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The Late Debate | 16 April · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Lateens. Welcome to the Late Base.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us on the Late Debate.
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  Speaker 3: I'm James Macpherson with Cayla Bond and Dnika Di Giorgio.
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  Speaker 3: Coming up tonight, American supermodel Tyra Banks has relocated her
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  Speaker 3: whole family to Australia, but not because of Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 3: Wait till you hear the real reason why. We'll get
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  Speaker 3: to that later. Plus when we look at what's making
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  Speaker 3: news tomorrow, a big story on the front page of
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  Speaker 3: Tomorrow's Australian as Peter Dutton makes a big announcement regarding
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  Speaker 3: changes to taxation, and the ABC under fire for featuring
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  Speaker 3: a controversial Queensland senator on their program Australian Story during
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  Speaker 3: the election campaign. All of that coming up, But first
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  Speaker 3: breaking news tonight, the UK's highest court has ruled that
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  Speaker 3: transgendered women are not in fact women. Five Supreme Court
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  Speaker 3: judges unanimously agreed that the terms woman and sex refer
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  Speaker 3: to biological realities, not to what they called acquired gender. Furthermore,
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  Speaker 3: they ruled that the concept of sex is binary. Here's
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  Speaker 3: one of the Supreme Court judges, Lord Hodge, explaining the decision.
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  Speaker 4: The unanimous decision of this Court is that the terms
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  Speaker 4: women and sex in the Equality Act two thousand and
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  Speaker 4: ten refer to a biological woman and biological sex.
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  Speaker 3: Now there were massive celebrations outside the court will show
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  Speaker 3: you some vision of that. Women's rights activists saying that
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  Speaker 3: this decision means gender self identifying is effectively dead in
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  Speaker 3: the UK. The decision follows a year long legal battle
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  Speaker 3: between a women's rights group for Women's Scotland and the
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  Speaker 3: Scottish government over the definition of a woman. The Scottish
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  Speaker 3: government wanted to argue that their gender recognition certificates should
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  Speaker 3: determine what is and is not a woman, while the
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  Speaker 3: women's group successfully argued that everybody has always understood women
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  Speaker 3: to be a biological term, not a term of self
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  Speaker 3: identification calor.
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  Speaker 2: This is a massive decision and really.
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  Speaker 3: Something that will have far reaching effects into every area
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  Speaker 3: of policy within the UK as.
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  Speaker 1: Well as should.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, look, if you had told my great grandparents
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  Speaker 5: that in twenty twenty five there would be a court
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  Speaker 5: case in the United Kingdom deciding whether or not you
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  Speaker 5: had to be born a woman in order to be
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  Speaker 5: born a woman, they probably would have chucked a back
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  Speaker 5: of a cold water over you and told you you
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  Speaker 5: were mad. But that's where we've landed in twenty twenty five,
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  Speaker 5: and thank god the court has made the correct decision here.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is you know what we're saying. This
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  Speaker 1: is fantastic, it's brilliant.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, this is the least extraordinary thing I've ever seen.
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  Speaker 5: It ought to be the least extraordinary thing I've ever
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  Speaker 5: seen in my life that a court can affirm that, yes,
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  Speaker 5: you actually need to be a biological woman in order
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  Speaker 5: to be a woman. But that's where we've landed where
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  Speaker 5: we need courts to rule these kinds of things. Now
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  Speaker 5: that this decision has been made in the UK, i'd
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  Speaker 5: like to think that it would be replicated across the
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  Speaker 5: Western world.
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  Speaker 1: If it came to it.
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  Speaker 5: But of course we've had cases already here, like a
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  Speaker 5: Giggle versus Tickle, where it seems that Australian courts are
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  Speaker 5: taking a different point of view on these matters. And
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  Speaker 5: as the court pointed out, this doesn't mean that you
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  Speaker 5: can now discriminate against transgender people. They are still, under
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  Speaker 5: law not able to be discriminated against just like any
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  Speaker 5: other person. What this simply says is that in order
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  Speaker 5: to be legally classified a woman, you have to be
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  Speaker 5: born a woman, and that allows the protection of things
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  Speaker 5: like women's sport and women's bathrooms and other exclusively female places.
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  Speaker 5: And so it should be that a court even has
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  Speaker 5: to tell us that is insane.
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  Speaker 6: I just think, how on earth is this a debate
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  Speaker 6: in twenty twenty five when a court has to decide
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  Speaker 6: or make that decision that if you are indeed a
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  Speaker 6: biological man and you decide one day that you want
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  Speaker 6: to wear a dress, you are therefore.
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  Speaker 7: Not a woman.
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  Speaker 6: Yet somehow it's taken a court.
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  Speaker 7: In the UK to come to this decision. Look for years.
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  Speaker 6: The problem is is that there's this been, this woke
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  Speaker 6: ideology which has been peddled NonStop by the left, desperate
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  Speaker 6: really to actually erase women.
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  Speaker 7: And we've seen it here in Australia, as you.
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  Speaker 6: Mentioned, but particularly overseas, under the guise of tolerance and
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  Speaker 6: under the guise of oh well, we've got hurt feelings,
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  Speaker 6: when really it is only to protect a very small
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  Speaker 6: minority of people because we know though that gender is fixed,
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  Speaker 6: it is a biological reality male and female, boy and girl.
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  Speaker 6: But if we look here in Australia, we've got a
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  Speaker 6: big problem here. And I actually think the Coalition has
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  Speaker 6: been quite spineless on this matter from the very beginning,
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  Speaker 6: because they should have come out and said no male
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  Speaker 6: and female two genders, simple as that they should say
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  Speaker 6: it is time to we're going to do something about
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  Speaker 6: kicking out men and women's sports. And I know that
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  Speaker 6: Peter Dutton has said that that is the case that
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  Speaker 6: he does agree with that will do something about it,
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  Speaker 6: actually put it into law. And the more we allow
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  Speaker 6: this warped gender ideology to fester, well, the more we
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  Speaker 6: are at risk of a very confused next generation. And
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  Speaker 6: political correctness simply should not be not defeat science and
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  Speaker 6: common practice. So I applaud this judge in the UK
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  Speaker 6: for making this decision, but the fact that it's had
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  Speaker 6: to come to this house sad.
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  Speaker 5: You mentioned the erasure of women, Danika. We've had another
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  Speaker 5: great decision come down today in New Zealand as well.
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  Speaker 1: Again this is I mean, this is just common sense stuff.
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  Speaker 5: It's crazy that we have to be sitting here lauding it,
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  Speaker 5: but that's where we've landed these days. In New Zealand,
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  Speaker 5: the Health Department had stopped referring to pregnant women and
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  Speaker 5: started talking about pregnant people and people who have a cervix,
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  Speaker 5: and people who can give childbirth, all this sort of business. Well,
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  Speaker 5: the government has said none of that anymore. It is
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  Speaker 5: pregnant women.
