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Elon Musk’s Secret Plan: Send Robots to Mars and Create a Master Race? · Elon Musk Podcast

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  Peter Thiel thinks Elon Musk has just stopped the idea of this
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  new civilization because the woke mind virus is going to
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  follow him and his followers to the surface of Mars.
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  We have a clip of Peter Thiel who is an interesting person.
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  He's one of the Co founders of PayPal, has known Elon Musk for
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  a very long time and he is part of Palantir.
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  Now. Palantir makes software.
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  It's like AI software and in their homepage AI powered
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  automation for every decision. What they don't show on the
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  homepage is that they have AI powered war weapons and they use
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  AI to command the battlefield. But in this clip by Interesting
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  Times MIT, Peter explained something about Elon that not a
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  lot of people know about, only people close to him.
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  And I'm going to paraphrase it, but then we going to listen to
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  him in a second basically saying that Elon Musk is not as
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  interested as it used to be to send people to Mars.
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  And there's a reason for that. And that reason is AI.
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  Elon back in 2024, I had the seasteading version with Elon
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  where I said Trump doesn't win, I want to just leave the
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  country. We've heard that from a lot of
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  people. If somebody doesn't win the
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  election, I'm going to leave. OK, So Peter Thiel just wanted
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  to leave. But this is where it starts
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  getting really interesting. And then Elon said, there's
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  nowhere to go, There's nowhere to go.
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  This is the only. And then you always think of the
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  right arguments to make later. And it was about two hours after
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  we had dinner and I was home that I thought of, wow, Elon,
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  you don't believe in going to Mars anymore?
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  OK. So this is interesting with Elon
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  talk to Peter. During that conversation, Peter
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  was like, I just don't want to be in America anymore if
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  somebody else wins, if Trump doesn't win, I don't want to be
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  on the soil anymore. I don't want to be part of this
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  country. I want to move on and I want to
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  do something else with my life someplace else.
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  But Elon, smart dude said, but Peter, this is the best place to
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  be to do what you want to do. Peter later on thought, hey,
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  maybe that means that Elon doesn't want to leave Earth,
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  doesn't want people to go to Mars, so let's listen in.
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  20/24/2024 is the year where Elon stopped believing in Mars.
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  Not as a as a silly science tech project, but.
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  A silly science tech project He calls Starbase and Starship A
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  silly science tech project. OK.
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  Hey, Peter Tail. There's a political project.
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  Mars was supposed to be a political project, was building
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  an alternative. And in 2024, Elon came believe
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  that if you went to Mars, you know the socialist U.S.
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  government, the woke, it would follow you to Mars.
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  There's a lot to unpack there. So everybody thought Elon Musk
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  was building Starship to send humanity to Mars, right?
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  So we could explore science. Peter Thiel said it's a silly
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  science experiment, which is a horrible thing to say about this
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  because one, it's not silly. It's not just a little science
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  project that you do for a presentation in your grade
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  school. This is building the world's
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  most powerful rocket and also the light of humanity, as Elon
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  says, to keep that from being extinguished if you make people
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  a multi planetary species. So when Elon started Starship
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  development 10 years ago or so, the idea was just to send
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  something that's grown on Earth to the surface of Mars.
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  Let it grow, let it bloom. It evolved into, hey, we can
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  make this thing big enough that we can send people to Mars.
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  We can send cargo, we can send hundreds of tons of cargo to
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  Mars, where we could build a civilization on Mars.
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  People could build habitats, people could build solar panels
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  there. They could use that as a jump
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  off spot to the next planet so we could explore more and go
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  further into the solar system, Peter Thiel says.
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  It wasn't about science, it was about politics.
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  It was about creating a new society.
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  Now, if you have to build a new society on another planet, you
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  have to have followers. Elon Musk has millions of
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  followers on X. He has millions of people that
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  love him. He has millions of people that
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  absolutely despise the guy because of all of his actions in
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  the past and what he continues to do.
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  So he's very divisive. People might not want to follow
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  this guy. So what does Elon do?
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  He's making the Boring Company, Neuralink.
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  He has Tesla, which produces batteries and also electric
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  vehicles, solar as well. And also Tesla makes robots.
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  So he has the Rockets, he has the transportation when you get
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  there, so you can build something to build the things
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  when you get to Mars. And you also have mining on
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  Mars. So to the Boring Company, you
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  can mine underneath Mars, so you can send people under there so
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  they don't get irradiated and die.
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  So the habitats on the surface of Mars are going to have to be
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  very, very strong. And also they cannot let
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  radiation in. So just dig a hole.
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  Instead of living above Mars, you can live underneath Mars.
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  So that's Boring Company. And then we have the Tesla
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  robots, we have Optimus. I think Elon Musk is building
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  Optimus robots to build Mars because you're going to need to
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  be able to terraform Mars over hundreds, thousands, 100,000
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  years. Humans don't live that long,
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  right? We all live around 70 to 100
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  years somewhere around there. But these robots can last
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  forever. And the reason why he's building
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  solar is because he needs to charge the robots he needs,
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  because you can't use a internal combustion engine on Mars.
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  There's no fuel, so you have to have electric vehicles.
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  And those electric vehicles need to be charged.
