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- 0:13Good morning, friends and friends, I am Julio Pérez and this is the
- 0:20train of life, a radio adventure along the routes of the heart. I
- 0:27want to invite you to travel with me and dream together in a better world,
- 0:33a different world where men and women of good will can live in peace
- 0:38and freedom. The train of life is a magaxin of good news and hope.
- 0:48This is a radio time specially designed for people like you and as many
- 0:53seekers of truth, of the only truth that can truly make us. Come
- 1:00free, I invite you to travel with us on the safest train of all,
- 1:08which will definitely take you to safe harbour. This is the train of
- 1:17life. Good question, very good morning Spain, good day, friends,
- 1:55from this corner of this Iberian site of zo Barcelona, to all the towns,
- 2:00of brothers, of cities of Spain speaks Julio Pérez, this living parable.
- 2:07Thirty- two years later, untiringly, we are still on the train
- 2:13of life. Sign up and travel with us and enjoy it. We also
- 2:17go there to believe or not to believe. That is the question of what
- 3:23good it is to believe in God if God is nowhere. It exists only
- 3:29in our imagination, in the imagination of the illusions or the weak of spirit.
- 3:35Only those who have a fierce fear of death and even of life and
- 3:38are terrified of facing the harsh human realities are the ones who want to take
- 3:46refuge in this religious chimera. These are those who prefer to flee from present
- 3:52reality and invent an unreal world that one day, according to them, will
- 3:57become true, even if only in the imagination of naive believers who bet on
- 4:02the credulity of a utopian imaginary god and, moreover, angered by the human
- 4:09disaffection towards his person. It says this in some sane of the moment and
- 4:17of the past. What kind of God is such a perfectionist and demanding one
- 4:23who claims absolute obedience to his creatures. Why not admit once and for all
- 4:28the absence of God and stay so calm. Therefore, friends, let us
- 4:34eat and drink that tomorrow we will die and conclude with that popular saying that
- 4:42the dead prays to the hole and the living to the buoy. If that
- 4:46Christian Jewish God made us truly free to decide our personal destiny, why does
- 4:51he so much care to bother us with so many claims and proclaims through his
- 4:58representatives that, by the way, they are not always as exemplary as they
- 5:02are supposed to be? Why not accept once and for all a world without
- 5:06God, organized and administered only by this human species of ours that continues to
- 5:14evolve until we reach the proto man who is overcoming his earlier stages evolutionaryly,
- 5:23as it turns out some of the most advanced studies of the biological sciences,
- 5:29reaching its climax in the not very distant future, going from being the homo
- 5:34sapiens to the loin of ux, as this writer Israel says and so popular.
- 5:43Some still wonder. Do we need that so- called God who seems
- 5:49a little phantasmagorical. Where God is, if he is somewhere, how he
- 5:56is, it would be possible to know him truly, or it is much
- 6:01to ask how, when and where that God can be known that someone explains
- 6:06it to us for certain, how many go through life without knowing or worrying
- 6:15at all about the existence of that good God who, according to some disbeliefs,
- 6:20seems more absent than present from the various human circumstances and problems that are
- 6:26not few and some thick and disturbing. Allow me suddenly to stop being a
- 6:32stubborn atheist to become a simple believer in the God who created us right now
- 6:39and who has also given us Jesus Christ, the god who became a Helloin
- 6:45man, is in the environment around us, is in the echo of the
- 6:50mountains, is in the immense seas, is in the heights and also in
- 6:57the plains. The breath of the omnipotent is in all animated creation and even
- 7:03latently, also in the inanimate. He is indelibly in our entire molecular structure
- 7:12and, of course, in our human essence. Also, becoming a replica
- 7:16of his divine, likeness without any doubt, we are like Adam and evacuate
- 7:24God' s masterpiece. Absolutely Geloin has planted, or implanted rather in the
- 7:30vital center of our souls. The awareness that alerts us to the dangers and
- 7:35benefits of life is like the tree of science, good and evil in lost
- 7:41paradise and has also planted in the nuclear center of human history, that other
- 7:45tree of life that is the Cross of Christ, which can give salvation and
- 7:49hope to a lost world. In his own mistakes, God has taken his
- 7:59greatest you are human expression in Jesus. He' s unique. His words
- 8:03completely transform us His unconditional love and his dramatic death on the Cross reconcile us
- 8:09with God and also with ourselves. What a great power. Jesus, the
- 8:18resurrected one who defeated the empire of death, is the way to the father,
- 8:24the supreme truth, and eternal life personified. He and he alone is
- 8:31the light that illuminates our existence. So, friends, today my last advice
- 8:37to you is to seek God while he may be found. Therefore, if
- 8:43you hear his voice today in your consciousness through a human voice like mine,
- 8:48do not be indifferent to his call, for today may be your great day,
- 8:54your day of salvation on the train of life, life, ladies and
- 9:22gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen, to all the pilgrims of the radio waves,
- 9:46well, because welcome to this journeying train unstoppably I say because the train does
- 9:56not tire, it can break down in the worst case, but it is
- 9:58a machine no, and our life is like a motor machine. Think that
- 10:07the configuration, molecular and biochemical structure of the human being is perfect in its
- 10:15pure essence. The harmony that there is not only in all of our biochemical
- 10:22engineering of our being but also, if we see the external, oxygen,
- 10:26nitrogen, everything, the habitat, this is not a coincidence, this is
- 10:31not. This is a mind intelligent design, it is a higher mind.
- 10:41It' s hard to come to believe that because some say clearly the scarecrow
- 10:46of the or scarecrow, but it' s also right, that' s
- 10:50to say religion. He has told us that God is some sort of ghostly
- 10:54thing that is in the dark. God is a kind of being angered into
- 11:00doing the wills, like the Greek gods, these of Greek mythology, who
- 11:03were always enraged with one another. It doesn' t come that far.
- 11:09No, but the Christian Jewish god more the Jew than the Christian. He
- 11:16is an unknown God in his pure essence. He always speaks from far away.
- 11:26That' s what they say. Some do not, but it is
- 11:31the mystery of the God who created us. He is the one who determines
- 11:35the guidelines of all the rules of human behavior. He has given us the
- 11:41essence of the Book of Will. I was reading an article this week on
- 11:45the subject of predestination and the Book of Will. The author was not very
- 11:50convincing to me either, because in the end I think there was an interpretation
- 11:56mess with this argument. The God. God knows the end from the beginning,
- 12:03of course, he knows who is who and who will be in the
- 12:07Eternal Kingdom and who is not, because they will say otherwise. But God
- 12:13wants all men to proceed to repentance before it is too late. God'
- 12:20s good will is that it is unconditional love. Only clear when we come
- 12:24to him sincerely repentant. The condition is sincere repentance of our personal sins that
- 12:31we all have to a greater or lesser extent, and this has separated us
- 12:35from God. God is a humanly inaccessible holy being. But through Christ we
- 12:41can draw close to God. He has made a pontiff, bridge means he
- 12:48is not the Pope of Rome. Pontiff, it is Christ, the pontiff,
- 12:52the vicar, He is not Vicar, He is the substitute, He
- 12:56is not the Pope, That is the vicar of Christ on earth. At
- 12:58present, the Holy Spirit was called, but the vicar of Christ of God
- 13:03on earth was Christ who replaced us, those who have believed in him,
- 13:09and believe in him sincerely and believe is to connect ourselves to the living web
- 13:13of God and to be in his eternal project. God wants us back,
- 13:18does nothing difficult, but we have to repent sincerely of our sins, of
- 13:24our indifference, of our pride, of our evils, which each has his
- 13:28own. Uh, and from there a new story begins with us. Here
- 13:35' s the thing. Not in such a way that God is mastered,
- 13:39the God of God is the only true God. God so loved the world
- 13:43that he gave Jesus his only son, that whoever believes in him should not
- 13:48perish, but have everlasting life. For God did not send his son into
- 13:54the world to condemn the world, but that the world might be saved by
- 13:58him. In him was life and life was the light of men. Jesus
- 14:03is the light the greatest light. Well, ladies and gentlemen, in this
- 14:11start of the week, in this new Magaxing, we have Dr Pedro Tarquis.
- 14:16Dr Pedro Tarquis is a doctor, now retired many years ago, a
- 14:22doctor at the clinic of the Hospital Clílico de Madrid and very experienced in medicine,
- 14:31but he is also a journalist. He is a man who has been
- 14:35the creator and founder of Protestant Digital and all the holding of publications Evangelical Focus
- 14:43Protestant Aeropod also Evangelical Digital in Latin America. He is the Director General today
- 14:52and well, he was the driving force and he is a man to talk
- 14:56to is a pleasure, because we talk about current affairs and he knows very
- 15:01well what he is talking about is an observer of today like us and we
- 15:07want to talk to him about what is going on, which is not a
- 15:11small thing that we have a problem there with him, our President, about
- 15:18the international situation. Then today, it was confirmed precisely in the Congress of
- 15:26Deputies, because in the Senate because it has not had, it has not
- 15:30prospered, let us say in some way the refusal of the People' s
- 15:37Party over that of Amnesty. All this sainete we' ve had on the
- 15:43subject of Amnesty, and anyway, you know, there' s been a
- 15:50lot of talk about that. Let' s talk to him about a little
- 15:52bit of this, but let' s talk for him a little bit.
- 15:54The Spanish government is getting into a zulo, in a maze that is going
- 16:04to come out badly. The President won' t be long, not because
- 16:08of his wife' s issue that that will already be seen to see what
- 16:12the judges say and that comes out of it if it' s left at
- 16:15all, or there' s some truth. There seems to be signs,
- 16:18and for the moment there are signs of traffic, of influence, clearly,
- 16:23but of course, these things are not appropriate. After the performance made us
- 16:29by the President of the victim of those days of grief, benefactor. And
- 16:36then we have a lot of spotlights. We have no relationship with Ukraine.
- 16:42President Celesquia has recently been to Spain. Spain' s firm commitment to Ukraine
- 16:51until the end of this conflict, which we will see, still seems to
- 16:56be going for a long time. And then the subject of Israel, the
- 17:00clumsiness of breaking almost relations with Israel. It is true that we do not
- 17:08agree. I do not agree with Israel that it is making persistent and,
- 17:15in many cases, indiscriminate attacks against all civilians in the Gaza Strip. Of
- 17:22course, never are the absolute terrorists of never using the entire population, they
- 17:26have it frightened. No one can say anything, because if they don'
- 17:32t just kill them and they' re using them as human shields. But
- 17:34with them or not, it does not justify mercilessly attacking the entire population.
- 17:41That we disagree, I personally with Israel in that respect, but not in
- 17:47everything else, because the one who started this whole mess was never but the
- 17:52savages and made the terrorists declared. But what to say how to solve this
- 18:00in international politics. Well, we' ll be able to see where the
- 18:04sun rises, whether by an antequera or by knowing. And well, there
- 18:07are still domestic issues, and we' ll talk to Don Pedro de Archis
- 18:14about it. Then we will have here among us a good friend of this
- 18:21house, a personal friend, besides, a great friend, a person that
- 18:26I have a lot of affection and is the Luis Argente. This man has
- 18:30been a business director of a company for many years. He is retired,
- 18:34a retired, jubilant and good, but he still continues to volunteer tasks,
- 18:41including in the new evangelical hospital also in our community. He' s a
- 18:47very proactive man developing a diaconia. And this man met Mr Radio. It
- 18:56was a vehicle that he was hearing and that approached us and the radial half.