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  Speaker 1: Take a look.
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  Speaker 8: When it comes to a pregnant belly. It's usually easy
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  Speaker 8: to tell who's expecting, but what their pronouns are may
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  Speaker 8: not always be as clear. So how thin Zed adopted
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  Speaker 8: a gender neutral term pregnant people, a term now being
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  Speaker 8: shelved following a directive from the minister.
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  Speaker 9: I'm minister responsible for women's health, and therefore I think
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  Speaker 9: it's perfectly acceptable for me to be able to talk
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  Speaker 9: about women's health.
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  Speaker 8: Last month, she sent a letter to how Inz outlining
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  Speaker 8: the change.
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  Speaker 9: This isn't about a excluding anyone. This is about being
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  Speaker 9: clear about a messaging and I didn't you know. The
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  Speaker 9: letter is very clear.
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  Speaker 1: What a breath of fresh air. Though One News did
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  Speaker 1: manage to find one.
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  Speaker 2: Person who disagreed with this.
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  Speaker 7: What's confusing about the term pregnant people? Well, the fact
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  Speaker 7: is it's women.
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  Speaker 9: It's women that get pregnant. I think that she's ignorant
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  Speaker 9: because not only women can get pregnant.
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  Speaker 1: People who identify as being men can also be pregnant.
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  Speaker 5: Are these bloody ignorant women thinking only women can get pregnant?
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  Speaker 1: How dare they?
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  Speaker 5: But again, just a common sense decision that we wish
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  Speaker 5: someone would say something like that here in Australia.
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  Speaker 3: The bias of the media is quite interesting because that
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  Speaker 3: media report we showed you that report just from a
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  Speaker 3: little bit into it, but it actually begins by the
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  Speaker 3: journalists saying the Health Minister has defended the decision to
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  Speaker 3: instruct New Zealand Health to call pregnant women pregnant women
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  Speaker 3: rather than pregnant people.
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  Speaker 2: So the framing is interesting.
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  Speaker 3: That she's being framed as the weird one or the
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  Speaker 3: odd one for simply pointing out biological realities shows you
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  Speaker 3: how far the culture has moved when to simply say
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  Speaker 3: it's women who get pregnant is something you need to defend.
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  Speaker 3: But on top of that, the activist goes on to
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  Speaker 3: complain that referring to pregnant women is well, it's not inclusive.
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  Speaker 3: But Caleb, you'ving worked with words your entire life. The
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  Speaker 3: very point of words, if you want to use them
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  Speaker 3: to define things, is that they can't be inclusive.
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  Speaker 2: They have to be exclusive.
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  Speaker 3: A dog can't mean maybe a cat. It has to
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  Speaker 3: in a dog. So for words to have any value
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  Speaker 3: or meaning at all, they are necessarily exclusive rather than inclusionary.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it's just a matter of specificity, isn't it.
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  Speaker 5: And of course it is the erasure of women, which
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  Speaker 5: is what you were talking about earlier in Jeneka, because
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  Speaker 5: you don't see this happening with men. I mean, there
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  Speaker 5: is no facet of life or the world where they
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  Speaker 5: want to remove the reference to mean, unless, of course
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  Speaker 5: it's feminists who say that you can't have men in
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  Speaker 5: other words, because that somehow seeks time. But it is
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  Speaker 5: the erasure of women for the benefit of biological men.
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  Speaker 7: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 6: And the issue with this, and it was actually raised
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  Speaker 6: by this health minister, is that if you go to
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  Speaker 6: hospital or you go to your GP and you are
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  Speaker 6: indeed a biological female, you have specific medical conditions that
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  Speaker 6: are actually related to women, like endometriosis for example, which.
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  Speaker 7: Was used by this health minister.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you've got people, You've even got politicians around the
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  Speaker 6: world that like David Lammy, for goodness sake, the UK
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  Speaker 6: Foreign Secretary, who believe that men can have a cervix.
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  Speaker 7: Well, it's just simply not the case.
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  Speaker 6: For goodness sake, so as a doctor, you actually need
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  Speaker 6: to know who you're dealing with here, and you're dealing
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  Speaker 6: with women's specific issues. But again, why has it taken
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  Speaker 6: this long for someone to go enough is enough?
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  Speaker 7: Put an end to the madness. It's gone beyond a joke.
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  Speaker 1: Now was it the UK as well? We did this story?
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  Speaker 5: I forget when it was that they created an edict
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  Speaker 5: in the NHS where they had to ask every patient
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  Speaker 5: who came in for an X ray whether they were pregnant,
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  Speaker 5: male or female, because you know, someone who looks like
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  Speaker 5: a bloke could actually be pregnant. I mean, it's just
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  Speaker 5: straightforward common sense stuff you would think.
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  Speaker 2: And from memory that related even to teenage boys.
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  Speaker 3: It's correct to be asked, is there a possibility she
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  Speaker 3: might correct?
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  Speaker 1: For thirty year old boys?
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  Speaker 2: A parent? How ropable you would be if someone it
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  Speaker 2: is just ridiculous.
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  Speaker 5: Now, of course, if you were watching Paul Murray Live before,
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  Speaker 5: you would have had all the lowdown on the second
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  Speaker 5: Leader's debate. Tonight, of course, Anthony Albanezi and Peter Dutton
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  Speaker 5: faced off on the ABC. This time we'll get into
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  Speaker 5: a little more detail in a moment, but if you
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  Speaker 5: missed it, tears a little bit of Dutton's performance.
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  Speaker 10: We approached the third of May, many Australians will be
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  Speaker 10: asking themselves, are you better off today than you were
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  Speaker 10: three years ago? People have seen food prices go up
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  Speaker 10: by thirty percent, their mortgages have gone up on twelve
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  Speaker 10: occasions over the last two years. The government's brought in
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  Speaker 10: a million people, all of whom want homes, and all
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  Speaker 10: of whom are competing against young Australians for that rental
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  Speaker 10: property or to purchase a home. That's a million people,
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  Speaker 10: which is seventy percent higher than any two year period
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  Speaker 10: in our country's history. Anthony, your government has modeled negative
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  Speaker 10: gearing changes NCGT changes. The Treasurer has done that.
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  Speaker 2: That's not right.
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  Speaker 5: Well, now, look, I don't think there were any knockout
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  Speaker 5: blows from Peter Dutton here. I don't think he walked
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  Speaker 5: in there and had Anthony Albanisi on the floor completely defeated.
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  Speaker 5: I think he did a decent job, But there was
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  Speaker 5: nothing that made me look at that debate and go, well,
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  Speaker 5: this is really going to turn the dial. Of course,
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  Speaker 5: Anthony Alberizi was talking up his economic.
