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FRIDAY NIGHT SPECIAL: KANSAS CITY CHIEFS HOMICIDE BOMBSHELL - Jordan Willis Confident He'll Beat Charges · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: Three friends, three Kansas City Chiefs fans, dead in the
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Speaker 2: backyard and on the porch of another friend.
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Speaker 1: To other Chiefs fans have a cold blooded.
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Speaker 2: Reaction when they meet face to face in court over
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Speaker 2: the murder of their friends. I'm Nancy Grace. This is
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Speaker 2: Crime Stories. I want to thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 2: Two former friends are accused of killing three Kansas City
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Speaker 2: Chiefs fans, and they just sat in the last days,
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Speaker 2: shoulder to shoulder in a Missouri courtroom, staring coldly, straight ahead,
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Speaker 2: stone face and never stating a single word to each other.
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Speaker 2: It was Jordan Willis and Ivory Carson, less than five
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Speaker 2: feet apart in the Platte County courtroom before Judge Abe
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Speaker 2: Quint Schaeffer. Willis was wearing a blue buttoned down and slacks.
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Speaker 2: He's free on one hundred thousand dollars bond. Carson steel
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Speaker 2: jailed hobbled in wearing an orange jumpsuit and ankle shackles.
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Speaker 2: Each one faces three counts of second degree felony murder
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Speaker 2: and distribution of drugs and the deaths of their friends,
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Speaker 2: Ricky Johnson, David Harrington and Clayton mcgeiney.
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Speaker 1: Their frozen bodies.
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Speaker 2: Were found outside Jordan Willis's home on a cold January ninth.
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Speaker 1: All of them had gathered for.
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Speaker 2: What was supposed to be a fun Sunday watch party
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Speaker 2: watching the Chiefs, and despite a friendship amongst all of
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Speaker 2: them group text being fans of the Chiefs regular get togethers,
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Speaker 2: these do didn't even look at each other in court.
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Speaker 1: And I think I know why.
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Speaker 2: Two arrested over the deaths of three Kansas City Chiefs
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Speaker 2: fans who apparently froze to death and their scientist's friend
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Speaker 2: backyard and on his porch, and he didn't.
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Speaker 1: Notice a thing for two days.
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Speaker 2: A guy is dead, your friend is dead in a
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Speaker 2: lounge chair on your porch, and you go two days
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Speaker 2: ignoring repeated calls, text messages, social media requests from family
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Speaker 2: and friends.
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Speaker 1: You don't see any of that. You show up at
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Speaker 1: the front.
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Speaker 2: Door and you're underwear with a glass of wine and go, hahua, listen.
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Speaker 3: Jordan Willis and Ivory Carson have been charged with distribution
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Speaker 3: of a controlled substance and three counts of involuntary manslaughter.
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Speaker 2: That from our friends at k NBC nine News joining
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Speaker 2: me in All Star Panel but first I want to
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Speaker 2: go to a very special guest joining us. It's Jonathan Price,
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Speaker 2: the brother of one of those three victims, Ricky Johnson.
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Speaker 1: Jonathan, thank you for being.
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Speaker 4: With us, Thank you for having me Nancy.
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Speaker 2: Jonathan, I wonder sometimes if this day would ever come.
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Speaker 2: You said from the get go, something is wrong, something
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Speaker 2: is horribly wrong. It didn't happen this way, and you
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Speaker 2: were right, yeah, it just from the.
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Speaker 4: Very beginning, it didn't make sense. And it still doesn't
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Speaker 4: make sense that they were able to rule out foul
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Speaker 4: play from day one, and then you know, with these charges.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know the legal definition of foul play,
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Speaker 4: but it definitely seems like they now believe that there
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Speaker 4: was foul play. So just keeping us in the dark
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Speaker 4: for this long, it's very troubling, but there is still
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Speaker 4: a sense of relief among all of us that this
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Speaker 4: is hopefully coming to a conclusion.
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Speaker 2: You guys have been dragged through hell and back. And
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Speaker 2: during the Super Bowl when of the Chiefs were playing,
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Speaker 2: I thought about you and your family, and I wondered
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Speaker 2: what's going.
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Speaker 1: Through their minds tonight as.
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Speaker 2: Everybody's celebrating and partying, and you still did not have
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Speaker 2: answers in your brother's death.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, I think about Ricky daily,
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Speaker 4: and you know, even more so when the Chiefs are
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Speaker 4: playing or KU's playing. You know, there's you know, he
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Speaker 4: cared much about his family and his sports, and we
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Speaker 4: shared that our entire lives and uh, you know those
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Speaker 4: those memories will always live on and uh, you know,
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Speaker 4: like I said before, it's there. There is a sense
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Speaker 4: of relief that, you know, something that's coming from all
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Speaker 4: of this.
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Speaker 2: Well, I was wondering, Jonathan, when everybody was celebrating and
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Speaker 2: there was the big lead up to the Chiefs playing
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Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl and everybody's what's Taylor Swift gonna wear?
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Speaker 2: And are they going to get engaged? Is she pregnant?
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Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah blah. Were you thinking what about
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Speaker 2: my brother? What about my brother? Because I was thinking
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Speaker 2: that the whole way through the Super Bowl.
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, you know, every day we've been saying this, and
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Speaker 4: you know, it kind of went a radio asilent for
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Speaker 4: a very long time. And then you know, we were
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Speaker 4: still hearing that there was no foul play. You know,
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Speaker 4: there's there's just too much still out there, and it's
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Speaker 4: it's all about what's going to come out of trial.
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Speaker 4: But you know there's still lots of questions.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, Jonathan, there is absolutely gonna to be
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Speaker 2: a trial.
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Speaker 1: You guys kept in the.
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Speaker 2: Dark for so long, which must have been agonizing, agonizing
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Speaker 2: as you wanted so badly for your brother to get justice,
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Speaker 2: and to think that for all that time, he sat
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Speaker 2: in his house, throwing back the booze, hanging around in
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Speaker 2: his underwear. And this guy is no idiot. He's a scientist,
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Speaker 2: for Pete's sake. Ignoring the dead body in allounced chair
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Speaker 2: on the porch, ignoring his friend's cars parked directly in
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Speaker 2: front of his house. How can you ignore that? How
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Speaker 2: can you not hear the phone for two days, not
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Speaker 2: notice that you are being barraged in social media and
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Speaker 2: texts and emails, acting like nothing happened, and then to
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Speaker 2: pack up and leave town.
