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Jaguars Thursday: May 10 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Jaguars Thursday. Former Jaguars Jeff Langerman and Tony
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  Speaker 1: BASSELLI bring you expert insight and analysis of your Jacksonville Jaguars.
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  Speaker 1: Now to get things started, here's the host of Jaguars Thursday,
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  Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick. Welcome Jaguars Central. It's Jaguars Thursday. J P. Shadrick,
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Lockerman, Tony VASSELLI. Rookie Minicamp weekend is here. I'm
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  Speaker 1: other sporting event going on in town as well. I'm excited.
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  Speaker 1: I actually tried to, uh try to get a second
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  Speaker 1: signing bonus from Tim Walsh while we were walking down
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  Speaker 1: the hallway. That worked for you, not very well? No, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: I tried. I said, you know, hey, uh what was
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  Speaker 1: the reasoning? I don't know. I mean I don't I
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  Speaker 1: couldn't understand why. I mean, you know, you do so
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  Speaker 1: much for this organization, you know, I mean, I'll be
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  Speaker 1: a rookie again, why not? Right? I felt the physical
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  Speaker 1: yeah right now, No, that's good. It's uh, it's actually
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  Speaker 1: kind of kind of interesting. I mean they all look
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  Speaker 1: so young. I mean, Tony looks like really old now
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  Speaker 1: compared to the room. I don't know if you know
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  Speaker 1: what we are. I don't know you are. It's funny
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  Speaker 1: those seeing those guys. Are you look at Mr slang Graybeard.
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  Speaker 1: What you're talking about that died? Is it really? It's
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  Speaker 1: a new convenience. Salt and pepper is in. So I
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  Speaker 1: had worked it this way outstanding? Yeah, you like it.
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  Speaker 1: It's really good. All the rookies came into town today
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  Speaker 1: and they'll be on the field tomorrow and Saturday. And
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  Speaker 1: it's funny seeing the guys go around and make the
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  Speaker 1: rounds today, walk in being led into the lunch room
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  Speaker 1: upstairs by one of the scouting assistance over there, getting
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  Speaker 1: the grand tour of the place. Here's the lunch room,
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  Speaker 1: here's the meeting rooms. They're they're getting a feel for
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  Speaker 1: what's in the facility. They don't have a clue, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And that meeting tonight, that's probably the biggest thing, you know,
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  Speaker 1: when you come in and I, Tony, you didn't have
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  Speaker 1: a rookie minicamp, did you know? I wish we would have.
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  Speaker 1: It was better because it was all we came in
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  Speaker 1: and we were thrown in with all the veterans. But
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  Speaker 1: that's what I mean, it's probably better. Well, the only
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  Speaker 1: thing was better about it is you could follow, you followed.
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  Speaker 1: There's nobody to follow in rookie minicamp for the most part,
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  Speaker 1: although there are a couple of guys that are participating
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  Speaker 1: that are participating the rookie yeah, that have been here,
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  Speaker 1: but I mean there's like what four or five of them.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's better to have, you know, regular minicamp
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  Speaker 1: where you've got you know, veteran guys to follow. He said, Oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the offensive lineman. I'm an offensive lineman. I'm gonna follow
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  Speaker 1: the celly, you know. For the defensive lineman, you follow
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  Speaker 1: Clais Campbell, you know. I mean it's the only the
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  Speaker 1: only positive I think though that I didn't know any better,
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  Speaker 1: is if you come in that first time, you can
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  Speaker 1: kind of get acclimated a little bit as a rookie
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  Speaker 1: without the pressure of the veterans and all being around
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  Speaker 1: and trying to figure out that whole dynamic. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: maybe it doesn't matter, but I mean maybe that's what's
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  Speaker 1: wrong with that, that dynamic doesn't is not there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, listen, what dynamic needs to be there? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was. It was definitely a different field because when uh,
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  Speaker 1: you got here and everybody all the veterans are here.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you're running around and you're trying to keep up.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, so the pace I mean, I mean we
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  Speaker 1: got thrown in. If you remember Jeff, there was no
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  Speaker 1: I mean after now, thankfully I was in shape. I
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  Speaker 1: stayed in shape. But if you didn't at first met camp,
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  Speaker 1: who was full speed. I mean you were going. I
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  Speaker 1: mean there was no like, hey, let's teach you the drills,
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  Speaker 1: was like get in line and we go. Well, because
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  Speaker 1: you know, when Tony got drafted, which with the draft
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  Speaker 1: was April, right third week of April, third week of April,
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  Speaker 1: and we had already been working out for when I
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  Speaker 1: came here. I came here on my visit March tenth, eleventh,
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  Speaker 1: like that, all the veterans here were working out. We're here,
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  Speaker 1: we were getting after it. Well, I don't think I
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  Speaker 1: was here yet. I was in Hawaii. We're doing something
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  Speaker 1: else after that. But I mean I walked in and
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  Speaker 1: they were all here on my visit. Um, so it's
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  Speaker 1: definitely a different atmosphere. But at first day, I mean
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  Speaker 1: that first minicamp, I mean I was in shape and
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  Speaker 1: just the you know, I don't want to say anxiety,
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  Speaker 1: but just something new and you're trying to keep up
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  Speaker 1: and you want to put your best foot forward, and
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  Speaker 1: you sit in a meeting and they're just they don't
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  Speaker 1: like start over and say hey, just like here's the playbook,
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  Speaker 1: figure it out. And it sent us sent me one
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  Speaker 1: right after the draft saying they make sure you have
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  Speaker 1: some understanding because we're gonna hit the ground running. And
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  Speaker 1: but it was and so that was one to yea
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  Speaker 1: to see how do you respond because they want to see,
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  Speaker 1: you know, when for example, I mean Tom Coughlin love
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  Speaker 1: challenging people to see how they would respond to something
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  Speaker 1: that was perceived as negatively. And so Tony comes in,
