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- 0:00SPEAKER_00: Welcome to the Wesley Word.
- 0:14SPEAKER_00: Hi everyone, and welcome back to Humans of Wesley.
- 0:17SPEAKER_00: Today I'm joined by Gracie Pope.
- 0:18SPEAKER_01: Hi Bailey, what's up?
- 0:20SPEAKER_00: But this is not Gracie's episode of Humans of Wesley.
- 0:24SPEAKER_00: So one thing I am looking forward to this season of our podcast is revamping the Humans of Wesley episodes a little bit, making them a little bit less structured, hopefully a little bit more conversational, casual, get to know people a little bit better and not just recite facts about them.
- 0:44SPEAKER_00: And so, in the spirit of mixing it up completely, Gracie is going to ask me questions about me.
- 0:51SPEAKER_00: So I'll be the first one to be grilled in this new format.
- 0:55SPEAKER_00: So I guess take it away.
- 0:57SPEAKER_01: Dun dun dun.
- 1:00SPEAKER_01: Okay, Bailey.
- 1:01SPEAKER_01: So tell I guess everyone knows that you're a grad student, right?
- 1:06SPEAKER_01: Like what like tell us about you, I guess.
- 1:08SPEAKER_00: Okay, actually, before we start, you've been on the podcast once before on one of Lauren's Let's Talk episodes.
- 1:14SPEAKER_00: But in case people don't know who you are, can you introduce yourself?
- 1:18SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, that's a great idea.
- 1:19SPEAKER_01: So my name's Gracie Pope.
- 1:20SPEAKER_01: I am a super senior.
- 1:22SPEAKER_01: I will graduate in December with my degree in industrial engineering.
- 1:25SPEAKER_01: Um I happen to be dating the guy that's sitting across from me.
- 1:29SPEAKER_01: Um that's a little bit goofy.
- 1:31SPEAKER_01: But yeah, happy to be here.
- 1:33SPEAKER_00: And then for me to introduce myself again, I guess, really quick.
- 1:38SPEAKER_00: Uh my name is Bailey Meehan.
- 1:40SPEAKER_00: I am a third-year PhD candidate in materials science and engineering.
- 1:44SPEAKER_00: And I am the producer and editor of this podcast.
- 1:48SPEAKER_01: So, Bailey, what's the deal with glass?
- 1:51SPEAKER_00: What's the deal with glass?
- 1:53SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:53SPEAKER_01: Why why are you sticking around to play with glass?
- 1:58SPEAKER_00: So, okay, root of the question here, right?
- 2:01SPEAKER_00: Why did I stay at Clemson for grad school?
- 2:04SPEAKER_00: I did not want to.
- 2:05SPEAKER_00: I didn't even want to come to Clemson at all for school because I've lived here my entire life.
- 2:10SPEAKER_00: So I told myself I would come to Clemson for undergrad because it was free, and then I would go somewhere really cool for grad school.
- 2:20SPEAKER_00: Um, obviously I did not do that.
- 2:22SPEAKER_00: Um, the reason I stayed is because I started working with a professor here at Clemson, Dr.
- 2:27SPEAKER_00: John Bellato, who is a great mentor and advisor, and does a lot of really awesome projects and generally very successful.
- 2:39SPEAKER_00: So I it was the best opportunity for me going forwards.
- 2:43SPEAKER_00: Um and I just happen to think the research is really cool.
- 2:45SPEAKER_00: It happens to be with glass.
- 2:47SPEAKER_00: I mean, glass is cool.
- 2:49SPEAKER_00: I I didn't choose this job because I'm like, oh yeah, glass, let's go.
- 2:54SPEAKER_00: Um it's just really neat science.
- 2:57SPEAKER_00: And the way that light interacts with materials is super cool.
- 3:00SPEAKER_00: I feel like light is a very kind of ethereal, otherworldly entity to most people.
- 3:08SPEAKER_00: It's very kind of symbolic in our culture, I guess.
- 3:11SPEAKER_00: So I think the fact that we can harness light and use it as a tool to do all kinds of stuff is really neat.
- 3:16SPEAKER_00: And we happen to use glass to do that.
- 3:18SPEAKER_01: So you've known your advisor, Dr.
- 3:20SPEAKER_01: Balato, for a long time, right?
- 3:22SPEAKER_01: Where did you meet?
- 3:25SPEAKER_00: I don't know exactly the first time we met.
