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Reinventing ‘Me Time’ · Outspoken the Podcast

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Speaker 1: This episode has been made possible thanks to our launch partner,
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Speaker 1: Minnie and me, and their incredible Mama Bites, a six-in-one
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Speaker 1: functional snack to nourish feeding mamas. Hello and welcome to
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Speaker 1: the Mums Group. I'm so excited that this is finally
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Speaker 1: out of the group chat because we've been talking about
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Speaker 1: doing this podcast for a very long time now. This
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Speaker 1: is the mum's group that you actually want to be
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Speaker 1: a part of because there's a bit of a stigma
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Speaker 1: around mum's group. I mean, we actually didn't join a
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Speaker 1: mum's group. We kind of just made our own. We
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Speaker 1: had our inbuilt mum's group. There was no point. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but I've been to baby sensory classes and there's always
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Speaker 1: a bit of clickiness going on. My son's just joined
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Speaker 1: a new kinder gym and I kind of feel like
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Speaker 1: I'm back in high school making this weird small talk except...
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Speaker 1: The difference is that you have to completely stop all
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Speaker 1: the time to chase after your kid and you don't
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Speaker 1: even finish a conversation. The worst thing is when you
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Speaker 1: put in all this effort with one of the mums
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Speaker 1: at one of these classes and then you mention something.
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Speaker 1: Like I mentioned, oh, it's like Steph Claire Smith's baby.
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Speaker 1: And the person said to me, who's that? And I
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Speaker 1: was like, oh my goodness, I've wasted all this time.
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Speaker 1: Like you need to know who that is so we
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Speaker 1: can be friends. That's why you've got to find your people.
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Speaker 1: And that's why we've started this podcast because we want
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Speaker 1: to build a community of mums who get it, have
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Speaker 1: a bit of a laugh. Don't take it so seriously.
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Speaker 1: And for those who don't know, we are from the
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Speaker 1: pop culture podcast Outspoken and this podcast is our new baby.
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Speaker 1: We really found like we were talking about a lot
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Speaker 1: of mum things on Outspoken and also you diving into
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Speaker 1: a lot of pop culture stories involving mums and we're like,
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Speaker 1: hold on, not everyone's a mum, not everyone's interested in this.
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Speaker 1: Let's have an actual podcast where we can dive into it,
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Speaker 1: get our teeth into it. Yeah, we have been hosting
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Speaker 1: Outspoken for seven years. I remember when we launched the podcast,
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Speaker 1: people are like, aren't you going to run out of
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Speaker 1: things to say? And no, we are still going strong.
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Speaker 1: I was talking to someone at a first birthday party
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Speaker 1: today and they're like, how many episodes do you put
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Speaker 1: out a week of Outspoken? And I said, three. And
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Speaker 1: they're like, oh my God, how do you find stuff
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Speaker 1: to talk about every week? I'm like, it's pretty easy.
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Speaker 1: There's always someone that does something wrong. There's a lot
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Speaker 1: of stupid influencers out there. Well, the whole reason for
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Speaker 1: Outspoken came about because it was based on what we
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Speaker 1: were talking about in our group chats with our friends
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Speaker 1: and also around dinner. And that's kind of how the
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Speaker 1: mums group has come about, as you said, Sophie, because
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Speaker 1: we're like, we really want to have these conversations and
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Speaker 1: why not share them with other mums? Because while I
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Speaker 1: joked that we made our own mums group up, I
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Speaker 1: was in the trenches by myself for probably a good
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Speaker 1: year before you guys joined me. And it is lonely.
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Speaker 1: That's the thing. When you came to me and said,
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Speaker 1: I think I was pregnant at the time. Amy and
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Speaker 1: I are both pregnant. Our sons are only nine weeks apart.
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Speaker 1: And you're like, I think we should do a mom's
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Speaker 1: podcast where we talk about mom things. And I rang
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Speaker 1: Amy up. I'm like, that sounds fucking boring. Literally, 360,
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Speaker 1: all I talk about is my son and his routine.
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Speaker 1: I have the same conversation with you guys every single
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Speaker 1: day and you indulge me. I mean, not that I'm
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Speaker 1: going to have the same conversation every day on this podcast,
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Speaker 1: but it's actually titillating stuff. Well, I think we should
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Speaker 1: get into properly introducing ourselves. And Kate, we need to
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Speaker 1: kick things off with you because you're the eldest sister.
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Speaker 1: You were the first one of us to become a mom. Look,
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Speaker 1: by a minute, I'm the oldest. But yeah, I have
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Speaker 1: been a mom for nearly two years now to my son, Jack,
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Speaker 1: which is absolutely crazy. It's funny because it's taken a
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Speaker 1: while for some of the Outspoken listeners to realize that
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Speaker 1: we are identical triplets. We have quite similar voices, which
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Speaker 1: makes podcasting a little bit tricky. But hopefully you can
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Speaker 1: tell us apart by now if you are a loyal
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Speaker 1: Outspoken listener. But a lot of people think it's weird
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Speaker 1: being triplets that we have had sons within the space
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Speaker 1: of a year of each other. But it felt like
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Speaker 1: I was waiting forever because Amy, you gave birth to
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Speaker 1: Harry 10 months later. Yeah. And then Sophie had Luca
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Speaker 1: nine weeks after me and everyone said, oh, did you
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Speaker 1: and Sophie plan that? we didn't plan it because Sophie
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Speaker 1: and I run a PR business together. And I remember
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Speaker 1: leading into giving birth to Harry. I was like, this
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Speaker 1: is the worst mistake, us having babies so close together.
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Speaker 1: And did I approve you wrong though? Because now we're like,
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Speaker 1: thank God. Like, I don't think I could have got
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Speaker 1: through this past eight months without you because we literally
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Speaker 1: call each other on the phone every single day. We
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Speaker 1: catch up most days, get the boys together. It was
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Speaker 1: such a long time coming for me though, because we
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Speaker 1: also run our podcast business Outspoken together. And you guys
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Speaker 1: were always like, how come you don't have more time
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Speaker 1: to do the run sheet? Or how come you don't
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Speaker 1: have time to edit? Like what's she doing? He's sleeping.
