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- 0:00Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, the family of a missing
- 0:08Speaker 1: woman last seen running barefoot from a hotel, just told
- 0:14Speaker 1: she would be chalked into pieces and a sick ransom text.
- 0:21Speaker 2: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for
- 0:23Speaker 2: being with us.
- 0:24Speaker 3: Leila Santanello is a young Tennessee mom living with her
- 0:27Speaker 3: boyfriend Michael and baby daughter Nova. Things take a turn
- 0:30Speaker 3: when Laila and her boyfriend get into an argument and
- 0:32Speaker 3: Layla leaves the house.
- 0:36Speaker 4: And loc.
- 0:41Speaker 5: This is Leila Santanello, a young mother from Kingsport, Tennessee,
- 0:45Speaker 5: who hasn't been seen in nearly two years. Leayla is
- 0:48Speaker 5: mom to now four year old Nova Grace, who now
- 0:51Speaker 5: lives with her grandmother, Jennifer Santanello. Jennifer, Layla's father George Emman,
- 0:59Speaker 5: and stepmother Britney Zeitler are all desperate to bring Laila
- 1:02Speaker 5: home and reunite her with her daughter.
- 1:04Speaker 2: Where is Layelah? Again? Thank you for being with us
- 1:08Speaker 2: tonight and our search for missing mom? Leelah? What do
- 1:13Speaker 2: we know? Joining me and Allstar panel to make sense
- 1:16Speaker 2: of what we're learning right now? But first listen to this.
- 1:20Speaker 6: She had to sit on and there was a pink
- 1:23Speaker 6: Teddy Bear exactly like literally the same color and everything.
- 1:29Speaker 6: And he was sitting in the chair and.
- 1:31Speaker 4: He was holding her like this, right, and he had
- 1:34Speaker 4: his other.
- 1:34Speaker 2: Arm like this, She's in his lap. I took the
- 1:36Speaker 2: pink teddy.
- 1:37Speaker 4: Bear and I'll put it indybears.
- 1:42Speaker 2: You see Leela telling a story about her most precious prize,
- 1:48Speaker 2: and that would be her daughter, Nova Grace, talking about
- 1:52Speaker 2: a pink teddy bear. You know what, I want to
- 1:54Speaker 2: see that one more time, guys. Look at Leelah now missing.
- 1:58Speaker 6: She had to suit on, and there was a pink
- 2:01Speaker 6: teddy bear exactly like literally the same color and everything.
- 2:07Speaker 6: And he was sitting in the chair and he was
- 2:09Speaker 6: holding her like this right, and the end of an arm.
- 2:12Speaker 4: Like this, she said his lap.
- 2:13Speaker 2: I took the pink teddy Bear and I put it
- 2:15Speaker 2: in teddybeary. Let me go straight out now to Leyelah's
- 2:22Speaker 2: father and stepmom, George Emmett and Brittany Zeiitler to both
- 2:27Speaker 2: of you. Thank you for being with us. George, tell
- 2:30Speaker 2: me about Leela when I see her singing along to
- 2:35Speaker 2: music or talking about her baby, Nova Grace. It's it's
- 2:40Speaker 2: hard to believe that she's out of Nova's life. I mean,
- 2:45Speaker 2: tell me about her. I understand she was a very,
- 2:49Speaker 2: very loving mother.
- 2:50Speaker 7: Yeah, she was a very loving mother. She loved her
- 2:53Speaker 7: daughter very much. She loved her family. She was always
- 2:57Speaker 7: doing things with her daughter. You know, she was always
- 3:01Speaker 7: trying to strive to do better in life. So she's
- 3:06Speaker 7: she's she's a wonderful person, and I just want.
- 3:10Speaker 8: Her back home.
- 3:10Speaker 2: What has it been like, George without her?
- 3:14Speaker 7: Miserable. I can't sleep, I can't think right. It's hard
- 3:18Speaker 7: to work. I got other kids I got to take
- 3:21Speaker 7: care of. It's just been very stressful. It's every parent's
- 3:25Speaker 7: worst nightmare.
- 3:25Speaker 2: Brittany is Wala's stepmother. Brittany, thank you for being with us.
- 3:30Speaker 2: What has it been like for you guys trying to
- 3:33Speaker 2: move forward? You've got Nova Grace that doesn't have her mother.
- 3:37Speaker 2: You're missing Layla. What has that been like since she
- 3:41Speaker 2: went missing?
- 3:41Speaker 4: It's been really difficult, especially on all of us. It
- 3:46Speaker 4: definitely impacted us in many different ways, especially with having
- 3:51Speaker 4: to take on a little girl that is definitely missing
- 3:56Speaker 4: her mom and needs her need to be met, or
- 4:00Speaker 4: that little girl she needs all the extra TLC that
- 4:02Speaker 4: she condentually get and we can all as a whole,
- 4:07Speaker 4: blended family give her the best life that we could
- 4:10Speaker 4: possibly give her at this time. I mean, we've learned
- 4:14Speaker 4: during this unexpected tragedy that we've been faced with. Life
- 4:17Speaker 4: doesn't stop. Life keeps going whether we want it to
- 4:21Speaker 4: or not. And we still have to pick up all
- 4:25Speaker 4: the pieces, and there's still a lot of work that
- 4:27Speaker 4: has to get done, and we just keep holding on
- 4:31Speaker 4: to the little bit of hope that she is in
- 4:33Speaker 4: fact still out there.
- 4:35Speaker 2: You said something very striking, Brittany. I remember when my
- 4:39Speaker 2: fiance was murdered. I felt like the whole world had
- 4:42Speaker 2: just stopped. And then I look back and was stunned
- 4:45Speaker 2: to say that the world just kept turning. I was
- 4:49Speaker 2: the only one that stopped. It feels like everything froze
- 4:52Speaker 2: in time. George, what do you tell Nova Grace about
- 4:56Speaker 2: her mom? What does she ask?
- 5:00Speaker 7: She just basically, I guess, where's mommy, where's mommy? Where's mommy?
- 5:05Speaker 4: Looking not my mom?
