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Buffalo Bills vs Chicago Bears Preseason Recap - Risers, Fallers, & More | DC · Disguised Coverage

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  Speaker 1: It's thirty eight.
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  Speaker 4: Jacksonville's perfect record on the line right here.
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  Speaker 1: by Greg thomp Satt. We're both pretty miserable right now
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  Speaker 1: because it's late on a Sun and that game sucked.
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  Speaker 1: But we're going to talk about Bill's Bears preseason. We two, Greg,
• 2:04
  Speaker 1: How you feeling, how's it going, What's up.
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  Speaker 4: At no point in the ten years I've been associated
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  Speaker 4: with Cover One have I been more upset with myself than.
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  Speaker 2: I offered to take part in the show than I was.
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  Speaker 4: Two drives into this game. I joked about it and
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  Speaker 4: they're like immediately I was like.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, they don't care. Just immediately into the game, I
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  Speaker 2: was like, oh, oh no.
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  Speaker 4: It was you know, I guess there are some takeaways
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  Speaker 4: that we'll get to, but this was just immediate regret.
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  Speaker 2: I immediately regret this decision.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah that was.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that game sucked like the time Buffalo drafted Boogie
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  Speaker 1: Bashing over Creed Humphrey. These are the comments I expect,
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  Speaker 1: and I like, yeah, that it was. I told you offline.
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  Speaker 1: I personally played myself for this because I I thought
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  Speaker 1: this game.
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  Speaker 3: Was on Saturday night and not a Sunday night.
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  Speaker 1: So coming in like once I realized that like midweek,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, man, like that sucks because it
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  Speaker 1: can be laid on it sun.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, it'll be fine.
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  Speaker 1: And then as I got like closer, I said it
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  Speaker 1: like into myself in my head, I was like, the
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  Speaker 1: only way it'll be worse is that the Bills just
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  Speaker 1: got like blown out and just got completely shellacked.
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  Speaker 3: And that is exactly what happened.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was thanks to Aaron Aaron at the Super
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  Speaker 1: Jet Sympathy tip.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Man, it was just so we a little peek behind
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  Speaker 1: the curtain. Greg and I were gonna, we're it's so
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  Speaker 1: foolish to say a hindsight. We're gonna just go position
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  Speaker 1: by position and talk through like risers follers, like this
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  Speaker 1: guy look good, like, oh, do you think he made
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  Speaker 1: a push for the roster? And not even just because
• 3:52
  Speaker 1: the game was bad. I genuinely oh, and I gotta watch.
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  Speaker 3: The tape on it. I but forget if that for now.
• 4:00
  Speaker 1: It's table that I genuinely like, I felt like nothing
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  Speaker 1: happened while also horrible things were happening. It was very
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  Speaker 1: I just found myself just like watching it and almost
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if.
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  Speaker 3: I like, I.
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  Speaker 1: Just my eyes glazed over, but I was just like
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  Speaker 1: I felt like I was just there experiencing this game
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  Speaker 1: or like having it happened to me and nothing was
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  Speaker 1: registering because it was just so.
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  Speaker 3: Bad or lacks. I don't know if it was the
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  Speaker 3: lack of like you mentioned, like maybe they don't.
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  Speaker 1: Care, or just because of how much the Bears are
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  Speaker 1: really putting boots to ass in this game. But I
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  Speaker 1: just found myself very much like very just from yeah,
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  Speaker 1: about maybe five six minutes in and that I just
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  Speaker 1: didn't anticipate that and it hit me hard.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think obviously we know McDermott has shared
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  Speaker 4: that for our teams specifically, we don't game plan, they
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  Speaker 4: don't go in, they're not going to show anything, and
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  Speaker 4: it's pre early individual valuation, like they're testing effort, they're
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  Speaker 4: testing and checking for you know, individual performance, and that's.
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  Speaker 2: What I look for as well.
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  Speaker 4: Like, hey, I matter of fact, I am much better
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  Speaker 4: about my watching habits in the preseason the way that
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  Speaker 4: I rewatch the game where in real time, like I'm
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  Speaker 4: one hundred percent like ninety nine percent of fans where
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  Speaker 4: I just watch the ball and I'm watching the outcomes
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  Speaker 4: of the play. And in preseason, I don't like I watch,
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  Speaker 4: like I pick out a couple of players and guy
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  Speaker 4: who's in on this snap that I care about, and
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  Speaker 4: I watch some of those guys and I'll just watch
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  Speaker 4: those players on the snap. And in preseason, I'll rewind
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  Speaker 4: more often and then catch up during commercials because I
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  Speaker 4: don't care. I'm not worried about getting some like urgent
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  Speaker 4: alert text or something like that that's going to ruin
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  Speaker 4: the game for me. So like that's always been my
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  Speaker 4: habit in the preseason, like I just I'll watch along
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  Speaker 4: and I don't care if I don't finish exactly in
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  Speaker 4: time or.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever it may be.
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  Speaker 4: And like even in this game, that's what my plan
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  Speaker 4: was again, same idea, and it you know, we'll talk
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  Speaker 4: about a couple like there were some flashes. It wasn't
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  Speaker 4: literally zero. There's not a lot, but it wasn't literally zero.
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  Speaker 4: Even the guys that flash. And I think you'll see
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  Speaker 4: the names whatever it maybe Shaver's Hancock, Ian Walker, Michael Hoy,
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  Speaker 4: Like there'll be a handful of guys like, oh cool,
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  Speaker 4: that was a nice legitimately nice play. Maybe besides hoy
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  Speaker 4: I don't. I don't specifically remember anything negative that Hoyt did.
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  Speaker 4: All the rest of those guys, there were also multiple
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  Speaker 4: plays where I was like, well, that's not good, that's
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  Speaker 4: not It was also not great, So you know, again,
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  Speaker 4: I think the important part is I don't I don't
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  Speaker 4: think we had any serious injuries. Jordan Hancock is the
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  Speaker 4: only one that obviously we need to see with the shoulder.
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  Speaker 4: Hopefully that was just precautionary and a normal stinger and
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  Speaker 4: regular game he probably would have been available to go
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  Speaker 4: back in uh pending that and assuming that wasn't something
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  Speaker 4: freakishly unlucky or stupid.
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  Speaker 2: Because I like Jordan Hancock.
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  Speaker 4: I'm excited about his his potential and you know, very
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  Speaker 4: obvious roster spot, but potential role beyond there. The biggest
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  Speaker 4: takeaway was nobody got hurt, nothing dumb happened, and you
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  Speaker 4: can just you know, uh flush this game and move
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  Speaker 4: on and just use the men in black eraser PEP
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  Speaker 4: and move on and never have to think about this
• 7:37
  Speaker 4: game ever ever again. And I planned to do that
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  Speaker 4: the moment we stopped recording here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna forget about it end. I would realize
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  Speaker 3: at some point tomorrow when I have to go.
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  Speaker 2: Back and watch, you can forget Wednesday.
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  Speaker 3: Flush it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's funny, you know you mentioning kind of
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  Speaker 1: like how you consume the game preseason versus regular season.
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  Speaker 1: It's it makes me more upset because it like, it
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  Speaker 1: takes a lot for me to tap out of a game,
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  Speaker 1: because I value like not even just the Bills, but
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: for football in general, the scheme of it, Like the
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  Speaker 1: Ravens kicking the hell out of the Bills last year.
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  Speaker 3: The Ravens were doing a lot of cool stuff in
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  Speaker 3: that game.
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  Speaker 1: So I was still in the fourth quarter, like they're
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  Speaker 1: doing some good stuff and I could find something to enjoy.
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  Speaker 1: And preseason, you know this, I go super heavy into
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  Speaker 1: college football in the draft, So there could be some
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  Speaker 1: seventh round guy who's a fifth stringer and I'm locked
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  Speaker 1: into the fourth quarter for the Bills or for anybody.
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  Speaker 3: Being like, well, I want to see this guy.
