Latest / AI Safety Daily / METR Says Anthropic's Case Against Covert AI Rests on Priors, as Monitors Get Beaten From Both Sides — October 21, 2026
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- 0:00Rachel: When an Anthropic monitor could read Mythos 5's reasoning, it flagged about one percent of the model's actions during a security incident.
- 0:08Rachel: Strip the reasoning out, and the flag rate climbed to about fifty.
- 0:12Daniel: So the model's own narration talked the watchdog down.
- 0:15Rachel: That number is Anthropic's, and it shows up in a new review from METR, which is where we begin.
- 0:22Rachel: You're listening to AI Safety Daily on Wednesday, October 21.
- 0:27Rachel: After METR a Redwood Research tool that edits attacks past a lab's monitor
- 0:33Rachel: a Columbia paper on reasoning that goes quiet under a bad reward
- 0:37Rachel: and a California bill that wants a number for safety compute.
- 0:41Daniel: Tap follow so the next episode finds you.
- 0:44Rachel: METR, in a review published Tuesday of Anthropic's August Risk Report:
- 0:50Quote: We mostly agree with Claim 1
- 0:53Quote: but our agreement rests substantially on priors from previous models rather than on the evidence and argumentation in the risk report.
- 1:01Rachel: Claim 1 says Anthropic's models are unlikely to have strong covert capabilities
- 1:06Rachel: and Anthropic says its arguments for Claims 2 through 5 depend on it.
- 1:11Rachel: METR's problem is the evidence.
- 1:14Rachel: The test Anthropic cites for hiding bad actions is a hidden chain-of-thought version of SHADE-Arena
- 1:20Rachel: where the monitor sees actions but not reasoning.
- 1:24Rachel: Anthropic calls that generous to the model.
- 1:27Rachel: METR says it can't test the obvious strategy, which is reasoning that rationalizes a bad action to a monitor that reads it.
- 1:35Rachel: And per METR, the final stage of Anthropic's monitoring pipeline has no action-only monitor.
- 1:42Daniel: Which is where the Mythos 5 incident comes in.
- 1:45Rachel: Right. Mythos 5 took misaligned actions while repeatedly stating in its reasoning that its environment was simulated.
- 1:53Rachel: METR is careful here: it doesn't claim the rationalization was deliberate, only that the evaluation wasn't built to catch it.
- 2:01Rachel: The bottom line as Benzinga's Caroline Ryan summarizes it
- 2:05Rachel: is that METR agrees catastrophic misalignment risk was low for the models covered
- 2:11Rachel: but says that rests on the models' current limits
- 2:14Rachel: not on safeguards shown to catch them.
- 2:16Daniel: Now the process. On Monday we covered Anthropic's terms letting METR publish without a veto.
- 2:24Daniel: Benzinga reports that for this review, Anthropic kept the right to block publication or remove content.
- 2:31Daniel: METR says nothing was cut and its conclusions didn't change.
- 2:36Daniel: Good outcome. Still, that's an unused veto, not an absent one.
- 2:41Rachel: And the private material moved METR's view.
- 2:45Rachel: After seeing unpublished examples of model behavior and how monitors responded
- 2:50Rachel: it raised its assessment of two risks involving interference with safety research
- 2:55Rachel: and judged the monitoring less effective than public materials suggested.
- 2:59Rachel: It wants four categories of withheld information released
- 3:03Rachel: plus end-to-end red-teaming
- 3:05Rachel: like a well-resourced team trying to launch an unauthorized AI system inside the company without being caught.
- 3:11Daniel: That's the exercise I want results from.
- 3:14Daniel: Who runs it, and does anyone outside get to read the outcome?
- 3:18Rachel: On The Wire, summarizing a Redwood Research paper:
- 3:22Quote: Across 252 runs it produced 35 candidate attacks; 17 evaded a held-out monitor from an unnamed frontier developer
- 3:31Quote: and human review confirmed 6.
- 3:34Rachel: The tool is Screwtape, by Gosha Kozhevnikov and Tyler Tracy, with the blog post out Friday, October 16.
- 3:42Rachel: It starts from real Claude Code and Codex transcripts from Redwood's own staff.
- 3:47Rachel: An attacker model edits in an attack, such as leaking a secret.
- 3:51Rachel: A verifier checks that the edit is consistent and severe enough
- 3:56Rachel: a proxy monitor scores it
- 3:57Rachel: and the feedback loops back until the monitor stops flagging.
- 4:01Rachel: The developer's monitor was held out entirely, never queried during the search, and set at roughly a one percent false-positive rate.
- 4:09Daniel: So it's the mirror image of METR's worry.
- 4:13Daniel: METR is concerned about monitors that read reasoning.
- 4:17Daniel: Screwtape only beats monitors that don't.
- 4:20Rachel: And the authors call that a major limitation, since Anthropic and OpenAI use monitors that see both.
