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NFL Survivor Pool | 10/28/25 | Week 8 Recap & Strategy Review · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all systems going clear, we lived on.
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  Speaker 2: What is going on everyone, This is sheets and we
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  Speaker 2: have made it to week nine of the Survivor pool experience.
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  Speaker 2: And again just to kind of summarize what this whole
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  Speaker 2: channel is all about. You know, this is very real,
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  Speaker 2: high growth area all these pools and uh, as I've mentioned,
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  Speaker 2: for the next two or three years, this is going
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  Speaker 2: to be just incredible value and a lot of money
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  Speaker 2: to be made. So we're going to be covering Survivor
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  Speaker 2: pools during the NFL season and then also when we
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  Speaker 2: get into the March Madness pools are those are particularly
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  Speaker 2: amazing as well. So again, the way this works is
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  Speaker 2: today we're going to be reviewing what we did last week,
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  Speaker 2: things we talked about, some general concepts, and then tomorrow Wednesday,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to do our premium show where we talk
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  Speaker 2: about week number nine and what a what a fun
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  Speaker 2: ride it's been so far. You know, hopefully you guys
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  Speaker 2: have all learned something and hopefully some of the concepts
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  Speaker 2: that we've talked about have kind of paid dividends and
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  Speaker 2: they have. Okay, so let's talk about as we recap
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  Speaker 2: last week. One of the main concept that I discussed
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  Speaker 2: really even before week one started. Okay, this idea that
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  Speaker 2: that you know, you have this constant battle for expected
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  Speaker 2: value or expected value versus future value. And what I'm
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  Speaker 2: saying right from the beginning is that it's all kind
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  Speaker 2: of a bunch of bs. In other words, it really
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  Speaker 2: is just all about expected value. It's just the question
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  Speaker 2: of when you want to take it. You know, do
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  Speaker 2: you want to take the expected value where it's when
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  Speaker 2: it's not worth anything, or do you want to keep
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  Speaker 2: pushing it to where it might be worth something.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, the the one of the.
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  Speaker 2: Arts that really separates good survivor players from mediocre survivor
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  Speaker 2: players is this ability to know when to transition from
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  Speaker 2: you know, not caring about ev and pushing, pushing, pushing,
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  Speaker 2: to when you're supposed to just start grabbing it. And
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  Speaker 2: it's not easy, but you know, when you set yourself
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  Speaker 2: up for success in the past, this is it all
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  Speaker 2: sort of plays out for you. Okay, So let's let's
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  Speaker 2: let's use as an example. Let's look at what happened
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  Speaker 2: last week. So this is what I talked about. So
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  Speaker 2: for the last five or six weeks, I kept on
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  Speaker 2: identifying there were certain key spots that you really wanted
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  Speaker 2: to have teams available for And the first one that
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  Speaker 2: we were continued we're targeting was this Indianapolis in week
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  Speaker 2: in week eighty, they were the biggest favorite, and people
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  Speaker 2: had used them in earlier weeks, so we had to
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  Speaker 2: keep pushing and pushing and pushing and and not use
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  Speaker 2: them as much as we could so that we had
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  Speaker 2: this opportunity to use them this past week. And because
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  Speaker 2: they were about seventy about sixty five percent used already,
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  Speaker 2: we were able to grab them at extraordinarily strong EV
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  Speaker 2: like they were a fourteen point favorite at like a
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  Speaker 2: EV of one point one six. And now all those
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  Speaker 2: times I said you don't really need the one point
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  Speaker 2: oh three EV or the one point oh two two
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  Speaker 2: EV when every value what every entry is worth, say
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  Speaker 2: one thousand dollars. Now with these values of entries being
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  Speaker 2: forty four hundred, then it was now it was time
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  Speaker 2: to grab this and kind of put the question to
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  Speaker 2: everybody else to try to make that up.
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  Speaker 3: And it's very very difficult.
