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Understanding the political and religious sides of Islam · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  And the only thing that I see happening is that we wind up fighting with each other.
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  And that's basically, I believe, because we don't really have a clear understanding of what this is really all about.
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  What is Islam?
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  Well, there was a quote from the Turkish prime minister, uh, Mr.
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  Erdogan, and I thought it was quite interesting because he said the term moderate Islam is ugly and offensive.
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  There is no moderate Islam.
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  Islam is Islam.
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  So all of the people that think that, oh, there are moderates that we have to work with.
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  Well, unless the moderates actually change what they are doing and put it in writing, it's all the same thing.
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  It all comes from the same book, and that is a book that we as Judeo Christians have no clue or understanding, nor can fathom what they're talking about.
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  Right now, or during this time, the radical mullahs were in charge of Iran, and that is what created a big problem.
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  So what I have done is I have asked a friend who has studied this for a long period of time and has put together the real the truth about what Islam is, what it is about, and what it actually means if we ever allow these people to get in power, which is why I believe President Trump is so hot to say no, these people are crazy, and we can't let them in power.
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  So, Bob Hefley, thank you so much for joining me today.
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  And uh, you are the expert, so I am gonna let you take the lead and explain to all of us what is this fight really all about.
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  Well, thank you very much, Karen.
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  And I um I have to pause when you say expert.
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  I may know more than some of the listeners right now, but uh I've been privileged to work with the real experts, uh, the people who wrote some of the books on this, and uh so I'm pretty much just uh repeating many things that I've heard and learned.
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  Um and of course, I this is my presentation here, it's based on a slideshow that you, Karen, have seen, and I wish that people could see the slides.
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  It makes it easier on me, but I'll go through the information just the way we uh first saw it.
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  We're not here to talk so much about religious beliefs, we're here to talk about behaviors.
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  Because no matter what your religion is uh and how it may or may not affect me, it's how you behave uh about it that that's uh that can affect me.
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  So when it comes to the Muslims, um uh we can dig down deep into the what uh most of us in the Jujao Christian, and by the way, don't leave out the Hindus.
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  Um and some of the other religions out there, uh, because we all share this same problem with uh Islam.
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  So it's their behaviors.
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  Now the title of my presentation is understanding Islam and Muslims.
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  And some people isn't that kind of redundant.
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  Why do you say Islam and Muslims?
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  No, you have to understand the Islam and the process, and then there are different kinds of Muslims.
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  Sadly, a very large number of them uh do not uh uh mean to get along with us.
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  So when you talk about Muslims, you could put adjectives in front of them.
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  You can say radical, orthodox, devout, moderate, uh me know, that's Muslims in name only.
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  Uh live and let live Muslims, and uh and among the people I work with, we have little discussions and arguments sometimes about well, I don't like that term, I don't think uh we should say orthodox or whatever, but I like orthodox because every religion has its orthodoxy, uh, meaning the ones who really um are devout on every word and be it the the Talmud, uh the Bible or what have you and the processes, and then there's the live and let lives.
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  Um there are live and let live Muslims, they might live down the street from you, one might be your dentist, um, or your orthodontist or whatever, and they're enjoying American life.
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  Um, and they don't really have any ill will against us.
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  That can change, that will change if and when the Muslims become a majority in your particular area, you'll notice that those people, their attitudes will change, and they're they're very good examples for this.
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  Uh I can tell you about later.
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  So when it comes to orthodox Islam, the ones who follow the the Quran and the hadith uh by the letter, uh intelligence uh organizations, uh CIA and MI6 and Great Britain and so forth have gotten together and they pretty much uh agreed that only 17 to 20 percent of the Muslims in the world are orthodox.
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  Well, 17% of 2.06 uh billion people is 340 million people that's approaching the population of the United States.
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  That's how many Orthodox there are.
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  Many Orthodox there are.
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  They're the ones that follow the precepts of um, you know uh of killing other people who are not uh believers in Islam.
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  They're the ones that follow the precepts of you know of killing other people who are not uh believers in Islam.
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  So an interesting thing is uh if I were to ask anybody there listening, uh, when do you think our problems with Islam started?
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  So an interesting thing is uh if I were to ask anybody there listening, uh, when do you think our problems with Islam started?
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  Most people um was 9-11, of course, pops up immediately.
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  Most people um was 9 11, of course, pops up immediately.
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  Um it actually started before we were a country.
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  Um it actually started before we were a country.
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  Um I could paraphrase a letter from Christopher Columbus to uh King Ferdinand and Queen Isabel, who you all learned in grade school, they financed Columbus's uh discovery of America, as it were.
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  He made like six trips over here, by the way.
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  Everybody thinks he made one trip.
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  But uh I I won't I can't quote it because it's uh the translation doesn't come out kind of funny, but basically he's saying that your highnesses um as devoted Christians and enemies of the sect of Muhammad and all idolatries and heresies.
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  Uh you've resolved to send me uh to find the Indies.
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  We all know he was looking for India, right?
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  Uh, and he thought he could do that by floating west.
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  So um the motivation uh for this was why would Ferdinand and Isabel care about this?
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  Well, Islam had shut down all the trade routes to um China and Asia, India and so forth.
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  I have a little map that shows this.
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  Uh it was having a big impact on Europe.
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  Um, and it was long just shut them down, and uh they couldn't uh trade anymore.