- 19:03But then in the campaign of the two thousand fifteen with Franklin Grahan in
- 19:07Barcelona, that he made the decision to follow Christ giving his life to Jesus
- 19:12and shortly afterwards, his wife, Maribel also met the lord and they are
- 19:18a wonderful magnificent couple that we love very much to be here talking about the
- 19:25personal transformation, change of life, how he understands life, how he lives
- 19:29it, how he perceives it, from then until then until now in everything
- 19:36that is ahead of him, for here will be in the Luis Argente study,
- 19:41the testimony of a man changed and transformed by the power of the Gospel,
- 19:52And we have wanted to capture the theme of this magnificent interview that my
- 20:03companions and friends of Radio Television Vida have done to Rosa Burguera and Miguel Lara,
- 20:10to the components the salt leaders one hundred fifty, and they the truth
- 20:15is that, well, they are so always in our hearts for what they
- 20:22suffered with the loss of little more than two years ago of their daughter Yakachiva
- 20:30for three of their ana, in a regrettable and dramatic way, the young
- 20:37girl and then also the little Joan, who stumbled such and drowned in a
- 20:45swimming pool in an unimaginable way. But well this is what children do that
- 20:55they are able to do what you can' t even imagine the suffering that
- 21:00has been for them. Knowing Psalm one hundred and fifty, Well we have
- 21:06taken this interview that speaks of their musical work, but it speaks of their
- 21:11lives and this situation of them so dramatic, how they face it, how
- 21:15they live it. Very nice interview we will reproduce and with the permission of
- 21:21our friends who collaborate with each other, one and the other watch the evangelical
- 21:27broadcasts Dinami Radio, Honda Paz, Radio Solidaria, also Radio Encuentro, Radio
- 21:38Televisión Vida. Fundamentally these most remarkable stations, because we exchange programs, we
- 21:48broadcast programs there, they here you listen daily here, on Monday to Friday,
- 21:56to our dear pastor Juancano, pastor of passion and director, also director
- 22:02general of Dinami Radio, not to our dear Lucho Panduro, who is also
- 22:07the technical director. And well, these things happen to each other on the
- 22:12radio stations. We work and interact, therefore, ladies and gentlemen, all
- 22:18this before us and nothing at a moment' s notice. We' ll
- 22:22get it. In the name of Jesus come with us, you can send
- 22:51your message through our Facebook, through our Facebook, entering in three double month
- 22:55point the train of life, point is the train of life, point is
- 22:59Remember that in this way you collaborate with us, tell us your impressions,
- 23:04ask them and participate actively. We want to meet you, we want to
- 23:10meet you. Use our website. Three month double points the train of life,
- 23:17point is and follow us, through Facebook, through defined. It hasn
- 23:37' t been easy days, that things haven' t turned out the way
- 23:41you expected me to understand you. I can see that your tears are real,
- 23:47that it hurts you what has happened. And in that sense I can
- 23:51understand you, but you have to rise to be you are not only acquired
- 24:03to extend it by hand and forget about your face, which are of if
- 24:12you are worth seeing sanwhere you eat, get worth the truth, that there
- 24:21is a lot of life ahead, continue worth it, you are not here
- 24:32by accident, continue worth the pear or uy uya to the front and throw
- 24:40to the front that your sadness becomes joy and your best smile. Everyone can
- 24:41see, you have to get up there or you' re alone here,
- 24:55this is going to extend your hand and forget about your fran home, which
- 25:03sub- thessive experience to do has to be untied, still worth the pear
- 25:11and there' s a lot of life ahead, still worth the vera,
- 25:21you' re not here by accident, still worth the pear gives you son
- 25:48jo or God is with me comes back tre Bendin. Lord is not allowed
- 25:55to dream good and forget ask of your failure, although they are of series
- 26:03silva, be your tendes there stagnated. It' s still going on with
- 26:10the pears, there' s a lot of life ahead, still worth it,
- 26:17aren' t you here by accident? Going on is worth it and
- 26:21forget about your pasts. Going on is worth the mistakes. You learn,
- 26:27it' s still worth it, you' re not here by accident,
- 26:33yeah, it' s worth it, there' s a lot of life
- 26:44ahead, still worth it for your safety. Use the belt. We'
- 26:45ve replaced this announcement of nine hundred and seventy- three because not wearing a
- 26:48seatbelt looks like things of the past. Let' s look at the flaws
- 26:52and a collision fifty kilometers per hour inking, but it didn' t today.
- 27:00One in four road deaths was not wearing a seat belt Put on a
- 27:04seat belt General Traffic Directorate, Ministry of the Interior, Government of Spain.
- 27:11They will see in the ultrasound signs in the effect that after birth they may
- 27:15have problems of integration or difficulties in exercising professions of responsibility and even situations in
- 27:19which their physical integrity or life is endangered. But what' s it about,
- 27:23doctor, you' re gonna have a little girl. Discrimination against women
- 27:26in society results in abuse, injustice and ill- treatment. Don' t
- 27:30let him. They' re coming in. Act with Amnesty Org Amnesty International.
- 27:36My project to study in the United States and teach them how to play
- 27:40football are really Emilio and Raúl, and one of them has schizophrenia, but
- 27:44his dreams, like those of anyone, have no limits, let' s
- 27:48not put them on us. Integration is always the best response for the social
- 27:51inclusion of people with mental health problems, Ministry of Health, social services and
- 27:55Equality Government of Spain. If you want to visit nut, the Www website,
- 28:03the train of life, train of life. Just or, ladies and
- 28:40gentlemen, we are here in the master car of the train of life and
- 28:45way to eria that this has already been naturalized for in all media do not
- 28:52believe that through Sky zoom other means we can have the closeness of our interlocutors.
- 29:03And in this case also today we have the pleasure and pleasure of having
- 29:08Doctor Pedro Tarquís, who is the Director General of Protestant aeropaid, a holding
- 29:12of publications that he himself promoted and was not easy. The thing is already
- 29:18and we are over twenty years old, we are almost twenty- one and
- 29:23it was unique in what is communication, in the Protestant media and it has
- 29:30set the tone. There have already appeared after others not so many, but
- 29:37also, and it is to be appreciated because it is a window to the
- 29:45outside also where many people of public life and citizens of all backgrounds come to
- 29:49digital Protestant and all their variables in Europe and in Latin America, etcetera,
- 29:55etcetera. Well, that' s where we' re going to talk about
- 29:59the other look of the day. I do not know if it will be
- 30:00the other different or the same as others, but at least it will be
- 30:07ours that we interpret with the best possible criteria and I welcome my friend,
- 30:11Dr Pedro de Archis. Good morning, Pedro Good morning. You wanted Julio
- 30:15a pleasure to be with you. Before, if we were young, I
- 30:19' d say you' re in the clouds and it was being clueless.
- 30:22And now being in the cloud is being connected. That' s in the
- 30:26cloud. It' s true. Yes, sir Yes, Mr Bueno Pedro,
- 30:33the truth is that there is a general zafarrancho here in Spanish politics.
- 30:37For example, today the Congress has definitively approved Amnesty, which definitively erases the
- 30:41crimes of one October, that this constitutional insurrection, which was really very serious
- 30:48and everything that took place, we believe that with the pardons we all thought
- 30:55and yet we understood that it was a sufficient response weapon to calm our spirits,
- 31:02but it has not gone a little further because of the sale of the
- 31:07Government by seven votes that it wants to perpetuate itself in power. It is
- 31:15nothing else, but it seems that this is the resolution for Spain. How
- 31:22you interpret this Amnesty ceremony and all that is the sainete we have had so
- 31:29far you have defined it very well. It' s been sold for a
- 31:33plate of lentils, which is a very serious thing. I agree with Felipe
- 31:37González the other day Well, in an interview in El Hormiguero and before in
- 31:41previous statements. I say this because there are people who take it that my
- 31:45aunts, that you each socialist party, and it really is that I believe
- 31:48that the current Socialist Party has nothing to do with what was the socialist party
- 31:53before that was a dignified position, a serious opposition, an alternative and a
- 32:00confrontation of ideas and programs. And right now he' s turned and amnesty
- 32:05is proof. It' s just staying in power, Felipe González didn'
- 32:09t say. Being in government is not the same as governing, and I
- 32:13believe it has now become. The current government simply wants to be in government,
- 32:20but it is not governing exactly the definition of Felipe González. Being government
- 32:25does not necessarily mean governing, and it is true. But the thing is
- 32:34that in clear sense now, Felipe González, compared to all these people,
- 32:40is a saint Come on, a Holy Man, a man who is the
- 32:45Holy Good. Felipe González, Alfonso Guerra, Nicolás Redondo, the whole old
- 32:49guard. I am really saying that I believe that one of the problems that
- 32:53the current one has with Pedro Sánchez is that he has distorted the party and,
- 32:59in fact, he has done. I am very critical of Pedro Sanchez
- 33:01and of the drift he has taken, but not of being against socialism.
- 33:07I believe that there is a need for a socialist party, just as a
- 33:09popular party does in fact have a balance, a check on bullets, as
- 33:15the Americans say, of balance of powers. But Pedro Sánchez has turned it
- 33:19into almost a totalitarianism that, in order to govern, is capable of anything,
- 33:22even contradicting it, because actually he, a few months ago was also
- 33:28against Amnesty. I was seeing this morning the hemeroteca that Susana Griso No was
- 33:35handing over and categorically a little before the elections last July 23rd, the refusal
- 33:42of him and all ministers categorically to this issue of the niche, that is,
- 33:49the magnified political hypocrisy. It' s but besides, it' s
- 33:55because of the consequences that this has, we' re going to see.
- 33:59I have thought of a scenario if this had been a national agreement to say
- 34:02look in a way without the pretension of those seven votes, which is the
- 34:08issue of selling Homeland. If the question of saying look comes around, let
- 34:15' s look until the last one for the theme of the Catalan conflict,
- 34:22good from a sector of Catalonia, because this represents half of the Catalans,
- 34:25only the other half. We are not going to try to prepare an amnesty
- 34:32to make a nesia of all this and clean slate and a table of dialogue
- 34:37and work and background. But it' s not this. This hasn'
- 34:40t been like that, it' s been a trap. This has happened
- 34:43in July, not only with Amnesty, but also with many of the important
- 34:47laws and we will say that highly sensitive have been implemented from the Government without
- 34:54taking into account at all a minimum consensus. I do not speak, for
- 35:00example, of the law of Uthanasia passed with the contrary position of the medical
- 35:06organization of the school, of the schools of doctors, of the organizations of
- 35:10palliative care, of the law of the terrible CS. As for the consequences,
- 35:14it was seen that there were failures, there were positive things, but
- 35:17it was seen that there were great failures, that benefited the offenders, the
- 35:22sexual abusers, and it was not corrected and it was carried out, also
- 35:27with much of the society and the parties against it, when, unilaterally,
- 35:31Pedro Sanchez decided that the Sahara was from Morocco, it is that neither consulted
- 35:37with his party, he did in the Government. That is to say,
- 35:42it is a path that I see as a nefarious one in terms of how
- 35:47to govern, because it is doing what interests me and sometimes for reasons that
- 35:52are not even known as the subject of the Sahara, but totally changing principles,
- 35:58as Groucho said more. These are my principles. But if you don
- 36:01' t like it, I have others. In the case of But Sanchez,
- 36:04these are my principles. If they don' t suit me, I
- 36:07can have others too. So I already say it' s not being against
- 36:12the Socialist Party that Pedro Sanchez makes it almost like attacking him. It is
- 36:16to attack the socialist party at all that is attacking socialist parties, Pedro Sanchez,
- 36:21from my point of view, because he has become as the Sun King
- 36:24the Empire. It' s me, the Kingdom. It' s me
- 36:29then, I say. We have fallen into a drift in which I really
- 36:32do not recognize Spanish democracy from its origins and the magnificent trajectory that the first
- 36:39governments had in the democratic transition with Felipe González, Alfonso Guerra Fraga, that
- 36:45there was a dialogue, a confrontation also and has been deriving, deriving,
- 36:50and we have come to something that is truly unrecognizable and that, moreover,
- 36:54raises a lack of confidence in n gens governs in this case. But Sanchez
- 37:00say what program he can have when he the next day or a few months
- 37:07can change completely. In fact, when he ran in the elections, he
- 37:10did not include the Amnesty law in his program, not even the pardon law,
- 37:15but was protesting against it. Then, of course, I' m
- 37:19saying it' s a contradiction. I really believe that anyone with common sense
- 37:21who is not partisan, because you can be socialist and realize this, as
- 37:24we have talked about this more relevant. But it' s a situation that
- 37:32I don' t understand how there' s no one standing up there to
- 37:36hear. This is going very badly for Spain and for socialism. Well,
- 37:42if Pajel Amban and some men have risen up and obviously have raised their voices
- 37:50and or have been practically excluded, but this is what has come of it
- 37:58in a deaf way and says Sanchez. In politics as in life, forgiveness
- 38:02is stronger than resentment. We are very much in favour of that, but
- 38:08it does not. That is not the case and it is clear. For
- 38:12there to be forgiveness, there must be repentance and perdition of forgiveness from the
- 38:15clear person who has done the harm. Sure. Besides, if they'
- 38:19re telling you, then we' ll see about it, since they won
- 38:22' t do it again. I tell you that I know the children and
- 38:24will not do it again, because prison is very bad and many more things.
- 38:30The state would be much more aggressive the answer and then this would be
- 38:36a decalabr They won' t do it, but this idea won' t.
- 38:37Do we not repent, will we and will we do what is necessary,
- 38:42just like the issue of the referendum? The issue of the referendum,
- 38:45although constitutional traps can also be made, as has been done with Amnesty,
- 38:50which we will see what Europe says. Uh, the last verdict that can
- 38:52be overturned by this Amnesty law is still pending, because it has, it
- 38:59has, it has, it has, it has many holes in the issue
- 39:07legally speaking, but the issue of the referendum is not the referendum. From
- 39:08all points of view. A referendum on independence is impossible. It is impossible
- 39:16because two thirds of the House do not give and talk about whether we will
- 39:22not give, do not give in any way. Then it can no longer
- 39:25be done there. It happens to be good,' cause you say good.
- 39:29Now they' re saying no and then they might end up saying yes.
- 39:30I mean Sanchez and company. But it' s not about that anymore.
