Latest / Moser, Lombardi and Kane / 4-29-26 Hour 1 - Hate-watching Stars vs Wild/Game 6 preview, NBA anti-tanking rules/Bo Nix ankle clean-up
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- 0:00Speaker 1: This is Moser, Lombardy and Kane on demand.
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- 0:18Speaker 3: No game last night, no game tonight, but I was
- 0:22Speaker 3: interested in. I was doing my own scouting most last
- 0:27Speaker 3: night as I watched Dallas in Minnesota. By the way
- 0:29Speaker 3: I'm scouting, I didn't expect this.
- 0:31Speaker 2: I know, I know, vic. I didn't expect this, sitting
- 0:35Speaker 2: around with my teeth in my mouth right cleaning the
- 0:38Speaker 2: fish tank. Although I didn't do that last night. I
- 0:41Speaker 2: should have cleaned the fish tank. I'll clean the fish
- 0:43Speaker 2: tank today. But you're waiting, waiting for the Nuggets to
- 0:47Speaker 2: play again, have to find out their opponent.
- 0:49Speaker 3: It was night, Yeah, I.
- 0:51Speaker 2: Like, I want to get it on every night with something.
- 0:55Speaker 3: And now it's two days off in a row. Now
- 0:58Speaker 3: I'm watching Dallas minute soda. And here's what's really surprising.
- 1:04Speaker 3: I did not expect, first of all, two of the
- 1:07Speaker 3: first three games in Dallas's barn, for Minnesota to go
- 1:10Speaker 3: in there and work them and make the mistake. I
- 1:13Speaker 3: know the game was close last night score wise, Minnesota
- 1:16Speaker 3: was dominating like they were up. What nineteen to eight
- 1:19Speaker 3: on shots on goal at one point, like, yeah, five
- 1:22Speaker 3: on five was all Minnesota, but when you give Dallas
- 1:27Speaker 3: the extra guy, Dallas can make that close in a hurry.
- 1:31Speaker 2: It's really I don't even know how to describe it.
- 1:34Speaker 2: It's it's a combination of two things, Vic Brett. It's
- 1:37Speaker 2: a combination of Minnesota's playing good hockey, but Dallas has
- 1:42Speaker 2: an even strength malfunction. Yeah. Now, if you want to
- 1:48Speaker 2: call them power play merchants, call the Stars power play merchants.
- 1:51Speaker 2: But that's what they are totally.
- 1:54Speaker 1: Are you ready to call it a series?
- 1:56Speaker 2: Not yet, because Minnesota's got to stay out of the
- 2:01Speaker 2: But all but three of Dallas's goals in this entire
- 2:05Speaker 2: series have been on the power play. And is it
- 2:09Speaker 2: wrong for me?
- 2:10Speaker 3: Like this is this is what's so bizarre to say
- 2:12Speaker 3: out loud. So here's the translation. Minnesota has been the
- 2:17Speaker 3: much better team in this series, but Dallas has survived
- 2:21Speaker 3: on their power play. And that sounds a lot like
- 2:25Speaker 3: what was said a year ago.
- 2:28Speaker 2: With the Aves.
- 2:30Speaker 3: The Avs have been the much better team in the series,
- 2:32Speaker 3: but when the Avs went to the box, Dallas made
- 2:34Speaker 3: them pay and then you lost in seven games. And
- 2:37Speaker 3: so with that information, despite the fact that Minnesota is
- 2:41Speaker 3: playing better hockey, I'd rather face Minnesota than Dallas just
- 2:45Speaker 3: because I don't want to do that again. I don't
- 2:47Speaker 3: want to play that game. Is that wrong?
- 2:50Speaker 2: The Dallas Stars this season scored seventy one power play
- 2:54Speaker 2: goals this season. Contrast that with the Avalanche, who scored
- 3:01Speaker 2: But abup bup bu bup buh. This is me looking
- 3:04Speaker 2: it up forty five cheez, you see what you see
- 3:09Speaker 2: what I'm getting out of me? Yeah? That and listen
- 3:11Speaker 2: to give them credit because they're really good at it,
- 3:15Speaker 2: but they've got to malfunction five on five and they
- 3:17Speaker 2: have all season long. They had a great year in
- 3:19Speaker 2: terms of their record, where they finished number two inside
- 3:24Speaker 2: the Dang Division, the hardest division in hockey right now.
- 3:28Speaker 2: But if they'd score on the power play, they ain't scored.
- 3:32Speaker 3: I don't. I don't want that. I just don't because
- 3:36Speaker 3: I've seen that happen already. And there's just something that
- 3:39Speaker 3: is going to kill me. If you play better for
- 3:42Speaker 3: forty three minutes, but then there's gonna be a couple
- 3:45Speaker 3: of power plays mixed in that. Just that's how you
- 3:47Speaker 3: get burned.
- 3:48Speaker 1: I can't do any does any part of you mos
- 3:51Speaker 1: fear the momentum the youth of Minnesota.
- 3:56Speaker 2: I don't know that I fear it. They've got some
- 3:58Speaker 2: really good players, I mean old Yeah, Matt Boldie. I
- 4:01Speaker 2: think we saw him in the Olympic. I think you
- 4:03Speaker 2: guys finally yeah, once he had those Olympics the way
- 4:06Speaker 2: you have those Olympics. Yeah, I think a lot of
- 4:08Speaker 2: I think a lot of people probably did you know,
- 4:09Speaker 2: you know he was a good player. You know, he's
- 4:12Speaker 2: a former twelfth overall pick. You know, this guy's you know,
- 4:14Speaker 2: scoring big time goals and he's a big time player
- 4:18Speaker 2: and blah blah blah blah. But then when you saw
- 4:19Speaker 2: him in the Olympic games, you're like, oh, this guy, this
- 4:22Speaker 2: kid's reaching a whole other level.
- 4:23Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 4:24Speaker 2: They've always had Caprice off. Now they they did the
- 4:27Speaker 2: deal in December for Quinn Hughes. We'll see if he
- 4:29Speaker 2: stays there. I don't know that they have enough up
- 4:32Speaker 2: the middle. I just don't think that they do.
- 4:34Speaker 1: Over saying that, but they have enough up the middle
- 4:37Speaker 1: to beat the stars.
- 4:39Speaker 3: Yeah, well you were saying the stars of a five
- 4:42Speaker 3: on five problem, What do you mean?
- 4:45Speaker 2: Well, they just they're they're The problem is they've got
- 4:47Speaker 2: an injured rope Hints. Yeah, and he's their best center theoretically.
- 4:53Speaker 2: What's going on with him? Again? He got injured late
- 4:55Speaker 2: in the season against the Avalanche. Actually, yeah, and he
- 4:59Speaker 2: hasn't played at all.
- 5:01Speaker 1: Is that the one where they they claim that there
- 5:04Speaker 1: was a cheap shot by McKinnon.
- 5:07Speaker 2: Yeah, correct, which there wasn't. But rope Hints helps, he's
- 5:12Speaker 2: up kind of the straw that stirs that middle of
- 5:15Speaker 2: the ice drink for them. So he's been out and
- 5:18Speaker 2: so they've been sort of, you know, patching things in
- 5:22Speaker 2: all year long, and certainly after that game against the Abs,
- 5:27Speaker 2: and then all the way into the postseason, and it's
- 5:30Speaker 2: just not working. It just isn't.
- 5:33Speaker 3: So how about this, what would you prefer? I could
- 5:37Speaker 3: guarantee you that Minnesota wins Game six and they advance,
- 5:42Speaker 3: or that Dallas wins game six and you don't know
- 5:46Speaker 3: who wins game seven.
- 5:47Speaker 2: I'll take Dallas wins game six and you don't know
- 5:49Speaker 2: who wins games.
- 5:50Speaker 1: You want you want that.
