
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  Speaker 2: So inzid Energy. It's an Australian startup. This is their
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  Speaker 2: first rodeo and they're putting it all on the line.
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  Speaker 2: They get a twelve year petroleum exploration permit for a
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  Speaker 2: five hundred and forty six square kilometer zone. This is
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  Speaker 2: offshore Tlanaki east of the Kupe gas field. Now, Yesterday's
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  Speaker 2: made a lot of the fact that NZ were the
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  Speaker 2: only applicants. But of course others have said that's because
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  Speaker 2: the opposition are still threatening that ban and that that
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  Speaker 2: band could come back, and that's giving explorers cold feet.
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  Speaker 2: Here's where I stand. I have absolutely no problem with expiration,
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  Speaker 2: never have. But I also have no problem with a ban.
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  Speaker 2: What I've always thought is a band can only happen
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  Speaker 2: if New Zealand has a viable replacement plan in place.
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  Speaker 2: When Labor introduced the band, that was not the case.
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  Speaker 2: We cut off our nose to save our face. It
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  Speaker 2: seemed weird, but I also know that based on the
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  Speaker 2: past one hundred and fifty years of expiration, the chances
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  Speaker 2: of a commercially viable find are low. So anyway, I
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  Speaker 2: say good on them and good luck. But when I
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  Speaker 2: was listening to the story yesterday, the takeaway for me
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  Speaker 2: is that the only people who could find the capital
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  Speaker 2: for this sort of work were Australians. No New Zealanders,
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  Speaker 2: No Shell, BP Todd, no, none of that. And I
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  Speaker 2: think that shows up our basic economic weakness. We have
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  Speaker 2: a lack of capital for investment in anything, not just
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  Speaker 2: oil and gas, but for every big idea. We don't
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  Speaker 2: really need to find oil and gain that's all we do,
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  Speaker 2: but we don't. What we really need to find is
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  Speaker 2: a money tree. Sid be fireworks gets you going, it's
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  Speaker 2: a great talkback topic, Carol writes Andrew. If it was
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  Speaker 2: just in November and just for one night, I would
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  Speaker 2: support fireworks, but we've had them let off as recently
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  Speaker 2: as the beginning of July. Gone are the days of
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  Speaker 2: thought for others. Thank you, Carol. I think we are
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  Speaker 2: getting better at this. Meanwhile, another text says morning fireworks
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  Speaker 2: are fun and I barely use What about dogs barking
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  Speaker 2: when I don't like? I don't like the noise and
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  Speaker 2: then I am a dog? And cat owner writes the
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  Speaker 2: texture but it's crazy the way people treat bets these days.
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  Speaker 2: They are amazing, but a couple of days of fireworks seriously,
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  Speaker 2: so it's up and down. Bob reckins, we've had a
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  Speaker 2: dry ash winter, but remember we had a wet summer.
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  Speaker 2: It's all very odd, and George says the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: This year. We haven't had much rain, but we've had
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  Speaker 2: a lot of rain when it has come drought in
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  Speaker 2: the UK. The weather is weird. Let's just accept this.
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  Speaker 2: Fauci Fauchi he evoked the fifth he evoked the fifth
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  Speaker 2: because he says that Ram Paul is always trying to
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: get him into trouble and he's second tired of answering
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: questions he knows it's going to be used against him
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: or does he have something to hide? Wasn't he pardoned
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: by Biden? Is he allowed to actually evoked the fifth? Anyway,
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: we'll talk to Mitch McCann about this. We'll go right
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: around the country and before six we'll talk to a
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: COVID lawyer, Matthew Haig, about the government's response to the
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: COVID inquiry, which with some Peter says is not enough
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the program this Thursday. That's a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of ben name. By the way, Benny has announced that
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  Speaker 2: she's going to be part of Rhythm and Vines they
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: announced the lineup yesterday. I to be fair, don't know
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  Speaker 2: the big headliners at all. But what's it John Summit,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: he's the big name. I didn't know that name, but
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: that's good, that's okay. You don't have to know everything.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: There's another name, Glenn Hansard, which I've mentioned, and some
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: people know Glen Hansard's name and other people don't. He's
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: an Irish guy. He was actually the guitarist in the
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: film The Commitments. He was with a band called The Frames,
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: and there was a film called Once, and he wrote
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: a song called Falling Slowly, which won the Academy Award,
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  Speaker 2: and it's one of the most beautiful songs you'll ever hear.