- 39:36It' s about me being a political sophie. It has left us
- 39:39a bad taste of mouth in this and then in Spanish politics we have the
- 39:45issue of Koldo, we have the issue of suspicion. Yes, he does
- 39:51not suspect. There are well- founded data that there has been an exchange
- 39:58of influence on the part of the wife, the President of the Government,
- 40:00of the performance he made of those days of retirement and such and personal victimism.
- 40:06So this ends badly, this ends one way or another. This is
- 40:09beta somewhere. If really good, the one who would have committed the crime
- 40:15if it had been committed, would really be Pedro Sanchez. I don'
- 40:19t see your wife making a letter of recommendation. Possibly that' s not
- 40:22illegal, it' s unethical. Because she' s the wife of the
- 40:27government. But the key is the question they ask Pedro Sanchez. You knew
- 40:31that letter had been sent before granting to the company that your wife recommended the
- 40:37letter, because if he knew, obviously and gave you a generous subsidy,
- 40:44there is a traffic of influence, then, but it does not answer.
- 40:51He says you' re attacking me. You want me to boast to say
- 40:52good you, if it' s a lie, clear it up and tell
- 40:59the truth, tell it or your truth at least, but it doesn'
- 41:00t clear it up. He converts everything, I mean, I' m
- 41:01honest, but I don' t give explanations. Of course, that'
- 41:05s a contradiction. If you are honest with explanations and clarify what has happened
- 41:09to that Charter, with that recommendation and with the granting of money to whom
- 41:15your wife recommended. Sure, there' s another thong with this theme,
- 41:20because this is the route you have. If not, it is not,
- 41:24but there are indications that the letters of recommendation are, which are proven.
- 41:28It is, of course, Recael' s responsibility to the President, because
- 41:31after he has finished, it would not work for the State. But what
- 41:35I think is that the President' s wife must move away from what is
- 41:39the practice of public life insofar as it is going to compromise him or whether
- 41:43it is purely about him or not to create problems. So, in fact,
- 41:47look at the Angela Amerkel, not that she was with President of President,
- 41:54not Chancellor of Germany, she wasn' t her husband, she was
- 41:58with her, etcetera, but she had no relevant role in anything. Angela
- 42:01' s husband went to Merker. Why, because any performance is going to
- 42:06compromise your partner. And in that sense, I don' t think that
- 42:12' s been taken care of. I mean, it' s not to
- 42:15say that the woman doesn' t work, but to say that the woman
- 42:17in a high position, if you' re in business, is going to
- 42:22compromise the husband or the print company. If the high office thing is going
- 42:25to compromise the husband, he' s going to compromise the wife. Listen
- 42:30to merquel no de angel amer that the prototype of model politics integrates as there
- 42:38has not been in recent years. There has been no other or other life,
- 42:45which is an example of Protestant ethics. She daughter of pastor and Protestant
- 42:50confesses look. There are anecdotes of, for example, when she invited him
- 42:53to an act as chancellor and went and went with her husband. She the
- 42:59husband paid off. The ticket didn' t allow him to get paid.
- 43:02She always lived her apartment with her husband, to say, it was an
- 43:07absolute ethic that contrasts totally with everything we are living here in Spain. Well,
- 43:15if we still have Uncle Berni there, the Cooldo and company case,
- 43:21well here. Not this one way and another and of things and political unrest
- 43:28that is clear, the mud machine has it the other party and we are
- 43:32not the victims. The thing is, this hypochiety. It is true that,
- 43:39unfortunately, many lie and sometimes all to a greater or lesser extent.
- 43:45While few are saved, you don' t have to grab them with tweezers,
- 43:51but there are some who lie a lot and then go to the facts.
- 43:53I think the matter of mud is not true, that is, there
- 43:57is always a complaint. It' s true that after that it' s
- 43:59magnified. In short, it becomes a monothema. And in that sense,
- 44:02you do emphasize yourself and sometimes you can fall into some manipulation. But the
- 44:07facts are the facts, that is as the saying goes, the truth,
- 44:14the truth tell the manon or tell your porter. You don' t have
- 44:16to go to the facts. I' m telling you the facts. Pedro
- 44:19Sánchez is not clarifying it at all, so he looks at it contrasts with
- 44:22Isabel Díaz. Ayus or with all the trouble he also has with his partner,
- 44:27but she has gone out to say what is real, because you may
- 44:30agree to criticize him to look better or worse, but he has responded to
- 44:35the accusations. Instead, Sanchez doesn' t answer anymore. It seems serious
- 44:38to me that a charge so relevant with an accusation in front of it is
- 44:45also creating a serious conflict, because it simply does not tell the answer to
- 44:50the key question that you are asking it. And what has happened with Isabel
- 44:53ten ludo, with her boyfriend, who is neither her husband, is her
- 44:57boyfriend, her partner, who can be a temporary and such the whole maneuver
- 45:02of the Attorney General of the State, with his emissaries and all that,
- 45:09this is another shameful thing that is going to be the recursado, clearly,
- 45:15because we are going to this. If I use it and leaked information,
- 45:19I think there are tithes It was wrong in the sense that it got carried
- 45:22away with feeling. It was not political and he wanted to depend on that
- 45:27person to whom it is already clear that he has a special affection and could
- 45:30perfectly have said. It' s an individual person' s problem. It
- 45:32has nothing to do with me or some personal relationship we have, but it
- 45:36' s your problem and it' s not mine. Sure, and he
- 45:38came in to defend, and I think he was wrong there. But yes,
- 45:42it is true that it has nothing to do with either the Community of
- 45:45Madrid or anything that it has done. Díaz Ayuso has mentioned something that also
- 45:50seems very serious to me, and it is the infiltration of the counterweight charges
- 45:55of the Chekan Balas, which said before that he must always have a government,
- 46:00and it is the judicial counterweight. All fiscal positions, high tax offices
- 46:05that are, in theory, to oversee the Government, to prevent the Government
- 46:07from attributing actions above the law, are positions of trust of the Government.
- 46:16Many of them have been relevant charges within Pedro Sánchez' s soso, so
- 46:21whoever' s going to supervise you by a friend will tell you the one
- 46:24that you' ve put in place that his position depends on you and that,
- 46:29moreover, ideologically, he' s with you. It' s gonna
- 46:31be the one to set you straight when you' re making a public and
- 46:36clear mistake. The latest, the Ministry of the Interior telling the judges what
- 46:40to decide. In the case of Pedro Sánchez' s wife, you have
- 46:45to file the case. You publicly told the judge, man, please,
- 46:51you should be a minister who respects the judges to the fullest. He'
- 46:55s saying the judges have to do it. What you' re saying is
- 46:59that I think it' s so aberrant. They' re so crazy,
- 47:04this has no head. I don' t know if people realize it,
- 47:07but in the course we' re going is a course that no longer because
- 47:13of political partisanship, but because of the kind of action we' re building.
- 47:16We are removing all the columns that make a country stand up and that
- 47:22there is no totalitarianism and that governments have balances, that decisions are consensual within
- 47:28your party, but also with the other parties. And then we have to
- 47:36add to this the whole question of Israel. Spain, with an incredible political
- 47:45clumsiness, is not only true that it can make a protest about the situation,
- 47:53perhaps of the attacks that must be understood all that the background of what
- 47:58began is this violence, but macabre that were never and that have terrorized the
- 48:04whole population and have them kidnapped as human shields. And there' s the
- 48:10big problem. It is true that we must have mercy on the civilian population,
- 48:16which is also exposed to attacks. But the reality is that the Spanish
- 48:25government aligns to make the declaration and recognition of the Palestinian state. This I
- 48:31believe that as few countries have formally made three countries out of the almost thirty
- 48:37countries of the European Union and either we are either not the dumbest in the
- 48:43class or because of political inopportunity. If this were to be discussed at another
- 48:46time and then that anti- Semitism that Pilar Rahola has dared to denounce very
- 48:54bravely. No, by the way, a woman. For me the weird
- 48:59situation. It' s like a bucket of Kubrick that I think only God
- 49:02is capable of recomposing and that I feel really incapable. Now what I am
- 49:07clear about are certain pieces that have to be taken into account. On the
- 49:09one hand, the only democratic country in the whole Middle East is Israel,
- 49:16that is, all these people who attack. Israel is a country that defends
- 49:24democracy, which gives a dignity role to women, which does not, of
- 49:28course, kill homosexuals as other Arab countries do. That' s why half
- 49:34the women can study, they don' t have to wear veils. I
- 49:37' m sure if anyone' s going to live Middle Someone, they'
- 49:40re going to Israel before any other country. This entry not the second,
- 49:44it is clear that the terrible beastly attack that he has ever done and on
- 49:52Israel is a barbarity and must be condemned And it is never a terrorist group
- 49:58that never governs Palestine, by which to say that the State of Palestine must
- 50:01recognize it, that is, that you will never recognize it in the background,
- 50:05not and do it right now in the midst of a conflict, when
- 50:07in a marriage it is about to divorce, when there are people who say
- 50:12do not have a child and so you will unite badly, it will generate
- 50:15more problems still. If it is a solution, it is not the time
- 50:17to apply it. Of course, and on the other hand, it is
- 50:22true that what you are doing in the so- yeah net An yahuno Israel
- 50:25Netanyahu is a barbarity. I believe that a strong reaction is understandable at the
- 50:30outset, but the prolongation in time and the punishment of the civilian population.
- 50:36I really, I have to condemn him, say, there has to be
- 50:39another solution. The end does not justify the means. Then and Netanyahu does
- 50:43it in large part because he wants to stay in power, because he has
- 50:45behind him a series of allegations of corruption, etc, which, as long
- 50:50as he is President, will not be applied to him. Yeah, I
- 50:52mean, they' re pieces that all have to be taken into account.
- 50:55And then Yolanda Díaz' s statement saying that we had to get a free
- 51:01Palestine from the river to the sea, from Fordan to the Mediterranean, is
- 51:06the motto of never, that is, she said we have to end Israel,
- 51:10the declaration she had and then she wanted to explain it more or less,
- 51:15but she hasn' t really clarified it. So I think it'
- 51:17s a super complicated situation that the great United States, Germany, France,
- 51:22and so on. They' re there balancing, because they really don'
- 51:29t know how to find a way out. I believe that what you are
- 51:30doing in the Tanyahu must be condemned, and the war should be ended in
- 51:36any way possible. Yes, but not by attacking Israel as a nation,
- 51:40because it is a nation that deserves all the respect and so we go to
- 51:44the subject of our believing by carlo. Israel has a cultural background, a
- 51:47history and we are going to say a role in God' s plan so
- 51:53special that we can only have sympathy with that people who, moreover, have
- 51:57suffered, because the Nazi holocaust, which has no comparison with what is happening
- 52:00in Gaza. As much as you want to compare, not good and incomparable.
- 52:06It is not true and historically, the persecutions, atrocious and exterminations in
- 52:14different epochs of history. Or repeatedly this kind of assassination against Israel, always
- 52:22over and over again. But we' re not here when people hear us.
- 52:28We do not agree with the aggressive policy of net ayahun against the population
- 52:34at all. This has to stop. The innocent as they are dying,
- 52:38do not have to die in any way. But how much of it is
- 52:43confused one thing with the other and then we carry a curse as a country.
- 52:49And this is not easily believed by anyone, because historic Israel and Israel
- 52:54are the only country, the only millennial country that has been historically reconstituted the
- 53:00only one. There are countries that have been reconstituted, but they are not
- 53:06millennials three hundred, four hundred, five hundred, the longest, but the
- 53:09only millennial country that has been historically recomposed, according to biblical prophecies, is
- 53:15the Israel of God, the Israel that God used as his vehicle to bring
- 53:19the message to the world and from where our Savior also came. And there
- 53:22are words of God that love that people and so do we, because we
- 53:29have great ancestry over Israel. But we do not justify all the wrong things
- 53:32done by Israel politically speaking, but what the Spanish Government is doing, this
- 53:37is a mistake and hurts the country. That clear mistake is already greater.
- 53:42I believe that he is doing so to direct his gaze towards international issues,
- 53:49precisely to avoid all the issues that we are talking about the wife of Pedro
- 53:52Sánchez de Begoña, etc, and to distract in this way and give an
- 53:58appearance of great political leader. For me, apart from being really wrong,
- 54:02it' s a mario hour of distraction and good. For the rest,
- 54:07we have a good idea, because look at the background of the Ukraine war
- 54:14with Russia Ukraine we also had Hagleski here recently this week. This week we
- 54:22practically had it for Spain. The President, well, he' s engaged.
- 54:25We will see when this conflict also ends, because I suppose that at
- 54:30some point there will be an end to this unfortunate and painful history of the
- 54:37conflict between Russia and Ukraine. There are hot parts in the world now all
- 54:45focus on Israel and the Palestinian conflict on Israel and Palestine, but I mean
- 54:52that the spotlights sometimes go from one side to the other changes the scenario.