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  Speaker 11: We are the only government in the last twenty years
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  Speaker 11: that have produced consecutive budget surpluses and we've harved the
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  Speaker 11: deficit this year as a direct result of the responsible
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  Speaker 11: economic management that we have. Then debt is one hundred
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  Speaker 11: and seventy seven billion dollars less.
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  Speaker 5: Now, interestingly, they were both asked what sort of great
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  Speaker 5: economic legacy they would leave. They were given the example
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  Speaker 5: of John Howard and the GST floating the dollar, as
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  Speaker 5: Paul Keating did, what is the great economic vision that
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  Speaker 5: your government has or would have? Peter Dutton referred to
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  Speaker 5: nuclear which I think is a fair thing to nominate.
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  Speaker 5: That is a serious policy. But the one Albaneas he
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  Speaker 5: came up with, of all the things he could possibly say,
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  Speaker 5: this is the great reform my government will achieve, is
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  Speaker 5: affordable childcare. Something tells me that in twenty years time,
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  Speaker 5: people won't be looking back at this government and going,
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  Speaker 5: you know, that great reform that Anthony Albanesi pushed through,
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  Speaker 5: affordable childcare. If that's as good as his vision gets,
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  Speaker 5: it tells us a lot about where this government is at.
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  Speaker 5: There were a couple of other slip ups won by
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  Speaker 5: Anthony Albanzi when he was asked point blank, when the
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  Speaker 5: hell are power bills going to come.
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  Speaker 12: Down, sorry, and just stick with your plan, mister Albanezi,
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  Speaker 12: When will the bills come down under our plan?
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  Speaker 11: We know that renewables are the cheapest form of power
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  Speaker 11: and that is why we are doing that, rolling it out,
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  Speaker 11: including through gas. Peter Raet's gas gas is now thirteen dollars.
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  Speaker 11: It was thirty dollars and when we came cheaper, when
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  Speaker 11: we came off, thirteen is cheaper than thirty.
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  Speaker 12: When do we.
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  Speaker 5: Indeed, thirteen is cheaper than thirty. But two hundred and
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  Speaker 5: seventy five is also a lot cheaper than what I'm
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  Speaker 5: paying on my power bill at the moment, isn't it?
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  Speaker 5: Mister ab Albanzi. He couldn't answer the question once again,
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  Speaker 5: and the one that slipped up Peter Dudden. I think
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  Speaker 5: it was a big mistake he made when he was
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  Speaker 5: asked whether he trusts Donald Trump. And we know that
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  Speaker 5: there has been a want to link Donald Trump to
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  Speaker 5: Peter Dutton, and obviously it's coming through in the polling
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  Speaker 5: now that that's actually sticking to Dutton a bit. So
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  Speaker 5: Dutton took the tech that will I've not met the bloke,
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  Speaker 5: so I can't say that I trust him. And then
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  Speaker 5: Albo was asked, do you trust Peter Duddon, sorry, trust Donald?
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  Speaker 1: Then you go I'm making the link. Now do you
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  Speaker 1: trust Donald Trump?
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  Speaker 5: And Albanez he simply said, yes, of course I do.
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  Speaker 5: For someone who wants to be the Prime Minister to
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  Speaker 5: not say that they trust the leader of the free world,
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  Speaker 5: the leader of one of our closest allies, it was
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  Speaker 5: a very strange I.
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  Speaker 6: Thought that was a very very messy moment by Peter Dutton,
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  Speaker 6: and I just wonder if that has been Is that
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  Speaker 6: now the campaign strategy? I wonder if that's what his
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  Speaker 6: team has told him to say whenever you're asked about
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  Speaker 6: Donald Trump, to say, I don't know the bloke, just
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  Speaker 6: keep him at an arms distance, simply because of the comparisons.
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  Speaker 6: But it's actually made the situation worse because if you
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  Speaker 6: are asked, do you trust Donald Trump, our number one ally,
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  Speaker 6: the leader of the free world, the answer is.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, you do.
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  Speaker 6: You should have absolute confidence in the leader of the
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  Speaker 6: free world. Who cares if you know him? Who cares
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  Speaker 6: if you don't know him. I don't care if you
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  Speaker 6: haven't shook his hand or not yet. But I thought
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  Speaker 6: that was the biggest slip up of the night. What
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  Speaker 6: I will say though, is that I think that Peter
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  Speaker 6: Dutton for the first time was on message, short and sharp,
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  Speaker 6: and he finally stuck to.
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  Speaker 7: The cost of living. There was no dilly dallying left
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  Speaker 7: or right.
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  Speaker 6: It was straight down the line, because that's the message
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  Speaker 6: that Australians want to hear.
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  Speaker 7: They want to know.
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  Speaker 6: How he's going to help with their power bills, what
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  Speaker 6: he's going to do. It's very easy to get Anthony
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  Speaker 6: albneasy on energy. I mean, for goodness, going in circles,
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  Speaker 6: renewable is the best option.
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  Speaker 7: Renewables are always cheaper.
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  Speaker 6: Well, we know that renewables are not the cheapest option
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  Speaker 6: because our power bills have gone in the exact opposite
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  Speaker 6: direction under this labor fantasy. But there was also another
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  Speaker 6: slip up that I thought was interesting by Anthony Alberizi tonight.
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  Speaker 6: It just goes to show he has no idea where
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  Speaker 6: the figures are coming from from key policies. He claimed
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  Speaker 6: that Labor I did not model the overhaul of negative
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  Speaker 6: gearing and capital's gains tax, despite.
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  Speaker 7: The fact that the Treasurer actually asked.
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  Speaker 6: Treasury to do that last year and now both slipped
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  Speaker 6: up on it.
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  Speaker 7: He's like, well, you know, No, we've got the modeling.
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  Speaker 7: We've got the modeling.
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  Speaker 6: He has no idea where the modeling has come from,
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  Speaker 6: just like you didn't know where that Reputech's modeling came
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  Speaker 6: from a couple of years ago to model that two
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  Speaker 6: hundred and seventy five dollars. But I thought, for the
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  Speaker 6: first time tonight Dunn was on message very well on cost.
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  Speaker 2: Of living well.
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  Speaker 3: He had one line that will be repeated at in
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  Speaker 3: Nausim over the next couple of weeks, and that is a.
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  Speaker 2: Simple question, are you better off after the last three
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  Speaker 2: years of Anthony Elbanizi.
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  Speaker 3: It was a ligne used by David Christo Folly very
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  Speaker 3: successfully in the Queensland election. And that's the one he's
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  Speaker 3: got a hammer home because he doesn't need to say
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  Speaker 3: any more than that everybody instinctively knows. But on those
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  Speaker 3: other issues he was off. In terms of do you
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  Speaker 3: trust Donald Trump? Will I don't know him? It was
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  Speaker 3: almost an attempt to just push away that whole Trump question,
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  Speaker 3: and clearly they should know that question is one of
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  Speaker 3: the main questions that's being asked of him. That's the
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  Speaker 3: big charge of the government against the opposition. You're too
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  Speaker 3: closely aligned with Trump. He should have had a better
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  Speaker 3: answer than that. And whether you know Trump or not,
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  Speaker 3: I mean you were part of the Scott Morrison government.