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  Speaker 2: Sad news Glen Hansard has passed away. He was on
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  Speaker 2: his motor like in Ireland and he died. He had
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  Speaker 2: an accent, beautiful, beautiful song. Glenn, of course the producer
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: for Mike Hoskin. One of his favorite songs one of
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: his favorite movies. The movie was called Once. We've just
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: been looking through the computer to see if the song
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  Speaker 2: is in there. It's not in there. So Glenn is
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: now doing a dig dive to play you Falling Slowly
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  Speaker 2: a bit later on in memory of Glenn Hansard and
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: just a little note. A survey of more than six
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: thousand office and professional workers found that one factor stands
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: out for a good workplace, and that is peace and quiet,
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: or more specifically access to a quiet place for focused
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: work or more specifically an office. Members of high performing
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: teams were fifty two percent more likely to have somewhere
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: that they could concentrate without interruptions. It's called an office.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: The last time I had an office was in the eighties.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: I'm hot dest out. I will love an office.
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  Speaker 1: News talk z be it.
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  Speaker 2: Is twenty two to sex and joining us from Dunedin
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  Speaker 2: to talk about Otago. Calum, good morning to you, Callum
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: yere morning Andrew another man without an office. How's your
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: population in Otago changing?
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  Speaker 13: Well, it's all heading Queenstown's way. Queenstown's growth here is
• 20:17
  Speaker 13: really reshaping this province. Stat's in Z data shows just
• 20:21
  Speaker 13: over half the region's population lived in Dunedin last June,
• 20:25
  Speaker 13: while twenty one percent now live in Queenstown Lake. So
• 20:28
  Speaker 13: that's a big change from three decades ago when nearly
• 20:31
  Speaker 13: two thirds lived in Dunedin and only eight percent were
• 20:34
  Speaker 13: in Queenstown, so projections suggest almost forty percent of residents
• 20:37
  Speaker 13: could be living in Queenstown by twenty fifty. Migration has
• 20:41
  Speaker 13: been driving this growth for Queenstown, while Dnedan's recorded more
• 20:44
  Speaker 13: deaths than births in the last three years, the first
• 20:47
  Speaker 13: New Zealand city to do so. That's concerned our Mayor
• 20:50
  Speaker 13: Sophie bark As. She says it's a concerning trend and
• 20:53
  Speaker 13: growing Dunedin's population is her focus.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: So how cold is it there? What's the weather for
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Otago today?
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  Speaker 13: Are still mild today ahead of a forecast cold snap tomorrow?
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  Speaker 13: Find today clear, high cloud clears this evening, northerlies and fourteen.
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  Speaker 2: And I thank you our clasure. We joined me from
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  Speaker 2: christ Church clear, good morning. We've got another fast track
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: project in Canterbury.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 14: This is the longer waited wood End Bypass. It's the
• 21:17
  Speaker 14: eleven kilometers State Highway one extension that runs from Belfast
• 21:21
  Speaker 14: to Pegasus in North Canterbury. It's been designed to ease
• 21:24
  Speaker 14: congestion and some cut some very heavy traffic which is
• 21:27
  Speaker 14: built up for those communities north of christ Church over
• 21:29
  Speaker 14: recent years. It's only the second roading project to be
• 21:32
  Speaker 14: approved through fast Track process. Infrastructure Minister Chris Bishop says
• 21:37
  Speaker 14: the new road is also going to improve safety, it'll
• 21:40
  Speaker 14: unlock some more growth opportunities in housing and also support
• 21:43
  Speaker 14: economic development, with traffic volumes forecast to reach twenty eight
• 21:47
  Speaker 14: thousand vehicles a day by twenty forty eight. Funding details
• 21:51
  Speaker 14: for the project yet to be confirmed. Of course, it
• 21:54
  Speaker 14: follows yesterday's news that the Pegasus golf Course development has
• 21:57
  Speaker 14: finally started the fast track process, with war Book Properties
• 22:00
  Speaker 14: submitting the application after buying that land controversially in March.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: And how's your weather?