- 54:59Yes, there' s the topic of the media magnifying glass, which focuses
- 55:01on something because it generates interest and makes people read or see more or listen
- 55:08to certain programs. But there is even another war in Congo, there is
- 55:15a terrible war in Miseria. Thousands and thousands of Christians are being massacred because
- 55:20they are Christians and they are practically not in the media. I mean,
- 55:24there' s a certain selectivity. I don' t say it' s
- 55:29mean, at least always, but it' s very paradoxical. Not that
- 55:34you pay attention to certain situations, because at that moment they become those that
- 55:38are on the candlestick and then disappear, as sometimes happens with earthquakes tragedies,
- 55:44etcetera. And it changes when what had happened before has not yet been solved.
- 55:52So I think that the media are sadly following the public interest and not
- 55:59actually doing their job of reporting on everything that is happening. Yeah, going
- 56:07through. Page Peter. We have had the pleasure, both you and a
- 56:13servant, to be able to attend the Conference, to this International Conference of
- 56:20Parliament and Faith which to me has seemed a magnificent conference with the participants and
- 56:25with a delicacy on each of the issues that have been raised, very well
- 56:30focused. Right, yeah, I liked it Look. I would summarize it
- 56:37a little bit by Lui bon Garra, when he made his presentation of the
- 56:42general division, saying that politicians, the media already recognize us evangelicals that we
- 56:47are an entity that cares about the most disadvantaged, that we have the hand,
- 56:52that we arrive where it does not reach the state, that we do
- 56:57not distinguish people when it comes to giving help, but that it seems that
- 57:00we stay there. And yet the evangelical faith, the Protestant action, is
- 57:04much more than that. That is a branch, it is not an arm,
- 57:07but that we have a lot to say at the level of thought,
- 57:10at the level of politics, at the level of dialogue, because what we
- 57:14are talking about conflicts, we are used internally to having differences and solving them
- 57:20by talking or if we discuss them, we end up then giving ourselves a
- 57:23hug and moving on together. And I believe that Spain needs that contribution that
- 57:28we evangelicals have and on the issues of Parliament and faith that were discussed,
- 57:32because from artificial intelligence, the theme of Agenda two thousand thirty, the theme
- 57:37of the role of women in church and society, the issue of immigration.
- 57:40Anyway, there were contributions like you say that would be very interesting to develop.
- 57:46And the point is that we do not get believers, with true Christian
- 57:52values that apply that vision to the practical reality around us. There is a
- 58:00certain glass ceiling that makes us not reach decision- making positions to be able
- 58:07to influence in part, because there are people who say that anyone who is
- 58:10religious is already a problem, a danger no, that it is like saying
- 58:15that when there is an atheist it is a danger no. If he is
- 58:17a good professional and does it well, he will work well, even if
- 58:21he does not agree with his spiritual vision and, on the other hand,
- 58:24the traditional Catholic vision, which occupies certain spaces and occupies them, and there
- 58:30he does not give us any room for evangelicals. So we are there in
- 58:32a nobody' s field, where I believe that Spain, there has a
- 58:37deficit, because the rest of Europe, where Protestantism did reach an important social
- 58:43presence, because it has reached those places and has had a very positive influence.
- 58:51So it is, it is from what we hear and the lectures of
- 58:55the reflections were very interesting of people who are media, people who are some
- 59:00senior official of the or who, moreover, combined pastors and others that are
- 59:07related to the political class, also to public life directly or indirectly, with
- 59:10very very enriching topics. And, moreover, I liked very much the balance,
- 59:19the way to speak it from a sense, from a Christian worldview,
- 59:23of course, which is what we have, and with the essentially Christian values
- 59:29that are so valuable and so essential for human coexistence and for the balance of
- 59:37human life. But also, with a temperance and with some balance. I
- 59:42could say no, but does this always talk about the same thing, do
- 59:45they decorate over there or over here? Don' t you? Don'
- 59:45t you? Don' t you? Don' t you? Don'
- 59:45t you? There we spoke in depth, with seriousness, with rigor,
- 59:50with data and, obviously, from a thing like each one has his way
- 59:55of understanding life and so do we. But there was no political position.
- 1:00:01It means everyone has what they have and it' s true in public life
- 1:00:08they have this new generation of ours and I don' t know if any
- 1:00:13of the new notes, which is more mature, should land at different levels
- 1:00:20to be voices, interveners in social mediation, in social intervention. And this
- 1:00:23is necessary because it is not like a prophetic voice to say. Gentlemen,
- 1:00:30this is not the way. Someone has to say it from a platform like
- 1:00:35Congress. But well said and have the necessary qualities to say. That'
- 1:00:43s what I think. What the evangelism says God is holy and light.
- 1:00:45It does not mean imposing anything or forcing people to have a certain vision,
- 1:00:51but to participate and in that contribution. The Gospel Jesus said that it is
- 1:00:57someone who is light, something that gives good flavor, that prevents corruption and
- 1:01:01at the same time it is light that removes darkness and gives clarity and transparency.
- 1:01:06We were talking before Angel to Merkel, which was an example as a
- 1:01:08politician. There are other politicians in the history of Europe who have been gyente
- 1:01:13geniuses. The founder of the Red Cross was also Evangelical Luther King, to
- 1:01:19say, someone so well known Wilverforce, who was the one who got slavery
- 1:01:23to be abolished in England. So I think we should be there, that
- 1:01:29is, and that the new generations must not be the only way, because
- 1:01:35but we must participate in all the ways in which society allows us to maintain,
- 1:01:40of course, social work, love, neighbor, the needy, but
- 1:01:44without letting that also be present in forums and forums where things are decided so
- 1:01:49that our voice is heard. Now we' re going to have a meeting
- 1:01:57at the end of June. I think it' s the two thousand twenty
- 1:02:00- one game in Cordoba where we' re going to have an act on
- 1:02:06Protestant memory and the Protestant Secretary of State for Memory is going to participate.
- 1:02:09We had a conversation at the Moncloa that we were Eva Sierra, Manuel Suárez,
- 1:02:15Antonio Simón and I, and talking to him, it turns out that
- 1:02:21in the origins of Spanish democracy. There are Protestant figures who are not known
- 1:02:27to be Protestants and talking to him, by naming her Sell Simoni, especially
- 1:02:30that he was a great connoisseur of history, he said that he was a
- 1:02:35pastor, a teacher and pastor of the people. Then we' ve been
- 1:02:40there. We haven' t been there. And I believe that, for
- 1:02:43example, this act serves to vindicate him. If an act is going to
- 1:02:45have a repercussion, it has a category, it has a high level,
- 1:02:50and I think we should, like being there, be in many places.
- 1:02:52We don' t always say Abenaban' s movie when the war ends,
- 1:02:58in which a friend of amuno' s tyrannical coconut appears. We have to
- 1:03:01rescue and let people know that we' ve been and that we' ve
- 1:03:05been contributing to society. We have been contributing common sense, We have been
- 1:03:08contributing in favor of freedom of conscience, of religious freedom, for example,
- 1:03:13the subject now so much debated, the subject of transsexuality and all gender ideology.
- 1:03:16We do not agree with her, but we respect that she thinks differently,
- 1:03:21but we bring common sense saying that science and scientific criteria must be applied,
- 1:03:25not simply ideology and, finally, so many aspects where if people do
- 1:03:30not radicalize, if people listen, I think we will have a lot to
- 1:03:35contribute to society. And if we are not heard, society is losing a
- 1:03:38very important value. Without a doubt, gentlemen and you cannot imagine that Pedro
- 1:03:45Tarquis is a multifaceted name, besides being the Director General of Aeropodo, Protestant
- 1:03:50and founder of digital Protestant and the different media that make it up. Look
- 1:04:01is poet Olivo truncated Israel is his latest prophecy. Yeah, and hey,
- 1:04:06I really liked it. Look says Olivo truncated Israeli grafted from strangers who drink
- 1:04:12from your sap, to root in your skin. Millennial olive tree with your
- 1:04:16being born of light and water, son of fire and bush, which lit
- 1:04:20without burning you sprout from the earth and from the eternal and together in your
- 1:04:25embrace at the time, white ties of peace and the flight of the black
- 1:04:30crow of the green. How will I not pray Olivo, this pilgrim walker
- 1:04:34from the far sefarat to take peace into the soul of your soil, in
- 1:04:40the beloved Jerusalem? Wawnito recited by you most beautiful still seems to me to
- 1:04:47hear here what a beautiful voice you have or the truth, yes, well,
- 1:04:54but this poetry is beautiful. Well from there you can see there in
- 1:04:57your section also Blue look, poems and poems. He goes out to write
- 1:05:02on a trip to Jerusalem, visiting Mount Olives, there near Jerusalem, and
- 1:05:06it was a feeling that you should know that Jesus was there, that Jesus
- 1:05:11wept, wept over Jerusalem before arriving there, that Jesus suffered, died and
- 1:05:16died at the hands of the Jewish people, though justified by the Romans.
- 1:05:23But he loved, loved Israel despite all eyesight. There we have the best
- 1:05:27example of how God, on the one hand, is just and I told
- 1:05:31the truth and sometimes corrected Israel, but I did not stop loving it.
- 1:05:35No, I think that' s a good example. Yeah, plus,
- 1:05:39it' s inspired by Romans. Chapter eleven, which speaks of the link
- 1:05:43Henry, which we have been grafted into the natural olive tree. How beautiful
- 1:05:46and this dedication, therefore, dear friend, Pedro Tarquís, director general of
- 1:05:55Protestant of aeropaid Protestant, the media, what matters the evangelical media and all
- 1:06:01these years, all the work that you have been doing, really magnificent Peter,
- 1:06:08who has also updated society many public authorities that come to the pages of
- 1:06:15digital Protestant, because it is a means afterwards some others have come out in
- 1:06:19this case of evangelical actuality also much later, but that is also like the
- 1:06:24informer of ferede, but already digital Protestant every day with a group of journalists
- 1:06:31of magnificent articles of first level at all levels of inspiration, of reflection,
- 1:06:39of debate and always, with a tone and moreover, of impartiality, because
- 1:06:45there are sometimes reports that things happen that are not of the most pleasant for
- 1:06:49us, but also autocritical credibility of a medium when you also count what does
- 1:06:55not suit you to what upsets you. As we said before politics, human
- 1:07:00mistakes must be recognized. As far as the media is concerned, I think
- 1:07:05we have made progress. Apart from Protestant and evangelical focus and digital evangelical,
- 1:07:11I believe that the evangelical media have made a very important leap forward. Of
- 1:07:15course, evangelical news, but it is also on the radio, for example,
- 1:07:21Apart from a vinami peace radio meeting time. I believe that we have
- 1:07:26a means of solidarity with television, a means of quality. Not really that
- 1:07:30we have impacted and specifically Protestant. Yes, it' s true that they
- 1:07:34read to us journalists, they read to us politicians. When there are elections,
- 1:07:39sometimes we do interviews with politicians and many of them are reading digital Protestant,
- 1:07:44not every day, but they follow it and it is also a way
- 1:07:47to get to society and get to know us. And I think that there
- 1:07:53we have taken an important step, although, of course, it makes a
- 1:07:57lot of progress, because happy to dare to push something that was not easy,
- 1:08:03it was not easy in the middle. There are so many mists,
- 1:08:05but it is a very important reality that is blessing all the Christian people and
- 1:08:11many more people from our surrounding environment, from public life as well, from
- 1:08:15social life. Peter, dear, friend, thank you for being with us
- 1:08:19on the train of life. Nothing' s been a pleasure going up wrong.
- 1:08:24Be worth getting me down, but well, they talk about taking the
- 1:08:28station to keep doing things. Yes, sir, a hug buddy, see
- 1:08:30you soon, a hug. Bye- bye. Or how many we'
- 1:08:58re all gonna be brar, what you can hear, what we' re
- 1:09:05partying, you can' t shut up, the intensity goes up, what
- 1:09:12a place it is. We' re all going to sing, all my
- 1:09:29two of us are going to mindate I' m going to and to taste,
- 1:09:42to sing without stopping what I' m going to watch, come enjoy
- 1:09:55without vei nar us the ladies our strength, or we' re going to
- 1:10:10celebrate that you don' t live save and I don' t want you
- 1:10:25to go back to stop from lying rational bone waiting all together we' re
- 1:10:41going to sing, we' re all ready, we' re going to
- 1:10:54shout, because that I' m going to give come sing, if for
- 1:11:08this poaching I' m going to devadad and enjoy without life, I'
- 1:11:11m going to pot to sing, is that I' m going to listen,
- 1:11:11to dance, to harass your thirst. Oh, thank you we'
- 1:11:15re with the Lord because he saved us when they say threats to see like
- 1:11:21this. Jesus catching us, releasing us what great love, Jesus, Jesus
- 1:11:31forgives us and we child how good I look, Jesus, we fell silent,
- 1:11:43we can see that in singing of the sea of jess Jesus forgives us
- 1:11:53they saw of God that good oya s or good opposite o o s o?