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  Speaker 3: Morrison has a very close relationship with Trump, Joe Hockey
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  Speaker 3: has a very close relationship with Trump, and Dutton.
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  Speaker 2: That's a poor answer.
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  Speaker 3: But on top of that, when asked about climate change,
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  Speaker 3: Dutton said well, I'm not a scientist. Yeah, well I'm
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: glad they didn't ask him what a woman was or
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: if probably would have said I'm not a biologist. And
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: so to say well, I'm not a scientist and thinking
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: that is going to put to bed the climate issue,
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: that climate issue will be asked again and again. You've
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: got to have a better answer than that.
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: And this is what has annoyed me about the Coalition's
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: campaign and the campaign as a whole, and I talked
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: about this the other night, is the lack of vision
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: and the lack of certainty. Right, Peter Dutt and the
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: Coalition don't seem to want to nail their colors to
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: the mass because you know, part of the trouble is
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: that elections are played in marginal seats in this country. Right,
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: It's not about what the broader public wants. It's what,
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: you know, a small number of people in a small
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: number of electrics want, and so they don't want to
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: spook the crowds, and so they won't actually commit and say, yes,
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: this is what I believe. So Peter Dutton is afraid
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: to say. He could have just simply said, of course
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: I believe in climate change, but I think the effects
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: of man made climate change are overstated, and my number
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: one goal is to make sure that we can turn
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: the lights on for a decent price. Right, that's the
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: answer to that question. But you don't want to put
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: people off side on the left of the Liberal Party.
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: You don't want to put people off side in the
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: teal seats that they're trying to ring back, so they
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: can't actually commit to a serious line.
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: She doesn't also want to upset the moderates within the
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: Liberal Party, and that is the other big issue. But
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: what we didn't say tonight, though, was Anthony Auberneasy waving
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: around his Medicare card.
• 18:08
  Speaker 7: What a shame. I was looking forward to that.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: Just before you go on, there was a great moment
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: where Dunton could have absolutely slammed Albaneza on the Trump thing,
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: where Albanezi says, of course, I trust Donald Trump. Dunton
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: should have immediately jumped in and said, just a couple
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: of years ago you.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Said Trump scared them expletive out of it.
• 18:24
  Speaker 7: That's really what happened.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: There were some moments where I just thought should have
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: really nailed Yes, missed the moment, a couple of miss moments.
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: Well, look Caleb mentioned the teals there and gee, we've
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: got to talk about till MP Monique Ryan. Sorry excuse me,
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: doctor Monique Ryan. Part of me that for that extreme rudeness,
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: my absolute mistake. But look she's offended again by something.
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: Would you believe she must be clearly under pressure. Now,
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: for those of you at home who don't know about
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: this new Barbie box trend that's happening all over social media,
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: whereby an AI image is generated of oneself next to
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: some accessories that could be your hobbies or things that
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: you like. Well, the Victorian Liberal Party has put out
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: a meme of Monique Ryan.
• 19:09
  Speaker 7: And well she wasn't too impressed. Here it is now. Look,
• 19:11
  Speaker 7: I actually think it's quite funny.
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: Here we have Monique Ryan as a Barbie style toy
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: under the label Monic Ryan votes with the green seventy
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: seven percent of the time. Batteries not included may require
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: Climate two hundred funding to operate. And as you can
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: see those very good accessories there, the doctor with a mask,
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: her famous line mask put your mask back on the
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: greens and Amelia Hamer sign her liberal opponent. Of course,
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: you know her husband was taking down those Amelia Hamers signs.
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: And this one's really great, the first till Prime Minister
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: a dream journal.
• 19:44
  Speaker 7: But here's the catch in all of this.
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: The doctor, the doctor herself has claimed that this was sexist. Yes,
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: she's ripped out that old chestnut because she's so offended.
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: She's putting this down to sexism. In fact, she says,
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: and I quote in March twenty twenty four in the
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: Age Emiliahama called out sexism and said there wouldn't be
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: any cat fighting in the twenty twenty five Couyong campaign.
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: The liberal campaign is negative and personal. And then she
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: went on to say that this is nothing other than insulting. Well,
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: you know what, Monique, it's all a bit of fun,
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: isn't it. I think we can all have a bit
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: of love. I actually think it was quite hilarious. In fact,
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: I think it is a perfect description of all of
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: the summaries of exactly what Monique has done in Parliament,
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: and that is absolutely nothing other than telling people to
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: wear a mask.
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: And she specifically said that the women of Couyong would
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: see nothing other than insulting.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, how is this.
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: Sexist in any way? The Liberal Party's done this to
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: men as well. They've done it to Anthony ALBINIZI, they've
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: done it to Alex Dyson, who's running down in the western.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Districts in Victoria. Well, another one of these independent.
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: She's not a sexist thing whatsoever, unless she thinks it's
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: sexist because she looks a bit frumpy.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: In the doll.
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: But I can tell you that it doesn't. A friend
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: of mine did one for me the other day and
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: I came out looking a bit poorky. Well, I actually
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: am as well, well, what we are like that done?
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: What were your accessory?
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: It was a bottle of red.
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: There was a race horse and it actually said unprompted
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: under my name, it said the voice of common Sense.
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: It wasn't told to do that. It just worked it
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: out for itself. So chat GPT knows what's up. But seriously,
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: to try and claim this is sexist. I mean it
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: harkens back to Julia Gillard when she decided it'd be
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: a good idea to go after Tony Abbott by claiming
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: he was sexist for looking at his watch for Heaven's
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: sake in Parliament and then went on with that misogyny
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: speech that the ABC later put to music.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: I've heard it on Classic FM, by the way.
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: Terrible, but oh we'll pull out the sexism one and
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: you can't possibly argue with that.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: It's not sexist.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: Yes, sexism is the claiming sexism is the refuge of
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: people who don't have an argument. And of course, as
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: you pointed out, similar action figures were created of men
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Anthony Albanezi, although brilliantly they called Anthony Albanese's action figure
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: and in action figure, which I thought was good.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: But was that sexism?
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: Of course it wasn't funny how Monique Ryan has strong
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: opinions about memes, but it's completely clueless about things like integrity.
• 22:14
  Speaker 12: Should it be clear to voters people who are looking
• 22:16
  Speaker 12: at this content that it's paid for by the politician.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: I don't really have an opinion on it.
• 22:22
  Speaker 12: Really, you think voters deserve to know that if someone
• 22:28
  Speaker 12: they're watching is saying great things about a politician, whether
• 22:30
  Speaker 12: they're being paid by that politician.
• 22:33
  Speaker 7: I have to give some thought. It's not something I've
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: given great thought to myself.
