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You live in my town, I don't live in yours! · Yo Gavel Gavel! - Court TV Commentary

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it? Yeah, I can't believe Jerry Springer is gonna get mad. I
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can't believe it. Do you want me to go? I want to hear
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it. I mean, we gotta judge Jerry. You gotta judge to judge
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Joe. It's all j It's all Jays on the Joe Javel, Javel,
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Joe Javel Javel. I love it. I'll go first, do it.
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I'll go first. I want to introduce you to two a pair of two
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pairs, two couples, two couples. We have bad judge Jay. We
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have Guy and Doris Burnett. Sounds fake. And Guy and Doris are suing
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John Long and Erica Robinson. Okay, John Long and Erica Robinson. They're
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suing for five thousand dollars five K for car payments and damages. This is
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going to start as a run of the mill, Lacy, go Daisy's,
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Leasy, go Daisy's, and then it's going to take a left, and
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then John Long shows up. Guy and Doris they moved from Pennsylvania to New
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Hampshire, a small town in New Hampshire, and they did what any couple
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in their forties and fifties do when they move to a new town. They
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join a Facebook group of that town to try to get to know people.
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We'll see what's out there. You don't have to move to a town.
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You can just bramble gym plus and join our Facebook. That's exactly right,
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I was born again. So they join a Facebook group to try to get
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to know people, see what all the hubbub is about. And Doris starts
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to see some posts from Erica claiming that they are in desperate need of food
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for them and their children, and so Doris reaches out and says, I'd
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love to bring you a meal, bring you some food, and she says,
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great, here's my address. When she shows up, nobody's home,
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so she leaves it on the porch. She does notice that there's like no
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kid toys on the yard, and she finds that to be odd. If
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she have kids, you know, uh there maybe there would be kids.
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But she's like what, you know, what, what can he do?
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So she leaves. She never meets Erica. She just leaves the food and
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goes great. And the neighbor's like, oh, make sure that they get
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it. So then Guy sees some posts from John on the Facebook, John
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Law saying Hey, I need rides for me and my kids. To go
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to some doctor's appointments. I don't have a car. I need I needed
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some help, need some rides. And so Guy is gonna help. Guy
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reaches out, tries to set up a time to help them get them to
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where they need to be. And every time they nail down a time,
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John Long would would back out. It like wouldn't work out. And so
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they start to talk to John a little bit more like while they're trying to
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get nailed down a time to pick him up. And John's like, listen,
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I'm John Long. I'm I actually have money. I'm a tow truck
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driver. I just can't buy a car because every time I get to the
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financing part of it, they run my credit. I don't have great credit,
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you know, I have a pass, but I do have money.
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And so Old Guy and Doris look out their window, and what do they
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see. They see a van of theirs that isn't really being used. Man,
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they have this van are above and they they are they really want to
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be liked earth. So they look outside. They see this van. It's
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relatively new, it's fully loaded, but they are still making payments on And
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so they make a deal with John Long, which you'd ever deal. You
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don't deal. You don't deal with John Long. They make a deal with
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John Is it a handshaky deal? It's a contract, Okay. They make
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a deal with John Long that hey, we're still making payments on this as
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long as you pay that amount, you can lease it from us. And
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as long as you're making payments, were good to go. They make a
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contract to draw it up and it's good to go. This is at this
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point that John Long has interrupted a couple of times. Uh. He's interrupted
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to say, uh, first and foremost, they said that the car had
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x amount of miles, it had more, Okay, so he wants to
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make sure that everyone knows that and uh. He also says in second of
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all their liars, souh. So guy guy endorsed say, here's what we
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need to do. You need to get insurance, and according to Toyota,
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you also need to add us on the insurance. Since you're leasing our vehicle,
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which we're still paying to Toyota, you need to put us on on
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your insurance. So John Long says, that's not a thing. It's that's
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not required by law. They're lying, essentially, so Jerry and the bailiff
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are. Both have told John Long to be quiet a couple of times that
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they're going to get their chance to talk. So it's now time for John
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Long to talk. John Long says, I got the insurance. I paid
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four hundred dollars. UH, signed the contract. I paid it for three
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months and and then the transmission went out. Okay, okay. So John
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says, listen, here's what you need to know, John, This is
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this is how John Long starts. He says, First of all, you
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guys live in my town. I don't live in yours. Oh my gosh,
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John Long, that's all you need. That's all you needed about.