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  So that's why Columbus sailed over and eventually discovered America.
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  Now, the pilgrims.
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  Um, you wouldn't think they knew much about Islam, but guess what?
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  Um Governor Bradford, who you may know about, um, was the first governor, um so-called governor of uh uh of the the pilgrims and they're organized here.
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  Um they worked very hard, a lot of them died, and it took a couple of years, but uh they were actually a corporation, and they had a deal to send goods back to England.
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  That's what financed their trip.
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  They finally had a ship full of materials to go back to England.
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  These are uh beaver uh uh beaver skins and things that were considered a uh kind of uh um rare in Europe.
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  Um these are all unique things from the uh United States, and they're very happy.
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  They filled up a ship uh full of all sorts of things to send back to England, and it was intercepted by a uh Turkish man of war uh within sight of Plymouth, England, uh taken over and floated down to the Barbary states.
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  So uh there's an interesting quote um from him.
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  I won't read that either, but he's pretty much says, hey, things were going so well, it was so nice to see that ship leaving over the horizon from us, and uh it never made it to England because of the Muslims.
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  So there's that.
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  Now, the first president to have a problem with Muslims was the first president, George Washington.
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  Um, what was happening was that uh our merchant ships uh right after this the uh revolutionary war, our merchant ships uh were going to Europe and going into the Mediterranean uh to uh to take merchandise and do trade and so forth, and they were being captured, and their crews were being enslaved along the uh North African states of uh Morocco, Algeria, um Libya, so forth.
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  They had different names back then.
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  And uh, and they were recaptured by the Barbary pirates.
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  And when you say pirates, we think of the Hollywood version of a pirate, which is very entertaining, a patch over the eye and all that.
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  Uh this was state-sponsored piracy.
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  These pirates worked for the various governors of these uh leaders of these uh uh countries, and of course, they took their percentage of the loot, and the rest went to the country.
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  So, over a period of uh 60 years, one million Europeans and Americans were killed or enslaved by the Barbary pirates.
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  Uh these guys actually went all the way up to Ireland and landed at some Irish coastal cities and killed and raped and you know, killed most of the men, took some of the women and children with them.
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  Um that's what was going on.
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  So, Washington asked uh his ambassador to um to France, it was uh Jefferson, and his ambassador to uh they weren't called ambassadors then, but ambassador to England, which was Adams, to meet with uh the ambassador from uh present-day Libya.
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  Um Tripoli is what it was called then, of course, but then now it's a city in Libya.
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  So they sat down with the ambassador from Libya to the UK, spoke perfect English, of course.
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  I think he was educated in England, and Jefferson and Adam sit down with him and said, and asking how can we stop this um uh the these pirates from from shutting down all of our our commerce, you know, what's going on?
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  What is this?
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  Um the guy stared across the table and said, among other things, it is their right and duty to make war on non-believers everywhere.
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  And I'm guessing he was a bit sympathetic.
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  I mean, this guy's living in England, he was sophisticated.
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  He understood that these guys have no idea what they have in store for them.
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  And he was just explaining.
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  He's probably saying, this is not my idea, but this is the way Islam operates.
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  These countries have a right to do what they're doing.
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  You're non-believers, and we can take your ships and keep all your stuff, and your people will be slaves.
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  So when Jefferson uh figured this out, uh he uh well after this meeting, he went out in London and bought himself a Quran, uh, which he began to study.
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  Um unfortunately, what we had to do is get go into the Treaty of Tripoli, uh, and uh, and I'll read it very quickly here.
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  The government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on Christian religion, as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility of Muslim men.
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  Um Muslim is the way it was spelled, but that's the way they said the Muslims at the time.
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  This was signed in 1797 under duress, obviously.
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  We definitely thought we were a Christian nation, but we had to put that in there to satisfy the Barbary states.
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  But we had to put that in there to satisfy the Barbary states.
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  And uh the whole thing was just a slap in the face.
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  And the whole thing was just a slap in the face.
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  When Jefferson became president, he had this rewritten, by the way.
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  When Jefferson became president, he had this rewritten, by the way.
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  Now, interesting thing is to this day, atheists who fight who argue against uh the influence of religion on our government and so forth, they use this treaty to say, look, we even put it in writing that that we were not in any sense founded on a Christian religion.
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  Now, interesting thing is to this day, atheists who fight who argue against uh the influence of religion on our government and so forth, they use this treaty to say, look, we even put it in writing that we were not in any sense founded on a Christian religion.
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  Uh so technically they're using that uh.
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  So technically they're using that uh against us.
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  But so that was the situation uh then.
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  And by 1800, 20% of the U.S.
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  budget went to the Barbary Coast states as tribute payments.
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  Now think about that.
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  20% of the budget went to pay tribute to the Barbary states as part of their agreement of okay, we'll let your ships come through and go ahead on to Italy and Spain and so forth, but you pay us.
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  That's the way the game was played.
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  Jefferson knew that um, well, actually, Adams, our second president, he began building our naval fleet, which we really didn't need at the time.
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  But England certainly wasn't going to help us, and France couldn't afford to help us anymore.
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  So we needed these ships.
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  So some of the great original uh old ironsides and the constitution and so forth uh were built during the Adams administration, knowing that we needed to have a navy to go to war.
