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  Speaker 1: You are listening to Eagles postgame analysis here at the
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  Speaker 1: Philadelphia Sports Table podcast show, the longest running weekly Philly
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  Speaker 1: sports podcast show in the world, over twelve and a
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  Speaker 1: half years strong. And my goodness, the Philadelphia Eagles actually
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  Speaker 1: won here in week seventeen against the Buffalo Bills up
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  Speaker 1: in Buffalo by a score of thirteen to twelve, and
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  Speaker 1: it came down to the last few seconds of the game.
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  Speaker 1: My goodness, we are certainly going to get into it
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  Speaker 1: on this Eagles postgame show. I'm Jeff Warren. I'm joined
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  Speaker 1: this week by our good friend of the podcast, filling
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  Speaker 1: you've seen him or heard him on our PSD podcast
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  Speaker 1: shows every year or yeah, our postgame shows Eagles postgame
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  Speaker 1: shows every now and again. Our friend Josh Schuster. Buddy,
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, what a game. What a game. I
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  Speaker 1: was like dead at the end of the game. I
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  Speaker 1: was telling you I had to have my wife roll
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  Speaker 1: me down here into the studio because I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I was just dead. I couldn't take it anymore. Man, Like,
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  Speaker 1: what a game. Not great by any stretch of the
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  Speaker 1: imagination for the Philadelphia Eagles. I mean, it was a
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  Speaker 1: tale of two halves for sure from an offensive standpoint.
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  Speaker 1: But man, a win, I guess is a win here.
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  Speaker 1: And this team is eleven and five on the season here, man,
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  Speaker 1: and they're looking to get that number two spot. But
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna dive into our themes from the game and
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  Speaker 1: grade these units. So why don't you start us off? Buddy,
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  Speaker 1: first and foremost, thank you for joining us here, But wow,
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  Speaker 1: why don't we get into our themes of this game
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  Speaker 1: because there's a few of them for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, anytime, Jeff, I'm always happy to hop on. I
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  Speaker 2: think for me, there's one major theme, and I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: start with organization and then I'm gonna move into quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: To me, and I'm not calling the Buffalo Bills a
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  Speaker 2: loser organization or a bad organization, but this game, to me,
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  Speaker 2: highlighted exactly what a winning organization knows how to do
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  Speaker 2: and how to win. And an organization, I want to say,
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  Speaker 2: is trying to learn how to win. But they've had
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  Speaker 2: so many opportunities. It's just they're incapable of capturing that moment. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there's no reason to go for two there, right,
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  Speaker 2: It's not affecting your playoff seating anything.
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  Speaker 3: It's just dumb.
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  Speaker 2: They're just dumb when it comes or they don't make
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  Speaker 2: the play. And this I'm going to have a trickle
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  Speaker 2: down to the quarterbacks because a lot of people say, oh,
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  Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts is a winner, but there's no way to
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  Speaker 2: measure it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, today's the way to measure it.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: All week we heard Josh Allen is amazing, YadA, YadA YadA,
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  Speaker 2: But Josh Allen cost his team five points today which
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  Speaker 2: cost them to win. Yes, see, Jalen Hurts doesn't take
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  Speaker 2: that really stupid sack that gets them out of field goal.
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  Speaker 1: Rate nineteen yard sack. Yeah, he plays hero.
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  Speaker 2: Ball, And I text you there is one quarterback in
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  Speaker 2: the NFL that can play hero ball and win championships,
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  Speaker 2: and it's Patrick Mahomes and he may wind up being
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  Speaker 2: the greatest quarterback to ever play the game. So to
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  Speaker 2: try to do that every week, it's not going to
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  Speaker 2: be effective. The other thing is with the game on
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  Speaker 2: the line, because your coach decides to go for it,
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  Speaker 2: you have a wide open wide receiver in the end zone.
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  Speaker 2: I mean there's not anybody within four or five yards
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  Speaker 2: of the wide receiver. He can't make the play. He
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  Speaker 2: just can't make to play. And it's becoming a theme
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  Speaker 2: with Josh Allen. But the reality is is when people
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  Speaker 2: want to say you can't measure what winning is, it's
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  Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts. I don't care that Jalen Hurts was like
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  Speaker 2: fifty percent completion today. I know for a fact he's
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  Speaker 2: making that two point conversion play. Throw either that or
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  Speaker 2: he's going to run it in himself. I know it,
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  Speaker 2: And I know Jalen Hurts isn't going to take that sack.