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  So you make Solar Boring Company eventually will be all electric
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  too. So when they first start boring
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  holes in the surface of Mars, that's when we know that people
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  will be going to Mars. But before the people go, the
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  robots will go. And inside those robots brains,
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  there will be an AI. Elon Musk said or Peter Thiel
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  says that Elon doesn't want the woke mind virus as they say.
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  Or just other ideas that aren't yours.
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  I don't like when people villainize the way that other
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  people think, you know, because people don't think like the way
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  that Iman thinks. He thinks It's a woke mind
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  virus. Or it's a really catchy thing to
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  say, right? You can say, oh, this guy has a
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  mind virus, there's some sort of demon or something, but who
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  cares? Somebody thinks differently than
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  you. What do you like?
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  You're just a dummy. Come on, get over it, get over
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  yourself, get over your ego and other way around to like
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  somebody thinks differently from people who are woke, then they
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  think that person's a demon or whatever.
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  Also get over yourself, it's your ego.
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  Peter Thiel thinks Elon Musk has just stopped the idea of this
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  new civilization because the woke mind virus is going to
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  follow him and his followers to the surface of Mars.
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  So let's listen a little bit more.
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  He explains it a little bit more here, but we have to keep in
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  context what's going on here. Then this is what's going
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  through Peter's head and Elon's head because Elon made this
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  master plan, right? To make the master the master
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  plan so people can start living on the surface of Mars.
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  Or a population. Maybe not people.
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  A population that Elon controls with AI can live on the surface
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  of Mars. Optimist robots with XAI brains
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  it. Was the Demis meeting with Elon
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  that we miss? Deep mind, this is an AI.
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  This was the rough. Conversation was Demis tells
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  Elon. I'm working on the most
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  important project in the world. I'm building a superhuman AI
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  and. So they they're building AI that
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  basically trying to make an AI better than humans.
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  And Elon responds to demos. I'm working on the most
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  important project in the world. I am a turning us into
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  interplanetary species. And then Demos said my AI will
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  be able to follow you to Mars. Oh, and there you go.
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  So no matter where you go in the solar system, people will have
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  different ideas than you. The lesson here isn't that AI is
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  evil, or Elon is evil, or Peter Thiel is evil.
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  The lesson here is there's always going to be ideas that
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  are different than yours, and you can't escape them by going
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  to Mars, Elon. You can't escape them by
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  building a master civilization on the surface of Mars.
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  The tunnels in Mars, of course, could be used to store the
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  optimist robots, and you're building this master
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  civilization of robots on the surface of Mars that you're
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  shipping them there, the optimist robots.
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  And I know this is all speculation because it hasn't
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  been like reported by Elon. He hasn't said anything about it
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  on any platform. But if you think a little bit
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  harder, you can send two to maybe 6 people on a Starship at
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  a time, and those people will just kind of hang out.
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  They'll do science experiments, they'll journey out a little
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  bit. But the radiation is real, a
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  real trouble. That's a real problem that's
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  going to kill people on Mars. Why wouldn't you send hundreds
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  or a million robots to Mars? Then you have another
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  civilization that isn't humanity and you control them with you
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  program them to do whatever you want.
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  You give them ideas through AI. So if he can make a superhuman
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  AI, and that's what he's planning to do, he wants to make
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  XAI smarter than humans, put those brains, shrink that down,
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  or have a mother ship that has data warehouses in the Mars
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  orbit. Then of course, you beam that
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  down, do software upgrades, firmware upgrades to those
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  robots, and then you can make them do whatever you want.
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  You can see with Grok, too. Grok is starting to say some
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  really horrible things sometimes think for themselves, do some
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  things that we wouldn't want. If you could target that with
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  just those robots. Hey, these robots are going to
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  do these specific tasks and let's build them.
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  Let's build them better every day.
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  Let's keep upgrading them. And how do you do that?
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  You just get people away from it.
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  You don't send the people to Mars.
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  You send the robots to Mars. People were going to fight you.
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  Robots won't. And that's what Elon wants.
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  He wants things that he can control so he can get his
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  mission done, which is to build a civilization on another
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  planet. Because he's not going to be
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  able to do it here. People would fight him.
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  Look what happened to the Tesla showrooms.
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  People fought Elon just on an ideology, right?
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  And if the ideology was that him and Trump are taking away, and
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  it's also his actions too, they're not just not ideology,
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  but the idea of Elon Musk is what a lot of people fought
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  against. And if he were to not have that
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  blowback from people and he could control every single being
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  that's on Mars, I think that's what he's going for.
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  I want to know what you think about this.
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  Do you think Elon is going for complete control?
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  He's a control freak. He said it before in interviews
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  that he doesn't like people that are empathetic or think for
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  other people or feel for the people.
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  He just wants you to be able to do the job and that's it.
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  If you are empathetic, he's not going to hire you or he'll fire
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  you. That's it.
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  Let me know what you think in the comments down below, if you
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  think Elon Musk is right here or if you think this is some sci-fi
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  fantasy that he's trying to build out because he read too
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  many science fiction books as a kid.
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  But he's an entrepreneur, so he has the money now to do it.
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  All right, take care everybody. I'll see you tomorrow.