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  By the time Jefferson became um president, uh he knew certainly that we were going to have to go to war, and of course we did because we had the Barbary Wars.
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  There were two of them.
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  It's a long story.
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  Um any Marines listening to this, they know that there's him from the Halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli.
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  Well, that's the Barbary states.
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  Frankly, they did not um do classic marine amphibious operation to the shores of Tripoli.
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  They actually went to Alexandria, Egypt and walked across the desert uh to attack them um uh from the east.
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  Under the command of an army general, by the way.
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  My marine friends don't enjoy hearing that.
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  Um so John Quincy Adams uh had a quote the the precept of the Quran is perpetual war against all who deny that Muhammad is the prophet of God.
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  So, in summary, our first four presidents basically, in my opinion, knew far more about Islam than our past uh ten presidents, uh certainly four, five, ten of the modern era.
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  It's it's amazing how much um our government leaders uh uh still don't understand about Islam.
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  But those first few presidents, they got it because they were confronted with it.
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  Um I'll shift gears to the Quran.
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  Um just basic things you need uh to understand about it.
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  Um Muslims believe that the uh Quran is direct, is the direct words of Allah.
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  Uh what Muhammad explained was he would see the angel Gabriel, we would call Archangel Gabriel, and whatever the angel Gabriel said were the words that Allah gave Gabriel to say to Muhammad.
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  Um, of course, they say Allah is God, and well, I have some other ideas about that, but 61% of the Quran is about how Muslims are to deal with non-Muslims.
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  And to this day, any Orthodox devout Muslim, they're following this.
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  Um they may act like your friend, but they're not allowed to be your, you're not allowed to be their friend.
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  They can't take you as friends and so forth.
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  They may or may not believe this, but 61% of the Quran is how to deal with us.
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  There are 245 verses that are positive about non-Muslims.
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  Um, we're people of the book.
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  Uh it all throughout the Quran, it's uh it's like this.
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  However, you have to understand the doctrine of abrogation.
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  Now, in an English term, we we use abrogation also, and then something cancels something else out.
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  Of the 245 verses that are positive about non-Muslims, all are abrogated by 527 verses of intolerance of how to deal uh with us.
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  Uh 109 verses advocating violence against non-Muslims, and that is strike their necks wherever you find them.
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  There's maybe you've heard some of these quotes yourself, but there's no shortage of quotes of how to handle um us non-believers, which, and by the way, we're people of the book as Christians.
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  If you're a Christian, you're people of the book, and even the Jews are uh people of the book.
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  The religion that is suffered the most from uh Islam is is Islam itself.
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  The uh they've been killing each other for this very beginning.
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  As far as the numbers go, that between the Shiites and the Sunnis, and we're seeing this right now, you know, Iran is a Shiite country, um, they've been killing each other.
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  The second, if I ask somebody, which religion as a population has suffered most from Islam by way of being wiped out, uh and people immediately say the Jews.
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  Nope.
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  Uh it's Islam itself, and a close seconds are the Hindus.
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  Um, there's no problem convincing the Hindus that there's a problem with with uh Muslims.
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  They get it.
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  Uh the Jews come in third, and then the Christians fourth, and it goes on from there.
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  So the doctrine of abrogation is that later verses of the Quran supersede the earlier verses.
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  And there's even a verse in the Quran where supposedly Allah says, whatever verse, quote, whatever verse we may annul or cause they to forget, we will bring a better one than it, or one like it.
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  Doth thou not know that God is mighty over all, end quote.
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  So what we have is so-called God saying, if I change my mind, I'll just tell you something better later on.
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  Uh, that really doesn't um line up with our picture of God and our own uh uh our own holy books, as it were.
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  So that's the doctrine of abrogation.
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  And um, and the use of abrogation is directly coordinated to Mohammed's career.
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  Uh he started out in uh in Mecca.
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  Uh he was peaceful, nonviolent.
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  He had only like 85 followers.
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  Like 85 followers.
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  They made fun of him.
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  They made fun of him, they disrespected him, and so he finally moved to Medina over a 22 year period.
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  They disrespected him.
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  And so he finally moved to Medina over a 22-year period.
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  Um, that he went from being very peaceful to very, very violent.
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  Um, that he went from being very peaceful to very, very violent.
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  And uh all the violence we see today is documented during the uh Medina period.
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  And uh all the violence we see today is documented during the uh Medina period.
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  Um interesting thing is the Quran is uh organized by the size of the verse, no chronology whatsoever, no um sort of uh connection with themes.
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  Um interesting thing is the Quran is uh organized by the size of.
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  So imagine if you took the Bible or the Talmud or whatever your holy book might be and say, all right, let's just uh take these paragraphs, and the littlest one's gonna be first, and the longest one is going to be at the end.
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  Think I'll jumbled up that would be.
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  And that's what the Quran is.
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  Um, and a lot of people can't, you know, uh don't nobody really understands why they even the Muslims can't really explain why it happened that way.
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  So um, I'll give you an example here of something written in the Meccan period.
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  Um, where it says, okay, this is in the Quran.
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  The true servants of the most merciful are those who behave gently with humility on earth.
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  Okay, that's Quran 2563.
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  Uh, that's a nice thing.
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  Uh something you see in the Bible or any other religious thing, and they behave gently and so forth.
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  Well, that was abrogated by one of the last verses of the Quran.