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  Speaker 3: Do you know how?
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  Speaker 2: I know because the next play or the next series
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  Speaker 2: after that whole backle with Josh Allen where they had
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  Speaker 2: to punt it, Hurts scrambles to the outside just like
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  Speaker 2: Josh Allen, and you know what he does.
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  Speaker 3: He throws the ball away. He throws it away.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't try to play hero ball wrap back around. No,
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  Speaker 2: he just throws it away and says, you know what
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  Speaker 2: defense is doing, great, let's go ahead the whole game.
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  Speaker 2: My second theme is just bizarre. The whole second half.
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  Speaker 2: The fact that the Eagles can't get more than seventeen
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  Speaker 2: yards incredible. It takes the game comes down to one
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  Speaker 2: final play on a two point conversion because of the
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  Speaker 2: miraculous trick play where they do like the hitch throw
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  Speaker 2: and then run it on a fourth and ten. Who
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  Speaker 2: goes for it on fourth and ten when the defense
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  Speaker 2: has only given up seventeen.
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  Speaker 3: Yards for the whole second half. That made no sense
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  Speaker 3: to me.
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  Speaker 2: But then they bomb it down the field in a
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  Speaker 2: monsoon and it's miraculous catch, Like literally the wide receiver
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  Speaker 2: doesn't have the ball, it just happens to land on
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  Speaker 2: Test on top of him. Marks As just playing fantastic
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  Speaker 2: defense and he just happens.
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  Speaker 1: Just bounced right right where it needed to be. Yep.
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  Speaker 2: And Brandon Cooks has been like cooked for years and
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  Speaker 2: somehow he's making this just miracle catch, Like it's a
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  Speaker 2: two miracle plays back to back pretty much in order
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  Speaker 2: for the game to go to this two point conversion
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  Speaker 2: and then the Knox falls, you know, a half yard
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  Speaker 2: away from the end zone instead of inside it.
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  Speaker 1: It just was bizarre, absolutely bizarre. Going back to what
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  Speaker 1: you were talking about with Josh Allen and Jalen Hurts,
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  Speaker 1: I just want to mention for folks go back in
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  Speaker 1: the podcast feed and whether you're watching on YouTube, whether
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  Speaker 1: you're watching or listening on whatever podcast platform you're on.
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  Speaker 1: Our guest recent guest, oj Spivey talked about how Jalen
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  Speaker 1: Hurts was managing the game where he was it's the
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  Speaker 1: turnover management or lack of turnovers in terms of that management.
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  Speaker 1: It goes to exactly what Josh was just talking about,
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  Speaker 1: going so far as to say that Jalen Hurts, while
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  Speaker 1: yes fifty percent completion percentage in this game, only one
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  Speaker 1: hundred and ten yards through the air, he only averaged
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  Speaker 1: four point one yards per attempt and he ended with
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  Speaker 1: a rating of seventy one point five, a not great
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  Speaker 1: showing on the stat sheet by Jalen Hurts, But he
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  Speaker 1: didn't turn the ball over, and he is consistently doing
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  Speaker 1: this game after game after game. And yes, we are
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  Speaker 1: frustrated with third and long. How many times have we
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  Speaker 1: talked about it on this postgame show? Third and long sucks.
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  Speaker 1: Third and long is what this offense consistently gets into
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  Speaker 1: for a variety of reasons. But Jalen Hurts doesn't turn
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  Speaker 1: of the ball and he doesn't put the offense in
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  Speaker 1: a horrendous position like Josh Allen did, and it is
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  Speaker 1: we need to be celebrating that more, or maybe not celebrating,
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  Speaker 1: but talking about that more. And I'm so glad, Josh
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  Speaker 1: that you brought that up because it's a huge theme
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  Speaker 1: of this game. Jalen Hurts did not turn the ball over.
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  Speaker 1: The Eagles did not lose this game that we've all
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  Speaker 1: been anticipating since the beginning of the year when we
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  Speaker 1: saw that this game was Week seventeen. We have been
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  Speaker 1: anticipating what was going to happen here to really good
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  Speaker 1: football teams, two very good organizations going up against each other.