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Speaker 1: Well, this is how the whole thing started.
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Speaker 5: January seventh, there is a football day for the Kansas
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Speaker 5: City Chiefs as they will be playing the Los Angeles Chargers.
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Speaker 5: So thirty eight year old Jordan Willis it's a couple
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Speaker 5: of buddies to come to his house and watch the game.
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Speaker 5: David Harrington, Ricky Johnson, and Clayton mcghiney arrive at Willis's
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Speaker 5: house just in time for the three twenty five kickoff.
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Speaker 5: They enjoy the games. The Chiefs beat the Chargers thirteen
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Speaker 5: to twelve, and Willis makes plans for them to get
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Speaker 5: tickets to the next home game.
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Speaker 2: So everything's fine. They're all there watching the game together.
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Speaker 2: Then what happens after the game? Jordan Willis waves the
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Speaker 2: guys off and crashes on the couch.
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Speaker 5: On Monday, January eighth, Jordan Willis claims he did not
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Speaker 5: leave his home at all. He would normally have to
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Speaker 5: take his dogs Sadie and Daisy outside to do their business,
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Speaker 5: but they're all staying at his dad's place.
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Speaker 1: Okay, wait a minute.
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Speaker 2: He had described his dogs as the quote loves of
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Speaker 2: his life. How did they end up somewhere else? Okay,
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Speaker 2: that's just a tangential question. But right there, something is
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Speaker 2: way wrong.
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Speaker 1: Joining me.
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Speaker 2: Crime Stories investigative reporter Dave Matt Right there.
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Speaker 1: Dave, Jordan Willison, this is on a sun the scientist.
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Speaker 2: He waves away the friends and claims he crashes on
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Speaker 2: the sofa for.
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Speaker 1: What the next two or three days?
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Speaker 2: I mean, if you take it from Sunday until finally
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Speaker 2: the police were at the front door after the girlfriend
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Speaker 2: breaks in the window to find the dead body and
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Speaker 2: starts screaming.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's his story day, seriously.
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Speaker 5: And he's sticking to it, Nancy. He has always claimed
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Speaker 5: that he crashed out, doesn't know what the guys did.
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Speaker 5: He was sound asleep for the next seventy two hours,
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Speaker 5: and he missed all the messages. He didn't get any
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Speaker 5: pet he didn't get any text messages, phone calls because
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Speaker 5: that phone was ringing off the hook. All those guys,
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Speaker 5: family and friends were reaching out to him because they
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Speaker 5: were always in contact. But Jordan Willis claims he slept
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Speaker 5: through the entire thing for three days and he only
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Speaker 5: got up when they basically broke into his house and
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Speaker 5: tell him there were dead guys on the backyard.
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Speaker 2: Jonathan Price is with me. This is Ricky Johnson's brother
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Speaker 2: who passed away. You know, when I think about what
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Speaker 2: he went through, it was so cold out there, do
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Speaker 2: you let yourself. I mean, I try not to think
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Speaker 2: about what my fiance went through when he was murdered.
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Speaker 2: He was shot five times in the face, the neck,
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Speaker 2: the head, and I try not to think about it,
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Speaker 2: because it will mess me up so badly, and I
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Speaker 2: have children to raise. Do you ever let yourself think
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Speaker 2: about what Ricky went through while their friend was inside
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Speaker 2: in his underwear passed out.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think about that all the time, you know,
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Speaker 4: especially with you know, these these three gentlemen, you know,
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Speaker 4: being inseparable for a very very long time, and for
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Speaker 4: all three of them to happen at the exact same time,
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Speaker 4: and what some of them were going through in the
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Speaker 4: final moments of seeing maybe one of their friends go
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Speaker 4: down first. So many questions still on how that would
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Speaker 4: have happened.
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Speaker 2: And I pray that all the facts, not just some
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Speaker 2: of the facts, but that all the facts will come
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Speaker 2: out and we will know.
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Speaker 1: Is no idiot?
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Speaker 2: Three days Sunday Monday Tuesy, and I never knew my friend.
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Speaker 1: My friend was dead.
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Speaker 2: On the front on the back porch, and my other
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Speaker 2: friends were dead lying in my yard.
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Speaker 1: How can he? How can he say that? Oh? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and all the phone.
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Speaker 2: Calls and all the texts and all the emails and
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Speaker 2: all the social media.
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Speaker 1: He said he was wearing noise canceling headphones for three days.
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Speaker 6: Really, he says he was wearing noise canceling earphones, and
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Speaker 6: he was in his house. He didn't notice the car
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Speaker 6: in front, and he didn't notice three of his friends.
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Speaker 6: He wasn't texting them the day after. Hey, guys, let's
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Speaker 6: go get tickets for the next game because the Chiefs
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Speaker 6: had won. Completely acted like he was completely shut off
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Speaker 6: from the whole world and noise canceling headphones. Sure, maybe right,
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Speaker 6: You maybe can't hear a little in the next room,
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Speaker 6: but you're going to hear people beating on your door
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Speaker 6: and you're going to see your phone flowing up for
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Speaker 6: two days.
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Speaker 1: So let me understand something, Dave Mac.
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Speaker 2: How many days passed before the girlfriend the fiance has
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Speaker 2: to come and literally break in?
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Speaker 1: When did that happen? Just give me a number.
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Speaker 7: Two days?
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Speaker 1: All right?
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Speaker 5: Two days?
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Speaker 1: What day was on the game was Tuesday?
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Speaker 5: Games on Saturday, on Sunday the seventh, and Tuesday the
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Speaker 5: ninth is the day police are at the door.
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Speaker 1: Okay, you know what.
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Speaker 2: They didn't teach me math in law school. But seven
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Speaker 2: eight nine, that's three days. Seven is Sunday, the day
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Speaker 2: of the game, which is in the early afternoon, all night,
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Speaker 2: all day Monday until finally Tuesday, when the fiance is
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Speaker 2: beside herself. She can't find her fiance and goes looking
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Speaker 2: for him.