- 5:07Speaker 9: Yeah, she doesn't really know. She was she was really young,
- 5:11Speaker 9: really young at the time we're talking to you, or
- 5:14Speaker 9: so she's was didn't really know much at that time.
- 5:18Speaker 4: But she is starting to question where her mom is
- 5:21Speaker 4: and in fact, do I have a mom? You know,
- 5:24Speaker 4: she'll see cartoons, she'll watch other kids call mom, dad whatnot,
- 5:31Speaker 4: you know, and here she is wondering where's my mom?
- 5:36Speaker 4: So she is starting to ask those questions, where where
- 5:39Speaker 4: is my mom? And of course we get stumps, all
- 5:43Speaker 4: of us too, and we try to you know, rechange
- 5:48Speaker 4: you know, the topic, and show her her face and
- 5:52Speaker 4: show great pictures of Leila and Nova together so she
- 5:57Speaker 4: can at least see the good times that they did
- 6:00Speaker 4: have together and just hope that she can have more.
- 6:03Speaker 2: Brittany, you just broke my heart to think of baby
- 6:08Speaker 2: Nova Grace saying do I even have a mom? Do
- 6:12Speaker 2: I have a mom? What did you do when she
- 6:16Speaker 2: said that?
- 6:17Speaker 4: When she just started talking about mom, I just sat
- 6:22Speaker 4: right back, all my tears and she's say, oh, you know,
- 6:26Speaker 4: you'll see mommy soon, and just try to redirect her
- 6:30Speaker 4: into a different topic or do something different, just to
- 6:35Speaker 4: kind of get that off the topic, because I honestly
- 6:39Speaker 4: don't know what to even say at this point. We
- 6:41Speaker 4: could say so much and we're going to run out
- 6:45Speaker 4: of things to say, and there's going to come a
- 6:46Speaker 4: point in time where what do we.
- 6:49Speaker 2: Say, guys? Uh? The family of a missing woman. Leela
- 6:55Speaker 2: last scene running barefoot from a hotel. I don't want
- 7:02Speaker 2: to put the cart before the horse. Let's start at
- 7:05Speaker 2: the beginning. Listen.
- 7:06Speaker 3: Just a few months after having her daughter, Nova Grace Leyla,
- 7:10Speaker 3: Sentinela loses her grandfather, with whom she was very close.
- 7:13Speaker 3: In the roller coaster of emotions between the joy of
- 7:16Speaker 3: becoming a new mom and the grief of doing so
- 7:18Speaker 3: without her grandfather, Layla leans on Michael Thompson for support.
- 7:22Speaker 3: The too quickly become inseparable, and Layla moves in with
- 7:25Speaker 3: Michael's family in Kingsport, Tennessee.
- 7:28Speaker 2: The grief that she went through when the grandfather died unexpectedly.
- 7:33Speaker 2: To Karen Start joining Me, renowned psychologist joining us out
- 7:36Speaker 2: of Manhattan, Manhattan, Radio trauma expert consultant at Karenstart dot com, Karen,
- 7:42Speaker 2: you never know how the loss of that father figure
- 7:45Speaker 2: or grandfather figure will affect you the rest of your life.
- 7:50Speaker 2: And for Leila, the loss of her grandfather was devastating.
- 7:54Speaker 2: It was a real turning point in her life. I
- 7:56Speaker 2: have no.
- 7:57Speaker 10: Doubt, Nanti, that she was feeling that she she would
- 8:00Speaker 10: be able to share her daughter with him. She was
- 8:03Speaker 10: very very close to him and get them in many forms,
- 8:06Speaker 10: as you know, and in this case, with somebody so close,
- 8:10Speaker 10: it could have led to devastation. Here she is, she's
- 8:13Speaker 10: so confused. She loves her daughter and is excited, but
- 8:16Speaker 10: a tremendous loss and trauma when it came to her grandfather.
- 8:21Speaker 2: And you know, very often we don't understand why people
- 8:25Speaker 2: do the things they do when they're functioning with immense grief.
- 8:32Speaker 2: How did the death of the grandfather affect her.
- 8:35Speaker 4: George really really bad?
- 8:37Speaker 7: Uh, she wasn't really talking to nobody, wasn't eating right,
- 8:42Speaker 7: just crying, constantly, crying every day.
- 8:45Speaker 8: I've tried to hug her holder and love her.
- 8:49Speaker 4: She just didn't want to be bothered.
- 8:50Speaker 11: Really, we were.
- 8:52Speaker 4: Lucky enough to have her present when she found out
- 8:56Speaker 4: that her grandfather passed away. She was actually a majury
- 9:00Speaker 4: taking her family vacation with Nova, her mom and the
- 9:04Speaker 4: mom's boyfriend. And I want to say we were more
- 9:08Speaker 4: fortunate enough to be there through that traumatic time in
- 9:13Speaker 4: her life as a whole. And yes, she was very
- 9:17Speaker 4: devastated over the loss of her grandfather. Absolutely.
- 9:21Speaker 2: And you know, Karen, start with me, psychologist, you think
- 9:24Speaker 2: that someone it would be traumatized when they lose their
- 9:27Speaker 2: mom or their dad, which they are typically, But I
- 9:31Speaker 2: can identify that when I lost my grandmother, my mother's
- 9:35Speaker 2: mother who raised us, Lucy that I then named my
- 9:38Speaker 2: daughter after my grandmother raised us while my mom worked,
- 9:42Speaker 2: and we were extremely extremely close. So a lot of
- 9:46Speaker 2: people can't relate to someone falling apart when they lose
- 9:50Speaker 2: a grandparent, right, but for many of us, it can
- 9:54Speaker 2: be devastating.
- 9:55Speaker 10: Without a doubt, this is sort of a father figure
- 9:58Speaker 10: for her. Even though she had her dad and loves
- 10:00Speaker 10: her dad, she was extremely close to her grandfather, And
- 10:05Speaker 10: so you behavior that you have after a loss like that, Nancy,
- 10:09Speaker 10: anything is possible because you're in trauma. You're really feeling
- 10:15Speaker 10: extreme PTSD sometimes where you can't get over the event
- 10:20Speaker 10: and you can't get over the lost chap to come
- 10:22Speaker 10: to terms with it.
