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- 1:15Speaker 1: gambler dot net in West Virginia. Welcome to the favorites,
- 1:26Speaker 1: the podcast from the volume podcast network. I am Chad Mellman,
- 1:31Speaker 1: chief content officer of the Action Network. I am joined,
- 1:35Speaker 1: as I am every single episode, by my companion, my
- 1:40Speaker 1: co host, my bff, my compadre, professional better, Simon Hunter. Chat.
- 1:49Speaker 1: What a weekend. What at last, thirty six hours for
- 1:51Speaker 1: your friends, Simon here, I bet green bay right, we're
- 1:54Speaker 1: all we're all in on Green Bay half time. went
- 1:56Speaker 1: to bed at Sunday night, say ten o'clock. Wake up
- 2:00Speaker 1: three am, answer emails, text, get all the bets in,
- 2:03Speaker 1: make new bets. See what bets hit. Five Am. Quick shower,
- 2:06Speaker 1: head over to my MOM's. Go in. Guess what it is, chat,
- 2:09Speaker 1: it's the funeral for the Queen. Don't know a lot
- 2:15Speaker 1: of new listeners. You're from England, loosely. My Mom's from England.
- 2:20Speaker 1: I was born in America, but I am British like
- 2:22Speaker 1: I spent a lot of lived in England for a
- 2:24Speaker 1: long time, but I don't want the government to knock
- 2:27Speaker 1: on my door. I am an American citizen. Um, yeah,
- 2:31Speaker 1: so I went over with my mom, watched the funeral
- 2:34Speaker 1: and I said, were like it's like eight am at
- 2:35Speaker 1: this point. I go I gotta go work. She goes, Oh,
- 2:38Speaker 1: don't worry, it will be over soon. The Queen's very modest.
- 2:40Speaker 1: She says she don't want a long funeral. So I
- 2:42Speaker 1: go back my go home, I sleep, I wake up,
- 2:45Speaker 1: I call her, she says, yeah, it's still going on.
- 2:47Speaker 1: So I mean six hours passed. So this woman had
- 2:49Speaker 1: a funeral for about eleven hours. Uh, got bust. The
- 2:52Speaker 1: Queen head to the Eagles game. Obviously saw that game,
- 2:56Speaker 1: went to bed, woke up work this morning. Now I'm
- 2:58Speaker 1: doing a podcast with chat. So for me it's been
- 3:00Speaker 1: a world win three or six hours and I'm excited
- 3:03Speaker 1: to talk about week three. Slightly underprepared, but come on,
- 3:07Speaker 1: people get let me live a little. It's rare the
- 3:09Speaker 1: Eagles win a Monday night game. I think it's the
- 3:11Speaker 1: first time we've opened the season on a Monday night
- 3:13Speaker 1: in about fifteen years. So well, this podcast had a
- 3:17Speaker 1: really big night on Monday night. The Buffalo Bills, Matt
- 3:21Speaker 1: Mitchell's team. Uh. They dominated the Tennessee Titans as ten
- 3:26Speaker 1: point favorites in prime time and they are looking like
- 3:29Speaker 1: one of those teams that you get, those teams that
- 3:33Speaker 1: they just come out and they're so dominant from the beginning.
- 3:36Speaker 1: They exceed every expectation when they were already high. The Eagles,
- 3:40Speaker 1: a team we've been loving since before the season started,
- 3:44Speaker 1: are really performing at a level that proves the roster moves.
- 3:51Speaker 1: We're smart, but also the jitalen hurts, who the numbers
- 3:56Speaker 1: back up, has been one of the best performing quarterbacks
- 3:58Speaker 1: since he started, uh as a starter for the eagles.
- 4:01Speaker 1: He was amazing last night, Simon even more amazing. We
- 4:06Speaker 1: went three and two in our phase five. Uh. So
- 4:10Speaker 1: we are now eight and two on the year. Goal
- 4:12Speaker 1: of my friend, uh, you and you cash right and
- 4:17Speaker 1: you do very well. So we went three and two.
- 4:20Speaker 1: Is My favorite saying. If you're six, you can go
- 4:22Speaker 1: three and two every weekend. Are Good News for you
- 4:24Speaker 1: can literally quit your job and do this as a career.
- 4:27Speaker 1: That's right. If you want to again, follow the phase
- 4:30Speaker 1: five in the action network APP. That's where we put
- 4:33Speaker 1: all of our contest picks. We did really well with
- 4:36Speaker 1: all of our picks last week. Um, uh, I would
- 4:40Speaker 1: say the team that we totally love right now the
- 4:44Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars. They were one of our phase five. They
- 4:46Speaker 1: were my exact decision. Uh. They opened it four and
- 4:50Speaker 1: a half. Last week they closed it three. They dominated.
- 4:53Speaker 1: They were great. Here's what's interesting to me, and I
- 4:56Speaker 1: want to get your take on this. We were on
- 4:58Speaker 1: the Jags at twelve to to win the A F
- 5:00Speaker 1: C south. We like the Jacks at seven and a half,
- 5:03Speaker 1: eight to want to win the A F C south.
- 5:05Speaker 1: I'm surprised that now the odds for the A F
- 5:08Speaker 1: C south, uh, the jags are still like three to one,
- 5:14Speaker 1: at least before the game last night. I should have
- 5:16Speaker 1: checked before I came on the podcast today. How about
- 5:18Speaker 1: the jags not the odds on favorite to win that
- 5:20Speaker 1: division right now? Yeah, I'd say that goes a lot
- 5:22Speaker 1: into the money that's driving that number around. Right the
- 5:26Speaker 1: position the book needs to take, and also they got
- 5:29Speaker 1: other factors into it. Of this Jaguar team really hasn't
- 5:32Speaker 1: proved them before. I know neither of the culture right
- 5:34Speaker 1: the colts have not won that division, but it just
- 5:37Speaker 1: seems like the book is just hesitant to it. So
- 5:39Speaker 1: it was the public where, like me and you talked
- 5:40Speaker 1: about it. We just looked at this whole division overall
- 5:42Speaker 1: and said, who the hell are the cults? Who is?
- 5:45Speaker 1: Who the hell is Tennessee to be favored by again?
- 5:48Speaker 1: Twelve to one is what we were giving out the
- 5:50Speaker 1: jags all summer. Um. It's it's just typical football, right.
- 5:54Speaker 1: People are based on everything off last year. Now looking
- 5:57Speaker 1: at this year and looking all the weaknesses of Tennessee,
- 6:00Speaker 1: you know, look at the same thing with the colts.
- 6:01Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, nothing against Matt Ryan, it's just we
- 6:04Speaker 1: really haven't seen it from him in a lot of
- 6:06Speaker 1: years and people expected him to come in and just
- 6:07Speaker 1: be this savior for them, which is not so. And
- 6:10Speaker 1: we backed a second year quarterback and that's always an
- 6:12Speaker 1: advantage for us back in the second year quarterback to
- 6:15Speaker 1: take a step and the team has the money to
- 6:18Speaker 1: spend on the rest of the team. Like again, there's
- 6:19Speaker 1: gonna be a bunch teams we'll talk about today. That's
- 6:22Speaker 1: the building blocks. Like if you can get that cheat
- 6:24Speaker 1: coat of a cheap quarterback, you can spend the money
- 6:26Speaker 1: elsewhere and the quarterback improves. That's how you make runs.
- 6:30Speaker 1: So yeah, feeling really good. Two weeks in. A bunch
- 6:32Speaker 1: of calls we made. Um, it's they're we're looking pretty smart.
- 6:36Speaker 1: Like again the lines, big win. That was another team
- 6:38Speaker 1: we really love coming into the year in Houston, and
- 6:42Speaker 1: the in Atlanta, both too, and Oh, against the spread,
- 6:44Speaker 1: two teams we talked about being undervalued coming into the season,
- 6:48Speaker 1: Atlanta shure. I still think Atlanta should be too, and
- 6:50Speaker 1: know they've left these games. They didn't get away from him.
- 6:52Speaker 1: But again it's just exciting seeing like the work we
- 6:54Speaker 1: put in. It's coming to fruition. Our only big miss,
- 6:59Speaker 1: only team we're really out on that came to the
- 7:01Speaker 1: year and did well. Giants too, and Oh, giants start
- 7:03Speaker 1: the year again. It's two weeks in, but man, that
- 7:07Speaker 1: that to me is one of more shocking records. You
- 7:09Speaker 1: look on paper, because again there's only like five or
- 7:11Speaker 1: six teams to and Oh, the giants really stand out
- 7:13Speaker 1: right now. We went three and two last week. We
- 7:15Speaker 1: won the Jags, we won the Patriots, we won the eagles,
- 7:20Speaker 1: we lost in the saints, we lost the Panthers. If
- 7:22Speaker 1: we had to frame it as which team has stabbed
- 7:25Speaker 1: us in the back, the panthers. Still, they lost the
- 7:33Speaker 1: giants this past weekend game they should have won, ugly
- 7:37Speaker 1: game they lost. They lost to the browns the weekend before,
- 7:40Speaker 1: another one that they should have won. Man, I was
- 7:43Speaker 1: really high on this Panther's team before the season started. UH,
- 7:47Speaker 1: they're not performing up to their I see what you're like.
- 7:50Speaker 1: I saw what you see, though, right like we still
- 7:52Speaker 1: think thefc south. A couple of games go a little
- 7:54Speaker 1: different again at Lanta, their two and O will be
- 7:56Speaker 1: tied with the bucks. Right now in that division. It's like,
- 7:59Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a closer then people are perceived.
- 8:01Speaker 1: But the baker factor, so that that's been the tough
- 8:04Speaker 1: pill to swallow. It's like we need Baker to have
- 8:05Speaker 1: these moments to stop up in two weeks in a
- 8:08Speaker 1: row he's kind of burned us. So, yeah, he just
- 8:10Speaker 1: hasn't been. He just hasn't that's exactly what it is.
- 8:12Speaker 1: I believed in Baker. Maybe I shouldn't have to close
- 8:15Speaker 1: it out. The housekeeping. Sonnon says last week it was
- 8:19Speaker 1: the niners minus nine and a half. Excellent work. The
- 8:22Speaker 1: exact decision was the Jags by me. Excellent work, Chad.
- 8:27Speaker 1: The big balls New York. Yet yea US Foxhole was
- 8:35Speaker 1: the saints. We lost that one. Chad had the JAGS
- 8:38Speaker 1: and Scooch Roulette. He's now two, and Oh Simon had
- 8:42Speaker 1: the saints and scootrow letting one and one reminder. Follow
- 8:48Speaker 1: the favorites podcast in the action network APP to get
- 8:51Speaker 1: those picks. We're separating out the phase five at its
- 8:55Speaker 1: own handle so we can just track the five that
- 8:59Speaker 1: we love for our contest every week. And someone, someone
- 9:03Speaker 1: DM me and said can you explain the contest? So
- 9:05Speaker 1: you and I are in a high stakes contest where
- 9:09Speaker 1: we have to choose five games every week. Those lines
- 9:13Speaker 1: lock in the middle of the week, but the selections
- 9:16Speaker 1: aren't doing until Sunday. So we are constantly in contact
- 9:20Speaker 1: thinking about the five that we love and then on
- 9:21Speaker 1: Sunday we nail, we lock in those, those five picks,
- 9:25Speaker 1: and we put that in the APP under the phase
- 9:27Speaker 1: five and I'll put in notes about whether or not
- 9:29Speaker 1: we still like the line, if the line has moved, etcetera, etcetera.
- 9:33Speaker 1: Simon steelers Brown's open two and a half. This Thursday
- 9:44Speaker 1: night football got bet up to five and a half.
- 9:48Speaker 1: Now it's four and a half. I will tell you.