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  And that is fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them.
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  Take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.
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  This is what we're seeing over the world right now.
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  We have been seeing it for a long time, but now it's popping up, finally popping up in the news.
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  When uh uh person in England is walking down the street, gets attacked by somebody with a hatchet and his head's cut off.
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  Uh, this is something that happened like three years ago.
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  Um, this is it.
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  Fight and kill the disbelievers.
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  That is orthodoxy, and they are allowed to do that.
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  Uh they are not allowed to do it, they're commanded to do that.
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  That is their religious duty.
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  Um, so we have to understand that.
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  And there's a lot of them who obviously don't want to do that.
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  The Muslim down the street from you is not gonna um fight and kill you.
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  You are a disbeliever, um, until maybe um uh they feel like they need to until they get more numbers.
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  I I don't know, I don't know.
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  Um there is a great chart uh done on which you can see it.
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  It shows the uh behavior of Islam in a country that um in accordance with the size of the Muslim population.
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  And I'm trying to read this here, and this is an old chart, and I'm looking for an update.
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  Because, for instance, when there's less than two percent Muslim population, um it's a peace loving minority, and that was United States, Australia, China, and other places from two to five percent.
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  Um, they recruit ethnic minorities in prisons and gangs.
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  Uh, and that's in Denmark, Germany, UK, etc.
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  I could go on and on, but as the numbers build up, um, we're already at some of these points.
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  Uh 10% population is lawlessness threats, uh, riots, Mohammed cartoon riots.
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  Boy, and that's this is strange.
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  This was written before there was actually a Mohammed cartoon riot in uh in France, and then one over here.
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  Uh, and it tells you what countries are under the influence of this.
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  And if you look at this pattern, you can just see the way the world is moving.
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  This is really coming true.
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  This old probably 15-year-old chart.
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  Um, Bob, yes, uh, we are going to have to have a break, and I am absolutely not amazed.
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  I know other people are probably amazed at how the patterns from the past are continuing today.
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  And if we only had a clear understanding of what the Muslims, the is the Islamists were about, a lot of this would have been stopped before it was even started.
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  And this is one of the reasons why learning history is so important.
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  So, Bob, I'm gonna ask you to come back after the break, and we will continue uh our lesson on the truth about Islam.
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  And thank you so much for putting this together.
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  It is truly wonderful.
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  Uh, we will be right back, folks.
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  This is Karen Chone.
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  You're listening to The Prism of America's Education brought to you on the America Outloud.news network.
• 30:50
  I have asked Bob to join me back again and continue our lesson in what Islam is all about and what it means.
• 31:00
  And I was just uh having a conversation with him, and I was reminded how our uh Janet Napolitano under Obama and Bush scrubbed, purged all of references to jihad to is to radical Islam from all of the training manuals in the CIA and the FBI.
• 31:23
  If you don't know the enemy that you're fighting, you don't fight the enemy.
• 31:27
  And this is the problem that we are experiencing today because most people have no clue who these people are.
• 31:35
  And to see them uh shouting in the streets, um, you know, gaze for Islam or Palestine when I know full well that the first thing they would do is kill them because that's forbidden in their religion, and nobody knows that is a crime.
• 31:52
  So uh I have asked Bob to come back and continue the lesson so that we are all well aware of what is going on in this country and how we will not wind up like Europe.
• 32:04
  Thank you, Bob, for joining me again.
• 32:05
  I'm gonna let you get right into it, and I'm not even gonna interrupt you because your information is so important.
• 32:12
  Well, thank you.
• 32:13
  And I'll uh pick up where we left off.
• 32:15
  I was talking about the Quran, and I'll talk about the hadith.
• 32:19
  The hadith is a very important uh in Islam, and it's a record of Muhammad's words and deeds.
• 32:25
  In other words, it's stories about Muhammad, whereas the Quran is supposed to be the quote uh word of Allah.
• 32:33
  Um to uh Archangel Gabriel to Mohammed.
• 32:38
  By the way, uh Muhammad was uh illiterate, and that's not a um uh a criticism.
• 32:44
  That's not unusual.
• 32:45
  It obviously it at that uh time and place.
• 32:49
  So he had a scribe.
• 32:51
  So everything in there, you know, this is what the angel told me.
• 32:54
  Write this down.
• 32:55
  There was scribe wrote all this stuff down because he could not uh read and write, but certainly he was no dummy, very intelligent man.
• 33:04
  So the hadith uh is a record of Muhammad's words and deeds.
• 33:08
  Now three percent of uh jihad references is about inner struggle, and this is a favorite of a Muslims.
• 33:15
  No, no, no, you don't understand.
• 33:17
  Jihad is just my inner struggle.
• 33:19
  Well, thank you very much.
• 33:20
  We understand it in my religion.
• 33:22
  We also have inner struggles.
• 33:23
  All religion said we have inner struggles, believing.
• 33:26
  But in a hadith, 3% is about the inner struggle, 97% is about bloodshed and warfare against non-Muslims.
• 33:34
  It's just that simple.
• 33:36
  And believe me, a smart Muslim when they hear you say something like this, they don't want to talk any further because they there's nothing they can say.
• 33:45
  There's a couple of keys to interpreting Muslim communications if you're in a serious conversation with uh with a Muslim about these things, and that's takiyya and abrogation.
