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NFL Week 2 TNF Showdown | Bills @ Dolphins | DraftKings DFS Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 3: down all things Bill's Dolphins. Should be a really good
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  Speaker 3: game here to kick off Week two. Hoopster big week one,
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and just a note real quick before I bringing
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  Speaker 3: for three. We're gonna get to that later. We'll ask you, guys,
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  Speaker 3: who you think is gonna win the game? You've got
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  Speaker 3: for that as well as the over under, but we'll see.
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  Speaker 3: It was close the other day title forty nine ers
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  Speaker 3: and under, but unfortunately the forty nine ers almost put
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  Speaker 2: What's going on? Title? How you doing, my friend?
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  Speaker 6: Doing well, excited, Always enjoy talking with these shows. Always
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  Speaker 6: So I mean there's Tyreek and Josh Allen and a
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  Speaker 6: tier of their own captain ownership will kind of reflect that.
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  Speaker 6: After that, all relatively low as shown. Most start's out.
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  Speaker 6: So a little piece of news on the Miami side,
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  Speaker 6: But yeah, I'm excited to go through it.
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  Speaker 5: There's plenty of options outside of some of the big names.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna go through it all.
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  Speaker 3: for this one to break it all down. But before
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  Speaker 3: we get into it, maybe you want to just break
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  Speaker 3: this game down from the way you see it. First off,
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  Speaker 3: we've got you know, I think it's a two and
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  Speaker 3: a half. It's up to now that the Dolphins at home,
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  Speaker 3: and I think the total dropped a half point. It's
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  Speaker 3: down to around forty eight and a half. When we
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  Speaker 3: get to the game later, we'll get the breakdown there.
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  Speaker 3: But what's your first thoughts on the game, Your grand
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  Speaker 3: scheme overview.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so initial thought obviously is two offenses that can
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  Speaker 4: you know, kind of get it done. They can put
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  Speaker 4: up some points, and we have some obvious captains, like
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  Speaker 4: Title kind of talked about with Josh Allen and Tyreek Hill,
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  Speaker 4: the two most highest upside guys on the slate, their
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  Speaker 4: captain ownership probably both looking to be twenty plus, and
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  Speaker 4: then everyone else kind of falling in line behind them.
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  Speaker 4: A Chan obviously has the big playoffs side. I think
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  Speaker 4: he gets some. But it's a fun game for fantasy.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you have multiple pieces on both sides, we
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  Speaker 4: have some cheap options, we have an injury situation like
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  Speaker 4: we talked about with most, so I think it should
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  Speaker 4: be a fun, exciting game for fantasy. We have explosive players,
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  Speaker 4: which makes it even more entertaining. And you know, multiple
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  Speaker 4: running backs, multiple wide receivers, tight end plays, quarterback plays,
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  Speaker 4: and then you know, obviously we'll touch on kicker and
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  Speaker 4: defense at the end. But a plethora of options tonight
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  Speaker 4: in terms of playable guys.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Title, we got the stone up over here, We're
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  Speaker 3: But you gotta love this one title for showdown million
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  Speaker 3: Bucks up top tonight, like our guy Nade says, shut
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  Speaker 3: out to Day's great data ship of Millie.
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  Speaker 2: Love that call.
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  Speaker 3: But the high upside in the turquoise here, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I'm seeing a lot of it right. Obviously we're still
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  Speaker 3: waiting on the a Chan news. I mean I would
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  Speaker 3: expect he plays. I think at least others I know
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  Speaker 3: aren't as confident, but I definitely think he's going to
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  Speaker 3: be in the mix.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll see. But look at the you know, turquoise,
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  Speaker 2: turcoise turquoise, four.
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  Speaker 3: Or five of them up top here, So there is
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  Speaker 3: a ton of options, and when we get to captain
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  Speaker 3: and breaking that all down, it kind of makes it
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  Speaker 3: fun as well. But just your grand scheme overview, first
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  Speaker 3: thoughts on this game with this slight at hand, Yeah, I.
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  Speaker 6: Think you pointed out going to the stone seeing what's
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  Speaker 6: covered in blue, you see a lot of Buffalo receivers
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  Speaker 6: in blue. You see only the only player in cash
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  Speaker 6: consideration for the Bills is Josh Allen. And that's because
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  Speaker 6: I mean you could throw James Cook in there as well,
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  Speaker 6: but it's unknowns. Like we're kind of like the Packers
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  Speaker 6: when we talked about them against the Eagles.
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  Speaker 5: What receivers is it gonna be? Now?
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  Speaker 6: They're a lot more talented the Packers receivers, and they
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  Speaker 6: throw the ball a little more. This Buffalo team, if
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  Speaker 6: they can that run it down the throat with James Cook,
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  Speaker 6: with Josh Allen himself scored multiple touchdowns on the ground,
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  Speaker 6: but showdown one game formats more than likely one of
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  Speaker 6: these Bills guys might get there.
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  Speaker 4: Who is it?
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  Speaker 5: That's the big question.
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  Speaker 6: But that also has ownership spread out as we can
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  Speaker 6: see twenty seven, Shakir twenty one, Coleman seventeen, Curtis, Samuel
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  Speaker 6: and with Josh Allen, what's really fun when you play
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  Speaker 6: in captain you can run him naked, can stack them
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  Speaker 6: with one, with two and even three pass catchers because
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  Speaker 6: Knox is cheap, Matt Collins is cheap, Samuel Kean Shakir,
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  Speaker 6: don't break the bank.
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  Speaker 5: Then the Dolphins side. Yeah, I think the chain plays
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  Speaker 5: with you.
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  Speaker 6: It feels obvious that Jeff Wilson would be running back
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  Speaker 6: to because Jalen Wright was a healthy scratch last week.
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  Speaker 6: But who knows, it's week two. We can think something
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  Speaker 6: we don't actually know at the end of the day.
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  Speaker 6: So we have a very popular flex chief play and
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  Speaker 6: Jeff Wilson a right clear pivot after Tyreek and waddle.
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  Speaker 6: Good luck figuring out if it's Rios chosen Smike Smith
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  Speaker 6: all that after that. So I think some low on
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  Speaker 6: play is going to get there today, at least I'm
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  Speaker 6: hoping so too.
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  Speaker 5: Mix it up up top.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I got too. It's twunny, you know, sometimes
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  Speaker 2: Nads and I are aligned.
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  Speaker 3: And I was going to say this when we got
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  Speaker 3: to the Captain, So we'll use that as a segue
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  Speaker 3: in a second, just to talk about it. I know
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  Speaker 3: who loves a good consolidation up top, especially if it's
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  Speaker 3: a slate with Josh Allen.
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  Speaker 2: Jalen hurts those type of guys.
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  Speaker 3: But shout up to our guy Kyle go Collect really
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  Speaker 3: good dude, got to hang out with him there.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was in Detroit when we went there,
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  Speaker 2: hooped to.
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  Speaker 3: Your your stomping grounds, right, he came out with us
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  Speaker 3: and drove out for the day.
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  Speaker 2: Awesome to see him there. But yeah, we don't mind
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  Speaker 2: sharing it around the content stuff.
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  Speaker 3: But what you know, if someone even wants to screenshot
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  Speaker 3: this and take it away for one show, go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: I mean you're still taking it to the other sites
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  Speaker 3: that you pay way more for your optimizer. You're not
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  Speaker 3: getting our projections ownership for the rest of the week.
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  Speaker 3: You're not getting the other stuff for the Showdown slate,
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  Speaker 3: like the core report, the player pool, the slate plan.
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  Speaker 3: You're not getting all of the stuff for the main
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  Speaker 3: slate on top of all the other sports. So don't
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  Speaker 3: mind sharing around. Plus, it's not the final update. It's
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  Speaker 3: just the first update of the day. Shout up to
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  Speaker 3: our guy Joey Work. I see him out there, I
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  Speaker 3: see our guy Newan's gonna be more with him shortly.
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  Speaker 3: We'll talk about that. In the discord, our guy Baderbaer
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  Speaker 3: called it out like it is a chen couldve benientthing
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  Speaker 3: from Captain to rule out, you need to be ready
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  Speaker 3: to pivot obviously, the CMC News on Monday, so hoop,
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to you here hit the segue button
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  Speaker 3: on what Ned said because Josh Allen and kind of
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  Speaker 3: just how this works real quick, I can kill two
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  Speaker 3: birds with one stone. We're showing him right now around
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  Speaker 3: twenty five percent on our initial ownership for the captain
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  Speaker 3: position here tonight, right the captain slot. But through our simulations,
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  Speaker 3: with our projections, with salary and the slight at hand,
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  Speaker 3: he's still optimal. He still should be up there thirty
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  Speaker 3: percent of the time, which makes him the most most leverage.
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  Speaker 4: Sounds out. Sounds out, So take a break, I'll hop in.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, So basically this is just showing you what
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  Speaker 4: their ownership is and the chances of them being on optimal.