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  Speaker 2: So what we we were very very clear about Indianapolis
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  Speaker 2: being by far the best play, and that would be
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  Speaker 2: in singles, doubles, triples, quadruples. I even went so far
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  Speaker 2: as to say that, you know, if you had like
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  Speaker 2: multiple entries across all kinds of stuff wherever you had Indianapolis,
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  Speaker 2: you just had to play them. Okay, this was the
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  Speaker 2: time to start dropping these ev bombs up people. Not
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  Speaker 2: to mention the fact that their their their future value
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  Speaker 2: in the future is really not that not that great.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it turns out there they're more amazing than
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  Speaker 2: we thought. So they argue to have spots. But but
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  Speaker 2: compared to what some of these other teams had to
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  Speaker 2: offer as far as future value, this was probably the
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  Speaker 2: easiest play of the year.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And as I mentioned, I know it's hard to do
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  Speaker 2: because I kept on each week, I kept on saying
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  Speaker 2: a little of this, a little of that. To hear
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  Speaker 2: me say just drop everything you have in Indianapolis might
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  Speaker 2: have seemed seemed odd. But but that's what you have
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  Speaker 2: to be able to accomplish. Is when you set up
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  Speaker 2: for these big drops, you have to you have to
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  Speaker 2: pile them.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. And again we were very confident.
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  Speaker 2: We said they were good in singles, best in singles
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  Speaker 2: by a lot, best in doubles by a ton. The
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  Speaker 2: only thing is is that and this is what I
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  Speaker 2: have to This is kind of weird with content, is
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  Speaker 2: that I have to consider what.
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  Speaker 3: Happens if you don't have Indianapolis.
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  Speaker 2: Now, again, there were some spots where I even recommended
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  Speaker 2: using some Indianapolis over the over the last you know,
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  Speaker 2: seven weeks, so there may be some entry you got
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  Speaker 2: unlucky and you didn't have Indianapolis available, so you did
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  Speaker 2: have to have some options otherwise.
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  Speaker 3: But make no mistake.
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  Speaker 2: You know, if you used anybody except Indianapolis when you
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  Speaker 2: could have used Indianapolis, that was really throwing money in
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  Speaker 2: the garbage. Okay, so like for example, we'll get to it,
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  Speaker 2: but like if you use Cincinnati, for example in Atlanta
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  Speaker 2: instead of Indianapolis, that's.
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  Speaker 3: Just a huge mistake. Okay, if you used anybody separate Indianapolis,
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  Speaker 3: it was just a huge mistake.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, I think it's safe to say, you know,
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  Speaker 2: that's objectively it was a huge mistake. So we talked
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  Speaker 2: about what happens if you didn't have Indianapolis available.
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  Speaker 3: And we separate it between two different pools.
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  Speaker 2: So we have pools where you can only make single
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  Speaker 2: picks and then pools where you can have to make
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  Speaker 2: double picks in the future. So I did suggest that
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  Speaker 2: Kansas City would be the second best option, well below Indianapolis, okay,
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  Speaker 2: but certainly the second best option. And then if you
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  Speaker 2: also used Indianapolis and Kansas City, that Philadelphia was gonna
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  Speaker 2: be the next one. I would prefer do you not
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  Speaker 2: use any of those two and you used Indianapolis, but
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  Speaker 2: if you had to drop down to you know, if
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  Speaker 2: you didn't have Indianapolis, you.
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  Speaker 3: Go to Kansas City. You have Kansas City in New England.
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  Speaker 3: I've wanted no part I excuse me, to Philly. I
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  Speaker 3: wanted no part of Buffalo's or all these other stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Now, in tournaments where you needed to make double picks,
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  Speaker 2: I felt as though Indianapolis clearly the best, and then
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  Speaker 2: if you didn't use Indianapolis, then Cincinnati and Atlanta were
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  Speaker 2: the next two. I mean, they were just pretty I
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  Speaker 2: think it was pretty clear, honestly. I mean they there,
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  Speaker 2: Eve was bad, but you know, they had very very
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  Speaker 2: little future value compared to all these other teams, and
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  Speaker 2: I didn't think it was particularly close. So as it
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  Speaker 2: turns out that though, that those two teams both lost.