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Yeah. Second, plenty against the big town. Yeah. Second of all,
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we're not crooks. We're on disability. They took advantage of us by
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tricking us into paying more for the car than it's worth. Lastly, they
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broke the law by subleasing it to us, because according to Toyota, you
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can't do that. So someone's lying here about that because it would be easy
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to figure out. Yes, but whatever Toyota says. He says that Toyota
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says that if you're still making payments, you can't sublease the vehicles. So
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yes, I did sign a contract for four hundred dollars, but I did
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it with them breaking the lawn in the first place. Did we ever get
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to the bottom that came? No, we never. I know, we
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never, because if you can't sublease the sublet, then he's got a point.
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Yeah, well we don't get to that. Sorry, So he says,
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I paid four hundred dollars until the transmission went out. I quit paying
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because according to law in the state of New Hampshire. Uh, Lisa lisays
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Lessi's Lisa Li says, Lisa Leslie's aren't required by law to pay for serious
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car damages or maintenance, which transmission would be considered serious. So that's why
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I stopped paying. That's true. He's right there. If you lease a
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car, the dealer or whoever you lease from, is responsible. The Lessie
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is not. Back to Guy and Doris, okay, they say, after
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they didn't receive a payment, they reached out to get the van. After
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a lot of back and forth, they finally did and the van is an
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absolute mess. There's damages all around it. Parts of the car are missing,
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the windshield is broken. They bring it into to get maintenance done,
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and the maintenance guy is like, this is the worst. This is the
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most messed up car I've ever seen. And they have a letter from the
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maintenance guy who says, basically, it looks like they were they had tied
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the van to something and had spun the wheels had just been just spinning the
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wheels staying in place, which is what would lead to a trans the transmission
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breaking because they had to make the transmission uh service uh not service fixed.
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Uh. They put a new transmission like a month before they started. So
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uh, they they all that's in writing. It looks like this is just
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me. I'm not I'm not there, but it looks like to me,
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John Longside, if I can get something serious to break in the van,
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then I can just stop paying as Hey, I could probably fix it for
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cheap, and then I can say, hey, I need this exactly.
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You know that's probably what trying to get money. Yeah, you know what
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it is. So they show pictures there's a lot of damage to the car.
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Are just like just parts of the car are just missing. It's a
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bizarre situation here. And Doris says, and also I kept up in the
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Facebook group. They're continued to scan people and I don't even think that they
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have children, and that's when Erica, who has not said a thing or
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made any expressions during this entire not only pipes up. She starts yelling and
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crying and says, we have two children. They're adopted. Don't talk about
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my children. Erica freaks out about this whole thing. We don't know about
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the children, but whatever. Jerry tells them to calm down. John Long
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says, don't tell me to calm down. Jerry then shushes him. John
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Long says, why are you shushing me. Jerry says it's because I'm the
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judge and it's my courtroom. John Long says, I don't care. I'll
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walk out, and Jerry says, well, that'll make it easy on the
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judgment. And John Long says I don't care, but Jerry still tries to
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continue. Jerry's nothing but professionals not and he says, listen Burnett's don't talk
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about their kids. It's it's out of line. It's not relevant to this
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story. John Long, Erica, you need to relax. So Jerry says,
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here's what I care about. Whether or not there's a legal obligation for
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John Long to pay for the remaining lease and for the damages. John Long
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says, can I speak, and Jerry says okay. John Long says they
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didn't repossess it, and Doris interrupts it, interrupts him and says, well
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then how do we have it? And John Long says, shut up.
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Guy says excuse me. John Long says, don't say excuse me to me.
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There's no one here to stop me. You do you think you or
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I am? And the bailiff at this point they showed Jerry and the bailiff,
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and the bailiff just points to himself and just like is like I can
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I can stuck you. That's kind of why I'm here. At this point,
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Uh, everybody's kind of like laughing, like what is going on here?