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- 1:13:45Stop the train of life. Or your ladies and gentlemen, here we
- 1:14:31are in good company. I had an open door and open doors you can
- 1:14:40' t have. I' m in good company with my good friend Luis
- 1:14:45Argente. Welcome, Luis, to your house, well found and thank you
- 1:14:51very much. For me. It' s a good thing, because it
- 1:14:55' s a pleasure to be here so much where you call me. You
- 1:14:57' re a Barcelonaan who' s been your life in Barcelona, but you
- 1:15:02' re going to run away from the city and live near the sea,
- 1:15:06but not too close. No yes, the veganova between sea and mountain,
- 1:15:13because the mountain is ten minutes away with cars, that is to say it
- 1:15:16will not go to YouTube, look not to see the jantru and to the
- 1:15:19beach Andalusian. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you scare off with your little
- 1:15:23dog for a little walk. My dog loves the mountain on my part and
- 1:15:28loves the beach on my wife' s part. Yes, he' s
- 1:15:30very happy. So one of them likes the beach and another likes the mountain
- 1:15:32and you give it away. When you walk out the dog, one goes
- 1:15:36for the bontaña and you look good on the beach. Well, you got
- 1:15:41the beach from your house. Nothing. A moment we know calmly walking is
- 1:15:45of descent and in a moment we are on the beaches. If these parties
- 1:15:48are making you jealous of those who have no sea. I' m sorry,
- 1:15:53no. Here we all have bad value is the barceloneta, you'
- 1:15:56re already things, but well, no, but I mean those who live
- 1:15:59more inside than listening. We are surrounded, We are a peninsula, we
- 1:16:03are surrounded by sea, the Cantabrian Sea, the Atlantic Ocean, the Mediterranean,
- 1:16:10Mediterranean, yes, yes, yes, yes, we are sailors,
- 1:16:13that is, yes, yes, yes. We have a marine vocation.
- 1:16:16Luis Luis Argenti, you were born in not in Barcelona. No. I
- 1:16:24' m aragones. I am a mañico of the province of terbert to be
- 1:16:28exact of the teral province, of the province of Teruranga, and not far
- 1:16:31from a population that I suppose will collect many people called Calanda. Calanda,
- 1:16:35it does have canisters. It will be known to the athletes for cinemas I
- 1:16:40' ve been to Calanda. Then comes Calanda, which are the themes,
- 1:16:42the covers, and then comes Alcoriso, exactly from there dream, yes,
- 1:16:46Alcañiz is a historic city, very beautiful. By the way, ton has
- 1:16:49a lot of history and Calanda. I think some of the movie producers have
- 1:16:55made films in Calanda. I remember some of them that beño is coming exactly
- 1:17:00buñel and company like this always movies as well as very very dramatic. No,
- 1:17:06I don' t. The bottom line, Spanish cinema is that one
- 1:17:10day yes, yes, very dramatic and good, and then you get to
- 1:17:16Barcelona when I eat bo a long time ago, I really do, yes,
- 1:17:20that I have memory, but I don' t remember well, but
- 1:17:24I was between eight and nine years old I set out with your parents.
- 1:17:27Yes, my parents migrated from there and came here. Evidently, I came
- 1:17:31with them, that is, I was talking about many years already, many
- 1:17:34years that I am living in Barcelona, man, the roots never forget badly
- 1:17:41grateful wounds, no, that is to say that I consider myself morning and
- 1:17:44I love that land, but at the same time I consider myself Catalan,
- 1:17:46that I have done it all my wife, my children, in my work,
- 1:17:50my development, everything has been Catalan, that is to say that I
- 1:17:53consider myself also Catalan. Sure, sure, Barcelona, the Barcelona of your
- 1:17:56loves, except for the colau ah on the ponytail that I put you,
- 1:18:01there of the house where I lived, the shot and a whole taqui a
- 1:18:05tinglado. I' m already forgetting her. Not because, fortunately, in
- 1:18:10the end maybe you have to thank each other thanks to you this well cystes
- 1:18:13not so that in the end it can almost be a thank you. Yes,
- 1:18:17for those years he lived them fatally in the place where he was living
- 1:18:23noises. And now, when I pass by, I no longer get angry,
- 1:18:28obviously, because my sister lives in that area and I go there from
- 1:18:30time to time to see him and I no longer get angry, but I
- 1:18:34get depressed, I see him and I continue to see him smells, very
- 1:18:44strange values of needs, pains such with how beautiful Barcelona is. Uh,
- 1:18:46and I think so, it' s a beautiful city, very, very,
- 1:18:50very pretty. Yeah, I' ve traveled a lot myself, but
- 1:18:54I haven' t traveled a little bit and the comparative I' ll always
- 1:18:59come back so those urban islets that we have where all the people were going
- 1:19:03to see and they' re going to scream and so and they' re
- 1:19:08going to give Hoy horros and then they wouldn' t let us sleep.
- 1:19:08First, he doesn' t let go, but second he was a little
- 1:19:12wild, not because people, because that middle of the ontainess started to urinate
- 1:19:18or to desiccate. Anyway, we' ve seen assaults. My daughter,
- 1:19:24who' s engaged in social issues like this, has had parallas there because
- 1:19:29they mess with a girl who was alone or so I' ve seen it.
- 1:19:31I' ve been dealing with drug dealers myself. Horrifying, my God.
- 1:19:39That' s the ugliest version. But the pretty version also exists.
- 1:19:45But yes, yes, there is a very pretty one that the midwives are
- 1:19:48there put to nin of this is beautiful. That' s because it'
- 1:19:51s like being in national geography, because you see rats like rabbits calling each
- 1:19:56other from one place to the next and getting underneath and in the end they
- 1:19:59were fast. They' re almost walking. It' s nice to see.
- 1:20:01Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, well, there'
- 1:20:06s a thing to see, there' s a thing to see. I
- 1:20:09' ve been looking at the face, the hidden face of Gran Barcelona,
- 1:20:15Bonita, pretty, so heis. Yes, total Now watch that the rambles
- 1:20:18are going to be reformed from Canaletas to the gothic, the laughing door part
- 1:20:26and a little bit over there. Boquería, Calle la Calleba alca, Reboquería
- 1:20:30and all that first part, which is going to be a long time,
- 1:20:33but the rambla needs to be reformed. It is one of the most beautiful
- 1:20:39and visited boulevards in the world. So, well, there you are late.
- 1:20:44Absolutely. Yeah, it' s a lot more. That has been
- 1:20:46one of the things I would say already, a bad punch given by someone
- 1:20:50who at the time was running the town hall of Barcelona and there, it
- 1:20:58didn' t go very well there. Nothing more in diverse teaching. Luis
- 1:21:03You have been a man also involved in the commercial world. He has been
- 1:21:08a commercial director, you have also had a business entrepreneur and you have spent
- 1:21:16a good half- life, professional life almost all in this world. I
- 1:21:20have, in fact, been in three different companies, all of them multinationals,
- 1:21:29and one of mine or pashamia that mounts it. Yeah, yeah,
- 1:21:32yeah, but it' s always been the same bouquet, the capillary bouquet.
- 1:21:36And all this last thing has to do with seeing. Basically, the
- 1:21:41vast majority was beauty, hairdressing. Let' s see. I was in
- 1:21:45high cosmetic, in an important American milling company. Then I was in hairdressing
- 1:21:55a lot related to cosmetics and beauty. And after the last two times it
- 1:22:00has been with laboratories that effectively take care of the health of skin and hair.
- 1:22:06Yes, then, well, the issue of capillary is that now people
- 1:22:12are being made between Turkey, which has become the paracea of those who have
- 1:22:17problems with baldness. Well, you think Don Alltran has capillary implantation. I
- 1:22:26' m not saying. I' m telling you, the truth is,
- 1:22:28I haven' t noticed it. No, I' m not. In
- 1:22:30the shape of hair it has to be an exaggerated hair. I think it
- 1:22:34' s good. Americans really like tups that bombard their hair a lot,
- 1:22:39and we find this a little bit much of a baralles. I sang it.
- 1:22:45Not because both men and women are very transacted. Uh, yeah,
- 1:22:49yeah, yeah, no, but I thought. This man must have made
- 1:22:53some capillary application. I think it' s one. I haven' t
- 1:22:57noticed well, now I' m going to notice, but I always think
- 1:23:00I' ve looked at it. I mean, what a wig you wear,
- 1:23:02I' ve always thought about it, but it' s his own.
- 1:23:04The pulo, apparently it' s yours. No, I mean,
- 1:23:09it doesn' t look like it. It doesn' t look like it.
- 1:23:10Yeah, it doesn' t look like it to the naked eye,
- 1:23:13okay, but now I' m gonna look at it and answer that.
- 1:23:15I' m going to look at it, but it gives me the feeling
- 1:23:16that it' s done that way you' re going to see an incipient
- 1:23:19vale. I' m going to ask a professional question. We take good
- 1:23:24care of our hair. Most people don' t, and but it'
- 1:23:29s relatively understandable. There' s a culture. That' s what you
- 1:23:34' ve had a lot of fraud and it' s still going on.
- 1:23:35I' ve still had a lot of fraud, a lot of hair growing.
- 1:23:39No. When someone talks about the hair grower and so much and there
- 1:23:44is a lot of lighthouse, then people are very skeptical of those issues,
- 1:23:50very skeptical, so they don' t take care of it too much.
- 1:23:51Besides, men have a fantastic advantage and it' s that women say that
- 1:23:56hairless men are attractive, so now yes, it' s not now in
- 1:24:00the past. Now. Now balds are triumphant if they succeed altogether. And
- 1:24:05this tells you, so why should I take care of it? No,
- 1:24:08and he wants the bald ones to go bald is a totally rappy figure.
- 1:24:13No, yes, yes, then no, but the truth is that not
- 1:24:15only do they take too much care because in the end they come to the
- 1:24:19general conclusion that there are few things to do, but the truth is that
- 1:24:23if there are things to do here. This is my experience for the last
- 1:24:26fifteen years. I think it' s been ten or ten fifteen years.
- 1:24:30Maybe yes, because the subject of lopecia and all that you treated also If
- 1:24:33it was what I said, yes, of course, to see us,
- 1:24:39as therapy before the hair, we always said the same thing. I'
- 1:24:44m not gonna tell you, I' m not gonna promise you that I
- 1:24:46' m gonna get your hair out. What I can assure you is to
- 1:24:50keep it with a better state, with a better view, with more strength,
- 1:24:55with more brilliance. But keep it. Pulling out hair makes it because
- 1:25:00if they' re good, we see a little technical. The papillae are
- 1:25:02scarred in nothing to do The only thing to do is a transplant. There
- 1:25:05' s no other extra story, but if they' re not, however
- 1:25:10stunted they are, you can pull it out. Then I leave personally,
- 1:25:13speaking of my own experience, I have seen how they have recovered hair,
- 1:25:18even universal, that is, that they had no horse or eyebrows. We
- 1:25:21have recovered them after going through many clinics and they have recovered and others we
- 1:25:28tested. If I count a case, I have to be a thousand that
- 1:25:30is not possible, but keeping it is always possible. It happens that care
- 1:25:32is required and the transplants of these, for example, have already been long
- 1:25:35in Turkey and especially in Turkey. Not these capiles are successful. Now they
- 1:25:43start to be, but now you can start consecrating. You didn' t
- 1:25:45have to go to Turkey. It' s just that there were specialized clinics
- 1:25:51here before, but they were very expensive. I mean, they didn'
- 1:25:54t drop you from eight, nine zero euros, ten zero euros and of
- 1:25:58course you had to think about it. That' s why a lot of
- 1:26:00people went to Turkey because for three thousand, for two thousand. I remember
- 1:26:02that even for 1, 500 euros they could come with a transplant done,
- 1:26:09but of course they had to know how to choose very well. There are
- 1:26:12many many clinics that good did your transplants, but I knew clearly you know
- 1:26:15you once noticed these famous dolls that are as if they looked not to say
- 1:26:20oysters or not now. The technique has improved tremendously and the truth is that
- 1:26:27the results are good. They' re really good. I would no longer
- 1:26:30recommend people who are exclusive to go to Turkey, which is this way,
- 1:26:32in Spain, in Madrid, in Barcelona, there are very good clinics about
- 1:26:36it and well of Persia, Barbie' s famous dolls and all these that
- 1:26:41are hairstyles. These yes I do what I see sometimes that people with the
- 1:26:46theme of hair, there are some who want to half cover baldness and can
- 1:26:51go away in a way backwards and it remains ridiculous. Not that. I
- 1:26:58think that' s it. It' d be nice to jump into fashion.
- 1:27:02From my point of view, it' s a personal opinion and rapping
- 1:27:05it and it' s not because you make those siligreeks for some almost in
- 1:27:10filigree, it' s not that you put it in danger. True you
- 1:27:12have normal hair, you look shaved and so you imagine why you provoke me
- 1:27:19that I think the truth is that I' m happy with my hair leave
- 1:27:25it, even if it' s all white it is, okay, but
- 1:27:29it doesn' t see you shaved. Sometimes I get virulis that I say
- 1:27:31to do something to me, but not to cut it off. No,
- 1:27:35yes, yes, yes, I don' t say it, because when
- 1:27:39you' re a bunch of a certain thing, you want to do experiments.
