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🎪 DNA Tests, Secret Families & Shocking Inheritance Drama | Family Secrets & True Stories · This Is My Circus

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  I'm Stephanie.
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  I'm Meredith.
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  And welcome to This Is My Thanksgiving Month Circus.
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  We are past spoo- spooky circus.
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  That just rolled right off the tongue.
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  I was trying to think of something more clever, but it wasn't coming.
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  You know, sometimes some- sometimes planning ahead helps a little bit.
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  The brain wasn't braining.
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  No, it's okay.
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  It's okay.
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  We get it.
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  I was gonna say, like, my Thankful Circus, but that didn't sound right.
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  A Thankful Circus?
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  Yeah.
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  No, it really didn't.
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  Mm-mm.
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  How about- secret circus.
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  Yeah.
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  It'd be like a secret Santa.
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  Yeah?
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  Okay.
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  All right.
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  We'll just stick with Thanksgiving month.
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  Yeah, that works.
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  Okay.
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  Okay.
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  Glad we got that knocked out.
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  So how did senior night go?
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  It went really well.
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  I was terrified that I was just gonna be a blubbering mess, we were supposed to be there at, like, 6:45, 5:00 I just magically stopped crying.
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  Everything was fine.
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  It- You looked great thank you.
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  And it just went, it just went really well.
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  Good.
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  Thank goodness.
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  Good.
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  I'm glad.
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  And really haven't been emotional since.
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  So crazy.
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  It's like I was mentioning to you before, you just don't know how you're gonna react in those situations, and judging by what other people say or do doesn't really mean what you're gonna say and do, and so it was hard to gauge.
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  I really didn't know what was gonna go on, but it went well.
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  Yeah.
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  Thank you for asking.
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  Oh, you're welcome.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Did you have a good Halloween?
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  I did, yeah.
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  We went to the Belmont Drive-In, and- That's such a cool Halloween-y thing.
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  I love that.
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  The movies were Halloween and Nightmare on Elm Street.
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  Fun.
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  Um, they did have a third movie it was, like, a bonus movie, but we didn't know what it was gonna be, and we were just, it was- That already sounds like it's gonna be, like, 2:00 AM in the- Well, it was, like, 11:00 when we left same thing.
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  It was, like, the'70s,'80s movies, so they weren't two and a half hours long.
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  Right.
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  Right.
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  There.
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  I'm so used to in my head a movie being an hour and a half.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  So now when I go to the movies, and I'm like, it's an hour and a half into it and we're still not, winding down, I'm like,"Oh my gosh" Yeah how long does this thing last?
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Yeah.
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  But it was cool'cause, people are so, like, crafty.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  The people behind us had, like, this, like, super fall, like, Halloween aesthetic- Oh in the back of their truck.
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  It had, like, the pretty little pillows.
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  That's cute.
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  And yeah, it was, it was super cute.
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  And the people next to us had brought, a blow-up mattress for the back of their truck.
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  That's genius.
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  And he had dressed up like Michael Myers.
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  That's a lot of fun.
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  The dude.
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  And I was like, just kinda, like, side eyeing, like,"Ugh." Okay.
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  I was watching some TikToks, and same thing, people were dressed up, and not at a party, but, like, Halloween and dressed up just, walking down the road.
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  Uh-huh.
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  That would freak me out.
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  It's like the clowns we were talking about.
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  Right.
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  In the back of your mind, you know, it's not real.
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  Yeah.
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  Or it's not, true.
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  It's not, really a thing.
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  But just looking and seeing that, you're like,"Oh." Yeah.
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  Yeah, I know.
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  I am not that clever though, like, to- Mm-mm think ahead.
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  Mm-mm.
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  I'm kind of weird.
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  And I don't think I could carry it on.
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  I'd be like,"Ha ha, gotcha." I'd totally break character.
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  And I would probably, lose interest in 10 minutes.
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  The ADHD Yeah.
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  The squirrel brain.
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  Yes.
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  I'd be like,"Oh, this is fun for a hot second." Right, and then all of a sudden just mentally somewhere else.
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  Yeah.
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  And yeah, moved on.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  We had blankets and pillows and- Yeah all, like, those, and I had, my fluffy stadium chairs- Yes that I got, five years ago.
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  Perfect.
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  We used for, two seasons.
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  But, yeah, I, we had, like, comfortable stuff.
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  It just wasn't, the whole shebang.
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  Like, fall leaves- Yeah draped over the things.
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  Oh, they even had twinkle lights.
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  Oh, did they really?
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  Yeah, That's cute.
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  It was cute.
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  That sounds like a lot of effort.
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  It was, I'm sure.
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  But they probably did, their Instagram, whole, you know.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  It was, like, for the aesthetic.
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  Good point.
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  Yeah.
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  Good point.
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  Well, I hope they got a lot of followers off of that.
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  Yeah.
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  It was really cute.
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  So.
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  Good.
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  But that was, yeah, that was about it.
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  Good.
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  We went to, a football game.
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  We went to Wingate University.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  And that was fun to be there on Halloween.
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  They did some Halloween-y music and stuff.
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  Did you see the,.
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  so Florida State band, they did the Thriller performance at half ti- Like, they all put their instruments down and did Thriller, So imagine this whole football field- Mm-hmm filled with people.
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  It was, it looked so cool.
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  Yeah.
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  It looked so cool.
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  I, yeah, I don't, I, I don't- Yeah, no, it just popped up in my feed'cause it was Halloween-y, TikTok-y stuff.
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  The tickety-tock?
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  Tickety-tock.
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  Well, I had asked Dylan what he was doing, and, he ended up going out Friday night.
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  So I was waiting for him to text me back all day Saturday.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  He did not text me back all day so I'm driving to the drive-in, and I'm, texted him, like,"Are you alive?" Right.
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  'Cause you haven't responded all day.
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  Right.
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  I'm like,"What are you doing tonight?" And he's like,"Oh, I'm just gonna probably stay home and do a fire pit or whatever." I'm like,"Okay, well, I just wanted to make sure you're okay." Right.
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  For the life, yeah.
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  Well, he ended up going to Coyote Joe's.
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  Oh man, he really?
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  And he rode the bull.
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  I was like, did anybody get video?" And he's like, I don't know.
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  I gotta check." And I'm like,"Somebody got video." Somebody's got video somewhere.
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  If you were at Coyote Joe's on Halloween night, let us know.
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  If you saw a young, a young buck ride a bull.
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  So I got a, a giggle out of that.
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  That is great.
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  I used to go there all the time.
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  I went and, i'm glad he had a good time.
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  Yeah, that was our weekend.
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  Yeah.
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  Fun.
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  I saw Jackson got another offer.
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  He did.
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  Congratulations, Jackson.
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  He did.
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  Yeah.
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  Thank you.
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  Yay, Jay.
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  It was really good.
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  There was a ton of people, recruits there.
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  When you get there, you get there a little bit early, and they talk to you and give you, behind-the-scenes tour and stuff, and then you get to go down on the field, and it's so fun to feel special.
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  Everybody else is, like, coming down the main and looking in their seats, and they're just like,"Oh, yeah, you got your pass.
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  Come on in." Yeah.
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  And I was like...
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  And we actually didn't even have a pass.
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  We got there late.
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  And I was like,"He's a recruit." And they're like,"Oh yeah, come on in." So we actually know one of the coaches that's there- he used to coach at Clover and now he coaches at Wingate, and, he saw us and he was dapping us up and stuff.
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  But they had recruits lined all around the field, and it's, like recruits and then their parents or whoever, just like one or two people with them.
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  Well, his position coach came and got him he was like,"Can I steal him for a minute?" After he introduced himself.
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  I was like,"Yeah," and he took him back there, and that's a big deal.
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  They usually don't just come and get- Yeah they're focusing on the game they're getting ready to play in 45 minutes.
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  And Jackson, he tries to play it so cool.
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  So they were gone for I don't know how long, I literally have no idea.
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  But he comes back out and he's like,"Hey, what's up, Mama?" And I'm like,"Hey, bud" And he's just, smiling.
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  He's like,"You good?" And I'm like,"Yeah, are you good?" And he's like,"Yeah, I'm good." And he's just standing there smiling and cheesing.
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  Yeah.
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  And I'm like,"Well?" And he was like,"Well, I think he said..." He is so much like me.
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  We don't read between the lines well.
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  I need a we are giving you an offer, kind of statement.
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  And Jas is so good.
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  She helps me with this.
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  She's like,"This is what they're saying." Uh-huh.
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  Because I'm a black and white.