- 9:50Speaker 1: I bet the steelers at five and a half. That
- 9:52Speaker 1: was just too big of an adjustment. Made no sense
- 9:55Speaker 1: for me for this number to be at five and
- 9:57Speaker 1: a half. The money on the steelers right now. That's interesting.
- 10:02Speaker 1: You like you came in on Pittsburgh. I would have
- 10:04Speaker 1: been all over the browns coming out just because of
- 10:06Speaker 1: that loss they just had, where the steelers just looked,
- 10:11Speaker 1: not that they gave up, but like, like we talked
- 10:14Speaker 1: about having a quarterback you can believe in. It just
- 10:16Speaker 1: doesn't feel like they believe in Mitch so. I just
- 10:18Speaker 1: don't really have a good vibe with them right now,
- 10:20Speaker 1: where it's like the Patriots were dying to give that
- 10:23Speaker 1: game away, like they had the ball three different times
- 10:26Speaker 1: when they were down three and they could not put
- 10:28Speaker 1: a drive together with Mitch Um. So, coming in this game,
- 10:31Speaker 1: I was looking actually back on the browns. Um I
- 10:34Speaker 1: thought you were getting a fair number and in fact
- 10:36Speaker 1: it was under six. But now we're a getting news
- 10:38Speaker 1: that you know, clowne's out, miles Garrett might be out
- 10:41Speaker 1: now you just popped up the injury report again. Short week,
- 10:44Speaker 1: quick turnaround. Tough for me to really make a play
- 10:47Speaker 1: on this. Like I might be inclined to take the
- 10:48Speaker 1: over because I have two quarterbacks that you know, they
- 10:51Speaker 1: could turn their ball over. They're kind of a risky
- 10:55Speaker 1: quarterback play, like both of them are. For set played
- 10:58Speaker 1: very well against the jets Um. That was just more
- 11:01Speaker 1: on the defense that broke down the end there. So
- 11:04Speaker 1: to me, yeah, I honestly leaned towards the Browns, but
- 11:06Speaker 1: because it's so early and I don't really know enough
- 11:08Speaker 1: injury news, I can't really tell anyone to bet this one.
- 11:11Speaker 1: Like me and Chad have zero chance to play this
- 11:13Speaker 1: in the contest because there's not much value in it.
- 11:15Speaker 1: Um To me, the only reason we're gonna talk about
- 11:17Speaker 1: and play this because it's a Thursday night game. This
- 11:19Speaker 1: is just a classic, Gross Thursday night divisional game. Well,
- 11:23Speaker 1: that's why that that's one of the reasons for me
- 11:26Speaker 1: and UH is. I think the number got too high.
- 11:30Speaker 1: These games tend to be very close. Four is now
- 11:34Speaker 1: a key number as well. I was getting well over
- 11:37Speaker 1: the four at five and a half. I felt like
- 11:39Speaker 1: I had a decent amount of cushion. In a short week.
- 11:43Speaker 1: Divisional rivals, these games tend to play to three. I
- 11:47Speaker 1: like the dogs here. Don't know it again, this is
- 11:50Speaker 1: gonna be an underplay too. So it's like historically short,
- 11:54Speaker 1: short total. You take this. You just blindly take the
- 11:56Speaker 1: dog here, especially divisionally. Um, I told you. I just Paul,
- 12:00Speaker 1: because the data backs up. The home favorites historically click covered,
- 12:03Speaker 1: almost clip on Thursday nights. So that's one of those
- 12:06Speaker 1: where it's like yeah, Sunday game I look at it
- 12:09Speaker 1: a little differently, but I always leaned towards the favorites
- 12:12Speaker 1: on Thursday nights. If I get back door again, like
- 12:14Speaker 1: last week, so be it. Uh, it just prevails out
- 12:17Speaker 1: the math that has taken favorites on Thursdays. Here's a
- 12:20Speaker 1: great note from Evan Abrahams are Director of research at
- 12:23Speaker 1: the Action Network. UH, since two thousand ten Thursday games
- 12:27Speaker 1: with a total of forty or below are eighteen and
- 12:32Speaker 1: five to the under, hitting the under by eight point
- 12:36Speaker 1: nine points per game. UH, so they're averaging about thirty
- 12:41Speaker 1: one points per game. Uh. This is the lowest Thursday
- 12:45Speaker 1: night football total since Chicago played Detroit in two thousand nineteen.
- 12:52Speaker 1: It was thirty seven and a half. The total in
- 12:56Speaker 1: this game, if I haven't said it, is a thirty
- 13:00Speaker 1: eight and a half is the best number that you
- 13:02Speaker 1: can get right now. Oh, I guess we know what
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- 13:52Speaker 1: That's net suite dot com slash favorites. All Right, Ravens, patriots, boy,
- 14:00Speaker 1: this look aheadline on this was pick. It's now ravens
- 14:04Speaker 1: minus three. Ravens. Look, we got to talk about the
- 14:08Speaker 1: Ravens for a second. There was an interesting conversation on
- 14:11Speaker 1: the Action Network, a podcast that's stucky and Raybond had
- 14:14Speaker 1: again listen to the Action Network podcast. That Thursday version.
- 14:17Speaker 1: Chris Raybond and stuck. You will nail down six of
- 14:20Speaker 1: their favorite picks. There's Sunday six pack. Stucky was all
- 14:24Speaker 1: over the first half in this game. He's like, just
- 14:26Speaker 1: bet the Ravens in the first half. It turns out
- 14:28Speaker 1: he was right. We liked the ravens minus three and
- 14:31Speaker 1: a half. We knew weren't going to get the three,
- 14:32Speaker 1: so we bet it three and a half. Boy, we
- 14:34Speaker 1: looked good for about forty seven minutes. Yeah, what can
- 14:40Speaker 1: you do it? There's honest the only thing I would
- 14:42Speaker 1: take away from that. I'd be really happy is Miami Fan.
- 14:44Speaker 1: It's like your coach obviously can scheme it up two
- 14:47Speaker 1: obviously throw it and you have two incredible wide receivers.
- 14:50Speaker 1: But now there's nothing to take away. I mean, I
- 14:53Speaker 1: guess I'm a little worried. The Ravens can't eat a
- 14:55Speaker 1: clock away and there's supposed to be a great running team,
- 14:57Speaker 1: but they're up the defense. It was on a hot
- 15:01Speaker 1: field in the second half and just had a track
- 15:03Speaker 1: meet and they just got burnt like. Well, I don't
- 15:05Speaker 1: know what. They give up twenty eight points, I think
- 15:07Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. It's yeah, yeah, we've we've never
- 15:11Speaker 1: seen it before. It's a historical things. So yeah, it sucks.
- 15:13Speaker 1: I lost a ton of money on it, but it's
- 15:15Speaker 1: just like all right, under the next one. It's just
- 15:17Speaker 1: something you've never seen before in dolphins history, dolphins long history.
- 15:22Speaker 1: They've never scored that many points in the fourth quarter.
- 15:24Speaker 1: Like even thinking all those Don Shula teams, the Marino teams,
- 15:27Speaker 1: never happened. So it's just I don't know what to
- 15:30Speaker 1: take from it. It's like, should I overrate Miami? Nour
- 15:33Speaker 1: do nothing with it? I'm probably gonna do nothing. My
- 15:35Speaker 1: only pause is, what the Hell is going on Baltimore?
- 15:37Speaker 1: They can't freaking run the ball and milk away a
- 15:40Speaker 1: thirty five or four team lead. It's it's a little
- 15:42Speaker 1: scary when they're supposed to be the best unning team
- 15:44Speaker 1: of football. So I guess that's the biggest pause. But
- 15:47Speaker 1: the only thing is I'm just I guess I'm just
- 15:49Speaker 1: excited about Miami. It's like that. That too is stuff.
- 15:52Speaker 1: That's a lot of noise. He dealt with the Tom
- 15:54Speaker 1: Brady stuff, everything that went on. He obviously's got the goods,
- 15:57Speaker 1: like he was making those throws. Um. It's just hard
- 16:00Speaker 1: to know if that was legit or if that was
- 16:02Speaker 1: just a fluke in that situation. Well, look, he might
- 16:05Speaker 1: have all the talents in the world and wasn't being
- 16:08Speaker 1: put in the right schemes. Um and there was a stat.
- 16:13Speaker 1: Next Gen stats had it. I think UH Brandon Anderson
- 16:19Speaker 1: mentioned this on the Monday Action Network podcast, the review podcast.
- 16:25Speaker 1: Ravens defensive backs ran sixty four hundred yards trying to
- 16:32Speaker 1: keep up with dolphins receivers on Sunday afternoon. Yeah, it's
- 16:38Speaker 1: that's an impossible situation you put in. Here's another interesting
- 16:42Speaker 1: one and John Harbaugh in his career is the best
- 16:46Speaker 1: first half R O I as a coach in his career.
- 16:50Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson the last five years, first half most profitable
- 16:54Speaker 1: qb Tibet in the first half. All that said, Ravens
- 16:57Speaker 1: are three point favorites on the road against the Patriots.
- 17:02Speaker 1: I feel like the Patriots are not a very good team.
- 17:05Speaker 1: You know what to do, though. We have there's no
- 17:07Speaker 1: there's only one play here, Chad. We make this bet
- 17:10Speaker 1: almost nine out of ten times. The numbers back it
- 17:13Speaker 1: up to but we play the Patriots here every time.
- 17:15Speaker 1: It's again belichick at home as a dog against a
- 17:18Speaker 1: team that something's not right there clearly, like the jets,
- 17:22Speaker 1: were actually moving the ball on this Baltimore team. So
- 17:25Speaker 1: if the Ravens are down four cornerbacks again, that's a
- 17:28Speaker 1: major issue. Like Mac Jones, look pedestrian. This could be
- 17:32Speaker 1: the cure he needs a team that's given up the
- 17:33Speaker 1: most receiving yards to anyone else in football. So, Um Yeah, too,
- 17:38Speaker 1: too much respect for a ravens team that doesn't deserve
- 17:40Speaker 1: the respect right now. I'm with you. Patriots Stink, but
- 17:44Speaker 1: I take this plus three every time. It's just a
- 17:46Speaker 1: situational play for the most part. Do we think this
- 17:49Speaker 1: is a this doesn't feel like a contest play to me.
- 17:54Speaker 1: We'll see. It could turn into one, maybe if they
- 17:56Speaker 1: give us a better number, because like three. Three is
- 17:58Speaker 1: a great number, but obviously went three and a half,
- 18:00Speaker 1: so I would say three. No, but three and a
- 18:02Speaker 1: half I definitely think about it. We might get there.
- 18:04Speaker 1: Right now, the split between on bets is nine Ravens.
- 18:09Speaker 1: So this number could get higher. It could, but again
- 18:12Speaker 1: we saw it last week of the pros. The pros
- 18:14Speaker 1: always keep these numbers in check. So, Dallas, we loved
- 18:16Speaker 1: it eight and a half. We still liked that at seven,
- 18:19Speaker 1: but we literally did the shows eight and a half.
- 18:20Speaker 1: The next show we did it was down to seven.
- 18:22Speaker 1: Like the pros, don't let the numbers sit at a
- 18:23Speaker 1: key number for that long. So if you see three
- 18:26Speaker 1: and a half, I would grab that right away. Again,
- 18:28Speaker 1: action APP turned the alert on, but we'll let you know.
- 18:30Speaker 1: And it's three and a half. Good promotion right there, buddy.
- 18:34Speaker 1: All right, this next game chief's colts. Colts are seven
- 18:39Speaker 1: point underdogs right now. That's the best number out there.
- 18:44Speaker 1: Full Confession. I bet the colts plus seven this morning.
- 18:50Speaker 1: I would have waited on the injury report Um see
- 18:53Speaker 1: if if their team's gonna be healthy, just because they
- 18:56Speaker 1: had two major injuries last week. But yeah, no brainer play.