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  Speaker 1: And we saw who came out on top. Yes it
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  Speaker 1: was by a point, and yes the Eagles offense was
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  Speaker 1: absolutely anemic in the second half with the only seventeen
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  Speaker 1: total yards. At the end of the day, Jalen Hurts
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  Speaker 1: did what he needed to do to win this game,
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  Speaker 1: and it needs to be talked about more, folks. So
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  Speaker 1: that being said, Josh completely agree with you, and I
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  Speaker 1: think that's the biggest takeaway really from this game. But
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  Speaker 1: I also want to mention too, on the flip side
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  Speaker 1: of things when it comes to the play calling, when
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  Speaker 1: it comes to the coaching and what the offensive coaching
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  Speaker 1: has continued to do time and time again, throughout this season.
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  Speaker 1: There was a really good thought from our friend of
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  Speaker 1: the pod, Brandon Lee Gouten from Bleedinggreen Nation dot com.
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  Speaker 1: He shot off a tweet Now, I wanted to read
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  Speaker 1: that to folks, because it really does encapsulate what the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles offensive mentality really is and has been time and
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  Speaker 1: time again throughout this season. He said, taking the Eagles
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  Speaker 1: offense out of rhythm by playing so conservative probably makes
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  Speaker 1: it hard for them to try to get a good
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  Speaker 1: flow going when they're absolutely when they absolutely need to
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  Speaker 1: late in the game. Seems that Sirianni and Patullo obviously
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  Speaker 1: learn nothing from the Cowboys and Broncos games, and that's
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  Speaker 1: got to be another theme here as well. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it is absolutely astonishing that this offense, with the talent
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  Speaker 1: that they have on it. Josh, how many times have
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  Speaker 1: we said this on this podcast show, where it's, oh,
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  Speaker 1: they're not getting the yards they need to in the
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  Speaker 1: second half. You know, how can this be happening when
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  Speaker 1: you have aj Brown, DeVante Smith, Saquon Barkley, Jalen Hurts
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  Speaker 1: can use his legs and he's not that bad of
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  Speaker 1: a passer either, by the way. To only have seventeen
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  Speaker 1: yards and you're going to take this offense out of
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  Speaker 1: a rhythm in the second half, and then and then
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  Speaker 1: the game comes down to what it came down to,
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  Speaker 1: and quite frankly and in EP Josh Allen on a
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  Speaker 1: two point conversion that it was a terrible throw by him. Thankfully,
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles end up winning the game because of that.
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  Speaker 1: It's just it's just astonishing to me that this this
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  Speaker 1: offensive minded organization here hasn't quite grasped that this isn't
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  Speaker 1: the most conducive way to win a football game here
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  Speaker 1: in the NFL, even though they're eleven and five. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: it's not the best way to win a football game.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know your thoughts here, and I thought Blg's
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  Speaker 1: tweet was was absolutely spot on.
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  Speaker 3: I love BLG.
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  Speaker 2: He's one of my favorite follows out on Twitter because
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  Speaker 2: I think he I think number one, he's level headed
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  Speaker 2: and number two, I think he puts a lot of
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  Speaker 2: really good information out there, and I don't think he
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  Speaker 2: slants his information. I think he's very very good at
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  Speaker 2: what he does. I agree completely what he saying, and
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  Speaker 2: I think for me today it was a light bulb
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  Speaker 2: moment with the Eagles offense. Jeff I've been on a
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  Speaker 2: number of times for the post games this year, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: and every time I come on, I say the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: This offense cannot play a complete sixty minutes outside of
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  Speaker 2: the Raiders scheme. I'll give them the Raiders game. And
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  Speaker 2: today I finally had my light bulb moment. I know
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  Speaker 2: why because it feels like, and I'm not saying that
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  Speaker 2: this is the case, because I would find it ridiculous
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  Speaker 2: if this was the case, and I hope it's not
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  Speaker 2: the case.
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  Speaker 3: It feels like at some point in.
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  Speaker 2: The game, Siriani and Patulo get together and they decide
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  Speaker 2: that the offense has done enough.
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  Speaker 3: They're just gonna let the defense take over.
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  Speaker 1: Yah.
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  Speaker 2: And I think one of the most dangerous things that
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  Speaker 2: happened was the Eagles got such a good defense last
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  Speaker 2: year and won the Super Bowl, because I think it
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  Speaker 2: in a Sirianni and Kevin Pittulau to have those kind
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  Speaker 2: of thoughts. Yeah, and I genuinely am not expecting them
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  Speaker 2: to play a complete sixty minute game as an offense
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  Speaker 2: like that expectation. After today is done, there's one game left.