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  Speaker 4: So for Josh Allen, it's saying, you know, if he
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  Speaker 4: comes in at twenty five percent on we still think
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  Speaker 4: he gets in the optimal lineup thirty percent of the time,
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  Speaker 4: creating a five percent leverage situation. Tyreek Hills the other
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  Speaker 4: popular captain guy, and his ownership is twenty two optimal
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  Speaker 4: chances looking like twenty three, So small leverage situation, not
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  Speaker 4: not too crazy. But Josh Allen is clearly the one
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  Speaker 4: that stands out with that five percent captain level. Are
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  Speaker 4: you back in action? Tamba?
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  Speaker 2: I think so, Do you have a mat?
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  Speaker 3: It's something to do with the long winded and the breaks,
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  Speaker 3: but we'll get it solved here.
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  Speaker 4: It's a stream guard telling you your ass talks too much.
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  Speaker 3: Might be, might be, but real quick before we talk
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  Speaker 3: about this stuff. Same thing like we had this in
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  Speaker 3: the discord all week already. I think I've seen it
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  Speaker 3: four different people posted it. There's like a very I mean,
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  Speaker 3: obviously he's played them enough times, but it's such a
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  Speaker 3: small sample size.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't do well against the Bills until he does.
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  Speaker 3: The guy doesn't play well at a golf course until
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  Speaker 3: he wins at that tournament.
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  Speaker 2: Like it happens in every sport.
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  Speaker 3: He doesn't hit well off this guy and then has
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  Speaker 3: two home runs off of him.
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  Speaker 2: It's the same in every sport. I just literally never
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  Speaker 2: use that.
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  Speaker 3: And the worst place I think you can use it
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  Speaker 3: is on a showdown slate. I hope that's you know,
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  Speaker 3: for you, good good spot, but not for me. Hoop,
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  Speaker 3: go ahead, take it into the captains and just how
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  Speaker 3: you might handle somebody like Josh Allen with the high
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  Speaker 3: ownership there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I like to call that our guy Nate said
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  Speaker 4: with condensing at Captain tonight and the something I usually
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  Speaker 4: try to do so farther season, I've spread it out
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  Speaker 4: a little bit more than I typically do, but tonight
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  Speaker 4: could be a night where I just go ahead and
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  Speaker 4: you know, really condense it down. Josh Allen Tyreek Hill,
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  Speaker 4: I think definitely guys to consider fading him in the
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  Speaker 4: Captain super risky. I don't care about the history with
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  Speaker 4: with Tyreek and the Bills. He has so many different
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  Speaker 4: ways to get it done in multiple sorts of game scripts,
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  Speaker 4: so I'm fine with that. I mean I do actually,
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  Speaker 4: you know, if deciding between the two, probably prefer Josh Allen.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the nice thing about condensing on a slate
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  Speaker 4: like tonight is there's so many plays on the slate,
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  Speaker 4: so many viable options. You're just gonna be able to
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  Speaker 4: get so many different combinations with your main captains because
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  Speaker 4: of all the viable plays, which we'll talk about as
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  Speaker 4: we go through. A chain is a guy to consider
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  Speaker 4: up there. I mean, he has the ability to just
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  Speaker 4: absolutely break a slate. He was very active in the
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  Speaker 4: passing game. I don't know the exact numbers, but it
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  Speaker 4: seemed like he got quite a bit of work. It's
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  Speaker 4: going to pull it up real fast. Yeah, seven targets.
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  Speaker 4: I mean that that's big boy numbers in the passing game.
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  Speaker 4: So seven targets, seven receptions. But like someone else posted
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  Speaker 4: like there's a chance he's like out. I mean they
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  Speaker 4: still said he needs to warm up pregame and see
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  Speaker 4: I do, and I think he plays. The practice report
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  Speaker 4: from yesterday looked like he would probably probably play, so
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  Speaker 4: I think he does play. He's definitely captain worthy. I
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  Speaker 4: think James Cook is potentially got to look especially if
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  Speaker 4: you're gonna be underweight Josh Allen in the in the captain,
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  Speaker 4: I think Cook is a guy to to look at.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't even hate Kincaid. I know it wasn't
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  Speaker 4: great in that opening game, didn't do much at all,
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  Speaker 4: but I think he's in line for for a bounce
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  Speaker 4: back today. So I will keep it relatively narrow as
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  Speaker 4: well be updated in my player pool on the website.
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  Speaker 4: But guys, I'm considering at this point Josh Allen to
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  Speaker 4: a chain James Cook, and then you know, maybe throw
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  Speaker 4: Waddle in the mix too. I mean, if it's not Tyreek,
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  Speaker 4: it can be Wattle. And we talked about it on
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  Speaker 4: the main show on Sunday. Those guys rarely go off together.
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  Speaker 4: So I don't hate a rule of uh, you know,
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  Speaker 4: if you're playing Tyreek Hill Captain to keep Wattle out,
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  Speaker 4: if you're playing Wattle captain to keep Tyreek out, I
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  Speaker 4: don't necessarily hate that. I mean, I don't know if
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  Speaker 4: I'll end up doing it, but I don't hate that
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  Speaker 4: as a as a rule.
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  Speaker 3: Tonight, Yeah, I think you mean Jordan Poyer because he
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  Speaker 3: switched sides. He's on the opposite team now and I
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  Speaker 3: think Today's white moved on to the rams. But I
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  Speaker 3: don't have it in front of me. I was just
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  Speaker 3: trying to look that up and see. But just a note,
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  Speaker 3: and even like our guy Nades, now we're gonna disagree
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  Speaker 3: because this is the one. Like, here's the thing about Tyreek.
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  Speaker 3: One play can do really good things for you. Two
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  Speaker 3: plays can break the slate. So twenty three is a lot.
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  Speaker 2: And now the video is going out.
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  Speaker 4: If you just get slimmed, you got freaking like slimmed.
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  Speaker 4: It looks like a big blava slid right in your face,
• 12:51
  Speaker 4: Nickelodeon style.
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  Speaker 2: It's great tonight.
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  Speaker 4: That is that's a sign, though, right there, man, like this,
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  Speaker 4: you might be shipping tonight, but that's sort of that's.
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  Speaker 3: That's worse than the than the mic going out, Wow,
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  Speaker 3: we're going no, no, no camera the rest of the way.
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  Speaker 4: The slime is the slim.
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  Speaker 3: You guys talked through it, but I'll what sucks is
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  Speaker 3: I was about to land a huge point is that
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  Speaker 3: it's one play to get there, two plays to break it.
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  Speaker 3: Twenty three is plenty, and the twos that needs will
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  Speaker 3: be seeing are the Tyreek twos in his face when
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  Speaker 3: he's walking into the end zone on those two plays,
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  Speaker 3: because there's no way he can have a good game
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  Speaker 3: because he's never had one in the past when the
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  Speaker 3: personnel was completely different and the sample sizes nothing.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna say. Title you go ahead, Well,
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  Speaker 2: I try and fix this problem up. I'm getting pissed off.
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  Speaker 5: Now, that's good.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know if that was like a balloon slime
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  Speaker 6: what was coming in your face? But yeah, I'm with
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  Speaker 6: you guys with who maids probably you it sounds like
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  Speaker 6: where I mean, how do you not play?
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  Speaker 5: Josh Allen?
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  Speaker 6: We haven't met twenty five percent on and we think
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  Speaker 6: thirty percent is how much he hits it for five
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  Speaker 6: percent leverage. I'm gonna be playing Josh Allen. We saw
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  Speaker 6: his upside last week. There's plenty of cheap options on
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  Speaker 6: the slate. There's plenty of low owned options. Like we'll
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  Speaker 6: talk about defenses later. They're gonna be low owned. Kickers
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  Speaker 6: will be a little lower own than usual because a
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  Speaker 6: lot of people going to Jeff Wilson down below. You
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  Speaker 6: have anyone that's on the field for Buffalo wide receivers,
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  Speaker 6: whether Shakir Coleman, Samuel of that is gonna be six
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  Speaker 6: k or less.
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  Speaker 5: Shakiir is a little more there.
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  Speaker 6: So there's enough value on the slate where I like
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  Speaker 6: mainly playing the studs. Josh Allen, Tyreek by far my favorites.
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  Speaker 6: A chain would by far be my third favorite. They're
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  Speaker 6: in my own tier. And then after that, Yeah, sawadle Kinkaid,
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  Speaker 6: Like we have Kinkaid at two percent captain ownership.
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  Speaker 5: He was still on the field, like you only got.
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  Speaker 4: Two pass it is too if they have that numbers
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: anywhere close, I have to I have to have some Kinkaid,
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: have to.
• 14:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's gonna be pretty close.
• 14:49
  Speaker 6: The one number I don't agree with, and then I
• 14:51
  Speaker 6: want both of your thoughts. On is too so we
• 14:55
  Speaker 6: have them at fourteen percent. I think it could be
• 14:57
  Speaker 6: half of that. People just don't like playing non rushing
• 15:00
  Speaker 6: quarterbacks in the captain spot. And if that's the case,
• 15:03
  Speaker 6: I'm just say he has eight percent. Who we would
• 15:06
  Speaker 6: have that as very good positive leverage. I'm talking in
• 15:09
  Speaker 6: my head. It's like how I see the game going.
