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- 0:00Speaker 1: Okay, so true crime fans buckle up, because today we
- 0:04are diving deep into the dark side of North Carolina
- 0:08serial killers.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Ooh scary, right.
- 0:11Speaker 1: We're going way beyond the headlines though, getting into like
- 0:14what makes these cases tick.
- 0:16Speaker 2: And you know what's so fascinating about serial killers. It's
- 0:18like we always want to say, oh, they're from this
- 0:19one creepy town, you know, But the thing is the
- 0:23things that make these people they're not really from any
- 0:26one place.
- 0:27Speaker 1: It's a bigger picture thing.
- 0:28Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a societal thing, a puzzle totally.
- 0:31Speaker 1: And to solve this puzzle today, we're going to unpack
- 0:34this list of fifteen infamous serial killers. Fifteen yeah, fifteen,
- 0:39all connected to North Carolina. Don't worry, though, We're not
- 0:42just going to read their names. We're going to make
- 0:44them come alive. Oh okay, but just enough. You know,
- 0:46we're not trying to give anybody nightmares here. So to
- 0:49mix things up, we're not going chronologically. Instead, we're going
- 0:51to group these cases by themes. Ooh, like that right,
- 0:54makes it more like a real life detective case, you know.
- 0:57So first up, terror in the fast lane, because honestly,
- 1:00what's scarier than evil just lurking in plain sight.
- 1:03Speaker 2: It's that you never know, like is the guy making
- 1:05your coffee going to exactly?
- 1:08Speaker 1: And for a real life example of that, let's talk
- 1:09about Henry Lewis Wallace. You might know him as the
- 1:12Taco bell strangler.
- 1:13Speaker 2: The guy was.
- 1:13Speaker 1: Literally making tacos while like planning his next kill.
- 1:17Speaker 2: Chilling right, and he mostly targeted women. Women he knew,
- 1:21even like coworkers.
- 1:22Speaker 1: Which makes it even creepier. And one detail that I
- 1:24just cannot shake. He actually strangled a woman right in
- 1:28front of her son. Oh god, right, I mean, how
- 1:30do you even begin to process that level of cruelty.
- 1:33Speaker 2: It really makes you think about the families, Like the
- 1:36victims are one thing, but they're families. The trauma just ripples.
- 1:40Speaker 1: So true. Okay, Moving from the everyday to the great outdoors,
- 1:44you know those places where we're supposed to feel good,
- 1:46at peace, at one with nature, except when you run
- 1:49into someone like Gary Michael Hilton aka the National Forest
- 1:53serial Killer.
- 1:54Speaker 2: Oh yeah, talk about turning a peaceful place into something terrifying.
- 1:58Speaker 1: Right, and his emma the stuff of nightmares, murder and
- 2:02get this decapitation.
- 2:03Speaker 2: Makes you think twice about going for a hike, doesn't it.
- 2:05Speaker 1: You're telling me I'm never going alone again, that's for sure.
- 2:09But as scary as the woods can be, you know
- 2:11what's even more unsettling with that danger in your own home,
- 2:15which brings us to our next theme. When home isn't safe,
- 2:19and honestly, isn't that where we should feel the safest.
- 2:22Speaker 2: It's like the ultimate violation.
- 2:23Speaker 1: You know, absolutely, and few cases illustrate this better than
- 2:27Jeffrey Robert McDonald, the Green Beret killer. We're talking about
- 2:31a decorated US Army officer, a physician, accused of murdering
- 2:35his pregnant wife and two daughters in their home, in
- 2:38their home, McDonald always maintained his innocence, said some hippies
- 2:42broke in and did it, but the evidence told a
- 2:44very different.
- 2:45Speaker 2: Story in the details. Yeah, knife an ice pick.
- 2:49Speaker 1: Just awful, just bone chilling, and he even had all
- 2:51these self inflicted wounds like he was trying to stage
- 2:53the scene.
- 2:54Speaker 2: Wow, did it work.
- 2:56Speaker 1: No, he was found guilty, but that case, it just
- 2:59stays with you. Vitality of it, you know, the betrayal.
- 3:02Speaker 2: Absolutely, speak of betrayal. Let's talk about Frederick Robert Kleinner
- 3:06Junior talk about a family affair gone wrong.
- 3:09Speaker 1: This one's like a lifetime movie or something. Clinner killed
- 3:12multiple members of his girlfriend's family. Can you imagine your
- 3:15own boyfriend?
- 3:16Speaker 2: Jealousy is a powerful drug.
- 3:18Speaker 1: Tell me about it and it gets crazier. The whole
- 3:20thing ends in this insane car chase with a fiery
- 3:23explosion at the end. Took out him, the girlfriend, her
- 3:26two sons.
- 3:27Speaker 2: Wow, talk about collateral damage, right.
