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- 0:04Speaker 1: Hey, I'm welcome to the Short Stuff. I'm Josh, and
- 0:06Speaker 1: there's Chuck and Jerry's here too.
- 0:08Speaker 2: Get ready for a contentious Short Stuff episode.
- 0:11Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be contentious because I think
- 0:13Speaker 1: it's just right. And I think that once you've learned this,
- 0:17Speaker 1: you actually feel like if it was contentious to you before,
- 0:20Speaker 1: you might feel like a bit of jackass. I know
- 0:22Speaker 1: I did.
- 0:24Speaker 2: Oh, I'm gonna have some things to say.
- 0:25Speaker 1: Well, let's get into it, okay. You know, Chuck, when
- 0:29Speaker 1: you see a sign you're cruising it on the highway.
- 0:32Speaker 2: Yeah, baby, you got the wind, Yeah, got windows down,
- 0:36Speaker 2: you got bugs on your teeth, yeah, yeah, the whole shebang, right,
- 0:39Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden there's a sign up
- 0:42Speaker 2: ahead that says the lane you're in right now, buddy,
- 0:46Speaker 2: is going to be closing in about a thousand or
- 0:49Speaker 2: so feet.
- 0:50Speaker 1: That's verbatim, by the way.
- 0:51Speaker 2: Yeah, you jam on the brakes and you get over.
- 0:53Speaker 1: Yeah as fast as you can, probably knock another car
- 0:56Speaker 1: out of the lane next to you as you get
- 0:58Speaker 1: into it. But right after you get it, you come
- 1:01Speaker 1: to almost a complete stop because everyone in the lane
- 1:04Speaker 1: you were just in did the same thing. And by
- 1:06Speaker 1: merging suddenly with another lane, it basically brings traffic to
- 1:10Speaker 1: a halt, and it actually is a fairly dangerous thing
- 1:13Speaker 1: to do, especially at higher speeds. Yeah, there's another way. Well,
- 1:19Speaker 1: as you put this one together and you said, there
- 1:21Speaker 1: are two ways. That first way, which you just mentioned
- 1:24Speaker 1: just getting right over. The second way, which is to
- 1:27Speaker 1: wait until that lane basically runs out and then hop over.
- 1:33Speaker 1: Now there is a third way, which is.
- 1:36Speaker 2: Just drive until you see someone sitting on their phone,
- 1:39Speaker 2: leaving a seven car gap between them, and then you
- 1:43Speaker 2: just pop over there. Yes, and it's a joke, but
- 1:46Speaker 2: it's really not.
- 1:47Speaker 1: No, because the people who stay in that lane that's
- 1:51Speaker 1: being shut down and are able to get way far
- 1:54Speaker 1: ahead of everybody else in the lane that's the through
- 1:57Speaker 1: lane that's not being shut down that everybody had to
- 1:59Speaker 1: get over into, they're not actually jerks. They Okay, they
- 2:03Speaker 1: may be jerks because they might not actually know this
- 2:06Speaker 1: is the thing you're supposed to do, but they're actually
- 2:09Speaker 1: know it or not doing the thing you're supposed to do.
- 2:12Speaker 1: It's called zipper merging, and you're supposed to essentially stay
- 2:15Speaker 1: in that lane that's getting shut down until the last
- 2:18Speaker 1: possible moment. You're not supposed to get over before then,
- 2:21Speaker 1: because when you do, all sorts of bad things happen.
- 2:23Speaker 1: You just stay in that lane and somebody in the
- 2:25Speaker 1: next lane lets you in and you just zoom on through.
- 2:29Speaker 2: All right. So here's my first problem with that is
- 2:34Speaker 2: what happens is you get to the end of that
- 2:36Speaker 2: thing and it's called an alternate merge, which means you
- 2:40Speaker 2: alternate and everyone goes, you go, I go, I go.