- 10:23Speaker 2: It also makes me think, of course, I'm just an
- 10:25Speaker 2: armchair psychologist. Don't like you, Karen start, but it makes
- 10:28Speaker 2: me wonder if that's not why she then got so
- 10:32Speaker 2: attached to the boyfriend Michael Thompson. Listen.
- 10:36Speaker 12: On Friday, June twenty third, Leayla gets in an argument
- 10:39Speaker 12: with her boyfriend Michael Thompson, and while the pair are
- 10:41Speaker 12: usually attached to the hip, Leayla takes off, leaving most
- 10:44Speaker 12: of her belongings, including the couple's shared phone behind. Layla
- 10:48Speaker 12: stays with several friends, but is not in contact with
- 10:51Speaker 12: family without her phone.
- 10:53Speaker 2: Oh my stars, this to me that starts the dominoes
- 10:58Speaker 2: falling when she leaves the boyfriend's place without a cell phone. Okay,
- 11:04Speaker 2: let me understand this, Brittany Zeidler. They were sharing one account.
- 11:08Speaker 4: Yes, they were working off of one working phone. The
- 11:12Speaker 4: other phone had a Wi Fi connected phone, so that
- 11:15Speaker 4: was when they were able to get a hold of
- 11:17Speaker 4: one another. Leila would stay behind, Michael would go run
- 11:20Speaker 4: his errands, and the sleep with one phone on the
- 11:25Speaker 4: one account for many months.
- 11:27Speaker 2: So those two were sharing one phone. Then that phone disappears.
- 11:34Speaker 2: That right there marks for me the beginning of a timeline.
- 11:38Speaker 2: Why because nobody can be in touch with her. Rick
- 11:42Speaker 2: Schaeffer joining me, former FBI supervisory special agent. I mean,
- 11:47Speaker 2: in this day and age, Rick, your cell phone, I mean,
- 11:52Speaker 2: let's talk about the Alex Murdad case. For peace sake,
- 11:55Speaker 2: Murdod charged and the double murder of his wife and son,
- 11:58Speaker 2: Maggie and Paul, the digital footprint, the cell phone data
- 12:02Speaker 2: of the NAV system in his vehicle told a story.
- 12:06Speaker 2: I mean, as far as I was concerned, you put
- 12:09Speaker 2: that one digital analyst on the stand case closed because
- 12:14Speaker 2: it places murder like at the scene of the double murder.
- 12:18Speaker 2: At the time of the double murder, you hear his
- 12:21Speaker 2: voice in the background of a video taken and then
- 12:24Speaker 2: with the nav system you see what time he leaves
- 12:26Speaker 2: goes hies out at his grandmother's thirty minutes away. You
- 12:29Speaker 2: can even see where he slows down. Let's the window down. Yes,
- 12:33Speaker 2: you can tell that from a nav system and throws Maggie,
- 12:36Speaker 2: his now dead wife's phone out the window and then
- 12:39Speaker 2: takes off. You can tell all that from modern digital science.
- 12:46Speaker 2: So when you don't have a phone that greatly greatly
- 12:52Speaker 2: impedes a criminal investigation, absolutely.
- 12:55Speaker 8: Or absolutely correct. Not only are you going to be
- 12:58Speaker 8: able to determine where that phone is, but who's in
- 13:02Speaker 8: possession of it at time, not only from the cell
- 13:05Speaker 8: tower it's painting off, but any metadata that can be
- 13:09Speaker 8: extracted from photos or text or anything.
- 13:12Speaker 10: Of that nature.
- 13:12Speaker 8: But it looks like the police department has done everything
- 13:15Speaker 8: they can from a cell phone data collection standpoint, looking
- 13:21Speaker 8: at cameras, any digital technology that would help track or whereabouts,
- 13:26Speaker 8: and the reality of it is is she's clearly vanished,
- 13:29Speaker 8: and that's a very difficult thing to do in today's
- 13:34Speaker 8: environment out there where everything is digitally captured.
- 13:57Speaker 3: Leila is last seen in an open field before seemingly
- 14:00Speaker 3: vanishing into thin air. Now her family is looking for
- 14:04Speaker 3: answers as to the whereabouts of the young Tennessee momus.
- 14:15Speaker 2: And where is Leila after a sick money grab where
- 14:25Speaker 2: the family gets threatening ransom texts threatening to chop Lila
- 14:30Speaker 2: into bits if money isn't forked over. This during the
- 14:35Speaker 2: search for the missing mom As it goes on, we
- 14:39Speaker 2: were just describing how Leila and the boyfriend that she
- 14:45Speaker 2: suddenly moves into after the death of her grandfather have
- 14:49Speaker 2: an argument. They have an argument, she takes off without
- 14:55Speaker 2: a cell phone.
- 14:57Speaker 13: Then what happens Saturday morning? Michael, since Jennifer sendsanello a
- 15:01Speaker 13: message on Layla's Facebook profile, Jennifer is immediately worried. It's
- 15:06Speaker 13: unusual that Michael wouldn't know where Layla is. Michael says
- 15:09Speaker 13: he hasn't seen Layla in more than twenty four hours,
- 15:12Speaker 13: Jennifer spent several hours trying to track Layla down. Layla
- 15:16Speaker 13: isn't hospitalized anywhere. Finally, Jennifer's niece gets word from a
- 15:20Speaker 13: mutual friend that Layla spent the night at his house
- 15:23Speaker 13: and was okay when she left.
- 15:24Speaker 2: Okay, so there. Even after she takes off without a
- 15:28Speaker 2: cell phone, which destroys everybody because they can't get in
- 15:32Speaker 2: touch with her, we find out she's at a friend's house. Okay,
- 15:37Speaker 2: everything is okay. But finally we actually hear from Leelah herself.