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Speaker 1: Like just do some work. Like you don't get it
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Speaker 1: until you're in it. You really don't. But now because
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Speaker 1: our sons are all on the same routine, it's amazing
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Speaker 1: because We look after them full time and then we
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Speaker 1: do our work essentially when they're asleep. So we're very
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Speaker 1: lucky to be able to do that. Yeah. And when
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Speaker 1: we have babysitters. Yes, exactly. Shout out to our mums
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Speaker 1: and in-laws for being incredible. I think something that blows
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Speaker 1: a lot of people's minds is that our sons are
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Speaker 1: actually genetically considered half siblings. I saw the Wiggles were
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Speaker 1: talking about this. So the hot Wiggle, I can't think
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Speaker 1: of his name. He's from Justice Crew. Yeah, the purple one.
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Speaker 1: He's got a twin brother and they were saying how
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Speaker 1: they did a TikTok saying, oh, our sons are genetically
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Speaker 1: half brothers. And what cracked me up was that one
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Speaker 1: son is called Harry and the other is called Henry
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Speaker 1: and that's what Soph wanted to call her son Henry
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Speaker 1: but didn't because she thought it was too similar to Harry.
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Speaker 1: Harry is supposed to be the nickname for Henry and
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Speaker 1: I was like, well, we can't have two Henrys essentially. Well,
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Speaker 1: actually you can. Apparently we could have. That's even weirder
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Speaker 1: because they've both got the same surnames. Yeah. Yeah, that
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Speaker 1: is weird. Well, I think a lot of people thought
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Speaker 1: it was weird that we were pregnant at the same
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Speaker 1: time and thought maybe we'd planned it, but we did not.
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Speaker 1: Sophie and I used to go to these shoots for
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Speaker 1: our business and there was one awkward incident where we
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Speaker 1: were dealing with these two men and we were both pregnant,
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Speaker 1: but I looked visibly more pregnant than Sophie. Look, to
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Speaker 1: be fair, I mean, I can say it now that
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Speaker 1: you're no longer pregnant, but you looked quite pregnant the
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Speaker 1: whole time. And for some reason I didn't, which makes
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Speaker 1: sense because your son is in the 95th percentile for weight.
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Speaker 1: Mine was in the 2% off the weight. So we
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Speaker 1: had different pregnancy bodies going on. We had this discussion.
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Speaker 1: Sophie's like, I'm going to tell the men that you're
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Speaker 1: pregnant because they're not going to say anything. And it's
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Speaker 1: awkward because we were like carrying around all this heavy equipment.
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Speaker 1: And Sophie's like, I'm just not going to mention it
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Speaker 1: because it's just too confusing. I couldn't mention that I
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Speaker 1: was pregnant too. I just, I can't mentally deal with
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Speaker 1: this at the moment. Did anyone have that type of
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Speaker 1: body dysmorphia when they were pregnant that they thought they
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Speaker 1: didn't look pregnant? And you know, I was like 30
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Speaker 1: weeks pregnant. I'm like, do people know? Yes. I had
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Speaker 1: that all the time. Because it kind of just looked
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Speaker 1: like I had a bit of a sloppy rig for
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Speaker 1: most of my pregnancy. But Sophie, you never even– like
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Speaker 1: going into the hospital to give birth to Luca, I
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Speaker 1: was like, are they even going to find a baby
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Speaker 1: in there? See, I had a bit of a B-belly
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Speaker 1: going on. That term brings me back to the time
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Speaker 1: you were pregnant, literally. And the only way I felt
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Speaker 1: better about my B-belly was when I realised that Molly
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Speaker 1: May also had a B-belly. Okay, I need to explain
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Speaker 1: what it is. So basically– Is it a belly that
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Speaker 1: looks like a B-shaped? It's either a B-belly or a D-belly. Most–
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Speaker 1: beautiful pregnant bellies of a D shape where it's a
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Speaker 1: beautiful round edge. Mine was a B where it had
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Speaker 1: two bumps happening. And I was very self-conscious. That's why
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Speaker 1: I did not poo bear it around. And you're not
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Speaker 1: talking about like the second bump being boobs. Cause we're
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Speaker 1: quite flat chested. So it's actually, I actually miss my
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Speaker 1: old boobs. I had these, these pregnant boobs. You are
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Speaker 1: not happy with anything. So you always want me to like,
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Speaker 1: literally you complained. I hate my big boobs. Like, and
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Speaker 1: then you're like, I just want them small again. I
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Speaker 1: was just thinking about how we could describe each of
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Speaker 1: us as moms. And I think What comes to mind
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Speaker 1: after hearing you talk, Sophie, for the last two minutes
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Speaker 1: is that you're a glass half empty sort of mother.
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Speaker 1: That's definitely been me throughout the newborn trenches. I have struggled.
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Speaker 1: I'll put it out there. I think we'll probably dive
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Speaker 1: into that in another segment. Sophie and I lived polar
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Speaker 1: opposite postpartum lives. Like I was out at cafes with
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Speaker 1: Harry and Dale. We were living our best lives. Sophie
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Speaker 1: was at home concerned about everything. I do think I
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Speaker 1: had a touch of postpartum depression going on, which we're
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Speaker 1: not going to laugh about that. Well, I'm not laughing
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Speaker 1: about that, but you literally– Our son. Are quite negative.
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Speaker 1: We had a very different experience because I gave birth
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Speaker 1: in the midst of winter. So we. So did I. Yes,
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Speaker 1: but we, well, we didn't want to take him out
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Speaker 1: and about because we were worried about his vaccinations. We
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Speaker 1: also had a son that was only in the 2%
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Speaker 1: off for weight and he had jaundice and also low
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Speaker 1: blood sugar levels. The anxiety that Sophie and Brandon, Brandon's
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Speaker 1: of course your husband, that you held for your dog, Archie,
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Speaker 1: your golden cocker spaniel. That has transferred over to your son, Luca.