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John Long keeps running his mouth. Jerry bangs the gavel, stands up
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and says, get out of my courtroom, yells at them. At this
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point it was wild Erica turns to Doris and says, come meet me somewhere,
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b and she storms out. John John John Long follows behind and pushes,
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like just pushes the door really hard, and I think he thought that
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it would work better, but he pushed it as hard as he could and
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it hit the wall and it came back and it hit him as he was
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walking out. That was pretty great. And now it's time for the judgement
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and Jerry rules in favor of Guy and Doris obviously Dorian Doris whatever he name
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is. The good news for Doris and Guy is that they had a really
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great contract. Their contract states that, uh, they have to pay for
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the duration that they have the vehicle, and so they're going to owe on
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I think it's two months, like eight hundred dollars or something like that,
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and then they it also states that the card needs to be returning the same
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or better condition. The damages according to the surface, Guy is said that
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it's going to be well over four thousand dollars, and so Jerry gives him
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the entire band of dollars. And that is that John on Long didn't stand
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a change. That Long doesn't stand a chance. You're not you're not just
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dealing with with anybody. You're dealing with Jerry Springer. Jerry Springer, Judge,
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Jerry, it's my core room. Who do you think you are?
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I am man, what a good one? Man? I wish you could
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have seen John Long. Let's uh what do he look like? He was
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a big boy big. He was a big boy like buzz cut. Yeah.
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Wow, it's John Long. Let's go down south the old Texas Justice
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John. Oh yeah, Judge Joe Brown. How we're going out there in
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Judge Joe Brown's courtroom. We have miss Miller and mister Bullock. We maybe
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get their names written. I don't remember them, he only says, Miss
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Miller, mister Bullock. The whole case. Okay. Miss Miller is suing
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mister Bullock for twenty five hundred dollars in cash plus uh medical bills and pain
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and suffering uh for infection of scabies, totaling three hundred dollars. So you
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know, you don't see the scaby's coming. You don't see the skavy's coming.
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You never do. Uh. Their secret scavy saw them for sure.
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Boy, so good. They don't an announce their shows. You just show
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up, show up. You just listen for a week. You just see
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in your head for weeks. What's a secret. What's a secret. That's
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right. So let's start with miss Miller. She says, I moved into
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mister Bullock's house in November. I signed a lease. We see a picture
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of that lease. That lease is written on a sheet of printer paper in
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pen, and it's a couple of sentences and it's basically, first month up
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front, this is what you gotta pay. So isn't it crazy that that's
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all it takes. That's all it takes. That's it's just words now,
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piece of Mister Bullock is an old, old dude. He looks he's old,
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he's short, he's got a suit on. I think he's I don't
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know what kind of ties got on. So he had an actual house and
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he was he's gussing out a room. He's got apartment units over the place
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where he lives. He lives in the basement. Okay, so he lives
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in the basement rooms. There's units. You're probably walking a hallway and there's
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four room. So, uh, there're separate apartment units. Because when she
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went to look, she was looking for a place to live, needed one
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right away, and she went to look and he popped out of the basement
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and the two bedroom unit was being worked on, and so he showed her
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the three bedroom unit and she liked it, and she said, I'll take
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the two bedroom and he says, okay, all right, I'll be done
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by tomorrow on it. And she said so she looked at the three better
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and she said, when can I move in? He said, as soon
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as you I have the money, soon as I have first month's you know,
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rent I had a time thousand dollars sate. And then she says,
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Now I'm an exotic dancer and I work in the evenings. I worked two
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clubs. The first one in the evening, I started like seven, I
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worked all this midnight. The next one I work until nine am in the
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morning, like from midnight to nine am. And Joe, at this point,
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Joe goes, she's going nine to nine, She's going nine to nine,
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seven to nine. Sometimes. At this point, Joe goes very enterprising
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and he says, it just like that, and uh, she said a
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dancing. So I worked and uh, mister Bullock asked where his money was
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because I wanted to move in the next day, and then we were gonna
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paint it. Uh, because we wanted to paint it, and so we
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were gonna and then we're gonna get the lights turned on. And so I
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had all of my money in my money bag. Sure, and Joe said,
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what's a money bag? What do you think of money bag? And
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uh, and she goes a Kavassier bag, and he said, I don't
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know what no Kvasier bag is is is that is that like the alcohol?