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Speaker 1: Listen.
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Speaker 8: On January eight, friends and family are concerned. They were
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Speaker 8: headed to Jordan willis house to watch the game, but
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Speaker 8: now none of the guys, including Jordan Willis, are replying
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Speaker 8: to messages on social media or by phone.
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Speaker 9: On Tuesday, January ninth, nine fifty one pm, Clayton McKinney's
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Speaker 9: fiance shows up at the house. She sees the cars
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Speaker 9: in the driveway, and since nobody is answering the phone
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Speaker 9: or replying to messages, she breaks into the home and
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Speaker 9: screams Willis's name. She walks through the house. Then she
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Speaker 9: looks on the back porch and sees a body.
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Speaker 2: Oh my stars, okay, Jonathan Price is joining me.
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Speaker 1: This is Ricky's brother, beloved brother.
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Speaker 2: I might ad they grew up together and they would
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Speaker 2: argue about who's going to watch Power Rangers and.
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Speaker 1: Who's gonna watch ESPN.
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Speaker 2: Very very loving relationship, their whole lives.
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Speaker 1: In my mind, that's three days.
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Speaker 2: You got the Chiefs game early afternoon Sunday, there together
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Speaker 2: in Sunday night all day Monday, Monday night, and then
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Speaker 2: Tuesday nine fifty one. That's nearly ten o'clock at night,
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Speaker 2: Clayton's fiance comes hysterical trying to find him, has to
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Speaker 2: break in and seize a dead body. Is my timing correct, Jonathan?
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Speaker 4: I mean it appears to be correct. You know, I'm
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Speaker 4: not very good at math either, but you know, there's
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Speaker 4: there's a question in my mind that there's no possible
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Speaker 4: way you can sleep that long and just not know
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Speaker 4: what's going on.
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Speaker 1: I agree, Jonathan, no way.
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Speaker 2: What was he doing in the joining me is a
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Speaker 2: veteran defense attorney who has handled a number of high
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Speaker 2: profile cases. Derek Smith is joining me out of Ohio.
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Speaker 2: He's at d W Smithlegal dot com. Derek, really the
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Speaker 2: defense I slept through the whole thing. I mean, for
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Speaker 2: those of you who just joining us, finally movement a
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Speaker 2: bombshell arrest of two people in connection with the deaths
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Speaker 2: of three Kansas City chiefs fans who were frozen to
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Speaker 2: death and their buddy, the scientist backyard Derek Smith.
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Speaker 1: Can he really look at.
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Speaker 2: A jury and say, I slept for three days with
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Speaker 2: noise canceling headsets on, I knew nothing.
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Speaker 1: Yes and no.
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Speaker 10: This is a terrible situation. Is best friends some of
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Speaker 10: his frenzies with this whole entire life. Like they said,
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Speaker 10: they were very close utter uttershock and disbelief and just
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Speaker 10: manic depression will put somebody down. Looking out your window
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Speaker 10: and seeing your friends in the condition they were in.
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Speaker 10: That's enough right there to send a person into deep shock,
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Speaker 10: disbelief and just pass right back out.
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Speaker 1: Does not want to be that's a good one.
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Speaker 2: So he saw the bodies and then passed back out,
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Speaker 2: you know to doctor Hidie Green joining me, clinical psychologist,
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Speaker 2: trauma specialist, author of The Path to Self Love and
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Speaker 2: World Domination, Doctor Heidie Green dot com, Doctor Heidi. So
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Speaker 2: now we're getting a spin on that and no telling
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Speaker 2: what it's going to morph into by the time this
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Speaker 2: goes to trial. So Jonathan Price braced yourself. So Derek
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Speaker 2: Smith is spinning it out, you know, like Rumpel Stileskin
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Speaker 2: would take that nasty hay out of the barn and
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Speaker 2: spin it into gold. He is now hypothesizing that the defendant,
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Speaker 2: one of the two arrested in the desks of three
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Speaker 2: people that were left to freeze out.
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Speaker 1: In the yard one on his porch, is that he.
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Speaker 2: Came to from his deep sleep. You know, I'll throw
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Speaker 2: in sleeping beauty. There he came to saw the dead
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Speaker 2: body of his friend and then passed out. Doctor Heidie Green,
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Speaker 2: psychologically speaking, that seems very unlikely to me.
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Speaker 7: So it is very unlikely that he fell unconscious for
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Speaker 7: seventy two hours as a result of a significant trauma.
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Speaker 7: And we can say if your friends died accidentally, if
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Speaker 7: that's what we're going with, and you saw them in
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Speaker 7: your home, it's obviously possible that you would have a
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Speaker 7: significant trauma response, and that trauma response could include a
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Speaker 7: freeze response. I could see somebody maybe being in their
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Speaker 7: house terrified to answer the throne, terrified to go and
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Speaker 7: look at the bodies, wanting to essentially just pretend like
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Speaker 7: nothing's going on. But to actually be unconscious for seventy
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Speaker 7: two hours, that seems far less likely as a trauma report.
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Speaker 2: Crime Stores with Nancy Grace, it was a bone chilling
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Speaker 2: January nine, mcgheiney's fiance, April Mahoney, actually broke into Willis's
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Speaker 2: home after she had called over and over and over
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Speaker 2: frantically trying to find her love, who she had not
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Speaker 2: heard from for two days, and it was there she
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Speaker 2: found the bodies of three men in all frozen solid,
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Speaker 2: all still dressed in their Kansas City Chiefs gear, slumped
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Speaker 2: in the backyard, and now there remained two, Jordan Willis
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Speaker 2: and Ivory Carson. The two sat lesson five feet apart
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Speaker 2: in court as a judge ruled their case. We'll go
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Speaker 2: to trial. What happened that Sunday afternoon.
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Speaker 8: Clayton mcguinea's fiance Colls Police officers arrived to find Willis
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Speaker 8: in his underwear with an empty glass of wine in hand.
