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Street Farbrengen Episode #136 : G-d Has A Manifesto. What Is Yours? · ChabadLife.TV Street Farbrengen

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SPEAKER_02: Ruven, we once spoke on Street Verbringen about the idea whether Hasidis has everything.
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SPEAKER_02: And I was thinking about that again recently, especially in reference to a Ferbren.
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SPEAKER_02: When we're having a Febrangen, when a person's having a Febrangen, are they Are they claiming they have the answer?
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SPEAKER_02: Are they supposed to have the answer to the questions that they're posing?
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SPEAKER_02: Or is it something else entirely?
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SPEAKER_00: You're putting your finger on a huge, huge, huge, huge, huge, huge game to talk about.
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SPEAKER_00: Like, you know.
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SPEAKER_00: For me.
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SPEAKER_00: First of all, I abhor Febringons that somebody's gonna answer.
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SPEAKER_00: Like some question.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean, why would you abhor?
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, answers are nice.
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SPEAKER_02: I just don't know if that's the point.
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SPEAKER_00: And the Febringon is not a Kashleana Teretz.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, so what what I I I inherently get this, but I'm having a hard time because I I do like answers.
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SPEAKER_02: I like hearing stories of the Rebba.
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SPEAKER_02: I like, you know, question and answers that are satisfying and leave me inspired.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: There's like something to it.
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SPEAKER_02: I just don't think that's what we're here doing.
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SPEAKER_02: I definitely don't think we have answers, despite, you know, a hundred and whatever.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, that's the thing.
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SPEAKER_00: We don't I don't come here to give answers to questions.
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SPEAKER_00: For bringing is let me ask you this.
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SPEAKER_00: You go to a therapist, is are they answering questions?
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SPEAKER_02: No.
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SPEAKER_00: What are they doing?
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SPEAKER_02: They're helping bring out in you the ability to deal and slash answer for yourself.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: Answer what?
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SPEAKER_00: Questions?
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SPEAKER_00: Intellectual questions?
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SPEAKER_00: No, no.
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SPEAKER_00: You're not going to the therapist about philosophy class, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: So the reason why I think you can ask this question to begin with is because we're living in a time where people in general will not speak personal.
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SPEAKER_00: Personally.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: But we've said this a million times because they don't have any personal goals when it comes to the inner sky.
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SPEAKER_00: They know what they have to do, but what do you want to live with in what you're doing?
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SPEAKER_00: You know, can I say a uh explanation of Rashi on the Psalm 27 that we say twice a day during El all the way till all the way till uh out of um Shminy Tseris?
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SPEAKER_02: I give you permission.
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SPEAKER_02: But as long as it's not a question-answer.
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SPEAKER_00: No, but it's a little racy.
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SPEAKER_02: Ooh, ooh, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: So it says in the Pasak, Abiva that my father and my mother abandoned me.
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SPEAKER_00: And Hashem Yasvani.
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SPEAKER_00: And God gathered me.
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SPEAKER_00: So you know what Rashi says?
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SPEAKER_00: Listen to this.
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SPEAKER_00: Rashi says that during intimacy, the mother and the father you know, and if you take the pasik, it's referring to Davin Malk's mother and father, but the mother and the father each were participating in their own pleasure.
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SPEAKER_00: When they finished, one turns over, like he says, one turns this way, and then the other one turns that way.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, so that whole issue is probably 3,000 years old.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, but that's a different discussion.
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SPEAKER_00: We're not going there.
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SPEAKER_00: So they both that was the end of the story by them.
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SPEAKER_00: That's what Rachi says.
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SPEAKER_00: One turned to the this way, one turned that way, and goodbye, see you later.
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SPEAKER_00: And all that they were there was for their own pleasure.
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SPEAKER_00: And God gathered me, that he took the seed and he made you.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, now, why did that jump out at me?
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SPEAKER_00: Because to me, this is the whole Virth we were speaking last week about Anila Doidi and Doidi Lee.
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SPEAKER_00: What do I mean?
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SPEAKER_00: And it ties into what you're asking.
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SPEAKER_00: What is there for David Amalek saying?
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SPEAKER_00: David Amalach is saying that in the very most physical um part of life, right, unbeknownst to the two people who are just there enjoying themselves, God was forming you.
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SPEAKER_00: Godliness, God was totally involved in that whole procedure, whatever you want to call it, in that space.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, it's like we're learning together in Basilagani.
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SPEAKER_00: Lamatamata aling tahlas.
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SPEAKER_00: He's right there in the uh in the dirt of things, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: But the iqr is that it's not the shot that they're having something bad that they're doing, but each one is only there for their pleasure.
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SPEAKER_00: They're only thinking about Gashmi's dika oilumhazah, and the Ape is doing this incredible thing called creation of a child, of a human being, which is you and us.
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SPEAKER_00: That to me is El.
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SPEAKER_00: That's Melek Basada.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, and that means God's totally, totally involved in every stitch of your life.
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SPEAKER_00: Right?
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: So what's a febring?
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SPEAKER_00: What how do you come to the table of the Febrangan?
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SPEAKER_00: I was listening to this crazy podcast.