• 22:36
  Speaker 12: You have to give that some thought.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Well, I would think that it would be clear.
• 22:44
  Speaker 7: I don't know. I think I'd have to give it
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: some thought done.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Strong opinions about memes, though, I'm going to say, just
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: before we move on, I was wondering am I being
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: hypocritical here? Because I was quite critical of the Labor
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: Party with those memes about three eyed fish regarding the
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: nuclear debate. But somehow I like these action figures, and
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: I think the difference is this, when it's got truth
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: to it, it's witty and it's clever, and it exposes
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: the hypocrisy of people and things. That's when it's really
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: on point. And that's a difference between the Labor Party
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: and some of the stuff that's been coming out from.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: The Liberals in this election.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: The Liberals have been witty because it's been clever, because
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: it's been based on truth. Speaking of truth in politics,
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: check out this photograph after the Labor Party campaign launch
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: of some Labor luminaries you've got in this photograph Tanny Pliparsek,
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: the Environment Minister, Julia Gillard, former Prime Minister and former
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Treasurer Wayne Swan.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Now there they.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Are after the labor campaign launch in the Quantus Chairman's lounge,
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: readying to catch their flights. Now that's the photo Tanny
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: pliparcc put on Instagram. Have a look now at the
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: photo Wayne Swan put on social media and tell me
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: if you notice any difference, Deanika, I just swap the
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: photos around against jos the first one, here's the original
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: against even spot the difference there it is And now
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: Wayne Swan, Denika, what is going on here?
• 24:22
  Speaker 7: I don't know. I'm not too sure what's happened there.
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: All I can think of is that perhaps old Swanny
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: he's got himself on the photo shop app and has
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: done a little diy job out there, and he hasn't
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: done a very good.
• 24:31
  Speaker 7: Job at it.
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: Oh, because of course that that photo was taken at
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: the quantity maybe.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: In the cost of living crisis, where you're promising to
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: stand up for the battlers, to five minutes later have
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: yourself swanning around, yes, unintended in the Quantus Chairman's Lambs.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: Not only that, when you're the environed minister who claims
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: that omissions are going to destroy the planet, probably shouldn't
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: be closing up to the aviation sector. And of course
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Julia Gillard, who put a carbon tax on us all
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: aviation of course causes numerous omissions, shouldn't be pictured there either.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: I've got to be honest, though ninety nine percent of
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: people wouldn't have known what the quantus Gairman clubs. Anyway,
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: I look at the photo, I thought it was the
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Greens party room.
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: It's only because he did that edit that anyone is
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: now talking about the fact that the photo was dagging
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: in the.
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: Chairman because I saw it a few days ago on
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: X and I remember thinking what an odd photograph to
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: be putting up.
• 25:29
  Speaker 7: I was completely confused by it. But you know what
• 25:31
  Speaker 7: they've done.
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: It is because they were in Perth and originally right
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: for the launch of the Labor Party campaign, where they're
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: out there, they're spreaking cost of living measures, they're spooking
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: housing and they've.
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: Gone, oh, I wonder what it would look.
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: Like if we take a photo together in the most
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: exclusive club in Australia.
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: How would that look to be honest, I actually don't.
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: Think anybody would care where you've taken this photo.
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: But you know what, the cover up is worse than
• 25:55
  Speaker 7: the crime.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: I say it's a positive here they finally found two
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: people who are happy to hug and.
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: I think you're we know they're in the Chairman's lounge anyway.
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: But I would say to Wayne Swan, if you think
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: it's a bit ropey that you were in the Chairman's
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: lounge so much so that you've got to edit it
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: out of the photos so people don't see that you
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: were in the chairman's lounge, why did you go in
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: there in the first race. You know, if you think
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: it's not a great look, maybe just don't go to
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: the Chairman's lounge. But those benefits and free one and
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: whatever they're getting in there from Quantus must be too
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: good to refuse, particularly even after they've left politics, because Swanne,
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: of course has been out of the game for quite
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: some time now. Over at the ABC, we know they're
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: terribly racist because they did a report themselves into the
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: state of racism at the ABC asked their own staff
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: what was going on, and they came back and said,
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: there is a terrible problem with racism in this outfit.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: So they came up with a solution. They have now
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: hired an elder in residence. This is reporting today.
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: The Elder in residence this is of course an Indigenous
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: person role who's created in twenty twenty four in response
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: to the Listen Loudly, Act Strongly report which I mentioned before,
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: an independent review of the ABC systems and processes in
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: support of staff who experience racism. The review found only
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: one of the one hundred and twenty participants, comprising of
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: current and former ABC staff, described not personally experiencing racism
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: in the workplace. So the ABC must be one of
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: the most racist places in the country to work.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: So they've decided this will fix it all.
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: Will have an elder in residence who will go around
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: talking to management and supporting apparently indigenous staff, and that
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: will solve racism in the ABC. I couldn't believe of
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: reading the story and this woman who's been appointed professor
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: Jackie Huggins, and good luck to her.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: I'm sure she'll try her best over at the ABC.
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: But I thought, you know, this must be the first
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: time that they've employed someone to deal specifically with Indigenous
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: staff because the ABC thinks that's a problem.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: But she was asked, what are you looking forward.
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: To when you're working here at the ABC now, and
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: she said that she was really looking forward to as
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: the Elder in residence, to working with the Director of
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: First Nation Strategy. So they've already got someone else on
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: the books and the Bonner Committee, which is an advisory
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: committee that the ABC had already set up to advise
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: it on matters relating to Indigenous staff.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: So the ABC has such.
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: A problem with racism now that they have three separate
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: entities working on the rampant racism against Indigenous people in
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: the ABC. I mean, I can't believe anyone still works well.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: At least we know if racism continues what they'll do.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: They'll add a fourth, a fourth and a fantast.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Sixth later to all of that.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: I found strange in the original report, which came out
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: after famously Stan Grant left the ABC complaining he hadn't
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: received adequate support about racism. You've received both from outside
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: and within the ABC. But that report claimed that many
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: of those one hundred and twenty people who were interviewed
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: said they'd been passed over for promotion because they had
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: been considered diversity HighRes. You're only there because you know,
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: you've been ticking a diversity box.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: So the report recommended the answer was.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: To have more people of diverse backgrounds in leadership positions.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: But isn't that simply opening them up to the continued chart.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Correct, You're only in a leadership.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: Position because you are from a diverse group of people.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: So every step where they try to solve this racism
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: issue missus the point.
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: Well, it's classic DEI, isn't it.
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: And I would actually like to know how much we're
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: paying this woman to do it, because I noticed that
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: in her role, Professor Huggins will provide cultural guidance to
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: management and leadership teams. What on earth can someone please
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: explain what is cultural guidance and why do.
• 29:54
  Speaker 7: You need it?