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  Speaker 1: you know, here's the playbook, figure it out. They want
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  Speaker 1: to see how he responded. You know. They wanted to
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  Speaker 1: see how a player would respond in pressure situation, when
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  Speaker 1: and when he was out of his comfort zone. And
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  Speaker 1: that was all part of the design because uh, there
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  Speaker 1: was no reason to to slow things down other than
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  Speaker 1: to let to TC two young guys. But they don't
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  Speaker 1: want to do that roll. But the dynamic dynamics new
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  Speaker 1: is the rookie change. Because I remember after we got
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  Speaker 1: done with all the veteran stuff, over that six week
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  Speaker 1: period of how long it was. The veterans got off
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  Speaker 1: earlier than we did, and we had to stay for
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  Speaker 1: another two weeks. Just rookies and the dynamic change because
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  Speaker 1: now it's all of this is rookies of me. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: so now you're the you know, you're kind of running
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  Speaker 1: the show a little bit. You've been there, so but
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  Speaker 1: when you're you show open the veterans. I actually agree
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  Speaker 1: with Jeff talking it through, you know, going through it now.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad that we came in with the veterans because
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  Speaker 1: it does help you kind of find your way. And
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  Speaker 1: and also like this is who you're competing with, to
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  Speaker 1: let you know how hard it is. This rookie minicamp
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  Speaker 1: is not real. It's like over half the guys are
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  Speaker 1: street but they don't work out that and that's caused
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  Speaker 1: for concern from a couple evenus. One is that one
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  Speaker 1: is you get a guy that can get hurt and
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  Speaker 1: then you know you're gonna be responsible to pay him
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  Speaker 1: until he's healthy or whatever injury settlement. And then the
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  Speaker 1: other thing is that you have you know, first round
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  Speaker 1: draft pick and in high draft picks you know from
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  Speaker 1: the draft class that are on the field and mix
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  Speaker 1: it in with guys. That's why they don't do the
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  Speaker 1: team very much anymore. That really they're they're not gonna
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  Speaker 1: make a team. I mean they're they're a camp body.
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  Speaker 1: And I hate to say that. So do you want,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a guy that has no chance of making
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  Speaker 1: your team, that is here for one purpose, and that
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  Speaker 1: for the most part, is to be a body in camp,
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  Speaker 1: you know, putting one of your high draft Jeff, it's
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  Speaker 1: a body for the rookie mini camp. I mean, most
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  Speaker 1: of these guys signed three day in contracts and here's
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  Speaker 1: a plane ticket of ham Sandwich and here's your waiver
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  Speaker 1: to sign to come work out with well and some
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  Speaker 1: of them, you know, I mean, we're looking at the list,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm talking about the actual So this is the
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  Speaker 1: undrafted free agent. But then there's thirty eight three day
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  Speaker 1: guys that you know, I mean, you have no idea,
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  Speaker 1: but the undrafted free just said, listen, we're seeing now.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, these guys have they can compete. They they
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  Speaker 1: got a chance to compete and maybe to earn whether
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  Speaker 1: it be a roster spot on you know, active roster
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  Speaker 1: or practice squad or whatever. But then the tryout guys, etcetera.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's a that's a whole different world, whole
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  Speaker 1: different world. And the other thing that I'm always curious
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  Speaker 1: about is you have you know, a lot of guys
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  Speaker 1: coming from a lot of different places. I haven't seen
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  Speaker 1: the weather today. If you got seen the weather across
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  Speaker 1: the country. I mean, are there any guys that are
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  Speaker 1: delayed that didn't make it, you know because the weather.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think there's any issues there. So if somebody's
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  Speaker 1: not hearing what whatever individual is to be hot tomorrow tomorrow,
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  Speaker 1: that's an eye opener. Yeah about that. I guess part
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  Speaker 1: of this too is you get your draft picks on
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  Speaker 1: the field for the first time. Yes, it's not in pads,
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  Speaker 1: but you get an idea of forget pads and I
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  Speaker 1: have to run around team stuff. That's just basically they
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  Speaker 1: teach them the drills, go through individual you know, get
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  Speaker 1: a moving see what you can see, teach them basic technique. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and it's not really alert. It's not really like a
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  Speaker 1: calm slow learning and the fascinvalting environment. But still teaching
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  Speaker 1: the drills. There's a lot of yelling, you know with
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  Speaker 1: book basically exactly they want to see how they respond
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  Speaker 1: and how quickly it's not it could give me a break.
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  Speaker 1: It's a one practice. They're trying to stress him though.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah you're trying to, but you can't. With the cb A,
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  Speaker 1: you only put some much stress on the guy. Nowadays
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  Speaker 1: physically you're only mentally you can but the only so
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  Speaker 1: much physical stress you put on a guy. Yeah that
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  Speaker 1: you know. All that changed a bit a few years
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  Speaker 1: ago and Dante Fowler went down to that rookie camp
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  Speaker 1: in the eleven on eleven work and then uh they
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  Speaker 1: changed the next couple of years. They really toned it
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  Speaker 1: back a lot during that rookie when they camp. That
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  Speaker 1: was at least for this one. How was it last
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  Speaker 1: year with Doug? First year? We don't know. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: We weren't out there. Does anyone have any clue? I
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  Speaker 1: can't remember what the reports were. There weren't any because
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  Speaker 1: nobody was out it was it wasn't open, So we don't.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know. What do you think we can go watch?
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  Speaker 1: If we asked? Your name's on the wall, Tony, I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure you could go take a gander. If probably not.