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  Speaker 1: It takes a lot for me to tap out of
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  Speaker 1: a game, especially a Bills game. And I was tapped
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  Speaker 1: out like midway through the second quarter. I was just like,
• 8:42
  Speaker 1: I don't want to do this anymore, Like this is
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  Speaker 1: like give the ball to Frank or seventy five times,
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  Speaker 1: let's bleed the clock and go home, Like I don't
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  Speaker 1: I think the.
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  Speaker 3: Last moment I don't remember.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it was in the second quarter, Shavers got opened
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  Speaker 1: when the bills were going left or right and he
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  Speaker 1: beat the corner at the bottom of the screen and
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  Speaker 1: Mike White missed him, and that was the last time
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: in the game. I was like, oh, and from then on,
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  Speaker 1: I had no I had nothing emotional tied to that
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  Speaker 1: game after that.
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  Speaker 2: So I had a moment that I'm not proud of.
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  Speaker 4: And it was in the fourth quarter and one of
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  Speaker 4: the up Bear's guy got hurt and in the moment,
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  Speaker 4: you didn't know how serious it was. And the immediate
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  Speaker 4: flash in my mind was, oh my god, maybe they'll
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  Speaker 4: do what the Lions and the Falcons did. And I
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  Speaker 4: swear to God, like I swear like I'm not proud
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  Speaker 4: of the fact that that was My immediate thought was,
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  Speaker 4: Oh my god, maybe they'll just a lot of clock
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  Speaker 4: run out and end this. That was just my immediate,
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  Speaker 4: like intrusive thought. Dn't to the moment, was like, oh
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  Speaker 4: my god, maybe they'll just let the clock run out
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  Speaker 4: and this will be over.
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  Speaker 3: That's fair.
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  Speaker 1: That's how mad it was, that's how bad. Oh we
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  Speaker 1: got another super chat. Let me pull this everything of
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  Speaker 1: Reffer being here and we can enjoy.
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  Speaker 2: Bless you with the chet.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: My try at a positive spin is talk about the
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  Speaker 1: perfect wake up call for McDermott to rile with the
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  Speaker 1: team without having the consequences of a regular game.
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  Speaker 3: I actually think it's a very fair thought.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I literally had the exact same thought. I so
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  Speaker 4: this is I think it's a brilliant fun because obviously
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  Speaker 4: I had it, So it's obviously brilliant.
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  Speaker 2: I swear to God.
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  Speaker 4: As a watching I was like, well, this is gonna
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  Speaker 4: suck to watch this game with McDermott.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: He is going to just lambase the crap out of
• 10:32
  Speaker 4: these guys watching this.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't think that there was.
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  Speaker 4: I want to I want to differentiate between poor play
• 10:43
  Speaker 4: and levels that were inequal for healthy portions of this
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  Speaker 4: with starters for one team in backups for another.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to say Ben Johnson game planned.
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  Speaker 4: He didn't game plan for the Bills, Like, that's not
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  Speaker 4: I don't think that's the case. I think he showed
• 11:00
  Speaker 4: a little bit more. I think this was more of
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  Speaker 4: a tune up of his style and.
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  Speaker 2: Play call in.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think we called much of anything of what
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  Speaker 4: we're going to be doing, So I think there are
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  Speaker 4: some things there where you know, there are reasons. So
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  Speaker 4: I'm not going to say that there was a lack
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  Speaker 4: of effort. I don't think that's going to be What
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  Speaker 4: comes up is the guys weren't trying on the field
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  Speaker 4: because those guys are trying to make roster or a role.
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  Speaker 4: But I think there's going to be a lot of
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  Speaker 4: Jordan Hancock. Let's use him as the initial stock up
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  Speaker 4: stock down like he had into some nice flashes, really
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  Speaker 4: nice run run Blitz came in, made a nice tackle
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  Speaker 4: for a loss, had a couple other flashes where you
• 11:42
  Speaker 4: see him moving quickly using the closing speed. Also you know,
• 11:47
  Speaker 4: obviously stuck out because Greg Wilson highlighted it like seven
• 11:50
  Speaker 4: times because of the receipt of the blocking receiver for there,
• 11:53
  Speaker 4: but had multiple plays where he just got plowed.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the one where they bring him in motion and then
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: they run just crushes him and I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: that it's gonna be that kind of night.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I think Dean Walker was another one.
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  Speaker 4: It was really funny because at the if anybody goes
• 12:12
  Speaker 4: back and looks at the time stamps, you'll see like
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  Speaker 4: a group of people get excited about Dan Walker because
• 12:17
  Speaker 4: he had a really nice play. You know Eric had
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  Speaker 4: talked about I think he was. He had a wide
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  Speaker 4: lignement kind of looped inside. You get that momentum going
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  Speaker 4: with that enormous body he and he ends up taking
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  Speaker 4: like the guard and the chipping running back and kind
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  Speaker 4: of like bowling through both of that guard balls down.
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  Speaker 3: They just length puts that length of the huge paw.
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  Speaker 4: Out there causes what initially live looked like the fumble
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  Speaker 4: that doing Carter took Pat for a touchdown, Like that
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  Speaker 4: was his play. If you go back and look at
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  Speaker 4: the time stamps, Like thirty seconds before that, Anthony had
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  Speaker 4: a tweet about, oh, is it not good if our
• 12:54
  Speaker 4: interior d line's getting blown off the ball and neither.
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  Speaker 2: Of our edges are setting the edge.
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  Speaker 4: And it's because you know, without that play, him and
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  Speaker 4: Sanders didn't play gray Like again, I saw a couple
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  Speaker 4: flashes from TG Sanders where he was disruptive and made
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  Speaker 4: some plays and neither of them are expected to be
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  Speaker 4: you know that those were like seventy five maybe eighty
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  Speaker 4: percent snap guys. So they played a ton or like long,
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  Speaker 4: long stretches of this game, and neither of them are
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  Speaker 4: expected to be like stout run defenders for second down
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  Speaker 4: guys that are doing that. They're going to be contributing
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  Speaker 4: pass rush guys who play, and then we'll see what
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  Speaker 4: they develop into later in their career. So like that's
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  Speaker 4: not even a concern for me that they weren't great
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  Speaker 4: in that role tonight. But they weren't. They were not
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  Speaker 4: great in that role. So even like the flashes that did,
• 13:45
  Speaker 4: both Dean Walker and TJ. Sanders had some flashes, they
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  Speaker 4: also had some pretty horrendous plays. I thank god for
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  Speaker 4: Lanna Jackson that he finally had a couple decent plays
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  Speaker 4: after like only negative plays in the first game, and
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  Speaker 4: even him some stuff where and keep the edge. Some
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  Speaker 4: weird diving plays were you know, giving up longer yardage,
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  Speaker 4: not that whole guy's making a seut tackle. So just
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  Speaker 4: in general, so many like that where even the guys
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  Speaker 4: who had flashes, there was still they had plenty of negatives.
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Sanders is a good one I think to start
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  Speaker 1: with because it dives into we're gonna get to safety
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  Speaker 1: after I know that's a big one already in the
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: comments where I was I going to talk about safety,
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: and again, this is going to be more of a
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: setup going position by position. We have several major takeaways
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  Speaker 1: we're going to talk about that. I think we'll kind
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: of just mesh this into the run defense piece. I
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: want to I want to make sure I preface this
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  Speaker 1: by saying what I've been saying all off season, because
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: I haven't talked about it so much because my biggest
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: concern for the Bills going into this year was, you know,
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: their ability to not get blown off the ball on
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  Speaker 1: the interior.
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was a.
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  Speaker 1: Concern last year that was kind of hidden because game
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  Speaker 1: script was largely in the bills favor teams got away
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  Speaker 1: from the run. If teams didn't get away from the run,
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: the way the Bills stopped the run is they would
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: just gap out what they did against the Lions, where hey,
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: we're gonna put eight or nine guys in the box,
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  Speaker 1: you're not gonna run the ball. We're gonna try and
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: stop you enough with that, and then we're gonna try
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  Speaker 1: and go up twenty one to three and you're not
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  Speaker 1: gonna be able to run the ball.