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Speaker 8: According to the victims' families, the other two bodies were
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Speaker 8: then found in the backyard. Jordan Willis tells police he
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Speaker 8: has no idea what happened. John Piserno, and attorney representing Willis,
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Speaker 8: said his client had no idea his friends were dead
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Speaker 8: until police knocked on his door. Tayley Lettier wrote, my
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Speaker 8: husband banged on his door for twenty minutes. My friend
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Speaker 8: banged on his door and then busted a window and
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Speaker 8: yelled and announced her presence while she's inside and steal
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Speaker 8: nothing from him. Then the cops come ten minutes later,
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Speaker 8: and he comes out nonchalant in his boxers with an
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Speaker 8: empty wine glass in hand. Nothing is adding up. Dave
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Speaker 8: clay and Ricky need and deserve justice.
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Speaker 2: Yes they do. And Jonathan Price is with me. This
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Speaker 2: is Ricky's brother, Jonathan. Your brother is always described as
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Speaker 2: a Kansas City Chief fan. That's really not doing him justice.
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Speaker 2: He was so much more. Tell me, well, Ricky was
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Speaker 2: very humble.
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Speaker 4: He loved everybody he ever interacted with. He always saw
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Speaker 4: the good and people. He helped out anybody in need anytime,
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Speaker 4: no matter if at one time they were seen as
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Speaker 4: you know, enemies or or you know, just not friends
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Speaker 4: in general. But he was just such a kind person,
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Speaker 4: loving father, brother, son, cousin. You know, he he was
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Speaker 4: truly cherished by our entire family.
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Speaker 1: Tell me about your family, Well, I mean.
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Speaker 4: We kind of we grew up, you know, separated at
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Speaker 4: some points, but we always came together for family events.
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Speaker 11: You know.
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Speaker 4: We were always there at Christmas times, holding our own
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Speaker 4: different Christmases to make sure that all of our schedules
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Speaker 4: matched up to where we can all see each other.
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Speaker 4: And when I was in the military, anytime I came
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Speaker 4: home there Ricky and my other brother Russie, they always
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Speaker 4: made it a point, and my sister Lisa, they always
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Speaker 4: all made it a point to come home all to
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Speaker 4: be together every time. So we you know, we chaished
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Speaker 4: each other. And there's very fond memories of uh of
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Speaker 4: Ricky growing up and everything he was to all of us.
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Speaker 1: When you say the memories you had growing up? What memories?
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Speaker 4: Well, my love for football, I love for all sports
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Speaker 4: came from Ricky. You know, seeing my my two oldest brothers,
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Speaker 4: you know, throwing the football farther than I could imagine
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Speaker 4: when I was a you know, small child. I just
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Speaker 4: I looked up to them. You know, we we went
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Speaker 4: to the very first game that Patrion Mahomes was playing
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Speaker 4: in the preseason, and uh we you know, he met
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Speaker 4: my entire family, and you know, even though we were
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Speaker 4: states away, you know, we always we always talked about
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Speaker 4: the sports of Kansas City and you know, everything that
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Speaker 4: we were accomplishing. Finally, after so many years of being
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Speaker 4: you know, an up and down team. You know, we
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Speaker 4: we shared a lot of memories together, and uh, I
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Speaker 4: just I love them.
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Speaker 2: We are learning more about the deaths of the so
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Speaker 2: called Three Chiefs Fans.
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Speaker 12: As news starts to spread of the three friends freezing
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Speaker 12: to death in the backyard while their friend is asleep inside.
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Speaker 12: The families of the victims begin to speak out and
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Speaker 12: ask questions. The biggest question for Jordan Willis is what
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Speaker 12: happened next? Was why didn't you answer calls, text messages
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Speaker 12: and social media messages from family and friends of the
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Speaker 12: three men.
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Speaker 5: The Daily Mail reports. Willis insists he spent the next
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Speaker 5: two days in his home not thinking anything of the
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Speaker 5: fact that his friend's cars were still outside, and only
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Speaker 5: learned they died when the fiance of one of the
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Speaker 5: men broke into the house on January ninth in the
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Speaker 5: hopes of finding him.
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Speaker 2: Jonathan Price, Where were the victims cars part in relation
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Speaker 2: to the friends home?
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Speaker 4: I guess if you're based on what I've heard, if
21:54
Speaker 4: you look out the front door, they were just off
21:56
Speaker 4: to the right, And I guess there was potentially out
22:00
Speaker 4: of the three cars, because I think someone might have carpooled.
22:03
Speaker 4: But either way, my brother drove in that F one fifty,
22:07
Speaker 4: so it was, you know, se my large truck right
22:11
Speaker 4: there in the front. There's no way to miss it.
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Speaker 2: So Barry Hudgeson joining me, former l e now chief
22:17
Speaker 2: investigator for Barry and Associates Investigative Services in Kansas and Missouri.
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Speaker 1: Barry, let me understand, So this.
22:25
Speaker 2: Guy, the so called friend could find a wine glass
22:29
Speaker 2: and fill it up with wine, and find his noise
22:31
Speaker 2: canceling headphones. He could find those, he could see those,
22:35
Speaker 2: but he couldn't see his dead friend on the porch
22:38
Speaker 2: and in the yard, or their vehicles part in front
22:41
Speaker 2: of his house.
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Speaker 13: Man see this story, you know, his his excuses for
22:47
Speaker 13: how everything happened.
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Speaker 4: It just makes no sense at all.
22:50
Speaker 13: You know, I've been thinking about this and one of
22:52
Speaker 13: the things that I thought about. You know, the guy
22:54
Speaker 13: came to the door in his underwear and he said
22:57
Speaker 13: that he had been asleep for seventy two hours. We
23:00
Speaker 13: knew that he'd been drinking a lot, apparently, so if
23:04
Speaker 13: he slept for solid three hours, don't you think his
23:06
Speaker 13: body would have evacuated while he was asleep for three
23:09
Speaker 13: solid days. If he never got up, he would have
23:11
Speaker 13: wet hisself. Did he come to the door with soiled
23:14
Speaker 13: underwear or did he look like he urinated on his sef?
23:16
Speaker 13: You know, when you arrest a drunk on the street
23:19
Speaker 13: most of the time and they're awake, theype all over
23:22
Speaker 13: their self. This guy didn't look like he urinated on
23:25
Speaker 13: his stef because if he didn't, that kind of shoots
23:26
Speaker 13: that story right in behind the end if he.
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Speaker 1: Asked me, Yeah, I mean he had to get up
23:30
Speaker 1: and go to the bathroom.