• 22:07
  Speaker 12: Mild? Here too?
• 22:08
  Speaker 14: Should clear to find the mb a bit cloudy by
• 22:11
  Speaker 14: later today northeasterlies and a high sixteen.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Next toll joins us from Wellington. Halimax, Good morning. We've
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: got a story about the Green Party and Metallica. It's
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: a mash up. What happened?
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  Speaker 15: Yes, so look I'll run you through it.
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  Speaker 6: We went.
• 22:23
  Speaker 15: We sent some questions to Tamatha Paul's office this week
• 22:27
  Speaker 15: after noticing that she and the party had up for
• 22:30
  Speaker 15: sale a line of merchandise that was clearly a rip
• 22:33
  Speaker 15: off of the band Metallica T shirts as worn at
• 22:36
  Speaker 15: official party events, on sale for eighty bucks. The iconic
• 22:40
  Speaker 15: white and black Metallica logo now reading Tamatallica in exactly
• 22:44
  Speaker 15: the same font and color style. A direct copy, obviously,
• 22:48
  Speaker 15: but just a spelling change. We wondered if the Party
• 22:50
  Speaker 15: had sought permission echoes of John Key and Eminem. It
• 22:53
  Speaker 15: seems like they hadn't, because as soon as we sent
• 22:55
  Speaker 15: those questions, all of this merchandise was taken down. Also
• 22:59
  Speaker 15: removed AT's cookbook style merchandise as well. The Party, in
• 23:03
  Speaker 15: its response says, quote Tamatha Paul has local artists contributing
• 23:07
  Speaker 15: to her campaign and work in parliament, one of whom
• 23:09
  Speaker 15: designed a heavy metal inspired T shirt for her. The
• 23:13
  Speaker 15: t shirt was not intended to cause confusion with or
• 23:16
  Speaker 15: profit from Metallica trademark content. The t shirt's now been
• 23:20
  Speaker 15: removed to avoid confusion. Very very very silly, an intellectual
• 23:24
  Speaker 15: property lawyer tells us it certainly looked like a potential
• 23:27
  Speaker 15: trademark infringement. You can read the full story by Tabis
• 23:30
  Speaker 15: Macintosh this morning at the Herald.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Don't miss with the Wellington Newsroom is obviously the listen
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: from this and I say, Stephen Joyce says, well, it's
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: probably fairly legal. How's your weather today.
• 23:41
  Speaker 15: Yes, fairly legal, indeed cloudy with showers, northerlyast thirteen.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Nebo let your mind who joins me from Auckland.
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  Speaker 12: Good morning.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: So there was a bit of a meeting yesterday a
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: mongery with the thousand people. What happened there?
• 23:51
  Speaker 12: Yes, Now this is Aucan's Community Health Seector. You can
• 23:54
  Speaker 12: tell it's an election year because this message was for
• 23:56
  Speaker 12: our senior politicians. So the Community Alliance groups to Uhutamaki,
• 24:01
  Speaker 12: they hosted, as you say, andrew more than one thousand people,
• 24:05
  Speaker 12: challenging politicians to sign their commitment to the group's requests. Now,
• 24:09
  Speaker 12: these requests include restoring and funding pay equity gains, also
• 24:13
  Speaker 12: holding an inquiry leading to safest staff to patient ratios.
• 24:17
  Speaker 12: Now we know only the Greens and Opportunity Party were present.
• 24:21
  Speaker 12: Kate Thorn, Saint Matthew and the city priest says, Look,
• 24:24
  Speaker 12: the asks aren't overly optimistic, but they're realistic and practical.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: There's what she says.