- 2:43Speaker 2: That's not what happens in today's America, though. People are jerks,
- 2:47Speaker 2: and they they hug the mumper in front of them
- 2:50Speaker 2: and say, you're not getting in front of me. And
- 2:53Speaker 2: that's what comes up the works is people wait till
- 2:55Speaker 2: the last minute and then get into a battle of
- 2:58Speaker 2: wills because people don't take turns. If people took turns,
- 3:02Speaker 2: this would be as beautiful as the Germans call it
- 3:06Speaker 2: rice ver Schluz, which means zipper, the rice ver Schluze system,
- 3:10Speaker 2: the Zipper merge. It is beautiful and elegant, except for
- 3:14Speaker 2: the fact that Americans are jerks in their cars and
- 3:17Speaker 2: don't let people in and don't take turns.
- 3:20Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
- 3:22Speaker 1: Kind of I mean, I know what you mean, but
- 3:24Speaker 1: I don't fully agree with it, I guess is what
- 3:26Speaker 1: I was trying to say.
- 3:27Speaker 2: That people do that.
- 3:29Speaker 1: No, no, no, I think they definitely do do that, but
- 3:31Speaker 1: that's not the thing that holds everything up. Let's let's
- 3:35Speaker 1: take a break and we'll come back and I will
- 3:36Speaker 1: explain my position.
- 3:38Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Well, now we're on the road, driving
- 3:42Speaker 2: in your truck.
- 3:43Speaker 3: Want to learn a thing or two from Josh Chuck.
- 3:47Speaker 3: It's stuff you should know, all right, all right, explain away, buddy.
- 4:15Speaker 1: Okay, I'm explaining. Get this. Yes, that causes a slowdown
- 4:19Speaker 1: for the people in the right lane, the lane that's
- 4:23Speaker 1: being shut down, But that is generally insignificant for that
- 4:27Speaker 1: person because that one jerk who's hugging the bumper of
- 4:30Speaker 1: the person in front of and won't let them in
- 4:31Speaker 1: purposely won't let them in. There's maybe three or four
- 4:34Speaker 1: of those people in a row before somebody, like you said,
- 4:37Speaker 1: is either not paying attention or is kind harder enough
- 4:41Speaker 1: to be like, all right, go ahead, get in, all right. So, yes,
- 4:44Speaker 1: it's a bit of a slowdown for the people in
- 4:46Speaker 1: the shutdown lane.
- 4:47Speaker 2: What not like it would be if everyone just tried
- 4:50Speaker 2: to jump over. Yes, that's what you're saying.
- 4:52Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the problem. That's the slowdown. The people who
- 4:56Speaker 1: are getting over from the lane that's being shut down. Prima.
- 5:00Speaker 1: Surely when you get over at any point before the
- 5:03Speaker 1: last possible point to get over, if you get over
- 5:06Speaker 1: at any point before then, you are shooting yourself in
- 5:09Speaker 1: the foot and everybody else because you you are causing
- 5:14Speaker 1: the slow down. You are the reason that this lane
- 5:17Speaker 1: is suddenly bumpered a bumper because now we lane and
- 5:20Speaker 1: have gotten the through lane that everybody in the closed
- 5:23Speaker 1: down lane had to get into. You're the reason that
- 5:26Speaker 1: that slowed down and that that's bumper a bumper, and
- 5:28Speaker 1: that people are kicked off because an unfair advantage has
- 5:33Speaker 1: this been created for the people who are doing what
- 5:36Speaker 1: you're supposed to do and staying in the closing lane
- 5:39Speaker 1: until the last possible minute.
- 5:41Speaker 2: In zipper merging, all right, let me ask you this,
- 5:44Speaker 2: is there any data on because there is some data
- 5:48Speaker 2: that you found that says if you zipper merge effectively,
- 5:53Speaker 2: which never happens, but let's just say it does, it
- 5:56Speaker 2: cuts congestion by.
- 5:58Speaker 1: Fort get's huge.
