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ITB: So Many Different Eagles Tight Ends, How Do They All Fit? · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Inside the Birds is back. What's going on?
• 0:14
  Speaker 2: Everybody? It's Jeff Mosher and Adam Kaplan.
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: We continue to go through the Eagles depth chart, position
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: by position. We're still in offense and now today in
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  Speaker 1: this podcast, Adam, we get to a very very interesting
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  Speaker 1: position and get to look at the depth at tight end,
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  Speaker 1: which if you go back to our podcast that we
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  Speaker 1: did at the end of the year and talked about
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  Speaker 1: when we did the roster review and what they need
• 0:37
  Speaker 1: to work on, you know, tight end was a position
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  Speaker 1: we talked about not having a lot of bodies, not
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  Speaker 1: having a lot of guys down one year and now
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: you look and it's like, man, there's this thing has
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  Speaker 1: got to work itself out, work itself out some way
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  Speaker 1: because there's a lot of bodies.
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  Speaker 2: Now, yeah, that's the as we give you intell and
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  Speaker 2: what we know. We don't just do depth charts. We
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  Speaker 2: explain to you what it's going to look like, what
• 0:58
  Speaker 2: they think, where it's going, where it's headed. And on
• 1:02
  Speaker 2: your point about the depth, I mean, they have so
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  Speaker 2: many players that brings something different to the table. They've
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  Speaker 2: got f tight ends, athletic tight ends, they've got inline
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  Speaker 2: tight ends. They have guys who can block. They have
• 1:14
  Speaker 2: guys who need to learn how to block better. They
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  Speaker 2: also could be used better and better coaching, hopefully than
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  Speaker 2: they got last year. We outlined it by tape study.
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  Speaker 2: There's there's a lot of mistakes that were made last
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  Speaker 2: year with the stat with the with the tight ends,
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  Speaker 2: and we're expecting to be better.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Ryan Mahaffy's a new tit Ands coach who's a run
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  Speaker 2: game coordinator who's tasked with developing Eli Stowers, kim Lot too,
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  Speaker 2: di Quon Wright who people are excited about, Stone Smart,
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  Speaker 2: who they gave decent guarantee money to. E J. Jenkins
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  Speaker 2: who's been in for a number of years. Is this
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  Speaker 2: is his third year with the Eagles, so yeah. And
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  Speaker 2: Calcutar obviously he's a holdovers back on a one year deal.
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  Speaker 2: And Codallas Gotter takes his game to another level. Well
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  Speaker 2: he had he had a touchdown breakout season, if you will.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, to move the four. They've got eight. They
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  Speaker 2: actually technically at one point at nine because they cut
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  Speaker 2: you heam Belt at the same time as actually after
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  Speaker 2: they drafted like stours still eight and again they've got
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  Speaker 2: a lot of things they could do, which we're going
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  Speaker 2: to get into. It gives you a lot of optionality
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  Speaker 2: with this position.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, So there's like there's a three pronged
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  Speaker 1: challenge here that I see for the Eagles. One is
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  Speaker 1: just figuring out and identifying which guys are going to
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  Speaker 1: work in which packages, right, because as you just mentioned,
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  Speaker 1: these guys are sort of all specialists in one or
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  Speaker 1: two areas. Dallas Goddard is probably I mean, I think
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  Speaker 1: Dallas Goddard, if he can block a little better than
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  Speaker 1: last year, is really your only guy that you're really
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  Speaker 1: confident in who can catch the ball really well and
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  Speaker 1: block well. If he gets back to that level last year,
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  Speaker 1: we'll have to see. People told us who watched his
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  Speaker 1: tape that is blocking fell off. I mean Greg Cosel
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  Speaker 1: pointed out a few times. I have no idea if
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  Speaker 1: that's because he was on a one year deal, trying
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  Speaker 1: to presume. We don't know, but he didn't block the
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  Speaker 1: same way, right. But everybody else is either kind of
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  Speaker 1: like you mentioned, a pass catching tight end or a
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  Speaker 1: blocking more tight end. So they have to figure that
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  Speaker 1: the personnel out, then the personnel to the scheme that
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  Speaker 1: they want to run with this new offense, because we
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  Speaker 1: know they want to be tight end centric and use
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  Speaker 1: tight ends a lot of twelve personnel.
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  Speaker 2: And then the third.