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  And, he was like,"I think they did, but they said they can't, confirm, the actual, scholarship piece," like the money part,"until a certain time." Which makes sense because there's people still transferring in and out right now.
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  There's still a lot going on, and they don't know budgets, all those things.
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  So he was like,"I think they did, but I, I'm not sure if they did and, but they said that they like me," and he's smiling- Yeah the whole time, right?
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  And then the coach that we know, Coach Ashmore, came out, and I was like, can you just tell me what that" He was like,"Oh, that's an offer." I was like,"Is that official?
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  Can we..."'Cause, you know, kids wanna post it.
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  It's exciting.
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  They wanna do the th- I wanna post it.
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  I'm excited.
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  Yeah.
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  And you also don't wanna look stupid and post something or say something and it- You look bad, yeah right,'cause that's a bad look for you with everything.
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  And he was like,"Oh, yeah, you can do it.
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  You, that's legit." I was like,"Okay.
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  Thanks.
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  Just making sure." So yeah, it's exciting.
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  Good.
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  It's exciting.
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  They did not win Friday, but they're still in the playoffs, so playoffs happen this week.
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  We go to Lancaster, hopefully it'll go well.
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  A girl texted me today, by the way, was texting me about some Micah Miller stuff Oh, okay, yeah Sorry.
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  Er, change, buckle up- Yeah changing gears.
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  So her name is Lee.
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  I used to work with Lee, back at the eye doctor and- When you were a surgeon when I was a surgeon.
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  I'm still amazed Definitely not a surgeon.
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  Just handed them some instruments and pushed some buttons and stuff.
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  No, the day that you said,"When I was a surgeon" I was like- excuse me?
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  But Lee knew that we were obsessed with it and she was sharing some stuff and we were like fact-checking and looking at it, and she was like,"By the way, love the podcast." Just another one of those I didn't know that you listened.
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  Yeah.
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  So, hey, Lee.
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  Hi.
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  Hey, girl.
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  We love you.
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  We do love you.
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  We appreciate you.
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  Thank you.
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  Thank you for listening.
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  Yes.
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  So what else?
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  What are we talking about today?
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  Ooh, family drama.
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  Mine or yours?
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  Lord have mercy.
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  There's not enough hours on this, uh, recording software for that.
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  Nobody wants to know this.
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  Okay, so I found a pretty funny, well, not funny, tell me what you would do.
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  Okay you are married for 10 years.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  You just do a DNA test'cause you wanted to research your family tree, and you find out that you are cousins with your husband.
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  I would freak out.
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  Yeah, so Selena and Joseph Quiñones, I think is how you say that name, married in 2006, had three children.
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  Years into their marriage, 10 years to be exact, Selena researched her ancestry and discovered that her husband was also a genetic relative, ended up being a cousin.
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  And, she talked about it on TikTok, and it made her account go viral in 2023.
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  Is that what you wanna go viral for?
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  No.
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  Mm-mm.
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  I don't really want anybody- I wouldn't, I don't think I would say that.
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  I wouldn't tell anybody.
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  Oh my God.
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  I would just silently get an annulment.
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  I would be- Or you've got three children.
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  Oh my God.
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  Do we know how close of relatives they are?
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  I didn't say, it just said cousins.
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  Okay.
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  There was a People Magazine article that said cousins.
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  Hopefully...
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  Yeah, I didn't go, down the rabbit hole- Yeah, yeah of her account'cause that would've taken too long to- Yeah scroll through.
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  Oh my gosh.
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  But, yeah, so would you...
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  obviously I wouldn't go online.
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  No.
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  Would you take another test?
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  W- would you just close your laptop and pretend it didn't happen?
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  Like I don't, I- I think I would take another, I know I would take another test.
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  They are still married, and she said that they are closer than ever.
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  Literally closer than ever, but, like, closer than ever.
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  Okay, so I would definitely take another test, and then I don't think I would tell anybody ever.
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  Yeah, I don't either.
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  And I would change my name on the software to, something totally random.
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  Would you stay married?
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  I mean, you've already done the deed, the- Right For 10 plus years.
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  I'm trying to determine, do I even tell Brian?
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  'Cause Brian's gonna freak out if he thinks we're related.
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  I mean, I'm already freaking out, and if Brian's freaking out, do I just, all of a sudden we're getting a divorce kind of thing?
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  And then I'm thinking, people that are adopted.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  I would have to do a DNA test before I ever- Mm-hmm, mm-hmm dated somebody.
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  Right.
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  Like, we- Right I know we just met, but- Right.
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  Can I get...
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  Before, before we- Can, can I swab your cheek?
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  Before we take that next step.
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  Let me swab your cheek with this Q-tip instead of my tongue.
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  Yeah.
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  No, that's crazy.
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  Right?
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  Oh my goodness.
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  I'm sure there's a lot of those, but I can't believe she posted that.
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  I'm like,"Girl." Did a whole, story- Storytime?
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  Like, several part series.
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  She's probably making money off of...
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  Okay, so if you're gonna make...
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  I don't even know how much money.
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  Yeah.
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  I don't think I would either.
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  I'd be mortified.
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  Because you're still married, and, you're still like,"I'm happier than ever," but everybody knows you're cousins.
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  I still don't, I still don't...
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  No.
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  Well, you know, back in the day, everybody used to marry their cousins anyway.
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  We're not back in the day.
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  No, we're not there.
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  We have evolved.
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  Well, and there, there was, the, the reason for that was for them to keep the wealth in their family.
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  Yeah.
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  And, like, the, the names- The lineage the titles- Yeah yeah, the land and all the things.
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  I ain't got none of that.
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  No.
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  That is crazy.
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  Right?
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  And then, like, how far of distance, like, how- Right how many degrees of cousins Well, how many degrees of Kevin Bacon separation?
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  If I'm not mistaken, the laws for the, probably this part of the country, the Southeast, you can marry'em if they're, like, your third cousin, but not second, or something like that.
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  It's illegal.
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  Not only is it gross- I, oh, God, I don't know.
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  There's no way I would go to TikTok- No.
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  No way bananas.
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  I'm trying to even think of something to compare that to, and I can't.
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  That needs to stay in the closet, keep that skeleton locked in there, and just hope your kids are okay.
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  This whole thing is just bananas.
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  Yeah.
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  I just don't get it.
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  Hopefully they were far enough apart that their kids don't have any...
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  But then your kids know too.
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  Oh my gosh, there's so many levels of, like, WTF- Yeah to this.
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  But the only positive I can think of So it really eliminates whose family's house are we going to for holidays.
• 12:31
  True.
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  But still.
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  Oh, that's gro- that's gross.
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  That gives me the creeps.
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  And then how did nobody know?
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  Yeah.
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  So that makes me think they're, far enough apart that,'Cause I'm sure I have cousins, way out here.
• 12:42
  I know.
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  But I- I'm just like, that is, like, freaks me out Me too.
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  Oh my gosh.
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  So there's our first- I hope that's not offensive to any of our listeners.
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  But if we do have any listeners that are married to their relatives, let us know.
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  You can be anonymous.
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  We wanna know the details.
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  Definitely.
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  Did you find any, crazy stories?
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  Just personal ones.
• 13:03
  Let's hear personal before we go into the next, grandfather has four wives.
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  So, my sister is, the lineage person in our family.
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  Okay.
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  Between the two of us, she's the one who keeps it kinda...
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  She knows the stories, and she does the Ancestry stuff.
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  We both have, we've both done the DNA stuff.
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  And you can build your family tree, but I just, copy and pasted hers and put it on mine.
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  It's perfect.
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  She did all the work.
• 13:28
  Yeah.
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  Mine looks good.
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  So I was asking her about some, weird family things, and a couple of them I'm gonna save for other weeks that we have.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  But I do have a relative who smuggled a prince out of Scotland.
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  You have the craziest stories.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Tell me about it.
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  Thank you, Posey, for, for this.
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  So this is my mom's side.
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  So this is my mom's mom, so maternal grandmother, in Scotland.
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  Her name was Flora MacDonald.
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  She was, helping the Bonnie Prince Charles, is that his name?
• 13:58
  I don't know, we'll get there.
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  So, she was from Scotland.
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  She grew up when there was a lot of conflict in Britain and Scotland and that whole area, like the Jacobite rebellion, and you might have heard some of that stuff.
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  Like Outlander, did you watch Outlander?
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  Oh, well, if you did it's like that time.
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  You know what I'm talking about.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  So it's 18th century, so like castles and clans and political drama and fighting over who gets the crown.
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  So Bonnie Prince Charlie was Charles Edward Stuart.
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  Okay.
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  That was his really name, his real name.