- 15:44Speaker 3: Sunday morning, Jennifer Sonanela wakes up to another Facebook message,
- 15:48Speaker 3: this time from Layla. Laylah says she's okay and doing fine,
- 15:52Speaker 3: much to her mother's relief. Jennifer has a few questions,
- 15:55Speaker 3: but when Layla is vague, Jennifer assumes it's because Layla
- 15:58Speaker 3: knows Michael can access the count she doesn't want him
- 16:01Speaker 3: to know where she is. Leyla reminds her mom that
- 16:03Speaker 3: she isn't carrying a phone, but she'll do her best
- 16:06Speaker 3: to check in as much as possible. Jennifer's niece places
- 16:09Speaker 3: Leila out of friends again, confirming Layla borrowed their phone
- 16:12Speaker 3: to message her mom.
- 16:13Speaker 2: Okay, now we have a genuine lead. I was suspicious
- 16:18Speaker 2: about those messages because they didn't sound like Leela, and
- 16:23Speaker 2: I don't have to talk about Gabby Petito, who went
- 16:26Speaker 2: on a cross country trip with fiance Brian Laundry. He
- 16:31Speaker 2: murdered her and was using her phone and her Fortransit
- 16:35Speaker 2: and her credit cards and her money, and was texting
- 16:39Speaker 2: odd texts. They wouldn't seem odd, probably to you or
- 16:42Speaker 2: to me, but to the family that was getting them,
- 16:47Speaker 2: they knew that wasn't Gabby. For instance, when she asked
- 16:50Speaker 2: about her grandfather, she said, in my case, well how's
- 16:54Speaker 2: Walter Malcolm and Grace Senior. She would never have said that.
- 16:58Speaker 2: She would be saying, how's granddaddy? So they knew something
- 17:01Speaker 2: was wrong. Well, they were right. It wasn't her texting.
- 17:04Speaker 2: It was Brian Laundry trying to give the appearance that
- 17:06Speaker 2: Gabby was still alive. However, in this case, there was
- 17:10Speaker 2: another reason that Leela was not being forthcoming in her
- 17:14Speaker 2: text to Britney Zeitler, her stepmom, and George Emmett, her
- 17:19Speaker 2: father to Brittany, apparently because they shared the same cell phone.
- 17:25Speaker 2: And we had this occur recently in the case of
- 17:30Speaker 2: glam yoga instructor Kaitlyn Armstrong, who murdered her boyfriend, Colin
- 17:36Speaker 2: Strickland's former girlfriend out of a fit of jealousy. She
- 17:42Speaker 2: the yoga instructor, was sharing an account with Colin Strickland,
- 17:45Speaker 2: the boyfriend, so when he was texting the victim Maureen,
- 17:50Speaker 2: she could see it all. She could see it all.
- 17:53Speaker 2: It pop right up on her iPad, right, So here
- 17:57Speaker 2: do you believe that was Leila messaging but that she
- 18:03Speaker 2: was intentionally being vague because she shared that account with
- 18:07Speaker 2: the boyfriend that she just walked down on. Yes.
- 18:10Speaker 4: Absolutely, we really did think that it was Leela for
- 18:14Speaker 4: the moment. So we you know, we're like, Okay, maybe
- 18:18Speaker 4: she doesn't want to know where she is at. He
- 18:22Speaker 4: wants to stay away from her vice versa. So we
- 18:26Speaker 4: just let it be at that moment in time. But
- 18:29Speaker 4: when we didn't hear from her voice, we started to question.
- 18:34Speaker 2: You know what about it, George, When you found out
- 18:37Speaker 2: about that Facebook message I'm fine, I'm at so and
- 18:41Speaker 2: so friend and then that was corroborated by someone else. Yes,
- 18:46Speaker 2: that's where she has Everything's fine. At that point, you
- 18:50Speaker 2: were not concerned, is that right? Yeah?
- 18:52Speaker 14: At that point, I thought maybe she did get an
- 18:57Speaker 14: argument with them and joh I didn't want to get
- 18:59Speaker 14: away from them at first, but then when I tried
- 19:02Speaker 14: to reach out to her and didn't get a response back,
- 19:05Speaker 14: that's when I started getting a little nervous.
- 19:08Speaker 2: The case moves forward. Now it's Monday morning. Monday morning,
- 19:12Speaker 2: Michael Thompson is becoming more insistent that he can't find Layla,
- 19:16Speaker 2: claiming she asked him to pick her up from a
- 19:18Speaker 2: friend's house but wasn't there when he arrived. Jennifer still
- 19:22Speaker 2: believes her daughter is avoiding Michael and doesn't want to
- 19:24Speaker 2: tip him off to where she is.
- 19:26Speaker 5: Michael then reaches out to Layla's dad, George Emmett, making
- 19:30Speaker 5: him intensely worried.
- 19:31Speaker 2: Okay, right there, when did you become concerned George? That
- 19:39Speaker 2: something was a mess.
- 19:41Speaker 9: When I texted her and I didn't get no response
- 19:43Speaker 9: the next day, that's when.
- 19:46Speaker 4: I was really worried because that's not like my daughter.
- 19:49Speaker 7: She picks up for me and I'm no matter what.
- 19:53Speaker 7: So that's when I really got worried and decided I
- 19:57Speaker 7: was going to call and make a police report on
- 19:59Speaker 7: my you.
- 20:00Speaker 2: Know, I want to talk about what you just said.
- 20:02Speaker 2: George joining me is Leila's father, George and stepmom. Brittany
- 20:08Speaker 2: joining me now is a renowned defense attorney, Ben Powers.
- 20:13Speaker 2: You can find them at legal Powers Online. Ben. Thank
- 20:17Speaker 2: you for being with us. Ben. It's called routine evidence,
- 20:20Speaker 2: and I don't like that description because it sounds like
- 20:24Speaker 2: you're talking about the typical, run of the mill, standard evidence.
- 20:28Speaker 2: But what it means is evidence of someone's routine.
- 20:32Speaker 7: Right.
- 20:33Speaker 2: A routine a routine that you unintentionally carry out or
- 20:38Speaker 2: repeat every day. I do the same thing every single
- 20:43Speaker 2: morning in an effort to get my children to school,
- 20:46Speaker 2: take care of my mother who lives with us, take
- 20:48Speaker 2: care of a multitude of pets before I can start
- 20:52Speaker 2: my real job. Right. It's a routine that has been
- 20:56Speaker 2: perfected to save time and accomplish things. Right. That's a routine.