- 5:53Speaker 2: Push it real good, d dude, dude, dude, du dude, dude, dude, dude,
- 5:59Speaker 2: push it to push a night, ah, push it, but
- 6:03Speaker 2: push it real good. Come on, no, I love that.
- 6:06Speaker 2: I'm a big Salton pepagan lay.
- 6:08Speaker 1: Tomorrow night in the Twin Cities, it's going to be insane.
- 6:12Speaker 1: There are two game sixes. Two game six is in
- 6:15Speaker 1: which the home team, with games being played at the
- 6:17Speaker 1: same time one in Minneapolis, won in Saint Paul, the
- 6:20Speaker 1: home team has a chance to eliminate the visiting team.
- 6:24Speaker 1: It is going to be insanity in the Twin Cities
- 6:26Speaker 1: tomorrow night.
- 6:28Speaker 3: Let me just say, by the way, I've had this
- 6:29Speaker 3: thought for a long time. I've never said it out loud,
- 6:31Speaker 3: but now that we're in a battle with Minnesota, I
- 6:33Speaker 3: want to say this. Stop calling at Minneapolis St.
- 6:35Speaker 2: Paul.
- 6:36Speaker 3: One place is Minneapolis, the other is Saint Paul. Don't
- 6:38Speaker 3: put them together. It's like a hyphenated last name. I
- 6:41Speaker 3: don't do those. Dallas for one, don't like it. No,
- 6:44Speaker 3: it's Dallas, it's down Tampa Saint Pete. Like you guys,
- 6:49Speaker 3: don't do that for your team names. It's not the
- 6:51Speaker 3: Dallas Fort Worth Cowboys, it's the Dallas Cowboys.
- 6:53Speaker 1: Denver Commerce City. Yeah, that's how it's known nationwide.
- 6:58Speaker 2: How about the law, how about the Los Angeles Angels
- 7:01Speaker 2: of Anaheim, Orange Countyville also stupid or whatever it is. Now,
- 7:06Speaker 2: I don't even know what I's just the La Angels now,
- 7:08Speaker 2: I don't even think there's any They're not in La.
- 7:10Speaker 2: They're in the O c They're in Anaheim. That's not
- 7:13Speaker 2: Los Angeles. You don't get to combine the names of things. Okay,
- 7:16Speaker 2: it's one place where it's the other place.
- 7:19Speaker 1: Yeah, why didn't one of those cities just take over
- 7:21Speaker 1: the other and say we got you. Let's just go
- 7:22Speaker 1: ahead and make it a truce and annex you border
- 7:26Speaker 1: each other? What's going on here?
- 7:28Speaker 2: Hey, hey, we got you. So wait a minute.
- 7:31Speaker 3: They have a Saint Paul fire department in a Minneapolis
- 7:34Speaker 3: fire department.
- 7:35Speaker 2: Well, the cities are not they're not exactly. They don't
- 7:38Speaker 2: sit right next to each I mean, I guess they
- 7:40Speaker 2: do border with Why do they combine the actual cities
- 7:43Speaker 2: themselves are far away. I don't know. They couldn't decide
- 7:48Speaker 2: for their way.
- 7:48Speaker 1: What are you talking about it?
- 7:49Speaker 2: What's like thirty minutes, twenty five minutes.
- 7:52Speaker 1: The whole metropolitan area is connected.
- 7:54Speaker 2: I understand that.
- 7:55Speaker 1: I'm saying thirty minutes.
- 7:57Speaker 2: What I'm saying it's not from downtown Minneapolis is not Aurora.
- 8:01Speaker 2: Who care, It's not Driver nine iron to Saint Paul,
- 8:04Speaker 2: it's further than that. Well, all I know is if
- 8:07Speaker 2: you've never only made the drive eight hundred thousand times
- 8:09Speaker 2: in my life.
- 8:10Speaker 1: If you're a fan of both teams Thursday night, and
- 8:15Speaker 1: let's say you want to attend both games, could you
- 8:18Speaker 1: pull that off?
- 8:19Speaker 2: No, you could not. Impossible to pull it off unless
- 8:22Speaker 2: you have I don't know, one of those star Trek
- 8:26Speaker 2: things where they beam you from joint to joint.
- 8:29Speaker 3: It's a good point from from Flax on the twitch feed.
- 8:31Speaker 2: Flax never has a good point.
- 8:33Speaker 3: Don't say that, Hey, Kansas City, pick one. You know what,
- 8:36Speaker 3: fight each other. Missouri fights Kansas and whoever wins they
- 8:38Speaker 3: get Kansas City.
- 8:40Speaker 1: Well, they're thinking about putting their stage.
- 8:42Speaker 2: They know they are. They're moving to Kansas.
- 8:44Speaker 3: Well, then Kansas wins.
- 8:47Speaker 2: Now that's now, that's the situation.
- 8:49Speaker 3: The balls on Missouri, by the way, to call one
- 8:51Speaker 3: of their cities Kansas City in Missouri.
- 8:53Speaker 2: I know, Jesus, the cones on whoever back in the
- 8:58Speaker 2: day goes you know what, they will be having some
- 9:00Speaker 2: of that even though we're Missouri. Yes, screw you.
- 9:02Speaker 3: You guys ever visit Colorado City, Nebraska?
- 9:05Speaker 1: Is ever visit that very much? It's crazy.
- 9:07Speaker 2: Hey man, I've obviously spent a lot of time there.
- 9:11Speaker 2: Literally they're I mean they're literally next to it. They're
- 9:15Speaker 2: like that. You could take driver nine ie hundred percent.
- 9:18Speaker 2: One thousand percent, Yes, one thousand percent.
- 9:22Speaker 3: We had our conference tournament in college was in Kansas City, Kansas,
- 9:26Speaker 3: and I literally I'm looking at it, going, what are
- 9:28Speaker 3: we doing here?
- 9:29Speaker 2: Just move the border. Let somebody tell me I'm not
- 9:31Speaker 2: I'm not kidding you. Where you could walk across the street.
- 9:34Speaker 2: You're in Missouri, walk across the street. If you're in
- 9:37Speaker 2: Prairie Village. You're essentially in two states at one time.
- 9:39Speaker 2: It's crazy.
- 9:40Speaker 1: As long as you guys are getting into geographical craziness,
- 9:44Speaker 1: have you ever been to the Four Corners where you
- 9:47Speaker 1: can be in four states at the same time?
- 9:49Speaker 2: You know, I never have, but i'd like to be.
- 9:51Speaker 2: I've seen it. I liked I'd like to be.
- 9:53Speaker 1: Let's test, uh, test powder's geography. Name the states involved
- 9:59Speaker 1: in the Four Corners?
- 10:00Speaker 3: Oh my, Colorado to lose New Mexico, yes, yes, come on,
- 10:06Speaker 3: two more, come on, Arizona, Yeah, give Utah yeah, buddy.
- 10:13Speaker 1: Oh, I'm so proud of you right now, zoo See,
- 10:16Speaker 1: we're learning. We're learning every day.
- 10:18Speaker 2: That globe, that globe that I gave him for Christmas,
- 10:22Speaker 2: it's really paying off. Yeah.
- 10:23Speaker 1: Kids driving to school right now with your parents, hate parents,
- 10:26Speaker 1: you owe me.
- 10:27Speaker 2: I'm playing this game. You guys would love it. Download.
- 10:29Speaker 3: It's called map Tap so it just it has a
- 10:33Speaker 3: globe on your phone and it gives you like a
- 10:35Speaker 3: city and a state or a a a city in
- 10:39Speaker 3: a country and you have to tap on on the
- 10:42Speaker 3: globe where you think it is. Oh, and it's like
- 10:45Speaker 3: how close or how far do you get? But the
- 10:47Speaker 3: last one is always like show me Tahiti and you're
- 10:49Speaker 3: like zooming in the Pacific Ocean, like I don't know.