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  So he's the grandson of King James II, and he believed that his family should be restored to the British throne.
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  He led the Jacobite uprising So he was a big deal.
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  Uh-huh.
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  He wasn't just, random, like, a side prince.
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  He was the real deal.
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  So, he's trying to get his family back on the throne.
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  There's the Battle of Culloden.
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  That's a big battle in Scotland.
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  It was in 1746.
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  His army was defeated.
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  It was devastating, so he fled and he was a fugitive- Okay this prince.
• 14:53
  Um, the government troops searched and they were trying to find him.
• 14:57
  So basically he just starts this rebellion and then he, spectacularly loses and he's just, running for it, right?
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  And now you wanted to be king and you're just, hiding in a tree house.
• 15:05
  But whatever, I digress.
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  So here's comes Flora, which is my relative.
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  So my grandmother's last name was McConnell- Uh-huh which is a derivative of MacDonald, like all the clans and stuff that they have going on up there.
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  So Flora was about 24 years old at this time, and she encountered people helping the fugitive prince, so she helped him escape from this part of Scotland and went to the Isle of Skye.
• 15:31
  So now in my head I'm thinking, she had an affair with the prince, and now you're really royalty.
• 15:35
  Could be true.
• 15:36
  I'm just saying.
• 15:37
  Could be true.
• 15:38
  Not only are we mermaids, but now you are a royal.
• 15:41
  I'm a royal.
• 15:43
  But, did the whole disguises and fake trackel, travel documents and everything.
• 15:47
  And this is really well documented.
• 15:48
  This isn't just Posey, like, going on a rant about something that could really happen.
• 15:52
  So, they dressed the Bonnie Prince Charlie as a woman.
• 15:56
  Uh-huh.
• 15:56
  He was dressed as an Irish maid.
• 15:57
  His name was Betty Burke.
• 15:59
  And Flora pretended that he was traveling as her servant.
• 16:03
  And, they crossed by water on the boat and, going to the Isle of Skye.
• 16:10
  So he was just going back and forth.
• 16:12
  He escaped Scotland and went all the way to France, and she helped him do that too.
• 16:17
  Her role was famous because he was dressed up as her servant person.
• 16:22
  And then she gets arrested for her part and, and everything.
• 16:26
  She was held in custody, including the Tower of London.
• 16:29
  That's a huge, you know- Wow.
• 16:30
  Yeah.
• 16:31
  She was released, but she did become like a local celebrity at the time for helping this prince.
• 16:37
  So he got away.
• 16:38
  She got arrested, so right, like typical man, like you take the rap.
• 16:43
  But she moved to North Carolina.
• 16:45
  Okay.
• 16:45
  And, um, they lived in, uh, Cape Fear, like coastal, and they lived there for a long time.
• 16:55
  And she actually went back, to Scotland, and that's where she died in like 1790 or something like that.
• 17:00
  But I just thought that was really, really cool.
• 17:02
  That is really cool.
• 17:03
  So it's not like a bad secret, scary secret, but she did help somebody with some fugitive-y stuff.
• 17:09
  Oh, that's really cool.
• 17:11
  Yeah.
• 17:11
  And you might be royalty.
• 17:13
  That's the main part.
• 17:14
  Yes.
• 17:16
  I'm going to choose to believe that.
• 17:18
  Going to choose to believe that part of it.
• 17:19
  Yeah.
• 17:19
  Yeah.
• 17:20
  I just thought that was really cool.
• 17:21
  That is- So she, yeah, she remained loyal to the whole Bonnie Prince Charlie thing the whole time and had 10 toes behind what she was saying.
• 17:29
  Well, dang.
• 17:30
  Isn't that pretty cool?
• 17:30
  That is really cool.
• 17:31
  Yeah.
• 17:32
  Yeah.
• 17:32
  That is exciting life, especially for back then- Yeah for a woman.
• 17:35
  Mm-hmm.
• 17:36
  Did you ever watch the show Reign?
• 17:38
  Yes.
• 17:39
  Yeah.
• 17:39
  That was one with Mary, Queen of Scots, right?
• 17:41
  Uh-huh.
• 17:41
  Loved it.
• 17:41
  Yeah, I was gonna say, you would love that show.
• 17:43
  I loved it.
• 17:43
  Yeah.
• 17:43
  Well, I don't have any cool family stories like that.
• 17:47
  My family's basic.
• 17:49
  Well, none that I can share- That one on here.
• 17:52
  I have the serial killer one I'll tell.
• 17:54
  Yeah.
• 17:55
  And then I have another one about, Wealth.
• 17:58
  I don't have any of it I just have, my grandfather, was from what used to be Yugoslavia.
• 18:03
  So he came, right over on the boat.
• 18:05
  Mm-hmm.
• 18:06
  And my grandmother, he still spoke some of it, and my grandmother never could understand what he was saying when he spoke in Yugoslavian, so he would call her his little klava, which means cow.
• 18:18
  So she thought that he was calling- She did the face I just did- Yeah like,"Aw." Yeah, it sounds so sweet, but he was calling her a cow.
• 18:25
  She never knew.
• 18:26
  Man.
• 18:28
  I wonder what made him pick that word.
• 18:29
  And I think he told me this when I was, like, little, little, like, probably, four or five, and it just stuck with me- Mm-hmm like, for my entire life- Mm-hmm'cause I thought it was so funny because my grandmother was, still appalled- Yeah to that day.
• 18:38
  She was like- I'm sure she was like,"Walter," like- But what a story, though.
• 18:44
  I don't remember the exact details in this, but my grandfather and grandmother met and got married with in like weeks.
• 18:53
  Yeah.
• 18:54
  I don't...
• 18:54
  We could have to get Posey back on here- Yeah to tell us the details with that one, but maybe three weeks, I want to say, that they knew each other, and they got married, and then he was shipped off.
• 19:03
  It was in the'40s.
• 19:04
  Mm-hmm.
• 19:05
  So, yeah.
• 19:06
  Oh, wow.
• 19:06
  Yeah, so he was gone, and Betty was here and married and Sheesh.
• 19:12
  I mean, I'm sure that happened a lot during, wartime.
• 19:14
  Oh, yeah.
• 19:15
  Yeah.
• 19:15
  But yeah, that's crazy.
• 19:16
  It is.
• 19:17
  It is very crazy.
• 19:18
  And now here we are wanting to do background checks and I just don't want anybody to kill me.
• 19:23
  Swabs.
• 19:24
  They'll be swabbing everybody, but yeah, I'm sure that happened a lot.
• 19:27
  Well, even, my best friend Kristen, when she and her husband got married, they've been married, like, 26 years, I guess, when, 9/11 had happened and he was getting deployed, and they were already engaged.
• 19:38
  They were just planning a big wedding, but they went ahead and got married before just for insurance and all the things.
• 19:44
  Right.
• 19:44
  So I mean, it's still happening, I guess, but then it was a lot different.
• 19:47
  Yeah.
• 19:48
  And I want to say they went down to Florida and got married.
• 19:51
  They were reckless.
• 19:52
  Sheesh.
• 19:53
  I know.
• 19:53
  I just sent Lake Guy a text a couple of months ago.
• 19:57
  And I said,"I'm really glad that I have no survival skills, and I just went to some random lake to meet some random guy- on a random Tuesday." Zero.
• 20:07
  No will to live.
• 20:09
  The will to live of a tomato I have, yeah, absolutely no survival skills.
• 20:14
  It all worked out.
• 20:15
  Yeah.
• 20:15
  Let's just not make it a habit.
• 20:17
  Yeah.
• 20:18
  That's so funny.
• 20:19
  So speaking of- Yeah this.
• 20:21
  Yeah.
• 20:22
  Yeah.
• 20:22
  But everybody had my location, so Right, right.
• 20:25
  I mean, if I ended up in a lake, you would've been able to find me.
• 20:28
  Yeah, that's a good point.
• 20:29
  Yeah.
• 20:29
  That's a good point.
• 20:31
  Oh my gosh.
• 20:32
  It's crazy.
• 20:33
  Well, I found another story.
• 20:35
  Okay.
• 20:36
  And this is the grandfather with four wives.
• 20:39
  Yes.
• 20:39
  And I'm taking it as not, a sister wife situation.
• 20:42
  It's a- Actress Ruth Wilson's grandfather, Alexander Alec Wilson, had four marriages and seven children.
• 20:47
  His overlapping family lives became the basis for Mrs.
• 20:51
  Wilson, which is I guess a movie, in which Ruth plays her own grandmother, Alison.
• 20:57
  Research into his past uncovered a complicated combination of intelligence work, storytelling, and deception.