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  Speaker 3: Like that's that's their best run defense.
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  Speaker 1: If it was purely like guy and a guy had
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  Speaker 1: on a hat or lighter neutral boxes, they were not
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: in good shape. That's part of the reason why I
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: wanted Tyler Williams, while I was even willing to settle for,
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: you know, for Collins from Texas, even though he offers
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  Speaker 1: nothing as a rusher. But I don't think we're gonna
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: get an answer on that run defense piece even early
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  Speaker 1: in the regular season. We got to see this team
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  Speaker 1: fill out. We have to see Larryogan, Joey come back,
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  Speaker 1: Michael Hoy, all of that. So I knew we weren't
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: gonna get an answer until deep into the regular season.
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  Speaker 1: Not deep, but good, a good chunk into the regular season.
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  Speaker 1: You need proper sample size. No, Baltimore doesn't count because
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: it's Week one, but also they're a unicorn.
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  Speaker 3: They run all over everyone. Cool, whatever, But tonight still
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  Speaker 3: didn't make me feel good.
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  Speaker 1: Like my concerns to your point, were, they're like, what
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  Speaker 1: I'm afraid of with TJ. Sanders, for example, is kind
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  Speaker 1: of what we saw tonight. He had off the top
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  Speaker 1: of my head, two or three really good pressures where
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: he beat his man similar to what we saw last
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  Speaker 1: week hand Uson's penetration. He's in there, good pass rush stuff,
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  Speaker 1: but he got knocked around on the line of scrimmage, vertically, horizontally.
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  Speaker 1: He was getting pushed around, and that that's my biggest concern.
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  Speaker 1: Now again, if you're still sweet as a rusher, that
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  Speaker 1: you're still offering something. And I still think that's an
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  Speaker 1: improvement versus last year because Austin Johnson and Dwayne Carter
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  Speaker 1: didn't give you either of those things. They gave you
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  Speaker 1: pretty much a net negative for both. So Sanders can
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  Speaker 1: just be a plus rusher. That's still a positive. But
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  Speaker 1: him getting pushed around.
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  Speaker 3: A bit in the run was concerning for me. Dion Walker,
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  Speaker 3: I kind of expect.
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  Speaker 1: It just because he's I know a lot of people
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: talked about the back issue.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: The man is massive.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: He's never gonna be the low man, and low man wins.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough for him to anchor down and
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: be stout and drop the knigh verse double teams. And
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: his game is penetration based. It is more of a rusher.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: He's at best, like you alluded to with Eric's sweet
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: and what we've talked about in the film room broken down.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: He's arguably at his best the wider he gets on
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: the defensive line, like yeah, you put him by like
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: like a four eye on the inside shoulder of an
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: offensive tackle.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: That's where he's best.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: But he's into the defensive tackle role here and then,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: like Ed Oliver is undersized. I don't want him battling
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: double teams. The only guy who really can do that
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: is Daikwon, and he's a little long in the tooth
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: of miles on the tires. So I say all that
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: to say, it's preseason. This isn't the starters. Pump the brakes.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: We're still not gonna know until the regular season. But
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: still I did not like what I saw because even
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: though it was the backups, like you said, TJ Sanders
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: to start the year with Ogin Jobe suspended, TJ Sanders
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: is defensive tackle three. When Ogu Jobe comes back, he's
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: probably defensive tackle four. Gonna see a heavy chunk of snaps.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Walker probably gets rotated in at some point unless Dwayne
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Carter holds them off, but I don't see that happening.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: It was concerning on the interior, and then you mix
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: it with a couple of points that you mentioned as well,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: like yeah, guys on the edge getting sucked in, giving
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: up you know, contained or not that's in the edge,
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: and being forced players and running backs getting outside.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: It was ugly up front and in the spine from
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: a run defense standpoint.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and we know we've built kind of that old
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: school Colts defense. They used to be like that with
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: the Peyton Manning defense when you had Fremy and Robert
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: Mathis and Bob Sanders.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Get up on you.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: So that pass.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: It was just saying like yeah in everyone.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: Every once in a while in those seasons, they'd get
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: one of those you know, negative game script games, and
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: they would just get pounded and they would give up
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: twohundred fifty yards rushing. Everybody ask all the questions like yeah,
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: but they're gonna have the positive game script in like
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: thirteen of their games, So like, h you know, it's.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Not bad more than balances out.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know we're two like we're gonna we
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: are gonna boat race way more teams then are gonna
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: shove the ball down our throats.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: But I got bad news for people. It's gonna happen
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: a time or two.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: This year, the A team or two is gonna get
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: the wrong balance, We're gonna get the wrong drop, we're
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: gonna get the bad fumble luck, we're gonna get the
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: couple things that don't go our way. And what's going
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: to happen is instead of it last year it was
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: the Cardinals, it was the Titans. It was a couple
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: of those games where we had some weird moments of like,
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: how are we down double digits to these like ify teams.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: It's going to be like the Ravens game where it's
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: gonna be like, oh crap.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: This is not the right team to give that game
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: script too. And if you know, if it had happened.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: To us against the healthy Niners or the you know,
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: the Lions, if it went the other way around, that
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: was a team that absolutely would have spammed us and
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: just run and run and run with no concern of
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: just continuing to run at us. So you know, again,
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: it's fine, we're gonna be fined like that. All that's
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: gonna work. And we don't have the like, you know,
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: the difference maker that Josh is on offense. It's not
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: like that, but there are something like Gregor Russo legitimately
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: is the best run defending defensive end in the league.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: One of whatever you want to you know, talk about.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: You know, Treel Bernard is very good at diagnosing what's
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: going on. Daejon Jones, like you said, he can't play
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: to the level he did before, but it's a good player.
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: Ed Oliver is actually for his size, does a decent job.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: He's just you know, he's never gonna hold up to
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: a double team in that way because he is undersized.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: So some of those different Joey Bosa is actually a sneaky,
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: very good run defender. So there are things like that
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: where when the real guys are in there, it's just individually,
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: some of those players like Gregor Russo, I don't want
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: to say never almost never loses the edge like he
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: he maintains contained as well as any you know, defensive
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: end in the entire league. Those make a huge, huge difference.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: He Bosa and Greg Russo are going to be able
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: to funnel things back in Milano and Bernard can make
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: the tackles like hey, that that's going to function better
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: than it does now. But it is never going to
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: be our strength. It is not our foot like we
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: have not built that team, and you don't know why.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: I know that we haven't built that team.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: Brenda bean Is refused to add a legitimate one tech
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: regardless of my constant begging and pleading, and that I
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: had to settle for, like, you know, legitimately a massive human,
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: but not even the kind that I was asking for.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: When I say large human over and over and over again,
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: it's not even the kind that I was really wanting.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: I won't go on the rant of the just furious anger.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: I had watching Derek Harmon look awesome for the Steelers, and.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was watching.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: I was watching Tyler Williams then for Detroit last week,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: and I was and then apparent with that rumor of
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: like the Bills told Tylee he was going to be
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: their guy if he was there round one, and I
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, they were so close to maybe getting that.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: That would have been so nice, you know. So all
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: that said, I think.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: The guys that had their poor moments today before we
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: get into the safeties, I had one more in that area.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: I think tonight was a.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: Nice, healthy wake up call for Bill's mafia on what
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: Joe Andrieson is and what he is not. I am
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: excited about him being a absolute roster Locke. I'm excited
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: for him being a special teams Maven. I am excited
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: about him honestly, maybe pushing Dorian Williams for like the
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: short yardage goal line third linebacker spot of just downhill
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: coming forward, Like I'm okay, if that's even a possibility.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: I don't think he is. I think Dorian still the
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: third guy. But fans need to understand, regardless of about
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: awesome the story is and how fun Buffalo Joe and
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: the moments on on Hard Knocks are, if Joe Andriesen
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: played real snaps for those right now, I'm not saying never.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: Maybe he can develop in this area right now, every
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: veteran savvy quarterback.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: It would be an immediate.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: Focus and red flag on him and they would go
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: after him over and over and over and over until
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: the Bills were forced to remove him from the game.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Like what teams did to Dorian Williams when he went
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: in and his rookie year to replace that they just
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: got the Giants and the Patriots just attacked him over
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: and it was like, all right, crap.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah that you know. And again, that is not a
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: that is just an objective evaluation of where he is
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: in his very early, already amazingly overachieving career, Like the
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: man has made an NFL roster now two years in
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: a row as not only an undrafted free agent, like
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: a non combine invite, non non first wave. He wasn't
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: even a priority UDFA, he was a rookie, mini camp
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: walk on tryout to surpass all of that, he's already
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: exceeded every expectation.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Awesome story, super great.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: He and I won the same wrestling award in high school.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: Like I have a great affinity for the men. We're
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: both Elio da Paolo wrestling scholarship winners.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Trophies right here, I can yeah, like I have a.