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  Speaker 1: Thing, Adam, how many of these tight ends can realistically
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  Speaker 1: make the fifty three If you're going to wind up
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  Speaker 1: keeping four quarterbacks eleven offensive linemen. We talked about wide receivers,
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  Speaker 1: you may go six deep there. Because these guys are
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  Speaker 1: limited in certain ways. I think that there might be
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  Speaker 1: a ways to get these some of them on the
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  Speaker 1: practice squad and then use them until you have to
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  Speaker 1: sign them because you have too many numbers here and
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  Speaker 1: it's got to work itself out. And again, keeping even
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  Speaker 1: more than three might be a challenge from a fifty
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  Speaker 1: three man roster standpoint.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And again in terms of eleven versus twelve personnel,
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  Speaker 2: this is where I was going. They have the ability
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  Speaker 2: to be a major eleven personnel team if they choose to.
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  Speaker 2: With Smith with Lemon, who's got to play. He's a
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  Speaker 2: first round pick, he must play. He's ready, he's playing.
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  Speaker 2: He's a starter. Smith and Lemon are your starters. When
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  Speaker 2: they go eleven. Wix comes in, he's your ex, Lemon's inside,
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  Speaker 2: and Smith is the Z. And then you have Hollywood
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  Speaker 2: Brown when you go eleven It could also go ten
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  Speaker 2: personnel if they'd like to when they're going to be twelve.
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  Speaker 2: This is where this is the process of this show.
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  Speaker 2: This is where it gets interesting. God, it could be
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  Speaker 2: used as a number of You could play with the exposition.
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  Speaker 2: He could play in line as the why Stours could
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  Speaker 2: be the move of the F position. Kakata could be
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  Speaker 2: the F. He better sure as hell better not be
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  Speaker 2: the Y like they tried last year. That was a
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  Speaker 2: terrible mistake. Asking him to block in line was just ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: Johnny Munt was signed specifically to be the Y or
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  Speaker 2: at least see a lot when he plays to be
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  Speaker 2: the Y, like got it be the F lot Too's
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  Speaker 2: got a long shot. But when you sum up this
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  Speaker 2: position here, the guys are most like, well, you know,
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  Speaker 2: three guys are going to be in the roster, got it?
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  Speaker 2: And stours are locks? Obviously yes, if he could still move,
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  Speaker 2: is going to be on the roster. On your point,
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  Speaker 2: are they going to keep four? Well, to me, it
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  Speaker 2: comes down with calcu Terr. Who's going to make His
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  Speaker 2: total cash is two million. They guaranteed seven hundred thousand.
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  Speaker 2: That's not enough to keep him on the roster if
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't perform, or a guy like de Kwon Wright
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  Speaker 2: who's got a lot in his body, and Stone Smart,
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  Speaker 2: who they gave two hundred and twenty five they guaranteed
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  Speaker 2: the season. We mentioned lat too or e. J. Jenkins
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  Speaker 2: is a major long shot. He's been given chance after chance.
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  Speaker 2: He'sn't be able to make it. And to finish this
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  Speaker 2: part off, it's how you summed it up. They have
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  Speaker 2: so many tough roster decisions. You can't keep everybody right.
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  Speaker 2: I was just doing a quick one throw. I spent
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  Speaker 2: ten minutes the other day. I couldn't get past sixty.
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  Speaker 2: I could not get under sixty players.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was really tough. I did the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: And in fact, so that got me thinking because the
• 6:01
  Speaker 1: Eagles are very creative right with how they use their
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  Speaker 1: entire sixty nine. They say it's not just a fifty three, sure,
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  Speaker 1: and how they've used the practice squad to use players
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  Speaker 1: that will be usable for them. But you would have
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  Speaker 1: thought originally they make the fifty three. I feel like
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  Speaker 1: Johnny Munt qualifies as somebody that could be probably you
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  Speaker 1: could probably bring back on the practice squad. You have
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  Speaker 1: to remember he was cut by the Jag, so he
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  Speaker 1: was already out there the ego signed him. I think
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles want to use him. He can block so well.
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  Speaker 2: I know they don't. They know you don't have they
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  Speaker 2: want they.