- 6:00Speaker 3: It's huge.
- 6:01Speaker 2: Uh, it is gonna reduce crashes because people are getting
- 6:06Speaker 2: I have an issue with this one. People are getting
- 6:09Speaker 2: over at the same rate of speed as the people
- 6:11Speaker 2: in the through lane. But I generally think this happens
- 6:14Speaker 2: when traffic is pretty slow, so it's not like you
- 6:17Speaker 2: usually don't see a zipper merge happening when people are
- 6:19Speaker 2: going like seventy miles an hour.
- 6:21Speaker 1: No, some people really haul and then zip into like
- 6:24Speaker 1: a spot all of a sudden, and they have to
- 6:26Speaker 1: basically slam on their brakes because they just move through
- 6:29Speaker 1: a quick movement over that's forced by the fact that
- 6:33Speaker 1: people in the through lane aren't zipper merging they got
- 6:36Speaker 1: over too early.
- 6:38Speaker 2: Well, my question though, is if you're in the end
- 6:40Speaker 2: you may not know this, but if you're in the
- 6:42Speaker 2: through lane, I probably do and people are are. Are
- 6:47Speaker 2: you see them zippering over and non zippering over? Like
- 6:49Speaker 2: should you get over one lane to the left or
- 6:52Speaker 2: does that come up the works? Or should you hold
- 6:53Speaker 2: the lane?
- 6:55Speaker 1: Uh? I don't understand fully, say say it again. So
- 6:59Speaker 1: you're in there, you're driving along the lane that's not
- 7:02Speaker 1: being shut down.
- 7:03Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and people to your right are either jumping
- 7:05Speaker 2: over right in front of you or zipper merging correctly. Like,
- 7:08Speaker 2: should you jump over a lane just to sort of decongest.
- 7:11Speaker 1: Yes, that's one thing that you can do.
- 7:14Speaker 2: But I try to do that because I just don't
- 7:16Speaker 2: want to be I don't want to be a part
- 7:17Speaker 2: of that whole scene.
- 7:18Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, not only that, by getting over as far
- 7:20Speaker 1: as you can away from this terrible miss zipped merge,
- 7:25Speaker 1: you're actually saving yourself a lot of time at heartache.
- 7:27Speaker 1: You're just getting away from the whole ugly mass. Right, Yes,
- 7:31Speaker 1: that's one thing you can do. You can either slow
- 7:33Speaker 1: your roll a little bit to let somebody zipper merge
- 7:35Speaker 1: in front of you, or you can move over to
- 7:37Speaker 1: create space for them to get into at that zipper
- 7:40Speaker 1: merge point. Either one is totally acceptable and a nice
- 7:43Speaker 1: good thing to do. So yeah, sure I did know
- 7:46Speaker 1: the answer to your question. Okay, good to know.
- 7:50Speaker 2: Here's my deal is. I used to get over early,
- 7:54Speaker 2: but I wouldn't like stop the traffic in that merging
- 7:58Speaker 2: lane to do it. I would just see an opening
- 8:00Speaker 2: and do it. And if it was early, it's early.
- 8:04Speaker 2: Now I kind of like, there's so many people on
- 8:06Speaker 2: their phones now. Now I tend to wait to the
- 8:09Speaker 2: end because you can generally get over. Yeah, for sure
- 8:12Speaker 2: without causing any issue. My big problem is not when
- 8:16Speaker 2: it's like a legitimate sort of alternate merge and a
- 8:19Speaker 2: lane merging. My problem, and it's when the person is like, hey,
- 8:25Speaker 2: you know the highway splits. If you want to go
- 8:27Speaker 2: on this highway, you're going that way, and you've got
- 8:30Speaker 2: a bunch of people waiting because traffic's backed up, and
- 8:32Speaker 2: someone just rides to there's basically no road and tries
- 8:37Speaker 2: to jump over, which is not the same thing.