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: And honestly, the other question I have to ask is
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: how many people do the ABC hire?
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: How many people do you need to fulfill.
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: One role in the company that I just don't actually
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: think they have any concept? And once again our money
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: is going towards funding more ideological bias and ideological nonsense
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: from the public broadcaster. And that is what the scary
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: part is here Again, what are they doing.
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: But if you can justify having an elder in residence,
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: I mean, how do you then justify not having an
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: Indian in residence and isra Lankan in residence and an
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: Italian in residence and on and on it goes. I
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: mean they've singled out specifically Indigenous people here as needing
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: a special mentor and advocate within the ABC. Well what
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: about every other racial minority. Where's the homosexual in residence?
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: Because of course there are gay people at the ABC
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: who feel like they've been discriminated against, et cetera. Where's
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: the woman in residence? Because there was another report that
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: was done that said there's rampant sexual harassment in the ABC.
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: I mean you can't just stop at an elder in residence, surely,
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: no you can't.
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: Well, look, let's move on now to the United Nations
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: Climate Conference. Yes, you know, the one COP thirty one,
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: where a bunch of green zalots, mostly elites, fly into
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: these conferences held all around the world on their private jets.
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: Doesn't matter, never mind though the carbon emissions.
• 31:17
  Speaker 7: But to guess what it could actually be coming.
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: To a city near you soon because Adelaide is now
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: in the running to host it, but spare a thought
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: for the South Australian Police Commissioner. He says that there
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: is not enough manpower would you believe, to actually protect
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: the event from any sort of security fears. Here is
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: Grant Stevens talking about how concerned he was. He says, quote,
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: when I was first told about Cop thirty one and
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: the significance of the event in the scale of it,
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: I was pretty relieved that it was in twenty thirty
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: one because there's every chance I might be retired and
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: watching from the sidelines. And then they said, oh no, no,
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: Cop twenty one is in two thousand and twenty six.
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: Poor bugger just wanted to have a couple of years
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: of enjoying his last few years in the police force,
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: and now he has to deal with this mammoth, absolute
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: nonsense event.
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: Now, not only are events like this.
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: A complete waste of time, but they are such a.
• 32:17
  Speaker 7: Burden on the taxpayer.
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: In fact, the Coalition estimates that this is going to
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: cost tens of billions of dollars. But now we have
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: a situation where South Australia is saying, hang on, we
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: don't have enough manpower to protect all these elites coming
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: in from here, there and everywhere, and so they're saying, well,
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: we're going to have to get resources from other states
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: flowed in to look after it.
• 32:36
  Speaker 7: So it means that they're going.
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: To have to give up police officers from other states,
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: take them off the beat to bring it into South
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: Australia in the event that Adelaide actually hosts this and
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: really for what a junket that's run by clinatic, by
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: climate fanatics.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: And how insulting is that to the people of Adelaide
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: who've experienced crime crisis and there's clearly not enough police
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: as it is. But what they'll do for the world's
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: elite is they'll fly in a hold of extra police
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: officers just for the couple of weeks that Cop thirty
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: one is on and then when all the elites leave,
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: those police officers will go and the good people of
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: Adelaide will be back to their clime crisis and not
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: enough police to handle it. My big concern with this
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: is you just really hope none of these delegates required
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: accident and emergency in a local hospital in Adelaide because
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: they not only have not enough police, but there's not
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: enough ambulances, there's not enough hospitals.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: I tell this story all the time because they still
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: can't get over it. When they built the new Royal
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: Adelaide Hospital, right, you would think if you're going to
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: knock down an old hospital and build a new one,
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: population is going to go up, obviously, right, so you
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: put more beds in the new hospital. No, they built
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: a new Royal Adelaide Hospital with fewer beds than.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: The old Royal Adelaide Hospital. I mean, addiom, it makes
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: no sense at all.
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: At least it's not as bad as through the Amazon now,
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: where they're actually just cutting down swathes of the Amazonian rainforest.
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: They can build a big road in order to get
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: all the people to the cop conference because they don't
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: know how to transport all the people.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: Who's excited about Cops thirty one't they go on plane spotters?
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: Indeed, well there'll be fantastic planes coming in well, by
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: the way. But they want to bring in coppers from
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: New Zealand too, not just Australia. I mean, how many
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: gobbers can you possibly?
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: We've got the other person who'll be excited about is
• 34:20
  Speaker 7: Chris Bowen.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well, and this is the whole point, the point, right,
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: But it's a chance for Anthony Albanezi and Chris Bowen
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: to grandstand on a global platform paid for by the
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: Australian taxpayer. And of course they make a big deal
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: of it's going to bring five hundred million dollars worth
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: of economic activity.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Into the state of South Australia.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: Sure, but what is the Australian government promising in terms
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: of climate financing to other nations in order to qualify
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: to host this massive junker.
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: Well, we get to gather around, That's all I care
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: about it.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: We the gather.
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: And the great environmental thing that Peter Malinowskis did for
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: South Australia was get the super cars back in Adelaide,
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: pumping out all that diesel and fumes and stuff. It's fantastic,
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: isn't it. James mentioned private planes before. One bloke who
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: recently bought her a private jet was Mike cannon Brooks,
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: and we know he's a tech billionaire and he's also
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: big on the eco warrior stuff. That's why he needs
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: the private jets so he can get around. He reckons
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: it's carbon neutral the way he runs it. But would
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: you believe it turns out now that he's been muddying
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: up the environment, not just with his plane, but on
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: the land that he owns. He's been doing some works
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: on his farm and the local landowners around him. Notice
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: there was all this noise going on, all these earthworks,
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: and there was contaminated water flowing into their dams and
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: that's potentially now moving down to reservoirs. So the local
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: councils got on to him and said, mate, what the
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: hell are you doing. You're churning up the dirt, You're
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: sending dirty water down to the reservoirs and into other
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: people's dams. I mean, he is clearly an environmental warrior.
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: Everyone else has to do the good environmental work except me.
• 36:00
  Speaker 6: But this is the thing with the eco warries. It's
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: the old do as I say, not as I do
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: kind of attitude. I mean, the man the man flow
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: a plant private jet recently didn't need to the Grand
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: Prix in Melbourne. I mean, never mind that the carbon
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: emissions from the private jet, but you've got to get
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: to the Grand Prix.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: Well, he didn't just fly it to the Grand Prix.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: He's got a part stake in a Grand Prix team.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: So it's not bad work if you can afford it
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: and of course to offset the emissions. It's good to
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: be a billionaire unlike the rest of us. We're going
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: to go to a break. When we come back, we'll
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: look at what's making news tomorrow, including a big story
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: on the front page of The Australian regarding the future
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: of taxation under a Peter Dutton government that's coming up
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: in just a moment.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Welcome back.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: Well, let's take a look at what's making news in
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: tomorrow's papers. We'll start with The Australian. Caleb we they've
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: got a big story on Peter Dutton's aspirations regarding the
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: taxation system.