- 21:00Speaker 2: And here, when George Emmitt says she didn't call, a
- 21:03Speaker 2: lot of people will go, hey, I don't hear from
- 21:05Speaker 2: my daughter for two weeks at a time, and that's okay.
- 21:10Speaker 2: I called my mom and dad, say what you want
- 21:13Speaker 2: every single day in the morning and at night, at
- 21:15Speaker 2: a bare of minimum. That has been my routine. I
- 21:19Speaker 2: wanted to hear from them. I wanted to hear their voice.
- 21:21Speaker 2: So routine evidence is very powerful, being powers. I guess
- 21:26Speaker 2: some defense attorneys would argue it means nothing.
- 21:28Speaker 11: I would say routine evidence can be important. But under
- 21:31Speaker 11: these circumstances, the routine was clearly turned upside down and
- 21:35Speaker 11: inside out. You know, she has a big argument with
- 21:38Speaker 11: her boyfriend that they're basically attached at the hill because
- 21:42Speaker 11: of extenuating circumstances, they're relegated to one phone instead of two,
- 21:47Speaker 11: and so she could be separated from him and the phone.
- 21:50Speaker 11: She could be separated from him with the phone. You know,
- 21:53Speaker 11: that type of distinction in the timeline definitely throws the
- 21:56Speaker 11: routine into question and isn't as reliable as maybe under
- 22:01Speaker 11: regular circumstances that the routine usually exists within.
- 22:04Speaker 6: She had to sit on and there was a pink
- 22:07Speaker 6: Teddy Bear exactly like literally the same color and everything,
- 22:14Speaker 6: and he was sitting in a chair and he was
- 22:15Speaker 6: holding her like this right, and I'm like this just
- 22:19Speaker 6: in his lap.
- 22:20Speaker 4: I took the pink Teddy Bear and I put it in.
- 22:26Speaker 2: Teddybears George with me. This is Loayla's dad. Why are
- 22:30Speaker 2: you crying?
- 22:31Speaker 6: Nice?
- 22:32Speaker 9: Devastating that's been too long. It's very stressful on me,
- 22:39Speaker 9: my family. I just it's a lot. That's why I'm crying.
- 22:45Speaker 9: That's every parent's worst nightmare, you know.
- 22:47Speaker 2: And I was thinking, George, after you know, my fiance
- 22:52Speaker 2: was murdered, I never ever thought that I could ever remarry,
- 22:57Speaker 2: that I would ever have children. I thought that was
- 23:00Speaker 2: just a dream that was just over, and it was.
- 23:03Speaker 2: It was for over twenty years. Then suddenly I have
- 23:11Speaker 2: a family. Can I tell you the greatest thing that
- 23:17Speaker 2: happened to me was having the twins. And let me
- 23:21Speaker 2: see those videos in your control room. I mean, this
- 23:25Speaker 2: was the time of Leela's life. She finally has Nova Grace,
- 23:33Speaker 2: just the love of her life, finally happiness, she has
- 23:40Speaker 2: this beautiful baby girl. I mean, I guess most moms
- 23:47Speaker 2: out there would agree that's the best time of your
- 23:51Speaker 2: life when you finally have your children. And to think
- 23:56Speaker 2: she's snatched away from her daughter and now her daughter
- 24:00Speaker 2: George has patures in these videos that's it and says
- 24:05Speaker 2: things like do I even have a mommy? I mean,
- 24:09Speaker 2: I get while you're crying.
- 24:11Speaker 9: George, Yeah, she's all my granddaughter, is all I have
- 24:14Speaker 9: left of my daughter as of now for two years. Oh,
- 24:19Speaker 9: it's really hard and devastate.
- 24:22Speaker 11: I just want to answers.
- 24:25Speaker 4: Hell loove closure.
- 24:26Speaker 2: Guys, we left off, we left off where George is
- 24:31Speaker 2: now becoming extremely worried. Listen.
- 24:34Speaker 12: George calls Jennifer to discuss whether they should report Layla missing.
- 24:37Speaker 12: Extremely concerned after his last conversation with Michael based on
- 24:41Speaker 12: her last text conversation with Laila, Jennifer doesn't want to
- 24:44Speaker 12: jump the gun. The parents decide to report Layla missing
- 24:47Speaker 12: the next morning, which will be forty eight hours since
- 24:49Speaker 12: Layla's last contact with family. However, George can't shake the
- 24:53Speaker 12: feeling he needs to do something, and after several sleepless hours,
- 24:57Speaker 12: makes an official report that Laylah Santonello is missing in
- 25:00Speaker 12: the early morning hours of June twenty seventh.
- 25:03Speaker 2: So George, since Michael Thompson, the boyfriend and Layelah had
- 25:07Speaker 2: been so close joined at the hip following her grandfather's death,
- 25:11Speaker 2: When he is starting to ask you, where's Laila, you
- 25:16Speaker 2: know something is really wrong. What prompted you to report
- 25:20Speaker 2: her missing at that time?
- 25:22Speaker 9: Well, when I couldn't get a hold of her and
- 25:25Speaker 9: she didn't respond back to me, I already knew something
- 25:28Speaker 9: was wrong, something, something was not right. So when he
- 25:32Speaker 9: was reaching out to me and sending me text messages
- 25:34Speaker 9: about not being able to find my daughter and everything,
- 25:37Speaker 9: that just made it.
- 25:38Speaker 4: Ten times worse for me.
- 25:39Speaker 7: I mean I went right out there right away.
- 25:43Speaker 9: We hired a private detective. We have a private detective
- 25:46Speaker 9: that's been on the case since day one.
- 25:51Speaker 4: We have a private detective.
- 25:52Speaker 9: We've been We've drove from boys you Jorgey to Tennessee
- 25:57Speaker 9: out several I can't many times already on behalf of
- 26:01Speaker 9: my daughter.
- 26:02Speaker 2: Then the searches on was George reports her missing and
- 26:06Speaker 2: finally a lead listen.