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Speaker 1: But they're still anxious about Archie too. They're both my sons.
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Speaker 1: They're both my sons. If I was describing Kate as
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Speaker 1: a mum, I would say that she is like the messiah.
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Speaker 1: Like at any time you have– I was going to
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Speaker 1: say no at all. Thank you. She's Mrs. Golly. We'll
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Speaker 1: call her Mrs. Golly because we've all been religiously doing
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Speaker 1: the Dr. Golly routine, which, side note, is life-changing. Well,
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Speaker 1: Kate nearly passed out because Dr. Golly followed our other podcast, Outspoken,
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Speaker 1: on Instagram. He wants to come on the pod. Well,
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Speaker 1: he hasn't said it in so many words, but you
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Speaker 1: are welcome. My husband thinks that we all have the
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Speaker 1: hots for him. He's like, also, are you interviewing Dr. Golley? Oh,
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Speaker 1: you think he's hot, don't you? I'm like, I don't
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Speaker 1: think he's hot, but it's like anyone calming and explaining
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Speaker 1: it to you. I fucking love the guy. He has
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Speaker 1: such a calming energy. I remember when I first gave
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Speaker 1: birth to Jack, like the weeks after. I was just
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Speaker 1: constantly watching all his videos on his program and he
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Speaker 1: just made me feel better. We are filming this podcast
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Speaker 1: and I thought it'd be funny at some stage to
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Speaker 1: have some bookshelves or some sort of props in the background.
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Speaker 1: And I thought it'd be funny to have Dr. Goldie
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Speaker 1: as like this gold figure in the background. I don't
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Speaker 1: know if that's too far. Brandon's like, you can't do that.
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Speaker 1: I just think any guy in scrubs instantly looks so
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Speaker 1: much better. And also the fact that he's promising to
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Speaker 1: give you sleep, like how can you not look any,
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Speaker 1: like you have to look hot if you're doing that.
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Speaker 1: That's a side note. The absolute unfairness of the fact
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Speaker 1: that when you're giving birth, your husbands all look hot
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Speaker 1: in the scrubs and you're looking the worst you've ever
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Speaker 1: looked in your life. Like what is with that? We
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Speaker 1: spoke about this briefly in my birth episode on Outspoken
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Speaker 1: and it was the fact that Dale had recorded some
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Speaker 1: snippets of me being wheeled in to have Harry and
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Speaker 1: like normally he doesn't film anything. I thought that's nice
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Speaker 1: of him to capture this memory. It was not. I
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Speaker 1: had a hairnet on. I looked absolutely terrible. I think
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Speaker 1: when you become a mum, that's when you realise how
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Speaker 1: hopeless your partner is at actually capturing content. I've seen
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Speaker 1: all those TikToks going around about how your husband ended
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Speaker 1: up looking like the greatest father on earth and a
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Speaker 1: single father because there are just no video content of
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Speaker 1: you looking after your child. Why the only time do
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Speaker 1: they think to take vision of you is when you
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Speaker 1: look your absolute worst as well? Like, oh, here's you
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Speaker 1: in your pajamas with not a scaric of makeup on.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to pick up the phone and film you
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Speaker 1: from the most unflattering angle possible. The other day we
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Speaker 1: were putting Harry down to sleep and we had the
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Speaker 1: red light on. It was very low light and Dale
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Speaker 1: started trying to take video. I said, caption and then
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Speaker 1: you say you say oh stop doing this like oh
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Speaker 1: no wonder I never asked yeah and then they say
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Speaker 1: no wonder I never take a photo of you yeah
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Speaker 1: I've just started taking behind the scenes style content of
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Speaker 1: you guys when you're parenting because I'm like I think
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Speaker 1: I'd be much better at that oh my god that
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Speaker 1: just reminds me Sophie you shot potentially the worst video
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Speaker 1: I've ever seen of myself I had just given birth
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Speaker 1: to Jack like I think it was day two at
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Speaker 1: the hospital and you'd kindly brought sombreros in for me
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Speaker 1: which was like my my special meal like I love
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Speaker 1: the bowls there you look so And you're like, oh
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Speaker 1: my God, you look so cute. Let me get this
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Speaker 1: vision of you. I honestly nearly passed out recently when
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Speaker 1: I saw the vision. I was like, that is, I
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Speaker 1: think I, I'm sure. Cause I had a cesarean. We
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Speaker 1: actually all did. Elective. Elective cesarean. That's another whole topic, but.
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Speaker 1: I think they must pump you with a lot of fluids.
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Speaker 1: They do. I mean, I think I held a lot
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Speaker 1: of fluid in my face anyway. I had cankles. The
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Speaker 1: day after, I literally had the biggest cankles for four days.
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Speaker 1: You know how everyone films the video, like the hot
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Speaker 1: dad walking through the hospital? Yeah. I really want to
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Speaker 1: do a video where it shows the other view and
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Speaker 1: it's you like walking with your bags, hobbling down, looking
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Speaker 1: like absolute trash. The depleted mum. Yeah. I mean, we
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Speaker 1: went through the public system and we were kicked out.
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Speaker 1: I was in hospital less than 48 hours after having
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Speaker 1: my cesarean. I could barely walk out. No one even
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Speaker 1: offered me a wheelchair. It was funny. I mean, I
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Speaker 1: had a, I do need to point out. It was
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Speaker 1: actually fantastic. the healthcare system and the fact that we
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Speaker 1: didn't have to pay for anything. I think I paid
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Speaker 1: like $ 20 for opioids, but it did feel like you
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Speaker 1: were kind of discarded to like, get out of the room.
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Speaker 1: There's no wheelchair for you. Just, you know, move on.
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Speaker 1: I remember having to stop at the chemist to go
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Speaker 1: and get my opioids. And I was standing there and
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking, I wonder like, cause no one let me
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Speaker 1: sit down. I thought, I wonder if this old man
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Speaker 1: realizes that I gave birth two days ago. Just had
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Speaker 1: major surgery. Do you ever do that? You'll go to
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Speaker 1: the shop and you'll be like, I People know that
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Speaker 1: I'm a mother now. I literally say, I think it
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Speaker 1: was the first time I got out of the house,
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Speaker 1: it was like a week or two in and I
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Speaker 1: went to the fish and chip shop with my mother-in-law.