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  Speaker 1: Should we test it? I'm not gonna test. Are you
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  Speaker 1: gonna come down here this weekend? Okay, yeah, all right,
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  Speaker 1: do you want to test it? No? Yeerious? Are you
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  Speaker 1: even bringing it up? Well? Because like this the you
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  Speaker 1: know the pain of the ass. I am okay, you
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  Speaker 1: kind of want to that's the portion that wants to
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  Speaker 1: stir it up a little bit. Huh. Yeah, I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: you could do it, Tony if you if you come on,
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  Speaker 1: it's impossible. That's not you. That's not you at all. No,
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, I'm glad. I actually I think
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  Speaker 1: those things should be closed, especially those first rookie man
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean all joking side. I I if
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  Speaker 1: I was a coach, i'd i'd probably i'd close that
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  Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Remember the first Blake Bortles here, they
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  Speaker 1: had it open there. I don't like that lying out
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  Speaker 1: the door. I mean, I guess, but I would I
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  Speaker 1: would keep that portion closed because training camper we open,
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  Speaker 1: and it should be and you know, maybe have a
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  Speaker 1: couple of t A s opened up. Let people come
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  Speaker 1: out and you know, get excited. But you know who
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  Speaker 1: may be more excited that rookie manicamp is closed, more
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  Speaker 1: excited than me and you and j P. All the
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  Speaker 1: local media, especially the ones that are TV that they've
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  Speaker 1: got the players going on. They don't because they try
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  Speaker 1: trying to do double dude. The course they're they're very happy. Well,
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  Speaker 1: the happiest person that's closes Tom Coughlin, because he likes
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  Speaker 1: all of it closed, absolutely and he can close it.
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  Speaker 1: Came the rules. Oh gosh, yes, here's very right to
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  Speaker 1: there's no reason to open it. You know, it's a
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  Speaker 1: good thing. Now. After this rookie minicamp, the phase three,
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  Speaker 1: the O T A S start up in a couple
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  Speaker 1: of weeks. Did we have phases, Tony? I remember, I
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  Speaker 1: don't remember either. It's all one big phase, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean? And I mean I know that like
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  Speaker 1: you in the in the regular season, you break it
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  Speaker 1: up in the quarters. You know, the first quarters is
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  Speaker 1: four games, second quarters the next four games. Good at math,
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  Speaker 1: thank you? Okay, So, but I never understood of why
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  Speaker 1: you have different phases of the off season. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: all of the off season has is one goal, so
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  Speaker 1: it's not like you're having different phases for different goals.
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  Speaker 1: I mean your goal is to always to get better.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't quite understand the naming of phases in
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  Speaker 1: the off season. Well, phase one is strength and conditioning,
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  Speaker 1: only no on field work. Phase two you can be
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  Speaker 1: on the field, but no team. Yeah, break it down
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  Speaker 1: Phase two, Yeah, as you always do UM nine on
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  Speaker 1: seven teamwork eleven and eleven seven on seven not allowed
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  Speaker 1: in phase two only individual drills. And then in phase
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  Speaker 1: three when the O t A start, you can actually
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  Speaker 1: do some eleven on eleven, nine on seven, seven seven
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  Speaker 1: just one. Instead of having in college no contact, how
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  Speaker 1: do you do not on seven with no context, tell
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  Speaker 1: any of the rules. I mean, that's ridiculous. We know
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  Speaker 1: that if you go out tell any of the rules
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  Speaker 1: no contact, that's contact. So if it's no contact, I
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  Speaker 1: can't do that. There's content the no continent. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think they can't take people to the grounds. Okay, that's different. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that that's what the rule says, no contact,
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  Speaker 1: But well I would I like to breakdown of that
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  Speaker 1: rule what that means JP. I'll get right on that, JP.
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  Speaker 1: My whole thing is is that why do you have
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  Speaker 1: like a phase when you just say okay, well O
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  Speaker 1: TS started. Why do you have to have that as
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  Speaker 1: a phase, just say it's OTS started or inns. Because
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  Speaker 1: like the JPS products, the league has rules of what
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  Speaker 1: can happened when because they was collectively bargained that way,
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  Speaker 1: but the players and so I would like to understand.
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  Speaker 1: I would like to understand that really what no contact means,
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  Speaker 1: because I've watched ours and other o T s and
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  Speaker 1: there is contact that might not be to the ground
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  Speaker 1: and it's maybe controlled contact, but there's contact. Football. Mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how you practiced in eleven eleven without
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  Speaker 1: but you're not gonna have like true contact without passing
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  Speaker 1: like we used to without pass. Yes, it was full
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  Speaker 1: speed without pats. Wow, pretty spirited, would you I mean,
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  Speaker 1: would you disagree it was pretty spirited? It was spirited. No,
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  Speaker 1: I mean you were going you better go full I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it was the only thing that didn't happen. Put it.
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  Speaker 1: Put it this way, JP, me and Tony had o
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  Speaker 1: T a off season practice that had more contact then
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  Speaker 1: some of our in season full padded practices about some
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  Speaker 1: of our training camp. Yes, like we would have one ones, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we would have inside we're nine and seven, we have blitz,
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  Speaker 1: we'd have team. I mean, it was full speed. The
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  Speaker 1: only thing that you did not do in that drill
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  Speaker 1: is you would not take a guy to the ground. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: you try to you know, uh you now, and the
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  Speaker 1: better you, the better you got, and the better athlete
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  Speaker 1: you were. You could full speed without going to the ground. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: one of the things back then you want to know
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  Speaker 1: how you got cut from a team is if you
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  Speaker 1: couldn't play on your feet full speedling quick. And then
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  Speaker 1: the next thing is is in pass rush. Whether it
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  Speaker 1: was team blitz or one on one, there was just
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  Speaker 1: no bull rush. You wouldn't finish the boards, but you
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  Speaker 1: were going to full speed with every other moved. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the way it was all right? Here the official rules
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  Speaker 1: you by the nfl p A website for Phase three
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  Speaker 1: six hours a day, four weeks total. Three weeks. Start
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  Speaker 1: with phase three? What what phase are they in? Now?
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  Speaker 1: Phase two? During phase two? What's phase two? And here
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  Speaker 1: what phase two? Is? What I just said right the
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  Speaker 1: ninety minutes back in the field, Uma, I was, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Phase two and phase phase two three weeks.
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  Speaker 1: Same rules as Phase one apply. That's why I was
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  Speaker 1: reading Phase one. So, uh, ninety minutes max in the field,
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  Speaker 1: two hours for players to be at the facility. Players
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  Speaker 1: choose the other two hours for weights and there's strength
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  Speaker 1: conditioning coaches allowed on the field in Phase one face
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  Speaker 1: so basic Phase one and two is you can be
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  Speaker 1: at the no you can be at the facility for
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  Speaker 1: four out right and coaches are allowed on the field.