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: Great affinity for it, anyone who is getting ahead of
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: themselves of like, oh man, we got to find a
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: way to get him on the field. No we don't, No,
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: we do not take a breath. It can be an
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: awesome story and no need for that.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: It lined up so unfortunately well with so in the
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: film room this week, Eric and I showed several of
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: his pieces in coverage from the first game against the Giants.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: But how that lined up with a bunch of the
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: coach he got in that episode of Hard Knocks where
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: they were talking about him in coverage and getting to
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: his landmark and guys getting behind him, and we showed
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: that on tape, and that was a concern with him
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: last year. For as much as he bawled out in
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: that game against the Steelers, think of it. If you're
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: going back and thinking, yeah, he looked great against the Steelers.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: What was he doing in that Steelers game? Everything was
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: in and around the line of scrimmage and it was
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: run defense base. He was making tackles left and right,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: he was shooting gaps, he was triggering. He's good in
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: that regard, like his processing and his trigger and his
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: finishing in and around the line of scrimmage and going
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: forward is good. He takes on blocks, well, he's fine.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: You start to get him in coverage and like tonight showed,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: he struggles a bit and there was some I started
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: to feel bad for him at one point because as
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: the game went on, he kept getting like closer and
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: closer to making plays on the ball.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: But wouldn't.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: And I think it was one in the third quarter
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: where they ran like a dig Bill's defenses on the
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: left side of the screen and he reads it and
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: he he's trying to come in the middle of the
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: field and he jumps to make the play.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: The ball is just because he doesn't have the longest arms.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: The ball goes over his outstretched arm, and I was like, oh.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: This like he was he read it, he started to
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: get there, but he still was unable to make the play.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: And to your point, though, I think that is something
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: to be expected. I'm the only thing I feel bad
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: for him with it actually kind of frustrates me a bit.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Like I saw a lot of people just kind of
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: I put out a tweet of you know, he's essentially
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: what I just said, like he's a good run defender,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: but he still needs working pass pro or not pass
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: pro pass coverage.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: And people were just coming in like, no, he sucks.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: She should be cut. He's terrible. He hasn't done any
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: of those things. And it's so annoying because.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Like a year ago, he was the greatest linebacker ever
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: and he should start ahead of Dorian and this it's
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: just like I think the expectations, positively and negatively gets
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: so out of whack. And yeah, for a dude who
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: went to Lancaster and went to UB and was a
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: very large afterthought and who made a roster. It would
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: be awesome if he went the route from like nobody
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: to a starter and was awesome in any But like
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: I always thinking back to when the Bears picked up
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Robbie Gould, the kicker who was their kicker for was
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: a prolot. He was like roofing and putting up shingle
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: on like houses, and then all of a sudden it
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: was kicking for them and being awesome. That doesn't happen
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: all the time. Guys don't come out of nowhere like
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: and just all of a sudden to send.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: He is a work in progress. He got picked on tonight.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: I also think what was also lost in that a
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: bit Dorian also had some moments where he was lost
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: in coverage. He's still a work in progress and he's
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: had much more NFL time on task than Joe Andreeson
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: and another year, so like perspective for everything. But yeah,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: it was I wasn't expecting everyone to turn on Joe
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Andreesen so quickly and call for his head like I
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: felt like I was in the beginning of Shrek and
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: everybody was there with the torches and pitchforks, ready to
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: march into the swamp to like take Joe Andreesen's head.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: I was surprised at how much they turned on him
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: so quickly. But yeah, he's a guy who continues to
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: need to learn and get time on task.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and again I think he is going to thrive
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: in that special team's rule where it's a lot more
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: than that, knowss. He does have like a preternatural ability
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: to diagnose run you know, run game, and to really
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: find the ball and to be able to you know,
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: like you said, to just decipher what he's seeing and
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: make the play. That gives me reason to think that
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: he can learn to do some of that in coverage
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: like that is much different in the NFL than where
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: he'd been before. But just we also have to accept
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: the fact that not everyone's ceiling is a starter like
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: that doesn't have That's not the only roles on the team.
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: Every single backup is not a starter in waiting.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: It's not like you just oh, yeah, our backups could
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: easily start. That's not.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like a good depth can be a role like
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: I love obviously one of there's lots of annoying things
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: about Belichick. One of his great uh sayings, you know,
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: don't tell me what a guy can't do, tell me
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: what he can do, and that is what he can do.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: Like so that's a perfectly reasonable way to do this.
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: But we that in mind real quick.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: I might to grab this, you know, let's talk about safety.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: So I want to grab a super chat from Adam.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: I missed it, Adam, thank you for being here. Thank
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: you for the super chat. I think this is a
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: very succinct way to put it. Obviously, defensive depth is
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: an ongoing problem, but we can't read too much into
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: a preseason game against the team with everything to prove.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: I think that's also a good point too, And Gregor
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: mentions it not mentioned it ties into something you mentioned earlier. Yeah,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: the Bears I think treating this more of you have
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: a new coaching staff. I think the preseason games are
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: much more tune up finding our rhythm for the regular
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: season that.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: It is for the Bears. Who are for the Bills
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: I should say who.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I don't want to say the Bills are punting on
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: the preseason, but I definitely think there is more intention
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: to what the Bears are doing as they're trying to
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: get everybody closer to being game ready. Within Dennis Allen's
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: scheme with in Ben Johnson's offense, whereas the Bills, it
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: is more we've rode this bike before. Yeah, we want
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: to make sure the wheels have enough air and the
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: pedals are good and nothing's too creaky.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: But we know how to ride this bike.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: I think it is a different bit of a you know,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: operation process for each side.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: And we also have to realize you have a big
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: thing you'd add them. I appreciate you. I agree completely.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: Also, there might have been different decisions made if we
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: didn't have I think if I remember Kyle Trimble's message, right,
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: I think we've had forty seven players need athletic trainer
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: attention so far as.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Like so.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: That's not an exaggeration or a joke. I think he
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: said the number is forty seven. Forty seven different or
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: maybe there's some repeats in there. I don't even know,
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: so maybe things would be a little bit different. Like
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: I do think there's a point. I think Steve Matthis
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: has brought it up before, like, hey, I'd actually like
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: to see us play a little bit more in the preseason, Poach.