• 21:02
  Alison discovered that a woman she believed was his sister was actually his first wife So he just had this whole, story of this lie This whole story and scheme.
• 21:12
  Yeah, and all these different...
• 21:14
  Yeah.
• 21:15
  That is crazy.
• 21:16
  Okay, that's not like two.
• 21:17
  Yeah.
• 21:18
  Like, okay, I know here this is, and here this is this.
• 21:21
  This is- He kept them around.
• 21:23
  That is crazy insane.
• 21:25
  Yeah.
• 21:26
  Yeah.
• 21:26
  I would not be able to- No to maintain the stories.
• 21:29
  No.
• 21:30
  No, I'm not a good liar.
• 21:31
  Mm-mm.
• 21:32
  And four separate storylines?
• 21:34
  And I, am a nervous laugher.
• 21:36
  So- You'd just be giggling and, randomly"This is my sister.
• 21:41
  Yeah.
• 21:42
  I'd just start laughing.
• 21:43
  Yeah I couldn't do it.
• 21:44
  Yeah.
• 21:46
  I would be one of those that goes into too much detail.
• 21:48
  You know?
• 21:48
  And I don't have enough, attention span.
• 21:52
  Well, just like when I walked in here and I was just, sleepwalking and I would not be able to just, maintain that cover.
• 21:57
  Can you imagine the anxiety?
• 21:59
  Well, he probably didn't care, but- Yeah a normal person, the stress of feeling like you've always got to- When's the ball gonna drop?
• 22:08
  Uh-huh.
• 22:08
  Yeah.
• 22:09
  And then what's the explanation when, people find out?
• 22:12
  Initially I thought he just had a family like one town over.
• 22:16
  Right.
• 22:17
  Two houses down because, back in the day, everything was cheap.
• 22:19
  You could have several mystery families.
• 22:22
  Well, you don't have social media.
• 22:23
  Yeah.
• 22:23
  You don't have the connections.
• 22:24
  it's not like you're seeing a snap of- Yeah somebody on Facebook all the time.
• 22:29
  The people that have a second life like that, even...
• 22:31
  Have I ever told you about my obsession with the guy named Richard Kuklinski?
• 22:36
  No.
• 22:37
  He was actually a hit man.
• 22:39
  Oh.
• 22:40
  They called him The Iceman, he had his whole family and children and regular life.
• 22:46
  They just thought he had a day job.
• 22:48
  Yeah.
• 22:49
  And he was, infamous for being a hit man for the mob.
• 22:52
  Crazy.
• 22:53
  Yeah, again, I would not be a good undercover person'cause I would- No forget the whole- No, I think I would.
• 22:59
  I would not.
• 23:00
  I would forget my whole, i'd be like,"I'm Se- nope, I am Jessica." Uh, yeah, I think I w- oh, you would be a good Jessica, by the way.
• 23:06
  Oh.
• 23:08
  Jessica Rabbit.
• 23:09
  Yeah.
• 23:10
  I would hyper fixate.
• 23:11
  I would hyper in too much, overkill.
• 23:14
  Yeah.
• 23:15
  So I probably wouldn't be a good one, but I thought of- I, I can't do accents either Well, you don't need one when you're with me.
• 23:23
  I wouldn't be able to do a good accent.
• 23:25
  Mm-mm.
• 23:25
  Not even- I don't think so.
• 23:27
  Try.
• 23:28
  Like what?
• 23:29
  Oh, say,"G'day, mate." There's that nervous laughter.
• 23:34
  Never mind.
• 23:35
  I would not be good.
• 23:36
  I'm telling you, I would not be good.
• 23:37
  Okay.
• 23:38
  I can do my Southern drawl.
• 23:40
  Mm-hmm.
• 23:40
  And then when I get mad I go, way Jersey.
• 23:43
  Okay.
• 23:44
  Okay.
• 23:44
  It's, one or the other.
• 23:45
  That's funny.
• 23:46
  Yeah.
• 23:47
  Split personalities.
• 23:49
  It's like the, the angry- Yeah Southerner.
• 23:52
  Mm-hmm.
• 23:53
  It's like this whole barometer.
• 23:54
  Yeah.
• 23:56
  Instead of a mood ring you have- Yeah.
• 23:57
  my, my accent.
• 23:59
  How is she today?
• 23:59
  Well, I mean, she called me all seven times and it was real slow, so I think we're good today.
• 24:05
  My eyes get dark too when I get really mad.
• 24:07
  Really?
• 24:08
  Yeah That's really, that's a cool thing.
• 24:10
  I guess.
• 24:11
  I don't know.
• 24:12
  I guess.
• 24:13
  I'm amazing.
• 24:14
  I'm magical.
• 24:15
  Yeah.
• 24:16
  Duh.
• 24:16
  I know.
• 24:17
  Magical mermaid, princess mermaid.
• 24:19
  Hello.
• 24:21
  Yeah.
• 24:21
  So this one is, he discovered he wasn't the missing baby everyone thought he was.
• 24:26
  The story is, a newborn named Paul Fronczak was abducted from a Chicago hospital in 1964.
• 24:33
  Oh, remind me to tell you about Mother Teresa too, because she is no saint.
• 24:37
  I'm disappointed.
• 24:38
  A toddler found abandoned in New Jersey was later believed to be Paul, and grew up with the Fronczaks.
• 24:45
  Decades later, DNA testing revealed that he wasn't their biological child.
• 24:50
  Genealogical research identified him as Jack Thomas Rosenthal, and revealed that he had a twin sister, Jill, who had also disappeared.
• 24:59
  His search eventually helped identify the original kidnapped Paul as a man named Kevin Beatty.
• 25:04
  Jack's foundation continues to describe Jill as missing.
• 25:07
  That's wild I know.
• 25:11
  There's another wild one too that's triplets.
• 25:14
  Oh.
• 25:14
  So there's two that are on a campus together, and they, I saw that story, yeah uh, one keep, they're, they keep saying like,"Hey, David." And he's like,"I'm Mark.""Hey, David." He's like, he's, he's,"Oh, who is this David guy?" And they meet.
• 25:25
  Oh my God, and then there's the third one.
• 25:27
  Crazy.
• 25:27
  And they all had the exact same, likes and, studies.
• 25:31
  Like, everything was- Mm-hmm exactly the same.
• 25:33
  Very identical.
• 25:34
  Yeah.
• 25:34
  Yeah.
• 25:34
  Crazy.
• 25:35
  Could you imagine thinking that you have found your family- No like, grew up with these people, and then- No it's not your family?
• 25:40
  And then the, get ripped out from under...
• 25:42
  No.
• 25:43
  Bananas.
• 25:44
  But at least they also found the other guy.
• 25:47
  Yeah, I guess.
• 25:49
  Who was also living a- But just gotta go through all that trauma to get there.
• 25:52
  Yeah.
• 25:53
  So I just saw a thing that Mother Teresa was, like, the first, child trafficker.
• 25:57
  What?
• 25:58
  Yeah.
• 26:00
  Okay.
• 26:01
  All these foundations that she started- Yeah was, money laundering and, selling children.
• 26:05
  Shut up.
• 26:06
  I swear.
• 26:06
  I will send you the reel.
• 26:07
  Is she still alive?
• 26:08
  I don't know, but it's also believed that Dr.
• 26:12
  Fauci- Mm-hmm is her son.
• 26:14
  I could see that.
• 26:14
  Uh-huh Yeah.
• 26:15
  So I used to think that Mother Teresa was the name of a role.
• 26:21
  So you have the priest- Uh-huh and you have Mother Teresa, and she just like changed in and out.
• 26:26
  That's not how it works at all.
• 26:28
  No, but she was really bad And, I didn't watch the whole thing,'cause it was like 10 minutes long.
• 26:35
  Yeah, yeah.
• 26:35
  So the first five minutes and I'm like,"Okay, that's too long." Yeah.
• 26:39
  But, I want it condensed in like a minute and a half but somehow, they connected it also to like the Epstein, like craziness she's also connected to Hillary Clinton.
• 26:46
  They had started, a toddler foundation or something, and- That's disgusting yeah.
• 26:51
  It's all, child trafficking.
• 26:52
  That's gross.
• 26:53
  Yeah.
• 26:53
  So glad I'm not at that Thanksgiving.
• 26:55
  There's that, right?
• 27:00
  Do you wanna play a game?
• 27:01
  I like it when we play games.
• 27:02
  I know.
• 27:03
  Okay, all right, so I'm gonna read some scenarios.
• 27:06
  Okay.
• 27:06
  You have to say pass the potatoes, which means keep it quiet for now.
• 27:09
  Okay.