- 8:39Speaker 1: So if you have a lane that runs out right
- 8:42Speaker 1: in a lane, I'm not talking about a lane running
- 8:44Speaker 1: out then yeah, you're talking about for sure. Okay, for
- 8:47Speaker 1: sure they're being pushy, and we should explain to some
- 8:49Speaker 1: of our listeners and who aren't in the United States,
- 8:51Speaker 1: because I don't know that this fully applies. I know
- 8:55Speaker 1: in Germany it sounds like people are ziper merging like
- 8:58Speaker 1: there's no tomorrow and they're doing really right. But the
- 9:01Speaker 1: reason people get over prematurely rather than zipper merge on
- 9:06Speaker 1: American highways is because that seems like the fairest thing
- 9:11Speaker 1: to do. And so if you're doing that, if you're
- 9:14Speaker 1: not taking your rightful place in the back of the
- 9:16Speaker 1: line of this long, unnecessarily slow line of traffic. What
- 9:22Speaker 1: you're doing is jumping in line. And there are very
- 9:25Speaker 1: few things that drive Americans crazier, especially once you have
- 9:29Speaker 1: a finely tuned sense of day to day justice. Right,
- 9:33Speaker 1: somebody jumping ahead in line, cutting in line. So even
- 9:37Speaker 1: though you're zipper merging correctly, you're going into last minute
- 9:40Speaker 1: and getting over, you're not trying to jump in line.
- 9:43Speaker 1: It's just no one else knows what you know. There's
- 9:47Speaker 1: a real danger that somebody might try to shoot you.
- 9:52Speaker 1: In the United States is very very slim. The incidents
- 9:56Speaker 1: of road radge that result in like gunplay are really
- 9:59Speaker 1: hype and talked about in the United States, but statistically speaking,
- 10:03Speaker 1: it's really rare. But there's a real chance that you
- 10:07Speaker 1: might anger somebody by being so unfair by cutting in line,
- 10:10Speaker 1: that they might chase you in their car and shoot
- 10:12Speaker 1: at you while you're driving your car. This is another
- 10:15Speaker 1: reason why people don't do this.
- 10:17Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, beyond that rarity, it is just out
- 10:22Speaker 2: of hand in the United States, where like if you
- 10:25Speaker 2: accidentally cut someone off on the highway, like people in
- 10:29Speaker 2: the United States will get out of that lane, speed up,
- 10:33Speaker 2: get in front of you, and slam on the brakes
- 10:36Speaker 2: to pay you back and potentially wreck themselves. It's nuts
- 10:41Speaker 2: how people act in their cars. It's so out of
- 10:44Speaker 2: hand and like God, everybody just needs to get it together.
- 10:49Speaker 2: Australia is at my experience driving there, they drove the
- 10:53Speaker 2: speed limit. If you came up behind someone on the highway,
- 10:55Speaker 2: they're like, ah, let's get over out of your way.
- 10:57Speaker 2: Then it was everyone that's more New Zealand, but everybody
- 11:02Speaker 2: was just so civil on the roads. And you know,
- 11:06Speaker 2: we might have Assie's right in and say like that's
- 11:08Speaker 2: not the deal mate in the cities or whatever. But
- 11:11Speaker 2: when I was driving around the highways over there, I
- 11:13Speaker 2: just found everything from moving about in the airport on
- 11:16Speaker 2: foot to driving around people were generally just like, no,
- 11:20Speaker 2: go ahead, it's fine.
- 11:22Speaker 1: Canada is very similar to that, nice nicer people. So yeah,
- 11:26Speaker 1: it's almost like Americans are like deeply angry and divided
- 11:30Speaker 1: for some reason. It's a.