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  Speaker 1: Don't want to use him, right, The question is do
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  Speaker 1: they need him to occupy a fifty three if another
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  Speaker 1: third tight end? You're right that Stours and God are locks. Right,
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  Speaker 1: if you have development that you like in this offense
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  Speaker 1: from Cam Law too, and who's also a good special teamer, right,
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  Speaker 1: or if Stone Smart just gives you something that you're
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  Speaker 1: really like, does that mean that opens up the door
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  Speaker 1: for one of those guys and then mont you sneak
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  Speaker 1: onto the practice squad. I think that's something we'll have
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  Speaker 1: to evaluate as training camp goes. You're right to me,
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  Speaker 1: those are the three. Those are the only three right
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  Speaker 1: now that you could say are definitely on the fifty three.
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  Speaker 1: But if there's someone who steps up here that he
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  Speaker 1: goes like even the explosive kid that we talked about
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  Speaker 1: in our rookie free agent intel pod Dequon right, right, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: if you wind up he would have had an injury,
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  Speaker 1: he would have been drafted. If he winds up showing
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  Speaker 1: them something this training camp like Darius Cooper did last
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  Speaker 1: training camp, and you don't want to get rid of
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  Speaker 1: this guy. That makes a guy like Munt to me
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of a question mark as to whether
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  Speaker 1: you feel the need to keep him on your initial
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  Speaker 1: fifty three.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because let's just say rights blown up in training camp.
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  Speaker 2: But then the clubs get to see it on the
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  Speaker 2: preseason tape. How he's not gonna want he's not gonna
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  Speaker 2: want to put him for a waivers I understand most
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  Speaker 2: players don't who are cut at the fifty three don't
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  Speaker 2: get claimed. There's only usually like twenty players will get claimed,
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  Speaker 2: if not less. But he's a very interesting player. Man.
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  Speaker 2: He he had draftable grades from a lot of clubs,
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  Speaker 2: and he's got an NFL type body. He's as you
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  Speaker 2: said on that show, he's got a show. He can block.
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  Speaker 2: Like that's not just because you can run and catch
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  Speaker 2: just just make you an NFL player. You got to
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  Speaker 2: do everything. They have a real numbers problem. Like they
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  Speaker 2: have a numbers problem. And other than mont playing what
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  Speaker 2: we we we've dubbed for nine years called the roster tago.
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  Speaker 2: When you you figure out a way to mutilate the
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  Speaker 2: practice squad because now veterans since COVID are allowed on there.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you the sixty nine man roster is fifty
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  Speaker 2: three plus sixteen. Other than other than other than Mont,
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  Speaker 2: you have to look at other positions. You're not gonna
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  Speaker 2: do it with Fred Johnson because he's the sixth lineman.
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  Speaker 2: He can't. You can't do that. By the way, you
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  Speaker 2: could deal with grand Koku Terra, he's vested. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 2: can do that. Yeah. And Howie's relationship with agents is key.
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  Speaker 2: He's got mostly very good relationships because he's a deal maker.
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  Speaker 2: People like dealing with Howie, you know, yep. But it's
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  Speaker 2: this matters man relationship with agents, matters that stuff very important.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, I mean to be honest as we sit here today,
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  Speaker 1: I have a difficult time seeing a path to the
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  Speaker 1: fifty three for Calcata because a he's not a very
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  Speaker 1: good blocker. They have pass catching tight ends now and
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  Speaker 1: stours and god it of course, and special teams plays
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  Speaker 1: a big factor if you're the number three tight end.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, I was going to ask you this. In
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  Speaker 1: my estimation, I would say cam Latu is the biggest
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  Speaker 1: threat to Mont to be the number three tight end
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  Speaker 1: because he can block at Alabama.
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  Speaker 2: He called.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we've talked to Greg Cosel. Greg Coso liked
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  Speaker 1: his past catching ability At Alabama, he was a tight end.
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  Speaker 1: They converted him to fullback so last year, so you
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  Speaker 1: know he can block a little bit. We've seen it.
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  Speaker 1: We saw him at Not We we we were a
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  Speaker 1: little bit curious as to why he was not used
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  Speaker 1: more and they were force feeding cal Kuata in line
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  Speaker 1: at times and it just wasn't working. And he plays
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  Speaker 1: special teams. So I think that there's some good potential
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  Speaker 1: here for Cam lat too, who went, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: came over from San Francisco when they claimed off waivers,
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  Speaker 1: so he's played in a similar style of offensive scheme.
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  Speaker 2: Also, yeah, Lots is an interesting player, man. He remember
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  Speaker 2: he changed his number to thirty six, which kind of
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  Speaker 2: gave us a hint. And then you saw he was
• 10:15
  Speaker 2: sort of like an offset tight en or fullback and
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  Speaker 2: they would ask him to make these crossblocks. We put
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  Speaker 2: it on inside the tape of Greco Sell if you
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  Speaker 2: want to find it on YouTube, folks, you could find it.