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  Speaker 1: And Phase two and you can do some individual and
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  Speaker 1: drills and such. No offense versus defense, no one on ones,
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  Speaker 1: no helmets. Phase three four weeks. Three of those weeks
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  Speaker 1: or ten O t A s a maximum three O
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  Speaker 1: t a s each week for the first two weeks.
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  Speaker 1: They're all scheduled out of course, one week for the
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  Speaker 1: mini camps. Included in that the mandatory mini camp no
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  Speaker 1: pads except protective nie and elbow pads. Helmets are permitted.
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  Speaker 1: No live contact and seven on seven, nine on seven,
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  Speaker 1: and eleven on eleven drills will be permitted provided no
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  Speaker 1: live contact takes place. And does it define does it
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  Speaker 1: define live contact? That's the NFL and that and so
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  Speaker 1: just to clarify for everyone listening, when you said no contact,
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  Speaker 1: that's not accurate, no live contact. What's the difference. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I think live contact is full speed taking people to
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  Speaker 1: the ground. And that's why in the past, if you
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  Speaker 1: ever been out there for those O t as, you
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  Speaker 1: could hear there was always one coach and it used
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  Speaker 1: to be rudy, to be yelling stap stamp stamp, and
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  Speaker 1: I think they purposely just yelled staff staff stamp because
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  Speaker 1: everything's being filmed, and so if the NFL ever reviews
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  Speaker 1: the tape things there see he's trying to tell them
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  Speaker 1: to get try, not saying we're not saying full speed.
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  Speaker 1: We're saying control and everything else. That's the game. That's right.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely got you got my apologies. No live content. Does
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: that make you feel better? Better? It's more accurate. I mean,
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: we're trying to do it an accurate. I get that
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: we're trying to give information to our miss listeners, and
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: you were not doing a good job then, so I
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: wanted to I misspoke. I clarified, and we can move on.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: We're gonna come back to yes we must, and we're
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: gonna pick the first Jags draft pick from this year
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: to start a football game, not the putter. Are you
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: saying he's not a football player. We're not gonna go
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: there right now. We'll come back. Make sure I want
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: to hear that answer. What is the guy's name with
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: the logan cook? And he's the first draft pick to sign,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: By the way, I'm gonna talk to Mr Cook and say, listen, JP,
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: who hosts our shows, doesn't think you're a football play well,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: he's probably listening right now. No, he's in a meeting
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: right now. He's not. We'll come back. We'll get into
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: that plenty to discuss around the league a little bit
• 17:20
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• 17:32
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• 17:44
  Speaker 1: it fast enough. I'm inside it, ready to get here.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: I talked to Lennard yesterday. I taught to their coaches.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: You know, I just the flight took too long. Man,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: I can't wait. Oh yeah, I'm ready to practice. Uh.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: I know if you're the guys, you know, I know
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Logan and him played it him off a game together,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: so I know I'm probably have to cancer to your
• 18:03
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• 18:06
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• 18:10
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  Speaker 1: j P Shadrick, Jeff Lockerman, Tony Vasselli, d J Chark's
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: second round pick. Here a roommate as a freshman with
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Leonard for Net in Baton Rouge. So that brings up
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: the question we were gonna get to before the break here.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: We teased it and now let's go there. He wore
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: number seven, like wind for net Is that like something
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: special else? So it's the best player, it's a tradition,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: it was. Yeah, So there's a few guys. So it
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: started with number eighteen actually in the early two thousand's
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: when Matt Mok won the SEC championship and that was
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: the special number that you know, if you were a
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: great team kind of player, you were offered number eighteen
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: after that because Mark him up and came out of
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: the backup role and and won the game for them,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Uh like Hester the running back or that. There was
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: a few guys. Well he was offered eighteen, but instead
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: of eighteen is last year he wanted to wear number seven?
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Who art because Patrick Peterson Honey Badger Leonard for Nett.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Why did those guys all wear number seven? Did I
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: think one of them just first it was the first
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: guy to wear Peterson because everyone wants a single digit
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: number in college football nowadays, and Patrick Peterson the first one. Okay,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: so those guys. So those guys when they wore it,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: they weren't wearing it because it was a traditional, popular
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: and the history, I mean, the kind of tradition that
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: started with Matt Mock was eighteen. I still think it
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: is like that gets eighteen every year. But so there
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: now another new traditional number. Seven. No, it's just a
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: popular number because there's good players wearing it and everyone
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: in college football wants a single digit number. I got you.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: So that's the that's the ideas. I didn't know that. Yeah,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: so I think I think always pay attention to Yeah,
• 19:57
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• 20:00
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• 20:04
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• 20:07
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• 20:24
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• 20:27
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• 20:30
  Speaker 1: you a bowler? Can bowl? Left? Okay? The question we
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: had before the break, which Jaguars draft pick outside of
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: the punter? Yes? Punters are people too, but you don't
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: think we counter football players. They are specialists. Um So,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: which of the other draft picks will start a game
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: first for the Jacks? What do you think? Guys? I
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: got two in mind. I got one that we just
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: heard from that could be in mind. Let's let's review
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: the draft picks you a real quick. Okay, you got
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: got defensive tackle Taban Brian Chart possible okay. Third round
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: pick uh, safety Harrison Ronie Harrison. Fourth round Richardson the
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: offensive lineman uh from he just state and just breaking news,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: breaking news? Okay, thank you Joe him. I called Joe,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: great job. Round didn't have one? I know it was
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: a big question. Sixth round Tannerlee quarterback signed, just signed. Okay,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Now we go to two picks in the seventh round.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Le Jacobs, linebacker Wisconsin. Does he start sign? We just signed?
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: He just signed to all these guys in here. Okay, Uh,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Logan Cook, the punters, the seventh round pick. Okay, So
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: out of those draft picks, JP, you're asking, who do
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: we think is gonna be the first to start a game?