- 1:27:42Sometimes I' ve had the same glass, sometimes I' ve got
- 1:27:45the rampoin. But I didn' t say, no, Luis, that
- 1:27:48you' re not. So to say, yes, yes, yes,
- 1:27:49I' m going to put it blue around here, Luis, you'
- 1:27:56re a restless name, and that restlessness has always led you to look for
- 1:28:00a little bit here, over there things of entrepreneurial life too, but also
- 1:28:09in the spiritual, that that' s the I call the spiritual, I
- 1:28:14blind of the human being, not that you don' t see, you
- 1:28:18don' t perceive, but it' s and it' s a very
- 1:28:21important area of human life. Not where that spiritual restlessness is awakened in you
- 1:28:27by something that transcends, say or by the meaning of life as you have
- 1:28:30told me sometimes, for it has been a process. I do not want
- 1:28:36to portray myself when I began to take divine contact with the Lord but to
- 1:28:45answer that question. It' s already advanced, the time is ripe.
- 1:28:51Yes, it is that when, when, when you understand, I do
- 1:28:59not know how they defend to go the full breadth the depth of what Jesus
- 1:29:04has done for us and such from a resting and mature point of view and
- 1:29:11everything that I do not know, your illusions, all these fade away,
- 1:29:15they are not so important and there is something in you that pushes you precisely
- 1:29:23to mature more, to want more and, above all, to stand before
- 1:29:29your referent who is Jesus, and to say, everything is fine, but
- 1:29:34I am here in my hands, my head, my heart are to serve
- 1:29:39that gives you the time, the time in maturity, the work, to
- 1:29:42be in contact with him. And when you' re like this in those
- 1:29:48situations, because really the dialogue is very broad. Dialogue is constant, but
- 1:29:53global. Where a certain moment begins, you say, I have, I
- 1:30:00have to know that God who has revealed himself in Jesus and how you begin
- 1:30:05to listen. But you say, when you listen. I knew Jesus and
- 1:30:10such a good saying, Jesus lived in the early Christian era. How to
- 1:30:15know Jesus is a very subjective thing. How is that and how do you
- 1:30:21get to that moment and from there, what happens to see? If I
- 1:30:27understand the question correctly, I thought I could answer you. It has been
- 1:30:30a process, because if my beginning, from the moment I had my encounter
- 1:30:34with Jesus and I started then, was very very, I will be regent,
- 1:30:43not very mental and things have been posing half that going, learning more,
- 1:30:45doing more look. I' m good. You know I' m
- 1:30:49not in a church called Bethany and she' s given me a formation.
- 1:30:57I have received a training, a very important knowledge. From when I started
- 1:31:02until now. Knowledge has been sesional. I don' t know if any
- 1:31:08other congregation will know to give you so much depth in this, this,
- 1:31:11this is important to gain knowledge, but I' ve always said that knowledge
- 1:31:16is good, that is, it' s very bad. When you don
- 1:31:18' t have it, it' s being ignorant. In this it is
- 1:31:21very bad, but you also have it a lot and it doesn' t
- 1:31:30give out is even worse because then you self justifies and even serves to beat
- 1:31:34others to tell you such. And besides, it immobilizes a lot And such
- 1:31:38And I always whenever I have taken that knowledge is for me the word is
- 1:31:42very important. The verb is action and then all I get is an internal
- 1:31:45personal question. I want to print her action. If I at my word,
- 1:31:51the word I receive, leave it by knowledge, by like a raft
- 1:31:57there quiet, then I would be quiet. But everything I get I want
- 1:32:00to take action and put it in front of me to say how I do
- 1:32:05it, because the truth is, I get a lot of information. I
- 1:32:10don' t know if that' s your question exactly or what you'
- 1:32:13re looking for at the time I answer you. I don' t know
- 1:32:14about that, but the truth is, I' m not. For me
- 1:32:19words are very important and if I don' t say them and if I
- 1:32:23say them, I swear to respect it. So, if I hear them,
- 1:32:27I think I should do the same thing and put it into action.
- 1:32:30I don' t understand a phrase without action. I just don' t
- 1:32:33get it. This means for you the encounter with Jesus, a change of
- 1:32:39life, a change of direction in life, a change of interests, a
- 1:32:43change of priorities. And at first not because it was incomprehensible to your partner,
- 1:32:53your wife, but soon after she also comes to faith. Yes,
- 1:32:58we' ve been very privileged. I in the first person and my house,
- 1:33:02my wife and my daughter have also given themselves, no, that is
- 1:33:05to say that it has been and besides, in a very way I do
- 1:33:11not know how to express it, very notorious, very palpable. It hasn
- 1:33:14' t been like the vast majority of us. It has been an explosive
- 1:33:19and indeed, I have started with me and ended with it, that is
- 1:33:27to say, And besides, it has been a very nice process, very
- 1:33:30nice until reaching that one. I will never forget her when she said,
- 1:33:34she accepted the lord, that is, it was for me an explosion of
- 1:33:38joy, just because she had spent days praying, praying at the doors,
- 1:33:45while she was sleeping, praying that she would not leave me alone and I
- 1:33:49worked wonderfully, really Mariana horllosos. How nice? How nice? If we
- 1:33:53know Mariver who is a really great woman and as she has also internalized this
- 1:33:59alive- seen child then life already has other dynamics and one can work,
- 1:34:06can do, study, can do what the things of life. But it
- 1:34:11impregnates you to Jesus with a different vision. Now, for me, as
- 1:34:15I always say, for me, sir, everything is fine, it is
- 1:34:18correct. I, for me, life and what' s around me is
- 1:34:21fine and what happens is fine. Then I have a prospect of great hope.
- 1:34:30I have a hope, I have a final goal and I live it
- 1:34:33without any anxiety. I live it with peace, patience and above all,
- 1:34:39my priorities have changed. My priorities were dreams determined to get illusions determined to
- 1:34:45get and fight for it and those have lost all their light, that is,
- 1:34:51they are still there. I don' t feel like doing things.
- 1:34:54And so, but it is no longer the priority. It' s not
- 1:34:57the priority for me, it' s not the first thing for my house
- 1:35:00or my wife. We have another life, for a much more patient life.
- 1:35:04That' s interesting, Luis, and now that you say life.
- 1:35:11Evidently, life goes on, but you have another worldview. And it all
- 1:35:16started well, it started before, but there was a turning point and it
- 1:35:21was the Festival of Hope, true, in the two thousand fifteen in Barcelona.
- 1:35:26Yes, and just a month later I' d say we go,
- 1:35:31because it was older, true May festival In the beginning and I have it
- 1:35:36pointed out to you because I started writing the day I had that meeting.
- 1:35:39It was June 15, just a month. I remember it was just a
- 1:35:44month later. That' s where it all started, where it all really
- 1:35:48started from a man and a family in danger and a man in distress until
- 1:35:57he had lost everything. It is that we had lost everything and distressed to
- 1:36:00the extreme, to the extreme of being, because that working, trying to
- 1:36:06work that did not work and, at the same time, begging and saying
- 1:36:10if you are there, if it is true, to make a terrible anguish.
- 1:36:12Because, well, at the end of all that, I clearly saw
- 1:36:15myself that if there was no solution, I was in the street, in
- 1:36:18the very street and with my wife and children, and such in the very
- 1:36:21size. Look, yes, and what moments, even in the most dramatic
- 1:36:28moments of life. We began to experience changes gradually and not only comfort,
- 1:36:38but recovery, overcoming those crises that apparently have no way out, that leave
- 1:36:45you really morally ruined, yes, spiritually, physically and you say so far
- 1:36:54I cannot believe it. I haven' t been a bad person, I
- 1:36:57haven' t been a bad person, I haven' t done anything and,
- 1:37:00without being in front of me. I have nothing but a mess.
- 1:37:01Besides, it was a change of everything you know July in a change from
- 1:37:06a very affluent situation, very quiet, to a sudden situation, of total
- 1:37:14disaster that is, to say we had to sell everything at home total,
- 1:37:17that is, we were on the sides. In those situations there are people
- 1:37:21who can think of crazy things like I' m going to say this,
- 1:37:29life doesn' t make sense to me it' s all gone and for
- 1:37:32me it wasn' t like that. I' ve never really thought about
- 1:37:34ending life or anything like that. That no, no, no, the
- 1:37:38truth is that that never failed again. That' s in that sense.
- 1:37:41No, God, thank God, that hasn' t happened in my head,
- 1:37:44that has to be really hard. Fortunately, that part does not,
- 1:37:47but everything else does, that is, everything of emptiness of loneliness, of
- 1:37:54everything I have lost and I do not know where I will go from some
- 1:37:59total despair such total, that is, of having me here on the floor
- 1:38:01where we were and not knowing how to do it, that is to say
- 1:38:06horrifying of ros hears. The radio also had its share. No, yeah,
- 1:38:11like, casually, random, well, random, maybe not. The
- 1:38:16question is that looking for it, because the word came out and so and
- 1:38:21so clear, when a good determined people are, when you are in those
- 1:38:27situations, anything that today is of hope, you apply yourself immediately and there
- 1:38:31came out the announcements of the festival of hope. I say hope. If
- 1:38:35I had hope and that was repetitive, but I also saw it, I
- 1:38:40mean, I heard it on the radio and so it' s the one
- 1:38:45who hung me and then I saw it on the posters, it' s
- 1:38:47just that it went outside the amazing advertising, the buses. I remember,
- 1:38:49the great life, I remember the grit that was all on billboards and so
- 1:38:54that took me. And then he also agreed that a friend, because he
- 1:39:00was also going to the festival and he told me listen if you want,
- 1:39:03anyone had only one Catalan, a Catalan friend from Girona, from Girona,
- 1:39:09José to Liuseh. Yeah, hey, well, if you want to see
- 1:39:12us and Taría opened my door like that, I don' t have to
- 1:39:14go alone anymore I don' t have to mask. There you go.
- 1:39:15So, okay, I' m going and that' s where it all
- 1:39:18started. It all started like this. That' s the communication from the
- 1:39:23waves that made me talk about it is to see it out there and it
- 1:39:26' s a person and I said I' m good at it. We
- 1:39:30must see how many things happen so that God manifests himself in us uses a
- 1:39:35human medium. Someone took me, Jesus. Not someone caught me, but
- 1:39:41not with bad arts. No, it didn' t catch me well and
- 1:39:45really well. Besides, that' s what I was living at the time.
- 1:39:47Now I can see it now, then I can' t, when
- 1:39:50you' re with the water around your neck. But now I can live
- 1:39:54it with I don' t know if with illusion, but with joy and
- 1:39:58joy. Yes, because that change is my life, our life, my
- 1:40:01precious wife of my children. And to give the change that he has given
- 1:40:06is good, it has no parallel, that is to say, We live
- 1:40:10much better for so much abundance that we could really have. I say,
- 1:40:13uh, you live a lot better and you say Jorge what hope to find.
- 1:40:17And it has given me something very important, that I think we want
- 1:40:19it all those who are in the faith, not everyone. In other words,
- 1:40:25it has given us, as I say to you, a discernment that
- 1:40:28separates us from the world in a very clear way and gives us great joy
- 1:40:31and it is I who am capable as a discernment of a brother, a
- 1:40:39companion when we look at ourselves or look us in the eyes. If we
- 1:40:41touch each other or hug each other, knowing that' s true. I
- 1:40:45have that feeling of discernment, of saying oysters, this embrace, that which
- 1:40:49we are saying is true. I' m not gonna hurt this person.
- 1:40:55I am not going to hurt him and, if possible, I am going
- 1:40:57to help myself against others too. And that separates you a little bit from
- 1:41:01a world in which that has no importance, love, companionship and such is
- 1:41:04something absolutely groped, mistreated, etcetera. And that discernment, I don'
- 1:41:12t know if it' s the word of history, but that contact of
- 1:41:15saying oysters, you and I form stones from the same building, it'
- 1:41:23s also a treasure. How many things, how many happy good moments,
- 1:41:30because it is to move from a situation of uncertainty to a situation of full
- 1:41:39trust in a real god. I remembered Donald Hitower singing that song that I
- 1:41:44had the privilege of having home a few years ago too. Yes, because
- 1:41:47I was already a believer and we invited her to Cel Sadai festivals and sang
- 1:41:55my god is real in me all look. I didn' t know she
- 1:42:01was a very committed woman and attended the Sadai festivals we did in Barcelona.