- 3:28SPEAKER_00: Um, we went to the same church when I was growing up, um, but I don't know if I actually met him at church the first time.
- 3:36SPEAKER_00: Um, so for the first eight years of my life, my mom was a stay-at-home mom.
- 3:40SPEAKER_00: She uh stopped working to raise me.
- 3:42SPEAKER_00: And I'm an only child.
- 3:44SPEAKER_00: Um, and so she wanted me to have some social experiences, meet some other kids.
- 3:49SPEAKER_00: Um, I really think it was just an excuse for all of the stay-at-home moms in Clemson to get together and hang out and drink coffee and throw all the kids in a room and be like, try not to die while we, you know, don't worry about you for a little bit.
- 4:02SPEAKER_00: Um, but included in that group were, well, I mean, living in Clemson, pretty much everyone's parent is a professor at the university.
- 4:12SPEAKER_00: Um, so there were a lot of people that happened to work with Dr.
- 4:15SPEAKER_00: Balato.
- 4:16SPEAKER_00: Um and so we got connected with material science and comset that way.
- 4:24SPEAKER_00: But I'm not sure exactly where the first time I actually met him.
- 4:28SPEAKER_00: Anyway, long story short, I've known him pretty much my entire life.
- 4:31SPEAKER_00: Um we toured the lab that I work in now with my Cub Scout, Dan, when I was in like fourth grade.
- 4:39SPEAKER_00: I job shadowed Dr.
- 4:40SPEAKER_00: Velato in the seventh grade for some career education stuff.
- 4:44SPEAKER_00: So um, yeah, I've been involved with this for a long time, but it just worked out to be it just happens that it's like the best lab in the world for what we work on.
- 4:55SPEAKER_00: So that's a pretty cool opportunity.
- 4:57SPEAKER_01: Yeah, definitely.
- 4:58SPEAKER_00: Um perks for growing up in Clemson, I guess.
- 5:01SPEAKER_01: So you mentioned that you met Dr.
- 5:02SPEAKER_01: Balato at church.
- 5:04SPEAKER_01: I hear that you are actually Catholic and not a Methodist.
- 5:07SPEAKER_01: How did you end up at Wesley?
- 5:10SPEAKER_00: Well, when I was growing up, um our Catholic Church was part of a group of Catholic churches, I guess.
- 5:20SPEAKER_00: And they didn't have a super active youth group.
- 5:23SPEAKER_00: Um, we had like one youth group for this whole group of Catholic churches in the area, and it was over in Seneca, and we weren't gonna drive over there to do a youth group.
- 5:31SPEAKER_00: Um, and meanwhile, uh the CUMC youth group led by Jad Taylor was absolutely fantastic.
- 5:40SPEAKER_00: I had a ton of friends that went, um, and quite a few of them didn't come from families that went to CUMC.
- 5:47SPEAKER_00: Um, so there were just a lot of kids in Clemson that went to the CUMC youth group.
- 5:51SPEAKER_00: It was a very welcoming place, like Wesley.
- 5:53SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, lots of connections with Wesley, obviously.
- 5:57SPEAKER_00: So had a similar vibe and um very open to all the kids, very approachable.
- 6:04SPEAKER_00: Um, no matter what your religious background was or how comfortable you felt with it, you're always welcome at the youth group.
- 6:12SPEAKER_00: Um, and so Jad got me hooked up with the Wesley folks when I came to Clemson, and I haven't looked back, I guess.
- 6:19SPEAKER_01: Sweet.
- 6:20SPEAKER_01: So you've obviously been around for a couple Halloween at Clemson, um, specifically at Wesley.
- 6:27SPEAKER_01: What's been your favorite, like iconic Wesley Halloween costume?
- 6:32SPEAKER_00: Iconic Wesley Halloween costume?
- 6:35SPEAKER_00: Like of someone else?
- 6:36SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
- 6:38SPEAKER_00: Um I mean, I guess the most unforgettable because it was my first Halloween at Wesley, was all of the So I was a freshman at the time, sophomore girls um dressed up as different Taylor Swifts, and they got Andrew Randaza to be the original Taylor Swift um in a wig and dress and guitar and stuff.
- 6:58SPEAKER_00: That was fun.
- 6:59SPEAKER_00: Um, there have been some really good ones.
- 7:02SPEAKER_01: Um I heard the Steves um at one point.
- 7:06SPEAKER_01: I think that was before me.