• 27:10
  Kitchen conversation, which is you're pulling somebody into the kitchen- Mm-hmm to have a little side conversation, or you're blowing up Thanksgiving.
• 27:16
  I can go ahead and tell you most of these are gonna be kitchen conversation.
• 27:19
  'Cause I wanna know all of it, but I don't wanna destroy everything.
• 27:24
  Okay.
• 27:25
  So I'm gonna read it first.
• 27:26
  We'll say what we would do.
• 27:27
  Okay.
• 27:28
  And then I'm gonna read a twist, and we can change our answer one time.
• 27:31
  What was the one where you blow everything up?
• 27:33
  Blow up Thanksgiving.
• 27:34
  Oh, good.
• 27:35
  There you go.
• 27:35
  Okay.
• 27:37
  So pass the potatoes, kitchen conversation, or blow up Thanksgiving.
• 27:40
  Blow up Thanksgiving.
• 27:40
  Okay.
• 27:41
  You spot a monthly payment from your dad to a woman nobody knows.
• 27:44
  The memo says,"For our girl." Get your conversation Yeah, I think so too I feel like I need more information on that one.
• 27:51
  Same.
• 27:52
  Okay, and the twist, that they secretly co-own a horse.
• 27:56
  Your mother- Pass the potatoes.
• 27:59
  Your mother thinks you stopped spending money on horses 10 years ago.
• 28:02
  Oh, so- Would you still just kitchen conversation?
• 28:06
  I think so.
• 28:06
  Well, or even pass the potatoes at that point.
• 28:08
  Yeah.
• 28:08
  Is this financial infidelity still infidelity when the other woman has hooves?
• 28:14
  That's funny.
• 28:15
  Yeah.
• 28:15
  Okay, so I'm with you.
• 28:16
  I'd do the kitchen conversation.
• 28:17
  Yeah.
• 28:17
  Kitchen convo.
• 28:18
  Okay.
• 28:19
  Grandma's legendary pie.
• 28:20
  Your cousin finds grocery store packaging in the trash.
• 28:23
  Grandma's award-winning homemade pie has been purchased for 25 years.
• 28:28
  Blow up Thanksgiving.
• 28:30
  Same.
• 28:31
  Same.
• 28:32
  Yes.
• 28:33
  The twist, she's been charging everyone$20 for the recipe.
• 28:39
  Blowing up Thanksgiving still.
• 28:40
  But also applauding her for making some money off of that.
• 28:43
  Or do you protect the legend and let her still make the pie?
• 28:45
  Oh, Yeah, I think I probably would.
• 28:47
  I'd take the- I'd protect the legend, then I'd wanna be the...
• 28:49
  Only if I can be the heiress to that.
• 28:51
  Yes.
• 28:52
  There you go.
• 28:53
  Yes.
• 28:54
  Keep that money in the family.
• 28:55
  Right.
• 28:56
  Money and secrets.
• 28:58
  All right, the bonus brother.
• 28:59
  Okay.
• 29:00
  A stranger arrives saying your father is also his father.
• 29:03
  He has photographs and paperwork.
• 29:06
  I'm blowing up Thanksgiving.
• 29:07
  I think I'm blowing it up too.
• 29:08
  Because if somebody is at my doorstep- And if they came with the receipts, I'm- I'm done blowing it up.
• 29:12
  Yeah.
• 29:12
  The twist.
• 29:13
  Oh, gosh.
• 29:14
  Your aunt immediately says,"Oh, thank God, I'm so tired of remembering who knows." I'm so glad I blew up Thanksgiving.
• 29:21
  Yeah.
• 29:23
  I'm in shock right now.
• 29:25
  Who gets questioned first?
• 29:26
  Aunt?
• 29:27
  Everybody better start talking.
• 29:28
  Uh, yeah.
• 29:29
  I want it all.
• 29:30
  Like, everybody- I want it all, and I want it, but yeah, all of it.
• 29:33
  Yeah.
• 29:34
  Every single detail.
• 29:34
  Mm-hmm.
• 29:35
  I wanna see all the things, know all the things, touch all the things.
• 29:39
  Thanksgiving's ruined.
• 29:40
  Ruined.
• 29:41
  It's done.
• 29:41
  Never gonna celebrate it again.
• 29:43
  No.
• 29:44
  The inheritance condition.
• 29:46
  Grandma leaves you$100,000 if you host Thanksgiving for the next 10 years.
• 29:51
  Are you telling everybody?
• 29:52
  Are you blowing up Thanksgiving and letting everybody know or?
• 29:55
  No.
• 29:55
  No.
• 29:55
  Pass the potatoes.
• 29:56
  Yeah.
• 29:57
  That's my, me and, that's between me and Granny.
• 29:58
  Yeah.
• 29:59
  But then everybody'd be like,"Why are you hosting?" I love y'all and I just, it's easier, easier for me to do it here.
• 30:05
  Twist, you must invite every living relative, including the uncle banned from three separate family events.
• 30:10
  I'm so- pass the potatoes.
• 30:12
  Yeah.
• 30:13
  It depends, though.
• 30:14
  Do they do damage?
• 30:15
  Like, is he banned for damage?
• 30:16
  Because$100,000 doesn't go very far anymore.
• 30:19
  Well, see, I'm thinking just because you're inviting them doesn't mean they're coming.
• 30:22
  Yeah.
• 30:23
  So yeah, I'm not good at these games'cause I don't do hypotheticals well.
• 30:25
  Yeah.
• 30:26
  I'm just thinking, the cost of the whole Thanksgiving meal is, not that cheap anymore.
• 30:30
  Well, then you get everybody to bring something.
• 30:32
  Maybe.
• 30:32
  You're just, you're hosting the home.
• 30:33
  But you know, when you have, relatives that bring, like, they,"Please bring mashed potatoes," and they bring, two servings?
• 30:37
  Mm-hmm.
• 30:37
  And then- They bring, a packet- Yeah that you microwave.
• 30:40
  Yeah.
• 30:40
  Yeah.
• 30:41
  So then I feel like you have to, like, have everything ready just in case.
• 30:43
  Yes.
• 30:44
  Yeah.
• 30:44
  And then what's the point of asking anybody to bring anything?
• 30:46
  At least some kind of filler, yeah.
• 30:47
  Yeah.
• 30:48
  Everybody just leave 25 bucks at the door.
• 30:50
  Yeah.
• 30:50
  Cover your plates.
• 30:54
  Yeah.
• 30:54
  And if you break anything, that's on you, too.
• 30:56
  Yeah.
• 30:57
  Sign the waiver, please.
• 30:58
  We are hiding all the breakables- Yeah and we are serving on paper plates.
• 31:02
  Mm-hmm, and I'm gonna need your card for incidentals.
• 31:04
  Yes.
• 31:06
  The secret wedding.
• 31:07
  Your sister announces she's engaged.
• 31:09
  You already know she got married six months ago.
• 31:11
  Pass the potatoes.
• 31:12
  Yeah, I'm keeping that.
• 31:13
  That's, nah.
• 31:13
  Taking that to the grave.
• 31:14
  Yep, mm-hmm.
• 31:15
  Not my story to tell.
• 31:16
  Is there a twist?
• 31:17
  So the twist.
• 31:19
  She pulls you aside and says,"Please act surprised.
• 31:21
  Mom thinks she's planning the actual wedding." I'm still taking that to the grave.
• 31:24
  Yeah, me too.
• 31:26
  The family group chat.
• 31:27
  You discover a second family group chat that excludes you.
• 31:30
  I am blowing up Thanksgiving.
• 31:32
  Blowing it up, for sure.
• 31:34
  Twist.
• 31:36
  Are they planning my party?
• 31:37
  It is created to organize your surprise party.
• 31:40
  Oh.
• 31:41
  But the party happened three years ago.
• 31:44
  They kept the chat.
• 31:45
  So I'm still blowing up Thanksgiving.
• 31:46
  Still blowing it up.
• 31:46
  Yeah.
• 31:47
  Still blowing it up.
• 31:48
  Unless you're planning me another party.
• 31:51
  Or a present.
• 31:51
  Right.
• 31:52
  Either way.
• 31:52
  I can be bought.
• 31:53
  Yes.
• 31:54
  Baby name.
• 31:55
  Your brother announces his baby's name.
• 31:57
  His ex suddenly leaves the table crying.
• 32:02
  I am pulling him to the side and being like,"What's going on?" Why is she crying?
• 32:06
  I don't know.
• 32:06
  I'm sure that's a twist.
• 32:07
  Oh.
• 32:08
  I haven't read the twist.
• 32:09
  Yeah, yeah, kitchen convo.