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SPEAKER_00: Again, I mean, you know, what can I say?
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SPEAKER_00: I was driving a lot.
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SPEAKER_00: I listened to this crazy podcast where some um lady who's in charge of communications for one of the biggest communication firms in the country says she she asks her clients to make a manifesto.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, we're gonna get into it in a minute because I'm gonna be a little bit vulnerable to tell you about my manifesto that happened today.
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SPEAKER_00: So, and I and she says, Who, and she's talking about entrepreneurs, and she goes, How could you, as an entrepreneur, demand of your employees and demand of your partners, whoever else is around you in your business, take them, vele venefesh, she doesn't say that in Hebrew, of course, with heart and soul, even abandon their family to do what it takes to make the company work.
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SPEAKER_00: And so to speak, how do you have the chutzpah to have them fight in your war if you don't have a compelling message for them to fight for?
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SPEAKER_00: Rather than, you know, just asking them to do it.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: Wow.
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SPEAKER_00: So she says, you have to have a manifesto, right?
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SPEAKER_00: And I was thinking about all the weeks we've been learning in Basilagani, the whole idea of uh Siva Sashem.
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SPEAKER_00: And I thought to myself, do I have anything really compelling that I'm willing, so to speak, to die for?
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SPEAKER_00: Now I'm not looking for Monsieur Snefesh in the sense of, you know, some guy should come and attack me, or God forbid, and then I'll fight.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm talking about sitting in my living room, and now I'm gonna decide, you know, during Ell, that this is what I'm willing to, so to speak, fight for.
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SPEAKER_00: And it's compelling and it's my manifesto.
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SPEAKER_00: And I couldn't say yes to that question.
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SPEAKER_00: And if we don't have that, then what's a forbringer?
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SPEAKER_00: But think about if we do have it.
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SPEAKER_00: Then you have what to forbring about.
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SPEAKER_00: This is difficult, this is that difficult, I don't know about this, I don't know about that.
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SPEAKER_02: You're saying when you have a manifesto, then the the challenges become clear of what is that what you're saying?
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SPEAKER_00: Then you then you have a roadmap in life.
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SPEAKER_00: Then you have how does that manifesto express itself in every part of your life?
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SPEAKER_00: So, how does it connect it in my mind to this capital?
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Is the Abersha has a manifesto?
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SPEAKER_00: And even though one guy is turning to the left and the other person's turning to the right and they're going to sleep, and they were there just for their own pleasure, Hashem has his own manifesto happening, even in that.
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SPEAKER_00: So even in your business that you're getting geschmack from, and we're told not to think that it's Koihvaitzum Yaddiya Sakhailaza, the Ibish is there too.
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SPEAKER_00: Isn't that what we just learned this morning?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: So a Fabrengan, is it a question and ans?
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SPEAKER_00: Is it is it like a professor at the front of the class question and answer kind of format?
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SPEAKER_02: So you can't.
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SPEAKER_02: So so the idea of giving ATSAs of how to overcome a challenge is not answers.
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SPEAKER_02: That's not what you're saying.
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SPEAKER_00: That's not question and answer, no.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: That's that's taking where your roadmap is supposed to be leading you, and you're seeing your veering off from it and to get back on.
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SPEAKER_02: So the ATSAs to get back on that.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, that's the way you see it.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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unknown: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: It doesn't have to be that is the issue.
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SPEAKER_00: The issue could be as I don't even know what road to go down to Megala my manifesto.
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SPEAKER_00: What isn't that the Sikha from Tafshin Nun Al uh Nun Al from Parsa Shafti?
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SPEAKER_00: Hashivainuk of Rishonov Yatsenukathila.
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SPEAKER_00: Bring us back the Parsak and Yeshaya, bring us back our our prophets.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, sorry, our judges, as uh uh the ones, the original ones, and the advisors and the advisors.
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SPEAKER_00: And the Rebbe points out that it says, Ain' Shaf it Sha'inloy Shite, you don't have a Shaifit, you can't have a judge without a policeman or whatever to make sure the uh the courts gonna officer's gonna follow through on the Psakdin.
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SPEAKER_00: And the Rebbe explains that a Shaifit doesn't care about who you are, he doesn't look look at your world, he only looks at the world of Halacha, and he only looks in the world of his mind about Halacha.
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SPEAKER_00: And a Yait is the opposite.
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SPEAKER_00: Right?
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SPEAKER_00: It's all about who's the person I'm talking to.
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SPEAKER_00: And that's the that's the relationship of God to the yiddin and the ikvasa and the Zman of Mashiach.
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SPEAKER_00: So that's a verbringen.
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SPEAKER_00: But if if you're not listening we've I've beat this drum over and over again, but and if you're you know if you don't have something like that in your life, so what will you gonna have answers and questions about when do I put my trill in on?
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SPEAKER_00: I got to school last late.
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SPEAKER_00: But no, that this it Which is an important question, but it's not a verbringen.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you were saying before, interesting, that you just like kind of glossed over it, that you're not here to tell you what to do.
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SPEAKER_02: Right?
