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The Doomsday Clock | ‘Medical News’ with Dr. Jim Keany · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: You're list Saints k I AM six forty The bill
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  Speaker 1: forty bill Handle Here on a Wednesday morning, January twenty eighth,
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  Speaker 1: the Secretary of State Marco Rubio is now testifying in
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  Speaker 1: front of the Senate. I think it's Armed Services Committee,
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  Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken.
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  Speaker 2: And it is.
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  Speaker 1: You know, these are Foreign Relations Committee, and these hearings
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  Speaker 1: are absolutely hilarious if they weren't so disgusting because they
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  Speaker 1: were quote investigative hearings and they're meant for Congress to
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  Speaker 1: investigate whatever issues at hand, and they're anything but it's
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  Speaker 1: all about political posturing, nothing less, nothing more. So you
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  Speaker 1: see the Republicans on the committee thanking Marco Rubio and
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  Speaker 1: thanking the president for extraordinary leadership. And you're the world
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  Speaker 1: and you're bringing America up to the heights that it
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  Speaker 1: should and congratulations and we're lucky to have you there. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: thank you, And then the Democrats are saying, wait a minute,
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  Speaker 1: you were the president just knocked us off of NATO,
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  Speaker 1: and didn't you vote to keep us in NATO when
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  Speaker 1: you were a senator And then answers the question where's
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  Speaker 1: the investigation here there isn't any all right. So with
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  Speaker 1: that being said, moving that one aside, the doomsday clock.
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  Speaker 1: What is the doomsday clock? The doomsday clock was established
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  Speaker 1: by a group of scientists nineteen forty seven. Just as
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  Speaker 1: the United States, of course had the war and exploded,
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  Speaker 1: it exploded the atomic bomb. It had the bomb in
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  Speaker 1: nineteen forty five. It not only tested the bomb, but
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  Speaker 1: also Nagasaki or Oshima happened. And then the Russians a
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  Speaker 1: couple of three years later got the bomb, and so
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  Speaker 1: the doomsday clock was established. How close to midnight are we?
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  Speaker 1: And scientists created this clock to tell us we are
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  Speaker 1: near a nuclear disaster as in the bomb. I remember
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  Speaker 1: as a kid, we would have drop drills. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: now you have a shoot active shooter drills, you have
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  Speaker 1: fire drills. We had drop drills where literally the tishir
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  Speaker 1: would go drop and you hit your knees on your
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  Speaker 1: knees under the desk, and you put your hands over
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  Speaker 1: your neck.
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  Speaker 2: And you put your butt towards the window.
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  Speaker 1: Because I guess if there was an atomic bomb that
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  Speaker 1: was let loose, missile came in, your ass would fry
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  Speaker 1: one thousandth of one hundredth of a nanosecond before the
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  Speaker 1: rest of you.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you very much. That helped.
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  Speaker 1: So the doomsday clock it was close to midnight because
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  Speaker 1: that's what it happened. And now keep in mind that
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  Speaker 1: was just when of the Russians and the US had
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  Speaker 1: the bomb. Today, it Pakistan, India, North Korea, certainly, it's France,
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  Speaker 1: it's England, and if Iran gets it, that's going to
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  Speaker 1: be kind of fun. Up to this point, even crazy
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  Speaker 1: ass Kim Jong un isn't thinking of unleashing that bomb.
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  Speaker 1: Iran may be a little bit different because Iran is
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  Speaker 1: more interested in creating a theocracy in the Middle East
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  Speaker 1: and destroying Israel than it is protecting its own citizens.
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  Speaker 2: Look what happened during the protests.
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  Speaker 1: Kim Jong un is only interested in South Korea, not
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  Speaker 1: interested in destroying any other country. So the point is
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  Speaker 1: that the scientists are looking at this and moving the
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  Speaker 1: clock now to eighty five seconds before midnight. And why
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  Speaker 1: is that? Because look at the world.
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  Speaker 2: The world since nineteen forty is we're a mess.
