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Get Off the Fence: Leadership, Climate, and the Choices We Avoid with Charlie Sheppard

Charlie Sheppard is a professor of leadership, founder of World Bridge University, and biotech cofounder working on next-generation cancer therapies. He's the author of Get Off the Fence: You Matter More Than You Realize and the bestselling Save Your Drama for Your Mama, and he's known for creating the distinction between the reactive Drama Triangle and his Leadership Triangle framework.

In this episode, Charlie explains why climate change became the issue that challenged him more than any other, what systems thinking actually means and why it matters for understanding complex crises, and how…

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