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  Speaker 2: We couldn't believe it were just just like what do
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  Speaker 2: they wasn't just him? They asked Kaka Terry to do it.
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  Speaker 2: If you're watching this on YouTube, they line up on
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  Speaker 2: the right side then ask him to cross formation and
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  Speaker 2: block on the other side. And it was just too difficult.
• 10:41
  Speaker 2: It's just too difficult. And you're hoping now with Ryan Mahaffey,
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: you know he sees this. Yeah. It Actually he was
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  Speaker 2: lots who was not claimed off waivers from He actually
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: went from the Niners to the Browns, right, and then
• 10:56
  Speaker 2: he got signed as a street free agent in January
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  Speaker 2: of twenty five and then he goes cut him and
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  Speaker 2: brought him to their p He didn't make Initially, he
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  Speaker 2: was on the practice squad on and off a little bit, right,
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  Speaker 2: and then he made it. He was since week four.
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  Speaker 2: He was actually on the practice squad. He was off
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  Speaker 2: their practice squad on their fifty three. And there's something there.
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  Speaker 2: Greg said it when he watched his tape at at Alabama,
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  Speaker 2: he saw stuff that wasn't just blocker related. He saw
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  Speaker 2: some athleticism. How the guy's a third round pick. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: he should have been, but he was a third round pick.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, yep, No, there's there's it's funny. I had it
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  Speaker 1: in my head and you already said it. The old
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  Speaker 1: Greg co cell expression. There's something there in that body,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and there is there's talent, and we saw
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  Speaker 1: It's not like we didn't even see it. We saw
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  Speaker 1: it last year. At times. He can block, he can
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  Speaker 1: catch the ball a little bit, he can, he's versatile,
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  Speaker 1: he can. Yeah, he's a good athlete. Like you can
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  Speaker 1: use this guy. So why they didn't is beyond me.
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  Speaker 1: One thing also I wanted to bring up when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to Stours, a guy who is obviously not a
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  Speaker 1: very good blocker, or same thing with Calcatara. I was
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: reading it and to Checko's story on Eli Stowers, he
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: caught up with Vanderbilt's tight ends coach, a really good
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  Speaker 1: story by the way on Inside the Birds dot Com.
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  Speaker 1: And this coach made a point in saying, if you
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: do run a certain type of offense, which we expect
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  Speaker 1: Eagles to do, where you're running a lot more wide
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  Speaker 1: zone and you put up tight end on the back
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  Speaker 1: side of the play as opposed to the front side,
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  Speaker 1: you know, away from the play side, and just have
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  Speaker 1: him reaching, that's not a very difficult assignment. And that's
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  Speaker 1: something they did with Stours when they wanted to be
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  Speaker 1: less telegraphed, like obviously if you put him out as
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  Speaker 1: a reflex tight end, he just draws the coverage and
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  Speaker 1: you know he's really a receiver. But you can line
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  Speaker 1: him up in line on the backside of a play
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  Speaker 1: and he can hold his own as the line moves
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  Speaker 1: horizontally in that fashion. In fact, the guy said he's
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  Speaker 1: he's We already know he's big, he's strong, he's a
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  Speaker 1: good athlete, that he's a willing and capable blocker and
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: wants to become a better blocker. So you've got you
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: said this perfectly at this top top of the show.
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  Speaker 1: This is on Ryan mahaffey to show that you can
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  Speaker 1: develop tight ends not only as guys who can catch
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  Speaker 1: the pass and do what they do, but blocking in line.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes Titans used to go work out with Stoutlin if
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  Speaker 1: you remember when he was here, to get that kind
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  Speaker 1: of experience.
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  Speaker 2: I think E. J.
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  Speaker 1: Jenkins said he used to work with Stoutlin. He's another
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  Speaker 1: guy who's worked on his blocking. He's a big guy
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  Speaker 1: ever since he got here. We'll see if that happens.
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  Speaker 1: But it's up to Ryan mhffory to get these guys
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  Speaker 1: ready to go with technique standpoint.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is big. We talked about the other the
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  Speaker 2: receiver show, Aaron Moorehead's got a big job on his
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  Speaker 2: hands because the new, brand new scheme, Hylo Brown, Mackay Lemon,
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  Speaker 2: Don Tavian Wicks, Johnny Wilson when he comes back, Elijah Moore,
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  Speaker 2: I've got a lot of new players in that position.