• 32:10
  Got it.
• 32:11
  I don't- I, yeah, I, I- Okay burn through to the kitchen and be like,"Dude." Yeah.
• 32:15
  Um, twist: It's the name of the dog they shared.
• 32:18
  His current wife thinks he chose it to honor his grandfather.
• 32:22
  Why is his ex at- Right, why is- at the table?
• 32:25
  Oh.
• 32:26
  So the ex, it's the name of the dog that they, the ex shared with him, and his current wife thinks it's to honor the grandfather, so he lied to his current- And it was the ex's name, but I still wanna know why she's there.
• 32:37
  Yeah, me too.
• 32:37
  Is she married to his brother now?
• 32:39
  Sister?
• 32:40
  Who knows.
• 32:41
  Either way, I'm still pulling him to the side.
• 32:43
  Yeah, same.
• 32:43
  And being like,"Dude." Same, yeah.
• 32:47
  The poor uncle.
• 32:48
  The uncle who borrows money from everyone is secretly wealthy.
• 32:51
  I am blowing- Blowing it up it up.
• 32:54
  Blowing it up.
• 32:54
  Yeah.
• 32:55
  Twist: He claims the borrowing was a test of family generosity.
• 33:00
  He has a spreadsheet.
• 33:01
  I still blew it up.
• 33:03
  Because then I'm like,"Why are you keeping tabs on everybody?" I don't know.
• 33:08
  I might be like,"Oh, but we're cool, right?" Yeah.
• 33:10
  If we're cool, then I'm cool, then I'm not gonna blow it up.
• 33:12
  If we're cool, then that's fine.
• 33:13
  Just pass the potatoes.
• 33:17
  Do you request repayment before or after launching his laptop into the yard?
• 33:22
  No, just add it to what the millions you're gonna give me.
• 33:25
  Yeah.
• 33:26
  Would that not be bananas?
• 33:27
  Yeah.
• 33:29
  I see, yes.
• 33:29
  Mm-hmm.
• 33:30
  The family heirloom.
• 33:32
  Two cousins arrive wearing identical rings.
• 33:34
  Both were told they inherited Grandma's one-of-a-kind engagement ring.
• 33:38
  Well, that was gonna blow itself up if they both arrived with it.
• 33:40
  They're that blows itself up.
• 33:42
  That's dumb.
• 33:43
  Okay, the twist: Grandma sold the original years ago to pay for a girls' trip.
• 33:46
  She got fake ones made.
• 33:50
  That's great.
• 33:50
  Good on you, Grandma.
• 33:52
  Blowing it up.
• 33:53
  Yeah.
• 33:54
  Oops.
• 33:54
  Oh, that's funny.
• 33:55
  I'd be impressed, though.
• 33:56
  Yeah.
• 33:57
  Especially a girls' trip.
• 33:58
  Yeah.
• 33:59
  Go Grandma.
• 34:00
  I hope she- That's better than, like, buying a- That's- doing it for a new couch still got a groove back.
• 34:04
  Yeah.
• 34:07
  All right.
• 34:07
  you wanna do am I the a-hole?
• 34:09
  Yeah.
• 34:09
  All right.
• 34:10
  Am I the a-hole for refusing to share my inheritance with my dad and my brother after discovering a family secret?
• 34:16
  My grandma, Dad's mom, left me, 27 female, and my dad's, 52 male, portion of her inheritance, but left him and my brother, 30 male, nothing For context, me and my brother have never met my granddad.
• 34:36
  According to my dad, he and his father had a very toxic relationship.
• 34:40
  After my dad and my mom, 49 female, met, they started dating at university, and they had my brother.
• 34:46
  My parents then got married, which made my granddad stop talking to my dad.
• 34:50
  A couple of years later, they had me, and we've been living happily ever after.
• 34:54
  After my granddad died, my dad began to spend more time with his mom.
• 34:58
  We also got to spend more time with her, and we even spent Christmas holidays at their house.
• 35:04
  She was a sweet old lady who just loved us very much.
• 35:07
  Her energy was so electric and contagious, I won't lie when I say that Christmas as a teenager were my most cherished times.
• 35:13
  That's sweet.
• 35:13
  Mm.
• 35:14
  Sadly, my grandma passed away last year.
• 35:15
  After her funeral, I and my two aunties were called to speak to a lawyer.
• 35:21
  She died with a house worth more than£500,000, she lived near Oxford, to her name, and over£200,000 worth of cash and other heirlooms.
• 35:33
  When we went through the inheritance, the lawyers explained that she divided it into three equal parts.
• 35:38
  It was between her two daughters and me, who got my dad's share of the inheritance.
• 35:42
  She left her son nothing.
• 35:44
  When my dad found out, he protested and asked me how that was possible, but I wasn't concerned.
• 35:50
  During the proceedings, my grandma's lawyer, who was in charge of the inheritance, gave me a letter written by her a year ago.
• 35:57
  In this letter, to be read after her death, she explained that her husband, my granddad, had disowned my dad completely.
• 36:04
  This is because my dad is not my brother's actual father.
• 36:07
  He's a child from a relationship my mom had previously.
• 36:11
  Hmm.
• 36:12
  There's so much in this.
• 36:14
  Oof.
• 36:14
  My dad met my mom when she was pregnant with my brother.
• 36:17
  My grandparents, my granddad in particular, thought this was extremely weird.
• 36:21
  He did not approve of this and was vehemently against it.
• 36:25
  My dad didn't listen and married my mom a year after my brother was born, which prompted my granddad to excommunicate him from good.
• 36:32
  During the years, my grandma stayed in contact with my dad, but we, my brother and I, did not meet her until after my granddad died.
• 36:38
  The thing is, neither my brother nor I knew that my dad wasn't his father.
• 36:42
  Oof.
• 36:43
  A day later, my dad called me to discuss the inheritance, but I didn't wanna meet him.
• 36:48
  He doesn't know that I know, and I don't know how to tell him that I know.
• 36:53
  I haven't received any money yet, but based on this, I feel like I will not share it.
• 36:57
  My family are understandably calling me greedy, but I just don't really trust them anymore.
• 37:02
  This is already causing heavy division in my family, and now I feel like dropping this news will destroy my family completely.
• 37:08
  Should I just be truthful about the reasoning, or what should I do?
• 37:12
  Just give the letter Hand it over to her parents Yeah and, leave the brother out of it.
• 37:17
  Don't say nothing to the brother and let the parents handle that part of it That was multi-layered Right Not just the inheritance piece of it, but that was a lot.
• 37:28
  That was heavy.
• 37:31
  So if that was your situation Mm-hmm If your grandparent left you money but didn't leave any to your mom and didn't leave any to your siblings, what are you supposed to do though?
• 37:39
  They must hand it over?
• 37:40
  Against her grandparents' w- wishes?
• 37:43
  Right.
• 37:43
  If they wanted you to have it, they would have given it to you.
• 37:47
  It's such an old school way of thinking too.
• 37:49
  Mm-hmm.
• 37:49
  Like to me, like, like grandparents were complete buttheads- Mm-hmm for that whole situation.
• 37:54
  Mm-hmm.
• 37:54
  Grandparents were in the wrong.
• 37:55
  Grandparents are the assholes, like- Yeah, yeah but I don't know.
• 37:59
  I would hand over the letter and just say this is what I've got." Yeah.
• 38:02
  Is there anything you'd like to tell me?
• 38:05
  That's a lot.
• 38:06
  And then like who's baby daddy?
• 38:08
  Right.
• 38:09
  Where, where is he then?
• 38:10
  Yeah, that one was a lot.
• 38:12
  I was not prepared for that.
• 38:14
  What would you do?
• 38:15
  I don't know.
• 38:17
  It sounds like she feels really betrayed about n- not knowing about her brothers.
• 38:21
  I would too.
• 38:23
  I'm trying to put myself...
• 38:24
  Would I feel betrayed if I found out that my sister and I didn't share the same dad, if she didn't know it either?
• 38:29
  I'd be mad at my parents- Yeah for not telling us.
• 38:31
  Right.
• 38:32
  And I feel like the brother's gonna be furious- Mm-hmm for not knowing- Mm-hmm who his father is.
• 38:37
  Mm-hmm.
• 38:37
  And it's not like it was an oopsie.
• 38:39
  She was obviously pregnant when they met.
• 38:42
  Mm-hmm.
• 38:42
  that's a tough one.
• 38:44
  Yeah, I would just hand them the letter- Yeah and say,"I think we need to have a family meeting." Right.
• 38:49
  I guess.
• 38:50
  And not a kitchen one, we're blowing it up.