- 3:30Speaker 1: And speaking of damage, not all of these killers stayed
- 3:33put in North Carolina?
- 3:35Speaker 2: You mean they traveled for their victims.
- 3:36Speaker 1: They did, And that takes us to our next theme,
- 3:40beyond NCA borders because crime, as they say, doesn't respect
- 3:44state lines.
- 3:45Speaker 2: Yep, some of these guys, their reign of terriages span
- 3:49like the whole country exactly.
- 3:51Speaker 1: Take Danny Rolling, the Gainesville Ripper. Ever heard of him?
- 3:54Speaker 2: Oh yeah, wasn't he the one who like terrorized those
- 3:57college students of Florida?
- 3:58Speaker 1: That's the one. But get the His crimes actually started
- 4:01right here in North Carolina the way really Yep, before
- 4:04he was the Gainesville Ripper, he committed a double homicide
- 4:07in Fayetteville.
- 4:09Speaker 2: Crazy, right, It's insane. It makes you wonder how many
- 4:12other killers are out there just getting started.
- 4:14Speaker 1: It's a scary thought, isn't it?
- 4:15Speaker 2: Like?
- 4:15Speaker 1: Just how many more are out there right now?
- 4:17Speaker 2: It really makes you think. And its way understanding the patterns,
- 4:20the motives, that's so crucial.
- 4:22Speaker 1: Absolutely, So let's talk motives. And for a prime example
- 4:26of pure greed as a motive, we have Samuel Cooper.
- 4:29This guy was like something out of a horror movie.
- 4:32Speaker 2: Cooper's case is just it shows how desperation when you
- 4:35mix that with zero regard for human life, it's terrifying.
- 4:39Speaker 1: So picture this between two thousand and six and two
- 4:41thousand and seven. Cooper kills five, count them five men
- 4:44in North Carolina, five five and his weapon of choice
- 4:48a gun uses during armed robberies.
- 4:50Speaker 2: So he was eliminating witnesses.
- 4:52Speaker 1: Exactly cold and calculated. And speaking of cold, let's talk
- 4:56about Donald pe Wee Gaskins Junior. They didn't call him
- 4:59the meanest man in a America for nothing.
- 5:01Speaker 2: Gaskins was just pure evil the things he did. He
- 5:05confessed to over one hundred murders, though only thirteen were confirmed,
- 5:08only thirteen.
- 5:09Speaker 1: That's still thirteen too many.
- 5:10Speaker 2: You're telling me. And the methods stabbing, shooting, drowning, even poison.
- 5:17He buried some of his victims in shallow graves near
- 5:20his house.
- 5:21Speaker 1: Just awful. The guy was a monster, plain and simple.
- 5:23Sentenced to death, executed in nineteen ninety one. But the
- 5:27stories they live on.
- 5:29Speaker 2: Some things you just can't forget.
- 5:30Speaker 1: You're right about that, And sadly, not every case has
- 5:34a nice neat ending, like the Edgecombe County killer also
- 5:37known as the Seven Bridges killer.
- 5:39Speaker 2: That was still unsolved, right, still.
- 5:40Speaker 1: Unsolved between two thousand and five and two thousand and nine.
- 5:43This guy, whoever he is, killed ten victims. Bodies were
- 5:47found near seven Bridges Road in Rocky Mount.
- 5:49Speaker 2: What's crazy is most of the victims were African American women.
- 5:53Speaker 1: Right, which again makes you think about vulnerability about who
- 5:55these killers target.
- 5:57Speaker 2: It's a sad pattern we see over and over.
- 5:59Speaker 1: It really is. You know, it's not always strangers in
- 6:01the dark or whatever. Sometimes danger wears a friendly face.
- 6:04And for that, let's talk about Nanny DAWs.
- 6:07Speaker 2: Ever heard of her, the Black Widow.
- 6:09Speaker 1: The Black Widow, or the giggling Granny. This lady was something.
- 6:12Speaker 2: Else I've heard about her. She's poisoned, right, like arsenic
- 6:16or something.
- 6:16Speaker 1: Poison was her go to. Between the nineteen twenties and
- 6:19nineteen fifty four, she killed eleven people, husbands, her own mother,
- 6:25two grandsons, sister, even a mother in law.
- 6:28Speaker 2: What is wrong with people?
- 6:29Speaker 1: Seriously? And the motive money life insurance money, to be exact.
- 6:33Speaker 2: So she's profiting off their desks.
- 6:34Speaker 1: Profiting off their deaths. It's just beyond messed up. Okay,
- 6:39moving on, because this is a lot. Let's talk about
- 6:41William Pierce another name for the list, right, and this
- 6:43guy he didn't just stick to one state either. Between
- 6:46nineteen seventy and nineteen seventy one, he killed at least
- 6:49nine people North Carolina, South Carolina.