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  Speaker 1: We are politically polarized, not only here in the United
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  Speaker 1: States but all over the world. I mean, Donald Trump
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  Speaker 1: has done a tremendous job of polarizing the planet. And
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  Speaker 1: what the scientists are saying, unless we get this straightened out,
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  Speaker 1: guess what, we're very close to a disaster. Also, they
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  Speaker 1: look at the disaster of climate change, they look at
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  Speaker 1: the disasters of the wars, that limited amount of fresh water,
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  Speaker 1: the ability to feed the world. It's all of this
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  Speaker 1: comes together, and we're looking at a very close, much
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  Speaker 1: closer time to utter destruction.
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  Speaker 2: And do they have an answer? They do, And what
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  Speaker 2: is the answer? Well, taken from the very famous.
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  Speaker 1: Words of one of the true great Americans, Rodney.
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  Speaker 2: King, why don't we all just get along? That's it.
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  Speaker 2: There's their answer. Why don't we all just get along?
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  Speaker 1: This is an international body, okay, comprised of some of
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  Speaker 1: the most famous scientists on the planet. California Highway one
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  Speaker 1: Pacific Coast Highway is one of the neatest highways in
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  Speaker 1: the world. I mean, it goes along the California coast
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  Speaker 1: and it is absolutely gorgeous.
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  Speaker 2: It's breathtaking.
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  Speaker 1: Now, the reality is is probably three years from now,
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  Speaker 1: five years from now, if you want to go up California,
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  Speaker 1: the California coast, it'll probably be either in a submarine
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  Speaker 1: or you're gonna do it with scuba gear. And that
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  Speaker 1: is because it's gonna fall into the ocean. And there
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  Speaker 1: are landslides of plenty. Do you know it's been closed
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  Speaker 1: for three years because of the landslides, because of those
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  Speaker 1: massive rocks that come down. I don't understand people that
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  Speaker 1: live in Malibu or Zuma up north and then work,
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  Speaker 1: let's say, in Santa Monica, and the only way to
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  Speaker 1: come down is along the coast, and they.
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  Speaker 2: Can't get home. They can't get across the boulders.
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  Speaker 1: There are a couple of ways where you go inland,
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  Speaker 1: and if they're blocked off, you are completely screwed. Three
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  Speaker 1: years now that the Pacific Coast Highway has been closed,
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  Speaker 1: why well because the landslides. Okay, well, come on, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I mean landslides all over the place.
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  Speaker 2: No, this highway along the coast is the.
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  Speaker 1: Perfect storm for erosion, for these giant boulders that sit
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  Speaker 1: on top of the soil on these hillsides that as
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  Speaker 1: soon as a good storm.
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  Speaker 2: Hits down, they roll. I don't know if you've ever
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  Speaker 2: seen them working on the highway.
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  Speaker 3: I have.
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  Speaker 1: They put these giant nets up, these steel cable nets,
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  Speaker 1: and you hope that rock doesn't fall on your head.
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  Speaker 1: So three years ago the road was closed because two
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  Speaker 1: major landslide buried the highway completely and it took this
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  Speaker 1: incredible engineering feet and debris had to be removed to
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  Speaker 1: connect the northern part of Highway Big Sur with the
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  Speaker 1: southern part. And by the way, the people that know
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  Speaker 1: this stuff, they will tell you right now, this isn't
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  Speaker 1: the end.
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  Speaker 2: This just this interim.
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  Speaker 1: I enjoy it why you can, because it is going
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  Speaker 1: to once again be closed, and once again you've got
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  Speaker 1: the rock slides, the mud flows, the flooding, the wildfires
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  Speaker 1: that cause the shrub to burn away and the shrubbery
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  Speaker 1: the roots keep the soil together.
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  Speaker 2: You've got coastal erosion.
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  Speaker 1: Closure, three years longest closure in the ninety year history
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  Speaker 1: of the highway. And the question is how is it
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  Speaker 1: going to survive? Well, the answer is it's not because
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  Speaker 1: it happens to be, as I said, the perfect storm, Neil.
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  Speaker 2: You've been up and down the coast, haven't you.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, And that is just a gorgeous ride, stunning it
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  Speaker 1: it is, and it is and what's really fun the
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  Speaker 1: obstacle course that highway one as you go around these
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  Speaker 1: giant boulders and you're waiting for them to come down.
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  Speaker 2: It's one of the most more fun trips that you
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  Speaker 2: can take.
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  Speaker 4: I actually took that trip with my family in a
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  Speaker 4: VW bus, probably with no seat belts on a rainy,
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  Speaker 4: dark night, and it's so many twists and turns.