• 15:11
  Speaker 6: I don't like it really because Okay, he throws it
• 15:14
  Speaker 6: to Tyree, he gets three hundred yards and three touchdowns. Well,
• 15:17
  Speaker 6: Tyreek probably has one hundred plus and two of them
• 15:20
  Speaker 6: or waddle that way, and then you probably need them.
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: I was funny, you think it's too low on.
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: It's funny you bring this up because it's literally exactly
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: what I was thinking about. I went for a walk.
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: I went for a walk before the before the show,
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: and I was just thinking through the slate, and that
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: same exact thought popped in my head, like to a captain,
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: How does Tua captain get there? And I was having
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: a hard time visualizing that getting there because every single
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: time he has a big game, either waddle, no one's
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: got Tyreek go off and they're just going to score
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: more fantasy points. So even at the lower projected ownership, Like,
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: I don't, dude, still mess with this line? May clear
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: clear now, It's just it seems like it's very I mean,
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: how does he get there? Let's talk about that, Like,
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: how does Tua captain get there? What is this?
• 16:09
  Speaker 6: He throws one to John Neu or Smite or Barrios
• 16:12
  Speaker 6: are chosen and like Tyreek gets us eighty five yards.
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: In a time.
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. You gotta throw one to a
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: random guy. Essentially, it's one that has to go to
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: to a random because even if let's say he throws
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: one to a chain like that probably puts him a change. Yeah,
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: gotta be Yeah, so it's got if you you can
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: visualize him throwing to a random guy for a touchdown,
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: that's how a captain gets there. I don't I don't
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: love the play. You get an exit fifty or I
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: think I might it just it just seems like a
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: very unlikely outcome that that Tua is the optimal captain.
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: So Tamba, I'm gonna throw back. Yeah, all these comments,
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: everyone's saying it. So we have him at fourteen percent captain,
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna let's say I tell you know, for a fact,
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: it's gonna be seven percent when the slate locks.
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: What are you doing.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: I'll probably get a light amount, but it's just gonna
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: be built out like a triple stack or something.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: But I'm not in love with it anyway.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: It would just be an ownership play based on that
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: I was looking up. I was trying to see if
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: tonight's one of them Nickelodeon Kids games.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: I got slimed through this thing. I know what happened
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: there for a minute, but we.
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: Made it was a preemptive. It was a preemptive strike
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: from Aids. He knew you were coming for with the.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Deuce with the slime bomb right right quick. When I
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: said something. It just somehow worked out.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Like man, I don't know how this thing happens, but
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: I like our guys comment. It does feel that way.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: The key component would be, though, is if he does
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: end up spreading it out like that's really what's usually
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: the thing. Usually we're saying he doesn't, and tonight did
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: get a little bit more condensed, So that is the
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: trouble for me. Title Just going back to your thoughts.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: Even if we do get that ownership boot, which I
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: actually agree with you, I think that would be the case,
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: then you're thinking like, oh, man, I can get even
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: more leverage on that. But the thing is is when
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: you have just a chan tyreek waddle, even those tight
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: ends were split up. Man, So like you literally almost
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: need the perfect outcome where it's Tua runs one in.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: He throws big yards to his boys, but not enough
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: because if they get too much, that's gonna put them
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: up top. And then it really has to be like
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: one to tyreek, one to waddle, one to a tight end,
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: and so just build accordingly, and most people are building
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: twenty or less. I would definitely think about that when
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: you're building those lineups out. If you're going that route,
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: I like it.
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: I got one more captain name for you.
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: We're showing two percent Jeff Wilson, so everyone's gonna be
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: playing him in the flex.
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: He's plus one time to score on DraftKings.
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: And again, it's so hard for me to look at
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: these TD props because like so many are overinflated the
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: slate plan. So Tamba has a little piece for that.
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: It sounds like be in there plus one tenant to
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: score is not crazy. A chain's banged up if they're
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: inside the ten multiple times, like it very well could
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: be Wilson as the goal line back in the carry.
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: Or we saw a chain lineup in the slot multiple times.
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: Two running back sets a chain in motion. They don't
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: get it to him. To give it to Wilson, Like
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: if he falls in the box twice, he's gonna be
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: played at flex. People aren't gonna play that captain. That's
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: something I'm looking at. And what are you You talked
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: about slave plan?
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna go there.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: I just was getting another comment while you said that
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: he's definitely in the slate plan. I'm gonna be talking
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: more about him in there. But this was another point.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: I like this one kid Lightning member over at ship
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: a Nation sharp dude. A good call out here too. Like, again,
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: if you're going that route with Tua, it's not just
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: what you need Tua to do and to put what's
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: in the put into the lineup, what you expect to
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: make him be up top. You'd also have to think
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: what does that mean for Alan on the other side,
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: What does that mean for all of their guys on
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: that team with all these high upside options that we
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: talked about, all these cash considerations, these other options there.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: So I definitely think that's another key point that you
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: have to talk about as far as Wilson goes.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: I like your call.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: I just it's not gonna get that sneaky in the Flex,
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: but I think it's gonna be fine in the Captain
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: because he's actually showing something there.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Obviously, this all goes to shit.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: If a Chan's ruled out somehow when we get closer
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: to lock, and that'll change up quite a bit. But
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: I definitely think that's possible. So we'll have to see
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: from there. Do you have anything else on that one?
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: No, I just think he's gonna be very popular in
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: the flex, and that's very obvious where if you flip
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: the bild as you talk about in other spots. Plus
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: one time and just really stuck stood out to me
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: and again with the chain beat up a little bit,
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: like why run him through the tackles as much when
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: you have someone that they obviously trust, so.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: Especially if you're out there and you don't believe in
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: this spot for a han like it's early in the
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: like people say early in the season, they don't want
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: to run him as much all these situational stuff. So
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: where he's been questionable all week, I don't believe in
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: that stuff. It's the same three game sample size that
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: I make fun of for everything else. So I'm not
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: buying into it. I'm just saying that if you don't.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: If you buy into that stuff and you're saying that,
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: then the same people. If you're not playing Tyreek because
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: he does bat against the Bills and you don't want
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: to play Acham because of his questionable status is leading
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: into poor performances, then think about that in your bill.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: Use that as the conversation piece. Well, what's going to
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: happen next? The other thing is too Wilson is definitely
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: a spot here where you say, you go for a
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: touchdown or two, I think I'll be overweight in flex.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: And whenever someone is super popular in flex, people don't
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: always think about the next level. Okay, I'm not going
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: a Channet Captain. I'm using Wilson in the flex, But
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: what about you flipping that and using Wilson up top
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: instead to fit some of these high priced dudes Hill
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: Waddle to James Cook, Shakiir Allen, some of those guys
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: and getting a little bit more in there. So who
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: any thoughts from you on the Wilson stuff?
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: If you do go the Wilson captain route. You know,
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: we talked about this all the time. Got to be
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: somewhat careful what you do with the rest of your lineup.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: Don't assume by playing Wilson captain you're just gonna be different,
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: because a lot of times when you take those cheap,
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: cheap captains and put them up there, everyone has the
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: same build. So you're thinking, all right, Wilson's only x
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: percent in the captain spot. If I play him, I'm
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: gonna be different. Well, a lot of people that play
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: Wilson captain. I mean, there's two hundred thousand people in
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: the main entries on DraftKings. There's gonna be Wilson captain.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: A lot of people are gonna have the same So
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: you'd definitely be looking to leave big chunks a salary
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: on the table or something like that. Don't just assume
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: they're gonna be different with Wilson Captain.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Did you type this title because I think that's or
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: did you type that?
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: Who?
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Good? Good?
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Good?
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: To note for sure that's We'll have the FanDuel segment
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: at the end. More just to lean in on some
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: of this stuff even more, But who you just brought
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: up a really good point that I actually do want
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: to rehash just for a second from the other night.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Obviously this is not even close, at least not yet.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: We'll have to wait on the eight Chan news again.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: We expect them to play. But if he doesn't, then
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: Wilson does get thrust into like the situation from the
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: other night for the forty nine ers there, but that
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: was you know, we had we had him at like
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: I think it was twenty five percent captain OPTA. Like
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: once CMC's ruled out, he just becomes such a good
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: play And that's why. But you almost had to know,
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: like we were talking about in the discord, leave money
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: on the table in those builds if you want to
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: have a chance to ship unique with that as a captain,
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: more unique than the five thousand person lineups where you
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: could get Mason with the exact every dude. That's gonna
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: be the case tonight. So and if then scenario title
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: would be if somehow a Chan was ruled out, now
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: you are gonna see Jeff Wilson jump to a big
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: time captain because it allows people to fit in even
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: every optimizer, every projection site, all that is going to
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: just force in Tyreek, Josh Allen, maybe even one of
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: Waddle and James Cook, like it's gonna fit it all.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: At that point, You'll still be able to close out
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: with a kicker or something and feel like I've got
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: the nuts. That's the difference right now with a chan
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: in versus if he was ruled out. But to Hoop's point,
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: even if you're using him right now, as the current
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: stance is, you are getting a captain discount, but you're
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: probably filling it out the same way. I would rather
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: use him in like a two touchdown scenario where it's
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: like just Josh Allen on the other side, maybe Josh
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Allen and one guy, and then load up on Dolphins
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: here even though they're a two point to and a
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: half point favorite. People like the Bills, So Whoop, anything
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: else you want to add on that, or we can
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: move on.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: Another scenario that happened the other night was with the
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: Jordan Mason news, which was obviously you know, we knew
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: this would happen, This would be the case with him
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: being the guy. All those other value plays on the slate,
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: their ownership just diminishes, and we talked about, like you know,
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: Alan Lazard for example, last night his ownership or not
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: last time. The last game, his ownership came way way
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: down because of the Jordan Mason news, and then he
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: obviously gets the what do you have two touchdowns or
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: one touchdowns?