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  Speaker 2: Cool thing about this though, because Howie has added so
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  Speaker 2: much talent, Brown, Wicks, Lemon, Garius Cooper returns great stories
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  Speaker 2: on Drefter, free agent Mont stours Day, Kwon Wright, Stone
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  Speaker 2: Smart could run a little bit. They could now depending
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  Speaker 2: on how they perform. They have an ability the ability
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  Speaker 2: to do whatever they want in personnel groupings. They could
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  Speaker 2: be heavy eleven, they could be heavy twelve. And they
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  Speaker 2: also can This is important situationally versus the opponent. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: what does that opponent weekend? We can do this, we
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  Speaker 2: can exploit this. If they're the very week at nickel
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  Speaker 2: heavy eleven. If they're really bad at linebacker and coverage,
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  Speaker 2: let's go more twelve. Okay, if they don't stop, if
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  Speaker 2: they're bad against the run, let's go heavy twelve. They
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  Speaker 2: they've really not been able to do that, right, they
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  Speaker 2: might have that optionality. They have it. No I agree.
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  Speaker 2: I agree this.
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  Speaker 1: There's too many, too many options, like we said with
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: wide receiver, and too many guys can do different things
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  Speaker 1: to be stale offensively. All right, I want to end
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  Speaker 1: it on this. You had pretty good intel when he
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: first came over, when the Eagles first signed him. We
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: did the pod on some of the free agent guys
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  Speaker 1: on Stone Smart he came over from the Jets. I
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: want you to really go through that, because of all
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: the signings, that's the one where I was always like,
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: what was the priority there or what what was the vision.
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  Speaker 2: For Stone Smart? He would be a special team tight end.
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  Speaker 2: He's six four, two thirty. They guarantee two hundred and
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  Speaker 2: twenty five thousand, which is basically what it is is
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  Speaker 2: if he gets waived and he doesn't get claimed, he'll
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: go to the practice squad and they're gonna be They
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: would essentially guarantee his practice squad contract for the season. Yeah,
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: it's one year at one point three million. But there's
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  Speaker 2: something there with him. There's was he a Joe Douglas guy?
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: Did Joe Douglas bring him to the Jets?
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  Speaker 2: First? Let me I'll look at that. Yeah, I'm pretty
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: certain it was a Joe Douglas guy. Yeah, it was yes,
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  Speaker 2: he ye, okay, he was with Joe Douglas briefly. He
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: was signed in March of twenty five. Mm hmmmm. He
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: was with the Chargers Chargers before that. Get you know,
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: he may not you know what he may have been
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: brief or not at all. Joe might have been removed
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: before that. Yeah, but he's from Old Dominion, not known
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: as a as a football school. But he moves well,
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: he's a smaller guy. You he's another guy you have
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: to have a plan for. But I find it fascinating
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: that they saw something off tape because he's smaller. But
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: it is nice. And now do they know they're gonna
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: they didn't know then they were gonna draft Stours, who's longer,
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: more athletic and explosive. But he's another move tight end.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: They've got a they've got a number of guys, as
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: we said at the top here that could do different things,
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: and you like that. They've got in line tight ends,
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: y tight ends. They've got a bunch of f tight
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: ends or removed tight ends, and they've got they've got
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: guys like god or who could do a number of things.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: So that this I'm kind of fascinating. But you know what,
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: and everybody that we've spoken to it spoke very highly
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: of Sharmannian. You don't know until you get there's a
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: thing coaching. Everybody could speak right about a coach, but
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: until he's called a play, you really don't know. He
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: can he can he reach the players? Can he can?
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: Can he does? He have good enough command to say, guys,
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: this is what we're doing. We've got to do this.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: And a lot of these coaches are new to the
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: still a lot of questions, but a lot of upside
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: with this thing.
• 17:03
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• 18:30
  Speaker 1: So that's a pretty good look, a very very in
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: depth look. Until laden look at this tight end position
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: for the Eagles, probably as interesting and as fascinating as
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: it's been in in quite a long time. A lot
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: of different guys, and I think we always talk about
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: training camp jobs are decided there's there might be some
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: actual there will be some actual true competition here throughout
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: the spring camps and training camp at this position, and
• 18:54
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