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Speaker 1: It was like a bit of a treat to get out. Oh,
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Speaker 1: because going out in the car by yourself becomes an
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Speaker 1: absolute treat, even just to get takeaway. We're going to
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Speaker 1: get into that more a bit later. I got out
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Speaker 1: and I could barely string a sentence together and I
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Speaker 1: just thought, yeah, does anyone know that I'm a mum?
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Speaker 1: You're just like ordering, I have a baby. I'm a mum. Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about the perspective shift
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Speaker 1: that happens when you become a mum. So US content creator,
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Speaker 1: Sam Dole, she was talking about this recently and I
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Speaker 1: could not relate to this more. So she was basically
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Speaker 1: saying that motherhood has reframed all of her old shit
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Speaker 1: memories to be the best time ever. Let's have a
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Speaker 1: listen to what she said.
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Speaker 2: You have things you took for granted, like taken away.
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Speaker 2: Back at even the most mundane moments of my life
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Speaker 2: where I was like, this kind of sucks. And it
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Speaker 2: like in my memory is amazing. Like imagine I could
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Speaker 2: just be hung over in bed all day. Like at
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Speaker 2: the time, probably.
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Speaker 1: Well, I know not probably. I know.
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Speaker 2: I was like, oh my God, I'm a fucking loser.
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Speaker 2: I need to stop this shit.
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Speaker 1: I do this all the time. I am sick in
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Speaker 1: the head. I go back. I scroll back through my
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Speaker 1: photos to see what I was doing a year ago,
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Speaker 1: two years ago, three years ago. And I romanticize everything.
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Speaker 1: When I first saw this, I thought this sounds really depressing.
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Speaker 1: And a lot of people in the comment section were saying, wow,
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Speaker 1: this makes me not want to have kids. So you're
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Speaker 1: saying your shit depressing life is like being in a
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Speaker 1: movie compared to having... I actually think it is a
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Speaker 1: good thing because if you think about it, okay, you're
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Speaker 1: in the trenches for the first couple of years, but
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Speaker 1: when your kids go to school, you get that time
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Speaker 1: back and And then you actually enjoy those small things
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Speaker 1: in life that you took for granted because you've got
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Speaker 1: the perspective. Well, that's exactly what Sam Dole was talking about.
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Speaker 1: Let's have a listen to the rest of what she said.
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Speaker 2: Having a kid has made my entire life beautiful. Not
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Speaker 2: just the kid, okay, bonus, the kid we love. Look
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Speaker 2: back at like tough times before I had a baby
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Speaker 2: and the perspective I have is just like, wow, that
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Speaker 2: was actually amazing. I had an amazing life and I
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Speaker 2: also am continuing to have one because now in this
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Speaker 2: new phase, not so focused on things that I was
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Speaker 2: focused on before, like I got the shift I want.
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Speaker 2: I'm getting to keep all the memories even better than
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Speaker 2: they were. were before. They're also painted with this added
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Speaker 2: freedom I no longer have, which sounds sad, but I
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Speaker 2: don't want it. But when you do get it, like
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Speaker 2: let's say you have a babysitter for a night or something,
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Speaker 2: night out is so much better than it would have
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Speaker 2: been before. Before it was like, okay, I need nights
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Speaker 2: and night out. Now I am so thrilled by the
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Speaker 2: most simple thing. I'm happier because of it. I'm happier
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Speaker 2: because everything is simple and everything, I don't know, everything
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Speaker 2: makes me happy.
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Speaker 1: It is so true. It just makes me think how
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Speaker 1: funny it is. Like you literally feel like you're reverting
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Speaker 1: back to your teenage years or your childhood when you
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Speaker 1: had to ask your parents if you could go do something.
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Speaker 1: Because now it's like, oh, you know, Valentine's Day a
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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, Rhys had to ask his parents
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Speaker 1: if they could come over and babysit. And it's just
15:01
Speaker 1: so funny. You feel like these little kids sneaking out
15:03
Speaker 1: of the house and I'm sorry, I'll be back at
15:05
Speaker 1: this time. But the good thing as well is that
15:07
Speaker 1: some things that you would have instantly said, oh no,
15:09
Speaker 1: I'm not going to that. You're like, oh my God,
15:11
Speaker 1: I'll go. Like we got invited to a friend's event
15:14
Speaker 1: and it was out at a nightclub on Hindley Street.
15:16
Speaker 1: Never would ever want to go normally. And we were like, yeah,
15:18
Speaker 1: we'll come along. Yeah, he got dressed up. Everyone was like, oh,
15:22
Speaker 1: we didn't think you'd come because, you know, you've got
15:24
Speaker 1: your babies. And we're like, look, it's a night out.
15:27
Speaker 1: Don't you sometimes just want to go and shake your
15:29
Speaker 1: old self though? Like I'll get these memories pop up
15:31
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you lazy bastard. Like, you know what
15:35
Speaker 1: I mean? Like the sleep in. Also, I'm like, why
15:37
Speaker 1: was my house not cleaner? Like I feel like my
15:39
Speaker 1: house was almost tidier now. But even with our business,
15:42
Speaker 1: I'm like, why didn't we just film every week? Like
15:44
Speaker 1: we had all the time in the world. Like, Well,
15:46
Speaker 1: I saw Jade Tunchi. She's an influencer who's now got
15:49
Speaker 1: two kids under two. And she was talking about the
15:52
Speaker 1: pure thrill of her going out to the petrol station
15:56
Speaker 1: to get toilet paper. So she compared this experience to
15:59
Speaker 1: going to a day spa. Let's have a quick listen
16:01
Speaker 1: to what she said.