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: We've had some weird you know that the Steelers loss
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: and the Jets. Zach Wilson loss after Rogers went out
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: and the hole we dug against Arizona. Like, we have
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: a pretty consistent track record of like not starting all
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: that hot to begin the year.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Maybe we should play a little bit.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: More in the preseason and be able to work our
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: way up. So I think in a perfect world, I
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: don't think that's lost on mcdermtt and the coaching staff
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: in the front office either. So I do think there's
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: a chance that if all things were equal and we
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: had a really healthy training camp.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Maybe we would have seen more things tonight.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: But yeah, this is the first one with you know,
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: they didn't play any starters in the first preseason game
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: for Chicago. This is a home game on a night game.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: Nice little introduction for Ben Johnson to the city and
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: to the team. I think again, our guys were trying
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: to they got embarrassed. There's nothing to there. But I
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: do think there was a little bit more intention from.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Their set that siegwaighs really well into what you were
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: about to speak on when we talk about you know,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: maybe some questionable play, but also some injuries. The safety
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: position falls into that camp. Taylor Rapp has been banged up.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Cole Bishop has been banged up. We've seen that play
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: out in the first preseason game, within training camp, within
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: the scrimmage, all of that No Taylor wrapped. Tonight we
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: saw a starting safety duo of Cold Bishop and Damar Hamlin. Greg,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on whether you want to frame
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: it within the scope of this game or the larger
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: picture within the safety room. I have large I had
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: and have large reservations about the safety unit coming into
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: the season.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: I don't feel good.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: About it or feel better about it after tonight or
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: good about it either. I do think some of the
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: plays early on, especially two of the first three chunk
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: plays where people were all Damar and Bishop, that was
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: more on Andreasen in the second level than it was
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: the safeties, but not a great look tonight for the safeties.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: Are you locked into.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: More of how they look tonight or are you kind
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: of projecting it a little more towards the season of
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of getting a little worried.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: On Cold Bishop. I don't feel comfortable with Damar Hamlin.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: Rap is banged up.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Like, what are your feelings on this safety group? Did
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: to influence at all or are you kind of looking
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: at things just in a vacuum of this performance and
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: going you know Wolf.
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I spent a decent amount of time to night,
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: like researching what does Marcus Williams have left Justin Simmons.
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, so I agree. I do think some
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: of the things that got laid.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: At their feet.
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: We're on the linebackers are on the defensive line night
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: getting pressure or whatever other pieces. But I will say,
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: you know, the Hamlin got caught flat footed on the
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: Zakiast touchdown.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: And that was a really horrible.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Look you got it.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: You gotta like, I don't you need to come light
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: him up, but like you can't.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: He didn't touch him, Yeah, he didn't. He didn't touch him.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: And he was like there with like a seven yard
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: cushion with like fifteen yards behind to the end zone.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: Like your voice flucts away to a question. But he
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: didn't touch him.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Like this, like that's a.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: That's a concern in the same thing actually, like almost
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: identical run blitz that Hancock had his TfL on. Hamlins
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: missed the tackle and end of being like an eight
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: year game, So like there was some stuff that was
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: on him, you know, Bishop, I don't the obviously the
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: one that stands out is him being like locked in
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: coverage manned man against a Lamede Kias Like that's that
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: is not an indication of what kind of season coal
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: Bishop is or is not going to have, because at
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: no point is that going to be how we successfully
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: use him, And anytime it is, it's going to need
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: safety help behind him to do that because a jitterbug,
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: really fast slot receiver is not going to be a
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: great matchup for him like that. So you know, it
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: didn't look good. There's reason to because but the defense
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: the coaches are well aware of the fact that's not
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: his skill set to do that.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: So we.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: Need Tailor Rap to be healthy for seven for twenty
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: plus games, and that is just you know, more consistently
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: not a high likelihood of happening. He is the closest
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: thing do we have to consistent and he at his
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: best is a high variance player that's not consistent. Like
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: even when he's at his best, he does make so
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: many toxic plays and so many disruptive havoc plays that
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: it makes up for the fact that he's not a
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: like play and play out like lunch pale guy. Like
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: he whiffs, he misses, he shoots through spaces trying to
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: make the big hit and you know, like he do,
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: but he does enough of them where it lands that
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: it's worth it.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: And like his variance is a net positive overall. And
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: if you.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: Had him, you know, I always think back, if we
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: could take him, you know, and he had like a
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: prime like a Hyde as his partner in the secondary,
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: it would be great because you would have those seasons
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: where Jordan Poyer was an all pro because he would
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: be doing all the havoc wreaking. So maddex here asking
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: about Jordan Hancock. I think the next one.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Was on Derek Forrest safety comments.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: Janda Owens, you know, was a guy that was supposed
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: to be like the UDFA. We would be hopeful about
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: Jordan Hancock's basically gone from nickel to full time safety,
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: you know. I know, DeMar Hamlin gets a lot of
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: hate and Aaron tries to pump the brakes. They're like,
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: you know, he's actually like a reasonably adequate player. But obviously,
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: regardless of where you fall on that, at at best
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: there is a very limited ceiling of of where it is,
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: and then the impact of the limitations is debatable. Yeah,
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: I am right, now sort of, and I if I'm
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: if I'm Marcus Williams Justin Simmons, who there's.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: A handful of others out there, but those are the two.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: Like guys who actually could probably come in and be
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: a Trey White type starter, Like, Hey, this isn't gonna
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: be perfect, but they're going to be good more than
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: they're bad, and they're going to make the right smart
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: play enough that we can make this work. If I'm
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: their agents, I literally am collimborting to means like that's
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: not that's not me making a joke, like that's like.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: What's up? What's up? Like you guys, you want to talk?
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: I just am All of our eggs are in the
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: basket of Like, no.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Cole Biship's going to be a good football player. Like
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: that's it.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: That's the entire planet, that's the whole thing. The entire
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: plan is Coby Ship is going to be good. And
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: I don't have a ton of evidence that that's correct,
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: that that's true. I think it's possible. I think there's
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: a reason he was supposed to be a Day two pick.
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: He's probably early in the second round, but he was
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: I think pretty universally a Day two guy. Probably more
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: a third than second, but like, that's still again that
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: even if that had been the case, that's the guy
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: we would have been expecting to compete for a starting
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: spot this year, a third round pick in his second year, Like,
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: that's what we should be expecting. I'm gonna hope that
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: that's the case. We have produced defensive back play from
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: much lesser players than him. We have a scheme that
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: allows for guys to play to the best of their ability.
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: But that's our whole plan is Taylor rep stays healthy
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: and cold by ship's good and I don't feel awesome
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: about either of those things, and anyone beyond there is
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: more concerning than that.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a very fair I think everything
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: you said is very very for fair, very fair and
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: succinctum falling apart, it's just yeah, it's I don't want
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: to go too much on it because I've spoken about
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: it so much this offseason. I don't want to bang
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: the same drummer or repeat myself too much. But it's
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: all just gotten to the point of I think Jamar
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Hamlins is and has always been a very fine safety three.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: I think he's a great guy.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, your starter's banged up and he needs to play
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: for a game or play for you know, two to five.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: Okay, cool, he can get the job done.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Or I think he could potentially be a starting safety
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: on like a loaded defense because he's reliable, he's responsible,
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: and you can get away if you have a bunch
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: of playmaker playmakers around him and guys who can do
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: other things and compensate a bit. But it's funny, yeah,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: the notion of him regularly starting on this defense. Again,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: his experience at Pitt I thought gave him such a
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: high floor here that combined with McDermott and co. Especially
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: being defensive back whisperers and getting so much blood out
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: of the defensive backstone.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: You take Hyde, who.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Was a punt returner and a jack of all trades dB,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: and you turn him into an all pro safety. You
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: take Jordan Poyer, who most Bills fans hadn't heard of
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: when he left Cleveland, turned him into an all pro.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: You take Levi Wallace and make him actually like a
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: low end CB two after being a straight up UDFA
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: that no one cared about, undersize, skinny, all that kind
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: of stuff. So I trust them with safety and at
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: the same time I find myself like not having confidence
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: just in this group because I don't want to see
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: Hamlin starting and Bishop. I just I don't love his
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: fit within the defense. I didn't like it from the
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: moment they drafted him. The line I always say is
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: I thought he was better served being in defense like
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Baltimore or Arizona or New England, where it was like
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: three safeties and he could play more apex monster man
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: cover tight ends, running backs, in and around the box,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: in and around the line of scrimmage.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: I always thought the.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Further he got back, the further he got away from
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, the worse he got, not meaning
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: that he was bad or subpar, but the further away
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: the worse he got, the closer.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: He was the better.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Obviously, the verse of that he is despite being a
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: good athlete. I hate that he got matched up with
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: thea Kiyis because that is not he can man up
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: on some tight ends and running backs. He's not winning
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: that battle against a Kis. I don't think a lot
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: of safeties are so key is like you said, is a.