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  Speaker 2: It was scary as hell.
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  Speaker 1: There is one part of it that was so bad
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  Speaker 1: is that they had to build a ton going through
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  Speaker 1: the mountain because it was known as the death part
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  Speaker 1: of the road. So many people died along the highway.
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  Speaker 1: And as a matter of fact, a couple of days
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  Speaker 1: ago I went I had lunch with Lindsay and we
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  Speaker 1: went to one of the restaurants right along the beach.
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  Speaker 1: What's also fun about Highway One, especially here in southern California,
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  Speaker 1: is you have these guys who have obviously incredibly small penises.
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  Speaker 1: How do I know they do is because they take
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  Speaker 1: their cars and go one hundred miles an hour up
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  Speaker 1: and down the road with their mufflers off, so you
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  Speaker 1: have the loudest noise you can possibly have and these
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  Speaker 1: are theoretically grown men.
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  Speaker 2: And they're not. Highway is great, I mean it is.
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  Speaker 1: There's all kinds of fun things, and then you're playing
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  Speaker 1: Russian Roulette with the big boulders that come down and
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  Speaker 1: go splat, and you know that you've one when you
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  Speaker 1: see an arm sticking out of a window that is
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  Speaker 1: smashed to pieces. Winter winter chicken dinner. All right, guys,
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  Speaker 1: we're done. Good news, first time in three years.
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  Speaker 2: It's open.
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  Speaker 1: If you have a chance to drive along Highway One,
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  Speaker 1: take advantage of it, because it really.
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  Speaker 2: Is not going to be a long, very long.
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  Speaker 1: And if you have a chance to spend fourteen million
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  Speaker 1: or eighteen million dollars for a house along the Malibu coastline,
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  Speaker 1: go ahead and do that because you're going to see
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  Speaker 1: that disappear pretty quickly too. Okay, guys, we are done
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  Speaker 1: with this part of the show, and it is time
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  Speaker 1: for every Wednesday we do this medical news. Doctor Jim
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  Speaker 1: Kinney the chief medical officer for Dignity Saint Mary Medical
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  Speaker 1: Center in Long Beach, also having worked in the er room.
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  Speaker 1: He's a Word certified er doctor and he's got thirty
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  Speaker 1: years experience in the er. Jim, how many people have
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  Speaker 1: you actually seen die in the er over the years?
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  Speaker 3: Quite a few?
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  Speaker 2: Give me, give me a number, I'm just curious.
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, maybe one a week. That's fifty a year
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  Speaker 3: for thirty years.
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  Speaker 1: Wow yeah, wow, uh so let's do this. So we're
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  Speaker 1: going to originally do the story about the vaccine schedule
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  Speaker 1: that the CDC is now suggesting, but I'd rather talk
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  Speaker 1: about some of the most interesting debts that you have
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  Speaker 1: been part of.
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  Speaker 2: Now we're not going to do that. You know what
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  Speaker 2: we do that we really want to talk about that.
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  Speaker 2: You know what do I let me ask someone, what
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  Speaker 2: do we talk about? What do we talk about when
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  Speaker 2: we have lunch?
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  Speaker 1: Jim, exactly, aways, Yes, it's always always okay. So you
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  Speaker 1: have a vaccine schedule that every year the CDC puts
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  Speaker 1: out and this year, under the Trump administration, under Robert F.
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  Speaker 2: Kennedy, that's completely blown up. And what does that actually
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  Speaker 2: what does that actually mean? Realistically?
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  Speaker 3: So in the past, what it's meant is that the
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  Speaker 3: American Academy of Patricks, doctors, and the CDC all speak
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  Speaker 3: with one voice. It creates a sense of confidence in
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  Speaker 3: parents and everyone else that you know, we're kind of
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  Speaker 3: doing the right thing. What this creates is a lot
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  Speaker 3: of angst, and it's going to create a lot of discussions.