- 19:00Speaker 1: Colts are are run dominant team going against the chiefs team.
- 19:03Speaker 1: That that's kind of their biggest weaknesses. They can give
- 19:05Speaker 1: up big runs, you can ball control against the chiefs.
- 19:09Speaker 1: It's a great spot to be in and we already
- 19:11Speaker 1: knew as soon as this number came out. I saw
- 19:13Speaker 1: the six and a half. Every teaser leg will have
- 19:15Speaker 1: the chiefs in it this week. It's like the bengals
- 19:17Speaker 1: from last week. It's just even Cleveland last week. There
- 19:20Speaker 1: are just no brain or teaser plays that's what the
- 19:22Speaker 1: chiefs will be this week. So I would say it
- 19:25Speaker 1: makes sense. You better early because again, I don't think
- 19:27Speaker 1: that seven is gonna be there that long. I think
- 19:29Speaker 1: the pros will hit it. Um. But yeah, again, I
- 19:33Speaker 1: wanted to make this my Simon says play, but I
- 19:36Speaker 1: just don't see enough sevens out there to give it out.
- 19:38Speaker 1: I think everyone's stuck at six and a half and
- 19:40Speaker 1: I don't wanna be that guy ticking the seven, giving
- 19:42Speaker 1: out the six and a half. Well, the one thing
- 19:43Speaker 1: I can say is the seven has been there for
- 19:45Speaker 1: a while. I thought it would disappear immediately. What's that?
- 19:51Speaker 1: And only that. All depends on the book. Like I'm
- 19:53Speaker 1: on the APP right now. There's plenty, plenty of six
- 19:55Speaker 1: and a half. Yeah, there's a lot of six and
- 19:56Speaker 1: a half. There's not. There's one seven and it's just
- 19:59Speaker 1: sitting there and I it's actually interesting to me that
- 20:01Speaker 1: it hasn't moved. Um, I would say that's probably the
- 20:05Speaker 1: most public book. Yeah, I guess that's true. Yeah, it's
- 20:08Speaker 1: totally true. Um, all right. Well, I thought this would
- 20:13Speaker 1: we we would make this some kind of Simon says
- 20:18Speaker 1: executive decision. It's got a foxhole feel to it, but
- 20:21Speaker 1: I can see why you'd want to hold off. I'm
- 20:23Speaker 1: putting this in any one of these things until we
- 20:26Speaker 1: get more status on the injury yeah, because that's again
- 20:30Speaker 1: they have two. Two of their best players were hurt
- 20:32Speaker 1: last week. So to me, if Leonard's out and Pittman's
- 20:37Speaker 1: out again, that's that's that's again the best defensive player
- 20:40Speaker 1: than the best receiver are out. That's that's a big deal.
- 20:43Speaker 1: All right. So right now, basically what you've said is
- 20:45Speaker 1: I bet the UH steelers five and a half. You
- 20:48Speaker 1: don't love it. I bet the colts plus seven. You
- 20:51Speaker 1: feel like I might have pulled the trigger too early. Oh,
- 20:54Speaker 1: I think you've got a good number. I'm saying anyone
- 20:56Speaker 1: else that's getting six and a half, I just wouldn't
- 20:57Speaker 1: do it. It's not worth it because you already missed
- 20:59Speaker 1: the seven. The lions. It's not going blows six right
- 21:03Speaker 1: like there's no chance. That's number six. So that's what
- 21:05Speaker 1: I'm saying. The lions are visiting the Vikings. I don't
- 21:11Speaker 1: know why this number is so big right now. The
- 21:13Speaker 1: lions are six point underdogs in this game. The money
- 21:19Speaker 1: and the tickets are moving in their direction. So the
- 21:21Speaker 1: line has moved down from six and a half. Uh.
- 21:24Speaker 1: Kirk cousins was terrible on money night football, which is
- 21:26Speaker 1: what we expect. Um, the lions either can't stop anybody
- 21:31Speaker 1: or are the greatest offensive team since the San Diego chargers.
- 21:38Speaker 1: Dan Campbell continues to be both lovable and sneaky, sneaky smart. Um,
- 21:46Speaker 1: lions plus six. What's say? You like new coming in?
- 21:50Speaker 1: I feel like the Vikens are probably gonna be an
- 21:51Speaker 1: auto played for me, just coming in off the fact
- 21:54Speaker 1: that everything you just said like we all love the lines.
- 21:57Speaker 1: They just had back to back home games. Now they're
- 21:59Speaker 1: going on the road to play divisional foe that just lost.
- 22:02Speaker 1: That we know. At one o'clock on a Sunday against
- 22:05Speaker 1: a divisional team, you just take Kirk here. So to me,
- 22:09Speaker 1: I'm gonna work this week trying to convince chat and
- 22:11Speaker 1: make this one o war five, but this is one
- 22:13Speaker 1: of my favorite favorites this week. Um, they had all
- 22:16Speaker 1: the opportunity of the world right against the eagles. They
- 22:18Speaker 1: had a blocked field goal, they had to turn over
- 22:21Speaker 1: in the red zone, like it just wasn't their night.
- 22:24Speaker 1: Every little thing they could go wrong went wrong, and
- 22:27Speaker 1: Kirk looked horrible. We've seen this now ten times out
- 22:30Speaker 1: of Kirk Right. He's he's doing ten on Monday night football. Um,
- 22:34Speaker 1: maybe I'll reach out to evan and try to get
- 22:36Speaker 1: the Info and what his record is after that Monday
- 22:38Speaker 1: night game. But it's gotta be good, like this is
- 22:40Speaker 1: the this is the buying low on Kirk and this
- 22:42Speaker 1: is where we want to be with Kirk right. This
- 22:44Speaker 1: always works out for me and Chad, buying low and
- 22:46Speaker 1: Kirk at home on a Sunday. I mean, I want
- 22:50Speaker 1: to be all in on the lines because this is
- 22:51Speaker 1: this is a big deal right. This would flip to
- 22:54Speaker 1: me their divisional odds. If the lines win this game,
- 22:57Speaker 1: I think they would be even odds right now to
- 22:59Speaker 1: win this divis and obviously Green Bay would still be
- 23:01Speaker 1: at the top. But yeah, a huge game for the lines.
- 23:05Speaker 1: I just can't get behind it. It's just like I
- 23:07Speaker 1: get it. They've they've they've played well. They had to
- 23:09Speaker 1: come back on the eagles, who looked like world beaters.
- 23:11Speaker 1: But I don't think the Vikings are as bad as
- 23:13Speaker 1: people perceived it. They just had a really bad night
- 23:15Speaker 1: on Monday night against the eagles. How do you have
- 23:19Speaker 1: what's your number on this game seven. So, like I
- 23:21Speaker 1: thought it was good at seven like that made sense
- 23:23Speaker 1: to me. The fact that dropped a point makes even
- 23:25Speaker 1: more sense. Right, like literally what we just saw last night.
- 23:28Speaker 1: WHO's gonna Back Kirk? There's just a few of us
- 23:30Speaker 1: out here that's gonna be like no, like this is
- 23:33Speaker 1: what Kirk does, this is when you went in back Kirk.
- 23:35Speaker 1: But I think the public just forgets that. They're just
- 23:37Speaker 1: so piste off at him because it's like, you suck, Kirk,
- 23:40Speaker 1: this is why we all hate you. or it's like
- 23:42Speaker 1: he's not terrible, he's just average. He's never gonna be
- 23:46Speaker 1: above average. He's just is what he is. I don't
- 23:49Speaker 1: know why you feel like you have to convince me
- 23:51Speaker 1: of that. Uh Well, I just figured you'd be on lines,
- 23:54Speaker 1: because we love the lines like we love the lines,
- 23:55Speaker 1: and this is a good number at six, six and
- 23:57Speaker 1: a half. Listen to me, I'm a profession you know, okay,
- 24:01Speaker 1: I don't bet the emotions, I bet what the right
- 24:05Speaker 1: side is, and right now I think you're getting a
- 24:08Speaker 1: bilow sell, high spot, boxel, Vikings and the lines, Foxhel on,
- 24:14Speaker 1: the Vikings, foxhole it. Let's clide down into the Foxhole,
- 24:23Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings, because the money is are you saying? The
- 24:26Speaker 1: money and the tickets are on Detroit? Yeah, so, yeah, Foxhol, Foxhol,
- 24:31Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings. I love it. I freaking love that bet. Man,
- 24:40Speaker 1: I still like I didn't know what I want to do,
- 24:42Speaker 1: and now then you're talking. I freaking love it. It
- 24:44Speaker 1: makes all the sense in the world. And this, by
- 24:46Speaker 1: the way, is the lesson we have to remember every
- 24:49Speaker 1: single week. Stick to our principles. This is and it
- 24:53Speaker 1: gets harder in week three because you don't have the
- 24:56Speaker 1: immediacy of the overreaction under reaction. You're sort of get
- 25:00Speaker 1: and clouded with biases from two weeks of games. But look,
- 25:05Speaker 1: you want to bet on the team that just floundered
- 25:08Speaker 1: in prime time. You want to bet against the team
- 25:11Speaker 1: that is the sentimental darling and they just look so good.
- 25:16Speaker 1: Like the last two weeks. The offense for Detroit has
- 25:18Speaker 1: just been absolutely humming. Yeah, alright, this next game, the
- 25:22Speaker 1: stats and the panthers, the stints or two and a
- 25:24Speaker 1: half point favorites on the road. Look, we just talked
- 25:26Speaker 1: about this. The panthers have been stabbing us in the
- 25:29Speaker 1: fucking back, in the fucking stomach, in the fucking groin.
- 25:33Speaker 1: They've been kicking our teeth in. They have disappointed US
- 25:37Speaker 1: both weeks. I think you might want to get yourself
- 25:39Speaker 1: a helmet and a bulletproof vest and an iron jockstrap,
- 25:41Speaker 1: because you're gonna get your head shot, your back stabbed
- 25:43Speaker 1: and you're nuts danced on. I feel like we did
- 25:46Speaker 1: this a couple of years ago. It might have been
- 25:48Speaker 1: the falcons, where we kept thinking that we saw something
- 25:51Speaker 1: that nobody else was seeing. It was totally fucking US up.
- 25:55Speaker 1: The Saints Look Against the Bucks. What was it? Five
- 25:59Speaker 1: turnovers multiple times they had a chance to like close
- 26:03Speaker 1: the gap and at least cover that game. CHRYSTAL law.
- 26:05Speaker 1: They fumbles the ball. When he falls to the ground
- 26:08Speaker 1: on a great play, like a great catch, Jamie went
- 26:12Speaker 1: back to being Jamis. The bucks were not very good.
- 26:15Speaker 1: So how do we not get the Panthers Plus Three here? Yeah,
- 26:20Speaker 1: and again I would say that game it was three, three,
- 26:23Speaker 1: and then that became a ref show, right like that
- 26:25Speaker 1: whole fight happen with Mike Evans, latymore and something clearly
- 26:29Speaker 1: happened when the referees took a side, like there was
- 26:31Speaker 1: back to back calls. They took Tampa down the field,
- 26:35Speaker 1: Tom threw a touchdown. That was the game, because then
- 26:36Speaker 1: Jamis had to start forcing it and we saw it happened.