• 24:29
  Speaker 12: And Jesus that look, they come at a time, you
• 24:31
  Speaker 12: know from those at the cold face with the solutions
• 24:33
  Speaker 12: as well.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: How's the weather okay?
• 24:35
  Speaker 12: Mainly fine, chance of a shower from midday? Call and
• 24:38
  Speaker 12: crisp today's high sixteen.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: And I thank you neither ready manu it is now
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: seventeen to six and text to me. On ninety two
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: ninety two, somebody said I was nippicking when I talked
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: about the twenty thousand dollars that was spent by the
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Prime Minister on two helicopter flights to Hamilton to go
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: to Mystery Creek and a K Mart hub distribution area. Well,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: in fact, can I just say that this is the
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: stuff's and there are forty one instances of the Prime
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Minister using a helicopter to go to events which are
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: not defense or civil defense arranged, and on average they
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: cost about five to up to ten thousand dollars per trip,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: so that's actually quite a bit of money. So I
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: wasn't really nitpicking. Texas says, can't believe the Prime Minister
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: used the helicopters to get to engagements when we have
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: limousines and drivers sitting around on standby, which was another
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: story of wasteful spending. Somebody says, well, why why are
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: you worrying about this when look what labor wasted last term?
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: And I go, yeah, absolutely, I get that, but you
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: know what source for the goose is also source for
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: the gander. It doesn't matter. Wasteful government spending is wasteful
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: government spending, no matter what the color. And yes, you're
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: quite right, there was a lot of it before. Look,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: you need some good news right now, to be fair
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: or obviously in a period of time, we're all scanning
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: the horizon for good news, good economic stories, because we're
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: all reeling from the long, hard haul. Well here's some.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: It comes from zero. They've gathered some data that show
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: that's sales have gone up eight point six percent in
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: the year to June. It is the strongest growth in
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: almost four years. Agriculture led the way up sixteen point
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: three percent, and construction went up also eleven percent. So
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: things have turned. There is a green shoot, and of
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: course it's now up to you to decide whether that's
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: because of our government or whether it's just a cyclical
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: nature of things. But Halo, we've been down so long,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: I guess the only way is up. It is a
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: quarter to six Newstalk's.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: ABA International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Mind for New Zealand business.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Thirteen to six met mcann out of the states. According
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: to you, good morning, Andrew, what's the latest out of
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: the Middle East. Is that period of limbo that we've
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: been in because the United States ran out of bombs over? Yeah, Yes,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: it's well over.
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: In fact, after four days of a pause and fighting,
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: it's definitely back on. In fact, overnight, Andrew, Saudi Arabia
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: was reluctantly pulled into this war, launching strikes with the
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: US on Iranian back militia inside Iraq, where twenty people died,
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: and that followed a surprise attack it's been called by
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: the US on American basis in the region. Now Donald
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: Trump has responded, perhaps how you might he expect he
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: would respond, Andrew. He told a Fox News reporter, We're
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: going to beat the ifing s out of them in
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: a conversation. So you can imagine the US President extremely
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: unhappy about this. So, yes, the Pawson fighting is well
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: and truly over.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Okay. Meanwhile, Anthony faucis up here before a Senate committee
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: investigating the origins of COVID nineteen and refused to answer questions,
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: saying that the committee's chair, Ran Paul has an unhinged
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: obsession with me. So I guess the question is right now,
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: has he got something to hide or is he right
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: about Senator Paul Well, he says.
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: The only reason that they wanted him to appear today
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: is so that he could incriminate himself in some way.
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: So this Senate committee is investigating the origins of COVID nineteen.