- 10:51Speaker 2: Where this is. Tony Island is See, I don't need
- 10:53Speaker 2: the map tap appy wap. I don't need that.
- 10:57Speaker 1: I would love you. This is the stuff you don't know.
- 11:00Speaker 2: Yeah. If you're gonna say, okay, point out I don't
- 11:04Speaker 2: know someplace in Siberia, Yeah, I'm screwed.
- 11:08Speaker 1: Me and my future son in law have this online
- 11:10Speaker 1: game where it picks a random place in the world
- 11:14Speaker 1: and you have to identify what it is, and I
- 11:17Speaker 1: gotta be fourth, right nownest, he is kicking my ass.
- 11:21Speaker 2: Working in the geography, he is, So you got a
- 11:26Speaker 2: you got a Lakers fan taking you other than I am.
- 11:28Speaker 2: That's crazy.
- 11:30Speaker 1: Well, here's a geography question for you. The base camp
- 11:33Speaker 1: fifty to eighty. The fan zone outside Ballerina.
- 11:36Speaker 3: Which direction is that on a compass relative to Ballerina?
- 11:40Speaker 2: That's south?
- 11:41Speaker 1: Matt tells me. The Minnesota Twins also play at home
- 11:44Speaker 1: on Thursday. Could you do you think anybody could pull
- 11:49Speaker 1: off the triple? The triple chief?
- 11:52Speaker 2: I mean, you'd have to vic, you'd have tough, you'd
- 11:55Speaker 2: have to leave, you'd have to spend just a little
- 11:57Speaker 2: bit of time at day.
- 11:59Speaker 1: Someone's going to do it in Minneapolis.
- 12:01Speaker 3: But you wouldn't watch any game if you tried to
- 12:03Speaker 3: do that, I know.
- 12:03Speaker 1: But you can watch it on your phone. For those
- 12:05Speaker 1: of you listening from Minnesota, I know you still are.
- 12:07Speaker 1: By the way, For those of you listening, do you
- 12:11Speaker 1: know anyone that might attempt to triple?
- 12:14Speaker 2: Should I call for let me get a hold of fullness.
- 12:16Speaker 2: Let's find out.
- 12:18Speaker 3: It would be fun, but it would also like you
- 12:22Speaker 3: weren't watching any game while you're trying to watch all three. Now,
- 12:28Speaker 3: speaking of I want to talk a little bit about
- 12:30Speaker 3: the game tomorrow and how important I think this is,
- 12:32Speaker 3: and I think this could be one of the toughest
- 12:34Speaker 3: games that the Nuggets have played in a long time,
- 12:38Speaker 3: just based upon there is going to be in insane
- 12:43Speaker 3: atmosphere that's inside that building.
- 12:46Speaker 1: It's going to be a blood thirsty atmosphere in Minneapolis.
- 12:50Speaker 3: And we know that the actual players on the tea
- 12:53Speaker 3: Wolves are going to give this everything they have. Because
- 12:56Speaker 3: here's what it feels like to me. It feels like
- 12:59Speaker 3: this is a heavy fight that maybe Minnesota took five
- 13:04Speaker 3: of the first seven rounds, but then the Nuggets got
- 13:07Speaker 3: a couple of knockdowns and I was aided by Anthony
- 13:10Speaker 3: Edwards and Devincenzo being hurt.
- 13:12Speaker 2: But that's the feeling right now.
- 13:14Speaker 3: It's like Minnesota knows they got to go for the
- 13:17Speaker 3: haymaker because if this thing goes the distance and they
- 13:19Speaker 3: go to the judges, they are not winning this fight. Translation,
- 13:23Speaker 3: this goes seven games, you aren't gonna win in Denver
- 13:25Speaker 3: with that roster. Sorry, it's just not happening. This is
- 13:28Speaker 3: their last shot to do this.
- 13:29Speaker 2: This is it. They know it, and so you are.
- 13:32Speaker 3: Going to get I think one of the biggest pushes
- 13:36Speaker 3: that you've seen, one of the most desperate teams that
- 13:39Speaker 3: you've faced in a long time in Minnesota tomorrow.
- 13:43Speaker 2: I agree.
- 13:44Speaker 1: Sometimes it's good and bad, though sometimes you can be
- 13:46Speaker 1: overly desperate.
- 13:48Speaker 2: Sure, Vick, you have your NBA head on today. I
- 13:51Speaker 2: think it's his NBA Finals, but I can't tell because
- 13:54Speaker 2: the script is in black. Yeah, it's hard to see
- 13:56Speaker 2: unless you're in person, hard to see in the screen.
- 14:00Speaker 2: Your boy powder here during the appetizer hour was actually
- 14:05Speaker 2: very smart. You're in a role today.
- 14:07Speaker 3: Thank you.
- 14:08Speaker 2: You were smart in the appetizer hour. Then you've got
- 14:10Speaker 2: the four corners and you got the four corners like
- 14:12Speaker 2: you're on a winning streak right now. I would I
- 14:14Speaker 2: would ride this as long as I can. You know what,
- 14:16Speaker 2: but I but since you represent the league, I'm coming
- 14:19Speaker 2: at your ass next segment good.
- 14:21Speaker 1: And I want to say one last thing about the
- 14:23Speaker 1: game tomorrow night in Minneapolis, the Nuggets and the Tea Wolves,
- 14:27Speaker 1: And I've come to this conclusion and I'm.
- 14:29Speaker 2: At peace with this.
- 14:31Speaker 1: As difficult as it might be to win there, even
- 14:34Speaker 1: with them missing their entire backcourt, I get it. As
- 14:39Speaker 1: this scene will be the atmosphere, the climate. Haven't won there,
- 14:43Speaker 1: all of this stuff. If the Nuggets cannot win that game,
- 14:48Speaker 1: I'm at peace. Then I know they're just not good enough.
- 14:53Speaker 1: All excuses nothing right. We're not making excuses right, No,
- 14:58Speaker 1: I was. We're not making excuses right.
- 15:01Speaker 2: No excuses. No, there can be no excuses made. Look, man,
- 15:06Speaker 2: I know that you're missing ag and I don't know
- 15:08Speaker 2: what Peyton Watson's story. I just have no idea. Maybe
- 15:11Speaker 2: his leg's gonna fall off. I don't know, but he
- 15:15Speaker 2: reinjured the Hams. I hate that. I mean I hated
- 15:19Speaker 2: for him. I hated for the team.
- 15:20Speaker 3: Well, let's let's get more into this in a second.
- 15:23Speaker 3: Good news for you guys. Not only do we have
- 15:25Speaker 3: Jared Bednar at nine o'clock this morning to a recap.
- 15:30Speaker 3: I thought, is it eight o'clock, Nelly, I got nine
- 15:33Speaker 3: on this sheet here. Well he told me eight o'clock. Okay,
- 15:36Speaker 3: I mean he told.
- 15:37Speaker 2: Me on the airplane in the way home was too
- 15:38Speaker 2: eight okay?
- 15:39Speaker 3: Well I got the sheet eight o'clock this morning. We'll
- 15:42Speaker 3: talk to Jared Bednar at nine to twenty though, because
- 15:44Speaker 3: we've had nothing going on last night or tonight, the
- 15:48Speaker 3: feud's back. Oh god, we're doing the feud at nine
- 15:51Speaker 3: twenty this morning.
- 15:51Speaker 1: Are you serious?
- 15:52Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 15:53Speaker 1: Oh man, I'm just gonna surprise you guys. I still
- 15:55Speaker 1: have the feud questions. The night that I hosted the Nuggets,
- 16:02Speaker 1: I was going to be a bus round. I was
- 16:04Speaker 1: going to ask you guys the Nuggets feud question.
- 16:07Speaker 2: Okay, maybe we could do that. We'll do that instead.