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: Indeed, some actual change, some real policy here.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Thank god it's a bit late anyway.
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: Peter Dutton has moved to recharge his election campaign with
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: an aspirational pledge for the indexation of personal income tax
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: scales to signal his credentials as an economic reformer. The
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: opposition leader also seed in an exclusive interview with The
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: Australian at the midpoint of the campaign, I want to
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: see us move as quickly as we can as a
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: country to changes around the personal income tax, including indexation,
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: because bracket creep, as we know, is a killer in
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: the economy.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: He says.
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: It stifles productivity and entrepreneurialism.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: And hard work.
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: But we need to do it at a time, he says,
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: where the budget can afford to do so. It would
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: be an aspiration of our government to achieve that because
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: it provides equity in the tax system and is costly.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: To do so.
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: So this is the problem, right, He's saying we should
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: index the tax rate, but we're not going to index
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: the tax rates until we've paid off all of the debt.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: That we have.
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: Essentially, this is exactly what Malcolm Fraser did in the
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: late seventies the tax rates and then very quickly found
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: that he had high debt that he couldn't pay down
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: because he was getting much less tax than he was before.
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: And it was either eighty one or eighty two. He
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: got rid of that and it's not changed since. So look,
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: I think it's a great policy. Absolutely income text should
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: be indexed to inflation to stop bracket creep, but it
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: will be a brave government that actually does.
• 38:23
  Speaker 7: I agree.
• 38:24
  Speaker 6: I think it is a very good policy, and I
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: think finally we're actually seeing something around bracket creep, which
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: neither party has put on the table thus far. My
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: only concern is he should have announced this at the
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: very beginning of the campaign because now he doesn't have
• 38:36
  Speaker 6: a lot of time to go and sell it. And
• 38:37
  Speaker 6: don't forget that prepole opens in about a week or
• 38:40
  Speaker 6: so and there's a lot of people going to the
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: pre pole to try and win over those undersided voters.
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: This is a very big cell to put forward to
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: the Australian people. I wish it would have happened sooner.
• 38:49
  Speaker 6: He's going to have to try and get this over
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: in know what. It reminds me of when Scott Morrison,
• 38:53
  Speaker 6: in the dying days of the campaign last time said oh, well,
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: if you want to you know, you want to buy home,
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: you can withdraw from your superannuation.
• 39:00
  Speaker 7: Again. Great, but it was too late. It was too
• 39:03
  Speaker 7: late by that point.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: So yeah, but your sentiments are reflected on the front
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: page in the commentary by Paul Kelly. The headline there
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: reads leader finally flicks the switch and I think, Caleb,
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: that's what a lot of Conservative voters and supporters of
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: Peter Dutton have been waiting for. Give us a big
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: vision that's going to structurally fix the country and set
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: us up for the future, rather than just tinkering around
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: the edges. So he's got a couple of weeks to
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: sell this. It's a big idea and well he needs something,
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: so it will certainly dominate the news tomorrow.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: That's yeah.
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: And of course the other thing that will come with
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: it if you want to make it happen, if he
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: wants to do it in a term of government that
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: he's leading, is a period of austerity as well, because
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: you know, he's saying, we've got to get the budget
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: in a position where we can afford to do this,
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: and in order to do that, we're hurdling towards the
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: trillion dollars of debt next year one point two trillion dollars.
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: So we've got to pull our belts in very tightly
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: if we want to What is giving us he's giving.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: Us, Yeah, exactly, he's.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Looking for it, trying to find it. Whether you want
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: to take the country.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's he's been good. I think it's
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: I think it's very.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: His credit on energy, his cast vision in the future.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: Now we've got an economic vision that people could get
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: on board with.
• 40:16
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but week one, week one, Yeah, where was it
• 40:18
  Speaker 7: on week one?
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: It is it is like another story on the front
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: of the Olds tomorrow. China pools are swifty with nade
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: in Vietnam.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: This is a hilarious story.
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: It's a Chinese scheme that would see in Donald Trump
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: and his anti trade hawks apoplectic. A manufacturer of massage
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: machines and Neie massage and I'm massage and the top
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: seller in the US a leg massage. Apparently admidst the
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: US presidents one hundred and forty five percent tariffs on
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: Chinese exports have created a problem for his factory in
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: China's southeast.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: So what what can I possibly do about this?
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: He wants to do a deal with a factory in
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: Vietnam now, but it says will he open a factory
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: then no, he answers. But even the slightest division. He
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: intends to sell the Vietnamese partner the finished product, these massages,
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: which will continue to be made in the same Chinese factory.
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: Then put it on another container with a stamp that
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: says made in Vietna.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Great work.
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: You just sell it to the Vietnamese and then they
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: say they made it.
• 41:22
  Speaker 7: That's smart. That's smart marketing.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: It's smart marketing until you put it on the front
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: page of the Australia for everyone to read.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: How smart is that?
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Not that smart?
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: I would have thought, let's go to Queensland the Towns
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: bulletin newspaper. I just like the headline here at where's
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: Polly to take off? Obviously of where's Wally? With Albanezi
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: and Dutton in there, Where's Wally? Hats just making the
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: point that North Queensland feel pretty much ignored during this campaign.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: North Queensland has always feel ignored in election campaigns, so
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: not much new. They're The Cam's Post Staying in North
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: Queensland has a story on the election campaign in the
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: ABC's coverage of it. Senator Slam's Public Broadcasters doco on
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: Kata It's not your ABC, It's Bob's ABC. According to
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: the Post, the Queensland Senator has called for an investigation
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: into the ABC's decision to air a documentary profiling Maverick
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: MP Bob Catter during the federal election campaign, arguing the
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: public broadcaster had failed.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: The integrity test.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: But Auntie has hit back declaring there's no likelihood of
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: mister Catta losing the outback queens And seat to LNP
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: rival and it's Swain despite having previously lost the popular
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: vote in twenty thirteen. Now Australian Story went to air
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: on Monday night and it was a pretty.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Flattering profile of Bob Catter.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: What do you think, Danika, is a poor form of
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: the ABC running that during an election campaign?
• 42:49
  Speaker 7: Or I mean, look, does it really matter? To be honest?
• 42:52
  Speaker 7: Is it that really that big of a deal? And
• 42:54
  Speaker 7: let's be I mean, come, I think this is a
• 42:56
  Speaker 7: bit of it, a bit up, don't you think?
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: And they haven't named the senator on the front agent
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: and the stories have been published ill sweet, so we
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: don't actually know.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: Who it is to see this, But I mean.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: You know, how salty do you have to be to
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: go oh that?
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: You know Bob Katter, who's been involved in pology, you.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: Know, fifty sixty years.
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: Almost his entire life. He's the father of the House,
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: the longest serving person in Federal Parliament. Australian Story does
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: a doco on him.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: How dare they do that? That's supporting the Bobcatta campaign?