- 7:07SPEAKER_00: So the class two years older than me, um, when they were all seniors, all dressed up as different Steves from different points in his life, um, which was really funny.
- 7:18SPEAKER_00: Uh they were really close with Steve too, so um, it was extra special.
- 7:23SPEAKER_01: I I remember two girls also doing like an Eno hammock.
- 7:27SPEAKER_01: They dressed up as trees.
- 7:28SPEAKER_01: Well, they were trees, yeah.
- 7:29SPEAKER_01: And then they put an Eno hammock between them, and I thought that was funny.
- 7:34SPEAKER_01: Do you have any plans for your Halloween costume?
- 7:38SPEAKER_00: No, I hate Halloween because I hate having to choose something to dress up as.
- 7:42SPEAKER_01: You're just gonna do what I tell you.
- 7:44SPEAKER_00: I guess.
- 7:49SPEAKER_01: Alright, so we talked a little bit about or okay, so you mentioned being a Boy Scout.
- 7:55SPEAKER_01: Do you feel like there are a million Boy Scouts in Wesley?
- 8:01SPEAKER_00: Um I mean, yeah, I think that might have something to do with just the type of person that comes to Wesley.
- 8:09SPEAKER_00: Um, especially maybe the type of boy that comes to Wesley is uh very kind of Boy Scout-y, whatever that means.
- 8:16SPEAKER_00: Um there's also a disproportionate number of Eagle Scouts, not just Boy Scouts, but people who were went all the way through, which I think is neat.
- 8:24SPEAKER_00: Um which brings up a completely different topic that I think Wesley has or typically has a disproportionate number of high-achieving people, which I think is cool.
- 8:36SPEAKER_00: One thing I like about the group, I mean, you know, the Clemson student body, or each freshman class is something like 10% honors college kids, but Wesley is typically 30 or 40% Wesley, or I mean um honors college kids, which I think is cool.
- 8:49SPEAKER_00: I've always kind of wondered what that was, and I always tried to, you know, pin something to it to figure out why we're really cool or great.
- 8:55SPEAKER_00: I I think it's, you know, let me put on my little like freakonomics hat here.
- 8:59SPEAKER_00: I think uh it probably has like kids that have you know healthy home lives or whatever, that are have you know healthy relationships with the church, who are interested in joining a campus ministry, also have a lot of support and do well in school and extracurricular activities and are successful.
- 9:16SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I feel like it's a correlation, not causation thing, but that makes sense.
- 9:22SPEAKER_01: Um so I know that you love Fall Retreat.
- 9:26SPEAKER_01: So why would it eventually why do you think that Fall Retreat is so great?
- 9:31SPEAKER_00: Um It's one of the first big events we do every year.
- 9:37SPEAKER_00: Um, it's always really well attended.
- 9:40SPEAKER_00: So it's typically the first time you really have the whole group together with all of the new freshmen.
- 9:48SPEAKER_00: Um, everyone really gets to introduce each, introduce themselves to each other and get to know each other.
- 9:54SPEAKER_00: Um it's also just a really low-key event.
- 9:56SPEAKER_00: There's not a ton on the schedule, um, which is really great.
- 10:00SPEAKER_00: So it's it's super relaxing.
- 10:01SPEAKER_00: It's a break from school.
- 10:02SPEAKER_00: It's usually right in the middle of a fall semester.
- 10:05SPEAKER_00: Um, fall semesters are busy anyway because of football season.
- 10:08SPEAKER_00: So it's really nice to be able to take a break, have a few days off, and get to meet all your new friends and have nothing to do but just talk to other Wesley people, hang out with them, get to know them, love on them.
- 10:19SPEAKER_00: So it's my favorite event.
- 10:22SPEAKER_01: So if people are trying to become your best friend and you're like, cool, we're gonna go on a road trip around Clemson because I'm a local and I know everything there is to do, what would be your stops on this road trip?
- 10:35SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 10:36SPEAKER_00: Me being a local makes that difficult because I take everything for granted.
- 10:40SPEAKER_00: Like, I think everything in Clemson is really boring because I've been here forever.
- 10:44SPEAKER_00: And so I one thing I've really enjoyed about being in college here and having so many friends who aren't from here, um, is that everyone reminds me that there's really cool stuff to do.
- 10:54SPEAKER_01: Um like a new freshman.
- 10:56SPEAKER_01: What are the must must-do things?