- 11:33Speaker 2: Lot of states, though, as you found, have put a
- 11:35Speaker 2: lot of money into educational campaigns. Signage, for instance, use
- 11:41Speaker 2: both lanes to merge point, like until you get to
- 11:44Speaker 2: the merge point. Stuff like that, Like they're trying to
- 11:48Speaker 2: get the word out by spending money and saying, hey,
- 11:51Speaker 2: the zipper merge is where it's at if you're doing
- 11:55Speaker 2: it right. But it's just there's so much, like you
- 11:57Speaker 2: point out, there's so much sort of habit and muscle
- 12:01Speaker 2: memory and how people drive and not wanting to risk
- 12:04Speaker 2: getting flicked off or whatever. And by the way, don't
- 12:07Speaker 2: shoot birds in your carry there. That's that's two eighties, like,
- 12:10Speaker 2: don't do that.
- 12:11Speaker 1: Yeah, And if someone tries to pass you at like
- 12:13Speaker 1: a normal rate because you're going slower than they are
- 12:15Speaker 1: in the lane that you shouldn't be in, don't speed
- 12:18Speaker 1: up so they can't pass you. That makes you literally
- 12:21Speaker 1: the worst person on the road in your area. Like
- 12:25Speaker 1: you're a terrible person right then you might not be
- 12:27Speaker 1: in general. The car brings terrible things out and people,
- 12:30Speaker 1: I get that, but in that moment, you're a terrible person,
- 12:35Speaker 1: a jerk.
- 12:36Speaker 2: And get out of the left lane for goodness.
- 12:37Speaker 1: Sake for sure. So some states actually have instituted zipper
- 12:41Speaker 1: merging as a rule. In Illinois, if you keep somebody
- 12:45Speaker 1: from merging over into a through lane from a lane
- 12:47Speaker 1: that's shut down or that's ending, you could be fined.
- 12:50Speaker 1: You could be pulled over and they could smack the
- 12:54Speaker 1: back of your calves with their nightsticks just for doing that.
- 12:58Speaker 2: In Illinois, because there's always a police cruis are there
- 13:01Speaker 2: when you need them in traffic.
- 13:02Speaker 1: Right exactly exactly.
- 13:04Speaker 2: Like when you're going seventy five miles an hour down
- 13:06Speaker 2: the highway and you look over and you pass someone
- 13:09Speaker 2: that is literally staring in their lap at on a
- 13:11Speaker 2: cell phone going like forty seven miles an hour.
- 13:14Speaker 1: I know, and I'm sure we sound old, but listen up,
- 13:16Speaker 1: everybody who drives looking at their phone, like watching video
- 13:20Speaker 1: on their phone. Stop doing that. Please stop doing that immediately.
- 13:24Speaker 2: You're gonna kill somebody.
- 13:25Speaker 1: Yep. There is one other thing about this though. States
- 13:28Speaker 1: have found that if you put up an extra sign
- 13:30Speaker 1: or two that says literally use both lanes to merge point,
- 13:36Speaker 1: most people will figure out what you're saying and they
- 13:39Speaker 1: actually like huh, they actually do the zipper merging.
- 13:43Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, I'm down. I mean, Luckily, I don't have
- 13:47Speaker 2: to drive on the highway very much because my you know,
- 13:52Speaker 2: even when we were commuting to the studio a lot,
- 13:54Speaker 2: it was just back road. So since we moved out
- 13:57Speaker 2: a bucket, I don't have to get in Atlanta highway
- 13:59Speaker 2: trap much. But you know I'm gonna I'm gonna zipper
- 14:03Speaker 2: merge from here on out.
- 14:04Speaker 1: Me too, buddy. And we should also say, I don't
- 14:07Speaker 1: know if we said the reason why they call it
- 14:08Speaker 1: zipper merges. If you look overhead at that merge point,
- 14:12Speaker 1: it looks like the cars are zipping up, and one
- 14:14Speaker 1: of the orange construction cones looks like the tip of
- 14:17Speaker 1: a penis caught in the zipper.
- 14:20Speaker 2: Is that short?
- 14:21Speaker 3: Stuff out?
- 14:22Speaker 1: Yeah?
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