- 16:09Speaker 1: Then can I host it this time? Because I'm so
- 16:11Speaker 1: bad at it?
- 16:12Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's what makes it.
- 16:15Speaker 2: No, Vic, you can't host it. You can't. You're not
- 16:17Speaker 2: hosting Jack.
- 16:23Speaker 3: No, Bennard is going to join us at eight o'clock
- 16:26Speaker 3: and forty five minutes stiground. All right, So Jared Bennard
- 16:30Speaker 3: eight o'clock this morning. I just want to start a
- 16:34Speaker 3: couple of minutes here. I believe that this is and
- 16:36Speaker 3: I heard Brian Winhorse say this on Sports Center the
- 16:39Speaker 3: other day. Vic, this is the Minnesota Timberwolves Super Bowl. Yeah,
- 16:44Speaker 3: this is it, like tomorrow will be that in the
- 16:47Speaker 3: reason for it is it gets them to advance.
- 16:50Speaker 2: Uh.
- 16:51Speaker 3: I know that Chris Finch said that they got good
- 16:55Speaker 3: news regarding Anthony Edward's injury. Now here's my question. That
- 17:02Speaker 3: looked every bit the diagnosis and the time frame for return,
- 17:08Speaker 3: just like Nicolla, Jokic hyper extension of the knee. Diagnose
- 17:12Speaker 3: it a bone bruise out four to six weeks. We'll
- 17:14Speaker 3: see from there. So it seems to have all of
- 17:17Speaker 3: the indicators of Jokich and Jokic missed a month. Now
- 17:20Speaker 3: that was the regular season. Maybe he could have returned faster.
- 17:23Speaker 3: I don't know. Point is, you still aren't going to
- 17:26Speaker 3: have him back for a while. Chris Finch saying that
- 17:30Speaker 3: we got better news and we thought regarding the injury.
- 17:32Speaker 3: Is that a little bit of coaching going out there saying, hey, guys,
- 17:35Speaker 3: if you win this series, we can get ant back.
- 17:39Speaker 3: Keeping them motivated sort of thing. Is that what's going
- 17:42Speaker 3: on there?
- 17:43Speaker 1: Always having that sort of hanging over their heads. Yeah,
- 17:46Speaker 1: it's strategy, I mean giving them hope. Yeah, to have
- 17:50Speaker 1: him come back earlier than they want, that's a danger
- 17:54Speaker 1: to his career. He's too young for that. Yeah, right,
- 17:58Speaker 1: he's too young for that. Now he's gonna want to play,
- 18:00Speaker 1: you know that. I can close my eyes and envision.
- 18:05Speaker 1: Let's say it goes Game seven and that's a week
- 18:07Speaker 1: after his injury and he tries to trot out there
- 18:10Speaker 1: like Willis Reid google it. I just don't think they
- 18:14Speaker 1: would allow that to happen. So that's a serious injury.
- 18:18Speaker 3: And this is why I think that they are going
- 18:20Speaker 3: to throw everything at tomorrow's game. And the reason why is,
- 18:24Speaker 3: look the Nuggets records in Game seven's isn't like something
- 18:29Speaker 3: that is some unbeatable force. But they've played in a
- 18:33Speaker 3: ton of them, a ton, and there's one thing you
- 18:36Speaker 3: need in game seven. You need that guy. You need
- 18:41Speaker 3: that dude. And without Anthony Edwards going on the road
- 18:45Speaker 3: for a Game seven, Julius Randall's just not gonna be enough.
- 18:49Speaker 3: And they can feed off their crowd tomorrow. All the
- 18:53Speaker 3: Nuggets need to do is it feels like, win this
- 18:56Speaker 3: basketball game and they will have an chance to win
- 19:01Speaker 3: after that.
- 19:02Speaker 1: It was from the television perspective. Anthony Edwards is not
- 19:06Speaker 1: here for Game five, correct? I imagine he wasn't. He's
- 19:08Speaker 1: probably doing rehab. Did you guys see him on the bench.
- 19:12Speaker 2: I don't think I did. I think I did either.
- 19:15Speaker 1: I have a feeling he'll be there tomorrow night.
- 19:17Speaker 2: I'm sure he will in person. I mean he'll be
- 19:19Speaker 2: on the bench and supporting the team.
- 19:21Speaker 1: Yeah, that is gonna be a game again. I still
- 19:25Speaker 1: even though you describe it this way, and you're exactly right,
- 19:28Speaker 1: the emotion is an advantage to Minnesota. They're gonna have
- 19:31Speaker 1: emotional advantages, the crowd, noise, the moment, all of it
- 19:35Speaker 1: is advantage Minnesota. Doesn't matter, doesn't matter to me. You
- 19:40Speaker 1: have to have enough to win this game. You put
- 19:41Speaker 1: yourself in this situation the Nuggets did. They put themselves
- 19:45Speaker 1: in a situation where they have to win a very
- 19:47Speaker 1: difficult game. And I could see it come down to
- 19:50Speaker 1: the last two possessions. I can, and you're gonna have
- 19:54Speaker 1: to find a way to win a game there. Somebody's
- 19:57Speaker 1: gonna have to make a play. The little things matter.
- 19:59Speaker 1: And when I say little things, I went back and
- 20:01Speaker 1: rewatched parts of Game five and I'm looking at the
- 20:06Speaker 1: little things. And here's what I mean by little things.
- 20:08Speaker 1: Do you know that Christian Brown dunk that gave him
- 20:11Speaker 1: the technical that everybody's talking about. If you go back
- 20:16Speaker 1: and watch, look at what happened. Just seconds before the dunk,
- 20:21Speaker 1: Nikola jokicch is bringing the ball up full court. Rudy
- 20:24Speaker 1: decides to guard him full court. CB notices that he
- 20:30Speaker 1: hurries to set a pick on Rudy Gobert at the
- 20:33Speaker 1: half court line. Joker rides Rudy into that pick, and
- 20:38Speaker 1: Rudy should have been called for a foul there. He
- 20:40Speaker 1: turns around CCB and pushes him with two hands. But
- 20:44Speaker 1: cebe at least went out there to set the pick.
- 20:46Speaker 1: He's like, okay, I can't score, I'm gonna start setting that.
- 20:49Speaker 2: That was right in front of the scorer's table.
- 20:51Speaker 1: Yes, so what happens Rudy pushes him with two hands.
- 20:55Speaker 1: Should have been a foul, but that's fine. Playoff basketball.
- 20:58Speaker 1: Rudy's now out of the play. He's disengaged. He's too
- 21:00Speaker 1: worried about Christian Brown. He pushes CB basically into a
- 21:04Speaker 1: fast break. Joker speeds up. McDaniels has to move up
- 21:08Speaker 1: because Rudy is compromised, and it leads to that two
- 21:12Speaker 1: on one in the dunk. But those little things matter,
- 21:15Speaker 1: Cam Cam Johnson, offensive rebounds running toward the rim, those matter.
- 21:20Speaker 1: Jamal hustling. There's that one play where I think he
- 21:22Speaker 1: had three rebounds by himself. He got some help from Joker.
- 21:25Speaker 1: He couldn't score until he got the end one the
- 21:29Speaker 1: val Bean Val the little things matter.
- 21:32Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what they're gonna need tomorrow because it
- 21:35Speaker 3: is going to be a battle. It will be, and
- 21:38Speaker 3: plenty of more time to talk about that as we
- 21:40Speaker 3: lead up to it.
- 21:40Speaker 4: Now.
- 21:41Speaker 3: One thing I do want to get to is the
- 21:42Speaker 3: NBA announced yesterday this, according to Shams, this new proposal
- 21:47Speaker 3: to fix the lottery that is supposedly going to curb tanking.
- 21:51Speaker 3: And they're calling it the three two one lottery.
- 21:53Speaker 2: So here's what's gonna happen.