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: You should have had to debo freaking holding bogus. Then
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: he got at that same drive.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, So that's one thing to keep in mind.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: I think there's quality value plays on the slate that
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: you can still stick with even if we do get
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: like the A Chain news that he is not going
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: to play, which I do think he plays that. It's
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: probably mute point, but just something to take note of.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: Any time you get a very very popular cheap play,
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: the ownership on all the other cheap value plays goes
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: way way down.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: One last thing I want to talk about too, and
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: this is why we want you to subscribe to the
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Man Media Network but subscribe to our channel, is we
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: only do free shows, and we strive to make our
• 24:59
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• 25:02
  Speaker 3: And the reason I say it like that is because
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: I think this concept would be something most sites would
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: hold back for discussing behind a paywall or like, let
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: me explain this to you because it's more advanced or whatever.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: But two people brought it up, what about Alan? And
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: then it's a one to five.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: At least, how I would consider it is you're putting
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: Alan in the captain and five guys in the flex
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: that are from the other team.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: The reason that works sometimes.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: And especially on a spot like this, I think it
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: does work, and you can take it a step further
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: and do a two to four where it's allan one
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: guy and then four is because the Dolphins are already
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: condensed and only going to get more condensed if somehow
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: a Cham was ruled out. If they're even if he's
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: not ruled out, and as we keep talking about, he's in,
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: you still have a pretty condensed offense there. The other
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: side can get spread around. You got Alan, James Cook,
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: it could be Shakir Coleman, Mac Collins was out there
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: getting red zone looks, Knox and Kinkaid, mistakes made and
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: a field goal kicker, so just so many things can happen.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: It's almost like the Chiefs on that side, and if
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: you wanted to go with Alan scores two.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: On the ground. Spreads it around.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: And you don't really need a lot of these guys.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: You could fill it up that way and run a
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: one to five. You could also just make it a
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: two to four and say, I'll go Alan and the captain.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna pick key On Coleman as my guy that
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: he hits one time, runs it in twice, and then
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: let me fill it up with the condensed offense on
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: the Miami side. Just a game, just a thought that
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: you can go through for playing showdown that not many
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: people do. And if you ever look at the breakdowns
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: of the lineups, one fives and two fours are pretty
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: much unowned compared to everything else on the slate.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: That's how they work. This would be a time they
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: can work.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: So yeah, it's a extreme running quarterbacks and then you
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: know workhorse running backs that get all the work and
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: can get three touchdowns. That's how you can make it
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: where we have I think a scenario tonight where it
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: could work, you know, Josh Allen captain with you know
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: two uh and you know ty you have a condensed
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: offense on the other side.
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: Like, like you just said's a really good point there.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: And again sorry, they're way more unique when you do
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: it because not many people are going to be running
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: and Alan captain with Tyler Bass and then four Dolphins.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: But yet that can work, and that's going to be
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: a potential lineup for sure.
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: And the one way we've seen it work and on
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: at least a few occasions where it's allan Captain Dolphins
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: defense in there to get it's different. People don't want
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: to do that, but it all it takes is one
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: pick six. Josh Allen's very capable of producing that. So
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: just another note there, go ahead, Yeah, I.
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: Just want to point that out. Like today, it's a
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: little different slavery is. I think five ones on the Dolphins.
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: Side will be a lot higher on than usually five
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: ones are for the exact reasons you said four to
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: two Dolphins is.
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: Going to be the most popular.
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: Three three will get some as always, But if you
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: look at like five to one Dolphins, just say that's
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: going to be ten percent.
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: The Bills five to one might be like one percent.
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: And the reason for that, like you're saying, it's so
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: much more condensed on the Dolphins side that Jeff Wilson
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: salary is very important on this slate. Then you can
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: mix in like a Barrios, one of the three tight
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: ends they play kickers ds, whereas Buffalo side like Shakir Coleman,
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: Samuel Mack Scantling. There's so many more unknowns, which is
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: gonna lead a lot of people to four two's or
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: five to one Miami.
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: So just keep that in mind.
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: I like what you can go a two to four
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: Alan captain and Bass as the other Buffalo guy because
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: you know, Josh you can run two touchdowns as we
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: saw last week, or three touchdowns.
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: He doesn't need to bring anyone with him.
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: Just be a little careful if you go like Alan Wilson,
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: Tua Tyreek, then whatever like a kicker or something that
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: won't be as unique as you think.
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: Even if you do go just one.
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: Bill in the five Dolphins because the nature of the
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: pricing and the stuff so good talking point for sure.
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I like that.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: And then just over on the site, just showing on
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: ship demizer because members watching and the others that aren't.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: We obviously have this for NFL. I'm on the showdown slay.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: You can force how many total players from either team,
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: So if you are looking to force some of these stacks,
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: doesn't mean you have to play them. But once you
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: adjust your player pool, go into your build settings and
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: then go into the team stacks. You can set it
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: up where you build out twenty lineups, let's say, and
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: then just save the ones you like. If you're like, well,
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: that one makes sense. I actually heard them talk about
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: that on the show. That kind of really fits my pool,
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: and I'd want a couple of those lineups in there.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: That's how you can do it. So shift to miser
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: will help you with that as well. I think that's plenty.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: On the captain, I think I I think we just
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: break it down differently and try.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: And give you guys as much as possible.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: But Hoop said it a CMC A Josh Allen a
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: Jalen hurts guys like that is when you can get
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: away with the one to fives, the two fours become
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: unique defense against a quarterback captain in this case would
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: work perfectly. So just lots of things that you can
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: do tonight. I think there's gonna be some lineups like
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: that that we see that have a chance assuming we
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: get a little bit of scoring here. We'll throw that
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: out there soon and before actually I'm gonna throw it
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: out now, but title, I'll let you start off.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Do you want to talk any more? About quarterbacks.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: If not, you can take us into just more in
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: depth on the running back and maybe spend some time
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: on the bills because we didn't talk a lot about
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: James Cook the other stuff there.
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: So yeah, yeah, I don't really have much more to
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: say about quarterbacks. Josh Allens by far one of the best.
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: On the slate.
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: The tool ownership we think will be lower than it is,
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: but it's still you really have to if you're building
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: a tool lineup, just tell yourself, paint a picture in
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: your head how it works.
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: As far as the running backs, I mean.
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: It's clear that like the two a chain in Wilson,
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: so Miami side, like you're talking about, very easy. Now
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: I will have some Jaalen right and just in the
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: flex not captain.
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: He's the rookie.
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: He was a healthy scratch last week, but now they've
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: known moster.
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: It's been beat up a chained in.
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: Practice earlier in the week, so right, way more explosive.
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: Maybe they have some gadget place for him. Stuff like that.
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: He was at least obviously drafted for a reason, a
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: pivot off of Jeff Wilson.
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: And if you're not playing.
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: A chain, I don't even hate if you had Jeff
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: Wilson and Jalen right together in the flex in the
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: one fifty stuff where you're trying to win a milli solo.
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: But that side's easy enough. I'll be playing a lot
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: of in the flags.
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: Like you said, chalk On on good Eating Buffalo side's interesting,
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: and it's mainly because like Ray Ray Davis is or
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: Ray Davis is thirty six hundred dollars, that's not free
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: by any means. You actually have to do something at
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: that price. And he's splitting with Ty Johnson on the
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: work that James Cook doesn't get. When James Cook's out
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: of the game, it's more Ty Johnson on third downs
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: a good pass catching back, it's more Ray Davis. When
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: James Cook they're on their tenth or tenth play of
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: the drive, Cooke's been pounding it there. You need a
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: quick breather on first down. Ray Davis comes in. You
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: almost need a touchdown for Ray Ray Davis and he
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: is where is he plus eight hundred? I just don't
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: like him. At the end of the day, I don't
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: will hardly have any of him. I don't really like
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: Ty Johnson. I'll probably hardly have any of him because
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: I prefer, right, I prefer Wilson. I really prefer taking
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: a shot on Matt Collins, John News Smith, Bradston Barrios.
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: So at the end of the day, it's James Cook,
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: it's a chain, it's Wilson, it's right.