- 26:09Speaker 13: Kingsport Police immediately began investigating, speaking with Michael Thompson and
- 26:13Speaker 13: his family around two am June twenty seventh. By the
- 26:16Speaker 13: end of the day, investigators have a lead. Layla checked
- 26:20Speaker 13: into the Americourt Hotel for the night of June twenty sixth.
- 26:23Speaker 13: Employees and other guests say Lala seemed paranoid. Laila is
- 26:27Speaker 13: caught on CCTV knocking on doors to look for someone.
- 26:31Speaker 2: Join me now, a very special guest. Rebecca McNairy, reporter
- 26:35Speaker 2: writer at Kingston Time News. Rebecca, thank you so much
- 26:39Speaker 2: for being with us. So who was she looking for?
- 26:43Speaker 2: Why are people there at the hotel describing her as
- 26:48Speaker 2: afraid of something?
- 26:49Speaker 14: You know?
- 26:50Speaker 15: Going based off the facts that we have received from
- 26:53Speaker 15: the Kingsport Police Department and other local authorities, we have
- 26:58Speaker 15: not been sure of who specifically she was looking for.
- 27:02Speaker 15: We know that witnesses testified that she was acting paranoid
- 27:07Speaker 15: and looking for something, but the Kingsport Police Department has
- 27:11Speaker 15: not released any specific details regarding that certain matter.
- 27:15Speaker 2: You know, Rebecca McNary, you're so right speaking of a
- 27:19Speaker 2: witness perceived good samaritan, this is what we learned. Please
- 27:24Speaker 2: let me help you. I have a room, My mom,
- 27:27Speaker 2: my son are inside. You can sit down. I will
- 27:30Speaker 2: talk to you. How would do any tag him to
- 27:31Speaker 2: help you?
- 27:32Speaker 10: She froze for a moment, full a breath, and he
- 27:35Speaker 10: was like, and she looked at my room, She looked
- 27:38Speaker 10: at me, and then she said no, I can't and.
- 27:40Speaker 4: She just ran out and through the part camat and
- 27:43Speaker 4: that was a life I saw her.
- 27:44Speaker 2: Is that right, Rebecca mnary? She this good Samarita said, look,
- 27:49Speaker 2: what's wrong? Who are you looking for? Why are you afraid?
- 27:53Speaker 2: And apparently Lila goes, no, no, I can't talk to
- 27:58Speaker 2: you about it. It takes off running.
- 27:59Speaker 15: Yeah, that is several witnesses accounts. I believe the police
- 28:04Speaker 15: department and local authorities have told me that, but again
- 28:09Speaker 15: I can't comment on that specifically because the police department
- 28:13Speaker 15: has not come forward with that specific information.
- 28:17Speaker 2: Where is a mom of one little nova grace we're
- 28:21Speaker 2: talking about Layela? Do we finally have a bead or
- 28:25Speaker 2: where she may be? And now is this a break? Listen?
- 28:29Speaker 12: As police tried to determine Layla's next move, employees at
- 28:32Speaker 12: the nearby warehouse provide another lead. Around six or fifteen
- 28:35Speaker 12: in the morning, Layla asks if she can bump a cigarette.
- 28:38Speaker 12: None of the men have smokes on them. Layla thanks
- 28:40Speaker 12: them anyway and walks away. The men say Layla was
- 28:42Speaker 12: perfectly polite and seemed coherent. Layla did appear slightly disheveled
- 28:47Speaker 12: with messy hair and grass and leaves on her back,
- 28:50Speaker 12: like she maybe had laid down in the field.
- 28:52Speaker 2: Now, how does a marble slab creamery fit into this
- 28:58Speaker 2: search for Laylah? We all know what that is very
- 29:01Speaker 2: popular ice cream place a shop. Listen.
- 29:04Speaker 5: An employee at a nearby ice cream shop, the Marble
- 29:07Speaker 5: Slab says a blonde woman came into the store around
- 29:10Speaker 5: noon on the twenty seventh, with no shoes on.
- 29:13Speaker 2: She says.
- 29:14Speaker 5: The woman was very disheveled, wearing a white T shirt
- 29:17Speaker 5: and black luggings. The woman seems somewhat incoherent and made
- 29:20Speaker 5: a comment about her husband wanting to kill her before
- 29:23Speaker 5: asking to borrow the employee's phone. The woman walked back
- 29:27Speaker 5: out of the store, saying she wanted to head to
- 29:29Speaker 5: a nearby five below to buy shoes.
- 29:31Speaker 2: When shown a photo of.
- 29:32Speaker 5: Leila, the employee is convinced that's the woman she spoke to.
- 29:36Speaker 2: Okay, we've all heard attacks on eyewitnesses, and in this
- 29:40Speaker 2: particular case, we hit a dead end.
- 29:44Speaker 13: Kingsport police intensely focused on the marble slab lead, checking
- 29:47Speaker 13: with several more nearby establishments. Authorities believe they are zeroing
- 29:51Speaker 13: in on Layla, but CCTV and phone records eventually proved
- 29:55Speaker 13: the employee was mistaken about the woman's identity. Officers tracked
- 29:59Speaker 13: the woman down, who confirms it was her in the
- 30:01Speaker 13: ice cream shop that afternoon, not Leila. Santanello Ah Crime
- 30:12Speaker 13: Stories with Nancy Grace.
- 30:18Speaker 2: Joining me, investigative reporter and writer at the Kingsport time
- 30:23Speaker 2: needs Rebecca McNairy, Rebecca, that's devastating to get an eyewitness tip.
- 30:31Speaker 2: The woman is absolutely convinced this is Leelah that comes
- 30:35Speaker 2: into Marble Slab Creamery and she's disproved. Tell me what happened.
- 30:40Speaker 2: The woman was so convinced it was Leilah.
- 30:42Speaker 15: Yeah, according to report, she was convinced that she had
- 30:46Speaker 15: seen Layla. Again, the Kingsport Police investigated and that was
- 30:51Speaker 15: indeed not the case based off the records and the
- 30:54Speaker 15: surveillance footage that they had. But again, something like that
- 30:58Speaker 15: where you think that you have a lead and then
- 31:01Speaker 15: instead is definitely devastating for the family that's trying to
- 31:04Speaker 15: bring Leila home.