- 21:54Speaker 3: They're gonna expand the lottery from fourteen to sixteen teams.
- 21:58Speaker 3: Teams that do not qualify for the play play in
- 22:00Speaker 3: tournament but stay out of the relegation zone, which is
- 22:03Speaker 3: spots four through ten, would receive three lottery balls each.
- 22:07Speaker 3: Teams with a bottom three record the relegation zone would
- 22:11Speaker 3: have just two lottery balls, but have a floor of
- 22:13Speaker 3: the twelfth pick while the rest have a floor of
- 22:17Speaker 3: the sixteenth. There's a whole bunch of technical mumbo jumba
- 22:20Speaker 3: that's in here, but I will repeat what I've said before.
- 22:26Speaker 3: The NBA had one question to answer, a singular question
- 22:30Speaker 3: when it comes to tanking, what.
- 22:35Speaker 2: Is the incentive to win?
- 22:39Speaker 3: And this proposal does not answer that question us well.
- 22:45Speaker 3: In fact, it gives two more teams, incentivizes them to lose.
- 22:52Speaker 1: But it incentivizes the bottom three win three teams. You
- 22:55Speaker 1: don't want to be a bottom three team. A bottom
- 22:58Speaker 1: three team has the same chance as winning the lottery
- 23:02Speaker 1: as teams seven, eight, nine. See.
- 23:06Speaker 2: But here's the problem.
- 23:07Speaker 3: Vic The bottom three teams aren't competitive anyway. That's why
- 23:11Speaker 3: they're the bottom three. You want teams twelve through sixteen
- 23:15Speaker 3: to be competitive because when we looked at the standings
- 23:17Speaker 3: at the end of the year, here's the problem is
- 23:20Speaker 3: that when you looked at teams that were either in
- 23:22Speaker 3: the top six seeds or in the play in, the
- 23:25Speaker 3: drop off between the ten seed in the eleven, the
- 23:27Speaker 3: cutoff for the play in was eleven games in the
- 23:30Speaker 3: Western Conference. In the Eastern Conference it was eleven games
- 23:35Speaker 3: between the ten and the eleven. Those are the teams
- 23:37Speaker 3: that need to be incentivized, not Washington who wins seventeen games.
- 23:43Speaker 2: They aren't good anyway. This fixes zero, Vick. I'm trying
- 23:48Speaker 2: to tell you the teams nowadays mostly just real quick.
- 23:55Speaker 3: Yeah, what it does is it has the teams that
- 23:58Speaker 3: are nine to ten now saying, well, why don't we
- 24:00Speaker 3: lose to try and get a lottery ball?
- 24:02Speaker 2: One hundred percent, Vic. The way the league is constructed
- 24:06Speaker 2: and the way it gets so top heavy, you know what,
- 24:10Speaker 2: I know what, it's been top heavy for years and
- 24:13Speaker 2: years and years and years. The teams that are nine
- 24:17Speaker 2: and ten, they don't even want to be in. They
- 24:21Speaker 2: don't want to be there. The hell I would bet
- 24:23Speaker 2: the teams that are eight and seven, unless it's a young,
- 24:26Speaker 2: scrappy team that's up and coming, they know they can't win.
- 24:30Speaker 2: They know they aren't going to go all the way, Vic,
- 24:33Speaker 2: They know it. Do you understand what I'm saying to you, Vittorio?
- 24:37Speaker 2: I do. There's so much money now in the NBA
- 24:41Speaker 2: for these owners. Everybody's getting such a fat piece of
- 24:45Speaker 2: the pie that having even two extra home games doesn't
- 24:49Speaker 2: really do anything for them anymore. Yeah, do you understand
- 24:52Speaker 2: what I'm saying. The incentive, by far is to actually
- 24:58Speaker 2: get in the damn lottery with more balls now than
- 25:01Speaker 2: it would be to be a nine or a ten
- 25:03Speaker 2: in the play in, or even a seven or eight.
- 25:05Speaker 2: I'm telling you, Vic, these teams that are in that
- 25:08Speaker 2: middle of the pack almost making it to the to
- 25:11Speaker 2: the gonna dance. I'm telling you, Vic, the incentive for
- 25:15Speaker 2: them would be to lose and try to get a
- 25:18Speaker 2: lottery ball and try to be try to become one
- 25:20Speaker 2: of the top heavies.
- 25:22Speaker 1: Dial it up, though at certain times you're gonna have to,
- 25:24Speaker 1: I mean, the manipulation is gonna be have to be
- 25:27Speaker 1: so precise. I think this is a good move. I
- 25:31Speaker 1: don't think it's ever going to cure tanking. Nothing will
- 25:34Speaker 1: ever cure tanking. But I think this is a move
- 25:37Speaker 1: in the right space. I really do. You can't let
- 25:40Speaker 1: the bottom three teams see what the NBA is saying.
- 25:43Speaker 1: Let me tell you in a roundabout way, what they're
- 25:44Speaker 1: saying is we're not gonna make the lottery, and the
- 25:48Speaker 1: draft your safety net. Your front office has to be
- 25:53Speaker 1: able to do that. There are enough draft picks in
- 25:56Speaker 1: a draft at five and six help Nikolioki in the
- 26:00Speaker 1: second round. There are enough ways to get better. You
- 26:04Speaker 1: don't always have to be one of the worst teams
- 26:07Speaker 1: and win the lottery every year. Figure it out, that's
- 26:10Speaker 1: what the league is saying. Figure it out.
- 26:13Speaker 3: This doesn't fix it, though, and this is just a
- 26:16Speaker 3: waste of everybody's time. And it was a waste of meetings.
- 26:20Speaker 3: Now again, you have to be able to incentivize a
- 26:24Speaker 3: team to win. Now the NFL, this is what's interesting,
- 26:27Speaker 3: and this is something I just kind of stumbled across,
- 26:29Speaker 3: I think, and just talking about this in the appetizer.
- 26:32Speaker 3: The biggest separation between the NFL and the NBA is this.
- 26:36Speaker 3: It's really hard to go full in on tanking in
- 26:39Speaker 3: the NFL because you need guys to play. And here's
- 26:45Speaker 3: the main difference. The non fully guaranteed contract. That's an
- 26:53Speaker 3: incentivizer for everybody that's on the field. If you don't
- 26:56Speaker 3: want to perform because our team sucks, well guess what
- 26:58Speaker 3: I'll cut you. Then yeah, you're gone, and you don't
- 27:00Speaker 3: you don't have money anymore.
- 27:01Speaker 2: The lack of guaranteed contract is a big, big incentive.
- 27:05Speaker 2: But let's say this.
- 27:06Speaker 3: Let's say that the Nuggets, instead of winning fifty four games,
- 27:08Speaker 3: won eighteen this year. Christian Brown's got a five year,
- 27:12Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty five million dollar fully guaranteed contract
- 27:14Speaker 3: that hasn't even started yet. If they're an eighteen win
- 27:18Speaker 3: team on April second, what's the stop CB from being
- 27:21Speaker 3: like al my back hurts. You have nothing, you can
- 27:24Speaker 3: do nothing, to punish him. At least in the NFL,
- 27:28Speaker 3: they have to earn their contract every single year essentially,
- 27:32Speaker 3: and you just don't have that in the NBA. So
- 27:34Speaker 3: it makes it a lot easier.
- 27:35Speaker 1: So you think it's just a lever and all the levers. Listen,
- 27:38Speaker 1: you still gotta win. I mean, you gotta win the lottery.