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: I've narrowed it down to three. For me, we're not
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: asking for Threeking for one thought processes. Pull that list
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: back up, Max. It helps me look at I will
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: go Ronnie Harrison, Will Richardson or Leon Jacobs. Those are
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: my three. That the reason for Ronnie Harrison, and I
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: hope it doesn't happen. But you know, Barry Church is older,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: you got the age there, you know, get Nick Ding
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: or something like that. I don't think he wins the job,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: but that's why I give it. He's He's the third
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: of my choices there. Um. Leon Jacob is because we
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: don't have a strong side linebacker right now. And could
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: he come in and uh beat out Blair Brown or
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: someone else in that position. I think there's a good
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: chance there's not. I mean, you know, fair fair chance
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: of that he's uh and then uh, he's gonna One
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: thing is for certain. If he's a starter, people are
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: gonna go, oh my god, Yeah, he looks good. Pull
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: put the list back up there. Look look at his body.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: I mean he's just a physically yeah is and then uh,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: I think my leading candidate. It's either so I really
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: I come down to Leon Jacobs. I think Will Richardson.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: I think Will Richardson is gonna be giving a legitimate
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: shot to compete for both the right guard in right
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: tackle position. I'm gonna go with the first round pick
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Tavin Ryan. I think, you know, because this defense last
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: year was very start No, well, I don't. I don't
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: think he's gonna be a regular start, like a spot starter,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: but I think he'll get a spot start, you know,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: for injury with because of injury at some point. I
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: think that's that's where d J. Chark can come into it.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: But if they run a three wide, if there's some
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: injury situations, I don't think any of these guys like
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: starting because they've earned a job. As the question, can
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: they even win a starting to know Richardson, you think so?
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: I think Jacobs and Richardson could who else is Okay,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: let's just go to Jacobson. Where who's your third linebacker?
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: If it's I think I think he could have a
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: realistic shot at it. Brown is the strong side linebacker.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Like I said, I think he could have a shot
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: at it. But Richardson coming in here is an offensive lineman.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think it's I think now
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: in the next couple of years, I mean next year,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: I think he would probably be a starter. You know,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: I think he's got that kind of talent. But this
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: year I don't see it happening. I mean, I will say,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: I think if Leon Jacob is the best chance of
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: winning a job, and then because of possible injuries, I
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: would uh, I would say it's either Harrison or Richardson. Uh.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's Shark because I think he'll end
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: up being the forward, probably the fourth receiver to start
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: the season. You hope that none of them start, And
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: that's exactly right. And I think I think, uh, Tavion
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Bryant is also going to be He would be your
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: fourth option. Just name what was his name to it again?
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Tav no ken go ahead, says the way it's spelled
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: his table. No, No, it's not t A V O
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: N R. English. I thought I saw his Oh there
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: you need to get your eyes didn't have enough keeps
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: taking it up and down off the screen. It's the
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: whole Thing's the whole thing. Taven Brian. Do I want
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: to learn his name? That's the first time. Don't worry
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: about a Tony Blo. That's right, hey, last name spell
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: would be in the old country, from back in the
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: old days. We'll come back more around the corner. We'll
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: look around the NFL. By the way, there were some
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: news that came out from somewhere. Man. It had to
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: do with the Eagles, and Uh, I was gonna ask
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: you about it. Really narrowing it down. That's great. Let's
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: think about it over the break. That's a good tea.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: But by the way, we have some news about the
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Jaguars quarterback and his automobile. Last night public this afternoon,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: you have this public. It's out there. We'll come back
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: in just a moment. It's Jaguars Thursday, Jars Radio. What's
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: out there. I don't know. There's a lot of energy
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: in the locker room. Uh, there's a lot of team
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: leaders and there's a lot of hard we're going on.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: So I mean, you're watching those guys last year, you
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: can tell that they were focused and they had a
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: goal and now just coming out here with these guys
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: now you can you can still see that they're eager,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: they're angry. Um, they got a lot to prove. They
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: still feel like people down them. So there's a lot
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: of hardware going on. There's a lot of young guys
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: in the room just that's pushing the older guys to
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: be better. That's Dante Moncrieff. I think he has a
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: big year for the Jags. On Jaguars dot Com Live
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: yesterday the archive available, you've got a lot of ability.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: I think he has a big year this year. I
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: really do stay healthy. Well, I mean that's what I mean.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: You can say a lot about everybody when you go
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: back to the last time he played with the quarterback
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Andrew Lucky a nice years the number two receiver and
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: let me get some before you go to the to
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: the to the l S thing. The one thing I
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: always remember about Dante Moncrief was just fast, big and fast.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: I mean like supposedly the numbers that he had with well,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: it was it was the forty time, the strength, the
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: size that there has not been many guys in the
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: NFL's history that had some of the measurables that he
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: had all combined together exactly total package. Good. Alright, go
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: to the lure seven and eighteen and what do they mean?