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SPEAKER_02: So when so I guess that that was kind of how you phrased it.
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SPEAKER_02: It's just like you're out of forbringen, you mean?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, out of forbringen that meaning It's not about compliance.
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SPEAKER_02: If you're talking about compliance or what to do, then they're talking as a question and answer because this is good to do, and this is gonna be good for you know yourself, for your community, for your life, and like okay, I I I don't want to go there because we've talked about it also so many times.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, like you're you're talking about a checkbox.
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SPEAKER_02: A checkbox list could be considered question-answer.
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SPEAKER_02: This is a good thing for you to do.
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SPEAKER_02: This is what the Reb is said to do, and so therefore, this is why you should do it.
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SPEAKER_02: And so you you get to the place of um satisfaction because you're leaving with, I mean, like this is I'm trying to think of how to put this.
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SPEAKER_02: It's satisfying to have an answer because the takeaway that you leave with is an actionable step of what you should be doing, and so therefore, if you decide to do it, now you're on that path and you you're satisfied with the answer versus what you're describing.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm just saying, I don't know if it's true, but I'm just saying, like, that's the idea.
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SPEAKER_02: Whereas what you're describing here, yeah, you don't have that level of satisfaction because the answer is not changing the the action is a personal growth.
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SPEAKER_00: The first the first stage, the first thing you describe is satisfaction of intellectual.
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SPEAKER_02: It might even be a toil.
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SPEAKER_02: It might actually be like a real meaning, like if you're a forbringing for not from Yiddin, you know, you're gonna focus on like, okay, everybody take on a mitzvah and grow, and you'll see that your life is gonna be amazing.
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SPEAKER_02: You know what they you know, the rhetoric.
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SPEAKER_02: But but that's not a forbranging.
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SPEAKER_00: By the way, I never bought it.
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SPEAKER_02: What do you mean never bought it?
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SPEAKER_00: I never bought that.
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SPEAKER_02: Why not?
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SPEAKER_00: Because I see a lot of suffering in the world, even though people do tone mitzvahs.
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SPEAKER_00: I understand.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm just saying this is what I so I never bought it then and I wouldn't even say it.
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SPEAKER_00: But that's just me.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't know.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you're uh typical in in that uh arena of what's listen, I I I feel bad about it because the Rebbe himself says it many times.
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SPEAKER_00: Right?
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SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure of the context, but that's a different discussion.
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SPEAKER_00: But that's a side point.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the the the the point I was making though is but you're saying that's not a for bringing.
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SPEAKER_02: You're saying that's a glorified speech where you are just emotionally trying to get them to connect to an idea that you've already decided is here's my vulnerable moment.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, you were gonna say you're in Minnesota.
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SPEAKER_00: There so I hate I'm embarrassed to say this, not because of what I'm gonna tell you, but because I did it with ChatGPT.
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SPEAKER_02: That's everybody's new Mia.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: So this is I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: Who's embarrassed to that idea?
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SPEAKER_00: Which could be which could be in itself a Dabravi Fuchai about what a forbringin is.
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SPEAKER_00: But anyways, so it's called a master prompt.
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SPEAKER_00: If you put in master prompt, it'll start asking you questions about your life.
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SPEAKER_00: Sure.
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SPEAKER_00: Right?
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SPEAKER_00: And they'll give you your manifesto.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: I did one about a year ago and I totally forgot about it, anyways.
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SPEAKER_00: So I went back to it today.
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SPEAKER_00: It was I was really in a low point, actually, today.
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SPEAKER_00: And I said, I gotta, I gotta get myself into gear again, you know.
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SPEAKER_00: So I went to master prompt and said, let's start over.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna go through the whole Stashless, but at one and it's asked me questions, and at one point it asked me, What are you gonna what are you gonna look like when in 10 years from now when you're 78 years old?
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: And one of the answers I gave answers, and then it asked me, What stops you from being that way?
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SPEAKER_00: Now you're saying um no, he's it the question was ask the 78-year-old man one question.
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SPEAKER_00: When did you finally stop doing what did you finally stop doing at 68 that allows you to become the 78-year-old man?
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SPEAKER_02: Ooh, good question.
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SPEAKER_02: Good question.
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SPEAKER_02: Ooh, chat GBT must be extraordinaire.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: So I wrote back excuses.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, okay, good.
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SPEAKER_00: He gives me a comment, very nice.
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SPEAKER_00: So it it gives you a comment.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: So I wrote a bunch of answers, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Of what do I be like at 78?
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SPEAKER_00: So one of the things I said something about God.
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SPEAKER_00: So it asks me, one last territory I want to explore.
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SPEAKER_00: God.
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SPEAKER_00: I said, okay.
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SPEAKER_00: You said that the 70-year-old is in love with life and God.
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SPEAKER_00: What does it mean being in love with God?
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SPEAKER_00: It was a question I would ask.
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SPEAKER_02: It's a great question.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: What does it look like and what does it feel like?
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SPEAKER_00: And it says, not what Hasidis says it should be.
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SPEAKER_03: That's a ruban answer.
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SPEAKER_00: But you, you know, yeah, it's a Ruben answer.