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Speaker 2: Doctor Kendall Crown's joining me, and he's here for other reasons,
23:35
Speaker 2: but since we're on this topic, Doctor Kendall Crown's with me.
23:39
Speaker 2: Chief Medical Examiner Terrant County. That's fort Worth never Alike,
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Speaker 2: a business esteemed lecturer at Burnett's School of Medicine TCU
23:48
Speaker 2: and launching a new PODCASTA Dead on Arrival March seven.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Crown's is that true what Barry just told us?
23:58
Speaker 2: I mean, how could he go seventy two hours drinking
24:02
Speaker 2: let me add that in and not getting up and
24:04
Speaker 2: finding his way to the bathroom.
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Speaker 14: Oh, I agree with that. There's no way you could
24:08
Speaker 14: sleep for three days after consuming them with chilcohol and
24:11
Speaker 14: also eating that. Your body wouldn't urinate on itself for defecates.
24:16
Speaker 14: So it's impossible to believe that he spent that entire
24:20
Speaker 14: time asleep and not getting up and go at least
24:23
Speaker 14: going to the bathroom.
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Speaker 9: Jordan Willis's attorney, John Piserno, refuses to answer questions about
24:28
Speaker 9: whether the men were using drugs. Paserno says there was
24:31
Speaker 9: a fifth man in the home on the night of
24:32
Speaker 9: January seventh. Willis says the man is a buddy who
24:35
Speaker 9: left earlier than the other three men.
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Speaker 5: As the investigation heated up, Jordan Willis moved out of
24:40
Speaker 5: the home and checked into rehab. A forensic data extraction
24:44
Speaker 5: found text messages on Harrington's phone between Willis, mcgheini, Johnson,
24:49
Speaker 5: and others that proved Carson was the person who supplied
24:52
Speaker 5: the group with cocaine, DNA evidence mash Willis identifying him
24:56
Speaker 5: as a major contributor, and DNA evidence from the second bag.
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Speaker 5: Matt Carson, confirming his role as the drugs of liar.
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Speaker 1: Packs up and goes to rehab.
25:07
Speaker 2: So to Jonathan Price, when did you learn that the
25:10
Speaker 2: so called best friend of your brother packs up, clears
25:15
Speaker 2: out the house, takes his dog, and goes to rehab.
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Speaker 4: I mean, the only time that we found out was
25:21
Speaker 4: whenever he was reported in the news, which is kind
25:24
Speaker 4: of the unfortunate part of all this. But if you
25:27
Speaker 4: have the mental capacity to know you have a problem
25:29
Speaker 4: after the fact and check yourself into rehab, then you
25:32
Speaker 4: know you know more about what happened that night. And
25:36
Speaker 4: I don't know if you shared that or not with
25:38
Speaker 4: the authorities. But the fact that he was not detained,
25:43
Speaker 4: you know, after that night or the past fourteen months,
25:46
Speaker 4: doesn't really make any sense to me.
25:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know too, Derek Smith. Why is that the
25:50
Speaker 2: go to with your clients and all the stars. It's
25:54
Speaker 2: only after they're busted for something that they suddenly realize
25:59
Speaker 2: they have a problem and they hide out in rehabit.
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Speaker 10: Well, unfortunately, it takes an event like that to really
26:04
Speaker 10: change lifestyle or change a mindset or even in these
26:08
Speaker 10: cases a serious edition.
26:10
Speaker 4: I mean, it's akin to.
26:13
Speaker 10: Being in a certain way of life, certain way of
26:16
Speaker 10: doing things. Everything's fine as long as everything's fine, and
26:18
Speaker 10: then something tragic or something terrible, or the law gets
26:20
Speaker 10: involved and you have to make a drastic change.
26:23
Speaker 4: And that's unfortunately just how it is. Sometimes.
26:25
Speaker 2: Joining me right now is a special guest just joining us,
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Speaker 2: Eric Zand is with us. It is the Platte County
26:36
Speaker 2: prosecutor who was working on the case. And I know
26:40
Speaker 2: Eric number one, thank you for being with us. But
26:43
Speaker 2: I know what you can say is limited, having been
26:46
Speaker 2: a prosecutor for many years myself, but I want to
26:48
Speaker 2: thank you for being with us. The family questioned this
26:53
Speaker 2: from the get go, and I know the prosecutors get
26:56
Speaker 2: the case once LA law enforcement finished their investigation. But
27:02
Speaker 2: I'm sure you know, having dealt with so many crime victims,
27:05
Speaker 2: how agonizing this has been for the family to be
27:09
Speaker 2: waiving the banner. This isn't right, This isn't normal. This
27:14
Speaker 2: guy's not innocent. He won't say a word to us
27:17
Speaker 2: about what happened. This is the alleged best friend. They've
27:20
Speaker 2: been waiting all this time. Now, Eric, don't get me wrong,
27:25
Speaker 2: I'm glad we finally have bombshell arrests in the deaths
27:30
Speaker 2: of the three Kansas City chiefs.
27:32
Speaker 1: Fans, but what took so long? Please explain it?
27:35
Speaker 11: Yeah, You're absolutely right, And Nancy, this was a long
27:38
Speaker 11: time coming. And our hearts absolutely go out to these
27:42
Speaker 11: family members. I met with them shortly after these deaths,
27:47
Speaker 11: and it's just really tragic. It's honestly, it's another reminder
27:52
Speaker 11: of the dangers of street drugs, and these cases are
27:55
Speaker 11: tough to put together. Cracking down who's responsible providing these
28:00
Speaker 11: drugs is no easy task. But I can't tell you
28:04
Speaker 11: how proud I am Nancy of the Kansas City Police
28:07
Speaker 11: Department and prosecutors in my office who from day one
28:12
Speaker 11: said that they weren't going to rest until we exhausted
28:15
Speaker 11: every possible resource to bring the people we believe responsible
28:20
Speaker 11: for these crimes to justice, and yesterday was the first
28:24
Speaker 11: step in that. As you know, these men are presumed
28:26
Speaker 11: innocent and lesson until proven guilty. But we've charged them
28:29
Speaker 11: what we think happened, which was providing cocaine and fentanyl
28:34
Speaker 11: and causing the deaths of these three men.