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: And all this for your research to anything? So this
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: comes from Hoop Spike. Yeah, my buddy passed the Spike
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Hogan L s U. Guy, good guy, Um, anybody anybody's
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: name is Spikes man? Well, I mean, I don't think
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: he really cares and he's a big hoss you fan. Uh.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: He says that seven at l s U is given
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: by the coaches to the best playmaker this year. It
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: will be given to Jonathan Giles. Uh, who's a transfer
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: wide receiver from Texas Tech. I guess he's the best
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: playmaker on their team this year. Eight is the player
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: who is given by the coaches to the player who
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: best represents character and leadership on the team. There you go,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: So we're right around it, not so that you haven't.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: So how about this news that came out this afternoon
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: regarding the Jaguars quarterback Blake Bortles. Many of the news
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: atlas had it this afternoon, but apparently last night, Blake's
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: truck is parked outside of a house on the Inner
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: coastal over at Jack's Beach, and it's surrounded by cars.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: There's a gathering at the house, and you know people
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: are in the house. Well, somebody, apparently an eighteen year
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: old kid, tried to walk down the street and and
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: saw the truck was unlocked. I saw the keys in
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: the truck, saw the wallt in the truck, tried to
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: steal the truck. Well, there were two did you take
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: the wall? They took some stuff out of the wall.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: They found the wall in the ground. They couldn't get
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: the truck out because there's too many cars around the
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: truck and obviously not a monster. Then decided, Then he
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: decided he couldn't get out, so he's gonna go on
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: the party and kind of blend in and all this. Well,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: they stopped him at the party, called the police, And
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: did they get that stuff mortals truck? Did they get
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: the stuff out of the wall that they think? So, yeah,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: they had. The kid didn't get away. But that kid's dumb,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: so dumb for multid his truck stole it. He's an idiot,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: the eighteen year old for multi reasons. One, you should
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: never steal. It's wrong to steal to stuff. People too.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: If you're gonna be that big of an idiot to
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: do that. Don't go walk into the party of the
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: people you just stole stuff from, like leaves. You're an idiot.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: That's classic. I mean, just dumb. Let me go and
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: check it out. Hey, apparently lessen to blake. I wouldn't
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: leave your wall with the seat, with your keys in
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: your truck. The keys in the truck, I'm okay with
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: if it's blocked in where they gonna do kick it out.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: But the cash or the wall, whatever was in there,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: why would you leave the keys? And I because you've
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: got a house key where he lives. Figure it out.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: We look at the driver's reservation truck. Well that's fair enough.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Only keys in your vehicle period, I do every night.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: You're a knucklehead. No, but I have the automatic walker.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: You have like a gated neighborhood. You're it's NonStop armed
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: rot wiler dogs, shooting towers and arm guards, fully automatic rifles,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: watching the perimeter all times in for red. I have
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: none of that. No, but I have. I can lock
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: the car, you know the little buttons you can push
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: a combination deal. Oh, you've got fancy truck. Yeah it's nice, ye, So,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: but I had my car stolen out of my driveway
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: about five years ago. Really yeah, yep, so left the
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: keys and the No, let me tell the whole story.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: I am anal about locking my car every night. My
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: wife is hut and I can't put it on her
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: because it was my car. But it could not have
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: been me, because I'm literally an'tal. Could have been Tony,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: but j couldn't have been. But I took the blame.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: I did take the blame for it. But wait a minute,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: you just pinned it on your wife, I said, I said,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: I always. I struggled with it. That was the worst
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: mea culp I've ever seen. She's not listening. Um, no,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: I know she's not. I know right where she is
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: right now, I think. Um. Anyways, Uh car got stolen
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: out of my driveway. Came out next morning, My car
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: was gone. I actually went to my wife and did
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: you park my car somewhere else? Did the boys borrow
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: it or whatever? And it was gone? And I found it,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Uh three days later on the north side. Key's in it,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: license plate's gone. Uh. The cops world have said one
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: more if we went one more day, and it was
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: probably on a boat going somewhere. You know that Jacksonville
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Schriff had one vehicle stolen every New York City to
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: the keys in it. No, no, the Crez story. This
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: is the eighties, this is the way back. This is
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: early nineties, and this this pretty wild story. You know
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: when when we played in New York, you know, our
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: training facility and where we lived at was on Long Island. Well,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: the stadium was at that time was the Meadowlands Giant Stadium,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: which was it's in that same place. You had to
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: go through Manhattan and go to the game. So we
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: stayed at the game and selling the way back because
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: the traffic was always bad, we always would stop in
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: the city and have dinner or whatever and then go
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: back home. So we all decided, you know when I
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: say we all, uh guys on the team, we all
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: decided to meet at a bar restaurant to have dinner
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: together and then after that we would all go home
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: just dinner. Uh yeah, just to dinner, just dinner. And
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: pulled in to a spot that was legal park there,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: and and other guys were parked there. And so like
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: I think I was behind Kyle Clift, Kyle Clifton suburban.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: He was a linebacker on her team, driving like a corbette.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: It was like, uh, I know what a corpett it was.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: It was like a h something like that with something y.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: It was flapping definitely. So go in, eat dinner. And
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: I didn't stay long. I'll just grabbing, grabbing and going
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: and left. Literally came out and here's the thing. It was.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: I was parked behind Kyle Clifton suburban right, and I
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: think it was Marvin Washington came in like fifteen minutes
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: after I did. He was parked where I was, behind
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Kyle clifts and suburban. So somebody saw me pull in
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: hot wired that thing within fifteen minutes and stole it.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: And then Marvin Washington comes in goes, oh, parks, by
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: what luck you ever getting back? Playbook? No? No, no, no,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: playbook cars gone. I never saw it again, never heard
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: about it. Nothing. M hmm, what do you do? I
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: bet you left the keys that it's not probably probably probably.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: So that's why the jacksonvill Sheriff's Office is promotes the
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: nine pm routine every night, make sure the doors are
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: locked in your car every just can't do it every
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: night ever since that. I mean, I don't have doors
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: in the car, but I do. I do it every night.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Make sure my cards are locked and something else has
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: locked him. Ready. Yeah, hey, we'll come back in a moment.
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• 35:03
  Speaker 1: gonna get your Miles Jack wasn't down shirt out? You know,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: I didn't really want to. I mean, it's kind of
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: a negative thing. But if the people wanted, if you
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  Speaker 1: guys to get like a poll going, this is love, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this is live. Okay, so ye want it. Let's get
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  Speaker 1: a post started or something and I could figure something out.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: We could definitely definitely get that going. But I appreciate
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: the support. I didn't think I was down either. There's
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Miles Jack yesterday on Jaguars dot Com. I'm surprise appearance
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: walking to the hall. Poked his head in here and
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: jumped on set with us. That was John Ozan with
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: a question about the Miles Jack wasn't down shirts that
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: are out there, and he confirmed that he was not down.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: You know he was not I know he was not down.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Coming up at Daily's Place tonight, Post Malone and twenty
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: one Savage just hours away. A sold out show tonight,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Steely Damn and the Dube Brothers, Sunday and Odeza Wednesday,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: May sixteen. I'm in the Post Malone tonight. Are you
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: really are? You're sitting on the fancy couch down close.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: I've heard what do you think I think you are?