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  Speaker 2: It will likely be all backups next week, even if
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  Speaker 2: the Bears lose tonight. I imagine it still will be
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  Speaker 2: all backups next week. And I think even with the
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  Speaker 2: backups in there, you're going to see the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: They'll get up by a certain amount and they'll just say, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: that's enough, we're good. Or in the first half, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we've seen it this year where the offense just isn't
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  Speaker 2: doing anything. They're not you know, they're just very bland,
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  Speaker 2: very conservative, and they're losing. And now all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 2: it's about the second half adjustments. It's like, no, they
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  Speaker 2: just decided to not be conservative anymore. And it's it's infuriating.
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  Speaker 2: As a fan.
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  Speaker 3: I don't and I can This is.
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  Speaker 2: Where I think aj brand for as much as I
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  Speaker 2: can't stand diva antics, I think, without saying it, this
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  Speaker 2: is what he's getting at. Yeah, and you and I
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  Speaker 2: were texting, Kevin Petulo's doing a great job.
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  Speaker 3: Look at this offense.
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  Speaker 2: They're they're running like they're doing all of these things,
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  Speaker 2: and then they come out and they start throwing the
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  Speaker 2: ball in a monsoon. Yes, and it's it's not smart plays.
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  Speaker 2: Like if you look at the coordinating efforts in the
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  Speaker 2: second half between Buffalo and Philadelphia, Buffalo wasn't really except
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  Speaker 2: for that last drive when they had to. They weren't
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  Speaker 2: bombing it downfield anymore. Right, They're doing short routes. They're
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  Speaker 2: doing exactly what the Eagles did in the first half.
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  Speaker 2: But then for whatever reason in the second half, Kevin
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  Speaker 2: Petulo's like, well, I know we've been running the ball well,
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  Speaker 2: but we're not going to do that anymore, and we're
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  Speaker 2: just gonna start bombs. It's like, why you're up by
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  Speaker 2: thirteen points. Yeah, this makes zero sense anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just tailor two halves. From an offensive perspective, Look,
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  Speaker 1: first half, the Eagles were absolutely incredible. I mean the
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  Speaker 1: defense was also incredible. I mean, we're gonna certainly talk
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  Speaker 1: about them, but the offense being the fact that we're
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  Speaker 1: seeing a tail of two halves again is just ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they couldn't get a first down to save
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  Speaker 1: their life in the third quarter. They started the game
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  Speaker 1: going three to five on third down and then subsequently
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  Speaker 1: went I think it was oh of eight on third down.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's what it was. Oh And they didn't
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  Speaker 1: have a completion in the second half at all. They
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  Speaker 1: had no completion at all. Jalen Ertz didn't have a completion.
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  Speaker 1: So it's just it's amazing to me how the defense
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  Speaker 1: has had to in my theme going forward here, amazing
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  Speaker 1: how the defense had to completely pick this team up
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  Speaker 1: the first half. The Eagles defense was incredible, absolutely vicious
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  Speaker 1: in the first half. Not only were they on a
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  Speaker 1: mission with they're tackling, they were making Josh Allen uncomfortable
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  Speaker 1: and uncomfortable a lot throughout the game. Secondary was really
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  Speaker 1: great in coverage first half. They only allowed James Cook
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  Speaker 1: to rush for thirty nine yards on nine carries. The
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  Speaker 1: Bills had five possessions in the first half, they only
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  Speaker 1: six first downs. Cook came into this game averaging five
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  Speaker 1: point three yards per carry. He ended up averaging three
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  Speaker 1: point seven yards per carry. Seventy four yards on twenty
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  Speaker 1: carries is long being ten. The Eagles defense did their
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  Speaker 1: job and then some and then some. In this game.
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  Speaker 1: We can talk about Moro Jomo, who has at one
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  Speaker 1: point he had the most sacks of an Eagles defensive
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  Speaker 1: player with six on the season. What was interesting he
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  Speaker 1: and Jalx Hunt going back and forth with each other
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  Speaker 1: because earlier the game, Jylex Hunt had a sack brought
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  Speaker 1: his sack total to five point five sacks on the
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  Speaker 1: season at that point, most by any Eagles player this season.