28:37
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, this is what Platte County
28:40
Speaker 2: Prosecutor Eric Zand had to say.
28:42
Speaker 3: A doctor with Forensic Medical of Kansas found that mister mcgheini,
28:47
Speaker 3: mister Harrington, and mister Johnson all died of fentanyl and
28:51
Speaker 3: cocaine combined toxicity.
28:53
Speaker 1: Now from our forensic KMBC nine News.
28:56
Speaker 2: So Eric assertion, what you're going to prove, I think
29:02
Speaker 2: in trial is that the casual use of a little cocaine,
29:07
Speaker 2: although family says that at least one of the victims
29:12
Speaker 2: had never used cocaine before, but the casual use of
29:15
Speaker 2: cocaine turned deadly because it was cut with fentanyl.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, in this case, what we alleged is that there
29:23
Speaker 11: were two baggies found at the scene. One of those
29:27
Speaker 11: baggies contained cocaine. The other baggie we alleged contained fentanyl.
29:33
Speaker 11: The me found that it was a combination of those
29:35
Speaker 11: two drugs that caused these men's deaths. And so we've
29:39
Speaker 11: charged both of the men, one of them who we
29:42
Speaker 11: believe provided the cocaine, the other who we alleged sold
29:47
Speaker 11: the fentanyl that caused these deaths. And we allege, because
29:53
Speaker 11: we charged with them with manslaughter, that they recklessly caused
29:57
Speaker 11: the deaths of these three men.
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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, listen to what Jonathan Price
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Speaker 1: had to say.
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Speaker 15: From the very beginning. He said that before the fifth
30:06
Speaker 15: person came out, he said that Jordan was there sporadically
30:09
Speaker 15: throughout the day and then whenever. And then he also
30:14
Speaker 15: did not mention in a fifth person. But once the
30:16
Speaker 15: fifth person came out, then he changed it to saying
30:19
Speaker 15: that there was a fifth person and that he was
30:22
Speaker 15: asleep the entire time. So those were two very specific
30:26
Speaker 15: details that were specific in the opening statement but then
30:30
Speaker 15: changed over time.
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Speaker 2: So Alexis Tereschuk, joining US Crime Stories investigative reporter the
30:36
Speaker 2: best friend now charged in a homicide case, changed his story.
30:42
Speaker 2: He never mentioned anybody else was there beside him and
30:46
Speaker 2: his three buddies all dead, frozen dead in the backyard,
30:50
Speaker 2: and he goes three days and doesn't notice they're on
30:53
Speaker 2: his back porch. There's a mystery guy, a fifth person.
30:57
Speaker 2: Act says he changed his story. Why because the fifth
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Speaker 2: person was a person that provided the drugs.
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Speaker 6: According to police, this is somebody who they have all
31:05
Speaker 6: known for quite a while that Jordan has known, and
31:08
Speaker 6: he was contacted and this man brought the drugs.
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Speaker 1: This so there's cocaine.
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Speaker 6: Jordan Willis's DNA is on the cocaine, Ivory Carson's DNA
31:18
Speaker 6: is on the bag of fentanyl, and that is the
31:20
Speaker 6: toxic combination that killed these men. So he was he
31:25
Speaker 6: had come over and brought them the cocaine. And the
31:28
Speaker 6: way that the police found this out wasn't through Jordan Willis.
31:31
Speaker 6: He never mentioned any of these details. But David Harrington's
31:35
Speaker 6: phone is the one phone that they were able to
31:39
Speaker 6: extract evidence from, and they saw on there there were
31:41
Speaker 6: group chats about buying the cocaine. Willis was the one
31:44
Speaker 6: that would always provide it for them. These other guys
31:46
Speaker 6: didn't have enough cocaines expensive it's not a cheap drug.
31:50
Speaker 6: And then you topped that off of the Fennyl and
31:52
Speaker 6: he was the one that did it. So there were
31:53
Speaker 6: group chat tech messages that showed that these were having out.
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Speaker 1: The drugs to air.
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Speaker 2: Exanne joining me right now, Platts County prosecutor who is
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Speaker 2: charged with last swing all this evidence and presenting it
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Speaker 2: to a jury, did he really think we wouldn't find
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Speaker 2: out about the fifth guy, the mystery man, and all
32:15
Speaker 2: of his statements at the get go that was never mentioned.
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Speaker 1: Now we know why he was the dope.
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Speaker 11: Dealer well, and Nancy I can't. I can't comment on
32:22
Speaker 11: exactly what either of these defendants thought or said, but
32:27
Speaker 11: what I can tell you is that we allege that
32:30
Speaker 11: mister Willis provided cocaine and mister Carson sold Entinel to
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Speaker 11: these men, and we alleged that resulted in the deaths
32:40
Speaker 11: of these three great people who were boyfriend's husbands, fathers,
32:48
Speaker 11: sons of people in Kansas City. It's truly tragic. And
32:54
Speaker 11: here's what folks have to understand. If you deal drugs
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Speaker 11: and somebody dies as a result, we will do everything
33:04
Speaker 11: we can to make sure that you're held accountable for
33:07
Speaker 11: the deaths of those people. That's exactly what we're trying
33:10
Speaker 11: to do in this case.
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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: The bodies of David Harrington, Clayton mcgheaney, and Ricky Johnson
33:28
Speaker 2: all found in the backyard of their friend Jordan Willis's
33:33
Speaker 2: home Kansas City last January, frozen dead. The temperature that
33:42
Speaker 2: night was just eighteen degrees fear and height. One of
33:46
Speaker 2: the victims seated upright in a patio chair, the others
33:50
Speaker 2: lying sprawled nearby, ice crusted on their faces. Investigators now
33:58
Speaker 2: calling it quote foul play by stealth and to psychology
34:02
Speaker 2: reports confirm all three died of cocaine laced with fentanel.
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Speaker 2: Police even find two plastic baggies in the home, one
34:11
Speaker 2: containing cocaine with Willis's DNA and another with fentanyl and
34:16
Speaker 2: Carson's DNA. Video was shown in court Willis sitting in
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Speaker 2: the back of a police cart telling his version of
34:24
Speaker 2: the night before. He went on to insist he had
34:28
Speaker 2: no idea his friends died just steps away from him.