16:03
Speaker 3: I can't tell you how relaxed I am. I don't
16:05
Speaker 3: want to get out of the car. I'm going to
16:06
Speaker 3: stay right here. I'm going to stay right here. I'm
16:08
Speaker 3: going to get the toilet paper. I'm going to get
16:10
Speaker 3: a snack. I'm going to get a drink. I'm going
16:12
Speaker 3: to get a little post-spa drink. And sit in the
16:14
Speaker 3: car for another five to ten.
16:16
Speaker 1: Stunning. Now, Kate, I'm going to say this on the
16:19
Speaker 1: podcast because I've not told you this story before. It
16:22
Speaker 1: was so funny. My husband rolled into the coals in
16:26
Speaker 1: the hills and we– Oh, did he see me or something? No,
16:29
Speaker 1: not you. Oh, Rhys. So we lived ten minutes away.
16:33
Speaker 1: He saw Rhys in the car and he texted him saying, hey, Rhys,
16:35
Speaker 1: I'm just in the car park with you. He didn't
16:37
Speaker 1: get a response for ages. He just saw Rhys on
16:39
Speaker 1: his phone flinging away. To be fair, it might have
16:41
Speaker 1: been during Jack's nap time. Like I don't care what
16:43
Speaker 1: he's doing during the nap time. No, he wasn't. It wasn't.
16:45
Speaker 2: Yeah.
16:46
Speaker 1: So he was sitting there. He was, you know, delaying
16:48
Speaker 1: it a little bit. But I thought I could relate
16:49
Speaker 1: to that because when I think it was the first
16:52
Speaker 1: couple of months, it was literally a fight for who
16:56
Speaker 1: would go and get the takeaway on a Friday night.
16:58
Speaker 1: Or go to do the supermarket run. I was like,
16:59
Speaker 1: it's my turn to do it. And usually I'd be like, ah,
17:03
Speaker 1: you go, you go. Because we'd be so worried that
17:05
Speaker 1: he'd wake up. Anytime you'd put the key in the door,
17:08
Speaker 1: you're getting back with the takeaway.
17:09
Speaker 2: Yeah.
17:09
Speaker 1: Rolls around it's even a fight who gets to go
17:12
Speaker 1: hang out the laundry because you're just like I would
17:14
Speaker 1: like to go listen to my podcast a lot of
17:17
Speaker 1: the people in Jada's comment section they were talking about
17:21
Speaker 1: things that were once these mundane tasks that now were
17:23
Speaker 1: seen as treats and one of them said I get
17:25
Speaker 1: a colonoscopy every two years. Best sleep of my life.
17:29
Speaker 1: Another person said, I had a postpartum hemorrhage with my
17:32
Speaker 1: third a few weeks after his birth. And they said
17:35
Speaker 1: that the wait would be four hours. I said, make
17:37
Speaker 1: it five and I can read my book in peace.
17:40
Speaker 1: And lastly, one woman wrote, I had a mole removed
17:42
Speaker 1: on my neck and a cyst cut out of my scalp.
17:44
Speaker 1: Had some stitches. It was so nice to have me time.
17:47
Speaker 1: Oh my God, this is me. So I'm having to
17:49
Speaker 1: get my ganglion cyst removed. You might be able to
17:51
Speaker 1: see it on camera. I'm a bit sensitive about it.
17:54
Speaker 1: I actually wore a wristband the other day and Brandon's like,
17:56
Speaker 1: are you actually wearing that? What, like a sweatband that
17:58
Speaker 1: you wear for tennis? Yeah, he's like, that looks more embarrassing. Anyway,
18:01
Speaker 1: I had to go to a specialist appointment last week
18:03
Speaker 1: and he said, oh, you're going to have to have
18:05
Speaker 1: an MRI. And usually I'd be like, oh, for fuck's sake.
18:07
Speaker 1: But I was like, perfect. I said, that's a bit
18:08
Speaker 1: of a lie down, isn't it? How long would that take?
18:10
Speaker 1: Over the Christmas break, Dale ended up hurting his back,
18:13
Speaker 1: like his back popped. And the other day when he
18:16
Speaker 1: was putting Harry down, he's like, oh, my back feels
18:18
Speaker 1: a bit tender. And I said, listen, if anyone's back's
18:21
Speaker 1: going out next, it's mine because I'd like to have
18:23
Speaker 1: four days of lying down, please. I'm a bit jealous
18:25
Speaker 1: because my husband's having his wisdom teeth taken out this
18:28
Speaker 1: week coming. And I'm like, oh, God, now I'm going
18:30
Speaker 1: to have to look after two babies because, I mean,
18:33
Speaker 1: to his credit, he never complains about anything. He said
18:35
Speaker 1: he should be fine. But if it was me, I'd
18:38
Speaker 1: probably milk it, to be honest. Now makeup brand L'Oreal,
18:42
Speaker 1: they are renowned for their tagline, you're worth it. But
18:46
Speaker 1: one Aussie mum, she has a saying I can relate
18:48
Speaker 1: to even more and it's, you're not worth it. And
18:52
Speaker 1: this is in relation to any person or plans that
18:54
Speaker 1: come between your child and their nap time. Let's have
18:58
Speaker 1: a listen to what she said. It's not worth it
19:03
Speaker 1: because it will f * * * me for three days.
19:05
Speaker 1: If I f * * * one night time routine, generalised,
19:10
Speaker 1: It will f * * k the.
19:11
Speaker 2: Night, which means it will f * * k her sleep,
19:13
Speaker 2: which means it will f * * k Rosie after
19:14
Speaker 2: her nap the next day.
19:16
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more on this one. And I have
19:18
Speaker 1: a bone to pick with you, Sophie, on air. What?
19:21
Speaker 1: Because I remember when Jack– I think it was this
19:23
Speaker 1: time last year. I actually got a memory on my phone.
19:26
Speaker 1: We were meant to be going down to this cafe
19:28
Speaker 1: in Adelaide that's near the beach, Nest. And you live
19:32
Speaker 1: like five– to 10 minutes away from me. And I said, Soph,
19:35
Speaker 1: can you please drive with me? Because Jack will fall
19:38
Speaker 1: asleep on the car and it's going to fuck over
19:39
Speaker 1: my whole afternoon if he does. He wasn't a baby
19:42
Speaker 1: that would transfer into his cot from the car seat.