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: Shit Jordan Poyer make a Hyde would not have looked
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: good in that situation.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: No, exactly right, you are not putting many safeties against
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: a And I know Za Keys is bounced around a
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: bunch of teams, but he is like a functional wide
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: receiver three in slot and has been for a variety
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: of teams. And you get him on a man in
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: a man coverage situation where they run a switch release
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: and create some outside leverage, beats him inside, and even
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: that there's no help inside from Andresen.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: Because his eyes are elsewhere.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: And then as Bishop of trying to get him still again,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: the key has beat him. Kudos to him. Tip your cap.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Hamlin's got to make that tackle. Like it's just like it.
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: Would have been a play we might have talked about
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: anyways as like a fifteen twenty yard gain and like
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: a play like oh man cold, like so if DeMar
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: comes up and makes a tackle there and it's a
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: seventeen yard gain, it's a play we still talk about.
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: It's like, man, you like, that's not what col Bishop's
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: like strength is going to be. But that's it now.
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: It's like, oh yeah, that that exposed Cole Bishop is
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: a good athlete, not like a special athlete that no
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: one's keeping up. And by the way, flip it around
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: the other way, Elijah Moore would be the same kind
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: of thing, like if you had you know, a normal
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: starting safe, like anyone outside of like an absolute freak
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: like starting safety in that situation in space with no
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: inside help and pour over the top help every you know,
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: thirty out of thirty two starting safeties are looking bad
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: in this.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: I am taking if it's Elijah Morgan's cool Bishop, I'm
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: taking Elijah Moore one hundred out of one hundred times,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Like in the slot of two way go jifty slot
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: receiver against the starting NFL safety. Yeah, they're they're gonna win.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Let alone, the switch release and what Ben Johnson did,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: good little design, cool kudos, dip your cap. But it
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: was so funny that it just Bishop gets beat and
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: then Hamlin misses the tackle, and I was just like, Oh,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: what a horrible way for them to score and to
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: start the game like that, given where this position group is.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: For a lot of fans, Yeah it's Kate Morris says here,
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: I don't understand why it's so hard. Why can't we
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: just get to Kyle Hamilton's like, just do that and
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: we'd be able to you know, have be crazy.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: No, it's terrible and It'd be crazy if a team
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: like Baltimore could have a Kyle Hamilton and then pair
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: them with a safety like a Malachi Starts.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: It would be so crazy if they could do that.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Terrible.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's just I don't I think Bishop can
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: still be fine. I don't love his fit in this defense,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: and I don't like the pairings of any of them,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Like wrapping Hamdling together. You're limited athletically Bishop and Rap.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: Bishop is athletic, but doesn't yet have the processing to
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: put that athleticism to use.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: The farther he gets away.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: From the line of scrimmage, and it all just I
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: think I tweeted it like last week and I met
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: as a joke, but I really do seriously believe it.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: I think this is karma from the football gods from me,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: and like you guys had awesome safeties for years, you
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: have to pay the tax now and just have questionable
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: and inconsistent play going forward. And that's what gives me
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: that I think the most pause. And also even with tonight,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: I would have liked to see I always coming back
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: from injury.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: I would have liked to see more coal Bishop.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: I think he needs more time on task I don't
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: know if them pulling him was always going to be
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: part of the plan, or hey, we're just kind of
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: working him in. Let's get his legs under him because
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: he is working back from injury. I would have liked
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: to see him get more work.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: Is like a little bit more something? Yeah, something?
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: But so you know, and I don't. I don't know
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: that I.
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: Expect overreaction or panic from this team. I don't think
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: they do that a lot. But I will say, if
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: somebody asked me, what is the one position that if
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: we did make a move, even though it's fun to
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: say Terry McLaurin or Trey Hendrickson or Mikerol Parsons or
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: all those things. And of course, anytime somebody comes available,
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: Brenda Bean checks and if they're actually going to be moved,
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: I'm sure he has conversations. All those things are very
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: very real us actually pursuing a player to check in on, like.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Hey, you had a high draft.
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: Pick at safety and okay, good. So Douglass confirmed. I
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: know I saw cal Trimble like speculated that when he
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: immediately came out was his guest was it was a
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: rep count. So I'm glad mcdermo confirmed that he wasn't benched.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah right, and say somebody was like mcdermoty probably
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: pulled up because he sucked so much.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: I was like, I don't think that's what happened.
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: I don't think that's the case. That that is the
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: spot like that, I'm half joking about the Marcus Williams
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: and Justin Simmons saying Justin Simmons did not look good
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: in Atlanta last year, so people need to remove the
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: name from the play. And what's still there? I like,
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: if I feel bad saying this, because he was such
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: an warrior first, so amazing, Like I I even had
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: the moment of like do we call Poyer?
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: Like oh wow?
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: Like and he he was done in his last year
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: with us let alone in Miami last year. I've just
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: grasped in a strass like I'm just at the point
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: of like, man, I.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: Just said a lot that you're grasping.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: I need process.
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: I need processing, like I don't I I we have
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: shown we can scheme around athletic limitations. We can't like
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: we can scheme around athletic limitations. And I will say
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: the couple flashes. The only positive we talked about here
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: was the past rush impact. That's without Larry Over Jobe
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: and Michael White and Joey Bosa and all those different Like,
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: I actually think there's a chance we have the most
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: impactful pass rush of the Josh Allen era. I'm not
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: saying cold front four guys in double digits acts. I
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: think we're gonna have the most impactful pass rush that
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen has had.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: The run defense piece I am concerned about, but they
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: should have a significant upgrade from a pass rush standpoint.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: So if that's the case, even more so that you
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: can scheme around limitations. Now that means we're not kind
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: of as many disguised coverages. But if you have a
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: pass rush that can get home, you don't need as
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: many disguised coverages, like you all those things can go
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: like those are all things where like, hey, maybe if
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: we just have a guy like Simmons who obviously doesn't
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: have a ton left in the tank athletically, but is
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: an incredibly smart player and knows where to be, is
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: that the lesser of evils? And that if Taylor Rap's
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: throwing his body around like crazy, and now all of
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: a sudden, you put a piece like that in as
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: just a placeholder and against Trey White, I think is
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: the corollar, Like, hey, there's limitations there, but like he
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: is going to do the right things play and play
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: out and we'll deal with the rest. Yes, he's going
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: to get roasted on a cross or at some point
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: in the game, people are going to lose their minds,
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: but he's gonna have like fifty five other really good
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: snaps in that game and we'll live. Maybe if you
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: plug A Simmons or Marcus Williams or whoever into that
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: spot as a placeholder with limitations and not great, but
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: they're going to make the right plays, they're going to
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: make the right reads, they're going to know where to be.
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: All of a sudden, now you remove the point of
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: like when Taylor rap gets hurt, when that's cold Bishop
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: coming into that spot where he spends most of the
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: time down to the line of scrimmage, and now like
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: its just the domino effect of like functionality.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: And I think I saw a question in the chat
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: about Derek Forrest. I won't lie.
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: I let myself get a little bit excited when we
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: signed him, just because you go back two years and
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: you look at that previous play that he had in
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: his second season and then got kind of lost the
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: job and they made a defense, and I convinced himself.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: Well, maybe it just wasn't the right fit.
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: Maybe we could recapture that because you went through Levi
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: Wallace and day Jackson and all the poyer and hide
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: what they were. I was like, Hey, if somebody's going
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: to recapture who was a pretty high level athlete and recapture.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: That, maybe we can do that.
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: But that does not seem to be taking place with
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: therefore us, he's maybe clinging to a fifty second, fifty
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: third roster spot. Special teams kind of thing he was on.