- 1:42:08Life and freedom. I also organized festivals to raise up for the homes we
- 1:42:15have had in Latin America, specifically in Colombia, in Medellín, and also
- 1:42:21today we have in San Pedro Sula, in Honduras of gag children, street
- 1:42:26children, helpless mothers, battered women and all and good infinity of children who
- 1:42:31are already men and families who have formed, because it is twenty- eight
- 1:42:35years to rescue and she, because in front of this, I had a
- 1:42:43heart of solidarity, I said I will be with you and clear gift to
- 1:42:47he dougle, but my god is real, real in me has washed me
- 1:42:51with his crimson blood and he told us. She told us so many things
- 1:42:55just like that. Yes, then, dear Louis, Hey, thank you
- 1:43:00for your openness, for your transparency and tell us your name as you,
- 1:43:06a common man, as one of so many does not fully find Christ and
- 1:43:14the Gospel of Jesus. The good news changes your life, and I'
- 1:43:16ve certainly changed it. We testify to that. Who hears us if he
- 1:43:25is in the faith, understands everything perfectly, If he is not or is
- 1:43:28looking for something and such hearing we may say good people who have had me
- 1:43:31who know something mystical and such I would tell him to force themselves a little,
- 1:43:36to force themselves a little, to say oysters, because this is a
- 1:43:41decision. It' s not lightning that melts you or a kick in the
- 1:43:45ass that' s gone forward. It' s a decision, if you
- 1:43:48make a decision, that you need to have your own corromonition, that you
- 1:43:55really fill it up, that you see it coming and you' ll see
- 1:43:59that from there all are inputs. Yeah, yeah. So, dear friend,
- 1:44:01thank you for being on the train of life that is your train.
- 1:44:04Also, uh, you' re part of this train. He knows about
- 1:44:10the life of so many landscapes. Thank you for coming, Luis, Dear
- 1:44:14One give fair the next, until the next to all, until then,
- 1:44:29bye You, the train of life, life today can be a great day.
- 1:44:43Your word didn' t say. I just believed and reacted today I
- 1:44:50decided to be brave, even though in my mind my mistakes want me to
- 1:44:58be kind. It' s a robe I didn' t give up and
- 1:45:05come and I feel like the abe day came is calling walnut jan always sing.
- 1:45:15I feel like the day has come is that I say is to sing
- 1:45:25new songs, to be a day of life, to fight, to make
- 1:45:33tell yourself, not to have my reasons and it is the dja to feel
- 1:45:49that I can love well or give him pebe. Today can be a great
- 1:45:53day. This heart was asleep, but you did it, but today I
- 1:46:01' m just looking ahead. I' m going to make a point and
- 1:46:08apart for if I take resuscitation it' s the merchandise. I feel like
- 1:46:16he' s here, I' d say it' s a day of
- 1:46:29candour, new songs It' s a day of jealous anger. It'
- 1:46:36s the way you feel that you can love. S bunga a day of
- 1:46:46making good decisions, day of telling us if the truth, day of touching
- 1:46:53our hearts, day of knowing how to forgive us and must return to the
- 1:47:00source to stay in never day ever to tempt the strong way to distrust your
- 1:47:05will. It' s the day of singing new things and actions. It
- 1:47:17' s life' s day you read it was mine not to have my
- 1:47:27reasons. It' s the day I feel I can love. And this
- 1:47:33day of not having my reasons is the day of feeling that cave more.
- 1:47:44I' m glad you felt it was londonr to Valente. Feeling after mara
- 1:47:57today is a great What you do walking down the bike lane like you don
- 1:48:05' t have wax. More and more people are encouraged to ride a bicycle
- 1:48:09to move around the city. So, in many places where there was only
- 1:48:14sidewalk before, now there is also bike lane all drivers, cyclists, bikers
- 1:48:19and pedestrians share the street in the city if we respect each other. There
- 1:48:26' s room for everyone. Directorate- General for Traffic, Ministry of the
- 1:48:30Interior, Government of Spain. Never leave me alone in the bathtub or places
- 1:48:33with water. Don' t say they emit luis fingers and in an i
- 1:48:38plug. Don' t tell me at the age of an open window.
- 1:48:40I told him to use tonics or mycamintos, and you let me swallow small
- 1:48:46specks of toys. If you neglect your blade, you can be dangerous to
- 1:48:50your children. Don' t neglect, avoid accidents, so you want more
- 1:48:54Ministry of Health and Consumer Affairs a Government of Spain. John be one hundred
- 1:49:00and eighty euros a month in suffering. Alberto invests 200 euros in extortion,
- 1:49:04Carlos invests 150 euros in kidnappings. Every time you pay you' re investing
- 1:49:10in mobs, extortion quits. Help them out, don' t invest in
- 1:49:15suffering against trafficking in women. The Government of Spain is aware of this.
- 1:49:25You travel on the train of life hello. Friends. I' m Julio
- 1:49:45Perez. You know that I am the director of the radio program the weekly
- 1:49:54magaxin, the train of life, and it does nothing less than thirty-
- 1:49:58two years that we travel through many human landscapes and many curiosities and things of
- 1:50:03life, earthly life and heavenly life. I also have the joy of telling
- 1:50:12you that I have published my book, a book that has to do with
- 1:50:15the train of life. There are fifty selected articles written by me. There
- 1:50:24are six seasons and in each season there is a section of eight reflections,
- 1:50:31temporary reflections for an eternal destiny. These are the things I tell in this
- 1:50:35book. They are perceptions, analysis, experiences, comments that are not curious
- 1:50:47in those fifty reflections, in those six stations, until we arrive at the
- 1:50:51station, a term that there is also a section, a very important block.
- 1:50:57This book can already be found on Amazon on the editorial platform of Amazón.
- 1:51:02Traveling on the train of life is called the book. It' s
- 1:51:05the title of the book traveling on the train of life, Julio Pérez,
- 1:51:13a server is the author, so there you can well know that the train
- 1:51:18tells us about trips, trips through life. Life is a kind of living
- 1:51:23parable, like a running train, that there are so many sensations and so
- 1:51:29many experiences inside the train and what we are seeing inside and what we see
- 1:51:33from the train out. Well, that' s where I suggest you get
- 1:51:40access to this book, look at this book. I' ve done it
- 1:51:42with a lot of love. I think there are things that are very affectionate,
- 1:51:45very very intimate and others not so intimate, are very open, but
- 1:51:50it is a book that I have done from the heart and with the heart
- 1:51:56traveling on the train of life is the title a servant Julio Pérez on the
- 1:52:00editorial platform of Amazon. You can find him. The book has a cost
- 1:52:06of fifteen euros in about 180 pages and everything collected from that book is invested,
- 1:52:14reinvested in the radio project of Onda Paz or Napu and in the train
- 1:52:20of life. Of course it is part of the project so that this is
- 1:52:27put on and kept going as long as it never stops So, I remind
- 1:52:30you and I thank you in advance for buying my book on Amazon' s
- 1:52:34platform. Traveling on the train of the life of a servant Julio Pérez,
- 1:52:41Thank you always, the train of life, an exciting journey along the routes
- 1:53:00of the heart, an unforgettable trip at the rhythm of trem as this is
- 1:53:15the fifth n fifth studio album. Let' s say, no, let
- 1:53:24' s say we' ve done another simpler work, model type, but
- 1:53:33this is let' s say in the fifth job with the name salt one
- 1:53:38hundred and fifty thirty thirty years. Yeah, yeah, so we know each
- 1:53:40other and we used to play together before, but they were more folk still
- 1:53:48was dulcinea folk, but with the name is one hundred and fifty to thirty
- 1:53:58years, middle job is look. It' s like when we write songs,
- 1:54:02we do it together, too. No one has an idea, we
- 1:54:06' re working and when someone doesn' t agree with something, that'
- 1:54:13s not because it was that. The signal has to be changed. For
- 1:54:15that to be desired, it is that we all agree and this book,
- 1:54:18as it has been said with a longer song. He started yes, he
- 1:54:29started writing it, and at first I told him ufff clearly to put all
- 1:54:35those complicated days back in writing, because it was hard. But we also
- 1:54:42saw as we were writing, that it was good, that as we wrote
- 1:54:47we didn' t cry so much. It was no other way to express,
- 1:54:55to express sadness, or it was a more expression than then, as
- 1:55:00it arises from living very surreal moments. Not when well, after the news
- 1:55:14that our daughter had died, because in the middle of Shok, because he
- 1:55:20is a jock not very strong, we see in one day making very hard
- 1:55:31decisions to even as we were with such a strong blow, not making decisions
- 1:55:38like, for example, what kind of coffin you are going to put your
- 1:55:44daughter. No, if she' s going to be buried, if she
- 1:55:46' s going to be cremated, how she' s going to go she
- 1:55:53wasn' t here too because she died in Barcelona. That' s what
- 1:55:54we saw in Tarragona an hour to a hundred kilometers and those things that you
- 1:56:00have that, that kind of surrealism that live at that moment, caused a
- 1:56:09desire to translate it into a paper and then, well, I was going
- 1:56:13to take my notes there for the truth that I didn' t sleep much.
- 1:56:15I was very exposed to the normal. Not full, as it revealed
- 1:56:19me and I felt like a need to describe, to point out the little
- 1:56:24things, these things and taking little drawing. I like to draw also and
- 1:56:29type notebook on board, a notebook so to take note and good, but
- 1:56:36of course, being in the tanatorium, it is nice to make a little
- 1:56:42spoiler of the book worth being in the tanatorium. The second day, because
- 1:56:45some relatives, from Rosa' s family, come to the tanatorio and when
- 1:56:51they got there, of course, the first thing they said was that'
- 1:56:59s fucking Catalan shit, that' s a fucking way and we were at
- 1:57:05a clear moment you' re like that says well, you don' t.
- 1:57:10Case is normal. People express themselves and how to say oyster this is
- 1:57:14like saying, this is not fair, it is not fair. And,
- 1:57:17well, we received him, we had some time with them. But that
- 1:57:23night, after having fired Ana' s funeral, our daughter' s,
- 1:57:28from the funeral ceremony, that same night, because I had a dream dream
- 1:57:32that I dreamt that we were at some kind of congress, as it seemed
- 1:57:38to be what we' re here today with bookstores with people who put their
- 1:57:45self- help books, very interesting books. And then we dreamt that we
- 1:57:48had written a book and that book was in a corner. There, no
- 1:57:54one listened to him. It was on a table, a black trap,
- 1:57:59nobody sold it. It was like a little, like abandoned okay and there
- 1:58:04wasn' t a price either. You could get there and in a hole
- 1:58:06of these piggy mud, you would put the coin you wanted. And that
- 1:58:15in the dream. Then, in the dream, I approached to see the
- 1:58:17book. And the book was called a fucking piece of shit with the current
- 1:58:25cover. In other words, the book has the cover quite similar to the
- 1:58:29men are our experiences, as Miguel said at the time, especially in the
- 1:58:34first part of the duel, that first Shok. Then also the mourning for
- 1:58:43our son, little Yuan, who died about ten years ago. And then
- 1:58:50these two duels. Well explained this first stage, in what you ask yourself
- 1:58:57so many questions, in what it means to have faith does not remove the
- 1:59:03pain nor do you have to pass it the same. But it makes a
- 1:59:10difference. And so the book talks about this, about how we have experienced
- 1:59:15this process. Of course we think at the same time that like us,
- 1:59:23we explain how we have lived it and think that, within what fits,
- 1:59:29it has been so far. Well, elaborate, because, because we can
- 1:59:32move on, we can enjoy life, we can still have illusions to live,
- 1:59:39because maybe it has some tool or some key for people who may also
- 1:59:47go through similar or good duels, we think it can give some good tool
- 2:00:03to us. It has served us much to bear in mind first not to
- 2:00:09stay at that moment, not because it is easy to stay at that moment
- 2:00:15and not to move forward, which is not bad. It' s normal
- 2:00:15for the mind to go to that moment, not because the mind, like
- 2:00:18it' s always looking for a culprit. No, and that has helped
- 2:00:21us to move forward. Not too. One thing we have taken into account
- 2:00:27is having a lot of patience between us and with ourselves, patience why,
- 2:00:32because the mind has suffered a very strong blow and it is normal that things
- 2:00:36happen to you, that you forget, things that are good, that you
- 2:00:41are discouraged, that you are sad, that you cry you can cry you
- 2:00:45can laugh the grief. It' s a process to go through and it
- 2:00:47' s very respectable in every person. Each person can be a different duration.