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SPEAKER_00: So I I wrote back what does it feel like like if you are in love with God, power, uh, righteousness, humbleness, direction, passion, and excellence.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: So now, if I emblazon those that answer that I gave myself, because I probably forgot about it ten minutes later, um I have what to forbring about.
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SPEAKER_00: Where's my passion?
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SPEAKER_00: How come I don't what does it mean being excellence?
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SPEAKER_00: How am I gonna get to excellence?
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SPEAKER_00: What do I mean?
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SPEAKER_00: What does it mean direction?
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SPEAKER_00: Where do I want to go?
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SPEAKER_00: Right?
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SPEAKER_00: And this Chat Chip T goes, by the way, what's interesting is like is that humbleness sits inside power.
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SPEAKER_00: Not opposite it.
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SPEAKER_00: And righteousness and direction suggest that God gives you an axis, axis, and being in love with God is uh isn't retreating from the world, etc.
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SPEAKER_00: etc.
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SPEAKER_00: So it's basically bouncing I the I the the comment, but it's an emotional response, it's not an intellectual response.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: That's a Fabrian.
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SPEAKER_00: I told you the story with with Dr.
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SPEAKER_00: Landis from Pl Palo Alto who told me that Dr.
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SPEAKER_00: Landis is a was a psychologist in Stanford University.
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SPEAKER_00: And he was a real big character, physically as well as he was a huge character.
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SPEAKER_00: He would call me up in the middle of the of the night going, Flamer! I knew it was him right away because who would talk Flamer?
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SPEAKER_00: You're overdosing on Jews.
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SPEAKER_00: Come over and watch some TV, you know.
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SPEAKER_00: So, anyways, so he was he responded very strongly to, at least in the beginning, to the Rebbe's request for somebody coming up with a format for meditation, not Jewish meditation, but meditation to replace what people were going to in those days of you know gurus and stuff, because people who cannot concentrate, this is 1984, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Or two or something.
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SPEAKER_00: People who can't concentrate are not healthy.
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SPEAKER_00: Think about that one.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh man.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, then we're like, we're already like oh you spell.
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SPEAKER_00: Anyways, so he comes to New York a little short time later, and he's going to and he puts up a flyer that they're gonna have an event at the Koylel at night, after you know, like eight o'clock at night, and they're gonna learn a little bit about meditation.
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SPEAKER_00: And 10, 15 guys show up, and he has a circle of chairs, and they all sit down, and there's this big, huge, barreling voice, Dr.
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SPEAKER_00: Landis, and he goes, Gentlemen, let's first tie take off our shoes.
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SPEAKER_00: He says, Ruvain, it took me about 45 minutes to get everybody's shoes off.
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SPEAKER_00: Like that was too intimate for them, you know.
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SPEAKER_00: Like, so you want them to tell tell you what's bothering them, what's what's what's difficult.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, so in the you know, I guess in the old days whatever.
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SPEAKER_00: So that's a Fabering.
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SPEAKER_02: And so again, it's not the lack of AT's to help you reach that goal.
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SPEAKER_02: It's that it's actually more about the vulnerability coming to the table and being expressed, and then ultimately that desire um uh that desire um getting um infused with Rebbe and Hasidis and Hashem and everything like that, that that's what makes it a for breakfast.
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SPEAKER_00: Not only the desire, the power.
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SPEAKER_02: The power.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm saying that the connection of that vulnerability to what we know is is MS in reality, and and or we only know it.
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SPEAKER_02: That we only know it, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Wow.
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SPEAKER_02: So you know so we don't have to look, we don't have to look to have I mean again, we we usually start our Fabrians, we don't know where we're going.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know where I'm going.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm uh I mean I guess usually was uh was a soft term of saying, yeah, we never know what we're doing.
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SPEAKER_02: But the the vulnerability of it is the is the actual key, and then the connection to what you want to connect to with that vulnerability is the is the real goal of the Ferbring, that you should leave having that exposed vulnerability now infused with Rebbe Hasidis, you know, MS, whatever whatever it is, but not as an Aetha, but as a No, as an Aetha.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, I'm I was saying ATSA as like an answer to the vulnerability or
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SPEAKER_00: question that no it's not an answer to your Velner question.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm saying as a let me tell you a story.
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SPEAKER_00: Did I ever tell you the story?
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SPEAKER_00: I don't know if we said it uh in public like this.
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SPEAKER_00: But a guy told me he's in Kinoch and he told me a story that happened in his yeshiva where there was a top dog guy.
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SPEAKER_00: It was like Mamish, you know, he's gonna be next Godolador kind of thing.
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SPEAKER_00: You know in those yeshivas.
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SPEAKER_00: And you have a 16 year old guy.
22:28
SPEAKER_00: And he started to obviously slip and they saw that he wasn't functioning as normal.
22:34
SPEAKER_00: And it got to the point where the guy was like checking out.
22:38
SPEAKER_00: So this guy who told me over the story we were having it for bringing walking down the street but I'm having a forbring.
22:48
SPEAKER_00: So he tells me you'll see why I say in a sec.