- 10:59SPEAKER_00: What's my my radius from downtown Clemson that I'm allowed to take them?
- 11:03SPEAKER_01: Um dry like within 30 minutes.
- 11:08SPEAKER_01: But people go to like pretty place and stuff.
- 11:10SPEAKER_01: Like that.
- 11:11SPEAKER_01: That's much farther away from the cloud.
- 11:12SPEAKER_01: I mean, I know I know that's like an hour away, but like I feel like even that kind of counts.
- 11:17SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I mean, obviously there's really cool mountain stuff to do, like pretty place, great hikes.
- 11:23SPEAKER_00: All that's probably a little bit outside of 30 minutes.
- 11:25SPEAKER_00: Um, if I was looking for a cool nature thing in Clemson, I would probably go to Northern Experimental Forest, aka Isaquina.
- 11:34SPEAKER_00: Um, really great hiking, um, really neat trails, picnic shelters, um, little lake, cool stuff to see, great place to get outdoors, hike, run, bike if you have a horse, whatever.
- 11:48SPEAKER_00: Um I mean, obviously botanical gardens and southern experimental forests are good for that too, but Icequin is just a better equipped location, I think.
- 11:58SPEAKER_00: Um obviously the lake is super cool.
- 12:03SPEAKER_00: I'm super fortunate I get to live on the lake and take advantage of that.
- 12:07SPEAKER_00: But even something as simple as Y Beach or rowing docks is super fun.
- 12:12SPEAKER_00: Um Clemson is famous for its sunsets, so if you're out and about something like the dikes, um albeit a bit cliche, is a cool way to see the university or the sunset.
- 12:30SPEAKER_00: Um I mean I feel like all of Clemson's uh cultural stuff is pretty well known amongst students.
- 12:36SPEAKER_00: I mean, things like football and plug for my family's tailgate every home football game.
- 12:44SPEAKER_00: Um Pendleton is really popping off as the cool place to be right now.
- 12:49SPEAKER_00: So I feel like if you're somewhere you wanted to go hang out, the square in Pendleton is kind of was always a little bit run down, but is growing really rapidly right now.
- 12:58SPEAKER_00: It's so expensive to live in Clemson that everyone's moving to Pendleton.
- 13:01SPEAKER_00: Um so lots of cool breweries and restaurants and little shops and cute things to do.
- 13:07SPEAKER_00: I feel like everyone knows about that though.
- 13:10SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but a freshman might not.
- 13:13SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, I feel like the the things that I know about that like a new student wouldn't know about are more the like organizations of people kind of things.
- 13:22SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of like Clemson community groups that get together to like play pickup sports, or like you know, I like to go play Ultimate Frisbee with a group of people I knew from Clemson.
- 13:33SPEAKER_00: So um lots of organizations that do things, dancing, you know, I don't know what else.
- 13:42SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think what I didn't realize when I was a freshman was like how close the other cities were.
- 13:47SPEAKER_01: Like Pendleton's like 10 minutes away, Central's also like 10 minutes away, um, even Seneca's not that far.
- 13:54SPEAKER_01: And I don't I just like living in my little city, like you had to get on the interstate to get to a different city.
- 13:58SPEAKER_01: So um but where would you take where would you take someone on a date?
- 14:08SPEAKER_00: Um I mean how fancy are you talking here?
- 14:12SPEAKER_01: Uh not an anniversary, but not a not a casual date, like something in between.
- 14:21SPEAKER_00: I guess one thing that Clemson's pretty weak in is the kind of slightly upscale restaurants.
- 14:27SPEAKER_00: I think I guess everyone tries to cater to college students and be pretty cheap.
- 14:31SPEAKER_00: Um I'm I mean people like Pixie and Bills.
- 14:37SPEAKER_00: I'm not a huge fan.
- 14:38SPEAKER_00: I think if you're gonna go to one of the Carranzas restaurants, you gotta stick with Calhoun Corners.
- 14:42SPEAKER_00: I know it's more expensive, but it's not that much more expensive.
- 14:45SPEAKER_00: So if you're already shelling out money, you might as well go to Calhoun Corners this way better.
- 14:49SPEAKER_00: Um I mean Blue Heron, obviously, in La Square and Pendleton now.
- 14:56SPEAKER_01: Um where would you take your famous TikTok or girlfriend out on a date?
- 15:02SPEAKER_01: I guess is a better question.