- 26:39Speaker 1: Jamis forced it in there through a pick six. So
- 26:41Speaker 1: Saints Team. I definitely want to bet a lot of
- 26:44Speaker 1: money on them. Last week, if I've known that Winston
- 26:46Speaker 1: had what I was at four fractured ribs or something
- 26:48Speaker 1: like that, it's like it's brutal when you get that
- 26:51Speaker 1: alert at twelve thirty from Schefter of a major injury
- 26:55Speaker 1: and it's like well, I can't get out of any
- 26:57Speaker 1: of these bets, I just gotta ride this out. I've
- 26:59Speaker 1: given out a podcast. I give it on our show
- 27:01Speaker 1: on Sunday morning. So that was brutal. But just looking
- 27:04Speaker 1: at this matchup, I think Chad touched on it. You
- 27:07Speaker 1: have two teams ots. Neither of them have covered this season. Right,
- 27:11Speaker 1: Carolina's owned two. Just historically in this position you take
- 27:15Speaker 1: the underdog and it hits it like a fifty eight
- 27:17Speaker 1: six rate. In Week three the team that two owned
- 27:21Speaker 1: team to own. Two teams were facing off a t s.
- 27:24Speaker 1: You just take the dog in this position. There's another
- 27:26Speaker 1: game like that this week. Um who was at raiders
- 27:28Speaker 1: Tennessee so it's kind of one of those where it's
- 27:31Speaker 1: like I alredy knew it was gonna like Carolina. They're
- 27:33Speaker 1: gonna be a home divisional dog at plus three. The
- 27:36Speaker 1: fact that there's gonna be trends back in it and
- 27:39Speaker 1: Jameis has this major injury. It's a big deal, but
- 27:43Speaker 1: I cannot let us, and I will not let us
- 27:45Speaker 1: do it to the fans and putting this in our
- 27:46Speaker 1: contest again, because I just got so much hated that.
- 27:49Speaker 1: I'm with him. It's like I that was so unenjoyable
- 27:53Speaker 1: because I just had so I felt good. Didn't you
- 27:55Speaker 1: feel good that Carolina game? It's like yeah, yeah, it
- 27:58Speaker 1: was feeling. Even during the game I was like no,
- 27:59Speaker 1: like acres having these moments, Daniel Jones has falling apart
- 28:02Speaker 1: and it's like no, like as much as we want
- 28:04Speaker 1: to bag on the giants, Daniel Jones is making the
- 28:07Speaker 1: play and the head coach is making the right call.
- 28:09Speaker 1: So it's like yeah, Carolina Auto played for me and Chad,
- 28:13Speaker 1: but no chance, lets be on my five. There's other
- 28:15Speaker 1: games I like way more than this. We one felt great. Honestly,
- 28:22Speaker 1: we felt great, like about the saints, about the panthers,
- 28:28Speaker 1: all of those games. Like in the early Games, I
- 28:30Speaker 1: looked at the action APP and like I've got nothing
- 28:32Speaker 1: but green circles for win probability, and then, like as
- 28:36Speaker 1: the day went on, it all fell apart. Like I'll
- 28:39Speaker 1: tell you what's gonna kill us. I thought about this
- 28:41Speaker 1: last night. Illegal contact is going to be this year's
- 28:48Speaker 1: you know, holding the year before. You know it's going
- 28:54Speaker 1: to be the call that fucking kills us on so
- 28:58Speaker 1: many bets. A I mean no again. Refs rough stick
- 29:02Speaker 1: did a lot of these games. Even that raiders cardinals game.
- 29:05Speaker 1: They said there was holding in the end zone, even
- 29:06Speaker 1: though Kylin Murray was outside the tackle box, which means
- 29:09Speaker 1: you can put hands on defenders once the KBI bricks
- 29:11Speaker 1: tackle box again. It's just there's just so much that
- 29:14Speaker 1: goes on and that kind of stuff where it's like
- 29:16Speaker 1: trying to get bogged down on if I'm with you
- 29:17Speaker 1: about that, like that's something you gotta keep in mind
- 29:19Speaker 1: about betting. These totals unders have been great, though. Yeah,
- 29:23Speaker 1: Texans visiting the Chicago bears. They are right now two
- 29:29Speaker 1: and a half point underdogs. They have been overachieving as
- 29:33Speaker 1: a team against the spread. undervalued. Professional betters have loved them.
- 29:38Speaker 1: Look the bears. They were destined to get crushed by
- 29:42Speaker 1: the packers in prime time. We said it, we knew it. Uh,
- 29:46Speaker 1: we bet the under. We liked the packers at minus nine,
- 29:50Speaker 1: minus ten. The packers are. The bears are young team
- 29:53Speaker 1: that seemed hungover, like they were celebrating too much for
- 29:57Speaker 1: winning a game in the slop. Fundamentally disappointing as a
- 30:00Speaker 1: bears fan, but we've got to move on. Short home
- 30:04Speaker 1: favorites not getting any love. I don't think I want
- 30:08Speaker 1: to bet the Texas here, though. It feels like we've
- 30:10Speaker 1: lost the value. Yeah, I would say if you can
- 30:13Speaker 1: stick at the three, I would take it, just because
- 30:15Speaker 1: I honestly have a lot more confidence in Davis Mills
- 30:18Speaker 1: then right now than I'm doing justin fields. He he
- 30:20Speaker 1: had guys open and he was not making the reads
- 30:22Speaker 1: he needed to make. Against the packers, like he had
- 30:24Speaker 1: opportunities and he was missing them. Obviously, rest and help either. Right.
- 30:27Speaker 1: We've all seen the clip. He clearly crossed the goal
- 30:29Speaker 1: on that second touchdown. Terrible, terrible, terrible call by that refs.
- 30:33Speaker 1: Even replayed it and they still got it wrong. Um, bears,
- 30:37Speaker 1: it's just we came into there. I said the two
- 30:40Speaker 1: worst teams on my list for the Seahawks and the bears.
- 30:42Speaker 1: They both one week one. I took a ton of
- 30:45Speaker 1: ship and I just said that. People. Listen, this is
- 30:47Speaker 1: literally how it goes in football, like ugly teams are
- 30:49Speaker 1: gonna Win Games, like it's so hard to go. Oh
- 30:52Speaker 1: and sixteen, oh and seventeen. Now it just doesn't happen.
- 30:55Speaker 1: I felt like that bears was the ultimate trap. We
- 30:58Speaker 1: both kind of knew with Green Bay this week, I'm
- 31:00Speaker 1: kind of with you in the sense that the bears
- 31:01Speaker 1: you're expecting to bounce back. But man, the Texans just
- 31:04Speaker 1: played tough and like they hang in these games. And
- 31:07Speaker 1: say what you want about the colts, like the colts
- 31:08Speaker 1: have more talent on paper than they do. Denver hasn't
- 31:11Speaker 1: more talent than they do Texans, and both games they're
- 31:14Speaker 1: in it, like I couldn't believe me and Chad, we're
- 31:16Speaker 1: sweating again. Broncos, UH, knock it out, Asher and survivor
- 31:20Speaker 1: almost knocked this out while we picked them this year. Um.
- 31:22Speaker 1: So to me, Texans, I think the public will be
- 31:25Speaker 1: on them too, like what you're talking about. The public
- 31:27Speaker 1: is gonna like the Texans again too, and o a
- 31:29Speaker 1: t s. they're just in these games with love you Smith,
- 31:32Speaker 1: Revenge Game For love you Smith. Give me the plus three,
- 31:35Speaker 1: two and a half. Maybe I think about the bears,
- 31:38Speaker 1: but at plus three I'll take the Texans on that number. Well,
- 31:41Speaker 1: right now it's it's kind of all over the place.
- 31:43Speaker 1: So if you can find the plus three, you gotta
- 31:46Speaker 1: get it. Otherwise it's kind of you just gotta wait.
- 31:49Speaker 1: You gotta assume the number might go back up. UH,
- 31:52Speaker 1: it probably won't go back on. So if you haven't
- 31:54Speaker 1: gotten three, then as it goes down, because I think
- 31:58Speaker 1: more money come in on the Texans, you might want
- 32:01Speaker 1: to think about the bears. It could be one of
- 32:03Speaker 1: those panthers giant situation like we had where the panthers
- 32:05Speaker 1: were dogs and then went off his favorites. Yep, you're right.
- 32:09Speaker 1: Lines in Washington too. I think Washington closed minus one favorite. Yep,
- 32:14Speaker 1: and in both cases the home team one. All right,
- 32:17Speaker 1: Eagles on the road at the commander's plus six and
- 32:23Speaker 1: a half. Listen, I hate to say it, but if
- 32:27Speaker 1: there's a time to fade the fly and bet the
- 32:30Speaker 1: commanders not to win, but at six and a half
- 32:33Speaker 1: that's a big number for a home dog. It's all
- 32:35Speaker 1: about your comfort level. Like, how do you feel about
- 32:38Speaker 1: back in, Carson Wentz? It's really we talked about roulette
- 32:43Speaker 1: on this show. It's the definition of Roulette. You're literally
- 32:46Speaker 1: taking a gun, throwing a couple of bullets in IT
- 32:47Speaker 1: and spinning it. With Carson Wentz, you have no idea
- 32:50Speaker 1: the outcome. I could give you all the numbers I
- 32:52Speaker 1: got back, all the reasons why you gotta take Washington here.
- 32:55Speaker 1: I have the hardest time ever convincing anyone listening to
- 32:57Speaker 1: the show to do it. It's it's disc susting, but
- 33:00Speaker 1: I think Chad's exactly right. Like not that we're just
- 33:03Speaker 1: selling them blindly. The Eagles in this position. This is
- 33:06Speaker 1: lines inflated like it should be four and a half.
- 33:09Speaker 1: It's six and a half. You getting two free points.
- 33:11Speaker 1: You take this every time Wentz can throw the ball.
- 33:15Speaker 1: This is clearly a great matchup for their offense. I
- 33:18Speaker 1: know the Egos look like unbelievable against the Vikings. Yeah,
- 33:21Speaker 1: and we just talked about the Vikings at all opportunity
- 33:23Speaker 1: of the world. They just didn't connect in the red zone.
- 33:25Speaker 1: I guess WHO's one of the best teams in the
- 33:26Speaker 1: red zone this season. The Washington football teams. I think
- 33:29Speaker 1: they're hitting at a nine percent clip in the red
- 33:30Speaker 1: zone again, only two weeks in, but they're efficient once
- 33:34Speaker 1: again in the red zone. So to me Chad's right.
- 33:37Speaker 1: We'll take the six and a half. But it's like
- 33:39Speaker 1: Carson Wentz man. I just don't know I'm gonna get
- 33:41Speaker 1: from play to play. The Guy is truly a wild card.
- 33:45Speaker 1: It's it's so frustrating to be a carson wentz better
- 33:49Speaker 1: one way or the other, because we've seen him fuck
- 33:51Speaker 1: us in every way. Yes, many times. You know, week
- 33:55Speaker 1: one he fucked us against the jags by coming back.
- 33:58Speaker 1: In Week two he almost sucked us by our contest
- 34:02Speaker 1: coming back. Uh. Here's an interesting stat from Evan Abrams.
- 34:06Speaker 1: Jalen hurts was forty one to win the M v
- 34:09Speaker 1: P when the odds opened. That was a h then
- 34:14Speaker 1: he moved down too to one, which is about eleven.
- 34:18Speaker 1: He's now tend to one, tied for yeah. So again,
- 34:22Speaker 1: as people that love the egos coming to the season,
- 34:25Speaker 1: we loved all the town the biggest question was can
- 34:28Speaker 1: hurts read a defense and make his third the second read?
- 34:31Speaker 1: Like you can't just throw it to your number one receiver,
- 34:34Speaker 1: a J Brown, was double covered all last night. He
- 34:36Speaker 1: worked his tight end, he worked his third receiver, he
- 34:38Speaker 1: worked his second re Siver. It's like, as an Egos Ferian,
- 34:41Speaker 1: that could not be happier. Um, but I also know
- 34:44Speaker 1: it's like I don't know, not that I think it's
- 34:48Speaker 1: moving too quick but like Chad just talked about, like
- 34:50Speaker 1: Eagles winning a primetime game like that so dominantly, just
- 34:53Speaker 1: the hype is gonna be out of the world right now.