• 33:57
  I already covered abrogation, and that is just because there's something about sunshine and lollipops uh in the Quran someplace about how we all get along.
• 34:07
  Uh, you can bet that it's been abrogated, cancelled out by something that was written later.
• 34:14
  So uh takiyyah is kind of a uh it's actually one of the four different ways of lying uh in Islam.
• 34:23
  And people tend to to lump them all together under takiyyah.
• 34:27
  That's T-A-Q I A.
• 34:31
  It's an established Islamic doctrine that approves and encouraging deceit and lying if it furthers the aims of Islam.
• 34:41
  Now, let me give you an example, and I I wish this were a visual thing and not just a radio, because I have a photo here I'm looking at and I'll describe it.
• 34:50
  The first Muslim um member of commerce is a man named Keith Ellison.
• 34:56
  He's still very active in Minnesota right now.
• 35:00
  And there's a nice photo of him, and this is a typical swearing in thing.
• 35:00
  And there's a nice photo of him, and this is a typical swearing-in thing.
• 35:04
  And you know, in Congress, when you see your congressman swearing in on a Bible, that's not the way they swear in.
• 35:04
  And you know, in Congress, when you see your congressman swearing in on a Bible, um, that's not the way they swear in.
• 35:11
  Uh officially, they all stand up together and raise their right hand, and they go through the whole swearing in, and that's that.
• 35:11
  Uh officially, they all stand up together and raise their right hand and they go through the whole swearing in, and that's that.
• 35:18
  The the um with the speaker of the house and the uh Bible and so forth with the family surrounded.
• 35:18
  The um with the speaker of the house and the bot and the uh Bible and so forth with the family surrounded, that's on request.
• 35:25
  That's on request.
• 35:27
  So, anyhow, here's a picture of Nancy Pelosi.
• 35:27
  So, anyhow, here's a picture of Nancy Pelosi holding the Quran.
• 35:33
  Um, and Keith Ellen and Keith Ellison and his wife and family in the background, and he has his left hand on the Quran, and he's swearing in uh not on the Constitution of the United States, but on the Quran.
• 35:46
  Now, back to Takea and lying.
• 35:52
  Uh, guess what Quran he used?
• 35:55
  If you recall, I started this uh with a little history about how Thomas Jefferson went out in London and bought himself a Quran so he could learn how to fight Islam.
• 36:06
  Well, Ellison went to the rare books section of the National Archives and got Thomas Jefferson's Quran, and that's what he swore in on.
• 36:17
  And if that isn't one big in-your-face takeah operation, I don't know what is.
• 36:22
  Uh, when this happened, very, very few people knew about it.
• 36:27
  I was one of them.
• 36:28
  I mean, we've I've developed through the years with my knowledge on this.
• 36:32
  Um, oh, isn't that nice?
• 36:35
  We we're allowed now.
• 36:36
  That's happening now, too.
• 36:37
  You know, the mayor of New York, of course, swore in on a Quran.
• 36:40
  And it's such a joke, because it's the antithesis of the kind of our national constitution or even the state constitution.
• 36:49
  So that's how they go very cleverly in their face, in our faces.
• 36:54
  We don't know it, but I can assure you that many, many Muslims uh are just laughing off their chairs when they're seeing something like this happens.
• 37:04
  I'm going to give you another example of uh takia of lying.
• 37:09
  Um there's a uh a news clipping that uh I have, and I show up, and when I give a visual on this, um if you all recall the what happened in Benghazi in uh what year was that, 2012, when that um embassy in in Libya was uh taken over and the ambassador killed, and there was a big fire fight and so forth.
• 37:32
  Um and what happened in the days after that is, and you'll see this uh a lot, is Muslims uh all around the country would uh go on the news um or uh on TV or do letters to the editor uh defending explaining things like this, and most of them are um sophisticated people.
• 37:57
  In this case, this was a uh this was my Imam where I lived at the time.
• 38:02
  I say my because that's the uh mosque was not too far from my home, unfortunately.
• 38:09
  Uh, and he's Dr.
• 38:10
  Ahmed Nur, and many of these guys are professors at local universities.
• 38:15
  Um that's who uh were sent out to to do these things because they're smart people, uh PhDs, uh, very well spoken.
• 38:24
  And um, so there was an article in the uh in our paper and then in 2012, and um he's explained about Benghazi.
• 38:34
  Oh, that's terrible, that's not us, we're not like this, uh so on and so forth.
• 38:38
  But I'm gonna read you one statement um that's really kind of amazing.
• 38:43
  He says, the Prophet Muhammad, paren, peace be upon him.
• 38:47
  They always have to say that, is loved and respected by millions.
• 38:51
  He is the example for all practicing Muslims in everything they do.
• 38:57
  He was attacked and insulted many times in his life, but he always reacted with compassion and forgiveness.
• 39:05
  That is one giant fat lie, laughable.
• 39:09
  But yet the guy put it in there because he knew that 99% of the population wouldn't believe it.
• 39:17
  And why is that?
• 39:18
  Because, you know, uh Muhammad was a great religious leader, and why would he do something terrible like this?
• 39:24
  So that was a big lie.
• 39:25
  Always reacted with compassion and forgiveness.
• 39:27
  He was a warrior, he was in 245 battles that he started.