19:45
Speaker 1: You're like, I'm not being put out. I'll just meet
19:47
Speaker 1: you there. Oh my God. i was pregnant i was
19:51
Speaker 1: tired of course jack fell asleep in the car and
19:54
Speaker 1: it took me an hour and a half to get
19:56
Speaker 1: him to sleep is it though that you can have
19:58
Speaker 1: a baby in a dark room you've got the white
20:02
Speaker 1: noise going you've got the perfect sleep environment and they
20:05
Speaker 1: will not go to sleep but anytime i've got harry
20:07
Speaker 1: in the car I will have music blaring. Like one
20:10
Speaker 1: time I was trying to keep him awake before his
20:12
Speaker 1: nap and I was literally screaming the wiggles, choo-choo, chugga-chugga,
20:16
Speaker 1: shaking his seat. And he's Just asleep. I've got a
20:18
Speaker 1: good one. So that day, for some reason, I'd bought
20:21
Speaker 1: like a roll of wrapping paper. I think it was
20:23
Speaker 1: Christmas paper. And Jack was in the back. And I
20:24
Speaker 1: was just like reaching over and like poking him with
20:27
Speaker 1: the wrapping paper. Oh, I've got a squeaker. I just
20:29
Speaker 1: squeaked this toy the whole time. So much that they
20:31
Speaker 1: spray their kid with a bottle. I was like, that's
20:33
Speaker 1: a joke. No, with a water pistol. I actually think
20:35
Speaker 1: that's a great idea. It's a bit cruel. But getting
20:38
Speaker 1: back to this whole nap time and the sacredness of it,
20:42
Speaker 1: I also don't understand those parents who are like, oh,
20:44
Speaker 1: it's fine. We'll just do nap time in the car. No, no, no.
20:48
Speaker 1: Naptime is my time for me to sit down, either
20:50
Speaker 1: get on my computer, do my work, have something to eat,
20:53
Speaker 1: put some TV on. You know, you don't want them
20:55
Speaker 1: with you whilst they're napping. I have seen people say
20:57
Speaker 1: that if their kid falls asleep in the car, they'll
21:00
Speaker 1: go through the drive-through, they'll have a little meal, they'll
21:02
Speaker 1: listen to a podcast. I mean, I get that. Sometimes
21:05
Speaker 1: you just have to. I think with us, because we
21:08
Speaker 1: get our work done in their naptime, that's why there's
21:10
Speaker 1: so much pressure on making sure they actually have that
21:13
Speaker 1: nap because it will just set you back so much.
21:17
Speaker 1: Let's get into our segment, Iconic or Unhinged. So we're
21:20
Speaker 1: going to be bringing you a story from the community
21:23
Speaker 1: and we need to work out if their behavior at
21:25
Speaker 1: the time was iconic or unhinged. And because it's our
21:28
Speaker 1: first episode today, I'm going to share a story of
21:30
Speaker 1: my own. So you guys need to work out if
21:32
Speaker 1: it was iconic or unhinged behavior. So when Harry was
21:35
Speaker 1: a few weeks old, Dale and I decided to go
21:37
Speaker 1: on this beautiful family walk and I notoriously take a
21:41
Speaker 1: long time to go to the toilet, get myself sorted.
21:44
Speaker 1: So Dale was like, I'll wait for you out the
21:45
Speaker 1: front with Harry. So after about five minutes of farting around,
21:49
Speaker 1: I went outside and I see the pram sitting there
21:52
Speaker 1: and no Dale. And I thought, okay, well, Dale must've
21:55
Speaker 1: taken Harry with him. I look in the pram, Harry
21:58
Speaker 1: is just sitting there staring at me. And for, you know,
22:01
Speaker 1: people won't know where I live, but it's quite an
22:04
Speaker 1: open street. There's people walking by. And I thought, oh
22:07
Speaker 1: my God, Harry could have easily just been pinched. So
22:10
Speaker 1: I thought I'm going to teach Dale a lesson And
22:12
Speaker 1: I took the pram and we hid behind the fence
22:15
Speaker 1: out the front. And I watched through the little gap.
22:17
Speaker 1: I saw Dale come out the side and he looked
22:21
Speaker 1: so shocked. He was like looking around frantically. And I said, daddy,
22:25
Speaker 1: we're over here. And he was like, you dickhead. And
22:29
Speaker 1: I said, no. This is going to ensure that you never,
22:32
Speaker 1: ever do this again. He could have easily been taken. Now,
22:34
Speaker 1: is that iconic behavior or unhinged? I actually think it's
22:36
Speaker 1: a bit unhinged. Really? Yeah. I mean, tricking that your
22:40
Speaker 1: child's been abducted. Fuck me. I actually think it's iconic
22:44
Speaker 1: because knowing Dale, I think that would really have shaken
22:46
Speaker 1: him up and he wouldn't do it again. I mean,
22:48
Speaker 1: has he done it again? No, he's never done it again.
22:51
Speaker 1: And The worst thing was he was actually being quite helpful.
22:53
Speaker 1: He was going to get the laundry, like the laundry
22:55
Speaker 1: had just finished. I was like, just pick him up
22:57
Speaker 1: and take him with you. I remember you saying that
23:00
Speaker 1: you were out. I think you had a shoot on
23:02
Speaker 1: or something for work and Dale was looking after Harry
23:05
Speaker 1: and you were talking on the phone to him and
23:06
Speaker 1: he's like, oh yeah, I'm just like sorting through the
23:08
Speaker 1: freezer to get some food out. And then you're like,
23:10
Speaker 1: where's Harry? He's like, oh, he's just on the swing outside.
23:12
Speaker 1: I know, I was like, no, you need to watch him.
23:14
Speaker 1: My husband is the complete opposite though. I mean, you
23:16
Speaker 1: touched on the fact that we've been over the top
23:18
Speaker 1: with our first son, Archie, who was a Golden Cocker Spaniel.