- 34:55Speaker 1: Like I can't even imagine Philadelphia Sports Talk Radio. It's
- 34:58Speaker 1: just all gonna be such good vibes. This is kind
- 35:00Speaker 1: of where you're gonna FADE THE EAGLES team. People in
- 35:03Speaker 1: Philly don't really know what to do with good vibes.
- 35:07Speaker 1: They do because the weather is nice right now. I
- 35:09Speaker 1: would say once it's like December, you know, when it
- 35:11Speaker 1: gets cold it's different. But like at the tailgates last night, man,
- 35:15Speaker 1: everyone's not that everyone's really cocky, but we feel like
- 35:18Speaker 1: we kind of owned the Vikings just because we beat
- 35:20Speaker 1: them on the way to our super bowl. Um, I
- 35:23Speaker 1: just I could not get over how happy the vibes were.
- 35:27Speaker 1: Chat it made me so worried about our bet I
- 35:29Speaker 1: was like, we are fucked, like these people are already
- 35:31Speaker 1: cashing these tickets. This is not the position we want
- 35:33Speaker 1: to be in. But the eagles are good. Six and
- 35:36Speaker 1: a half point favorite on the ruin against the divisional team. Good,
- 35:38Speaker 1: I don't think so. Would you go to the game
- 35:41Speaker 1: with client? Yeah, like last minute, reached it out to
- 35:44Speaker 1: me to go. Um, so, I tell you, with buddies
- 35:46Speaker 1: and I met up with him in the stadiums. I
- 35:48Speaker 1: don't even know if the guy listened to shot. I
- 35:49Speaker 1: don't care. Not The biggest fan of the guy. He's
- 35:50Speaker 1: a pompous Asshole, nice enough to invite me to a game. Um,
- 35:55Speaker 1: while tell me about how amazing his life is. The
- 35:57Speaker 1: whole time when we went to the phillies game together,
- 36:03Speaker 1: I didn't tell you how amazing in my life was.
- 36:05Speaker 1: The whole time. I felt like we had a really
- 36:06Speaker 1: nice conversation. Now it was great. Now you're a humble
- 36:09Speaker 1: you're a sweetheart and you like Philadelphia because you drew
- 36:11Speaker 1: around a convertible and felt the city looked really beautiful
- 36:14Speaker 1: without realizing the city was showing up that night. Yeah,
- 36:17Speaker 1: that's true. The bills look that Mitchell, you want to
- 36:22Speaker 1: jump in here? For a second. You get anything you
- 36:23Speaker 1: want to say about eating wings at halftime with purple
- 36:26Speaker 1: gloves on. Yeah, obviously I was able to enjoy my
- 36:31Speaker 1: wings at halftime after the children went to bed. Slipped
- 36:34Speaker 1: on the late text clubs. I cannot and will not
- 36:36Speaker 1: deal with saucy nails. I had a great time. I
- 36:40Speaker 1: hate the titans have for twenty three years since the
- 36:43Speaker 1: music city miracle. Seeing them unhappy was such a delight.
- 36:47Speaker 1: Steve Levy just absolutely grave dancing with some of his calls,
- 36:51Speaker 1: talking about how the children of Orchard Park got out
- 36:55Speaker 1: of school early, but they got to bed early too
- 36:57Speaker 1: as they signed off, was fantastic stick and I know
- 37:00Speaker 1: a lot of people are sick of hearing the built
- 37:03Speaker 1: shout song. They made that pretty clear. That's why I
- 37:06Speaker 1: made uh the new Josh Allen Alarm as a response
- 37:10Speaker 1: to some of Simon Hunters but I would consider unwarranted
- 37:13Speaker 1: criticism of western New York's greatest natural resource. So I
- 37:17Speaker 1: will play that alarm right now and I will play
- 37:21Speaker 1: it every time the bills win and cover, until we're
- 37:23Speaker 1: left with no listeners at all. Alert here for Josh Allen,
- 37:30Speaker 1: looking for he's he's alarms, he's a football player through
- 37:37Speaker 1: and through. Its R and there you go, John, excuse me, putsdown.
- 37:44Speaker 1: How many quarterbacks have you ever seen? ARDLE? Anyone good?
- 37:48Speaker 1: There's no feeling, no way demands to do something about this. All,
- 38:18Speaker 1: all right, we'll listen. The bills were unbelievable last night.
- 38:22Speaker 1: The Way Josh Allen can throw the ball. It's just
- 38:25Speaker 1: something to behold. There's there's a level of comfort and
- 38:28Speaker 1: confidence where every time he throws it you're just in
- 38:32Speaker 1: wonder where it's gonna end up and you can't stop
- 38:35Speaker 1: saying wow, I love it, except I don't know if
- 38:39Speaker 1: I love them going on the road and being six
- 38:40Speaker 1: and a half point favorites against the Miami Dolphins. Yeah,
- 38:45Speaker 1: and I think exactly what Matt's talking about is just
- 38:48Speaker 1: the bills fans think we don't love the bills. Me
- 38:50Speaker 1: and Chad both said WHO's who we greater? Is Our
- 38:53Speaker 1: best quarterback and football coming to this year? Josh Owen.
- 38:55Speaker 1: We're both Patrick homes. I might have said Patrick homes,
- 38:58Speaker 1: but I said Josh Allen. So again, I love the guy.
- 39:01Speaker 1: I said I thought he was bigger superstar in the
- 39:03Speaker 1: Buffalo American eyes and O J Simpson probably was a
- 39:07Speaker 1: little earlier on that, but I still think he's like
- 39:09Speaker 1: the next big man because it's just in the football aspect.
- 39:12Speaker 1: He's just really likable and an incredible player. I think
- 39:15Speaker 1: was the first time they punted last night was like
- 39:17Speaker 1: midway through the third quarter. Um, he might have been
- 39:20Speaker 1: out of the game by then. I don't even know
- 39:21Speaker 1: because he was so good. I just I feel like
- 39:25Speaker 1: not that I got hate for Josh Allen. My whole
- 39:27Speaker 1: knock on him. The reason I was so much highing
- 39:29Speaker 1: the chief is the chiefs. Josh is Oh and two
- 39:32Speaker 1: in the playoffs against the chiefs. He's three and three
- 39:34Speaker 1: in the playoffs for his career. Nothing against him, it's
- 39:36Speaker 1: just basic stats. It's like Peyton manning took a long
- 39:40Speaker 1: time to get over that Tom Brady Hill. It took
- 39:42Speaker 1: a long time. Little things kept happy and they kept
- 39:45Speaker 1: losing in those battles. So to me, yeah, I'm excited.
- 39:48Speaker 1: I love everything I've seen from the bills. I think
- 39:51Speaker 1: we talked about coming of the year. They have to
- 39:52Speaker 1: get that one seed. Like just watching them at home,
- 39:55Speaker 1: Josh Allen is just a different beast at home and
- 39:58Speaker 1: their defense is different at home. So that that is unbelievable.
- 40:02Speaker 1: Now we have to make a decision. Chat, where you
- 40:04Speaker 1: get Miami coming off one of the craziest wins of
- 40:07Speaker 1: their entire lives at home against the bills. Who you
- 40:11Speaker 1: could say that was a big win for the bills.
- 40:12Speaker 1: It was like to me, that's just another night. To
- 40:14Speaker 1: Josh Allen, like that's nothing to him. We're two on
- 40:17Speaker 1: this Miami team nuts and everything went to them right
- 40:19Speaker 1: this ravens, that's the tone center for the season historically.
- 40:23Speaker 1: I think he's owing three now to against the bills
- 40:27Speaker 1: every time Josh Allen plays the bills. I mean Matt
- 40:29Speaker 1: Mitchell can speak to it. Am I wrong here? Matt is,
- 40:31Speaker 1: he just dominated them his whole early career. That's correct.
- 40:35Speaker 1: Bills fans hate Miami and Josh is dominant of that franchise.
- 40:40Speaker 1: Is a key component to why we love him so
- 40:43Speaker 1: so faithfully. So what do you want to do here? Chat,
- 40:46Speaker 1: because this screams over sharp trap that we're walking into.
- 40:49Speaker 1: But nine at times times I'm betting this number. It's
- 40:52Speaker 1: a divisional dog at home. The bills are coming down
- 40:55Speaker 1: to that hot, humid weather. We know they're gonna be
- 40:58Speaker 1: in the sideline with all the sun on them. This
- 41:00Speaker 1: is when we go against the bills. But it's like
- 41:02Speaker 1: this is a firepower game. Literally, Lamar, he's great. Josh
- 41:06Speaker 1: Allen is the better version of Lamar. You can run
- 41:09Speaker 1: and throw it better than Lamar. We just saw Lamar
- 41:11Speaker 1: did this Miami defense. It feels like we don't have
- 41:14Speaker 1: a choice here, but it's like, can I just take
- 41:16Speaker 1: the over and just be happy there? Do I have
- 41:19Speaker 1: to take Miami because it just feels like we have to, like,
- 41:21Speaker 1: I don't know how we don't take Miami in this position,
- 41:24Speaker 1: we're violating all of our principles if we don't take
- 41:27Speaker 1: this bit of a home dog. Then the team that
- 41:30Speaker 1: they're playing against is the number one public team in
- 41:35Speaker 1: the NFL right now. Totally. You were automatically getting at
- 41:42Speaker 1: least two points of value betting against this team every time.
- 41:45Speaker 1: But it might not matter. Look, that's what I mean.
- 41:48Speaker 1: Like you have to say to yourself, historically, Josh Allen,
- 41:51Speaker 1: you can look at the record as a favorite, we're
- 41:54Speaker 1: better off just taking Miami's money line because if he doesn't,
- 41:56Speaker 1: he doesn't cover. He Kills Teams Josh Allen in these positions. So,
- 41:59Speaker 1: like that's the hardest part. It's like we're literally going
- 42:01Speaker 1: against the guy that kind of breaks the rules. He's
- 42:04Speaker 1: that dominant right now in football. Uh. Here's two great
- 42:08Speaker 1: stats from Evan Abrams that actually you might want to
- 42:11Speaker 1: cover your ears for one of them. Through two games,
- 42:14Speaker 1: the bills are beating their opponents by twenty seven and
- 42:16Speaker 1: a half points per game, covering by twenty two points
- 42:19Speaker 1: per game. In the last twenty years, only four other
- 42:25Speaker 1: teams have won and covered by twenty plus points per
- 42:29Speaker 1: game through two games. Two Thousand Nineteen Patriots, Detroit Lions,
- 42:35Speaker 1: two thousand six San Diego chargers, two thousand six Chicago bears,
- 42:39Speaker 1: who went to the Super Bowl. By the way, none
- 42:43Speaker 1: of those four teams covered in week three at least.
- 42:46Speaker 1: That like doesn't influence us at all for betting, other
- 42:49Speaker 1: than it tells you the line gets inflated by week
- 42:53Speaker 1: three when teams are this dominant. Here's another one. The
- 42:56Speaker 1: bills are the nineteen ninth team in the Super Bowl
- 42:59Speaker 1: era with a scoring margin of plus sixty or better
- 43:03Speaker 1: through two games. None of the previous eight reached the
- 43:09Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and that's what sucks. It's like the public
- 43:14Speaker 1: the books make a killing of public favorite darling teams
- 43:17Speaker 1: that haven't done it before. It's like, I love everything
- 43:21Speaker 1: I've seen from them. It's just historically it does not
- 43:24Speaker 1: work out for the bill is like in these positions.