• 39:31
  Um but uh so that is an example of Takiya, and it's it was repeated over and over after the Menghazi thing, and it to this day it's it's repeated, usually by some university professor, and uh being taken in by a lot of gullible uh Americans.
• 39:50
  So in uh 2004, some uh Maryland State policemen were crossing the um the uh Chesapeake Bay Bridge that goes from Annapolis to the eastern shore of of Maryland, and they found themselves behind a late model infinity SUV, and they noticed there was a woman uh in the right front seat who apparently had on Muslim garb, uh a uh Nikab or rather a Perka.
• 40:21
  And uh she had a video camera, and this video camera was pointed all towards the structure of the bridge, up and down and around.
• 40:29
  I thought this seems kind of odd.
• 40:31
  So they're calling the license uh number, they're still on the bridge, and they get a call back to say pull that vehicle over immediately, because the owner of that vehicle uh was someone who they've been uh authorities have been looking for for some time, and sure enough, um, when they pulled him over, Ishmael Al Borassi uh came out and uh he was sentenced to jail for refusing to testify in a terrorism financing case, and he was on the quote on the lamb for all this time.
• 41:00
  So they ended up catching him.
• 41:03
  Um they went to his house in Annandale, Virginia, which is right next to Alexandria, which is uh 20 minutes from the White House.
• 41:12
  Um, and they had good reason to uh to to go through his house very carefully.
• 41:18
  They found a secret or obviously secret, a sub-basement underneath the basement of a storage area where the entire archives of the Muslim Brotherhood in the United States was kept.
• 41:31
  He was the archivist for the uh Muslim Brotherhood.
• 41:34
  They weren't looking for that, they didn't realize that that's what he was doing on top of everything else.
• 41:40
  So um this is called the plan.
• 41:43
  They called the explanatory memorandum of the general goal for the Muslim group in North America.
• 41:50
  Uh and we just call it the plan.
• 41:53
  And to summarize it up, they say it is a kind of grand jihad and eliminating and destroying Western civilization from within.
• 42:00
  Destroying Western civilization from within.
• 42:05
  Um, all the signatories are on there, all the organizations uh associated with were in this plan.
• 42:05
  All the signatories are on there, all the organizations associated with or in this plan.
• 42:11
  I mean, it was just a treasure trove.
• 42:11
  I mean, it was just a treasure trove.
• 42:14
  Uh sadly, a treasure trove that was not taken advantage of by our leaders, but now it's coming back around.
• 42:14
  Sadly, a treasure trove that was not taken advantage of by our leaders.
• 42:19
  But now it's coming back around.
• 42:22
  Um friends of mine were on a uh uh or in an organization that analyzed this plan and they came.
• 42:23
  Some friends of mine were on a uh uh or in an organization that analyzed this plan, and they came up with a thing called the Team B report.
• 42:32
  Um that uh goes through the whole plan step by step and um shows the uh all the organizations and the relationships.
• 42:44
  Uh I wish you could see this graphically, is it's really kind of confusing, but um all the luminaries uh their photos and the different organizations that they're in.
• 42:54
  The Muslims are very good about creating um, you know, uh organizations that are difficult to understand and hard to follow, uh, but they're all related to each other, and all these relationships are shown.
• 43:09
  So this uh plan um has um 18 strategic imperatives.
• 43:16
  That's a name that I gave them, and that's from my military background.
• 43:19
  Instead of saying tactics, they really are not tactics, they're strategic imperatives.
• 43:24
  I'm gonna go through them quickly and point out uh a few of them uh that have you know good examples.
• 43:31
  One is expand the Muslim presence uh presence by birth rate and immigration.
• 43:37
  I'll say that again, expand the Muslim presence by birth rate and immigration.
• 43:43
  In 1987, the Muslim population was 1.4 million.
• 43:48
  In 2025, the Muslim population was 4.5 million.
• 43:53
  Um, do I need to explain to anybody?
• 43:57
  Uh this information is 2025.
• 44:00
  That's like old now.
• 44:03
  Um between uh you look at France and England, it's they're already too far gone.
• 44:09
  There's some say that there'll be Muslim countries in the next you know 15 years.
• 44:14
  So they're expanding through immigration, mostly much illegal, but legal too, and birth rate, because there are plenty of Muslims here who have multiple wives, and they're producing many, many children, and they're in it for the long game.
• 44:30
  Um, these children are gonna be voting when they're 18.
• 44:35
  So that's the uh first strategic imperative.
• 44:38
  The second one is refuse to assimilate.
• 44:41
  Um and I have a photo of this of uh the first I saw it in the town I used to live in uh near Hampton Roads, uh full-on Nikab woman coming out of Ace Hardware.
• 44:54
  Uh when I say Nikab, a lot of people think of Burqa is uh the burqa is the is the full-on garb, but you can see the face.
• 45:03
  A Nikab, you see nothing except slits for the eyes.
• 45:07
  And it's one step above that.
• 45:08
  They wear the like a like a mask, like a fencer's mask thing that you mesh, you can't see anything.
• 45:15
  Um, so refusing to assimilate uh that's you know, that's part of it.
• 45:20
  And uh the women you see around town, they'll tell you, oh no, we love dressing this way.
• 45:25
  Um, but uh that's kind of hard to prove.
• 45:29
  Uh the third, occupy and expand domination of physical spaces.