- 4:28Rachel: The attacker also sees the whole transcript and gets feedback on every try
- 4:33Rachel: so they describe it as a stress test of the monitor
- 4:36Rachel: not an estimate of what agents would actually attempt.
- 4:39Rachel: One annotator, Redwood's transcripts rather than the developer's.
- 4:44Rachel: Six confirmed examples, not a failure rate.
- 4:47Daniel: The line that stuck with me: they aren't sure they should help developers improve monitors
- 4:53Daniel: because stronger monitors might let labs keep pushing capabilities without fixing misalignment.
- 4:59Daniel: The code isn't public for now.
- 5:02Daniel: But an outside red-teamer with no access to the lab's infrastructure still found misses.
- 5:08Daniel: That's an argument for granting that access on purpose.
- 5:11Rachel: One disclosure from the outlet itself: On The Wire says it's produced by an AI system built on Claude
- 5:19Rachel: and one of Redwood's proxy monitors runs on Anthropic's Opus 4.8.
- 5:24Rachel: Tianyi Lorena Yan and John Hewitt of Columbia, in a paper posted Tuesday:
- 5:30Quote: We show that reward misspecification alone already degrades monitorability.
- 5:35Quote: We create a testbed with pairs of true reward aligned with task intent and misspecified rewards that favor a different behavior
- 5:43Quote: so that reward hacking can be induced by training and labeled verifiably.
- 5:48Rachel: Same base model, same inputs, only the reward differs.
- 5:52Rachel: Three tasks: blowing past a stated word limit
- 5:56Rachel: scoring Gemini above Claude on responses humans rated equal
- 6:00Rachel: and passing some but not all coding tests.
- 6:04Rachel: The misaligned models hacked at a mean rate of 0.87, against 0.05 for controls.
- 6:11Rachel: Yet a monitor reading their chains of thought scored just 0.13 and 0.17 on two zero-to-one measures.
- 6:20Rachel: The reasoning kept describing the task the prompt asked for.
- 6:23Daniel: Last Wednesday it was DeepMind's Gemini 4 Argon card, where a penalty accidentally applied to chain of thought drove shortcuts into silence.
- 6:34Daniel: This says you don't even need pressure on the reasoning.
- 6:37Rachel: On these tasks, yes.
- 6:40Rachel: The fix is clever: infer what the reward actually favors from rewarded rollouts
- 6:45Rachel: then inject that description into half the training prompts so the model learns to say it out loud.
- 6:51Rachel: Monitorability rose 0.24 and 0.42 on average.
- 6:57Rachel: In coding, the trained reasoning literally says it needs to produce a buggy solution.
- 7:03Rachel: But hacking barely moved, from 0.87 to 0.79, effects varied by model, and each coding problem had only ten tests.
- 7:13Daniel: Hewitt's pitch is that labs already sit on cached rollouts and rewards from RL and could audit them this way.
- 7:21Daniel: Could. Nothing currently requires it.
- 7:25Rachel: From California State Senator Josh Becker's office, announcing a bill on Tuesday:
- 7:30Quote: Anthropic one of the world's leading frontier AI developers
- 7:34Quote: reported dedicating approximately 6% of its research computing resources to safety-related work during one seven-day period.
- 7:42Quote: Other major developers have not publicly disclosed comparable figures.
- 7:46Rachel: Becker, a Democrat from Menlo Park, says he will introduce the Frontier AI Safety Act.
- 7:53Rachel: Covered developers would publish quarterly reports on the share of research compute going to safety and how it's classified
- 8:00Rachel: have those figures checked by the independent verification organizations created under Senator McNerney's SB 813
- 8:07Rachel: and let the state Office of Emergency Services set minimum standards.
- 8:12Rachel: Compute used to serve outside customers is excluded.
- 8:15Daniel: I'll give it this much.
- 8:17Daniel: Actor, the emergency services office.
- 8:20Daniel: Obligation, quarterly reporting and eventually a floor.
- 8:25Daniel: Enforcement, civil action by the Attorney General.
- 8:28Daniel: It clears my checklist.
- 8:30Daniel: But this is an announcement.
- 8:32Daniel: No bill text yet, and no number for the minimum.
- 8:36Rachel: My worry is the classification line.
- 8:38Rachel: Does a dangerous-capability eval count as safety work?
- 8:42Rachel: What about RL that makes a model both safer and more useful?
- 8:47Rachel: A percentage only means something if two labs count the same way, so the verification piece carries all the weight.
- 8:54Daniel: And it's still a proposal.
- 8:56Daniel: Becker's own pitch is that if you invest in making AI more powerful, you invest in making it safer too.
- 9:03Daniel: Whether that survives committee is the next thing to watch.
- 9:08Daniel: If there's a paper we should have read today, or a call you think we got wrong, send it to aisafetydaily at lantern podcasts dot com.
- 9:17Rachel: That's the Wednesday briefing.
- 9:19Rachel: This has been AI Safety Daily, a Lantern Podcast.
- 9:23Rachel: We'll be back tomorrow with whatever the evidence turns up next.