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: He was in there with the starting whatever you want
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: to call that special teams unit for punt coverage and
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: kick coverage. I didn't notice that. So he's at least
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: fighting for that spot. But I don't think we want
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: him playing snaps either.
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: And I do think too he didn't play tonight.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: I think cam Lewis might be safety three on this
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: team if we're really kind of maybe push comes to shove,
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: like if Bishop or anything happens to wrap, cam Lewis
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: goes in ahead of Hamlin. I don't know if that
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: makes anybody feel any better. But cam Lewis functions into
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: that conversation as well.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: I can't even process if that makes me feel better
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: or worse.
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: That's that would say, I actually think I'm sad that
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: that makes me feel better.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: I think that's the emotion of feeling.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: Right now, You're like, you're like, oh, that's nice, and
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: then you're like, oh no.
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, correct, Like I'm pretty sure the emotion and feeling
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: is sadness at the realization that that made me feel better.
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: That's where we're at.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just and even when they they need Rap
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: back there, and Bobby Babbage just said it like that
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: position is so cerebral they need Rap back there for
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: the adjustment standpoint. But again, I just don't think like
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: the fifth Wrap and Bishop are both better in and
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: around the box and around the line of scrimmage. And
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: if you put Taylor rap as a single high safety,
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: he doesn't have the range, but he has the processing.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: If you put Bishop back there, he's the theory got
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: the range in the athleticism, but he doesn't have the processing.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: They both can do the two high stuff, but they're
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: both are coming forward. Yeah, it's just it very makes
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: it very much makes me feel just kind of like
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: looking at the safety room. I keep just being like,
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: how did we get here? Like that's what I keep asking,
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: And as bad things happen, I'm just like, how did
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: we get here?
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: The really frustrated I think it was Doug said in
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: the chat earlier about how he remembers back during the
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: draft when people are like, well, we don't need Malchi
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: starks like we have like we already have a plan
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: at safety or whatever it was. And yeah, no, I
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: had safety on the list the whole time. I would
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: have been found with it. I wanted Xavier Wats when
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: he was falling. I figure I wanted conversation. In the chat, yeah,
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: David Watts.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: Everybody told me Cam Kitchen sucks because you didn't run
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: a great forty pretty sweet for the Rams last year.
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: But we took Bishop.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: But again, rookies will see and man, you know it's
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: going to be really bad. If Bishop doesn't pan out.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: Then that draft, the two the round two pick and
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: the third pick, it was cold Bishop and Dwayne Carter.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: Carter already looks like he could be gone, and nobody
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: would think twice. And if Bishop wasn't pan out, oh boy,
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: I'm waiting for people to jump on.
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: I'm now fully expecting like Cody ford Ish trade for
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: a drinker. I don't think he gets released, but I
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: expect a like, hey, we traded doing Carter and like wait,
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: wait for the details, and they go, oh, hey, we
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: twraded traded Duane Carter in a six for a five.
• 52:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, cool, that's a way awesome Yet a thing
• 52:28
  Speaker 6: for him for that third round pick, Yeah awesome, unfortunate.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: Let's try to spin it to some positives as we
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: move on in this episode.
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: Tyrrel Shavers look good again tonight. He got open. He's interesting.
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: I would like to see him get some more work
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: with Josh Allen. That's a fun thing. Looked good last week,
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: looked good this week. I'm excited to see him on tape.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: I think that's a positive. Yes, it's a great way
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: to end this here is to have something to cling to.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: I been.
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: I don't know if he's joking or not. Brad Robbins
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: is a good punter. That's Brad Robbins is a good
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: punter like he is. That is a real thing. I
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: hope that he's a good holder. I hope that that's
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: the case. We don't know because Kaden David is not
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: a good kicker, said that, I don't. I won't count
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: that against him. But Brad Robbins is a good punter.
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: That's cool, Like, I'm good with that. He's young, he's good.
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: We can be here for a while.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: Totally good.
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: Terrelle Shapers, I now think I've gone through this from
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: a roster machination standpoint, and I now think that there
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: is actually no value in releasing Curtis Samuel. He has
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: a guaranteed salary. There's no value.
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the dead Cats sucks.
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: It doesn't it kicks into next year. It doesn't actually
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: hurt us this year. It's basically so for this season.
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: It does suck overall for this season. It's no difference.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: It's technically four hundred and forty thousand dollars in savings technically.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: Purely from how much it costs, even though you get
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: to your points correct.
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: So it would now add like a six millions whatever
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: into next year, maybe even more seven point three something
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: like that.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: But Turel Shavers.
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: May have now put the Bills in a position where
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: the IR.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: Curtis Samuel, because you can do the eligible.
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: For return IR designation in camp and that like, hey,
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: you can't practice. We don't trust that you're going to
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: be ready to play. We have to pay for you. Anyways,
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: We're not paying for you and giving you one of
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: our fifty three investor spots. We're just gonna stash you
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: over here, and then you could get to a point
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: where break glass in case of emergency, secure reaggravate something.
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: Elijah Mortgan stinged up, Hey, we need you, We're going
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: to activate you. But I almost think like charl Shavers
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: has played so well that like, hey, we can't keep
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: a third slot receiver gadget guy.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: We have two of those already can catch screen passes
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: and play the slot. We don't need a third one.
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: We need more, you know, field stretching, big body guys
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: who will play special teams and covered units, and like,
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: you know, you see him and you see the length
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: of the ability. But like when they showed when they
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: popped up his little thing on the chiron and it
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: was like.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, he's six four two fifteen huh he is
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: pretty big.
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he can move pretty well for that.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: Oh god, dude, he.
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: His release on that one where they it's it's not
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: enough where I don't like we had this moment with
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: Joe and recent last year where I went through the
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: stages of like, oh that's kind of neat too, like oh,
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: this is pretty good. Oh, we can't expose him to Waibers,
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: like he he has to make the roster, like you can't.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: This is that you can't expose him to Weibers. I
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: almost think troll Shavers has graduated to I don't think.
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: I do not think we can assume he's gonna make
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: it to our practice squad.
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: Mmmm, you know.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: I mean you can't teach size, and you can't teach
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: speed and athleticism and he's got I mean it's the
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: positives that we talked about what could make him, you know,
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: something to crack the roster, and like, well, you just
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: mentioned he's got size, he's got some frame, he's got
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: some long speed, he's got some athleticism, be showing good hands.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: I think there's you to steal one of your phrases.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: There's a non zero chance that he gets picked up somewhere.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: I do think it's a fair ass the same man
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: the Samuel conversation, even just from a not even from
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: a quality of play standpoint, Like I just don't think
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: you're gonna say, Samuel dresses for week one and whatever
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: is ailing him now is all healed up. He's probably
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: gonna get banged up at some point. Again, Like I
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: just you can't count O Curt to Samuel to play
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: a full season health healthy, or just in general at
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: some point, So like you're going to need another You're
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: gonna need your wide receiver six to become wide receiver
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: five or wide receiver four however one And that's not
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: taking into account what happens if Palmer gets banged up
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: or Keon gets banged up. And Yeah, it's become this
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: really interesting spot where at first I was like, oh,
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: let's see if anybody can make some noise on the
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: depth charts, And now I'm like, they do. They need
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: to use him, Like is Samuel done? Like it's it's
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: a conversation that I don't like having.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think it's kind of a necessary one, especially.
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: With the contract they they contributed that he had basically
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: two guaranteed years last year and this year, and we're
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: going to get like less than one combined season out
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: of the It's really unfortunate.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: That's a dark side. Yeah, Unfortunately, the Shaver's look good.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: Anybody else that you thought, uh flashed? Then I thought
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: Frank Gore looked good again. I know he had the
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: fumble at the end, but he just I don't know,
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: Frank Gore just continues to be like super efficient and
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: make guys miss with that dead leg and just keeps
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: finding a way to get forward.
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: Good for him. Jordan Hancock had some nice flashes, yes, at.