- 31:05Speaker 2: To Ben Powers joining US criminal defense attorney, Ben It's
- 31:10Speaker 2: also bad for an investigation, a potential trial in the future,
- 31:14Speaker 2: because when you get a lead, an eyewitness lead, and
- 31:17Speaker 2: the woman is absolutely convinced she sees Layelah right later on,
- 31:23Speaker 2: a defense attorney can say, see, she saw Layelah at
- 31:27Speaker 2: this time on this date, and my client on trial
- 31:33Speaker 2: now was here in another state or whatever fill in
- 31:36Speaker 2: the blank. When you try, when you try a case,
- 31:42Speaker 2: you have to go down every avenue to get to
- 31:45Speaker 2: the truth. You can't leave anything out. But when you
- 31:48Speaker 2: go down those avenues, for instance, if you name a
- 31:50Speaker 2: person of interest or suspect too soon it turns out
- 31:52Speaker 2: to be wrong, that's a field day for the defense,
- 31:56Speaker 2: just like a false tip.
- 31:57Speaker 11: Yeah, I would agree. I think the significance of the
- 32:00Speaker 11: witness being mistaken as it shows that police went down
- 32:03Speaker 11: the wrong thread. You know, it ultimately led to a
- 32:08Speaker 11: Tom commitment from the investigation that ended with a dead
- 32:11Speaker 11: end in the investigation. So then they've got to go
- 32:14Speaker 11: back and figure out what direction do they take the investigation.
- 32:17Speaker 11: And so now that tim, that effort, that dedication has
- 32:20Speaker 11: been spent on something that wasn't fruitful. Oh yeah, and
- 32:24Speaker 11: something like this. You know, Tom is the enemy of
- 32:27Speaker 11: an investigation. The longer time goes on, the harder the
- 32:30Speaker 11: investigation gets.
- 32:32Speaker 12: Two weeks after Layla's disappearance, both mother and stepmother start
- 32:36Speaker 12: getting cash apt requests from Layla's account, but the message
- 32:39Speaker 12: is attached to the requests send chills down their spines.
- 32:43Speaker 12: They're keeping me hostage. I owe someone fifteen minutes or
- 32:47Speaker 12: you'll find her In pieces and the acronym TWLMG panics.
- 32:53Speaker 12: The women send various amounts of money with messages like
- 32:56Speaker 12: are you okay and call me in the hopes that
- 32:59Speaker 12: Laila would see them, also reporting the activity to Believes.
- 33:03Speaker 2: Oh my Stars, sick ransom text to Leilah's family, George Emmitt,
- 33:09Speaker 2: what happened.
- 33:10Speaker 9: At that point? We got really scared, We got really nervous,
- 33:14Speaker 9: and we were willing to do whatever it took to
- 33:18Speaker 9: try to get a hold of her.
- 33:19Speaker 2: At that point. I mean, in all of her history,
- 33:22Speaker 2: had Leyela ever sent you a text or an email
- 33:25Speaker 2: like that.
- 33:25Speaker 9: Never? Never, So that's why we were very discerned and
- 33:30Speaker 9: worried that somebody might.
- 33:31Speaker 2: Actually threatened to chop her up.
- 33:34Speaker 4: Yes, correct, Yes, you know.
- 33:35Speaker 2: It's just actually making my stomach hurt. After all you
- 33:39Speaker 2: had been through, and someone is threatening to chop her
- 33:43Speaker 2: up unless they get money. Look, we're showing you the
- 33:48Speaker 2: sick ransom text. I mean, Brittany, what went through your
- 33:52Speaker 2: mind when you get this?
- 33:54Speaker 4: I was in utter shock, and of course I reached
- 33:57Speaker 4: out to Jennifer. I reached out To's boyfriend Michael, and
- 34:02Speaker 4: while I am on the phone with Michael, I'm like,
- 34:06Speaker 4: are you getting any cash up requests? Because I'm getting
- 34:10Speaker 4: some right now, saying for abbreviations, and I gave him,
- 34:15Speaker 4: you know, TWMLG and he goes, oh, well, my brother says,
- 34:20Speaker 4: they won't let me go or they will let me go.
- 34:22Speaker 4: And I'm not processing everything that's going on at that moment.
- 34:26Speaker 4: I'm just thinking, oh my god, how do we do this?
- 34:29Speaker 4: I want to hear her voice. I want to know
- 34:31Speaker 4: that she is in fact, okay, do they really have her?
- 34:34Speaker 4: So there were so many things just running through my
- 34:37Speaker 4: mind as well as George's, and we were just dumbfounded, like,
- 34:41Speaker 4: oh my, what do we do? Do we send all
- 34:43Speaker 4: this money? Do we I dragged it out as much
- 34:46Speaker 4: as I possibly could to be able to get as
- 34:49Speaker 4: much information as I possibly can, and Jennifer and I
- 34:52Speaker 4: were asking questions like, you know, what's your youngest brother's name,
- 34:56Speaker 4: what's your pop secret pass code? Only things that Layla
- 35:00Speaker 4: can answer, and they were left and answered.
- 35:02Speaker 2: So how did he the boyfriend know what t w
- 35:06Speaker 2: l MG means. It's not like he's I DK. I
- 35:09Speaker 2: don't know. I had to figure out what does t
- 35:12Speaker 2: w l MG mean? And he knew it off the
- 35:14Speaker 2: tip of.
- 35:15Speaker 4: His tongue, That's what I was saying, And like I,
- 35:17Speaker 4: of course wasn't processing it at that exact moment. But
- 35:21Speaker 4: once I had a moment to process everything on what
- 35:23Speaker 4: was going on and rereading all of the messages and
- 35:27Speaker 4: everything that I had sending it to the investigators, I
- 35:30Speaker 4: was just like, wow, Like, I know, I got a
- 35:34Speaker 4: lot going on, but how do you know exactly what
- 35:38Speaker 4: that meant? In an instance? I was just I was roud.
- 35:42Speaker 2: I was roud. This is what Leila's mother has to
- 35:46Speaker 2: say about that ransom text.