- 43:26Speaker 1: So that that's crazy number. Again. Another thing I haven't
- 43:29Speaker 1: sent to me that I loved that we talked division
- 43:32Speaker 1: dogs all year. There are four and one to start
- 43:34Speaker 1: the year. Home divisional dogs are four and one. The
- 43:36Speaker 1: only lost me Chad's lonely saints. So it's obviously been
- 43:40Speaker 1: very profitable lost earlier in the season to blindly take
- 43:43Speaker 1: these home dogs. Oh Simon, you know what, we gotta
- 43:48Speaker 1: put a pin in this one. I think this is
- 43:49Speaker 1: on our list. It's gonna be in our big balls,
- 43:51Speaker 1: but I already know it. It's just I'm trying to
- 43:53Speaker 1: fight it here on a Tuesday because every ounce of
- 43:55Speaker 1: my body like I just watched the tape on the
- 43:56Speaker 1: bills before he came on. It's unreal. He is UN
- 44:00Speaker 1: it would be like third and nine and ten. You
- 44:02Speaker 1: knew he was gonna throw for a first down or
- 44:04Speaker 1: he's gonna run for a first down. Like that fourth
- 44:06Speaker 1: that fourth down touchdown the digs. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous
- 44:10Speaker 1: like it is truly ridiculous. How good is? So that's
- 44:12Speaker 1: what I'm just thinking in my head right now. Well, look,
- 44:15Speaker 1: let's let's put a pin in this one. We'll talk
- 44:18Speaker 1: about it on Thursday. It could end up being our
- 44:21Speaker 1: big balls, it could end up being on the list.
- 44:23Speaker 1: We still got to give people an exact decision and
- 44:26Speaker 1: a Simon says. So we got some room to maneuver here.
- 44:30Speaker 1: Putting a pin in the bills Dolphin. UH, bengals minus
- 44:34Speaker 1: four and a half against the jets. Uh, this line
- 44:38Speaker 1: has moved down. I think the look aheadline on this
- 44:40Speaker 1: game was seven. So my theory on this again, I've
- 44:46Speaker 1: already bet the bengals at minus four and a half.
- 44:49Speaker 1: I know jets at home, home underdog, decent sized number,
- 44:54Speaker 1: but that's too much love for the jets, too much
- 44:57Speaker 1: hate for the bengals. This is a really by low,
- 45:01Speaker 1: sell high situation for me, in fact. In fact, exact decision.
- 45:07Speaker 1: Bengals minus four and a half, the choice between the
- 45:10Speaker 1: unthinkable and the impossible decision. Wow, I'm shocked you're taking
- 45:20Speaker 1: this stance just because historically you usually want to take
- 45:23Speaker 1: the jets in this position, because we've seen kind of
- 45:26Speaker 1: what the bengals are like. We talked about it all
- 45:28Speaker 1: last season, all the way through the postseason. They can
- 45:31Speaker 1: muddy the waters, they make games ugly and they would
- 45:34Speaker 1: win by a field goal. What has happened this season Chad?
- 45:38Speaker 1: Their last three games they've played right, including the Super Bowl.
- 45:41Speaker 1: In the first two this year they've lost by a
- 45:43Speaker 1: field goal. So a team that was due for regression
- 45:47Speaker 1: has now had the regression. So I'm a little worried
- 45:50Speaker 1: because we're just playing the numbers here. We're getting four
- 45:52Speaker 1: and a half of the dog against a team that
- 45:53Speaker 1: loves to win by three or lose by three. But
- 45:56Speaker 1: I feel like everything is said true. It's like, are
- 45:59Speaker 1: we gonna FADE JOE BUR own three against the spread
- 46:02Speaker 1: and start your own three, um, because again, this is
- 46:04Speaker 1: probably one of our survivor picks. This is a tough
- 46:06Speaker 1: week for survivor. then either them or Minnesota. In my opinion,
- 46:09Speaker 1: there were the two best spots. But man, that's that's crazy.
- 46:13Speaker 1: You just went right in on a road favorite. You've
- 46:16Speaker 1: been killing it with home dogs in your exact pick.
- 46:19Speaker 1: I'm shocked at this. This I don't even know how
- 46:21Speaker 1: to call it a true turn by Chad. It is
- 46:25Speaker 1: by and low, though, on the bengals or or, by
- 46:28Speaker 1: the way, I just made a sharp right turn into Squaresville.
- 46:35Speaker 1: That's what stuff picking this on a Tuesday, though. It's like,
- 46:38Speaker 1: I kind of get what you're coming from, but I
- 46:39Speaker 1: can see the public being with you. I kind of
- 46:41Speaker 1: get what you're saying here. It's just scared where. The
- 46:43Speaker 1: bengals have just keep showing US exactly what they are,
- 46:46Speaker 1: a team that just wins and grinds games by three.
- 46:49Speaker 1: I think this is their make or break game, I
- 46:51Speaker 1: really do. They're owing to Joe Burrow, has now had
- 46:55Speaker 1: two games. Remember, he's had to play himself into shape
- 46:57Speaker 1: a little bit because he didn't get a full training camp.
- 47:01Speaker 1: The jets don't have the same pass rush that the
- 47:05Speaker 1: bengals faced in the steelers and that they faced in
- 47:07Speaker 1: the cowboys. Um, this is a good, get healthy spot
- 47:11Speaker 1: for the bengals and, like, I know, it goes against
- 47:14Speaker 1: everything I believe in betting against the home dog, but
- 47:18Speaker 1: I am. I am putting more faith in the number
- 47:23Speaker 1: moving and the public perception than I am in the
- 47:27Speaker 1: home dog. That's fair. Again, I'm just a little word.
- 47:30Speaker 1: You're underrating the jets team. Okay, I don't want to
- 47:32Speaker 1: overrate them, because I know what we're talking about. They're
- 47:34Speaker 1: literally down by fourteen and they should have lost to
- 47:37Speaker 1: the browns of Nick Chubbs just filling the ball. But man,
- 47:41Speaker 1: it's it's crazy. This kid Wilson, the receiver for the
- 47:44Speaker 1: jets right now. He is he's something special. That Kudata,
- 47:47Speaker 1: Ohio State. What are you afraid of? Robert Salo, like
- 47:52Speaker 1: he's I'm not keeping not at all. I honestly just
- 47:55Speaker 1: scared to Zach Taylor. It's like I've seen so many
- 47:57Speaker 1: clips now, even that bikes game or the cow his game.
- 48:00Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is like give me help, like give me
- 48:03Speaker 1: some of the chip block. Michael Parsons and Zach Taylor
- 48:06Speaker 1: didn't do it again, Joe Burrow, I'd be so terrified
- 48:09Speaker 1: as a Branglos Fan, like this guy is about the
- 48:11Speaker 1: pull of David Carr on you like he's gonna be
- 48:13Speaker 1: out of the League in five years because his body
- 48:15Speaker 1: is gonna break down. No, no, players haven't sacked more
- 48:17Speaker 1: in the history of football to start their career than
- 48:21Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. And he's missed time. He's still outpacing every
- 48:24Speaker 1: other quarterback. It's it's truly terrified. As a fan of
- 48:27Speaker 1: Joe and a coworker of Joe Burrows, I think he
- 48:33Speaker 1: shows up this week for Colin show. He's a pro.
- 48:38Speaker 1: He's Joe the pro. Uh. The raiders. All right, well,
- 48:42Speaker 1: that's interesting. You still gotta give us a sign and
- 48:44Speaker 1: says the raiders h two point favorites on the road
- 48:48Speaker 1: of Tennessee. Come on, come on. The Autumn win is
- 48:55Speaker 1: a raider pillaging just for fun. I don't know what
- 48:59Speaker 1: to do. Every bounce of my biases take Tennessee, but
- 49:03Speaker 1: the raiders actually have a good talent on offense. Like
- 49:06Speaker 1: I don't know what Tennessee's identity is like. Even Derrick
- 49:10Speaker 1: Henry looks old and broken right, like, yeah, he looked,
- 49:13Speaker 1: didn't is it amazing how there were there were plays
- 49:16Speaker 1: last night where a year ago it would have been
- 49:19Speaker 1: Derrick Henry for fifty breaking four tackles and he was
- 49:22Speaker 1: getting there was nothing intimidating about tackling Derrick Henry. You
- 49:27Speaker 1: get any defensive back or linebacker WHO's coming up playing
- 49:30Speaker 1: the titans and you'll get some you know media person
- 49:35Speaker 1: who can't think of a better question than was Ada,
- 49:37Speaker 1: Dear Henry, and last night I doing a little very hard. Yeah,
- 49:43Speaker 1: I would say even if you checked out the fantasy
- 49:45Speaker 1: show this summer, they're kind of on it right that
- 49:47Speaker 1: the running back after Um, I know Sean Corner was
- 49:52Speaker 1: definitely on it. Talking about this, historical data backs up.
- 49:55Speaker 1: There's a cliff. These guys fall off after hitting that number.
- 49:58Speaker 1: Twenty seven. kind of see and out Derek like. I
- 50:00Speaker 1: don't want to doubt him because it's it's King Henry
- 50:03Speaker 1: and this guy always puts up the numbers, but something's
- 50:06Speaker 1: wrong clear with that Tennessee offense. Um, they look a
- 50:08Speaker 1: little broken right now. So I don't know what to do.
- 50:11Speaker 1: chaving this one. I'd probably passed on it right now,
- 50:13Speaker 1: but I, let's say, my instincts want me to take
- 50:15Speaker 1: the raiders, but I just feel so freaking piste off
- 50:19Speaker 1: about them and I just don't know if their head
- 50:22Speaker 1: coach is good. Like mcdanields might be a freaking idiot.
- 50:25Speaker 1: Like again, there's a reason he failed in Denver starting
- 50:29Speaker 1: his career. And two straight up and two against the
- 50:31Speaker 1: spread with the raiders. I don't know, it's not getting
- 50:33Speaker 1: too much to want to back here. gave the game away.
- 50:36Speaker 1: gave it w away at home had to be excruciating
- 50:40Speaker 1: to watch that from the sideline, because it was as
- 50:42Speaker 1: cruciating to watch it from my fucking couch. Yeah, Jaguars
- 50:47Speaker 1: on the road at the Los Angeles chargers. They are
- 50:51Speaker 1: seven point underdogs right now. This is our pro Joe
- 50:55Speaker 1: Game of the week. Of the bets on the chargers
- 50:59Speaker 1: at seven point. If it's eight, two percent of the
- 51:02Speaker 1: money coming in on the JAG wires. That might be me.
- 51:07Speaker 1: I might be walking ready to do it here, but
- 51:09Speaker 1: it's like you're giving me a banged up Herbert. He's
- 51:12Speaker 1: tough as ship. I know he's gonna play in this
- 51:14Speaker 1: game and if he's not, even better. I already locked
- 51:17Speaker 1: up a jags plus seven. Just grab it, just grab
- 51:21Speaker 1: this number. Ride with the ride with the other pros. Again,
- 51:24Speaker 1: nothing against the chargers. I think on paper they're much
- 51:27Speaker 1: more talented team. The Jaguars are sending at the perfect
- 51:31Speaker 1: time right now. To me, their offense just looked like
- 51:33Speaker 1: it was clicking it every way and their defense looks
- 51:35Speaker 1: really good, like they've made moves on defense that I've
- 51:39Speaker 1: really panned out. I mean they're again their first round
- 51:41Speaker 1: pick from this year looks great and Josh Allen still
- 51:43Speaker 1: the other on the other side at the end. It's
- 51:45Speaker 1: like people forget how dominant at the end and pass
- 51:47Speaker 1: rusher he is as well. So to me I love
- 51:50Speaker 1: this number. Plus seven. I already knew me and she
- 51:52Speaker 1: were probably gonna have this one because we both love
- 51:54Speaker 1: the jags. Um The fact that Herbert's banged up just
- 51:58Speaker 1: gives even more of a reason to take the Jaguars here, right.
- 52:01Speaker 1: We know he's gonna get roughed up a little bit.