22:51
SPEAKER_00: So he takes this kid and it takes him on a walk and he confronts him like what's going on?
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SPEAKER_00: You were like learning Yoma Valaila and now you're checked out and eventually he gets the guy to admit that he wants to kill himself.
23:09
SPEAKER_00: Why does he want to kill himself?
23:12
SPEAKER_00: Um what's the right way to say this um he's been physically aroused and spilling seed and now is concluded that therefore he's deserves to die Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: Could you imagine a 16 year old guy in the yeshiva who's got the hat the jacket and the white shirt and who learns Yama Vulala that he would come to that?
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
23:42
SPEAKER_00: So I said what'd you tell this guy?
23:46
SPEAKER_00: So he said to him back I have the same problem this guy came to him months later and said that that saved him from killing himself now it's not because what if the guy didn't have that problem he would have killed himself no the voort is it was human we have some kind of I've noticed some kind of i unhumanness to our Yiddishkeit I don't know why other than maybe we're afraid we'll we'll check out completely because uh we're gonna be human and do what humans somebody's gonna find out you're not itsottic.
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SPEAKER_02: Who thinks that you're it's north I'm not saying it's a conscious thing but I'm saying when there's or maybe no but I'm saying when there's so many expectations on you of what you your favorite wood should be doing that you end up shooting all over yourself as you always like to say and that expectation to hide that you're right what you're saying but that's not I think the core of what's happening.
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SPEAKER_00: I think the core of those happening is the person the emotional person the the the heart the feeling the feelings the the as YY has been speaking about his nervous system is checked out we don't address it at all we live in question and answer world and but there's a real person that Davis that wants that real person to struggle with Yiddish guy I think is way we I would put it.
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SPEAKER_02: Well Hashem made us with the struggle so I don't think there's right so I mean one of the hardest I don't know if one of the hardest I don't know why I said that but a very hard idea that's brought in Tanya that I've heard multiple people comment on is the fact that as a bainini you could have the same challenge over and over and over for the whole your whole life and it could potentially never go away.
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SPEAKER_02: It won't and well you can say it won't I mean sometimes most of your big things will always be a tyva.
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SPEAKER_02: So I'm saying it's always a taiva it's always there and like I'm gonna have to fight this forever there's never gonna be relief so the idea I I understand but I'm saying that idea by itself that it's just first of all that piece of acknowledgement of you are human and even the Bainini may still have the taiva he just doesn't give it any expression or doesn't do anything with it but that it always is there is in if you stop the if you stop learning you just finished at that point that's a very defeating potentially feeling that my goodness I'm gonna have to deal with this for the rest of my life I'm so sick of it I struggle with it I fight with it I win I lose it's it's exhausting so the idea that it's a forever battle by itself again we we'll we'll talk about what the Altarebba says after but that itself is a defeating feeling to think of.
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SPEAKER_00: Right but we we you know I've I told you the story once before that the the Alta Rebba takes off the idea of an end game throws it out the door is an end game.
27:19
SPEAKER_00: Did you win?
27:20
SPEAKER_00: And he says okay the first half pericotanya goodbye we're not talking about Sharvoinish we're talking about you know Nevis al Kis Nevish the Bahamas and because you think it's an end game it becomes a powerful problem for you.
27:39
SPEAKER_00: But what happens if ever which is what Dan Altribus says every single time your taiva is enraging and you do a Skafia you're like incredible connection to the Aberston.
27:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah but if you're thinking about if you're thinking about end game and I shouldn't be there having this taiva then you're a loser.
27:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah so I'm saying the yeah and he he really he spells it out so much that that's the that's the myla of a Bainan ever as a topic no but the whole mohus of what we're doing here on this planet changes that that's what I'm saying.
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SPEAKER_00: So then what's a Febrangen?
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SPEAKER_02: So Febrangen is acknowledging those challenges and those that human experience that you're describing and first of all giving light to it which already destroys a lot of the darkness of just actually being cockroaches when you turn the lights on in your house in Brooklyn this is what they say especially with like addiction it's like finally admitting it and finally bringing it out and exposing it.
28:36
SPEAKER_00: So then how come we're so afraid to speak about again you'd that was a rhetorical question.
28:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah um yeah I realize that so there's something fundamentally problematic going on and that now as I told someone yesterday I met someone at a brain of a friend of mine that his one of his students became a therapist I said you know when I was a Baker long time ago I can still remember that if you went to a therapist you were considered an epicoris.
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SPEAKER_00: And now there's 50 ads in Nashikabad for therapists to go into them and speak with them.
29:17
SPEAKER_00: So what happened is it good or bad yeah and I think to a to a to a degree I mean if you think about it on one level people maybe if they really were serious they went into the Rebbe Yahad Yhidas it was the biggest therapeutic marching down the road of life that you would ever have right sure um or I could imagine I don't know I I did I didn't have that but besides that I think that I don't know I haven't really I don't know if it's important to know why it changed but I think this is what's a lot of people are hungry for so I could tell you something real so what I could tell you that I have seen especially in the in the healing world that uh I think is the healing world?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah I'm saying the therapy healing you know yeah whatever world that there's this idea that a modality or even a belief system or practice you said before like the nervous system to like heal the nervous system where you could get addicted to the healing so you could get addicted to the modality so meaning that once that modality is no longer giving you your fix that you're gonna are you warning me before I go like what are you trying to say what I'm what I'm saying is that you you have to heal your own nervous system.