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What he says, And she says, yes, sir, And he says,
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how quaint. So apparently Kavasier, which is you know, the bust
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of rhyme song, passed the Cavassier. I didn't make any of that up.
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That's a real song. Is I believe a form of Hennessy. She
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was carrying around all of her stripper money in a Hennessy bag that's normally carries
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a bottle of Hennessy. So that's where we are right now at nine in
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the morning. So so she said how He said, how much money do
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you have? And she said, I had a little bit over three thousand
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dollars on me. I gave one thousand mister Bullock to move in sign the
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lease, gave him a thousand dollars in cash. Now, at this point,
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my boyfriend and I left and went to purchase the paint, the rollers,
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et cetera, and the net we're gonna paint, and then the next
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day we were going to actually move in and turn the lights on, but
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we got the keys, we locked the door and we left, and here's
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the kicker. I left the Kavasier bag in my new apartment. So she
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gave one thousand dollars in cash brand to the roommate, to the to mister
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bulls Kvasier bag. How it is, Yeah, it's pretty straightforward, looks
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pretty standard. It's like a bag. Yeah, past the Cavasier. Uh.
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She gave a thousand dollars, mister Bullock. She then gets the keys,
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goes into her house, puts the bag down the table. It's got
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over two thousand dollars in it, leaves it there to go buy paint rollers
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and whatnot. She says, this is my place. Where else would I
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put my mond? Well, she gets back, money's gone, bag stolen,
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no sign of forced entry. So my god. So at this point,
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Joe says, now, why didn't you take the money with you to
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buy the things that you wanted to buy. She goes, I have other
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money. That's my savings. Yeah, that's my savings. He said,
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well, there's no bank that could take the savings, and she said,
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that was my money. I put it down the door. The keys lecture
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her on not putting your money in a bank, Joe. So then she
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has a witness that's her boyfriend. And the witness keeps doing the two step
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like, he keeps getting up and then sitting back, sit back, and
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he keeps getting up, sitting back down, and it's a riot. And
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then finally she gets this moment. He gets up and he goes, Judge
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Joe, you don't walk around with that kind of money. He gave us
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the key. This shouldn't have been an issue. The money's in our house.
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He gave us the key. Shouldn't be the issue. And then Joe
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goes, where you live has a burglary problem? And she goes he The
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witness goes, no, it doesn't, and he says, yes, it
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does. It's in It's in Raleigh, North Carolina, and in this neighborhood.
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I've got the district right here. There's more burglaries in this district than
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anywhere else. You very much should be responsible for your twenty five hundred dollars.
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You could get it robbed. And the witness goes, but somebody had
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to get in there with a key. It wasn't broken in. He didn't
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change the locks. Mister Bullock didn't change the locks. Then Judge Joe goes,
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do you have a statement from your employer saying that you had that much
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money in there? Do you have a W two? Do you have anything
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that says you actually had over two thousand dollars in the cavasier bag in the
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apartment. She says, No, I'm a dancer. I just got I
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got paid in cash. That's it. Like, do you not know how
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it works? She's just giving her the full month. Exotic dancers get W
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two's for their tips. Okay, yeah, they probably technically have to like
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table servers, but it like it's like when you wait in tables you declare
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like none of it. Yeah, so, uh tell me out to scabies,
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she said, forgot about the escape. Yeah, scabs is still coming
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in hot. So she said, mister Bullock, let us have two chairs
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that were his. He brought him up. Let him have us have the
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chairs. And we got like after a week or there, we started itching
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and he she said, I asked if he had bad bugs, didn't have
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bad bugs. We started itching, couldn't figure out what it was. When
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the doctor wants they told us it was this. Had to continue to get
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treatments over it. And we still have medical bills coming in that we've not
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actually gotten yet. We still have more bills that we didn't sue for that
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we have coming in. Here are those medical bills. And at this point,
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uh, do they know, like for sure that it came from those
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chair point mister Bullock, who literally he looks like he is the father Tom
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like he is an old, short dude who looks like he's in Sunday morning
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church. But he has not said anything the whole time. I don't know
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if he has teeth or not. And he he says, he finally says,
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you got that statement from somewhere else, That raby's paperwork, you got
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from somewhere else, not scape the rabies, and he's and and she was
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like, I knew he would say that it's scabies from the bed bugs you
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gave me. And he said, you got that rabi scabies whatever from somewhere
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else. You got scabies from all them dogs you've been sleeping with. You
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sleep with a dog, you get fleas. No, No, he's he's
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calling shots. And I don't know if money much of it makes sense,
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but he's calling shots. So at this point, Joe said is looking at
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the medical bills and says, uh, miss miss Miller did you read this,
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and she said, and before she can say anything, mister Bullock says,
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she can't read. He may as well have the guns out. He
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says, she can scamy somewhere else. You gotta sleep with the dog.