- 52:03Speaker 1: He's gonna be feeling it. To me, you're taking a
- 52:06Speaker 1: bang up quarterback at minus seven that they have to have,
- 52:09Speaker 1: you know, much more going on than what the chargers do.
- 52:12Speaker 1: The chargers team. They haven't covered. They haven't earned that seven.
- 52:15Speaker 1: To me, like right, this is more the public being
- 52:17Speaker 1: like coming to the year the Jaguars will look down
- 52:20Speaker 1: on charger. Were supposed to be a super bowl favorite.
- 52:23Speaker 1: I don't really see it that way. I see these
- 52:24Speaker 1: two evenly match teams. So to me, as long as
- 52:27Speaker 1: it's about four and a half, which is why I
- 52:28Speaker 1: have this number at I would take it down to
- 52:30Speaker 1: that number. Alright. So is this a a Simon says moment? No,
- 52:36Speaker 1: I got that coming up, because this one feels like, honestly,
- 52:38Speaker 1: the public will be easy to bet on, like people
- 52:39Speaker 1: are gonna want to bet this Jack's team. So this
- 52:41Speaker 1: is not like again I, like Simon says, to be
- 52:43Speaker 1: a game that no one really wants to bet. All right. Well,
- 52:46Speaker 1: for the record, while you were talking, I went into
- 52:50Speaker 1: Fandel and I played the Jaguars at plus seven. I
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- 54:53Speaker 1: of the buccaneers. This is an interesting one. This is
- 54:57Speaker 1: an interesting game, my friend, packers plus two and a
- 55:01Speaker 1: half of the bucks. The bucks might be the worst
- 55:06Speaker 1: looking to an old team in the NFL right now.
- 55:09Speaker 1: How dare you? And Look. They've just been terrible in
- 55:13Speaker 1: both of their games. The packers did exactly what we
- 55:16Speaker 1: thought they would do in years past when the packers
- 55:20Speaker 1: have played the bucks. This is when Aaron Rodgers gets
- 55:23Speaker 1: most confused, most frustrated and most angry. Minus two Simon says,
- 55:30Speaker 1: bet the bucks do it first bet I made when
- 55:38Speaker 1: I woke up, before I go in and watch that
- 55:40Speaker 1: Queen get putting the ground sucking years. Minus two and
- 55:43Speaker 1: a half loved it. Jumped out on me right away
- 55:46Speaker 1: where it's like people don't really get what this bucks
- 55:49Speaker 1: team is. A great, great defense. This is gonna be
- 55:52Speaker 1: the best defense that our guy at rodgers ever played
- 55:56Speaker 1: against this bucks team, and we're already seen what he's
- 55:57Speaker 1: done against those other defenses. He floundered, especially against the
- 56:01Speaker 1: bucks in Florida. Love this position again. They've changed their
- 56:05Speaker 1: identity Tampa. To me he's just kind of survived these
- 56:09Speaker 1: injuries brady. They're bringing in guys off the street like
- 56:11Speaker 1: Cole Beasley, adding weapons. It kind of shows that Brady
- 56:14Speaker 1: he just wants guys in there and he kind of
- 56:16Speaker 1: just wants this guy drunk back and kind of saw
- 56:18Speaker 1: that in that game, like he doesn't have trust in
- 56:20Speaker 1: these other receivers. So I say that would maybe be
- 56:22Speaker 1: my pause. But I love this defensive matchup against a
- 56:24Speaker 1: Green Bay team that's still figure out their identity. It's like, okay,
- 56:27Speaker 1: all you have to do is take aways, two running
- 56:29Speaker 1: backs and what's Rogers Really gonna do? Again, there's a
- 56:32Speaker 1: couple of times against the bears where he's Wunning to
- 56:34Speaker 1: get a good defense. I don't think he'd be making
- 56:36Speaker 1: those plays Um, and this is to me, when the
- 56:38Speaker 1: best defense is the football a team that I was
- 56:42Speaker 1: in on and Chad was not in on coming into
- 56:44Speaker 1: the season. The fact that he thinks they're they're one
- 56:47Speaker 1: of the worst looking two and oh teams. When we
- 56:48Speaker 1: have the giants who're sitting there too and Oh, it's
- 56:51Speaker 1: just amazing. It's just classic chat. So I love the
- 56:55Speaker 1: books in this position. I think that again we're talking
- 56:58Speaker 1: about numbers, moving base stuff. What happened last week summer
- 57:02Speaker 1: was three and a half. It dropped down to two
- 57:03Speaker 1: and a half. Off the Mike, Emma's news and everything else.
- 57:06Speaker 1: That doesn't really matter. It doesn't really bother me. It's
- 57:08Speaker 1: like I'm back in this team here in Tampa that
- 57:11Speaker 1: can run the ball really well against screen bay team
- 57:13Speaker 1: that really can't stop the run and that it's kind
- 57:15Speaker 1: of become one dimensional offense. I just think you're getting
- 57:18Speaker 1: a great number here, especially the fact that Stampa's first
- 57:22Speaker 1: game at home. I love this position with Brady. The
- 57:26Speaker 1: reason I say they looked like one of the worst
- 57:28Speaker 1: two and oh teams is because there's been no joy
- 57:31Speaker 1: in this team. And and honestly, the giants, while they're
- 57:35Speaker 1: not very good, they're joyful. The bucks just look like
- 57:39Speaker 1: they're completely lacking any joy. Yeah, I mean Brady, you
- 57:43Speaker 1: can just tell he's going through some ship. Like anytime
- 57:45Speaker 1: you see a forty five year old man screaming at
- 57:48Speaker 1: some twenty year old, it just looks weird. It just
- 57:51Speaker 1: looks weird. So I'm with you. Like Brady, it felt
- 57:55Speaker 1: like he was having a mini temper temper tantrum on
- 57:57Speaker 1: the field, like every other play, because this as were
- 58:00Speaker 1: just beating the crap out of them, but I just
- 58:03Speaker 1: I love them in this position. So I understand where
- 58:06Speaker 1: you're coming from. Them looking not that fun, but it's
- 58:10Speaker 1: just it's just kind of the Brady level of like
- 58:12Speaker 1: Super Bowl or bust, and I do believe in them.
- 58:15Speaker 1: Falcons on the road, two point underdogs against the Seattle seahawks.
- 58:22Speaker 1: What the Hell am I gonna do here, Chad? You
- 58:24Speaker 1: already know we want to bet Atlanta like a great
- 58:26Speaker 1: running team against a bad run defense in Seattle with
- 58:29Speaker 1: Geno Smith the quarterback that could not do a single thing,
- 58:32Speaker 1: but we're buying high in Atlanta right now. Yeah, so
- 58:36Speaker 1: I don't know what to do with this one. Like
- 58:37Speaker 1: I really wanted to grab it. It was, I think,
- 58:39Speaker 1: three interesting is back up. That means some pro money
- 58:42Speaker 1: must came in on the Seahawks, because to me I
- 58:45Speaker 1: don't see any public betting seahawks. It's gonna be probably
- 58:49Speaker 1: a pros versus shows game. I see the pros probably
- 58:51Speaker 1: back in the sea seahawks at home and the public
- 58:54Speaker 1: taking uh, Atlanta. I'm I'm torn here because I like Atlanta.
- 58:59Speaker 1: I just love they're all offense. I love their run
- 59:01Speaker 1: scheme and I think they have more playmakers on defense
- 59:03Speaker 1: and the SEAHAWKS team does. So this is the rare
- 59:06Speaker 1: time I'll be with the public, but I can't be
- 59:08Speaker 1: talked out of I'll be on Atlanta in this game.
- 59:12Speaker 1: I have different feelings about Atlanta than you do. I
- 59:14Speaker 1: don't think Arthur Smith right now is a good enough
- 59:17Speaker 1: coach to win these Games, and we're essentially saying it
- 59:22Speaker 1: a number this short. I like that. I like the
- 59:24Speaker 1: Falcons is big dogs. A number this short, we're essentially saying, hey,
- 59:28Speaker 1: Marcus Mariotta, Arthur Smith, go on the road to Seattle
- 59:33Speaker 1: in a game at that where they're going to feel
- 59:37Speaker 1: desperate and try to beat the seahawks. Don't. Doesn't phaze me.
- 59:43Speaker 1: I just think it's see how sucks. I really do
- 59:45Speaker 1: like that's why I was so big on the point
- 59:47Speaker 1: Ander's last week. I wish I didn't buckle on that.
- 59:50Speaker 1: It was just like this team is not good. They
- 59:53Speaker 1: got so many good breaks and bounces for them against
- 59:55Speaker 1: that Denver team, where I'm with you in Atlanta, like
- 59:59Speaker 1: I don't really trust art or Smith either, and he
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: says some stupid ship as pressors where I'm like rolling
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: my eyes at the Guy, but I love the run scheme.
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: He's running with this team like he's literally using Mariana strengths.
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: And I know people are losing their minds about Kyle Pitts.
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: It's like, what do you want Mary to do? Kyle
- 1:00:15Speaker 1: Pitts is getting double teams, so he's going to drake London.
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: It's just he's a simple quarterback and that's a simple play.
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: So I exactly understand where Chad's coming from. So I
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: know this won't be one of our five, but I'm
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: just having a tough time talk to myself out of
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: the Atlanta team. I'm sucked in. I just love their
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: scheme and I love this matchup for them. All right,
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: I could be talked into it right now. By the way,
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: we've got probably four games that we definitely like, then
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: a whole list of game we're waiting to see some
- 1:00:43Speaker 1: action on. I mean it is Tuesday, like there's there's
- 1:00:46Speaker 1: a bunch of injuries right now. It is tough to
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: just dive in on some of these games. Let me
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: ask you a question. Have you bet the commanders at
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: plus six and a half yet? No, because I'm open
- 1:00:55Speaker 1: a seven. Like I I was hoping for a seven
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: just because of I woke up the this morning. That
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: was the first thing I checked after the eagles one
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: and it's just not there. So maybe the pros did
- 1:01:05Speaker 1: bet it when it got to seven. I just haven't
- 1:01:06Speaker 1: seen a seven yet. Um. But again, I don't hate
- 1:01:09Speaker 1: at six and a half either, like that's good value.
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: It's just if I'm gonna bet a decent on the money,
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: I want to get the best number. Yeah, UH, rams
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: on the road at the cardinals. Resurgent, cardinals, comeback, cardinals.
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: The rams look like crap. They could have lost that game.
- 1:01:26Speaker 1: Three and a half point road favorites. I don't know, man,
- 1:01:30Speaker 1: you feel like you bet the cardinals here. Yeah, we'll
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: hold our nose and we'll bet it. Like again, there's, there's.
- 1:01:35Speaker 1: We could break this down this game, but like, I
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: don't really know what the breakdown is. I don't really
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: know what I'm getting with Kingsberry, like the guy just
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: looks lost and then Kyler Murray just goes video game
- 1:01:44Speaker 1: mode and wins Games. It's like I saw some crazy
- 1:01:47Speaker 1: stad he ran over eighty yards um on that two
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: point convergon. I love that. So don't really have it's
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: probably more of I don't have faith in this rams
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: team that they don't have a running back to really
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: help them milk the clock away. So getting a three
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: and a half point team and the cardinals, that we've
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: already seen, can score fast when they need to and
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: they can put points up in a comeback position. I'll
- 1:02:10Speaker 1: take the three and a half. But yeah, don't this
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: won't be one of our five. I just don't have
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: confidence in either of these teams right now. NOPE, Nope,
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: not at all. Forty niners visiting the broncos. This is
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: the Sunday night game. Well, I'll get Jimmy g against
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. Part of me feels like had a better
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: chance with Jimmy g than they do with Trade Lance.