- 27:40Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 27:41Speaker 1: What hurts, when this stuff hurts is when teams that
- 27:44Speaker 1: shouldn't be winning lotteries. The year that San Antonio won
- 27:48Speaker 1: when they shouldn't have, the year that Doubt Dallas won,
- 27:51Speaker 1: Dallas won. It's those teams. Hell, guys. You know what
- 27:56Speaker 1: you know what makes you sick to your stomach? The
- 27:57Speaker 1: LA Clippers, I know they gave okay, see their lottery
- 28:02Speaker 1: thing essentially. You know what makes you even mos your
- 28:05Speaker 1: looking up? I want you to look it up. I
- 28:08Speaker 1: want you to do it. Google. Who owns the Denver
- 28:12Speaker 1: Nuggets two thousand, twenty seven and twenty eight first round
- 28:16Speaker 1: draft picks?
- 28:18Speaker 2: All Right?
- 28:19Speaker 4: Nuggets twenty twenty seven and twenty twenty eight first round
- 28:28Speaker 4: draft picks?
- 28:31Speaker 3: Words permittent?
- 28:31Speaker 2: Need help? Hey man?
- 28:35Speaker 1: Do you have the answer that's okay?
- 28:37Speaker 2: See whatever?
- 28:43Speaker 1: How I don't how how see? But is there some rule.
- 28:50Speaker 1: Does everybody every team, Oh, what's happened? When did this happen?
- 28:55Speaker 3: Can I ask you a question? Did do you guys
- 28:57Speaker 3: have a problem? Because the draft this year had a
- 29:04Speaker 3: team that is a dynastic team that has essentially made
- 29:09Speaker 3: the AFC Championship Game every year since Patrick Mahomes has started.
- 29:14Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes goes down with the knee injury.
- 29:16Speaker 2: What did the Chiefs do? They started rusting guys. Yeah,
- 29:23Speaker 2: and they picked sixth overall in the draft. Well, they
- 29:25Speaker 2: moved up to six. They were like.
- 29:27Speaker 3: Seventh though they were there.
- 29:28Speaker 2: There's seventh or eighth to start.
- 29:30Speaker 3: Nobody cares.
- 29:32Speaker 2: In fact, people looked at the Chiefs.
- 29:33Speaker 3: He goes, eh, pretty smart, pretty smart. And I get
- 29:37Speaker 3: that the NFL and the NBA are different. But but
- 29:40Speaker 3: the the entire idea of this lottery, I think only
- 29:44Speaker 3: incentivizes teams to lose more, especially now.
- 29:48Speaker 2: Because you've added two more teams. Yeah, date Loto balls again, Vick.
- 29:51Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back and say, I think the prospect,
- 29:56Speaker 2: however low it may be, but the odds of getting
- 30:00Speaker 2: into the lottery and actually getting a top three pick
- 30:04Speaker 2: outweigh getting your ass kicked in a play in I'm
- 30:07Speaker 2: telling you, I'm telling you Vic, that's the way these
- 30:10Speaker 2: owners are going to view it.
- 30:12Speaker 1: And I believe the NBA is telling teams right now,
- 30:16Speaker 1: you're trying so hard to prop up your lottery chances,
- 30:20Speaker 1: you're trying so hard to win the Golden ticket. What
- 30:23Speaker 1: they're saying in return is be better as a front office.
- 30:27Speaker 1: If Sam Presty and the Oklahoma City Thunder can figure
- 30:31Speaker 1: it out in that market, you figure it out.
- 30:33Speaker 3: They kind of did that through tanking though. They got
- 30:36Speaker 3: rid of Russell Westbrook after Kevin Durant left, They got
- 30:38Speaker 3: rid of all their players were like herding with Russell.
- 30:41Speaker 2: They got rid of KD. They got rid of Russell,
- 30:44Speaker 2: the KD left, Katie left. Sorry, they got rid of
- 30:47Speaker 2: hard and early. That was the early going.
- 30:49Speaker 3: That was just a dumb decision by correct. But once
- 30:52Speaker 3: they found out it's just Russell Westbrook on this team,
- 30:55Speaker 3: we aren't gonna win.
- 30:56Speaker 2: They shipped them off.
- 30:57Speaker 3: They're like, okay, fine, then we're done and then we're
- 30:59Speaker 3: gonna start over by tanking. And that's how they built
- 31:02Speaker 3: their team back up. And then they use those ticks
- 31:04Speaker 3: sure to go in in a dish off.
- 31:07Speaker 2: Paul George for the MVP.
- 31:09Speaker 1: A lot of teams tank. The Washington Wizards of tanked
- 31:12Speaker 1: like eight of nine years, and they're not okay.
- 31:14Speaker 2: See, well, just because your tank doesn't guarantee you success,
- 31:17Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. But if, but if you tank,
- 31:19Speaker 2: you get better, it's a success.
- 31:21Speaker 1: Can I ask you this be a better front office?
- 31:22Speaker 3: Can I ask you this? A couple of years ago,
- 31:25Speaker 3: before the year before the Luca trade, or maybe it's
- 31:29Speaker 3: two years before that, and of the regular season Dallas
- 31:33Speaker 3: Mavericks are hovering around that play in spot because at
- 31:36Speaker 3: that time I think it was only eight or what yeah, whatever,
- 31:39Speaker 3: and Mark Cuban shut down Luka Doncic the last couple
- 31:42Speaker 3: of games of the year intentionally to lose up to
- 31:44Speaker 3: miss the play in and get in the lottery.
- 31:46Speaker 2: Yep? Does this change that? Yes?
- 31:50Speaker 1: How well, look at look at they incentivize the teams
- 31:54Speaker 1: that are in the play in. They give them a
- 31:56Speaker 1: better chance of winning lottery tickets, they give them a
- 32:00Speaker 1: lottery ball, they give them a better chance if you
- 32:03Speaker 1: get into the playing I look at work.
- 32:06Speaker 2: It's not better than if you if you finish out
- 32:10Speaker 2: y Yeah, yes, yes it is.
- 32:12Speaker 3: Look the ninth and tenth playing seeds in each conference
- 32:16Speaker 3: receive two lottery balls each, while the losers of the
- 32:19Speaker 3: seven to eight playing games receive one lottery ball. It
- 32:22Speaker 3: still doesn't incentivize you to win those, but you can.
- 32:25Speaker 2: Get a better chance then you will had before, but
- 32:29Speaker 2: not a better chance than the teams that are suck holes.
- 32:33Speaker 2: I don't.
- 32:33Speaker 3: I just think this is a big to do about
- 32:35Speaker 3: nothing because they just want to say, hey, we did something,
- 32:37Speaker 3: and it's like, does it fix it?
- 32:39Speaker 2: Not? Vic? What I'm what I'm arguing to you is
- 32:41Speaker 2: that I think the NBA is in a very unenviable position,
- 32:46Speaker 2: uniquely to the NBA because it's so top heavy and
- 32:51Speaker 2: the fewest amount of players affect the biggest outcome. And
- 32:55Speaker 2: so if you just have I mean, if you win
- 32:57Speaker 2: the damn lottery and you get a generation you can
- 33:01Speaker 2: I mean, it's worth it's worth a pile of gold
- 33:04Speaker 2: to these owners.
- 33:05Speaker 1: I guess you know what else the league is saying,
- 33:06Speaker 1: you don't have to win the lottery to get a
- 33:08Speaker 1: generational You don't have to. I give you the Denver Nuggets.
- 33:14Speaker 2: Well, okay, now you're talking about a once in a
- 33:17Speaker 2: lifetime It's.
- 33:18Speaker 3: Like got draft Tom Brady?
- 33:20Speaker 2: Then yeah, that's a once in a lifetime hit, you
- 33:23Speaker 2: know what, And I know it for the Patriots and
- 33:25Speaker 2: for the Nuggets supporting.
- 33:27Speaker 1: Cast I guess to get there. Do you know how
- 33:28Speaker 1: many times the.
- 33:29Speaker 2: Demo Jamal Murray was a lottery bro?