- 2:00:53And another thing that has served us, because we have decided to be
- 2:00:57together, not to be very close with each other and with friends, friends
- 2:01:02who can really understand you, friends where you don' t have to put
- 2:01:08on a mask, who can be you as you are and who understands you
- 2:01:11and who are there. And maybe you' re going through a duel or
- 2:01:15a person and maybe she doesn' t have a partner, you' re
- 2:01:19not alone or alone, but find yourself a friend, find yourself a friend,
- 2:01:25make up for people who love you and don' t sink, don
- 2:01:28' t just stay in your sadness. The sad one is deep, but
- 2:01:30salt and other than good, which I think is the main one that has
- 2:01:34helped us and is helping us in the process of being here today. It
- 2:01:39is faith to have no faith, to have hope. We have hope in
- 2:01:45what we have hope, that one day we will see our children again and
- 2:01:49embrace them. And that gives us a lot of encouragement to be able to
- 2:01:54wake up one more day and with some illusion, to continue dreaming, to
- 2:02:01continue working, to continue loving us, to continue taking care of our son,
- 2:02:06of Miquel, another son that I have been seventeen years old, and
- 2:02:08to have hope. And that' s why we value him having been able
- 2:02:14to believe, not, as I said pink believe, having faith doesn'
- 2:02:19t take away the pain, because pain is pain and grief hurts. It
- 2:02:21' s pain, but it helps you overcome it and know that one day
- 2:02:30that' s going to happen that pain, one day in that desert we
- 2:02:33crossed. You' ll find a sign that puts the end of the desert
- 2:02:41and our motive is Jesus. We do not believe in Jesus and Jesus because
- 2:02:45we want him to overcome death. No, and we want him to be
- 2:02:49resurrected. And by that fact, we know who our children are with.
- 2:02:56That' s the key. We don' t see them hurt us,
- 2:03:00not because we love them, but we know who they are with and we
- 2:03:04know they' re okay. We know they have more peace than we do.
- 2:03:08No. And the last thing I' d like to say is that
- 2:03:15the time of mourning can be lived in another way. It' s not
- 2:03:18easy for you to feel like a failed person, but you can also live
- 2:03:25it as something to look for the pretty part, no, and the pretty
- 2:03:28part can. If there can be a Hunite part within the duel, it
- 2:03:31is that pain you suffer there is pain because you love and that is ours
- 2:03:41that I can say that until there today has helped us. The truth is
- 2:03:47that the desire to live, that is, we haven' t lost them
- 2:03:55at all times. We said this is awesome, not because in the first
- 2:04:00few days there is like a force that stretches you down, that almost prevents
- 2:04:09you from getting out of bed. It' s not like a force stretching
- 2:04:14you like it' s falling into a well. But the truth is that
- 2:04:16we got up and almost from the beginning, because we wanted to move forward,
- 2:04:24to live, to pull forward. But you do. I can say
- 2:04:29that just last week here, here, in Congress, in the Globe,
- 2:04:35well, God gave us some very special gifts very nice, that well,
- 2:04:43it was several things, it was something that one person felt gave us a
- 2:04:53lot of peace, they were very nice gifts and I said look. I
- 2:04:58feel like we' ve gone through another stage, that we kind of noticed,
- 2:05:03comfort, but the truth is that from almost the first few days,
- 2:05:10the truth is, we had to ask him for strength goodbye. We explained
- 2:05:13that in the book, but we noticed that he gave them to us,
- 2:05:18that in the morning we had the need to go, to walk, to
- 2:05:23go, to say we don' t understand anything God, we need you
- 2:05:30to help us to live, to comfort us, to give us peace,
- 2:05:34to help us to sleep, and we felt as if we were good,
- 2:05:41because in the end look, because we are quite good. There are not
- 2:05:43always times, but the truth is that from the first moment we have noticed
- 2:05:47in fact, they had passed. We said it now, a year ago
- 2:05:54we came to Congress and it had been almost three weeks and we came because
- 2:06:01we wanted to come. It' s just that we said we want to
- 2:06:06go, we want to sing. Well, that hasn' t stopped.
- 2:06:14No, and we know that it is a miracle and that normally, as
- 2:06:18Miguel said, especially in the case of parents, not because losing a child
- 2:06:24is very hard. And in the case of parents, we know a lot
- 2:06:31of people who have stayed as a stop at that moment and their life has
- 2:06:35not progressed and they stay that as dead in life. But the truth is,
- 2:06:43we were saying to see this. The truth is, what we'
- 2:06:46re living is a miracle, so look. We don' t know why
- 2:06:51our daughter' s gone. But what we are living is that it is
- 2:06:56good that we want to live and keep moving forward, to keep improving,
- 2:07:00from Mira, because with the book we said oysters. If the book can
- 2:07:08help someone, perhaps there is already a small purpose. We see one for
- 2:07:17what. We' ve been looking for a reason why this desperate and so
- 2:07:26desperate situation you' re saying this I can' t find the reason anywhere.
- 2:07:35This has been our first year, our first anniversary and perhaps not the
- 2:07:40hardest. Maybe Christmas parties have been tougher, because it' s been a
- 2:07:45party where it' s the first parties without her. It has also coincided
- 2:07:51with my father' s death almost two months ago, almost three hours ago,
- 2:07:58and well, a very beloved person has been needed. But there,
- 2:08:03once again, we have had to embrace hope and although there have been moments
- 2:08:07of sadness, but we have overcome them. We' ve been there,
- 2:08:13we' ve been there, we' ve been there, we' ve
- 2:08:15been there, we' ve been there, we' ve been there,
- 2:08:15we' ve been there, we' ve been there, we' ve
- 2:08:15been there, we' ve been there, we' ve been there,
- 2:08:15we' ve been there, we' ve been there, we' ve
- 2:08:15been there, we' ve been there, we' ve been there,
- 2:08:15we' ve been there. It is not a taboo subject for us.
- 2:08:16We always talked about it the way we were. It is very good to
- 2:08:20express how you are, not either sad or cheerful. We laugh, we
- 2:08:24cry whatever it takes. No, but on the day of her birthday,
- 2:08:28well, of her anniversity, which was gone, it was not a particularly
- 2:08:33sad day, but rather of reflection, Not to say, it has been
- 2:08:37a year as we are and we came to the reflection that we were not
- 2:08:43worse than when she was gone, we had advanced, not, of course,
- 2:08:48we still missed her. We name her every day We remember her very
- 2:08:52much everywhere. Not to joan our little son too, but when you have
- 2:08:58hope, everything changes. There' s no pain, but it' s
- 2:09:03a pain with hope. And you know that every day that goes by is
- 2:09:05one more day, but it' s one less day, because that was
- 2:09:16a very intentional thing to say. We are not going to fall into guilt,
- 2:09:20although it is inevitable at first, especially in the case of our daughter
- 2:09:26who was on top of it, for a suicide is not and it is
- 2:09:35inevitable that guilt comes, but we said we cannot fall into this. No,
- 2:09:39I don' t. Neither have we made mistakes as parents, but
- 2:09:45we have not been bad parents. Then we have loved our children, we
- 2:09:50have cared for them, they have not been mistreated and then we cannot face
- 2:10:01guilt. Then it was very intentional to say no. We are not going
- 2:10:07to command our feelings not to fall to them that, even though we sometimes
- 2:10:13feel this, we command our minds not to, that we cannot and evidently
- 2:10:18even less blame each other. That wouldn' t be a faga by now
- 2:10:22and let' s go. Yes, at first, there was a lot
- 2:10:28of anger, but it was the first days against her, against us,
- 2:10:33against everything. There' s not much anger, but it' s that
- 2:10:39ordering your mind certain things, not telling your mind enough for Yuan. Maybe
- 2:10:46it was easier, because it had been an accident. Then maybe it was
- 2:10:52easier. And I remember she had a moment that we told our mind to
- 2:10:58stop eating your coconut. That' s how the phrase for being at home
- 2:11:05was enough to eat the coconut. He' s not gone. God has
- 2:11:11control of lives, because we believe so. Then that' s enough.
- 2:11:18Now perhaps this process has been more difficult, it has been a little more
- 2:11:26complicated. But we' ve also had to tell our mind no, there
- 2:11:31' s no culprit and it' s true. We have had to forgive
- 2:11:35ourselves, forgive her, forgive people who would have hurt her at some point,
- 2:11:41for forgiveness is a good weapon. But yes, but that was very
- 2:11:48intentional to say. We' re not going to fall into that well.
- 2:11:54Without background, Yes, and the truth that is what we noticed from the
- 2:12:01beginning, that music, because in a certain way it did us how it
- 2:12:07healed us, not to play, not to express, to sing. In
- 2:12:11fact, we have not stopped doing so. We continue to do so and
- 2:12:18because we are here that day he was going to master himself in a clear
- 2:12:24study, obviously, he stopped. Not the group, we stopped everything,
- 2:12:26but it was very curious. No and above all, the title does not
- 2:12:30attract much attention, because it was a title that of a song, that
- 2:12:35single of this album, which is precisely a song had been composed a year
- 2:12:41earlier than we had lived with our daughter, and we call attention because it
- 2:12:45is as if it were for now. Not because it' s called hidden
- 2:12:50reasons and it speaks in the song. In addition, we asked for the
- 2:12:54collaboration of Keila de Papel macheque who is there in that song. The truth
- 2:12:58is, it' s lookin' great, it' s lookin' pretty.
- 2:13:00Listen nice and talk about this desert song we cross, not that sometimes
- 2:13:05we don' t understand why not, how many things happen to us.
- 2:13:09We don' t know why not. We don' t control everything,
- 2:13:13not a little bit, but it says that once you' ve passed it,
- 2:13:18not if you' ve passed it with hope, you' ve spent
- 2:13:24it with the good attitude, not to say, although I don' t
- 2:13:26understand anything, but well the desert has to be crossed, because then you
- 2:13:31find the reason to be hidden. That' s what this song talks about.
- 2:13:31We are very struck by the fact that there was also a song on
- 2:13:37that record entitled" We are not defeated". And it was a bit
- 2:13:39composed of the pandemic issue. We' re not beat, come on,
- 2:13:46we' re moving on. I will resist and so on, but what
- 2:13:48we didn' t imagine that song was going to play a very important role
- 2:13:52right now for us. We' re not beaten, we' re beaten,
- 2:13:56we' re dusted, we' re knocked down. Rife of this
- 2:14:00destroyed. Here' s bo and that' s why that record well,
- 2:14:03because for us we have I don' t know, it has a lot
- 2:14:11of value also to be able to finish it. Now all of us in
- 2:14:15certain cos were able to always find reasons without fresh lived. It' s
- 2:14:43a different day. We' ve gone back to it, we forgot the
- 2:14:54iris, but I know it was tra good, because I don' t
- 2:15:01know. We know honestly we don' t know in fact, I think
- 2:15:09that' s good. For us. Yeah, we' ve never written
- 2:15:11a book before. The truth never crossed my mind to write a book.
- 2:15:16We don' t know and we don' t rule it out either.
- 2:15:18I think so, well, if we feel the desire for the experience we
- 2:15:24are living and there is a good second, I think you have to make
- 2:15:28that wish to translate it. We wouldn' t do it because we'
- 2:15:35re going to make another book, to do it. Otherwise, I think
- 2:15:37we should be sorry. Really. We have nothing else to say about this
- 2:15:43issue or another. No. I hope, well, it' s maybe
- 2:15:50some music day or what we' re doing I don' t know anymore,
- 2:16:11it' s really good. Well, well, yeah, yeah,
- 2:16:13he' s in his duel, too, but he' s doing fine.
- 2:16:18We talked a lot in our house. It is not a taboo issue
- 2:16:22that we are living through. And even though he knows he' s left
- 2:16:26alone because he had two brothers, they' re gone. But there he
- 2:16:30has a very good attitude and he is facing everything with great courage, with
- 2:16:33studies, with sport, the truth that he is giving a very, very
- 2:16:39beautiful size, no and has his moments also of sadness, as everyone does
- 2:16:43not, but he does not hide it neither is not beautiful. Yes,
- 2:16:50before I wanted to say that sadness is also like a tribute, nothing,
- 2:16:56then, that is, when we are sad, we are sad and well,
- 2:17:03it is a clear tribute, we miss it, but we honor it
- 2:17:09no, and the fact of sinking into misery. I don' t think
- 2:17:13I' d honor her. You don' t honor those who have gone
- 2:17:18down. But yes, be sad and pass that sadness, not because somehow
- 2:17:24it' s clear we' re sad. We are therefore at the moment
- 2:17:33in Amazon, it is self published and we hope that soon, because we
- 2:17:39are working. Well, we just signed with an editorial that also works with
- 2:17:45self- published books, called the Red Circle, and in about two months
- 2:17:52we' ll be able to see it through the stores. Yeah, it
- 2:17:56' s going to distribute bookstores, good bookstores, so, putting the title
- 2:18:03that subtitles, living the duel with hope, you can find good. Anne
- 2:18:11were our twenty- two- year- old daughter, very talented, very
- 2:18:22bright, extremely sensitive and good. There a great singer outnumbered us and we
- 2:18:31know that maybe he' ll be in the choir there, heavenly with the
- 2:18:39Angels. We decide sometimes she' ll be there and we' ll see
- 2:18:45her again. So she had a big smile and we want to enjoy her
- 2:18:50smile again. Thank you very much, thank you you travel on the train
- 2:19:18of life. Evangelical churches are a place of peace and friendship. You can
- 2:19:39freely attend the nearest evangelical church in your neighborhood or your population. You'
- 2:19:46ll be very welcome.