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  Speaker 1: Then we had Moro Ojomo get a sack going back,
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  Speaker 1: took his sack total to six, and then it was
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  Speaker 1: I think Jaylex Hunt getting another sack and now he's
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  Speaker 1: at six point five. They were going back and forth.
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  Speaker 1: So that was actually fun to watch. But this Eagles defense,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they were on fire. I mean they were
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  Speaker 1: tackling like freaking missiles out there. And the fact that
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  Speaker 1: Vic Fango has this young crew playing at the high
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  Speaker 1: level that they are. This is championship caliber defensive play
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  Speaker 1: here week in and week out. And it concerns me
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  Speaker 1: that that Kevin Patulo and specifically the head coach Nick Siriani,
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  Speaker 1: will allow this to continue happening as the playoffs are
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  Speaker 1: right around the corner here, Josh, because it's not gonna
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  Speaker 1: get any easier because there's some really talented teams in
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  Speaker 1: this NFC. As we know, I don't know if the
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  Speaker 1: defense can actually carry the team completely. We're gonna need
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  Speaker 1: to see a full game from the Eagles offense at
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  Speaker 1: some point down the road here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And for me, you know, I mean, I'm glad
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  Speaker 2: the Birds won, Yes, because I didn't want any comments
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  Speaker 2: or anything like that that the defense blew the game.
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  Speaker 2: So I know one of the previous ones I was on,
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  Speaker 2: somebody made a comment about that we didn't blame the defense.
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  Speaker 3: Or talk about the defense. I love this, I got news.
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  Speaker 2: For you, So that that kind of really took me off.
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  Speaker 2: And so I went and I did an average of
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  Speaker 2: what winning teams offense, what their offense pointant puts up,
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  Speaker 2: and it's twenty six point seven points.
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  Speaker 3: So until we hit.
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  Speaker 2: That threshold, until there's twenty seven points given up by
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  Speaker 2: the defense, I'm not blaming the defense today. If you
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  Speaker 2: hold Josh Allen to fourteen points, there's absolutely no reason
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  Speaker 2: why you can blame the defense. Yeah, Like that's that
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  Speaker 2: just doesn't happen. I mean, I don't have the bill
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  Speaker 2: schedule in front of me, but I don't know how
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  Speaker 2: many times they've scored fourteen points or fewer this season.
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  Speaker 3: It can't be that many.
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  Speaker 2: So like, I don't I don't want to hear anything
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  Speaker 2: about how the defense almost blewid or anything. The offense
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  Speaker 2: had seventeen points in the second half.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, to hear about whether it's seventeen yards.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Sorry, seventeen yards. Yeah, they couldn't even get their
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  Speaker 2: their seventeen points. Anyway, the Bills had to play in
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  Speaker 2: sav exact weather and they were able to move the ball.
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  Speaker 2: And Vic Fangio and you and I were texting about this.
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  Speaker 2: Vic Fangio, he doesn't play that quote unquote pre event defense,
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  Speaker 2: which is actually allowance defense. And I talked about the fact,
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  Speaker 2: I love the fact that games on the line on
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  Speaker 2: both third and fourth down, He's blitz it, like I
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  Speaker 2: love it. He's only sending one person, But you know what,
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  Speaker 2: it's better than sitting back seven to ten yards.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, when they only needs ten yards.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, So there's As far as I'm concerned, there is
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: really no game this year that the Eagles defense has
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: cost them.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: Absolutely it has been the offense no show.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Real quick, I mean real quick. I mean the Philadelphia
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Eagles offense put up one hundred ninety yards. To contrast
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: that the Buffalo Bills offense they put up three hundred
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: and thirty one yards. The time of possession in this game,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Josh thirty five minutes and fifteen seconds. The Bills had
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: to the Eagles twenty four minutes and forty five seconds.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: So the Bills not only win out in terms of
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: total yards, but they win time of possession average yards
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: per play. The Bills were at four point five yards,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Eagles were at three point five yards. Whoever wins total
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: yards per per play usually ends up winning the game
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: more time nine times out of ten. And that didn't
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: happen here. Yes, because Josh Allen wasn't playing as well
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: down the stret at least to that two point conversion.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: But there is no way that anybody can say, like
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: you're saying that the Eagles defense should be held culpable
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: for anything that happened in this game that adversely affected
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: the Eagles in general. It was all the Eagles offense.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, Saquon Barkley only had sixty eight yards on
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: the ground. And that's another theme as well. Dude, every
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: single rushing play, at least one Eagles offensive lineman was
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: missing their assignment at least one a number of times
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: where there were two and we're talking we're talking Jordan
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Mylotta Landon Dickerson, Cam Jurgens. Of course, you've got Tyler Steen,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: who has struggled here and there throughout the season. Fred Johnson,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: of course, we know his struggles over the past few
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: games as well. But my goodness, at least every single
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: running play there was one offensive lineman that missed their assignment.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: And when that is happening, your run game is not
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: going to be able to get to where it needs
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: to be. I don't care who your running back is.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: It was that was really frustrating.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, and I agree. And it's also going to
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: impact the passing game. Yeah, So why the play design
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: is to keep bombing the ball down the field?