23:21
Speaker 1: we joked that Archie and Luca should be in bubbles
23:24
Speaker 1: because we're that over the top. Like if Brandon needs
23:27
Speaker 1: to go to the toilet, instead of leaving Archie, I
23:29
Speaker 1: was about to say Archie, Instead of putting your son
23:33
Speaker 1: in the playpen, he will put him in his cot
23:35
Speaker 1: because he knows that the baby monitor so he can
23:39
Speaker 1: watch him. I said, I just put him in the
23:41
Speaker 1: playpen if I need to go to the toilet. The
23:42
Speaker 1: amount of times I have held on to Harry whilst
23:45
Speaker 1: on the toilet, I can't now he's over 12 kilos.
23:47
Speaker 1: I've actually never done that. I have never had Luca
23:50
Speaker 1: on me whilst going to the toilet because I was
23:51
Speaker 1: more worried about dropping him when I was on the toilet.
23:53
Speaker 1: But your husband also works from home the majority of
23:56
Speaker 1: the time. So I think when you are home alone,
23:58
Speaker 1: like Amy and I most of the time, You have
24:01
Speaker 1: to take them to the toilet. It's survival mode. Yeah,
24:03
Speaker 1: now that Jack's a toddler and he's running around himself,
24:06
Speaker 1: I have to like sort of lure him in by
24:07
Speaker 1: opening one of the drawers on the cabinet. So he
24:10
Speaker 1: starts looking through like the medicine drawer. I watch him
24:13
Speaker 1: very closely, but it kind of occupies him. See, we've
24:15
Speaker 1: only got like a little, it's kind of like a
24:17
Speaker 1: closet is our toilet, you know what I mean? It's
24:18
Speaker 1: a really small toilet. Yeah, but you hold them when
24:21
Speaker 1: they're Luke's age. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get that. Well,
24:23
Speaker 1: because you guys couldn't agree whether my behaviour was iconic
24:26
Speaker 1: or unhinged, I think we need to put it to
24:27
Speaker 1: the community. We're going to put a poll on our
24:29
Speaker 1: Instagram page. And we'd love to hear all of your
24:32
Speaker 1: unhinged or iconic moments. Please DM us your stories, either
24:35
Speaker 1: with a voice note or just write it down. I
24:38
Speaker 1: love the voice notes though. I feel like for stories
24:40
Speaker 1: like that, we want to hear directly from you guys.
24:42
Speaker 1: Here's a mum hack for you. I don't like to
24:44
Speaker 1: send voice notes because I'm not a Gen Zer and
24:46
Speaker 1: I feel like a bit of a wanker. So instead,
24:48
Speaker 1: I will click the microphone on my text messaging thing
24:51
Speaker 1: and I will just speak what I want the text
24:53
Speaker 1: message to say. It'll dictate the whole thing and I'll
24:55
Speaker 1: send it. And Brandon will be like, what are you
24:57
Speaker 1: This annoyed me because we had a miscommunication about this
25:01
Speaker 1: because you didn't spell one of our friends' names correctly.
25:04
Speaker 1: And you're like, oh, do you want to catch up
25:05
Speaker 1: with her? And I got the person confused and I
25:07
Speaker 1: was like, no, I don't think so. And then I
25:08
Speaker 1: missed out on going out to dinner with her. Well,
25:10
Speaker 1: it's not completely foolproof. You do have to read over
25:12
Speaker 1: it before you send it, but it is such a
25:14
Speaker 1: good time hack. And to the listeners that are sending
25:17
Speaker 1: a voice note, I don't think you're a wanker. No, no, no, no, no, no.
25:20
Speaker 1: I mean, we've requested them. It's more like if you
25:22
Speaker 1: just get this rogue voice note from a friend. I
25:25
Speaker 1: love that. I think that's so cool. I like it.
25:27
Speaker 1: But for some reason, I feel like I'm not cool
25:29
Speaker 1: enough to do it. That's the thing. We're not cool enough.
25:32
Speaker 1: But the friends that have voice noted us. But also,
25:33
Speaker 1: you kind of don't want to be overheard. Like if
25:35
Speaker 1: you're around people. God, my husband is pissing me off.
25:42
Speaker 1: Let's get into our recommendations. And mine is the snotty boss.
25:45
Speaker 1: So It is a device that sucks the snot out
25:49
Speaker 1: of your children's noses. We actually call it the snotty
25:52
Speaker 1: gobbler in our household because our mum legitimately thought that
25:56
Speaker 1: that's what its name was. We were like, oh, we've
25:58
Speaker 1: just got the snotty boss out. Oh, that's a snotty gobbler.
26:01
Speaker 1: Is that the Timu version of it? I think we
26:03
Speaker 1: should copyright that name because I would totally buy that
26:06
Speaker 1: if it was called the snotty gobbler. Now, the reason
26:07
Speaker 1: it's my recommendation is because it was probably one of
26:09
Speaker 1: our most used medical devices in the first couple of
26:13
Speaker 1: weeks of, well, first couple of months of Luca's life.
26:15
Speaker 1: This is coming from the anxious parents. It was Brandon's
26:17
Speaker 1: favorite thing to do. Not to be revolting because now
26:20
Speaker 1: I've turned into that person, but we would get the
26:23
Speaker 1: biggest snot out of his eyes. We would take photos
26:25
Speaker 1: and send it to everyone. It's that epic. It's satisfying,
26:28
Speaker 1: isn't it? And now we don't get much out of him.
26:30
Speaker 1: It's so disappointing. I remember discovering that there were these
26:33
Speaker 1: sort of manual devices where you actually had to suck
26:35
Speaker 1: the snot out or worse, Some women were saying that
26:39
Speaker 1: they just, and no shade if you've done this because,
26:41
Speaker 1: you know, you've got to do what you've got to do,
26:42
Speaker 1: but have used their mouth to suck snot out of
26:44
Speaker 1: their baby's nose. I did ask. I think I asked
26:46
Speaker 1: my in-laws and they said they'd just try and get
26:48
Speaker 1: their finger. Like, you know, they didn't have all the devices.