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  Speaker 3: And as you know, doctors office time is limited, especially
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  Speaker 3: in a pediatric office. Those people, man, they're underpaid and
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  Speaker 3: they just crank through patients. It's crazy. But they you know,
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  Speaker 3: they're going to have to have much longer discussions about
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  Speaker 3: this because I think everybody's confidence is shaken and what
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  Speaker 3: do we do? You know, we can see that. So
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  Speaker 3: the American Academy of Pediatric is actually suing the subcommittee
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  Speaker 3: of the CDC that makes these decisions, and they want
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  Speaker 3: to block and invalidate all their actions because they're just
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  Speaker 3: so not science based and so often the rails.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: So let me ask, because we've got a measles outbreak
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  Speaker 1: now happening, I think particularly in North Carolina.
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  Speaker 3: And yeahline in Texas both.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm assuming that coincides with the fewer number of
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  Speaker 1: vaccinations measles vaccinations that are occurring. And does the CDC
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  Speaker 1: does the government recognize that that vaccinations may be part
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  Speaker 1: of this or do they ignore that?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean they're silent on it. And what they're
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  Speaker 3: doing is again this nineteen eighty four kind of Orwellian,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Barry the data. What they're doing is just
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  Speaker 3: stopping collecting data. So there are multiple CDC databases that
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  Speaker 3: have gone silent. There's thirty eight of one reports that
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  Speaker 3: thirty eight of eighty two CDC databases that are expected
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  Speaker 3: to update monthly have just stopped updating. So they're pausing
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  Speaker 3: the data to we're not going to be able to
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  Speaker 3: show that there's a connection, because that's their purposely undermining
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  Speaker 3: the ability to make that connection.
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  Speaker 1: I'm assuming that most pediatricians look at science. They're very
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  Speaker 1: I'm guessing there are very few anti vaxa pediatricians out
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  Speaker 1: there that are saying, you know what, maybe you don't
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  Speaker 1: want to vaccinate your kid, maybe you want to wait,
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  Speaker 1: maybe you don't need as many all the way up
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  Speaker 1: to crazy doctors. Has it really affected doctors from the
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  Speaker 1: information you have, or they're just going in just ignoring
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  Speaker 1: the CDC.
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  Speaker 3: No, yeah, they're there. They can't ignore the CDC because
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  Speaker 3: the patients are coming in. This is making news, right,
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  Speaker 3: So patients are coming in and still so that they
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  Speaker 3: called the hospital because what happened was the CDC took
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  Speaker 3: down the recommendation, so there was no longer could you
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  Speaker 3: look at the at all the recommendations. Now, of course
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  Speaker 3: they have them basically memorized, but they're calling the hospital
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  Speaker 3: and saying, what recommendations are you going by which ones
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  Speaker 3: are you using? And so that's why an American Academy
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  Speaker 3: of the Pediatrics had to publish their own because it
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  Speaker 3: was ridiculous. They couldn't nobody could use a standard. So
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  Speaker 3: they had to create a standard once again, which is
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  Speaker 3: really just the old standard. It's all they did was
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  Speaker 3: republish the old standard. So yeah, it's creating total chaos
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  Speaker 3: both with the physicians and with the patients.
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  Speaker 1: As the CDC responded to the American Academy Pediatrics and
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  Speaker 1: going back to the old formula or they sign on
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  Speaker 1: that too.
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  Speaker 3: Now they're kind they're kind of silent on that. They
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  Speaker 3: just you know, no response. Basically, again, the databases go dark,
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  Speaker 3: their responses go dark. They just publish new information that
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  Speaker 3: does not seem to be based in science. And yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's a little bit scary.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they all, I assume they also part of their
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  Speaker 1: booklets that the Earth is still flat. Doctor Jim Keeney
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  Speaker 1: is with us every Wednesday from eight thirty to nine.
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  Speaker 1: Jim chief medical officer for Dignity Saint Mary Medical Center
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  Speaker 1: in Long Beach and aboard certified er Jim the US
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  Speaker 1: this is Donald Trump has pulled out. We have pulled
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  Speaker 1: out of the World Health Organization. That's to me seemed
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  Speaker 1: a kind of a stunner. What does that actually mean?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so, I mean we're arrears in our bills of
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  Speaker 3: what we owe the World Health Organization for their operations,
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  Speaker 3: and I think basically said we're not going to pay
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  Speaker 3: those bills. So there's some of it a financial decision.
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  Speaker 3: And he says that they are have fully executed their
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  Speaker 3: pullout from the World Health Organization as of January twenty second.