- 35:48Speaker 16: It's one thing for a stranger to try and capitalize
- 35:53Speaker 16: on something like that the way that they that he did.
- 35:57Speaker 16: It's a whole other thing when it's someone.
- 35:59Speaker 2: That you care about. From our friends at News five
- 36:01Speaker 2: wcy B to Rebecca McNary joining US reporter Kingsport Time News,
- 36:09Speaker 2: who is he who sent the ransom text threatening to
- 36:13Speaker 2: talk Lala into bits?
- 36:15Speaker 15: Yeah, so police later found out during their investigation of
- 36:18Speaker 15: that was her boyfriend at the time, Michael Thompson, who
- 36:22Speaker 15: was sending those pretty alarming messages to Leyla's family about
- 36:25Speaker 15: two weeks after she was reported missing. He was later
- 36:30Speaker 15: indicted by a grand jury here in Sulliwyn County on
- 36:33Speaker 15: financial exploitation, credit card fraud, and identity theft.
- 36:38Speaker 13: Thompson otherwise cooperates with the investigation, and neither family nor
- 36:42Speaker 13: cops believe Thompson had anything to do with Layla's disappearance,
- 36:46Speaker 13: but obviously tried to take advantage of this situation. Jennifer
- 36:49Speaker 13: Santanello claims Thompson has taken a polygraph test, but the
- 36:53Speaker 13: results were inconclusive because he was not sober for the
- 36:56Speaker 13: five hour exam.
- 36:57Speaker 2: George, jam And, I want to confirm with you. Our
- 37:00Speaker 2: sources have told us that you do not believe Thompson
- 37:04Speaker 2: had anything to do with Layla's disappearance.
- 37:07Speaker 7: No, I don't believe. Well, they cleared them first. First
- 37:11Speaker 7: they cleared them.
- 37:12Speaker 4: How do you feel.
- 37:15Speaker 9: I feel he might know something or know some people
- 37:18Speaker 9: that could be involved are whereabouts.
- 37:21Speaker 7: That is possible, but he's not saying nothing for nobody.
- 37:26Speaker 2: So guys, what about the search now.
- 37:29Speaker 3: In addition to grid searches near the America Court Hotel,
- 37:32Speaker 3: Kingsport PD have searched the home Layla shared with Michael
- 37:35Speaker 3: Thompson and served at least thirty more search warrants. Officers
- 37:38Speaker 3: have also issued at least twenty five subpoenas. Officers remain
- 37:42Speaker 3: tight lipped about their most current leads to protect the investigation,
- 37:45Speaker 3: but have searched several other locations in addition to the field,
- 37:48Speaker 3: totaling six ground searches.
- 37:50Speaker 2: To Rebecca McNary joining us from Kingsport, Time News tell
- 37:55Speaker 2: me about the search as it stands right now and
- 37:58Speaker 2: the reward.
- 37:59Speaker 15: I know that the search the ground searches were subsided
- 38:04Speaker 15: a little bit during the colder winter months, but that
- 38:06Speaker 15: those are expected to pick up again here in the
- 38:10Speaker 15: near future. As far as any kind of reward money,
- 38:15Speaker 15: I'm not sure. I believe the last number that I
- 38:18Speaker 15: heard was around seven grand that her family was offering
- 38:21Speaker 15: do whoever had information about her whereabouts and disappearance.
- 38:25Speaker 2: To George and Brittany. This case has taken so many
- 38:29Speaker 2: twists and turns, false reports of false siding that seems
- 38:34Speaker 2: so credible. The ransom text just cold blooded ransom text
- 38:41Speaker 2: money grab. So where are we left? In my mind,
- 38:45Speaker 2: we're left with the warehouse workers that didn't have a
- 38:49Speaker 2: cigarette seeing her walk off into a field. That's where
- 38:54Speaker 2: we are.
- 38:55Speaker 9: What about it, George, That's where we are as of
- 38:59Speaker 9: right now. That's the last known place that she was
- 39:04Speaker 9: actually seen.
- 39:05Speaker 4: So that's all we know is.
- 39:07Speaker 3: Of right now.
- 39:08Speaker 2: What about it, Brittany.
- 39:09Speaker 4: Well, so even though that's all that we have at
- 39:12Speaker 4: this time, we're going to continue to work as hard
- 39:16Speaker 4: as we can to.
- 39:17Speaker 2: Figure out what direction she went.
- 39:20Speaker 4: And I call it the direction of the unknown. Since
- 39:24Speaker 4: it's been two years almost now, and I know, any
- 39:28Speaker 4: type of surveillance footage that we have tried to grab
- 39:32Speaker 4: off of weather cameras or any type of surveillance that
- 39:37Speaker 4: our investigator had tried to pull, I know at this
- 39:42Speaker 4: time it's definitely going to be extremely difficult to be
- 39:46Speaker 4: able to pull. So we're got to just keep on
- 39:51Speaker 4: search in and put ground searches in place to be
- 39:55Speaker 4: able to gather as much resources that we possibly can
- 39:58Speaker 4: from nonprofit organizations that offer out of our dogs, drones, extensive, yes, extensive,
- 40:07Speaker 4: wide varieties of you know, needs for Layela to be
- 40:10Speaker 4: able to be found, since we feel like we're working
- 40:13Speaker 4: next little of nothing at this time.
- 40:16Speaker 2: If you know or think you know anything about the
- 40:19Speaker 2: disappearance of Layelah Santanello, please dial four two three three
- 40:25Speaker 2: four three nine seven eight zero or toll free eight
- 40:30Speaker 2: hundred TB I find eight hundred eight two four three
- 40:35Speaker 2: four sixty three. There is a seven thousand dollars reward
- 40:40Speaker 2: for information in the disappearance of Leyela, and that reward
- 40:45Speaker 2: is growing. We now remember an American hero, Senior Deputy
- 40:51Speaker 2: Christopher Corzilias, Travis County Sheriff, Texas, passed away in the
- 40:57Speaker 2: line of duty, survived by a grieving partner Bethany, mother, Nancy, father, Paul,
- 41:04Speaker 2: stepmom Patty. American hero Senior Deputy Christopher Crasilius, Goodbye friend,