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: Rand Paul says, Fauci and his associates funded research and
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: the lab in China where COVID nineteen emerged from. That's
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: what they say, and they blame Fauci for part of
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: the COVID nineteen pandemic happening in the first place. He
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: believes that they're just trying to incriminate him, so he
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: didn't answer any questions today. It was quite remarkable to watch,
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: but what happens from here is unknown. In fact, Fauci's
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: personal diary was released in recent days, which he sees
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: was in an attempt to simply embarrass him.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: All right, yes, I understood. He took one hundred and
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: eleven times he said, I'm not going to say anything
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: about this match. I thank you. It is eleven minutes to.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Six news talk Zibby.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: So the government's responded to the COVID inquiry, accepting all
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: sixty three recommendations in some forum or another, and it's
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: promising to release the advice behind any major decision affecting
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: kiwi's rights, and they've promised to do that within five days.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: It's also vowed to make emergency support faster, more targeted,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: and also they want to make of course, they want
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: to rebuild the public trust. Here's sa men.
• 28:54
  Speaker 10: The right response is to review existing laws and make
• 28:57
  Speaker 10: sure that for purpose whilst balancing out economic needs, our
• 29:00
  Speaker 10: health response and individual's rights and freedoms.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: All right, so we're joined now by Matthew Haig, who
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: is a COVID lawyer. Good morning to you, Matthew, Good morning,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: and you you're happy with this response? Is this enough?
• 29:11
  Speaker 10: I'm happy with the words that they are using. And
• 29:13
  Speaker 10: I'm sorry this is going to sound cynical, but we
• 29:15
  Speaker 10: had a pandemic response when COVID hit. The problem is
• 29:19
  Speaker 10: the main problems with the previous government's response is they
• 29:21
  Speaker 10: deviated from it.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: So what is the biggest lesson We've learned from that.
• 29:27
  Speaker 10: That governments will do what's politically expedient at the time.
• 29:30
  Speaker 10: And again I don't want to be cynical. The seven
• 29:33
  Speaker 10: action points that the government is saying they will change
• 29:36
  Speaker 10: This is positive stuff. Strengthening the rule of law, protecting
• 29:39
  Speaker 10: fundamental rights. These are good things.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Well, will it stop future governments deviating from the course?
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Is it strong enough to do that?
• 29:50
  Speaker 10: No, that the these are the words future governments. We
• 29:53
  Speaker 10: live in a system with political supremacy. They will do
• 29:56
  Speaker 10: what they want to do. The only thing I think
• 29:58
  Speaker 10: that will the biggest handbreak on future governments is the
• 30:03
  Speaker 10: public backlash when the previous government's resport went too far.
• 30:07
  Speaker 10: I hope that future governments will see that and realize
• 30:10
  Speaker 10: that that kind of thing comes at a political cost.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: The other big thing is, of course, is the advice
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: within five days on stuff, particularly when you're in a
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: national emergency like a pandemic. Would that ease a lot
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: of concern for people?
• 30:22
  Speaker 10: I think again it's a positive step. Transparency is a
• 30:25
  Speaker 10: good thing. What I suspect we will see is if they,
• 30:29
  Speaker 10: as if advisers, know their advice we made public very quickly,
• 30:32
  Speaker 10: it will quite quickly become quite land high level advice,
• 30:37
  Speaker 10: uncontroversial because they know it's going to be publicly released.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Now, there's no doubt that some New Zealanders
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: suffered more heavily than other New Zealanders through the pandemic,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: and Whinston Peter says we need to have more inquiries
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: to review what happened to them. Do you agree with that?
• 30:53
  Speaker 9: I do, And what.
• 30:54
  Speaker 10: I'd really want to see is an inquiry focused on
• 30:56
  Speaker 10: the public health response, not just a political response. We
• 31:00
  Speaker 10: had part of that in the World Commission. But I
• 31:03
  Speaker 10: think a lot of people have a sense of frustration
• 31:05
  Speaker 10: and this COVID response. Talk about rebuilding trust, that's a
• 31:09
  Speaker 10: good thing. We need to rebuild trust, or what about
• 31:11
  Speaker 10: trust in the scientific community, because I think that's really
• 31:15
  Speaker 10: lacking at the moment.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: And where did the scientific community lose public trust? How
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: did they do that?