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: But man, the change in such a smash spot. Assume
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: he plays. I hope people get scared.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the chat's looking pretty split right now. I put
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: it up.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: You guys didn't see it, and you're just listening, and
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: you go go in the chat, throw in who you've
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: got winning the game where we were getting over under.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: Later people are throwing it up like last year, but
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: we don't have that segment. So all we want to
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: know who's winning, and so far it looks like Buffalo Bills, Bills, Bills.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: Then it goes on three Dolphins, so it's close back
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: to the Bills, but it's four to four.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: It's only five to four right now.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: For the Bills, So keep it rolling. Throw your winners
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: in there and see what you got. Who anything more
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: you want to talk about with these running backs here?
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, in the spirit of saving time, like
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: I'm in locks up with title, like it's a change
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: Cook Wilson. Right, I'm not messing with these backup running
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: backs for Buffalo. I mean, they have to beat so
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: many guys priced around them to be the guy tonight,
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: like Ty Johnson and Ray Davis. They have to beat
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: Jeff Wilson and right, they're priced around the Kickers, they're
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: priced around the defen There's gonna be some cheap wide
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: receivers like. They just have to beat too many guys.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: And I don't know, even if they get a touchdown,
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: like let's say James Cook needs a break and I
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: don't know, Ray Davis gets in there and scores a touchdown,
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: they still might not even Still, that still might not
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: be enough for them to be un optimal. So I'm
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: out on those dudes. It's a chan Cook, Wilson and right,
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: and moving.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: On interesting, Right, So the bills just took off when
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: I said that.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: It's bills, bills, doub bills, bills, Bill's mafia bills, bills
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: with a dolphins and a fins in there. So Bill's
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: way up. So the chat officially got the bills. We
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: got that one covered. Now I'll count the one some earlier,
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: but give us the over or under forty eight and
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: a half, so over or under forty eight and a
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: half and we'll get it.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: The Bills are for sure the winner. It's gonna be Bills.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: The YouTube chat and the YouTube chat's been good on
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: the side, they've been bad on the total.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: They haven't been able to hit them both together.
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: So so good Wong teaser opportunity tonight with the Bills.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: If you do like the Bills, you can tease them
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: up to on fandles nice because you can pick the
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: amount that you go up by, so you can take
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: them from two and a half up to seven and
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: a half, and then another team you can run it
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: back with would be like the Lions are favored by
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: seven seven and a half, so you can tease those
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: two together. So a perfect Wong teaser situation.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Even on same game, if you did like a seven pointer,
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: I know typically the number is forty one that you're
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: looking for.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: It's forty eight and a half right now, so it
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: kind of sucks.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: But if you could eat the hook the forty one
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: and a half and you really got a strong feeling
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: to the over, you could drop it down to forty
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: one and a half, the Bills up to nine and
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: a half with the seven both ways and not be
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: the worst if you like something like that. So yeah,
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: I don't hate that for sure. You know the weather
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: Talks title people talk about that. Did you see anything
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: on the weather? Do you look at that at all?
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: Because that's where I think some people are leaning to
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: the under with the rain. But we've also seen in
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: rain and snow games even in the past, where that
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: causes more chaos and ends up leading to more points.
• 35:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah. What I always do. I go to Kevin Ross
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: weather report. He has it as yellow, usually yellow. I
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: really don't change much in any sport. Scattered storms, a
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: few lingering showers. I don't expect to wash out. No,
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: that weather's not going to change my approach on anything.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Man five six, seven eight.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: It's like ten ten right now. We need more over
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: and unders. Give us the over under forty eight and
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: a half. We want to know that. That's sort of
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: what we're trying to find to link it down. So
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: we'll keep it going with that. But let's move on, Hoop.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: I'll let you take it into wide receiver. Probably a
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: much bigger discussion today the running back. We did enough,
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: we went through if then scenarios even at the captain everything.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: We talked through it with Tua and Josh Allen at
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: the Captain. If you want to bring more Captain thoughts
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: in here now that you're here. We didn't spend a
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: lot of time on Shakir Coleman some of the alternate guys.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: But I think it's because we were talking about keeping
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: it condensed. But go ahead, Hoop take over wide receiver.
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, real quick, William Yes, rocking the eleven half from Miami.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: If he ships, he's going, I'll meet you there. If
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: we bullship, we'll meet up in Miami and do a
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: stint at eleven. Will pay the price. So, I mean
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: the bounce back from eleven is like a couple of days.
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: So and then whatever you shift, you'll be donating right back.
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: Go to a better cause. Wide receiver. Obviously we have tyreeg.
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: Obviously we have Wattle. After that, you know, it gets
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: it gets a little bit dicey and definitely good with
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: both of those in Captain again, I have to see
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: when I go to build teams, I'm gonna be building teams.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: I always we do the show. I start building my
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: team and then start getting some of getting the content up.
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: I have to see with with Wattle how much I get,
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: But obviously I know I'm getting Tyreek. I don't want
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: to mess with anyone else at the wide receiver position
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: in the captain spot. The Buffalo guys. Man, I don't
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: know what to make of the situation. Coleman, Shakir, Samuel Hollins.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: Hollin's got a lot of work in the red zone
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: last week. It definitely stood out to me. Did find
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: h did find the end zone? He's sixteen hundred Shakir
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: and Coleman similarly similar price and projected similar What was
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: the deal with Curtis Samuel? Like did he was he
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: not playing much last week or.
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: Just didn't getting He's been injured in the preseason. So
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: they slowly, slowly, slowly worked them.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: But twenty the snaps, Yeah, that's a big question.
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: Short week.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe he's a fade here, like maybe just what's
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: his price fifty four? Yeah, I mean I probably will
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: end up fading him. So Coleman, Shakir, mac Collin's good
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: with good with those guys. Miami just tough outside of Tyreek,
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: Kill and Model. I mean, those those are the guys.
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: They get a large large majority of the targets Braxton
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: Barrios at twelve hundred, I guess I don't hate that
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: twelve hundred. Yeah, I could play him as well. So
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: I'll be mixing these guys in in Josh Allen Captain teams,
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: like you can definitely run naked. But I don't mind,
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: you know, one of these guys, I don't think I
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: want to to be honest with you, though, I don't
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: think I want more than two pass catchers for.
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: For Josh Allen Captain teams.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: We'll talk about King Cave in a minute, but I
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: just find it hard to believe. Find it hard to
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: find the scenario where multiple of these buffalo wide receivers
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: are optimal in the flex. So it'll be probably max
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: one on a large majority of teams. Preference is probably Shakir.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: I think he can just do more sixty two hundred.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: But fine with Coleman, fine with Mac Collins, probably fading
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: Samuel Barrios, I'm good with MBS. Still sucks. They did.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: They did throw a deep bomb to him. I don't
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: even think it was particularly close. Maybe the ball wasn't catchable,
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: but I remember seeing a bomb to him. But I
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: just I can't do MBS. It's tilting that he's even
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: in the NFL still like he's just he's done nothing,
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: Like he's literally done nothing ever, and teams continue to
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: give him a chance. It's wild to me. Now he's
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: definitely going to catch like a sixty our touchdown and
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna get slimed like Cambo did earlier,
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: right in the face after his touchdown.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: But I'm getting mine out of the way early. I'm
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: saving the mine's done. I can't get five the night
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: on the in the actual streets. It was on the camera,
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: so we're good.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: But the Bills and Under was the official. The undertook
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: off when we asked for it again. So the YouTube
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: chat is on the Bills to win, because it wasn't
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: just the spread.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: You don't get no spread on this show. It's the winner.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: So Bills and Under is what they took. So we'll
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: see how it goes.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: But if you're thinking about building out some of your lineups,
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: go with that or avoid it if you want to
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: avoid the you know it's zero to three right now.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: And NBS, that's Juju when he was playing the other night,
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: Juju almost caught that touchdown after we didn't want nothing
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: to do with him, Thankfully he didn't. What if MBS
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: does different than that tonight, it's gonna be pretty tilting,
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: especially after Lizard getting two last game.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: If these dudes.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: Keep coming in and finding their way, it's not gonna
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: be a good good season for your boy over here.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: But I'll let you take it away title and then again,
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: just back to this one. I like this side. NAIs
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: and I are flip flop on sides, but I like
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: this one because with Alan up top specifically. That's what
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: I was trying to say earlier about those two fours,
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: Like if I just go Alan and Coleman, and Coleman's
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: the one dude, Alan runs one in and you know,
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: it gets sixty five on the ground and some yards
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: through the air and maybe he gets a second touchdown
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: later or something. I don't know, Like that's how I'm
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: setting it up. Then I can get the condensed guys
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: in on the other side. I think those builds are
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: a little bit interesting for tonight and make a lot
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: of sense to me. So I definitely like that call there,
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: especially if it's allan up top title.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Anything else you want to talk about here? If not,
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: we can keep it rolling.
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I'm pretty much in locks up with Hoop.
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: I'm going to be playing. I obviously like Tyreek and Waddell.
• 40:40
  Speaker 6: I do like Braxon Barrios. He was the wide receiver
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: three and three receiver sets. If he's gonna be on
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: the field for twelve underbucks, you can count me in
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: for sure. The Grant Dubie guy, Robbie Chosen Scantling, Those
• 40:54
  Speaker 6: are all really just one fifty, really really large field
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: stuff you're looking to ship.