34:33
Speaker 2: What more do we know?
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Speaker 15: You look at any of their facebooks, any picture that's
34:37
Speaker 15: posted that it's not of their family, it's of these men.
34:40
Speaker 15: And if just one of them, even two of them,
34:44
Speaker 15: passed out at the same time, which is already impossible.
34:48
Speaker 15: You know, the other man would have absolutely brought them
34:51
Speaker 15: inside and called for help something. So that's just insane.
34:55
Speaker 2: This is what Platt County Prosecutor Eric Xander tells us.
34:58
Speaker 3: He saw a large play of cocaine allegedly supplied by
35:02
Speaker 3: mister Willis that everyone was using.
35:05
Speaker 2: According to prosecutors, the defendant provided it, the friend, the friend,
35:12
Speaker 2: the scientists, the HIV researcher Jordan Willis, H thirty nine.
35:16
Speaker 2: The best friend supplied a plate of coke, possibly laced
35:23
Speaker 2: with fentanyl to his friends. You were just hearing from
35:28
Speaker 2: our friends at KMBC nine US to doctor Kendall Crown's
35:33
Speaker 2: joining us, Doctor Kendll crowns, I want to understand how
35:37
Speaker 2: the use of these drugs, potentially cocaine cut with fentanyl.
35:42
Speaker 2: Don't know if they knew it was cut with fentanyl,
35:45
Speaker 2: what that would look like. I mean, it's hard for
35:48
Speaker 2: me to understand. Although I've heard about it, I've prosecuted,
35:51
Speaker 2: I've seen it at crime scenes where you have a
35:53
Speaker 2: party and there's a plate of cocaine out. I mean,
35:58
Speaker 2: I would think there'd be sandwiches and chicken wings right, salery, carrots,
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Speaker 2: ranch dip. There's a plate of cocaine and everybody's doing it.
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Speaker 1: You know how many times have you heard that, mom?
36:09
Speaker 1: Everybody's doing it?
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Speaker 2: How are people supposed to know that cocaine can be
36:15
Speaker 2: laced with dentanyl and what fentanyl can do with you?
36:19
Speaker 2: Even a touch a fentanyl can kill you. So what
36:24
Speaker 2: would fentanyl look like? Can it be in a powder form?
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Speaker 14: Yes, it can. Actually it'll be kind of in a wipe.
36:32
Speaker 14: It can be in a white pottery form. It can
36:34
Speaker 14: be in the form of a fake percocet, which is
36:37
Speaker 14: a blue pill that has an M thirty label on it.
36:40
Speaker 14: It can be a patch. It can even be on
36:42
Speaker 14: a lazengers type sucker is one of the ways it
36:45
Speaker 14: is distributed. But anyway, cocaine, if it's cut with something fentanyl,
36:52
Speaker 14: can be very deadly.
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Speaker 1: And you don't know.
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Speaker 14: How much fentanyl has been put in there, how much
36:56
Speaker 14: fentanyl you're actually getting with the amount of cocaine that's
36:59
Speaker 14: been cut with it. So that's why you could have
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Speaker 14: a group of people sitting together and three of them
37:05
Speaker 14: die and two of them live because one got more
37:08
Speaker 14: fentanyl than the other. Because it's really not regulated like
37:11
Speaker 14: a drug through the FDA. It's just widely all over
37:16
Speaker 14: the place. So that's why the street drugs are very
37:19
Speaker 14: dangerous as you never know what you're getting. And one thing,
37:21
Speaker 14: we've had cocaine cut with a dog dee wormer as well,
37:25
Speaker 14: so it's incredibly dangerous.
37:27
Speaker 2: Under Kendel crowns, I have investigated cases, for instance, an
37:32
Speaker 2: infant at daycare. Little did the family know that the
37:38
Speaker 2: daycare provider was storing fentanyl there also dealing like I
37:44
Speaker 2: think the husband or the boyfriend was dealing, and they
37:48
Speaker 2: moved the fentanyl from one place to the next inside
37:52
Speaker 2: the daycare, and that movement released particles of fentanyl and
37:59
Speaker 2: the infant in hailed it or touched it.
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Speaker 1: It killed the baby.
38:04
Speaker 2: So if you've got a plate of cocaine lace with
38:07
Speaker 2: any finnel at all, there's your OD right there. What
38:11
Speaker 2: started off, as I guess in good time is in death.
38:15
Speaker 2: I mean you can die from even inhaling particles or
38:18
Speaker 2: touching particles of finfandol.
38:20
Speaker 14: Yes, fentanyl is incredibly dangerous and even its friend or
38:24
Speaker 14: another derivative of it, car fentanyl, is even more dangerous.
38:28
Speaker 14: It's come down to the fact that law enforcement and
38:30
Speaker 14: paramedics will now carry in a lock zone, which is
38:33
Speaker 14: a way to counteract the effects of the opioid in
38:38
Speaker 14: their rigs or in their cars to if they get
38:41
Speaker 14: exposed to it and begin having symptoms, they can take
38:43
Speaker 14: it and try and save themselves. So fentanyl is incredibly dangerous.
38:47
Speaker 14: It's not a drug you really should mess with, you know.
38:50
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking about these victims and how they ended
38:55
Speaker 2: up frozen in plain view of their so called Jordan Willis.
39:03
Speaker 2: You know, I'm trying to think about their families. Dave
39:07
Speaker 2: mac tell me about the victims' families. I know Jonathan
39:11
Speaker 2: is here speaking on behalf of his brother Ricky, who
39:14
Speaker 2: died that day, whose body sat out there freezing for
39:18
Speaker 2: so long.
39:19
Speaker 1: What about the other victims, you know?
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Speaker 5: Nancy? Mister Harrington's mom, Theresa, claimed she's been kept out
39:26
Speaker 5: of the loop since the bodies were found. She said
39:29
Speaker 5: that they wouldn't tell me anything. Now she is saying
39:32
Speaker 5: that the statements made it easy to think that they
39:37
Speaker 5: had already made up their minds and there wouldn't be
39:39
Speaker 5: any further investigation. And she's really pushing back on this.