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: I've heard, I've heard that's a pretty happening thing. Yeah. No,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: it's packed tonight, sold out and if you're watching on
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Jaguars dot com, you we have a live look inside
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Daily's Place, the crowd starting to make their way into
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: the pit down below Pact House. What kind of music
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: they play? This is? Post is like hip hop, hip hop,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: and then you know Steely Dan and the Dubie Brothers.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: And then when is when it's Sunday. If you listen
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: to the read a moment ago, you would have known
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: that Sunday to you very much. And then Odesa is
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: electronic music. Yeah, I'm not gonna go that. Like like
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: electronic dance. Yeah, like bring the glow sticks and every
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: start dancing and stuff there like I don't know, I'm yeah,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: I don't never heard Odesa. It's the first electronics show
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: at Daily. I'll try. I mean, you're gonna go no,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: no, no no, no, I'm gonna I'm gonna go home tonight
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: and then hit Yeah, should listen to it on Spotify.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's a lie. You will, No, you atually's gonna
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: get to the back porch, put on the grip sack
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: and no, I'm just telling you. There was there's another
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: band that I guess O d E s z A.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Is that accurate? So that's like Odessa but with a Z.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: I got used the Z now, but the the other
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: band I did that with uh the producer of the
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Outdoor Show to say, hey, man, check out this Greta
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Van something or other anchor. No, no, it was like no,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: NBC one of the Welcome to Rockville and Joe you
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: you probably can pull them this last that was Draft Weekend. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: It was some one of the bands from Welcome to
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Rockfield and I was like reading off and I was like,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: wait a minute, who are they? And he said they
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: this is Odeza apparently Joe Fortunato digging deep tonight that's
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: coming up there. No lyrics, no, no singing. I like them. Yeah,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: it's not like massive attack. This is what you need
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: on the fishing boat boxes. You can do Joe bobbing
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: his head and getting down. Okay, so that's that's what's
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: kind of going. Can you play baseball that daily's place? Yeah? Sure, Hey,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: it's time for us. Sure you can't Joe to go
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: around the National football like slash. Let's start off around
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: the NFL. Matt Patricia indicton, but not try it in
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: the spring break? Sexually? Can we get through the end
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: of the story. It's news had the story. The Lions
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: said the indictment eluded them during a background check that
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: search for only Chris an Old convictions. The charges were
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: dismissed after the alleged victim would not testify at trial.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Back in the late nineties, Patricia today maintained his innocence.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Ownership of the Lions, the GM, the team president, released
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: a statement of support for their new head coach. Okay,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, is it not in this country that you're
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: innocent until proven guilty? Is not how the justice system works.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: That's correct, that's how it works. There was he was
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: all charges were dropped. He was never given he never
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: went to court and never went before a grand jury
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: or any jury. All right, there was a grand jury though,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: that's where I read, Okay, But my point is all
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: charges were dropped. I didn't I did not read that.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: There was not a I didn't hear there was a
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: grand jury. But my point is there was no jury
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: trial where he had a chance to defend himself. After
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: all the investigation and everything that went through. He was
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: a college student at the time. All charges were dropped.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Is that not the case? So why is it a
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: story twenty two years later? Because but that's that's not
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: right in my opinion, it's out according to our justice system,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: he is innocent if he didn't even pursue the charges
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: that they that they had that they brought against them initially.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Why are we still talking about this? Why is this
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: a story? Why should because what happens here? The problem
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: I have with it. As soon as you read that
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: or the headline, or you just go buy the headline,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: there are people in this country right now that read
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: that and they think Matt Patricia did something wrong or illegal.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: And I have a problem with that. That is poorly
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: written and it should that is not a story. I
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: really have a problem with that. If he if someone
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: did it, can you know, go after him, throw the
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: book at him. Anyone who sexually assaults anybody or laser
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: hands on a woman inappropriately, I get it, go after him.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: They should be you know, according to the justice system,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: they should be uh tried and they they found guilty,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: penalized them to whatever the the But if something, if
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: the charges are dropped and there's never an opportunity for
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: him to defend himself, that's not fair. The writer did
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: not start out on a good foot with Matt Patricia.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: That the guy from the Detroit newspaper that wrote the
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: the article. I mean, that's he's kind of wrong in
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: my opinion. Here's a question, if this would have been
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: out before uh he was hired, would he be the
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Lion's head coach right now? If if if, if you
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: get don't watch if you if you are you are
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: harmed from getting a job because of something that was
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: never you were never convicted of, you were never tried on,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: nothing came of it. You're according to the constitution, you
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: are innocent. Our justice system innocent until proven guilty. He
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: was never even given the opportunity to defend himself, and
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: the state or the prosecutors never went after him to
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: prove that he was guilty. Why are we talking about this?
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Why is it a story? And if it harms him
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: at all in any way, I would go after the paper,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: the Rider and everything else and say what I mean,
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: you can't because they're protected. Well no, but it's hard
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: to prove a liabel. It's liabel and slander case very difficult.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: But I'm just saying what I read that this morning,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: JP and I I happened to see like I read
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: it and I'm like, come on, what a little a
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: little news clip. And they were talking about Matt Patricia's
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: you know, charged and it was like, I'm going, wait
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: about what happened? The headline was written is so inflammatory? Yeah,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: so here. My first reaction was, oh my gosh, what
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: happened recently to Matt Patricia? I think you read this?