• 45:34
  Um, and if you've heard about uh this um epic city in Texas, look it up.
• 45:43
  Um just Google it.
• 45:45
  It is a giant town that they're building in Texas, all exclusively for uh Muslims.
• 45:53
  Uh they already have started uh part of it.
• 45:57
  I have a picture of it right here.
• 45:59
  Fortunately, the um the conservative uh legislators uh and and governor of Texas are fighting against us because this is how that they implement Sharia law.
• 46:13
  Um, and you get into not so much traffic tickets uh when you talk about law, but um you know, divorce court and inheritances and things like that.
• 46:24
  They want everything to be under Sharia law and their little community, and of course, their goal is the entire United States would be under Sharia law.
• 46:33
  So these things are popping up everywhere.
• 46:35
  There's a um uh more and more towns, small towns, um their town councils and mayors are now all Muslims.
• 46:45
  I mean, this is happening all over the place.
• 46:48
  Occupy and expand domination of physical spaces.
• 46:52
  Um here's a uh number four, and since sure Muslim community knows and follows Muslim Brotherhood doctrine.
• 47:01
  I'll skip over that.
• 47:02
  We know that they do.
• 47:03
  We've had people infiltrate mosques, and uh they're very, very serious about their people understanding you know, all their doctrine.
• 47:11
  Control the language used in describing Islam.
• 47:14
  Um this is a kind of an interesting one.
• 47:17
  In 1993, the FBI bugged a hotel in Philadelphia, uh, where the Council on American uh Islamic relations care and others were meeting and they were having a discussion.
• 47:30
  So they have this on tape that where they came up with the term Islamophobia.
• 47:35
  And uh one of the speakers was saying that um, you know, this homophobia thing is working really well for the homosexuals.
• 47:43
  Uh why don't we start saying Islamophobia?
• 47:46
  Well, how does that work out?
• 47:47
  We're hearing that every day now.
• 47:50
  So that's where they came up with that.
• 47:51
  And sure Muslims, non-Muslims do not study Islamic doctrine.
• 47:56
  Um, I have a lot of examples of how they will they really don't they don't want you to know everything I'm telling you here right now.
• 48:04
  Uh they just uh they do everything they can to hide their own doctrine.
• 48:09
  Co-op uh key leadership.
• 48:12
  Um and I have some pictures to show this, the various scoundrels that are with President Bush, President Clinton, and on down the line.
• 48:20
  I mean, they have infiltrated the White House and the Washington, D.C.
• 48:25
  uh so thoroughly and so professionally uh is scary.
• 48:30
  Um let's see.
• 48:35
  Fight all counterism, uh counter-terrorism efforts, care, which I mentioned before the Council of American Islamic relations are quoted all the time.
• 48:47
  They were the good, they still the go-to people for uh the alphabet networks when they want to know something about Islam.
• 48:53
  They are Hamas.
• 48:55
  Uh they've admitted to being Hamas uh privately.
• 48:59
  Um they had a thing on their uh website that said uh build a wall of resistance, don't talk to the FBI.
• 49:00
  They had a thing on their uh website that said uh build a wall of resistance, don't talk to the FBI.
• 49:06
  After one of my associates found that on their website, of course, it came down.
• 49:06
  After one of my associates found that on their website, of course, it came down.
• 49:11
  Subvert religious organizations.
• 49:11
  Subvert religious organizations.
• 49:14
  Now, I do, if anybody out there listening to this uh knows anything, has heard anything about interfaith dialogue that their church or church or in their neighborhood is doing.
• 49:14
  Now I do, if anybody out there listening to this uh knows anything, has heard anything about interfaith dialogue that their church or church or in their neighborhood is doing, please get in touch with Karen who can get in touch with me.
• 49:23
  Please get in touch with Karen who and get in touch with me.
• 49:26
  I specialize in this.
• 49:26
  I specialize in this.
• 49:28
  Um they'll come in.
• 49:28
  Um they'll come into your church and lie to you without hesitating, knowing full well that your pastor and the people in the audience have no clue of the lies that they're telling.
• 49:40
  And I could give you great examples, but we don't have time.
• 49:44
  Employ lawfare.
• 49:45
  We all will know what lawfare is uh because it's used in the political arena all the time.
• 49:51
  Um, but they employ lawfare and um to um fight uh when we're people they're putting up mosques all over the place.
• 50:01
  Uh love time mosques that really aren't necessary.
• 50:04
  They don't have the population to support the mosque, but they're planning on having it.
• 50:08
  Um they use lawfare to uh get people involved in lawsuits and and just uh like anybody can use lawsuits to to uh uh to make things difficult on others.
• 50:23
  Well, they're very good at that.
• 50:25
  Um claim victimization.
• 50:28
  Uh and they're doing that all the time.
• 50:30
  The I have a picture of Somali Muslim community demands reparations over Ice trauma.
• 50:36
  You've seen that on the news.
• 50:38
  Uh, so they're always the victims.
• 50:40
  Demand accommodations.
• 50:41
  I have a nice photo here of uh thousands of Muslims who took over Times Square.
• 50:48
  Um after Zuran got um elected as the uh mayor of uh New York for a prayer, a prayer that is not normally done outside.
• 50:57
  But they got uh thousands of thousands of people shut down Times Square.