26:49
Speaker 1: I remember mum was like, oh, I don't even, we
26:51
Speaker 1: didn't even do that. We were just like gasping for
26:54
Speaker 1: air the whole time. As the baby monitor was turned
26:57
Speaker 1: off overnight. Well, you know, back then it was, yeah.
26:59
Speaker 1: I mean, we actually, mum didn't have a baby monitor
27:02
Speaker 1: as such. It was a voice thing. Well, it wasn't video. No. No. But,
27:06
Speaker 1: I mean, back then it was just shut the door
27:08
Speaker 1: and let them cry it out. Yeah, mum's like, oh,
27:09
Speaker 1: the best advice I ever got from a friend was
27:11
Speaker 1: just to turn the baby monitor off. And I'm like,
27:13
Speaker 1: that actually apparently creates a lot of issues. Psychological damage.
27:17
Speaker 1: Is that why we're all done? It explains a bit.
27:19
Speaker 1: It's attachment issues or something. It's funny because there was
27:22
Speaker 1: like a power outage and my baby monitor wasn't working. Amy,
27:25
Speaker 1: you were over at my house. And it was really
27:27
Speaker 1: weird because I'm like, oh, I'll just have to go
27:28
Speaker 1: in and keep checking on him. And I was like, wow,
27:31
Speaker 1: it's so quiet. So caveman, like. Yeah. So my recommendation
27:35
Speaker 1: is to go and follow Megan McKenna on Instagram and TikTok.
27:39
Speaker 1: And I had completely forgotten about her. So she was
27:41
Speaker 1: on Ex on the Beach, The Only Way is Essex. Oh,
27:44
Speaker 1: she was an iconic character on TOWIE, wasn't she? She
27:46
Speaker 1: just go and abuse everyone. And she's become a mum now.
27:50
Speaker 1: Her son's a similar age, or a little bit younger
27:52
Speaker 1: than Jack. I'm guessing she has a bit of mum
27:54
Speaker 1: rage going on. No, she doesn't. She She's turned into,
27:57
Speaker 1: like all of her content is her cooking meals for
27:59
Speaker 1: her son. His name is Landon. At first I thought
28:01
Speaker 1: she said his name was London and I was like, oh,
28:03
Speaker 1: that's odd because she lives in London. No, Landon. And
28:07
Speaker 1: it's hilarious because so many of them go viral because
28:09
Speaker 1: of the kids' reactions. So She was making him spaghetti
28:12
Speaker 1: bolognese the other day and she had grated all of
28:15
Speaker 1: this Parmesan cheese. And while she was talking to the
28:17
Speaker 1: camera about how nutritious the meal was, the son was
28:20
Speaker 1: taking handfuls of Parmesan cheese and she had no idea.
28:23
Speaker 1: He would have eaten so much of it. But that's
28:25
Speaker 1: quite high in sodium, isn't it?
28:27
Speaker 3: Yeah.
28:27
Speaker 1: And she's like, oh my God, how has he eaten
28:29
Speaker 1: all of this? But she's hilarious. You've got to follow her.
28:31
Speaker 1: When I was thinking about my recommendation, I'm like, bring
28:33
Speaker 1: something to the podcast that you've actually used every day
28:35
Speaker 1: since your son's been born. I'm like, well, what is that?
28:38
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, my Il Tutto chair. Like, I
28:41
Speaker 1: ended up getting the electronic recliner one. I was like
28:44
Speaker 1: tossing up. I'm like, do I actually need this fancy chair?
28:46
Speaker 1: Like do people actually use it? I lived in that
28:49
Speaker 1: chair for the first six months of my son's life.
28:52
Speaker 1: I was breastfeeding and I was reading books. I love
28:55
Speaker 1: that you could just, you know, you know, if Jack
28:57
Speaker 1: fell asleep on me, I could press the button and I'd,
28:59
Speaker 1: recline backwards like it is so comfortable I think also
29:02
Speaker 1: if you've had a c-section it's a really good chair
29:05
Speaker 1: to sit in as well in those first couple of
29:06
Speaker 1: weeks yeah so if you're wondering whether you should get
29:09
Speaker 1: the bougie chair yes get it I was very lucky
29:12
Speaker 1: to be gifted this chair but I would definitely buy
29:14
Speaker 1: it myself if I was a first-time mom well you
29:16
Speaker 1: think about how long you use the chair for yeah
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Speaker 1: the lifetime of the chair like it is still going
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Speaker 1: strong it still looks brand new especially if you're going
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Speaker 1: to have a couple of kids as well yeah and
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Speaker 1: then after you've had the kids I'm going to bring
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Speaker 1: it out into my lounge room. I love that chair.
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Speaker 1: They're very aesthetically pleasing as well. Well, that is all
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Speaker 1: we have time for today. The Mums Group is officially out. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we've got to get home to our children. I made
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Speaker 1: a joke off mic to you earlier, Amy, that it
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Speaker 1: was a genius idea coming up with this second podcast.
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Speaker 1: It gives us a little bit of me time. I'm
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Speaker 1: really looking forward to the drive home. As Sophie said,
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Speaker 1: we might go through the drive-through, reward ourselves. Our husbands
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Speaker 1: are currently at home with our kids and it's just
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Speaker 1: given me a new topic for next week. Those husbands
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Speaker 1: that say that they're babysitting their own children. We need
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Speaker 1: to dive into that. Do you know what I'm going
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Speaker 1: to do when I get home just as payback? I'm
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Speaker 1: going to go, sorry, do you mind if I just
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Speaker 1: go to the toilet and get changed and then spend
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Speaker 1: 10 minutes scrolling on my phone? Perfect. Maybe just sit
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Speaker 1: in the driveway on your phone. A bit of payback
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Speaker 1: for that Coles scrolling session from my husband. Now, don't
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Speaker 1: say anything to him about it because- Well, he's going
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Speaker 1: to listen to this podcast. All right. Sorry, Reese. Sorry
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Speaker 1: for adding you there. Well, thank you again for joining
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