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SPEAKER_00: Meaning like the the therapy the idea the modality well you're saying of course but what I'm saying is I feel like people forget that point and what you're describing here in all truth a person who's emotion well we'll call it spiritually of need and healing may not be able to do it themselves.
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SPEAKER_02: No no I'm not saying you shouldn't have assistance I'm saying the goal is and well that's you're saying okay but that's what I'm saying is the difference between when you're going to the Rebba and you could have that uplifted feeling and now where we have to have forbrengins between us and between well there was no Febrangans in the times of the Rebbe what are you talking about no but I'm saying you just said when you went to the Rebbe it was okay so I'm saying that uplifted and changed the whole and we don't have that so what I'm saying is what is maybe the evolution of that yeah in the positive is that again it has to come from yourself.
31:53
SPEAKER_00: Okay fine so the we have for sure the Rebbe said that it's all dependent on you.
31:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah Gallaspanim avoid yeah of course okay so if you have let's take the words of Galluspanin avoid an inner Gallus in serving God serving God in chasilis means I'm becoming a caliph for more elukus right which is what ChatGPT asked me what's that gonna feel like right well I don't know I guess uh it means I'm gonna have to get up earlier in the morning or something and I don't know learn a little more hours or what's it gonna feel like so it's it's so yeah I I I you know I can talk you know I once I'm not gonna say the story but I was once at a Fabrin with Rabbi Murazov who was 97 at the time he was with a bunch of Hasidim not Lababach and he was saying some very wild stuff we'll just leave it at that their streamals were turning around and creating electric currents in the room and he at one point he said I'm old enough where I can talk like this right he's a 97 year old man he can say what he wants so I'm almost there is that one of your goals for 78 and you can talk about whatever you want without any I kind of almost do it already but um my god I'm afraid then if that would be I mean whatever but um I've been pondering this idea of the king is in the field.
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SPEAKER_00: Some guy came over to me yesterday in Schul and he said where does it say that so you have the you know the Jewish Orthodox Lakewood Beit Shemesh music access access 10 top songs you know one of them now is the king is in the field you know the Melch Masada and they don't even know where it comes from and you know it's one little mushel in a mimic from the Alta Rebbe there's probably 10 mushls on every page of Lakute Terra and Teraor and there's one mushroom.
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SPEAKER_00: And the only reason why some Yahoo in uh I don't know where in Beit Shamas knows about it is because the Rebbe made it like front um stage right how come what is this Malk Basada?
34:27
SPEAKER_00: I really don't get it the king's not with you during the year obviously he is right okay so my high yeah and not only that we say Rush on Yim Kippur he goes back to his palace makes even more like so what does that mean?
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SPEAKER_00: On Rush on Yim Kippur I don't have him okay so there's a lot of good questions and answers and this is for bringing so we're not gonna have any questions and answers right but my point is one of the things that I was thinking about was the the Rebbe says Sada is your place of being out of the city.
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SPEAKER_00: It's your place in your how should we say like you said about the Bainani with all his or hers taivas Sadha out in the you know when they go to the Catskills for the summer in the Sadha so what does it mean Malak Basada that you could find the desire the thirst the the expectation of wonder about God even when you're in a place of sadha not from the place of sadha you're given this koya so we have to explain that really when you get down to it but um what I'm what as you get older tell you Sonny that you you'll see when you get older that in a certain for me at least for a certain sense humanness becomes more primary than ever before humanness and you know it's pun it's funny because when you think about Parshuski Taitse which we're this week speaks about the guy who's a soldier he goes off to war and the and the Torah says what happens if he has a taiva for one of the Goyisha women that he they captured in in war well you should take this guy and you should throw him out of the base medresh you should not allow him to come to Shual you should put up papers on the on the walls of B'Nay Brack about how bad a guy this guy is and everyone should stay away from him.
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SPEAKER_02: But meanwhile what does the Torah say one time we'll we'll we'll we'll we'll we'll deal with your yeah sahara this is how we're gonna do it we're gonna try to keep uh let it abate but if not you can go all go ahead now of course this is a I'm not giving this as a carte blanche for everybody's Tivas but think about the humanness of that from the from the Tur's point of view and so and the and the the if anything wasn't that one of the peculiar paradoxes of the Rebbe that he was so on one hand not of this world and at the same time was totally in that Sadda he was the Melech and is the Melech Basada um so why are we pretending that's what I I'm asking why are we pretending we don't have these feelings are we afraid of them or is it the job not to follow them but as you said half the job is knowing how you feel and then the light of the light of day will make those feelings change that's what means right so so we're in the so yeah so how's your lo going good question labracha uh no no no no no no no no no my has been wonderful yeah are you writing your manifesto my manifesto has been written for a little while now yeah did you write it or you think God wrote it no no i've I've felt it and I've been working at it for for some can you inspire me or is private private private okay so I can't get inspired by you not yet okay not yet not yet maybe in the future I'll become more vulnerable and I'll be able to expose that okay for bringing it okay I hear you yeah so one of the one of the pieces of it though is what we spoke about last time of of the finding joy and pleasure in my work in my life in different things that I'm doing and feeling that connection to Hashem while I'm doing it that was really a big part of it actually.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh is that how's that working out?