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: If I had to pick any of them, I mean, with.
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: All this talk, I guess it really only takes Scantling
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: going down the field and actually catching the ball one,
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: So I guess I would say him over the other guys.
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: But let's hope that's not the case. Buffalo receivers. Yeah,
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: I don't mind that rule by Maids at all. I
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: don't like him how I rank him Keon and Keon's
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: definitely number one, Matt Collins and Shaki are close for
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: number two because of the price, and then after that.
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I'm guess I'm kind of with Hoop.
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: I don't know if I'm gonna hit the full X
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: on Curtis Samuel, but he has a one and a
• 41:34
  Speaker 6: half catch prop he has seven or seventeen and a
• 41:38
  Speaker 6: half yards, Like, that's just stone cold awful for fifty
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: four hundred. So it's clearly Shakir or Coleman won. I'll
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: probably say Matt because of the savings, and then Shakir
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: is how I'll rank Buffalo.
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Matt Collins things interesting because they I mean, they
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: clearly like a role for this guy, and Josh Allen
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: seemed excited to have him out there, so I think
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: mac Collins could be a keep letting it.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was just gonna say that, Yeah, I
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: don't know if this will hold, but he's coming in
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: a much lower ownership it looks like in the flex,
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: and obviously the flex is the spot to look for
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: that we're going to.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: Be trying to use him.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's just unlikely that he's going to end
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: up at the top because of some of the big
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: boys on this slate. The amount you can use in
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: the value he'd have to really go off. But just
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: using them in that flex spot for sixteen hundred, you know,
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: showing up there a little bit more often than it
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: looks like he's gonna be owned, even if his ownership
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: does steam up a little bit, we still have room
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: to breathe there. Like, I feel like he could definitely
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: be a guy. So, like Hoop said, if it ends
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: up being MBS, that just sucks. He's two undred bucks more.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: But I definitely like Hollins. I'll have more of him
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: than than NBS in the pool. On the other if I.
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: Load up on Hollins tonight and MVS catches a bomb
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: like that, that is a scenario. You see those viral
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: videos of dude smashing their TVs, I would consider smashing
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: my fucking TV.
• 42:50
  Speaker 6: If no, we want that video Scali gets sixty five,
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: I need to see Yes, I.
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: Think would not be happy, but I mean I would
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: consider doing it.
• 43:00
  Speaker 6: Just point at that big poster right next to it,
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: at that million say yeah, that song's.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: Going back thirty three to one. First touchdown, MBS. You
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: want to get a bet in there?
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: There you go poor.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: You can cover it.
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: Off your hedge. There's our hedge opportunity right there.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: Plus eight hundred, I think is any time, so you
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: can just jam the plus eight hundred.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: If he gets it, you'll feel pretty good.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: Your whole portfolio is probably dead, but you've got some
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: money coming back. You won't be completely out the money,
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: and then you'll make the bet as well. So I
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: don't know much.
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: Aids is dropping the knowledge. I mean, fifty eight percent
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: of the smaster Hollins last week, that's that's legit, man
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: like Hollins. Holland's is the play.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Hollands, you know what was Barrios to. I don't
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: know if he has the numbers up there. I think
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: it was thirty seven percent looks like so I don't know.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: He's twelve hundred on the other.
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: Side of two wide receiver stuff the Dolphins, So he's
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: not out there. Robbie chosen, got chosen, the chosen one.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: Use it's a good segue. What happened to Kincaid last week?
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: That's that's the key and the bounce back spot is here.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: We obviously have him as a high upside. We know
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: what he's capable of. There was some talk today in
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: the discord about or yesterday I guess about like him
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: and knocks together. But again on a showdown site, there's
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: just not a chance I'm avoiding it for what the
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: capabilities are, the potential, all of that stuff. So maybe
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: title I'll let you start, but talk take us through
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: tight end and then any consideration for like Kinkaid.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: The other three seem pretty pretty tight, like I wouldn't
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: really want to go there, but Kinkaid, if you want
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: to put him up top, I think is definitely an
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: option as well. He was getting double triple team, like
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: Wombat says here, that was true for sure if you
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: looked up some of the numbers.
• 44:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I watched saw a video on Twitter this morning yesterday.
• 44:43
  Speaker 6: They had four Cardinals around him for one of the plays, like, yeah,
• 44:46
  Speaker 6: you're not gonna have a very good game with four
• 44:48
  Speaker 6: dudes on you. And the thing with Kinkaid, and it's
• 44:51
  Speaker 6: it's more so to do with just Tyreek Josh Allen
• 44:55
  Speaker 6: and then the value we have. But this mid range
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: is just debt, like he won't be played because people
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: will find the fourteen hundred up to waddle this cook
• 45:04
  Speaker 6: to chain all of that, and then you go below
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: like Kean Coleman at five eight, I think people would
• 45:09
  Speaker 6: rather take the savings, maybe even one kid for Shakir,
• 45:12
  Speaker 6: he's just in a dead range coming off a bad game,
• 45:15
  Speaker 6: like it's I have to play him. I'm like I'm
• 45:17
  Speaker 6: forced twenty percent in the flex two percent in the
• 45:20
  Speaker 6: Captain were showing he was like the third tight end
• 45:23
  Speaker 6: drafted in Best Ball and stuff this year. Yeah, I
• 45:27
  Speaker 6: hope he has a big game because I will be
• 45:28
  Speaker 6: overweight two kincaid. The other ones outside of him, and
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: the Dolphins are so tilting. They're running a three. You
• 45:35
  Speaker 6: see John new Smith, you see smite there. They also
• 45:38
  Speaker 6: have this guy named Julian Hill, Like, I don't know
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: what the heck they're doing John, who's by far the
• 45:43
  Speaker 6: most athletic, and they brought him over so he would
• 45:47
  Speaker 6: be my preferred play if I had to pick from
• 45:48
  Speaker 6: the Dolphins guys, but they're all probably like, I'm gonna
• 45:52
  Speaker 6: probably set a max ten percent.
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: I'll I want to probably set a rule.
• 45:57
  Speaker 6: Max one of them and then just mix and match
• 46:01
  Speaker 6: low own plays and chalk your lineups and just hope
• 46:03
  Speaker 6: one of them finds their way there. As far as
• 46:05
  Speaker 6: Dawson Knox, they've ran a decent amount of two receivers
• 46:09
  Speaker 6: set or two tight end sets one touchdowns, like plus
• 46:12
  Speaker 6: five point fifty, which is even better than some of
• 46:14
  Speaker 6: those other Bills wide receivers. Kind of the same sentiment,
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: but he's twenty six hundred. I don't know At the
• 46:21
  Speaker 6: end of the day, Conkate is by far the best.
• 46:22
  Speaker 6: All the other guys are cheeks, but we're playing a
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: showdown one game slate and if they find the box
• 46:28
  Speaker 6: at that price, they're all leverage off of guys like
• 46:30
  Speaker 6: Wilson and stuff like that.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: So no strongly anything, you got to add their who.
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: The only way I like the Dolphins tight ends is
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: if you're playing to a captain. If you're playing a
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: to a captain team, I think that's where these guys
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: can have the most value, where if they catch a touchdown,
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: it's good because you have two in the captain. You're
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: getting you know, more than you know double points there.
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: So two a captain is where I look at those
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: Miami guys. I don't have a ton of interest like
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: I'll I could potentially expost these get these guys out,
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: or I'll definitely be capping, Like the amount of ownership,
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: I get it, and I probably don't get it. Get
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: a ton to be honest, like cycling in three guys.
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: Let's say Jeff Wilson does get a majority of the work.
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: You have to imagine or a good chunk of work.
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: You have to imagine these guys are in there blocking.
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I just don't love any of those guys.
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: Kinkaid though, great bounce back candidate. Like, for sure, if
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: he has a big game last week against Arizona, his
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: ownership is probably massive in this spot. But you know
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: they're a triple quadruple team in the guy like, of
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: course he's not gonna have a good game, I'll be
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: going back to him in a big way, especially in
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen captain teams. And then Knock I'm fine with
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: as well. Knowing I'm gonna be playing a lot of
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen captain. I want to definitely mix in some Knocks.
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: Got some red zone targets last week, so I think
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: he's a great play at twenty six hundred. So the
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: only way I'm interested in Miami tight end stuff is
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: if it is if you are going to play two
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: apt in teams, and I don't think I'm gonna have any.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: Of those, that's where they would fit in. They'd be
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: the guy just to round it out, make it work.
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: Like I said, I'd want to overstack it. If I
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: was going to it to say like this, it keeps
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: coming up again, I just I would have to go
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: look it up myself just to be like, I get
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: what people are saying. Like literally, the last game he
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: played them, there was no fantasy points score barely anywhere.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: He had seven for eighty two and a touchdown. That's
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: thirty plus up top eighteen yard shy of the bonus
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: to pop it up even further, like, I don't know
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: what people are taking these sample size soil.