• 31:22
  Speaker 10: I think that they took a purely scientific response everyone
• 31:26
  Speaker 10: should be vaccinated, vaccine mandates for everyone, without considering all
• 31:30
  Speaker 10: of the non health factors that go with it, the
• 31:32
  Speaker 10: impact of fundamental rights, people's ability to choose. It was
• 31:36
  Speaker 10: the one source of truth. It was an inability to
• 31:40
  Speaker 10: recognize that there could be more than one scientific viewpoint
• 31:44
  Speaker 10: without being a conspiracy theorist or anything like that.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Well, exactly, there was debate about the vaccines, and I
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: saw a lot of evidence about that. What I never
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: saw any evidence about was whether a mandate would actually work.
• 31:57
  Speaker 10: Yes, and look, I think it did it. I think
• 31:59
  Speaker 10: we had an incredible hov vaccination rate. We were always
• 32:01
  Speaker 10: good to have it. The men that it might have
• 32:02
  Speaker 10: increased that slightly, but as we know very clearly now,
• 32:06
  Speaker 10: and the evidence at the time probably vindicated that a
• 32:10
  Speaker 10: there was risk that we weren't been told about, and
• 32:12
  Speaker 10: the vaccine wasn't a perfect solution that did have it
• 32:18
  Speaker 10: short forced Yes.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Well, the search for a perfect solution. I spent my
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: whole life looking for a perfect solution. And I understand that, Matthew.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: But the good thing about this thing is that it's saying, well,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: we didn't get it right, but let's try and get
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: it do it better. It's about learnings. It's about learnings people,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: because this will happen again. Thank you for your time, Matthew.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: It is seven to.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Six Andrew Dickens on early edition with Sparks for Business Technology,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: The Chief's Business Moving News talk z'b.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: So here's some talkback for Piney and Darcied today. If
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: you had to decide today who gets the Halburg is
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: it Ryan Fox or Zoe Hobbs. Ryan last week the
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: best golfer on planet Earth. Zoe yesterday the fastest woman
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: in the Commonwealth. Both have incredible backstories, great achievements. I
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: know where I go, where would.
• 33:02
  Speaker 16: You go make I don't even think it's a contest Ryan.
• 33:06
  Speaker 16: Of course, it's a global event. Gold golf is global.
• 33:10
  Speaker 16: So you've got to have a world championship or a
• 33:12
  Speaker 16: gold medal at the Olympics in the Commonwealth Games. Isn't
• 33:15
  Speaker 16: the Olympics? I mean taking nothing away from Zoe. I mean,
• 33:17
  Speaker 16: if you're going to give it to Zoe, why wouldn't
• 33:19
  Speaker 16: you give it to Clearbett? I mean when golds? I
• 33:21
  Speaker 16: mean is it gold or is it Worlds or is
• 33:24
  Speaker 16: it Olympics? And it has to be Worlds or Olympics.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: I say this because Marcus made a whole program out
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: of this last night, as he said, so he gets
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: the Halberg. I think he did that deliberately.
• 33:35
  Speaker 16: People are because then you go down to a Scott Dixon,
• 33:38
  Speaker 16: for example, if you won Indy, which is what is that?
• 33:42
  Speaker 16: Is that a thing that is worth You know what
• 33:44
  Speaker 16: I'm saying. You know exactly where this is why you
• 33:46
  Speaker 16: don't want to be a judge in the Hellbergs, do you?
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  Speaker 16: Because there's there's no right and.
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  Speaker 2: This is why it's such a great talkback topic.
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  Speaker 16: It's a great talkback topic. COVID will talk to the
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  Speaker 16: Health Minister about that this morning. Mortgages are on the move,
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  Speaker 16: long term money, the old wholesales on the move, and
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  Speaker 16: the walls back on.
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  Speaker 2: It's all, yeah, the war is back on today.
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  Speaker 16: The war is back on today. You're going to keep
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  Speaker 16: up with that.
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  Speaker 2: So it's off now it's on.
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  Speaker 16: So, I mean, it's a daily thing.
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  Speaker 2: And did you hear that Trump's language? Trump's language, and.
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  Speaker 16: He's under pressure.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, oil best. Thank you to producer Can Sick.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for producer Sam.
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