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: Least that we did mention the pass rush snaps for
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: Sanders and Dean Walker and Landa Jackson same but like
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: all three of them, they at least had positive flashes.
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: They all had some negative plays they're going to want
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: back and some you know, uncomfortable film breakdowns that that
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: they'll go through.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: I thought that was positive. Ed if one.
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: Ufotio I saw again, at least I noticed him, and
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: I remember bringing that up like last preseason, like I
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: didn't even notice that he existed, and like at least
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: he made.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: Me notice he was there, and the same thing.
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: Wanday Owens for the first time noticed that he existed,
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: Like and then that was a guy that I know
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: a handful of the again, guys like you and Sikos
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: that go deep into the drafts, was like, Hey, keep
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: an eye on this guy. There's a chance he could
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: be a sneaky one, especially with what the safety room is,
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: and the obviously hasn't been the case, but I at
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: least noticed him for the for the first time there.
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: So maybe he's the kind of guy that, like, maybe
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: he could push for a practice squad kind of kind
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: of thing.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: I don't think he will, but that I think they're
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: going to be throwing some darts there for where that is.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping some I always say with from a back
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: end coverage perspective and for a lot of the trenches,
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: I always like to wait to see the tape.
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: I'm hoping.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: I'm really hopeful that I come out of the tape. Yeah,
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: kJ hammler uh popped a little bit. Yeah, he's got
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: some just value, especially with the juice that he brings.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: He could, you know, potentially make a case for that
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: last wide receiver spot too, potentially if there was one.
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: I'm hoping.
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping watching the tape somebody pops more in the
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: trenches or from a coverage standpoint, I'm like, oh, this
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: was a nice piece to see. I don't want to
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: watch the offensive line, because they look bad. The backups
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: on offensive line scare me. They're getting knocked around. I
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: don't think it'll come from there. I'm hoping defensively, I
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: can hang my head on something. I am really it's again,
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: very rarely do I tune out in a game or
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: like not want to watch the tape. And I tuned
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: out in this one, and I don't want to watch
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: the All twenty two like and so I'm hoping somebody
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: and give me something like you know what, that game sucked,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: but Timmy looked really good.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: So let's look at Timmy.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: Like just the offensive line went.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: It's the biggest one where we didn't have the equity
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: of who was going against who because our backups are
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: pretty good, but like the pair of starting defensive line
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: is good, like they have like their front has some players.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: So like all of a sudden, now you're like, well,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: like our backups aren't going to be like moving people
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: that are starters. And then when that switch, now then
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: you had like our third string guys against their backups,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: and like our third string guys aren't anything special because
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: we didn't invest in anyone because we brought back our
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: top nine or ten guys, so it was all udfas
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: and you know, just street free agent guys.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: So like it took a while.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: Then like towards the end, you at least had some
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: equity there where we could sudden, now you saw Frank
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: Gore running and moving. When you got our third string
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: guys against their third string guys, you had some equity
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: where now all of a sudden, it was like okay,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: and then we started to move a little bit. So
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: like that was one of the biggest examples of today's game,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: where like just the guys they were playing and who
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: we were playing, well, yeah, like we have. There's a
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: reason Brandon Thorne branks US as the third best offensive
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: line in the NFL when none of those guys played
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: is zero, literally zero, even our primary backup, our six guy,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: Alec Anderson. Like literally none of the guys who played
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: for us played. So of course when you went for
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: lineman seven through eleven as the starters and then lineman
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: twelve through sixteen, uh next, yeah, of course, it wasn't
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: look awesome to be able to do those things.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: So once I saw Ryan, I hope you long armed
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: by Austin Booker and driven into the backfield. I was like, well,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: that's probably they're gonna get going to.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: Get worked by this unit because he's offensive lineman seven
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: essentially maybe ah yeah.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: And when he got worked by Booker, I was like,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: oh no, this gives not a lot of hope for
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: the rest of the group.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: So I too look forward to you finding something positive
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: out of out.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: Of what I just experienced. But we're at an hour mark,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: and I'm embarrassed for us that we I.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: Really didn't think we would go well.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: In all fairness though, we really just spoke a lot
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: on the negatives, and I think it was that very cathartic.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: We needed to do this.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: I think I think the sleep because if we didn't
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: do this, I'd still be awake, but I would just
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: be like hands folded on my chest, just staring up
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: at the ceiling, like not being able to sleep.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: So I think this was cathartic.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: We can we talked it out, We had some positive conversations,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: even though it was about negative things, and then we
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: can say goodbye and unplug and just go into our beds.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: And go to sleep.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: That's right, that's right, that's right, and tomorrow all research
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: available free agents.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so I wakes up early and take a
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: peek and see who will cost what and what money
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: is in the bananasan or you know what, who needs
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: safeties if you just trade for Trey Hendrickson.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: Right, waves and waves of pass rushers.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: So if anybody wants to know my process, obviously I'm
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: gonna look at the free agents. I'm gonna figure out
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: like Kay did Jordan Whitehead of in anything left, Marcus William,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: Justin Simmons of whoever?
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: All those guys there.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: Then I'll go through like the first five or six,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: maybe eight safeties drafted in the draft and go look
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: at those teams to see, hey, did they retain a
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: guy who played last year and is getting bumped into
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: a backup role, and then figure out which of those
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: guys can we trade Dwayne Carter for.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: It all comes back to the trade for Dway Carr.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: Gotta find some use for that four third round.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't even want to make the joke, but everything.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: Well, Steve brought it up like we saw like the
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: Kaitlin saying, oh yeah, Luke Fortin te I just want
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: that trade, Like I want to trade Dwayne Carter for
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: somebody's third safety, who's good enough to be our band, aid.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: I would have been alright with that. I'm not gonna
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: speak ill. I talked about him so negatively throughout the
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: entire offseason.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna do it again.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's rough Greg. Any parting thoughts or words for
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: any of the people.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: I'm glad this game didn't count.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: That's fair. That's fair. You know it does count.
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  Speaker 1: it is absolutely delicious.
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  Speaker 3: Get yourself to One Pi Pizza.
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  Speaker 1: It will make you feel better on Monday if you
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  Speaker 1: wake up and you're still frustrated or said, get yourself
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  Speaker 1: some One Pie Pizza. They make tremendous food and they
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  Speaker 1: do a lot of good for the community. I talk
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  Speaker 1: about all the initiatives and the drives and the support,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's partnering with the SPCA, Toys for Tots, the
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  Speaker 1: Alzheimer's Foundation, partnering with Roswater try and knock out Cancer.
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  Speaker 1: They're really good people, making really good food and doing
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  Speaker 1: a lot of good for the community.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Great comment here from rj Argis says I tried their
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  Speaker 1: pizza with pepperoni, sausage, bacon, red onion, and yellow peppers.
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  Speaker 3: One of the best pizza's ever.
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  Speaker 2: That's a great order.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he said it.
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  Speaker 1: He tagged me in a picture. It looked tremendous like
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  Speaker 1: he did it up. Yeah, they appreciate that testimonial argie.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they do really good stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Go get yourself so one pie pizza, make yourself feel
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  Speaker 1: better on Monday. That'll do it for us here on
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  Speaker 1: this episode of Disguised coverage. Major thank you to you
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  Speaker 1: Greg for joining me on this journey and staying up
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  Speaker 1: late so we could just.
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  Speaker 3: Be miserable together.
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  Speaker 2: Misery.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and talk about sadness. This is a good time.
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  Speaker 2: No, appreciate you guys. This is a lot of fun
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  Speaker 2: and we'll talk to you soon. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: We appreciate you, folks. I see him.
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  Speaker 1: I'm used to always doing this solo, so I don't
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  Speaker 3: Oh, Liby, pool up this coming. If somebody saying, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I do a good job, but we see them, we
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  Speaker 3: when we see you. Godspeed, and as always, there you go, Greg,
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  Speaker 3: pull it out there. That doesn't count because I'm doing yeah,
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