- 15:03SPEAKER_00: I feel like we've kind of used up all of the places in Clemson, so I feel like we would go to Greenville.
- 15:08SPEAKER_00: Throw back to your statement about places being not that far away.
- 15:11SPEAKER_00: Um I felt like as a kid it was always like a huge trek to get to Greenville, but now that I can drive, I'm like, it's like 40 minutes.
- 15:17SPEAKER_00: Like um there's a million places to eat in Greenville and nice places too.
- 15:23SPEAKER_01: So what's the best part about dating at Famous TikToker?
- 15:30SPEAKER_00: Famous importation wires?
- 15:32SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 15:34SPEAKER_00: Um I mean, I'm just excited that you have a cool hobby that you're really invested in too, and I like getting to see all of the cool things that you do.
- 15:44SPEAKER_01: And taking my picture.
- 15:45SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
- 15:46SPEAKER_00: I mean, get to work on my photography skills a little bit.
- 15:49SPEAKER_00: Um, and your interests are something that your TikTok interests at least are something that I know absolutely nothing about, so it's educational to me.
- 15:55SPEAKER_00: I always love learning something new.
- 15:57SPEAKER_01: So our good friend Lauren is also quite active on TikTok.
- 16:01SPEAKER_01: She started the Wesley TikTok, um, which I love.
- 16:05SPEAKER_01: What do you think has been her greatest TikTok so far?
- 16:10SPEAKER_00: Oh, I'm gonna pull up my phone and look at all the Wesley TikToks.
- 16:16SPEAKER_00: I mean, I didn't go, but I think the uh peak of the Wesley TikTok, at least in terms of content or amount of content, was the spring break trip to New Orleans that I didn't go on.
- 16:31SPEAKER_00: Um so that was a neat way for me to keep up with what everyone was doing, and Lauren made them funny, so I enjoyed them.
- 16:39SPEAKER_00: I feel like whenever we go on a trip, people make some funny TikToks.
- 16:43SPEAKER_00: Um I really liked the most recent ones with the protesting the name Wesley Worship in favor of the old even song and the trade-off of ownership when Lauren graduated, but I don't know, they're all good.
- 16:59SPEAKER_01: So I was in protest of TikTok for a long time, um, but I just recently made the jump, and I too, like you, love learning on TikTok.
- 17:10SPEAKER_01: Um, what are some of your favorite sides you've ended up on?
- 17:17SPEAKER_00: I mean, in terms of learning stuff, albeit a bit cliche perhaps.
- 17:24SPEAKER_00: I really enjoy the Brothers Green, right?
- 17:27SPEAKER_00: So Hank and John.
- 17:28SPEAKER_00: Um I've been fans of them for since my friends started reading their books in middle school, probably, and they started doing Vlogbrothers on YouTube and everything.
- 17:36SPEAKER_00: Um I really like Hank Green's content.
- 17:40SPEAKER_00: I feel he has a very kind of similar outlook on life as me.
- 17:45SPEAKER_00: Like I also really enjoy knowing why the world works and communicating it with people, but he does a way better job of being charismatic and people, you know, engaging people that don't typically like science or whatever.
- 17:58SPEAKER_00: I feel like um when I start talking about science, people's eyes just glaze over.
- 18:02SPEAKER_00: So um definitely something I'm striving to get better at.
- 18:06SPEAKER_00: But I feel like most of the stuff I like about TikTok is just the goofy humor stuff.
- 18:11SPEAKER_00: Like I kind of miss the kind of Vine-esque, very short memes.
- 18:18SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
- 18:20SPEAKER_00: The whole sound part of TikTok where you can use reuse sounds is literally designed for memes.
- 18:29SPEAKER_00: So I think it excels in that regard.
- 18:33SPEAKER_01: That's neat.
- 18:34SPEAKER_01: So, Bailey, podcast master, podcast guru podcast.
- 18:41SPEAKER_00: Okay, I'm not that good at it.
- 18:42SPEAKER_00: You can stop saying.
- 18:45SPEAKER_01: Um, what are your hopes for the podcast?
- 18:47SPEAKER_01: I know you want to revamp it a little bit.
- 18:48SPEAKER_01: Um, and you might have already touched on this in a different episode, but just a little snapshot of what you're thinking for the future.
- 18:55SPEAKER_00: Yeah, come on, Grace.
- 18:55SPEAKER_00: You gotta listen to my podcast episodes.
- 18:57SPEAKER_01: Guilty.