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You get fleas. You got them fleas with the dogs you've been sleeping with.
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Blah blah blah. You're all right, so uh, Joe says,
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this says that scabies can uh gets under your skin and uh can requires treatment,
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but can be transmitted between humans. Do you have proof that you got
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the bed bugs, the scabies from bed bugs in your apartment? Do you
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have anything that is impossible? It's from your line of work. So he
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doesn't say line of work, but what he does say is is where were
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you living before you moved in? And she said they were in a hotel
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for a few weeks. And that allows Joe to go into his full new
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story about New York and how the upscale hotels got the scabies and they were
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getting the bed bugs and was giving people scabies. It was a whole thing.
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Mister Bullock then popped Joe and says, mister Bullock, did you have
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you had any issues with scabies? Bed bugs and he does is full.
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It's like he's in a sitcom waiting for a life. He does this,
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turns his head away and the audience laughs. And he just says, she
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just liing, lie in line, That's all she's doing, is lying.
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She said, he said, I'm retired from the military, retire from work.
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I'm over seventy years old. I've she's just lying, she's she's just
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lying and uh. And then Joe says, well, these medical bills are
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all from like July or August. You moved into November and said you got
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this right away. I think you're scamming him, and the witness her boyfriend
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says, Judge, this is about him stealing our money. He stole and
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then Judge, he stole your money. Do you have proof he stole your
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money? Do you have any proof that he stole your money? And then
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mister Bullock says, you're on her. I'm seventy years old. These are
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the first bit that have ever called me a thief. And then miss Miller
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starts screaming at him, why didn't you change the locks? Why didn't you
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change the locks? And Bullet goes, look dummy, yeah, and miss
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Miller's like you're just old. You should be sitting in a home watching TV,
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eating jello. And then at that point Judge Joe calms everybody's down and
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he's ready to rule. Yeah, I don't think they're gonna get anything.
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I mean, I do think it's unfortunate, you know, Like I think
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it is very likely that he didn't change the lock, and that somebody had
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a key and they went in and then he took the money. I don't
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think that they're lying about that. But I don't think Judge Joe really cares,
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and so I don't think that they're gonna get any money. You're run
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hundred percent right, and I one hundred percent agree with you. Judge Joe
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basically throws the book at her, doesn't give her a dime, and basically
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is hard on her from the moment he finds out she's a dancer. And
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that bothered me during this case quite a bit. I don't think Bullocks stole
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the money. I don't think he did. He's seventy years old, he's
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been written for years and years. There would be no reason for him to
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steal two thousand dollars. It doesn't make any sense, and her story didn't
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quite add up timeline wise, But like the people that were doing the work,
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it could be that they had a key. It could Yeah, it
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could be any number of people if he didn't change a lot. He just
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fully doesn't believe her because she's a dancer, and that's unfortunate. I don't
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think she deserved any money either. But he writes her off immediately, So
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judge, Joe, Scabies helps either. Scaby's thing doesn't help at all because
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it's clear the relevant to the Yeah, try to make him look like to
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try to ruin his credibility and instead it strengthened his credibility, and that's unfortunate
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for her. Listen, there's a lot of people that don't put their money
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in a bank. Joe, Come on, Joe. Yeah, I thought
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that line of questioning was verrassment. Yeah, it was like, she's a
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dancer, she made three thousand dollars, leave her alone. Yeah, but
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if you want to sue somebody for stealing it and you don't have any proof
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of it, that is a problem. Ye, Like it's a both hands
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yeah, because you can't stop it, Joe. But simultaneously, don't come
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in here and sue when you just left the bag of cash laying around like
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it's your cash. People have never lost money in a bank never? All
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