- 33:31Speaker 1: Do you know how many times the Denver Nuggets have
- 33:33Speaker 1: held the number one pick in the lottery? None? Your
- 33:37Speaker 1: GPA zero?
- 33:39Speaker 2: I understand how many times the Sacramento k Think about
- 33:42Speaker 2: the Sacramento Kings. How big a suck hole they are? Yeah?
- 33:45Speaker 2: How many times they won the lottery in their existence?
- 33:48Speaker 1: Zero?
- 33:49Speaker 2: Forty years? Forty one years. Once you know the draft,
- 33:54Speaker 2: you know the best player the bet. This is what's
- 33:56Speaker 2: so sick about it, the very best player in the
- 33:59Speaker 2: lottery they drive in the draft. Let me think what
- 34:02Speaker 2: year was this, nineteen eighty six?
- 34:06Speaker 1: I want to say, nineteen eighty six. Who is the
- 34:08Speaker 1: best player? Lobby?
- 34:10Speaker 2: You know it's gonna blow your He played for the Laker.
- 34:13Speaker 2: It's gonna blow your mind. I'll tell you who the
- 34:16Speaker 2: second I'll tell you who the second best player in
- 34:19Speaker 2: the draft was.
- 34:20Speaker 1: Well read, who was in nineteen eighty six? Who was
- 34:23Speaker 1: the second best player?
- 34:24Speaker 2: The second best player was Billy owens All.
- 34:27Speaker 3: Right, who was it?
- 34:28Speaker 2: Quick? Never nervous? Pervis Ellison? Oh my god, is that
- 34:32Speaker 2: was the crap dude to win the lottery in a
- 34:34Speaker 2: crap hole? That's uh? The best player Steve Nelson at
- 34:39Speaker 2: five to two and.
- 34:40Speaker 3: Flute blowing Jade Jared.
- 34:45Speaker 2: Nellie, no offense.
- 34:47Speaker 3: Jared Bednar is gonna join us in twenty minutes. Stick around,
- 34:49Speaker 3: Jared Bednar is gonna join us in fifteen minutes.
- 34:51Speaker 2: Yes, Moje, just one second please. It ain't the way
- 34:57Speaker 2: you move, It's all I had to say.
- 35:01Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about.
- 35:02Speaker 2: Hey, the knives are coming out in Dallas right now.
- 35:07Speaker 1: Has Miko scored in the series?
- 35:08Speaker 2: Oh baby, that's exactly what I was talking about. From
- 35:14Speaker 2: the Athletic and.
- 35:16Speaker 3: The quote New York Times.
- 35:20Speaker 2: They're all over him. They're asking where the guy was
- 35:27Speaker 2: from last year? Where's that guy gone? Because he's nowhere
- 35:30Speaker 2: to be found.
- 35:33Speaker 3: He scored three goals since March twenty eighth.
- 35:37Speaker 2: I'm way over here, Brett. I'm sorry, I'm out. I'm
- 35:41Speaker 2: out of the Could you repeat that please?
- 35:43Speaker 3: He scored three goals since March twenty eighth.
- 35:46Speaker 2: How many of those were even strength? Of course? He
- 35:49Speaker 2: also missed time.
- 35:50Speaker 3: One power play goal here, that would be one even
- 35:55Speaker 3: strength goal since then.
- 35:57Speaker 2: One even strength goal in a month. All right, hey man,
- 36:03Speaker 2: We've got our own things to worry about here. I'm
- 36:05Speaker 2: just saying that if if you've got a team, and
- 36:08Speaker 2: it's the way it should be, and it's really, to
- 36:12Speaker 2: me again, a bummer for the league to have two
- 36:16Speaker 2: of your best teams in the entire league have to
- 36:19Speaker 2: meet in the first round of the playoffs. I could
- 36:21Speaker 2: argue to you, Vic, the way it's set up. Look
- 36:23Speaker 2: at me, look at this face of mine. Were the
- 36:28Speaker 2: Avs the Stars in the Minnesota Wild You can throw
- 36:30Speaker 2: Carolina in there too, But were they two of the
- 36:32Speaker 2: excuse me, three of the top four, maybe three of
- 36:35Speaker 2: the top three, certainly three of the top five teams
- 36:38Speaker 2: in the league going into the postseason? Would you agree, yes,
- 36:42Speaker 2: of course. Then you're mandated to knock one of them
- 36:45Speaker 2: out in the first round, and you're mandated to knock
- 36:47Speaker 2: another one out in the second round. Yeah, mandated by
- 36:51Speaker 2: the structure of the postseason. Sure, that makes no sense
- 36:54Speaker 2: to me at all.
- 36:55Speaker 1: Talked about this, I.
- 36:57Speaker 2: Know, but it just doesn't make any sense. Why do
- 36:59Speaker 2: you want a mandate that two of and I know
- 37:03Speaker 2: you want a mandate. You guts Bruski's pizza, pizza shrapnel.
- 37:10Speaker 2: The the the league will say, look, men, you get
- 37:14Speaker 2: more eyeballs in the first round. Everybody watched that game
- 37:17Speaker 2: last night. My wife wanted to watch that game last night.
- 37:21Speaker 2: She's like, I'm in and we went to a place
- 37:23Speaker 2: and we watched not only that, but we watched the
- 37:25Speaker 2: end of the Buffalo and Boston game. M H. So,
- 37:30Speaker 2: I mean, I get it. I get that you want
- 37:32Speaker 2: eyeballs on the first round and things are cyclical. It
- 37:34Speaker 2: won't always be that way. The Pacific's gonna come back sometime,
- 37:38Speaker 2: the Metro is gonna do this, and blah blah blah
- 37:40Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah. But right now, I just don't
- 37:43Speaker 2: I don't like any any scenario or two of the
- 37:46Speaker 2: top five teams in the league. One has to be
- 37:48Speaker 2: bounced in the first round, no matter what, and one
- 37:50Speaker 2: has to be bounced in the second round. I don't
- 37:52Speaker 2: care if it's cyclical. I don't want it in any here.
- 37:54Speaker 3: Well, I want to jump back into this in a bit.
- 37:56Speaker 3: We'll talk to bed Nard eight o'clock. There is something
- 37:59Speaker 3: else want to mention to you, and I just want
- 38:02Speaker 3: to see are you not concerned, mildly concerned, or very concerned?
- 38:08Speaker 3: Those are your options when you see that Bo Nicks
- 38:11Speaker 3: had another follow up cleanup procedure on that ankle.
- 38:14Speaker 1: Mildly. I think I'm a little bit more than mildly.
- 38:18Speaker 1: I'm what's better than medium? When you get barbecue wings medium,
- 38:22Speaker 1: I'm at medium.
- 38:24Speaker 2: So my mild medium hot? Your medium?
- 38:27Speaker 1: I'm at medium. Well, and I'll explain myself.
- 38:30Speaker 3: Here's why I asked the question, because this is how
- 38:32Speaker 3: it is said by Ian Rappaport and Mike Garafalo. While
- 38:37Speaker 3: the team is expected to be conservative with his participation
- 38:41Speaker 3: during the off season program, Nix continues to make strong
- 38:44Speaker 3: progress for his recovery remains firmly firmly on track to
- 38:48Speaker 3: be ready for the start of training camp, but he
- 38:50Speaker 3: called this a successful and anticipated follow up clean up procedure.
- 38:56Speaker 2: I've seen a couple of those.
- 38:57Speaker 3: You know, uh, internet football doctor guys, you know that
- 39:01Speaker 3: doctor what's his name Chow and other people. They said,
- 39:04Speaker 3: anticipated is probably a little too nice of a word
- 39:09Speaker 3: for what this was. It's not a guarantee that you're
- 39:12Speaker 3: having a clean up procedure afterwards. But it's not uncommon,
- 39:15Speaker 3: I guess, but I I how about this, I would
- 39:20Speaker 3: put myself in the mild territory. It would be a
- 39:24Speaker 3: lot different if bo Nix has missed games. But I
- 39:28Speaker 3: think I've counted five, maybe six starts that he's missed
- 39:32Speaker 3: since his freshman year of college. Yeah, despite all of
- 39:35Speaker 3: these ankle issues that he's had before. That's why I'm like,
- 39:38Speaker 3: you know, he plays them, so.