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  Speaker 2: So if if you didn't have Indianapolis and you were
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  Speaker 2: really following my advice, geez special, hell is this.
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  Speaker 3: What if that came from? That's pretty odd.
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  Speaker 2: But if you did use Kansas City or Atlanta, then
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  Speaker 2: you just you know, then you just lost. And that's
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  Speaker 2: just the way that goes.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so.
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  Speaker 2: Atlanta lost, Cincinnati lost, and so we lost about forty
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  Speaker 2: of what's you mccaud of the pool. So if you
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  Speaker 2: had Indianapolis, it all just kind of worked out for you,
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  Speaker 2: and if you had to drop to these other teams,
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  Speaker 2: it just didn't.
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  Speaker 3: And that's just the way it is.
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  Speaker 2: So that's really the summary, all right. So what you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna see is probably the as we head into week nine.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we don't get too much into this, but
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  Speaker 2: there'll be much less, much less, but you'll see some
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  Speaker 2: very very clear options.
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  Speaker 4: We haven't had the everything update yet.
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  Speaker 2: The we haven't had anything update yet with the new
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  Speaker 2: evs and things like that. That'll probably update with the
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  Speaker 2: next hour or two. Okay at the very earliest, but
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  Speaker 2: we could could update wait till overnight.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure. But it's gonna come down to these,
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  Speaker 3: some of these big favorites.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you get the Rams minus thirteen, Green Bay
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  Speaker 2: minus twelve and a half, the Chargers minus ten, and
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  Speaker 2: then you'll have a couple of other possibilities. You might
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  Speaker 2: have the lions and the rigs, and we'll talk.
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  Speaker 3: About all of those.
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  Speaker 2: But that's pretty much all I had as far as
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  Speaker 2: the recap of what happened last week. I want to
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  Speaker 2: drop one other kind of small announcement here. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: make that really, going to make that really really I'm
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  Speaker 2: trying to keep this a little quiet, but one of
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  Speaker 2: my favorite weekends of the year is this weekend, and
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  Speaker 2: that is a Breeders Cup weekend. And for those that
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  Speaker 2: don't know where my nickname comes from, sheets it is
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  Speaker 2: a derivative of a horse racing data source which I've
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  Speaker 2: been using for quite some time. And not to get
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  Speaker 2: too far into it, but let's just say that if
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  Speaker 2: you followed my horse racing picks and my horse racing content, whatever.
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  Speaker 3: You do really really well. I don't really do any.
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  Speaker 2: Horse racing content though, because it's not worth it for
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  Speaker 2: me and quite honestly, not that many people into horse racing.
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  Speaker 3: But a couple of times a.
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  Speaker 2: Year I will throw a video together on a card
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  Speaker 2: where it really won't affect my price that people might
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  Speaker 2: be interested. I'll do it for the Kentucky Derby, and
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  Speaker 2: then I'll also do it for the Breeders Cup. And
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  Speaker 2: the Breeder's Cup is this weekend, so I'm gonna in
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  Speaker 2: case anybody wants to djen the Breeders Cup, there's a
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  Speaker 2: there's a card Friday, and there's a big card Saturday also,
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  Speaker 2: and so I'm gonna drop a video probably Thursday.
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  Speaker 3: In I guess in this channel. I don't know where
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna drop this.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to get all over the place, but
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  Speaker 2: listen for people who are paying extra for this, and
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  Speaker 2: people were paying extra for things in.
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  Speaker 3: General, I'm more than happy to drop that.
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  Speaker 2: So watch for that Breeders Cup a preview Breeders Cup
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  Speaker 2: video which I will drop into one of the Discord channels. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: so tomorrow three pm we're going to attack week nine
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  Speaker 2: and that's going to do it.
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  Speaker 4: Good luck everybody, Spot.
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  Speaker 5: And still Mother and step mother and step mother mounts
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