- 6:53Speaker 2: Georgia, so all over the southeast.
- 6:55Speaker 1: His first victim and Goodwin. She was just eighteen years old,
- 6:58babysitting actually when Pierce broke in, sexually assaulted her, then
- 7:01shot her.
- 7:02Speaker 2: Oh that's horrible.
- 7:03Speaker 1: It gets worse. So get this. He eventually gets caught
- 7:05for robbery totally unrelated, and while they're questioning him about
- 7:08the robbery, he just confesses to the murders. A lucky break, right,
- 7:13Sometimes it's just dumb luck. Now from a spree to
- 7:17something more well targeted, I guess let's talk about Scott
- 7:20Wilson William He terrorized North Carolina for nine years, killed
- 7:25three women, and.
- 7:26Speaker 2: I'm guessing he knew these women.
- 7:27Speaker 1: He did each one. And here's the thing. Each victim
- 7:30was found with these very specific mulations, including a gunshot
- 7:34to the head.
- 7:35Speaker 2: That's how they connected him to the crimes.
- 7:36Speaker 1: Then that and DNA evidence they got him in two
- 7:39thousand and six. Speaking of DNA is amazing, But it
- 7:42doesn't solve everything right.
- 7:44Speaker 2: Sadly not takes time, resources.
- 7:46Speaker 1: Exactly in some cases, just stakehold. But let's move on
- 7:49to Earl Richmond, another one whose crime span state lines.
- 7:54This guy, former military man by the way, killed four
- 7:57people New Jersey and North Carolina people and how long
- 8:00between April and November of nineteen ninety one, So not
- 8:03that long and two of his victims kids.
- 8:06Speaker 2: Ugh, that's just awful.
- 8:08Speaker 1: He got life in prison. But still it makes you think,
- 8:11you know, like, how do we even begin to stop
- 8:13something like this?
- 8:13Speaker 2: That's the question, isn't it if we knew the answer
- 8:15to that?
- 8:16Speaker 1: No, kiddy, it's like where do you even start?
- 8:18Speaker 2: Right? It's the million dollar question, And honestly, it's what
- 8:20keeps people like me up at night?
- 8:22Speaker 1: Do you and me both?
- 8:23Speaker 2: So?
- 8:23Speaker 1: Like, aren't these guys just born evil?
- 8:26Speaker 2: I wish it were that simple. Yeah, but there's no
- 8:29one answer, no crystal ball.
- 8:31Speaker 1: But we can look for patterns, right, like red flags.
- 8:35Speaker 2: Or whatever exactly. And one thing, we see a lot
- 8:37of history of violence, like even as kids.
- 8:40Speaker 1: Yeah, like Wallace Gaskins, Peers, they were all pretty messed
- 8:43up even early.
- 8:44Speaker 2: On, which is why you know, early intervention is so important.
- 8:47Speaker 1: For sure, But what about the guys who like didn't
- 8:49have that, Like what about Samuel Cooper? He seemed pretty calculated,
- 8:52pretty motivated by greed.
- 8:54Speaker 2: Cooper's an interesting case because yeah, he was all about
- 8:57the money. But then you have guys who they just
- 9:00enjoy it.
- 9:00Speaker 1: Okay, See that's what I don't get, Like the pleasure
- 9:03in taking a life is just I don't know, beyond.
- 9:06Speaker 2: Me me neither. And then you have the mental illness factor,
- 9:10which again not an.
- 9:12Speaker 1: Excuse, of course not, but you can't ignore.
- 9:14Speaker 2: It exactly, And we can't forget about the victims in
- 9:16all of this.
- 9:17Speaker 1: So true, So many of these victims were like the
- 9:19most vulnerable women, minorities, people living on the margins.
- 9:24Speaker 2: It makes you wonder about the bigger picture, like, is
- 9:27there something about society that enables this?
- 9:29Speaker 1: That's what I keep coming back to. Poverty, lack of opportunity,
- 9:33even just plain bad luck. Do those things create an
- 9:37environment where, I don't know where evil thrives.
- 9:40Speaker 2: It's a tough question, but it's one we have to ask.
- 9:43Speaker 1: Because if we don't ask these tough questions, how are
- 9:46we supposed to stop it from happening.
- 9:47Speaker 2: Again, that's what this is all about, right, trying to
- 9:49understand so we can hopefully prevent.
- 9:51Speaker 1: Couldn't have set it better myself? Well that's our deep
- 9:55dive for today into the dark side of North Carolina.
- 9:58We hope you found it. I don't knowcinating, maybe even
- 10:01a little terrifying, just a little, but hey, knowledge is power.
- 10:04Right Until next time, keep those lights on and stay
- 10:07safe out there.