• 38:52
  Oh, no, blowing that shit up.
• 38:54
  Blow it up.
• 38:55
  Yeah, that's a, wow, that's- There's going to be mashed potatoes on the walls.
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• 39:10
  All right, so this week we read The Family Upstairs by Lisa Jewell, and it's going to be a spoiler-filled episode, so- Yeah per usual.
• 39:19
  Yeah, as per usual.
• 39:20
  You want me to do a breakdown of the characters?
• 39:22
  Yeah, do the breakdown and let's go ahead and say, trigger warnings for some, a lot of things.
• 39:27
  Everything, yeah.
• 39:27
  Yeah.
• 39:28
  It's all there.
• 39:29
  It's all there.
• 39:30
  All right, so characters.
• 39:31
  We've got Libby Jones Sere- slash Serenity, she's both names.
• 39:34
  Mm-hmm.
• 39:34
  An adopted woman whose inheritance opens the mystery of this book.
• 39:39
  Lucy Lamb, Libby's biological mother.
• 39:42
  Henry Lamb Jr, Lucy's brother, narrator of the historical storyline.
• 39:47
  Mm-hmm.
• 39:48
  Henry Sr.
• 39:49
  and Martina Lamb, original wealthy homeowners, Lucy and Henry's parents.
• 39:53
  Mm-hmm.
• 39:54
  David Thompson, outsider who takes control of the household.
• 39:58
  Finn and Clamsy, David's children.
• 40:01
  Birdie, which I love that name.
• 40:03
  Mm-hmm.
• 40:04
  Musician whose arrival begins the household transformation.
• 40:08
  And Miller Rose, journalist, helping Libby investigate.
• 40:11
  Mm-hmm.
• 40:12
  All right, so those are all of our characters.
• 40:14
  I feel like there was a whole lot more than that.
• 40:15
  There was, but those were, like, the main players.
• 40:17
  Yeah.
• 40:18
  And then we're doing two different timelines.
• 40:20
  Mm-hmm.
• 40:20
  We've got Lucy's current investigation- Mm-hmm and then we've got, um, Henry's account of the past.
• 40:25
  Yes.
• 40:27
  Did you like the book?
• 40:28
  Yes and no.
• 40:29
  Okay.
• 40:29
  I thought it started out really strong and I was highly into it.
• 40:33
  I got lost with the timelines and all the characters.
• 40:36
  I don't think the timelines were done that well- Mm-hmm in my opinion.
• 40:39
  But then at the end again, I was so sucked in.
• 40:42
  And like I just told you, there's, I think there's, I don't know, a sequel- prequel, whatever.
• 40:46
  Yeah.
• 40:46
  But there's another one, and I wanna read that.
• 40:48
  Yeah.
• 40:48
  So I got lost in this, but I think there's a lot of good ideas there.
• 40:52
  Mm-hmm.
• 40:52
  What'd you think?
• 40:53
  I, I didn't get lost.
• 40:54
  I've read this before- Yeah, yeah so, it was, like, a refresher for me.
• 40:57
  Yeah.
• 40:57
  And I liked it the first time.
• 40:58
  I had to know what happened.
• 40:59
  Right, right.
• 41:00
  And it was the same this time.
• 41:01
  Yeah.
• 41:02
  I was it was good for me, but- Yeah.
• 41:03
  Those are good for you.
• 41:04
  It was good for me.
• 41:06
  I was satisfied by the end.
• 41:10
  All right.
• 41:10
  So, at 25, Libby inherits a Chelsea mansion linked to her biological family.
• 41:15
  Its history includes three dead adults, missing children, and a baby found alive upstairs.
• 41:19
  That baby was Libby.
• 41:21
  So that's how we open up.
• 41:22
  She gets this letter from a solicitor- Mm-hmm finds out that she inherited this mansion- Mm-hmm on the fanciest street.
• 41:28
  Mm-hmm.
• 41:29
  And is like,"Is this, legit?" Mm-hmm.
• 41:31
  Or, because she was adopted, she doesn't know much about her past.
• 41:34
  Mm-hmm.
• 41:35
  And when the parents died, she got the house.
• 41:38
  Mm-hmm.
• 41:39
  But she had to wait till she's turning 5.
• 41:40
  Right.
• 41:41
  So, she connects with a journalist, Miller Roe, to investigate.
• 41:44
  Meanwhile, Lucy is struggling in France with two children and knows the baby she left behind, has reached adulthood.
• 41:49
  Mm-hmm Which I did not put that together.
• 41:54
  No.
• 41:54
  the only thing was, there was like a little part right in the beginning and Lucy had, I guess, said,"The baby is 25." Mm-hmm.
• 42:02
  Mm-hmm.
• 42:03
  It was like an alert on her phone or something.
• 42:04
  Right.
• 42:04
  Uh-huh.
• 42:05
  Yeah.
• 42:05
  But for some reason I just...
• 42:07
  And I know the, all the, the siblings' names and stuff, but I guess in my mind I was thinking that Lucy and Libby were sisters.
• 42:14
  Right And that they were just long-lost sisters that were gonna find each other.
• 42:17
  yeah, and that was my first take on it too.
• 42:20
  Mm-hmm.
• 42:20
  then Henry, Henry goes into, the history.
• 42:22
  Mm-hmm.
• 42:22
  And they had, this great life.
• 42:23
  Henry's grandfather was super rich, and- Mm-hmm his dad was just waiting for the day that- Right grandpa died, and he would get all the money.
• 42:29
  Mm-hmm.
• 42:30
  And then he got all the money- He got all the money and he spent it all.
• 42:33
  Yep.
• 42:33
  So they were- The mom was a socialite, they say.
• 42:35
  Yep.
• 42:36
  And just all the...
• 42:37
  I'm picturing, like, fur stoles and just all the stuff.
• 42:40
  They just went crazy spending.
• 42:41
  Mm-hmm.
• 42:41
  They bought this mansion.
• 42:42
  Mm-hmm.
• 42:42
  The kids were going to the private school and all the things.
• 42:46
  Mm-hmm.
• 42:47
  Which, again- Yep they lost all the money.
• 42:49
  Yep.
• 42:50
  I guess I got a little confused here.
• 42:52
  So people start showing up at the house.
• 42:54
  Mm-hmm.
• 42:54
  Were they, renting the spaces out?
• 42:56
  Because they, there's references to it being free for the people that stay there.
• 43:01
  Yeah, I was a little bit confused here too.
• 43:02
  Okay.
• 43:03
  I feel like, I thought that they were renting it out- Mm-hmm but I think that they just took over the house.
• 43:07
  Yeah.
• 43:07
  I think it was supposed to initially be- hosting, like, a air- Almost like a hostel, Airbnb ty- Yeah bed and breakfast kind of thing.
• 43:13
  Yeah.
• 43:14
  But yeah, they just wouldn't leave.
• 43:15
  Henry's, memory's explaining how Birdie enters the wealthy Lamb household, followed by David and his family.
• 43:21
  David gains influence over Martina and imposes increasingly restrictive rules, which, who is he to make the rules, and why is everybody listening?
• 43:30
  They were just so...
• 43:32
  He must have just been one of those charismatic- But just, like, overpowering- Uh-huh and just, like- Well, and it was so subtle- I guess, that all of a sudden one day they wake up with no shoes.
• 43:41
  The house becomes a place of deprivation, isolation, and abuse.
• 43:45
  Lucy is sexually abused by David, whose control reaches into nearly every part of the children's lives, which- Like, what the?
• 43:52
  I know.
• 43:52
  Lucy's present day escape has its own violence.
• 43:55
  To return to England, Lucy seeks help obtaining passports from her abusive former husband, Michael.
• 44:00
  During an assault, she stabs him and then conceals what happens before leaving.
• 44:04
  This was just a, again- Yeah there was so much.
• 44:07
  I think this would make a great movie because it'd be- I do too.
• 44:09
  I thought the same thing.
• 44:10
  Yeah., It'd be easier- I think that would...
• 44:11
  we never say that.
• 44:12
  Usually we're like,"Give me the book.
• 44:13
  Don't give me a movie," but I feel like this is one that I need to see the people and I need to see the distinct timeline, whether it be, like, clothes or just, grayscale color.
• 44:24
  I need distinct separation.
• 44:26
  Yeah.
• 44:26
  That was too much.
• 44:27
  Mm-hmm.
• 44:28
  So then the children plan to drug the adults so they can escape because there's so much abuse and isolation and all the things going on.
• 44:34
  Mm-hmm.
• 44:35
  Henry's mixture kills Henry Senior, Martina, and David.