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: Does anyone seriously believe that the ABC would be supporting
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: Bobcatter ramp I think it's a beat. They've done a
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: doco on someone who's been involved in politics for a
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: long time.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: It's no more, no less.
• 43:37
  Speaker 7: No I agree.
• 43:38
  Speaker 6: Well, let's have a look now at the Adelaide Advertiser.
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: Addict Spears gave cocaine to Speaks. I feel preyed upon,
• 43:45
  Speaker 6: as the headline. One of the men David Spears supplied
• 43:48
  Speaker 6: cocaine too, has spoken out to say he felt preyed
• 43:51
  Speaker 6: upon by the then alternative premier who gave him drugs
• 43:54
  Speaker 6: despite knowing he was a recovering drug addict.
• 43:57
  Speaker 7: Addict.
• 43:58
  Speaker 6: Peter Zubik twenty eight, who met Spears when he was
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: fifteen through their mutual church, said at one meeting at
• 44:04
  Speaker 6: Spears's home that then opposition leader snorted a high a
• 44:08
  Speaker 6: lot of high purity cocaine. Mister Zoobik has also revealed
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: a stream of Instagram messages from Spears in which he.
• 44:14
  Speaker 7: Talks about drug use and sex.
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: I feel taken advantage of, He's told The Adelaide Advertiser.
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: I was at about one hundred days clean at the
• 44:21
  Speaker 6: time of seeing him. Look, we know that this is
• 44:26
  Speaker 6: a long a long way. This the story has got
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: a long way to go, clearly for David Spears here
• 44:32
  Speaker 6: remember initially he said it was deep fakes.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: And that's the thing.
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: And this is a thing if you are a politician,
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: the opposition leader know, list just keep your powder dry,
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: it would you know? Obviously these are allegations on the
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: front of the paper tomorrow, but I just I just
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: spear for the Liberal Party in South Australia and plenty
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: of other people as well, that this is the quality
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: they ended up with. Let's go to the front of
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: the Herald's sun where it says tomorrow Election twenty twenty
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: five Lives promise two hundred and sixty million dollars for
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: new tech colleges.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Good stuff.
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: This I think teen head starts the headline. The Coalition
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: has promised two hundred and sixty million to build twelve
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: new technical colleges to turbo charge the nation's skills pipeline
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: if it wins government on May three. Dutton says he
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: wants to see more young Australians learn a trade. A
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: national network, he says, of Australian technical colleges will help
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: skill the next generation of workers.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: We need to build.
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: More homes and infrastructure here here. I don't know why
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: we've been without them for so long. I mean it
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: used to be in my grandparents' day that if you
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: got to high school were often you didn't, but if
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: you got to high school, you went to an academic
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: high school, or you went to a technical high school.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: At some point we got rid of all the tech.
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: Schools, and then we wonder why we've got kids who
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: come out of UNI with a BA degree and can't
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: get a job because we're not setting them up for
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: the jobs they should be taken.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: And we're desperate for tradesmen so much so that many
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: people believe we should import them from overseas. There's plenty
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: of young people's a lot of young boys, especially as
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: a father, boys they want to be involved in a trade.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: Make it available to them. It'll benefit the country. We're
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: going to go to a break.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: When we come back.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: Supermodel Tyra Banks from the US are set up home
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: in Australia.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: We'll tell you why in just a moment.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: Welcome back, we'll Celebrity model Tyra Banks has been living
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: with her family in Australia for a number of months now,
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: and she's finally revealed on American television why.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: She loves Australia so much.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: It's got nothing to do with running away from Donald
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: Trump and everything to do with well, take a listen.
• 46:37
  Speaker 13: I just fell in love with it every time I
• 46:39
  Speaker 13: went back and went back and the three countries that
• 46:42
  Speaker 13: make them that eat the most ice cream, Yes, America, Yes,
• 46:44
  Speaker 13: New Zealand and Australia. So I was like, I'm happy
• 46:47
  Speaker 13: here and they love to eat some ice cream. So
• 46:49
  Speaker 13: are we gonna do this family?
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: And we did.
• 46:51
  Speaker 7: That is amazing.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: Based on that, I'm expecting Joe Biden to become Australia
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: anytime now. Actually watch he does. Is She's got a
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: brand of ice cream. They supply cruise ships and aeroplanes
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: and a lot of it is manufactured in Australia.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: So she's just decided to be close to her business.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: It's got nothing to do with the fact that Australians
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: just have great ice cream.
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: That is what but Albo was talking about when he
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: said future made in Australia ice cream.
• 47:21
  Speaker 6: Manucaps sorry board somebody with an Italian background. I'm highly
• 47:25
  Speaker 6: offended by this chat. If you want good ice cream,
• 47:27
  Speaker 6: you need to go to Italy.
• 47:28
  Speaker 7: Do not come to Australia with.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: The carbon footprint of going to Italy. Do eat ice cream.
• 47:32
  Speaker 6: I by Cadam Brook's all right, can't itself out now? Look,
• 47:36
  Speaker 6: we've got to look at Democratic Representative Alexandria Occasio Cortez.
• 47:41
  Speaker 6: You know the one she said, Look, she's got a
• 47:43
  Speaker 6: mind of her own, that one. But now she's unveiled
• 47:46
  Speaker 6: a new accent straight out of the Kamala Harris playbook.
• 47:49
  Speaker 7: Here she is at a rally.
• 47:51
  Speaker 14: Donald Trump is a criminal who was found guilty of
• 47:56
  Speaker 14: thirty four felony.
• 47:58
  Speaker 7: Counts, Haprah liable for sexual abuse.
• 48:06
  Speaker 14: Of course he's lying, I'm abusing, am manipulating the stock market.
• 48:11
  Speaker 6: Too, too awful?
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: What is that?
• 48:18
  Speaker 7: That is straight from Kamala Harris.
• 48:20
  Speaker 6: She's clearly spent too much time with the words salad
• 48:22
  Speaker 6: queen herself.
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: Help me out, though, which accent is she trying to emulate?
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: Exactly the mixtures?
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: Maybe she's in a crowd of people who don't know
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: how to talk properly. Are the people's speech impediments?
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: And I mean, we laugh about AOC all the time
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: because she sees some pretty wacky stuff. But I've been
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: really worried recently because Bernie Sanders is putting her out
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: there as though she's sort of the successor to him.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: And if she's boring massive crowd.
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: If she ever gets anywhere near the White House, America
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: is going to hell in a handbasket. I am seriously
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: worried about where the Dems are going to go because
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: they may well think she's an outsider, a bit like Trumps,
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: and she's the answer.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: I predict you will get nowhere.
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: Hope.
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: So a lot more faith in the people of America.
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: Stick around is coming up. It's the readA Penney Show.
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  Speaker 2: Good Night,