- 39:39Speaker 2: No concern for you whatsoever.
- 39:42Speaker 3: Mild.
- 39:43Speaker 2: Okay, I'm a mild as well. But here's why I'm
- 39:46Speaker 2: a mild. Not even about whether he's gonna be able
- 39:49Speaker 2: to come back and you know, participate in the off
- 39:51Speaker 2: season or be ready for training camp or anything like that.
- 39:54Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be totally fine in that regard.
- 39:57Speaker 2: But what I don't like, and now the truth highest
- 40:00Speaker 2: level Number one. I don't like the fact that it
- 40:02Speaker 2: was a non contact pop Number two. I as you
- 40:09Speaker 2: get older and as you continue to wear and tear
- 40:11Speaker 2: with the other best players on the planet, I always
- 40:14Speaker 2: have a fear of vic of re injuring that that
- 40:17Speaker 2: now it becomes chronic. Now and I'm not saying every
- 40:20Speaker 2: year or whatever, but I can see two and a
- 40:23Speaker 2: half three years down the road and other proceed you know,
- 40:25Speaker 2: these kinds of things. That's what that's what concerns me.
- 40:28Speaker 2: That's where my mildness comes in your medium.
- 40:30Speaker 1: Why it's already chronic, It's already chronic. He's had multiple
- 40:35Speaker 1: issues with the ankles. That's the definition of chronic. He's
- 40:39Speaker 1: had surgeries with the ankles. It's not one time in
- 40:41Speaker 1: his life. It's not two times in his life, it's
- 40:43Speaker 1: multiple times. The word chronic.
- 40:45Speaker 2: Look it up.
- 40:45Speaker 1: It's chronic. He's got ankle problems. And some bodies are
- 40:51Speaker 1: inclined to have issues with certain parts of the body.
- 40:53Speaker 1: Some people have bad knees. You know all my basketball buddies,
- 40:57Speaker 1: I play with bad knees. I've had MCLs, some acls,
- 41:02Speaker 1: knock on wood. I've never had any problem, but I've
- 41:05Speaker 1: broken both of my ankles multiple times, and I have
- 41:08Speaker 1: the arthritis and scar tissue to prove it. Some people
- 41:12Speaker 1: have bad parts in their that just go bad. And
- 41:15Speaker 1: what it does, in my humble opinion, you could fix it.
- 41:18Speaker 1: And he's fixing it right now. And he went back
- 41:19Speaker 1: in and he cleaned it up. They probably had to
- 41:21Speaker 1: remove the hardware. That's what the cleanup procedure is whatever
- 41:24Speaker 1: they used to fix it. They had to remove the hardware. Fine,
- 41:27Speaker 1: that's not the issue here. The issue is will it
- 41:30Speaker 1: happen again? Why is it happening the way his body's built.
- 41:34Speaker 2: So you're saying when they went into the first time
- 41:37Speaker 2: when he got injured last year before the AFC title game,
- 41:42Speaker 2: they put stuff in there, They put like, yeah, it
- 41:45Speaker 2: was surgically prepaired.
- 41:46Speaker 1: Yeah, they they the hardware and they went in and
- 41:48Speaker 1: removed the hardware. Now the question isn't whether or not
- 41:50Speaker 1: that worked.
- 41:50Speaker 2: Of course it worked.
- 41:52Speaker 1: The question is will it hold up again. He's had
- 41:54Speaker 1: multiple and you knock on wood and you hope and
- 41:58Speaker 1: you cross your fingers. It's the same thing. Everyone has,
- 42:01Speaker 1: that achilles heel. Excuse that, you know, it's funny that
- 42:05Speaker 1: it's a body part, but everybody has it. For Aaron Gordon,
- 42:08Speaker 1: it's his muscles, Hey man, it's his hamstrings, you know.
- 42:11Speaker 1: For again, a lot of people knee injury after knee
- 42:14Speaker 1: injury after knee injury. For me, it was my ankles.
- 42:17Speaker 1: For bo it's his ankles.
- 42:19Speaker 3: There was a very famous story about a superstar that
- 42:23Speaker 3: had ankle problems to the point where the team just
- 42:25Speaker 3: didn't trust it anymore, and they tried to ship him
- 42:29Speaker 3: to Milwaukee for in Boget. Yeah, and that team doctor said,
- 42:33Speaker 3: I don't trust those ankles either. You can keep them.
- 42:36Speaker 3: And then Steph Curry won a million.
- 42:37Speaker 1: Titles exactly right?
- 42:39Speaker 2: Am I the only one? Though? Am I the only one?
- 42:41Speaker 2: Am I the only g here? Yeah? When I think chronic,
- 42:48Speaker 2: I think ninety two, I think Dray, Yeah, Belly.
- 42:52Speaker 1: Cranken, I hope you make a point here.
- 42:58Speaker 2: Yeah, well you bring up chronic. I think of dre
- 43:01Speaker 2: is nineteen ninety two debut as you did ask you
- 43:06Speaker 2: said chronic? What do you know about chronic?
- 43:08Speaker 1: Is this gonna be one of those mornings when if
- 43:10Speaker 1: I say a word, you're gonna have a song that
- 43:12Speaker 1: it's attached to that word. Are you just gonna have Nelly.
- 43:14Speaker 2: Played DJ all the morning on the planet, who's a
- 43:17Speaker 2: self proclaimed hip hop expert. You don't get into the
- 43:20Speaker 2: chronic by Dre from ninety two? Of course they do, so,
- 43:24Speaker 2: I mean this is his debut album.
- 43:26Speaker 1: That just want the conversation without just playing DJ? What
- 43:31Speaker 1: you have to offer to that conversation besides asking him
- 43:35Speaker 1: to play a song?
- 43:36Speaker 2: Okay, Nellie crank it up. Let me add to the conversation. Yeah,
- 43:40Speaker 2: uh mo, shit. I hope bone Nick doesn't blow up.
- 43:45Speaker 2: I hope the ankle likes to hold up. He's gonna
- 43:49Speaker 2: throw the ball this year, even though Vic calls it chronic.
- 43:53Speaker 2: That's okay. Huh yeah, I'm hoping that a whole song again.
- 44:00Speaker 2: I thought that was pretty good knowing your teammates.
- 44:04Speaker 3: When you when you said all further the conversation than
- 44:08Speaker 3: you decided to do a rap saying I hope his
- 44:10Speaker 3: ankles open.
- 44:11Speaker 1: That one's on Nelly again. We've talked about this, Nelly
- 44:14Speaker 1: hang on a on.
- 44:17Speaker 2: All I did was look at Vic's face. He did
- 44:21Speaker 2: crack a smile, though he cracked a baby smile out
- 44:23Speaker 2: of the corner. I did see that, a tiny baby
- 44:26Speaker 2: smile because I had.
- 44:27Speaker 1: So much more to say about this, but I couldn't go.
- 44:30Speaker 2: Well, we got to go to the coach anyway. It
- 44:31Speaker 2: doesn't really matter what you have to say. You can,
- 44:33Speaker 2: you can hold it for later and I will shut up.
- 44:35Speaker 2: I will not wrap over your your your thought.
- 44:39Speaker 1: Plus he saw it back.
- 44:40Speaker 3: I mean, I just can he just talked sports head
- 44:43Speaker 3: coach of the abs coming off that he did in
- 44:46Speaker 3: a very entertaining way a sweep in the first round.
- 44:49Speaker 3: Jared Bednall are joined just next