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: I know what I'm getting here. Yeah, but my my
- 1:02:35Speaker 1: only argument against is the upsides. Cats. You know exactly
- 1:02:38Speaker 1: what we're getting from Jimmy where you didn't know you're
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: gonna get from track. Yeah, you know the ceiling right now? Yes,
- 1:02:43Speaker 1: and we've seen Jimmy ceiling, and his ceiling is he's
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: up ten in an NFC championship game and he has
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: back to back turn either to turnover in a three
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: and out or a three out then a turnover against
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: that rams team and he couldn't get it back. He
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: saw him the Super Bowl against the chiefs. You had
- 1:02:57Speaker 1: a lead, he gave the lead away. It's just I'm
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: just bummed out because I did have high hopes for
- 1:03:02Speaker 1: the point n and Trey Lance. It's Prout for that
- 1:03:05Speaker 1: fan base now like again, it's fun Jimmy's backs. At
- 1:03:08Speaker 1: least you have a chance this year. But it's another
- 1:03:10Speaker 1: year wasted on a great young talent prospect. And there's
- 1:03:14Speaker 1: built in excuses. Right, he's only played one game, right,
- 1:03:18Speaker 1: and that covid season and North Dakota came the league,
- 1:03:20Speaker 1: played in two games and then this year played in
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: a game and a half. It's just it's a nightmare
- 1:03:25Speaker 1: start for your rookie, your second year quarterback with Trey Lance.
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: So I'm with you this season. I'd be happy again
- 1:03:32Speaker 1: because it's like Jimmy, you know exactly where you're getting
- 1:03:34Speaker 1: and this team is built to win right now, but
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: just thinks where. It's like exciting upside of the four team.
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: So I don't know. Looking at this matchup, I loved
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: like everyone else, I love the four and ninners. I
- 1:03:45Speaker 1: think Nathaniel Hackett, holy sh it, man, like this is
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: why I can never be a GM r owner. He
- 1:03:51Speaker 1: would have been fired as soon as that game was over.
- 1:03:54Speaker 1: I would not have let him back in the locker room.
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: I literally would have went on down the field and
- 1:03:57Speaker 1: fired him and just being like, I'm sure you're great offensively,
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: you don't know how to manage clock, you're not how
- 1:04:02Speaker 1: to manage your time outs and you're not now to
- 1:04:04Speaker 1: manage the red zone. They have not scored a red
- 1:04:06Speaker 1: Joe in touchdown yet the broncos and they played Seattle
- 1:04:10Speaker 1: and Houston. Holy Sh it. So yeah, this guy might
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: make leaps and bounds this week and I'll feel like
- 1:04:16Speaker 1: a genius back in this Denver team in this position.
- 1:04:18Speaker 1: But it's like no logical reason other than I think
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: I'm getting a good number on Denver as a home
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: dog in this position. But if you're betting the forty nine,
- 1:04:28Speaker 1: I think that's probably a good bet too. It's just
- 1:04:29Speaker 1: like there's no real field to this game because again,
- 1:04:32Speaker 1: I was already down on Russell Wilson coming into this year.
- 1:04:35Speaker 1: Now that I've watched his head coach in two games
- 1:04:38Speaker 1: just an absolute train wreck, like this Denver team might
- 1:04:40Speaker 1: be worse than I thought. So I don't know what
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: the hell to do with it. Like every ounce of
- 1:04:44Speaker 1: my body is like, just take the home team in
- 1:04:46Speaker 1: a primetime game here. But I get it. If you're
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: getting under three with a better team, the forty niners,
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: I really can't knock it. If that's what you want
- 1:04:53Speaker 1: to go chat. I don't want. I don't want to
- 1:04:55Speaker 1: touch this game. You know what I want to do
- 1:04:57Speaker 1: with this game? I want to go to sleep at
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: eight thirty. You can bet the under, then just bet
- 1:05:02Speaker 1: the under and go to sleep. Cowboys on the road
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: at the giants. Two and no. Giants looking like one
- 1:05:20Speaker 1: of the best two and no teams in the NFL.
- 1:05:22Speaker 1: Cowboys led by Cooper rush and a defense that is spirited.
- 1:05:26Speaker 1: Two and a half point dogs. Dallas cowboys. Number moved.
- 1:05:30Speaker 1: Was it four? Oh, real, and it's crazy to coming
- 1:05:34Speaker 1: into this week right now. The unders in prime time
- 1:05:36Speaker 1: or six and one, and I'm on three. Another three
- 1:05:39Speaker 1: unders in prime time. Like I liked under in this
- 1:05:41Speaker 1: game too. I like the under in Sunday night. I
- 1:05:43Speaker 1: like the under on Thursday's man. Hopefully I don't get
- 1:05:47Speaker 1: caught because the unders have been going to us, but
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: this just lines up as such bad offenses, all these
- 1:05:52Speaker 1: teams where the defenses are the strongest unit, like the
- 1:05:55Speaker 1: Giants Defensive Front. UH, looked really against Baker, like they
- 1:05:59Speaker 1: put him in a lot of pressure spots. Michael Parsons,
- 1:06:02Speaker 1: I mean I can say this now not feel like
- 1:06:04Speaker 1: a complete idiot. He's gotta be the Best Yend we've
- 1:06:06Speaker 1: seen since LD like Lawrence Taylor. We've never seen anyone
- 1:06:10Speaker 1: like Lawrence Taylor until, I think, Michael Parsons, like the
- 1:06:12Speaker 1: stuff he does weekly. Teams looked a game playing around
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: him now because they know this is his second year.
- 1:06:18Speaker 1: Guy Does Not stop man like just through two weeks.
- 1:06:21Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. So I kind of like New York here,
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: Fading Cooper rush off a win. Um. You can get
- 1:06:28Speaker 1: two and a half at certain books. It's a great number. Again.
- 1:06:31Speaker 1: Opened up four down to two and a half. Now
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: I'm gonna home team that everyone feels like me and
- 1:06:35Speaker 1: each other, just like you know. The giants are the
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: fraudist too. And Oh, Daniel Jones is making these plays
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: like that. Literally, a third down he made this crazy
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: run cut up the field to get them to ice
- 1:06:47Speaker 1: to clock. I'm looking for. That was kind of place
- 1:06:49Speaker 1: like that is A. All right, this Gud has some Moxie.
- 1:06:52Speaker 1: We're last year I don't think they scored even a
- 1:06:55Speaker 1: field goal in the final two minutes. Like it's just
- 1:06:57Speaker 1: a total flip this year where they're actually small and
- 1:07:00Speaker 1: maybe can manage at the end of the game, but
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: they didn't had that last year. So I guess this
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: is more of a fade on the cowboys, coming off
- 1:07:07Speaker 1: the big win with Cooper Russia quarterback, now going on
- 1:07:09Speaker 1: the road. Um, but it's honestly, I just have more
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: faith in this giants team right now. Um, where the
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: cowboys again? That was a great win against the bengals.
- 1:07:19Speaker 1: I think that was more about the bengals kind of
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: losing that game than the cowboys. Where in this position here.
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: I just think the cowboys defense is really gonna shut
- 1:07:26Speaker 1: down this, I mean I should say giants defense will
- 1:07:28Speaker 1: shut down this cowboys offense. Yeah, UH, right now we're
- 1:07:36Speaker 1: looking at the paths, plus three colts, plus seven bikes,
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: minus six bucks, minus two. I think those are the
- 1:07:45Speaker 1: four we felt most confident about. The only one that's
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: a question mark is pending an injury assessment for the colts,
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: but we will examine on Thursday. Basically, every their game.
- 1:08:00Speaker 1: Panthers plus three, commanders, plus six, uh and a half,
- 1:08:04Speaker 1: dolphins plus six and a half, Jacks plus seven. Uh.
- 1:08:07Speaker 1: Why wouldn't we put the jags on our list right now?
- 1:08:10Speaker 1: I don't hate it again because, like the Patriots one again,
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: it's not just a trend play. But belichick is a
- 1:08:16Speaker 1: home dog. I think he's like fifteen and four, fifteen
- 1:08:18Speaker 1: and five as a home dog in this position. So
- 1:08:20Speaker 1: it's like there's a bunch of little things we'll have
- 1:08:22Speaker 1: on Thursday. That's we'll just reaffirm our positions. But yeah,
- 1:08:26Speaker 1: right now I would not mind having the Jackson is
- 1:08:28Speaker 1: our fifth one. I just love that number at seven. Yeah,
- 1:08:30Speaker 1: Jack's plus seven, and then Falcons plus two, cards, plus four, giants,
- 1:08:34Speaker 1: minus two and a half. Look, none of them are ugly.
- 1:08:37Speaker 1: None of them speak to me the way that the
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: game's last week spoke to me. The foxhold is the
- 1:08:44Speaker 1: VIKES minus six. The exact decision is bengals minus four
- 1:08:49Speaker 1: and a half and the Simon says, is bucks minus two. Yeah,
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: I would say our grossest play, especially if you, if
- 1:08:56Speaker 1: you love betting these like again, if you bet the
- 1:08:58Speaker 1: jets with us last week, you took the alboys with us.
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: You have to take the colts. That's just it's one
- 1:09:04Speaker 1: of those auto plays. But again, I want you to
- 1:09:06Speaker 1: get that seven because to me that's a great number.
- 1:09:08Speaker 1: But I think we'll revisit it. Who who do you
- 1:09:11Speaker 1: think are you? I mean obviously like the bengals. Is that?
- 1:09:14Speaker 1: Is that the move? Like we burned, we burned our
- 1:09:16Speaker 1: Tuesday guys with the Bengals last week. But to me
- 1:09:20Speaker 1: it's either the bengals are the Vikings Um, but Detroit
- 1:09:23Speaker 1: scares me a little bit. Where right, like the bengals
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: are just so desperate. How do how do they lose
- 1:09:28Speaker 1: this one? I think it's the bengals. I'll put that in.
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: Then we're talking about survivor. It doesn't feel as easy
- 1:09:36Speaker 1: as week one or week two right now. Oh really,
- 1:09:39Speaker 1: this is this felt really easy. I just I always
- 1:09:41Speaker 1: think back, like when we're in here a week eight,
- 1:09:43Speaker 1: nine and ten, especially if you come off a two
- 1:09:45Speaker 1: and three, one and four a week. Those are the
- 1:09:48Speaker 1: tough ones because I'm just, Oh man, every line looks
- 1:09:51Speaker 1: gross where this week. Like even when I woke up
- 1:09:53Speaker 1: this morning, I like immediately saw what Chad I was
- 1:09:56Speaker 1: talking about. That cold s number. I was like, Oh man,
- 1:09:59Speaker 1: me and me and chat both gonna love that cold thumber.
- 1:10:01Speaker 1: Oh my God, loved it, loved it. So, wait, what
- 1:10:05Speaker 1: bets have you made right now that are just sides?
- 1:10:08Speaker 1: Because I've made so far? UH, Tampa minus two, Jack
- 1:10:15Speaker 1: minus plus seven, Indie plus seven, Cincinnati minus four and
- 1:10:19Speaker 1: a half, Pittsburgh plus five and a half, then new Pittsburgh,
- 1:10:22Speaker 1: then do bengals. Uh that that the Patriots right when
- 1:10:25Speaker 1: I saw the three, and I took that giants at
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: minus two and a half just in case it goes
- 1:10:30Speaker 1: up the three. So again, early weeks like this, people
- 1:10:33Speaker 1: I can barely get a grand down, like it's just books.
- 1:10:36Speaker 1: Are just sending out fuelers Um on certain games. But
- 1:10:40Speaker 1: that's why I like my thirds. That can really start
- 1:10:41Speaker 1: figuring out my my bigger bets. Alright, Sannah, I think
- 1:10:46Speaker 1: we've done at all. I think we've done all we
- 1:10:48Speaker 1: can do here. Simon Hunter, for Simon Hunter, for Matt Mitchell,
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