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  Speaker 3: What it actually means, I mean, remains to be seen, right,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, WHO is a kind of a lower friction
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  Speaker 3: way for us to get global kind of switchboard cross
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  Speaker 3: signals on cross border outbreaks, on outbreaks all over the
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  Speaker 3: world that may you know now with with airline travel,
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  Speaker 3: that's ease and inexpensiveness of airline travel. People are coming
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  Speaker 3: from all over the world to the United States, and
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  Speaker 3: being aware of a Marlborough outbreak in Africa is important
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  Speaker 3: because they put that information out to state and county
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  Speaker 3: health divisions and then they put push that information out
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  Speaker 3: to hospitals. So how are we going to rebuild this
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  Speaker 3: entire infrastructure that started with the WHO and spread through
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  Speaker 3: all those mechanisms. You know, it remains to be seen.
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  Speaker 3: The idea is that they're not going to just lift
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  Speaker 3: that all drop, but I don't know if I have
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  Speaker 3: a lot of faith in that.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, the general consensus is the United States is
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  Speaker 1: pulling out of so many of these international medical organizations.
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  Speaker 1: Is that going to be fairly easy to bring us
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  Speaker 1: back in with an ex administration or is this irreparable harm?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think anything's irreparable. But at the
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  Speaker 3: same time, here's this expertise. You're losing people who have
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  Speaker 3: been in the field working for World Health for years
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  Speaker 3: or maybe decades. And when you lose that talent, they're
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  Speaker 3: going to move on to another job. They're not necessarily
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  Speaker 3: going to want to come back in you know, three
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  Speaker 3: years with a new administration. So yeah, I mean, this
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  Speaker 3: is going to cause some damage that is really long term.
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  Speaker 3: Fixed is going to be the issue here. And then
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  Speaker 3: you know, just something as simple as how are we
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  Speaker 3: going to determine the makeup of the influenza vaccine next year?
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  Speaker 3: That's one of the functions of World Health is to
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  Speaker 3: coordinate with other countries to look at what's circulating around
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  Speaker 3: the world. You know, we're not accurate every year, but
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  Speaker 3: imagine if we don't have that information, how much less
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  Speaker 3: accurate it may be and self fulfilling provercy. You know,
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  Speaker 3: they say the efficacy of inflo vaccines. We don't need
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  Speaker 3: to get those anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Is there an organization or individual that or a government
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  Speaker 1: that has looked at how many, if any how many
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  Speaker 1: deaths are actually going to occur as a result of
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  Speaker 1: the US pulling out of who.
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  Speaker 2: There?
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  Speaker 3: I think there'll be people that try and do that,
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  Speaker 3: but that's you know, it's creating a you know what
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  Speaker 3: if situation that's very hard like scientifically to either you know,
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  Speaker 3: substantiate or counter substantiate. You know, it's just it's just
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  Speaker 3: a politically loaded question, and it's very hard to actually
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  Speaker 3: come up with numbers of the X number of people
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  Speaker 3: will no longer get X treatment, and then you extrapolate
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  Speaker 3: that out across multiple countries, multiple disease processes, and multiple
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  Speaker 3: interventions and try and come up with a number. There's
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  Speaker 3: you know, I wouldn't believe the number if it came out.
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  Speaker 1: Okay for next week, by the way, if you don't
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  Speaker 1: mind during the week jotting down some of your memories
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  Speaker 1: and the most interesting and exotic depths that occurred in
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  Speaker 1: your ear, your e are that you have overseen because
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  Speaker 1: I'm always interested in that. We haven't done a really
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  Speaker 1: good death story in a while, have you noticed.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because you know it's still I do have some PTSD.
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  Speaker 3: I'd rather not talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: That's okay, that was fine, you know this is yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're here to entertain people, so that's a small
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  Speaker 1: price to pay.
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  Speaker 2: Jim, we'll catch you next week. You have a good one.
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  Speaker 3: Take care, Yeah, go kill someone.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, all right, we're done. That's it. Show
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  Speaker 2: is over.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Gary and Shannon up next tomorrow morning five o'clock.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: It starts all over again with Amy and Will wake
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  Speaker 2: up Call.
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  Speaker 1: Then Neil and I join up from six to nine,
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  Speaker 1: and then of course Cono and Ad and Anne stuck
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: here because they have no chance of begetting any other
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  Speaker 1: job out there.
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