• 51:01
  Um, and they demanded that accommodation, of course, they got it.
• 51:05
  Uh, condemn slander against Islam.
• 51:08
  Um not so much in this country now, but in Europe, in England right now, you're in danger of going to jail if you say the wrong thing about Islam.
• 51:18
  And I have a friend who uh did almost go to jail for that.
• 51:21
  She wrote a book about it because she uh in a privacy own home mentioned um where the meeting didn't know there were Islamists there, and said that that Mohammed was a pedophile because he married a three-year-old, but he didn't consummate till she was nine, so that's not so bad, I guess.
• 51:38
  But uh long story name is Elizabeth Elizabeth's about a chwolf, and she's wrote a written a book about it.
• 51:45
  So in Europe, it's terrible, and it's we're going that direction here.
• 51:49
  Uh 14 subvert the U.S.
• 51:51
  education system, infiltrate and dominate Middle Eastern religious studies program.
• 51:55
  I could go on for an hour on that.
• 51:58
  Um all of our universities have uh large uh Muslim studies programs, and it's all funded and uh supported by people who don't have our best interests in mind.
• 52:11
  Um let's see here.
• 52:15
  On um, well, I have a whole, I mean, I could do an hour on what they've done with education.
• 52:20
  Uh if you went to your local high school and looked at a uh modern world history book, you will see things in there about Islam that are just absolutely untrue.
• 52:31
  Um they're they're indoctrinating our kids.
• 52:36
  Um so let's see.
• 52:38
  Another one is demand recognition of Sharia in non-Muslim spheres.
• 52:43
  That goes back to there's another picture of uh Nancy Pelosi uh swearing in.
• 52:49
  Uh, what's her name?
• 52:50
  Omar, the troublemaker uh gal in Congress swearing in on a Quran.
• 52:57
  That is a real um recognition of Sharia in non-Muslim spheres.
• 53:02
  Um again, antithesis of the constitution, and they're using the Quran to swear in on.
• 53:10
  Uh 17, confront and denounce Western society, laws and traditions.
• 53:15
  I don't expand on that.
• 53:17
  Happens all the time.
• 53:19
  And that pretty much comes to the end.
• 53:22
  Uh, let me give you a tip if you're interested in seeing what's going on day by day.
• 53:26
  There's a site called Jihad Watch.
• 53:29
  You can just look it up on Google or whatever, or DuckDuckGo.
• 53:33
  Um, and you can find it.
• 53:35
  I follow it every day.
• 53:36
  In the Geller report, this is by Pamela Geller.
• 53:40
  Uh they're both very similar, a lot of visuals, a few paragraphs, and they tell you what's going on with Islam around the uh world.
• 53:48
  Thank you so much, Bob.
• 53:50
  This is fantastic information.
• 53:54
  Folks, if any of you have any questions or have any uh would like to get a hold of Bob, would like him to come and speak to your group via Zoom uh any time, any place.
• 54:07
  Please get a hold of me and I will turn over the information to Bob and he will get back to you.
• 54:13
  Am I correct, Bob?
• 54:15
  Is that that's the procedure you want to follow?
• 54:18
  Sure.
• 54:18
  And I'd be happy to, you know, present to anybody uh group, any group, large or small.
• 54:25
  It is so important, folks, that we understand what this quote religious really political group is attempting to do.
• 54:36
  Once you understand that and you listen to them, you can see the lies, you can hear them, and you can recognize them.
• 54:44
  And that's what the most important thing is.
• 54:46
  Fortunately, right now we have some governors who are no longer afraid of being called uh Islamophobia, and they are putting in place laws that say no law will supersede the constitution, and sharia will not be followed.
• 55:07
  But there's a problem with that, folks, and that problem is enforcement, and that depends upon us.
• 55:14
  You can have all the laws on the books that you want, but if they're not enforced, it doesn't matter.
• 55:20
  And unfortunately, uh that is what is happening.
• 55:24
  Uh Bob has a quote that I am going to share with you, and it is from Mark Twain.
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  And he said it is easier to fool the people than to convince them that they are being fooled.
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  So keep that in mind.
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  And the next time your county commissioners uh or city commissioners say, Well, we're gonna put up a mosque at so and so.
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  Remember, remember the population, remember what their goal is, and remember what they are trying to do, no matter how they talk.
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  This is their goal, and they are not gonna forget it.
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  Not going to forget it.
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  Thank you so much, Bob.
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  Thank you so much, Bob.
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  I really appreciate the hard work that you've done in sharing the information with everyone.
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  I really appreciate the hard work that you've done in sharing the information with everyone.
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  This is Karen Schoen.
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  This is Karen Schoen.
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  You have been listening to the Prism of America's Education brought to you on the America Outloud.news network.
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  You have been listening to The Prism of America's Education brought to you on the AmericaOut Loud.news Network.
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  Folks, saving America is up to us.
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  Folks, saving America is up to us if we don't vet our candidates and ask the right questions and vote in the primaries.
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  If we don't vet our candidates and ask the right questions and vote in the primaries, it does not matter.
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  It does not matter.
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  America will be lost.
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  America will be lost.
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  It's up to us to make sure that does not happen.
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  It's up to us to make sure that does not happen.
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  And your home.
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  And your homework for this week is to listen to this podcast again and share the information.
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  Thank you.
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  See you all next week.
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  America.