• 44:42
  Birdie survives the initial drugging, but Henry kills her when she intervenes and hides her body.
• 44:48
  So these kids are killing all the adults.
• 44:50
  Mm-hmm.
• 44:50
  He creates the appearance of a suicide pact and anonymously alerts the police to the baby'cause the baby is still in the crib.
• 44:56
  Mm-hmm.
• 44:57
  Wait, who did that?
• 44:58
  The, Henry.
• 45:00
  Henry did it?
• 45:00
  Okay.
• 45:01
  So you can't blame...
• 45:03
  I mean, like- Mm-mm gotta do what you gotta do to survive, and thankfully they did alert the police about the baby.
• 45:09
  Mm-hmm.
• 45:10
  It wasn't completely callous- Right.
• 45:12
  No, it was definitely one of those things that just escalated and just got just pushed and pushed and, all of a sudden we're not gonna wear any of our clothes because there's people that need our clothes more than we do, and I'm just gonna give you, basically a flower sash.
• 45:24
  Right.
• 45:24
  And then the next day we don't need shoes, so they don't leave the house.
• 45:27
  It was such a gradual- Mm-hmm takeover like most of these cults are- Yeah that it just...
• 45:33
  And, thankfully though, the kids did have a little bit of free will still left in their head,'cause the mother was gone.
• 45:39
  She was, totally drinking all of the Kool-Aid- Mm-hmm that he was pouring for her.
• 45:43
  Yeah.
• 45:45
  So Libby is a daughter of Lucy and Finn- Mm-hmm rather than David.
• 45:49
  Another major- Finn was David's son.
• 45:51
  Right.
• 45:52
  Another major reveal, the adult man presenting himself as Finn is actually Henry.
• 45:56
  And the, and that's the narrator?
• 45:57
  Mm-hmm.
• 45:58
  But did they ever find Finn?
• 46:00
  Mm-mm.
• 46:00
  I don't think so.
• 46:01
  I don't think so either.
• 46:02
  His attachment to Finn includes a obsession with resembling him, and his account requires careful scrutiny.
• 46:09
  Yeah, that was what was crazy to me.
• 46:10
  I don't know, since it's been a minute since you read it- Yeah I don't know if you reread it, but he's talking about the plastic surgeries and the eye li- eyelash extensions and different things that he's done to look like this dude who he was attracted to and obsessed with that he lived in this house with Which that wasn't even like the main part of the story.
• 46:31
  This was a lot.
• 46:32
  Yeah.
• 46:32
  Libby reconnects with Lucy and her surviving family.
• 46:35
  The inheritance gives the survivors a chance to move forward, but the ending preserves Henry's fixation.
• 46:41
  When Miller locates the real Finn in Africa, Henry wants to join the trip.
• 46:46
  That makes the reunion feel hopeful and unsettling all at once.
• 46:49
  Okay.
• 46:50
  So and just to tie into my question about Finn- Uh-huh is Finn is alive in Botswana, Africa, and that's part of the next book.
• 46:58
  Yeah.
• 46:59
  I liked the beginning and I liked the end.
• 47:01
  Like I said, I just There was so many pieces and I couldn't I had a hard time pulling apart what was what- Mm in it.
• 47:08
  I loved the twisted storyline.
• 47:10
  Yeah.
• 47:10
  And I did not see the ending coming- with it being so she was actually, Lucy was the mom, right?
• 47:16
  Uh-huh.
• 47:17
  Lucy was being raped by David, the dad, and then had the relationship with the son.
• 47:25
  Twisted.
• 47:26
  So twisted.
• 47:27
  Yeah.
• 47:27
  I did not see that coming.
• 47:28
  Uh-uh.
• 47:29
  At all.
• 47:30
  No.
• 47:31
  I think it would make such a good movie.
• 47:33
  I agree.
• 47:34
  And I can picture the characters and everything.
• 47:36
  Like I could like just see it all like- Yeah as a movie.
• 47:39
  I'm picturing Fan being like this- Feminine looking male Not in a bad way, but just delicate features.
• 47:46
  Yeah.
• 47:46
  Not a big brawny type.
• 47:48
  And then Henry being just, not very attractive.
• 47:51
  Yeah, Not hideous, but just- Like a, just like a homely, like- Plain Yeah.
• 47:55
  Yeah.
• 47:55
  Yeah.
• 47:56
  Kinda like nerdy.
• 47:57
  Mm-hmm.
• 47:58
  Yeah.
• 47:58
  But he was so into Finn.
• 48:01
  Who do you think would play some of these people if you were gonna make a movie today?
• 48:06
  I don't even know any, current people.
• 48:07
  I don't know any current actors either.
• 48:08
  So, people from our era.
• 48:10
  Oh.
• 48:11
  when they were young.
• 48:12
  So, like, I could see, okay, Reese Witherspoon.
• 48:15
  Yeah.
• 48:16
  Oh, Ryan Phillippe.
• 48:17
  Was that his name?
• 48:18
  I used to say, oh my God.
• 48:19
  I know.
• 48:20
  But he could be Finn.
• 48:21
  Yeah.
• 48:21
  He's just, he's a beautiful person.
• 48:23
  He's not overly masculine.
• 48:25
  Yeah.
• 48:25
  But I could see him being that one that somebody's obsessed with.
• 48:29
  Me.
• 48:31
  Come back, Steph.
• 48:32
  Gotta finish the pod.
• 48:34
  Your gentleman right back right there.
• 48:35
  Yeah, he's pretty.
• 48:36
  Have you seen their kids?
• 48:37
  Yes.
• 48:38
  They look just like them.
• 48:39
  Like clones.
• 48:40
  Crazy.
• 48:41
  Mm-hmm.
• 48:42
  We're gonna have to do a whole, Something one day on, celebrities and then their children who look just like them.
• 48:48
  Yeah.
• 48:49
  There are so many that it's just insane.
• 48:50
  Yeah.
• 48:51
  And I don't think Dylan looks like me at all.
• 48:54
  I think he does.
• 48:55
  I don't know.
• 48:55
  I don't think he I think he does And so, David's the guy that took over the house, right?
• 49:07
  Mm-hmm.
• 49:07
  Brad Pitt Oh from, our time.
• 49:10
  From our- Yeah.
• 49:11
  Yeah.
• 49:12
  That's a good one.
• 49:12
  Yeah.
• 49:13
  And with the woman, the wife being a socialite, that could even be, like, the Angelina Jolie, just glamorous- Yeah and just beautiful.
• 49:21
  Yeah, so you got, the housewife, Reese With- like, down to earth- Uh-huh sweet.
• 49:25
  Home Alabama.
• 49:26
  Mm-hmm.
• 49:27
  Yeah.
• 49:27
  And then the dad- Oh, he would be- Her husband her.
• 49:32
  Johnny Depp.
• 49:33
  Oh, that's good.
• 49:35
  That's good.
• 49:37
  Dude, we would have, the ultimate cast for, like- That would be like, the 2000- That's way out of our budget, though.
• 49:42
  Yeah.
• 49:42
  We can't afford- For, like, an early 2000s- genre.
• 49:48
  I could almost see that also flipped with Johnny Depp being the one that comes in- Oh, yeah for David,'cause he's kind of- Uh-huh mystical vibe- Yeah kind of.
• 49:58
  Mm-hmm.
• 49:59
  And all woo woo.
• 50:00
  We would have fun.
• 50:01
  It would be fun.
• 50:01
  We, I would have fun casting a movie.
• 50:04
  Yeah, I think so.
• 50:05
  I think so.
• 50:05
  I wouldn't be, like, a creepy casting director either.
• 50:07
  There would be no couch.
• 50:09
  No, zero couches.
• 50:10
  There is no Me Too with me.
• 50:12
  No.
• 50:15
  All right.
• 50:15
  Next week we are doing dinner, drama, and murder.
• 50:18
  This is with resentment, terrible relatives, and people who should not be sitting at your same dinner table.
• 50:24
  There is a list of people who should not be at my dinner table.
• 50:29
  You know, like I told you before, I'm big on giving out the energy that I'm getting.
• 50:32
  Yeah.
• 50:32
  So and we are gonna be reading The Hunting Party by Lucy Foley.
• 50:36
  Mm-hmm.
• 50:36
  So come back next week- Yes and we will have some more drama for you.
• 50:41
  We will have some more drama for you, and I'll figure out what family story to tell you then.
• 50:44
  And because it's Thanksgiving month, we are so thankful for y'all.
• 50:47
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• 50:49
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• 50:50
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• 50:52
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• 50:52
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• 50:54
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• 50:55
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• 50:56
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• 50:57
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