39:44
SPEAKER_00: Rakhashem yeah isn't it funny that we have to like do that and come to a kiddish that I'm gonna enjoy who I am isn't that bizarre that's what I'm that's what I'm trying to figure out.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean when we talked about it last time that this guy you know this guy who made Nike or whatever he did you know figured it out when he first started working when he was 18 years old I don't know you could always I feel like you always have a sense of it yeah but just reality seems to contradict it so much that you lose you lose it inside I think I think is it possible that we lose that humanness and that passion in the fact that we always see who we are as a contradiction to what we're told we're supposed to be yeah yeah I've I was telling somebody recently that I've had an experience for a lot of my life being as an excited person as I am to calm down.
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SPEAKER_02: Just calm down like really yeah I've been told it many times calm down because you're jumping up and down or you're doing something I just said believe crazy things and does it well believe crazy doesn't mean calm down.
41:02
SPEAKER_02: No but it's a general idea of just like calm down just you know whatever and like we don't want you to get disappointed.
41:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah and it's just and my response has always kind of been but to different degrees throughout my life was like no thanks like I wanna I like yeah yeah okay did you do that in Jewish things too?
41:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah of course that's how I was able to become from no I'm talking about after from yeah even even so there were madrigas of it for sure but I'm saying it was most pronounced obviously when I had to assign it to nature how did you how did you what did you do to get past their limiting statements I just never identified as it I didn't want to identify as that I did I liked my energy and my passion and excitement even though I'm sure you have a part of you that wanted to be accepted by the other person.
41:57
SPEAKER_02: I could also tell you that it's gotten me into a lot of trouble.
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SPEAKER_00: Right no but but the point is is that that won over somebody else telling you something even though the peer pressure could have been huge.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah right yeah I I hate peer pressure um it's the idea of like telling a kid to like not dream so big or not be you know not yeah we'll show you when you're five at five we'll you'll know go be more practical and you know put something else on your resume so you can get into a good college I I really actually grew up in that that's like the Rebbe Sichha and the famous Sikha from I think it's Lemid Hay in uh the fi uh I'm mix I may be mixing up years.
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SPEAKER_00: Tess Zion Thomas it may have been Lemethe or Memhe and the Rebbe when when was Yud Shvat?
42:55
SPEAKER_00: Was Yud Shvathan Yut right so it makes sense that okay I don't know the dates I'm not so good in dates.
43:04
SPEAKER_00: Anyways the Rebbe speaks about in this Febrain that somebody said to him a wild thing what was the wild thing somebody wrote to him that he was by the Friday Rebbe's funeral and the Rebbe starts talking about there was no funeral okay this is 30 years later man okay so I'm not gonna go down that political um icy mountain but the Rebbe goes on to say I'm not sure if it's the same for Bregen or alongside that for Bragen where he says that there's a person who speaks about mashiach every every Shabbos and he literally uses the expression and he shoves it down everybody's throat and on and on and on and then the Rebbe says so they come to the conclusion that he's a dreamer.
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SPEAKER_00: He's a dreamer Okay.
44:01
SPEAKER_00: Now stop there for a second.
44:02
SPEAKER_00: I know I'm thinking this for the first time.
44:04
SPEAKER_00: When the revenue he's obviously talking about himself.
44:10
SPEAKER_00: If it was you saying it and you really, you know, were doing this it was really you and you're saying that everyone thinks you're a dreamer.
44:21
SPEAKER_00: What would be your emotional state at that point of the saying that?
44:25
SPEAKER_00: What do you think?
44:29
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
44:31
SPEAKER_00: Well, you just told me.
44:33
SPEAKER_00: People always call you a dreamer and call you, you know, you're too happy.
44:37
SPEAKER_00: What what when you push it back what does that make you feel?
44:44
SPEAKER_00: What is your feeling?
44:45
SPEAKER_00: If you can't answer, then you'll think about it next time.
44:47
SPEAKER_00: So the Rebbe says this and he goes and he quotes the f the Altarebbe in the Parts of Yeshiv, where the re altarabba says, Hainukelmim Shiramalois, you know, we were like dreamers.
45:02
SPEAKER_00: And basically says that the Altarebbe says, What's the dream?
45:07
SPEAKER_00: Meshiach or Gullus?
45:13
SPEAKER_00: And the answer is gullus is the dream.
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SPEAKER_00: Reality is Mashiach.
45:20
SPEAKER_00: And the Rebbe gives that answer at the Fabrina.
45:22
SPEAKER_00: You're right, I'm a dreamer.
45:27
SPEAKER_00: And all of you, he didn't say it in these words, but all of you think that I'm the dreamer because I don't live in reality.