39:42
Speaker 5: She said the arrest didn't really clear up any speculation
39:45
Speaker 5: about the dead, saying quote, I still don't know anything
39:49
Speaker 5: about how my son died or his last moments. That's
39:52
Speaker 5: pretty upsetting when you look at this over a year
39:55
Speaker 5: down the road, that she doesn't know any more than
39:57
Speaker 5: you and I might know.
39:58
Speaker 1: Well, Kendall Crown's what was some one go through?
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Speaker 2: If they literally sat outside and an accidental ventyl stupor
40:09
Speaker 2: and froze dead, that would be horrible, But they couldn't
40:14
Speaker 2: get up and move.
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Speaker 14: So basically, fentyl makes your respiratory drive decrease and makes
40:20
Speaker 14: your brain not think it needs enough oxygen, and so
40:24
Speaker 14: you slowly kind of drift off into a coma that
40:27
Speaker 14: eventually your brain, not getting enough oxygen, begins to die,
40:31
Speaker 14: which causes your lungs to fill with fluid, and then
40:35
Speaker 14: you pass away. It wouldn't necessarily immobilize you to the
40:39
Speaker 14: point that you couldn't get up and get yourself out
40:41
Speaker 14: of an unsafe situation unless you've gone into a coma.
40:45
Speaker 2: So those individuals, how would they sit there and on
40:48
Speaker 2: the porch and a lounge chair and lay in the
40:52
Speaker 2: backyard if they could move? I mean, I'm certainly not
40:56
Speaker 2: a medical doctor, but certainly they would get up off
41:02
Speaker 2: the porch or get off the ground and come inside.
41:06
Speaker 2: According to the defendant, the door was unlocked. I submit
41:10
Speaker 2: they couldn't.
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Speaker 14: Well, that's if they're so conscious, if they've gotten enough
41:14
Speaker 14: fentyl in and it's caused them to go into basically
41:16
Speaker 14: a coma, they can't move at that point, and then
41:19
Speaker 14: they will either more likely than not die from the
41:23
Speaker 14: fentanyl prior to dying from freezing to death, because there
41:27
Speaker 14: are autopsy findings you'll find that'll show that they died
41:30
Speaker 14: from hypoth rmia or freezing to death, which I haven't
41:34
Speaker 14: seen any reports of that being found.
41:36
Speaker 1: Alexis ter Roschut.
41:37
Speaker 2: We keep referring to them as the Kansas City Chiefs fans,
41:40
Speaker 2: and they were so much more than that. Tell me
41:43
Speaker 2: about their families.
41:44
Speaker 1: Well, Clayton mcginney was engaged.
41:46
Speaker 6: He was engaged to a woman in April, Mahoney, and
41:49
Speaker 6: they were very happy together. They were very you know,
41:52
Speaker 6: he worked in construction, small business construction, and he was
41:56
Speaker 6: going through a really rough time. There weren't a lot
41:57
Speaker 6: of jobs, but they were still together at the time,
42:01
Speaker 6: and she in fact started a GoFundMe to sell everybody
42:05
Speaker 6: like he was so wonderful, and he was somebody that
42:08
Speaker 6: was her whole life, and the two of them had
42:10
Speaker 6: all these future plans together and then it was abruptly
42:13
Speaker 6: cut short. And in fact, she was the one that
42:16
Speaker 6: found that April was trying, trying trying to reach him, Clayton,
42:20
Speaker 6: calling him over and over again. She's the one that
42:23
Speaker 6: showed up at Jordan Willis's house. She broke through the
42:25
Speaker 6: basement window, she got out, she found Clayton, and then
42:29
Speaker 6: the other two guys did.
42:30
Speaker 2: Overnight we learned two arrested in the horrific deaths of
42:35
Speaker 2: three Kansas City Chiefs fans watching a football game with
42:41
Speaker 2: their so called best friend now behind bars. Arrested the
42:45
Speaker 2: so called best friend, Jordan Willis, and a guy named
42:49
Speaker 2: Ivory J.
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Speaker 1: Carson aka Blade.
42:55
Speaker 2: Okay, straight back out to Jonathan Price, this is Ricky's brother.
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Speaker 1: Tell me your thoughts.
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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, summing everything up, you know, I just
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Speaker 4: you know, he was my brother. I cherished him a lot,
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Speaker 4: and his his three daughters, you know, and you know,
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Speaker 4: so a couple of them are a little bit young
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Speaker 4: to fully understand. It's a it's very difficult to think
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Speaker 4: about what they are going through and the answers that
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Speaker 4: they've been neglected for all this time, and uh, it's
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Speaker 4: it's just, you know, very makes us very distraught.
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Speaker 2: Jonathan Price, you want to set the record straight on
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Speaker 2: some certain issues.
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Speaker 4: What well, one of the things that we've been told
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Speaker 4: since the beginning which did not make sense is the
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Speaker 4: ruling out of foul play, and you know, the the
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Speaker 4: amount of information that we've gotten since then, you know,
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Speaker 4: since January now, and it's it's been very disappointing. I'm glad.
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Speaker 4: I understand that it takes time, and you know, I'm
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Speaker 4: glad that we are finally getting some answers, but there's
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Speaker 4: there's still a lot out there that we don't fully understand.
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Speaker 4: And just three or four months ago, Jordan's lawyer was
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Speaker 4: saying that he thinks that charges will come, but not
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Speaker 4: to Jordan, and that's from talking to some prosecutor. So
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Speaker 4: that part doesn't make sense to me either. And you know,
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Speaker 4: I'm just the more I get back into this, you know,
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Speaker 4: the more pain that's coming back, just like there was
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Speaker 4: back then, and the more questions that are arising from
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Speaker 4: all of this.
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Speaker 2: Two defendants left standing in the case of three Kansas
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Speaker 2: City chiefs dead in the backyard.
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Speaker 1: The two were just feet apart in court, but never.
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Speaker 2: Even looked at each other, much less uttered a word
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Speaker 2: to each other. And that hearing went for over three hours.
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Speaker 2: That's a long long time to avoid each other's gaze.
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Speaker 2: What does that tell me They're gonna blame each other.
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Speaker 2: A lot of finger pointing is gonna go down in
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Speaker 2: this courtroom when trial occurs. We wait as justice unfolds.
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Speaker 2: Nancy Grace signing off, goodbye friend.