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: If people want to, if you want to play this
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: slight like that, you're entitled to, and that means you
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: should probably have a shit ton of Jalen Wattle captain, Like,
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: if you firmly believe that the Bills can shut down Tyreek,
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: you should have ty Jalen Wattle massive ownership in the
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: camp and you should have a chain massive ownership in
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: the captain, Like that's what you should be doing if
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: you truly believe Tyreek's gonna get shut down by the Bills,
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: which I obviously am not concerned.
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: I also lost Boyer mikeh like you can't.
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: And a lot of the games in Buffalo later in
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: the year when the weather is really shitty. Miami's offense
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: sucks in cold weather. We've seen it for years now.
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: They just can't perform it's gonna be nice. I mean,
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: it's gonna be a nice, solid temperature tonight, and like
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: I think they can. They can, definitely. I don't think
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: I'm not concerned with the matchup for Tyreek one bit.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: And he's still gonna have ownership. So it's not even
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: like that. It's not like it's some sneaky dude. It's Tyreek.
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying when people we're trying to help people
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: get better at the game of DFS, and when people
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: look at it from a perspective of like not even
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: in this week, there's already people chopping it up for
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: the main slate talking about last week's snapcounts, talk about
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: one week sample coming off. Some guys didn't play preseason,
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: some did. All of this is just not worth doing.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: We don't even put our DVP rankings up on the
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: site till week five because we want to get an
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: actual sample in there before we can use them. And
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: that's kind of the point in setting it all up.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: So just especially in a one game single slates, remembering this.
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: You have but again, if you want to play that
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: read and then you feel strongly about that, like building
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: your teams tonight should be super easy. And again you're
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: entitled to play however you want. But if you think
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: Tyree can't perform against the Bills, you know what you
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: need to do. It's a ton of wattle. It's a
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: ton of a chain in the captain.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like this, justin you're always in here. You're a
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: good dude. Man. I know you're on stat muse. I'm
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: on it too. Like we're looking at the same thing.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: It's everyone has the same numbers.
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: You're talking about twenty seventeen, twenty twenty three of the
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: four five of the games are from twenty twenty two
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: or before, and again you're you're looking for a stat
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: to make your story work.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: Eighty he never had more than eighty two yards. No,
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: that game.
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: He had eighty two yards, seven catches, which are seven
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: points on DraftKings, and a touchdown which is six more
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: and you put them at the captain get one and
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: a half x. It was a thirty point performance. Pretty
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: sure a lot of people are going to take thirty
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: point performances tonight on a showdown slate in the captain slot.
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: So not against you in general, but just trying to
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: help people learn stop looking at that stuff. Seven years
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: ago you know from seven results from over the last.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: Three to three four years.
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: Like, it's not it doesn't matter totally, different quarterbacks, different teams,
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: different personnel, just you know again or keep looking at it.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, we're trying to take these tournaments down and
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: that's what I'm gonna focus on. So kicker and defense hoop,
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: we can move to that. My my take on tight
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: end was already said. But I'm gonna play Kincaid up top.
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: If they do keep doubling him, then it's not gonna
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: work out. Knocks in the flex is fine, but you
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: can talk about kicker and defense hoop.
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: Well, you guys know what I'm doing with defense again,
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: I don't really need to spend any time. I'm just
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: running it. Whatever I get I get. I think the
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: most I've had for defense this year is like twelve
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: twelve percent, and it's worked out well so far. I mean,
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: at some point one of these defenses will probably go off.
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: We haven't seen it yet, you know, through through week one.
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: But I keep the same strategy more weeks than not,
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: and this will definitely more games than not. For for Showdown,
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: this will be no different. Whatever I get I get kickers,
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: I will you know, finally we had the big game
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: for for Moody absolutely went off six field goals. The
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: kickers are just too cheap and their ownership has legged behind.
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: I'd say in that first week, I'm making sure I
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: get over the field on these kickers, and both are fine.
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: You know, Sanders is fine, Fast is fine. So yeah,
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: that's kind of where I'm at. Kicker defensive.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that call.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: I think the only way is, you know, setting it
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: up you talked about Josh Allen can make some mistakes.
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: I actually don't mind Dolphins in the captain just because
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: that'd be another way, and especially if Aham was ruled
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: out and it becomes Wilson up top at thirty six hundred,
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: you can get the Dolphins for forty five hundred. It
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: would just change the bill just a little bit, and
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: then it would be a setup where you know everyone's
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: on that. You could still put Wilson into the flex
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: and just hope we get some you know, even the
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: other night, it was Moody was up top a bunch
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: before it was Mason. It just was obviously the later
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: in the game it got, the more Mason got it.
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: It could happen though it definitely could happen. So I
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: think that's hard.
• 52:55
  Speaker 5: It was ours last TV swung at all, somebody was
• 52:57
  Speaker 5: sitting solo Millie for Yeah.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right too.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So I mean there was opportunity the other night
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: that that's what swung it for sure. Title your thoughts
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: on I think, like Hoop said it best, both the
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: kickers look pretty good here and then obviously the defenses.
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: But just what maybe going back to captain for a second,
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: do it any chance you put those guys up top.
• 53:16
  Speaker 6: I was waiting for you to get slimed when you
• 53:17
  Speaker 6: said you're putting Dolphins at captain.
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: You're winning a solo million if that happens.
• 53:22
  Speaker 6: Not for me, but I do like Dolphins D in
• 53:24
  Speaker 6: the flex the one case savings from Bills and Josh
• 53:27
  Speaker 6: Allen can make mistakes.
• 53:28
  Speaker 5: So everything you're.
• 53:29
  Speaker 6: Saying one hundred percent is why I'm playing him in
• 53:31
  Speaker 6: the flex. I rarely put him at captain. A lot
• 53:35
  Speaker 6: of people like it to do it for screenshots a lot.
• 53:37
  Speaker 6: There's still probably one percent, but you see it all
• 53:39
  Speaker 6: the time. No hot take. I think Dolphins D a
• 53:42
  Speaker 6: lot better than Bill's D for the savings, and Josh
• 53:44
  Speaker 6: can make mistakes, Kickers. They both look very fine at
• 53:48
  Speaker 6: their ownership, and I guess kind of whatever I get
• 53:51
  Speaker 6: at Kickers is kind of like who, like, I'll do
• 53:53
  Speaker 6: that with Kickers. If I get twenty five percent, I'm in.
• 53:56
  Speaker 6: If I twelve percent, I'm also fine with that, so
• 53:58
  Speaker 6: they can do whatever.
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was trying to see like on the early run,
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: we didn't really do a dry run today. I don't
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: know if you had one up over there, Hoop, but
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: we we got.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: A little bit of time.
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: We're gonna go to FanDuel quick as only about five
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: minutes left, but if you if you had it, I
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: didn't know what was actually coming up. But we have
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: the ownership, So I was kind of using that as
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: the angle in today. But I think the Dolphins, like
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: I said, the bills if they get up top, but
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: mostly Dolphins and then Kickers just to get your bills
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: a little bit different, especially if we ended up getting
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: a guy like Wilson popular at the captain. So final
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: thoughts here, your your fandual thoughts, anything else you want
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: to talk about there from your side of things.
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, fandual thoughts, and I got these teams running right now.
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: So the initial run takes a tad bit longer, So
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: I'll do FanDuel first and then I'll get to the
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: initial run and see where we're at. Yeah, on one
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: thing that stands out definitely on FanDuel, i'd say is
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: Tua's price tag fourteen k for him seems seems pretty cheap.
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: Or the quarterbacks definitely have an advantage, and I'd definitely
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: be more prone to playing to MVP opposed to to captain.
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: Don't love the Tua captain play, but I am fine
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: with the two MVP play on FanDuel. The price and
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: the fact that the quarterbacks just have the advantage without
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: the full PPR. A chain has a cheap price tag
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: twelve five for him. Kin Kid under ten k at
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: ninety five hundred, I love him, especially if you're going
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen MVP Jeff Wilson sixty five hundred, he'll be
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: very popular. Both defenses are eighty five, both kickers are
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: nine k. And then in terms of the cheap plays,
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: Jalen Wright is fifty five hundred, so close to a
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: full punt on him. And there's just a bunch of
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: guys down between the six and sevens. It's all those
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: wide receivers mac Collins at eight K, Dawson Knox seven K.
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: I think that's a fine option, tyd Johnson six K.
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: So the two things that definitely stand out. I think
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: two is a little bit too cheap over there. Kin
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: Kid at ninety five hundred stands out as a strong option.
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: So those are the two things that that stand out.
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: In terms of the initial dry run. It's kind of
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: what you'd expect. It's Josh Allen Tua gets up there,
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen Tua and then Tyreek and that's thirty, twenty
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: eight and twenty one percent.
• 56:21
  Speaker 5: Then we see.
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: Eight Chain come in at ten, Jeff Wilson at five,
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: and then just some kind of sprinkles of James Cook
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: mac hollin. So it's Josh Allen to in Kyreek a
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: chain if you're just doing the dry run, that are
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: showing up in the majority of teams, and that's basically
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: what ownership is showing as well. So he finds right
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: up with ownership. Essentially.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: The chat didn't know this one from earlier. This is
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: the Ramsey talk just got brought up. But Bill's quarterback
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: Josh Allen owns a perfect five and zero record against Ramsey.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: Ramsey teams.