45:37
SPEAKER_00: Right?
45:39
SPEAKER_00: And I'm not living in reality.
45:40
SPEAKER_00: And I'm gonna come to full circle.
45:43
SPEAKER_00: That is interesting that after I did this little stupid chat GPT that I'm so embarrassed about, um one of the things that came out, and all it is is journaling, basically, and you have someone to talk to, um, was that I came to the realization that what I had been writing about, one of the word one of the lines that it picked up from what I wrote, whatever, it was that what is um this a lot of stuff about is the power of above nature is nature.
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SPEAKER_00: Right?
46:22
SPEAKER_00: Hashem Elakeka, Hashem is above nature, Ukay Vavke is Elakekh is Yukaiek.
46:28
SPEAKER_00: Right?
46:28
SPEAKER_00: It's a simple Pshat, a Munnah brought down into Sekel, is also above nature is in nature.
46:37
SPEAKER_00: And I came to the realization that's what Meshik living is all about.
46:46
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so not no no big kiddish, I'm not saying you know big answers to big questions.
46:52
SPEAKER_00: Um But when you uh Zakaria turn to the people who say who say to you, don't be so happy, don't be so naive, don't be so whatever else would they say, and you say fangula you're being shikh like because you're living above nature, because that is nature, that they're gonna tell you that.
47:25
SPEAKER_00: Life sucks, there's a lot of problems, and they want to, you know, in advance tell you that things happen, and you shouldn't, yeah, you shouldn't be so okay.
47:37
SPEAKER_00: So um so what's you know, maybe I'll just say like this.
47:46
SPEAKER_00: I saw an amazing line in Derechhaim from the Mitlarebs and Minhug.
47:52
SPEAKER_00: You know, Lababich used to be a Minhug, whatever, to learn Derechim from the Mitlarebbe on the month of Ella.
47:57
SPEAKER_00: It's all about shuva and sin and all that stuff we never mentioned.
48:02
SPEAKER_00: But the but the Mitlurebba says something that's quite astounding.
48:07
SPEAKER_00: He basically is saying in the first few chapters that there's a difference between the sin that you do and the precurs oil and the removal or the abandonment of the yoke of heaven that leads you to do the sin.
48:22
SPEAKER_00: They're not the synonymous, the real Avera, yes.
48:25
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they're not synonymous.
48:27
SPEAKER_00: The reality that there's a king in the world is telling you what to do, right?
48:32
SPEAKER_00: And the focus on the king.
48:35
SPEAKER_00: And he says, Prekus oil, how would you say that in English?
48:43
SPEAKER_02: Um taking off and abandoning the yoke.
48:46
SPEAKER_00: Throwing away the yoke of heaven is what it says in the Pasik, because you didn't serve God bis simcha, that's why you're serving all your enemies.
48:58
SPEAKER_00: Right?
48:58
SPEAKER_00: Takhasharloi Vatakasva Kakha, you didn't serve God with simcha, with a happy heart, therefore you're serving all your enemies.
49:07
SPEAKER_00: And the simple chasidik in that is you don't feel you're meeting God when you do a misvah.
49:14
SPEAKER_00: You don't feel you're meeting God when you, you know, whatever it is that you're doing in Yiddishkait.
49:22
SPEAKER_00: He says that's synonymous, it's precursor.
49:27
SPEAKER_00: Okay, and then says, not quite in a segue, but he says, if you lament who you are, and you talk about how bad you are, and you beat yourself up because of all those things that we like to do when we beat ourselves up, right?
49:44
SPEAKER_00: I'm no good, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
49:46
SPEAKER_00: And you think that's chuva?
49:47
SPEAKER_00: So he says, if you focus on your negative, which could bring you to tears, right?
49:54
SPEAKER_00: And you're not Bisimcha, it's not really chuva.
50:00
SPEAKER_00: Why?
50:02
SPEAKER_00: Because he's saying you're feeling bad about where you've been is because you want to be close to God.
50:11
SPEAKER_00: And if you're feeling that your chuva, so-called, is not simultaneously bringing you to God, then you're not basimcha.
50:23
SPEAKER_00: And if it is bringing you to God, you are basimcha.
50:26
SPEAKER_00: And that's what it means.
50:27
SPEAKER_00: Precurs oil is that you can do mitzvahs without being basimcha.
50:32
SPEAKER_00: He doesn't quite say it as openly, but that's what he's saying there.
50:36
SPEAKER_00: That's a level of precurs oil.
50:39
SPEAKER_00: So, what I'm saying to you is that's we want all these things that we speak about connection and love and and uh support and what else.
50:51
SPEAKER_00: Let's throw a few more psychological stuff for our T group, ends up to be exactly what it says in the past yeah, about God.
51:03
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
51:03
SPEAKER_00: And the opposite is pre-casol.
51:06
SPEAKER_00: So ultimately, ultimately, you embrace Zakharia, your happiness, as long as it's true happiness and simcha, and you're doing what you're doing in Yiddishkite, and tell everybody else that they have to look up the Nashtay Chabad magazine to find a therapist or a Mashpiya.tv studio.