- 18:58SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, I mean, in the first episode of this season, we talked a little bit about what we wanted to see for this year, and I feel like um some kind of general themes of what other people want, um, being more student voices, more groups of students.
- 19:17SPEAKER_00: Um interested in um that I talked to you about with Steve a little bit, is content for different demographics, I guess.
- 19:28SPEAKER_00: So um all of the content we made last year ended up pretty much just being for current students.
- 19:34SPEAKER_00: Um, and when I set out to make the podcast, I really wanted it to be a way for alumni, parents, CUMC members, you know, community people to engage with Wesley, people that don't actually get to be in Wesley, um, a way for them to see what we're doing.
- 19:51SPEAKER_00: And maybe it did serve a little bit of that purpose.
- 19:54SPEAKER_00: Um, but I gotta figure out how to make more content aimed at those kind of people.
- 19:59SPEAKER_00: Um obviously I mentioned that I would really like to revamp Humans of Wesley a little bit.
- 20:06SPEAKER_00: I ended up being pretty formulaic uh by the end of the year, and would really like those to be, you know, more interesting or more personable.
- 20:15SPEAKER_01: So if someone wants to become your friend, I feel like in Humans of Wesley fashion, um look who's listening.
- 20:25SPEAKER_01: What kinds of things would you like for people to reach out to you about doing together?
- 20:30SPEAKER_00: Um I mean, I guess just in general, just because I'm a grad student, like I feel like people think I'm scary or too busy for them or something.
- 20:41SPEAKER_00: Um, and I am a very busy person, but I would always love to hang out with people, get something to eat or drink or whatever.
- 20:49SPEAKER_01: Um play some board games?
- 20:52SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean the hobbies that I do the most are board games, video games, disc golf, ultimate frisbee.
- 21:01SPEAKER_00: Um, but I'm kind of a jack of all trades, master of none, uh, emphasis on master of none.
- 21:08SPEAKER_00: Um, but I love doing pretty much any hobby, and I would love to learn about your hobby.
- 21:14SPEAKER_00: So if there's anything you want to ramble about that you're super passionate, I would love to hear it, which is something that I like doing these humans of Wesley bits with, is getting to talk to people.
- 21:26SPEAKER_00: But I wish they would talk to me about them, not when I'm forcing a microphone down their throat.
- 21:30SPEAKER_01: So um I can't confirm all this is true.
- 21:35SPEAKER_00: This is super goofy, but I I like I said I love science and I love knowing how the world works.
- 21:40SPEAKER_00: So if you're ever curious about how anything works, I would love to uh adventure down that rabbit hole with you.
- 21:46SPEAKER_00: But that seems really goofy thing to say, so I don't know how to actually implement that in in practice.
- 21:52SPEAKER_01: Um well, Bailey, where can people reach you?
- 21:56SPEAKER_00: You can always, you know, text me or DM me or email me um or email podcast at ClemsonWesley.org if you really can't find any other way to contact me.
- 22:09SPEAKER_01: Or even crazy idea, walk up to you at uh Wesley Worship.
- 22:13SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 22:14SPEAKER_00: Again, people say I'm intimidating all the time, and I'm not, I don't know.
- 22:19SPEAKER_00: Well, I guess I can't say that.
- 22:20SPEAKER_00: Maybe I'm really grumpy looking all the time.
- 22:24SPEAKER_00: Um, just I'm a grumpy old man now.
- 22:27SPEAKER_00: But I would love to talk to you.
- 22:31SPEAKER_01: Okay, so podcast pretty much over.
- 22:34SPEAKER_01: Thank you for listening.
- 22:35SPEAKER_01: I'm sure there'll be a nice official little spiel at the end of this.
- 22:38SPEAKER_01: But how did it feel to have your girlfriend interview you?
- 22:41SPEAKER_00: Good, that was pretty smooth.
- 22:43SPEAKER_00: I thought you were gonna do more work to try to embarrass me or something, so I'm impressed that that went pretty smoothly.
- 22:50SPEAKER_01: You're welcome.
- 22:53unknown: Goodbye.
- 22:54SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
- 22:55SPEAKER_00: The Wesley Word is a production of the Clemson Wesley Foundation.
- 22:58SPEAKER_00: For more information about Clemson Wesley, check out our website or follow us on Facebook and Instagram.
- 23:03SPEAKER_00: Until next time, get out there and love your neighbor.