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: So it's been you know, other teams in the past,
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: but just going up against him in the chat was
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: talking m coleman or Hollins or it could be Shakir anybody.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: You never know. How it gets switched out back there,
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: it's probably one of those two. But just to note it,
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: I would say that's.
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: Kind of another one, and just title before you give
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: any final thoughts, here's how content works. This is a
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: funny one, just going back to it because I spent
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: more time now that the check got.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: Me fired up. Tyree sucks against the Bills, or you
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: could say it like this.
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: Two of the last three games, Tyreek Hill went nine
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: for thirteen and a touchdown against the Bills and seven
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: for thirteen seven on thirteen for a touchdown. So two
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: of the last three games he's got thirteen targets, seven
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: to nine catches and a touchdown both games. Again, it's
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: all sample size, what you frame it up, or if
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: it even matters at all. The bottom line is showdown.
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: None of this stuff matters. We're all playing the same game,
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: we'll all got the same salaries, we all can set
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: it up the way we want. So lots of different
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: things that you can do, and we cover it all
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: more over at ship at Nation title.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: Any FANDUL thoughts, if not final thoughts.
• 57:52
  Speaker 6: The Fandal thoughts is you go check the stone you
• 57:55
  Speaker 6: see Josh Allen, you go all the way to the
• 57:57
  Speaker 6: right forty eight percent. MV have a plan if you're
• 58:01
  Speaker 6: playing this to ship it with ten people or less,
• 58:04
  Speaker 6: probably full fade Josh Allen, I really like the two
• 58:07
  Speaker 6: would call it MVP. I do think he's more viable
• 58:09
  Speaker 6: there than Captain on DK. Tyreek can outscore him, a
• 58:13
  Speaker 6: chain can out score him, and at the end of
• 58:15
  Speaker 6: the day, James Cook, I could see if Josh Allen
• 58:18
  Speaker 6: does completely bust he has no rushing touchdowns. James Cook
• 58:22
  Speaker 6: runs in two that two percent right there. That is
• 58:25
  Speaker 6: how you ship whatever it is on Fandal today two
• 58:28
  Speaker 6: hunderd K whatever all my GPP actions on DK, it's
• 58:32
  Speaker 6: always going to be that way for Showdown, because I
• 58:34
  Speaker 6: really think Fandal needs to get the NBA MVP, the star,
• 58:38
  Speaker 6: the one point five, the one to two. You'll do
• 58:41
  Speaker 6: something different like not making you pay one point five
• 58:44
  Speaker 6: that's or something for your MVP only five spots. Obviously
• 58:48
  Speaker 6: DK is a better product that way. But yeah, the
• 58:50
  Speaker 6: MVP wants to do with Josh Allen otherwise, Who've covered
• 58:53
  Speaker 6: it great? Yeah, and I like your thoughts. I like
• 58:56
  Speaker 6: when check gets you Randle riled up, Tambo the energy.
• 58:59
  Speaker 6: You're always the but you even get it more. But
• 59:01
  Speaker 6: like you said, it's showdown. It's one game. Throw everything
• 59:05
  Speaker 6: out like correlation that, this than that, because that's how
• 59:08
  Speaker 6: people build their lineups. At the end of the day,
• 59:10
  Speaker 6: you want to split with less least amount of people
• 59:12
  Speaker 6: as possible. The way to do that is thinking outside
• 59:15
  Speaker 6: the box, leaving salary, looking at the ownership mixing in.
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: Oh, you have a Jeff Wilson lineup with all the chalk.
• 59:21
  Speaker 6: Who else is around the Jeff Wilson price tagg at
• 59:24
  Speaker 6: twenty four hundred, who's less Jalen Wright, John new Smith, Smite,
• 59:29
  Speaker 6: et cetera.
• 59:29
  Speaker 5: Stuff like that. So what a great edition we had
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: this year with the stone from the gym.
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna do one more thing on it before
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: Hoop goes final. But this is a note. Hn just
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: posted a pick on his Instagram, so said it's on.
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: Sounds like he's gonna be good to roll. I want
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: to answer Jeffrey's question real quick, just to say like,
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: I'll leave that because Hoo will probably have extra thoughts
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: on it, so I'll throw it up in a second.
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: But I wanted to point out what title said too.
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: We have MVP ownership projections. Again, it's hard to gauge
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: on FanDuel, especially slates like this. We get as close
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: as we possibly can, but just you can see it already,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: like look at the delta between Tua and Alan. Look
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: at the delta between Cook and Alan. What a somehow
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: he does get in there. And then that's the other
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: thing about the stone I like too, Title good call
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: out is look at the flex optimal for James Cook.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: It's actually negative leverage.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: It's like he's he's coming in higher owned than the flex,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: which is obvious. But he still looks pretty good. And
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: if you wanted to get different up at the top,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: moving to James Cook at the captain, even if it
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: is a Cook Alan with four bills line four dolphins
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: line up in your lineup, that's a two four what
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: we talked about earlier, and you just hope that it's
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: him running it in twice and Alan only gets it
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: once and maybe one of them is or he gets
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: two touchdown. Sorry, maybe one is a checkdown. So anything
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: like that is a way that you could set it up.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: I would still play Wilson myself, especially if it's just
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: flex or what I mean, it doesn't really matter because
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: it's not price prohibitive, like they're both super cheap.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: I would not rule myself out of that, and then
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: I'll let Whop take this when I.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: Round it over to him.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: But if you're playing the you know, when we talk
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: about this ship nation, the biggest thing is contest selection,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: bankroll management, sustainability of being able to be there for
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: your big hit.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: If you can't.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: Play the Millie or don't want to play the Milli,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: or you feel like you're gonna be an underdog in
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: the Milli and you want to play some better tournaments,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: I would highly recommend that.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: Just don't be hard on yourself after if you ship it.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: So many good people in the discord are getting thirty
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: forty fifty x back on their money at times on
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: these returns in the smaller field, you know, winning the
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: tournament and they know that lineup would have won them
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: three grand, five grand somewhere else, but they're taking it
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: for what it is. The return that they were trying
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: to get They were trying to ship the tournament that
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: they were in, and they were in that tournament because
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: it's better for them long term to stick around, to
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: grow their bankroll and then find it on another night
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: when they start getting into these bigger tournaments.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: Hoop anything you want to add.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 6: One thing before you go to Hoop, because that's right
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 6: what you said first night, the likely captain.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: When you had Worthy and him flipped, you.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 6: Wont seven hundred and fifty bucks in the million with
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 6: the second nuts seven to fifty seven whatever it was.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 6: People are twenty five hundred and a lot of other
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 6: tournaments for less money because there's a lot smaller chop.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 6: No one had the likely team that left four k
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 6: plus or whatever.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: So I'll let Whop talk about that.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: That was me.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: I won the fleet Flicker for four grand, you know too?
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I five that single entry to twenty two
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 6: hundred or whatever. There's multiple people in the other contests,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 6: so I think that's all that really needs to be
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 6: said to answer that question.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: With all that, Who've taken it?
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: With any you want to add who if not? You
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: can give us your final thoughts and we'll.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: Get out of here. Yeah, same points that you guys made.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: I mean it's tough. I mean, there's no doubt about it.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: It's tough to look at the contest and see the
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: one that says a million to first, and then you know,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: look down and see the one that says one hundred
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: thousand to first or whatever it is, and say, you
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: know what, I'm gonna go for the one that says
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: one hundred thousand. I get it. But man, more times
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: than not, it is the smart move. Not everyone could
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: play one fifty, obviously, I mean I totally get that.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: I mean it takes a lot of money and whatnot
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: to get into those. If you're only building one or
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: two teams, like, definitely find a three match contest, Like
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: you're at such a massive disadvantage if you take those
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: two and put in the Millimaker contests. You really want to.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: I always say, you want to get as close as
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: you can to maxing out whatever sort of contest you're
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: getting in. So if you're building two to three teams,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: you should definitely be in those three max contests. It's
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: just it's the way to go, There's no doubt about it.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: So if you still want the upside for a big win.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: Maybe uh, get in the three three max contests and
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: go buy yourself like a lot of ticket or something
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: for the night. You still have the upside to win
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: the million the millions of dollars. You just really want
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: to focus on getting in contests where you can come
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: close to max, even if you're building twenty teams, Like
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: if you're gonna build twenty teams tonight, instead of taking
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: those and jamming them in the millionmaker, put in the
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: twenty max contest. If you have to decide between the two,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: that's just you know, something that I think I feel
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: very strongly about. I think a lot of people should
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: should kind of take have that mentality as well. And
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: I get it.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 5: It's tough.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: It's tough to look at those million dollars top prizes
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: and say, you know what I'm gonna get in this
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: contest instead of the million dollar one. But in the
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: longer run, trust me, you're going to be better off.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're not maxing it.
• 1:04:01
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• 1:04:03
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• 1:04:06
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• 1:04:08
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• 1:05:17
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