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: And he was a college student and he was never
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: come on taking all everything was dropped? Everything? What else
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: you got? All right, let's move on. Ship bothers me
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Saints running back mark ingram a four game suspensional violation
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: of the Leak's policy on performance enhancing drugs. Ingram apparently
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: vigorously challenged the four game suspension, saying he tested positive
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: for a substance that was permissible with a proper use
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: exemption with the NFL. But it sounds like all the
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: appeals processes is done, and since it's been announced, it's
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: all that appeal. My guess is, if that's the way
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: I read that segment, and this is a complete I'm
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: assuming that it might be something like toward all that,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: not toward all, but uh, what's it? Uh the d
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: h D medicine, Uh, something like that that is actually
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: if you take that that's not prescribed that that can
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: be Uh, I'm saying, but something like that. I'm not
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: saying that's it is, but one of those drugs along
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: those like riddling or anything for a d h D.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: If you are prescribed it and you have a doctor
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: and everything else you can, you're gonna tell you're gonna
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: pop positive for that on Yeah. But if you test
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: but if you take that without the prescription or not
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: given to you by the proper you will pop positive
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: on that. And it's the four game suspension. But if
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: you looked at his attorney's response to it, it was
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: he was kind of saying that he didn't take it,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: and then if he did take it, it was okay
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: that he did. So, I mean, it's it just it
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: was a weird statement by the attorney and that he
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: was trying but based on that trying to play both
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: ways of getting out of any type of but it's
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: the way he this his statement reads. It's something along
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: those lines that one of those drugs that if you
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: have a prescription for it from a doctor, whether you test,
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: here's the deal. The NFL made a decision, doesn't matter. Yeah,
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: which comes to an interesting conversation about uh marijuana and
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: states that it's illegal and medical marijuana where it's legal
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: if that's prescribed, you as from it by a doctor.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: And today the way I understand it, the way the
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: league rules are written, even if that's prescribed by a doctor,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: you still you're out. Mean it's you're not out, but
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's against that according to the c p A.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: You're right if you if you don't like it, then
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: you just don't work for themferent But I think that's
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: something I guarantee you have a job. I like it.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: Find a different Jeff, I agree with you I'm on
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: the same page as you. I'm just saying I would
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: bet anything at the next cb A that issue marijuana
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: will be brought up in one of the discussion issues
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: of what substances are tests for and what or not,
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: just because of where the trend is going and most
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: of the country now medical moraana, I think marijuana. Think
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: over the states have medical marijuana laws and you're and
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: then a handful have full marijuana being legal. I bet
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: it. It It would be interesting to see because those type
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: of things, I mean, riddling is another one. There's certain
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: drugs that can be used as p ds or recreational drugs,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: but also can be prescribed by doctors for real medical purposes.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Do you know one of the biggest proponents, uh, the
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: guy that's really tuting horn for medical marijuana usage former
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: NFL players Eugene Monroe. Right. Uh, he's one of them. Yeah,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: he's big. Uh. Yeah. I don't know how how much
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Eugene is into it, but twitter the guy that is
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: really also out there is Marvin Washington, who I was
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: teammates with with the New York Jets, and he's been
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: really really active in it, and and you know, and
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: look if there's you know, solid medical use for it
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: as it appear as there seems to be in some
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: in some case, I know, epilepsy, and we're proved to
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: help kill especially kids with epilepsy. And then I'm all
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: for that of all the seizures that they have, that
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: can help lower the mount of seizures drastically. And I mean, listen,
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: it's for a kid that's gonna help them live whatever
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: it takes. I mean, please, there's no reason to make
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: that stop what kid from taking something like that. But
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: a little different story, I guess not really ain't to
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: do with the NFL. No, not at all. Jeff brought
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: it up. I just kind of taging along. Let's go
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: to the Metroplex. America's team is planning to pay Dak
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Prescott what he deserved. Steven Jones said that in a
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: fourth wordt Star Telegram story Wednesday. He's a fourth round picker.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Remember a four year contract of two point seven million
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: dollars total. We'll back up again his rookie contrac Wait,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: how many years? Four years? How much? Two point seven
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: million dollars total? Round? Fourth round? And do you realize
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: the quarterback for the Dallas cou you realize what you
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: know where I'm going. Okay, four years, two point seven million.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: That was more than a year. That was more that
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: I earned as a first round pick in my first come. Kid.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: That just goes how how the game has changed. That
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: was actually we were actually trying to figure this out
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: and that you know, first round pick that the year
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: that I made, it would be NFL minimum now essentially
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: for a first, second, third, and fourth year player, which
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: is I mean, just goes to show you how drastically
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: the money has changed. And for example, you know, our
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: our quarterback that we had back in the time, you know,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: and the quarterbacks in the league, we're making one point
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: three to one point seven million in back in you know,
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: in early nineties and now thirty I mean, what a change.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what a change about that. So for a
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: little more of of this roster in Dallas, Colby easily
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: the wide receiver is gonna make three point to five
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: million this year alone. The slot receivers one time, it'll come. Hey,
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: And that's the way cowboys at the lottery. Good for them.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Let me let me ask you this, are you feeling
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: star sorry for Dak Prescott. I think he's gonna be
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: just fine, okay. I mean, he's just need to bring
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: up the slot receiver. And it makes you kind of
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: like to nor like we should feel bad for him
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: for only making you know, four thousand. Well, here's the
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: ridiculous part of the whole deal. He's gonna make a
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: lot of money. So is the quote by Stephen Jones,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: who's like a very smart guy. But to say, we
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: will pay him what he's what he deserves, what these words,
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: go ahead and give him the blank check whilere out now.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: But what he's saying is I'm not committing to anything.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: We'll see what happens when he's a free agent. I'm
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: not gonna I mean, which is smart by him. I
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: said we'll cross that bridge. It's just funny that here's
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: the big quote from Stephen Jones, basically him saying, I'm
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: not gonna worry about it right now. I don't blame anything,
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: and he shouldn't. By the way, business, here's the thing.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: It's business, and that's just the way it works. Is
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: a business with an ass or business with a D.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: It's business business business. I'm not sure you spell that pronunciation,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: but that's annunciation speaking of the draft. Business could be
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: in Nashville next year. Adam Scheff reporting the Nashville's become
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: the leader to host the NFL Draft Broadway Street could be.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: That'd be pretty cool, that big. I mean, first of all,
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: love the city. Nashville is cool city. I hate Tennessee.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: Anything to do with with the Times. I hate Late May.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: The owners meetings in Atlanta, they'll figure out and announce
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: where the draft will be. All right, you going to players,
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: your sling, you will be out. You're going. I support
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: I support the community. B Did they open the ponds
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: up for fishing this weekend? That would be awesome. Se there,
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: Bryan Tire crew, thank you for listening. We'll catch you
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: next time. It's Jaguars Thursday on Jaguars Radio