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: It just it's fasting.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: If you can see, if everyone can see that the
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: offensive line is not as good as it normally is
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: year in and year out for the Eagles. Stop bombing
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: it down the field on every single play. You need
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: to start throwing some quicker routes and stop calling screen
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: passes to Aj Brown. I don't understand this fascination with
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: not throwing Like.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Aj Brown is not.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: A speed receiver. He is a possession receiver. He is
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: a throw the ball in contact, he'll make the catch receiver.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: So why is he the one you choose to run
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: the screen pass with instead of DeVante Smith. I don't
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: There's a lot that I really don't understand about the
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: play calling, and.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: It seems to happen all at once.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: It's like when they go conservative, all of a sudden,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: all the baffling play calling happens.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Yes, I don't it does.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: I don't understand it at all. Why don't the Eagles
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: do more hurry up offense?
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: I know when they run tempo they are absolutely successful
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: on the offensive size the ball. They are absolutely successful
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: when they're running tempo. Man, it's incredible.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Like the other thing I I text you this, I
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: did not understand when you see the builds are moving
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: the ball down the field right like they're moving the
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: ball down the field. Why why is Sirianni not calling
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: the time out? Like are you perfectly content with just
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: going to overtime and hoping you win when the team
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: has done nothing offensively the whole game?
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Like I.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Just goes back to Belg's tweet about them get just
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: completely getting out of rhythm and and Sirianni and Kevin
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Patulo being absolutely fine by that. I do want to
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: touch on something else, which was pretty bizarre that the
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: first kickoff of the game, the Eagles kickoff unit was
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: penalized because they weren't lined up correctly. Oh my gosh,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: So what actually happened was Fred Johnson ran onto the
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: field without his helmet, had to hurry back to get
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: his helmet, and then went back onto the field. They're
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: penalized for it. Just unbelievable course of events there. The
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: first three plays of the Eagles offense, they were all
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: passes against one of the best secondaries in a monsoon. Yes, meanwhile,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: the Bills of one of the worst run defenses in
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: the league on the opposite side of things here, So
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: they throw three passes, they go three and out that
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: the Eagles do, then they have to punt. Then on
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: the second drive of the game, they came out with
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: three runs, got a first down by the way, and oh,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: they ended up on a third and eight. They decided
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: to rush Will Shipley on a third and eight, and
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: I had to bring up Will Shipley because I know
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: he's your arch nemesis in this world on these post
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: game shows. Just an unbelievable confluence of decision making. And
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: the Eagles ended up getting going on offense really after
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: that particular drive in the first half. But my goodness,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: just a bizarre play calling. Like you said, the game
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: was so bizarre in so many ways.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, most of the time.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Most of the time, for most teams in the league,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: your first drive you're successful on.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: It's scripted. Please, the Eagles.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Don't factor any It's like they've made up their mind
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: the night before. They don't care what the weather is,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: they don't care what the circumstances are.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: We're just gonna do this.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: And it's like, I'm sitting there, I'm like, Okay, it's
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: another three and out here. We are the team in
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: the league with the most three and outs, and we're
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: starting off with the three and out.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Fantastic.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen is on the other side, So now we've
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: given up a free possession of Josh Allen.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: Great.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: I just so, I've never seen a team, and I've
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: watched a lot of football in my lifetime, I don't
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: ever recall a team being this unsuccessful with their scripted drives.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: It's honestly, at this point, it's amazing. Yeah, it's astounding.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know how this continues to happen week in
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: and week out. The other thing is they put up
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: a graphic which I didn't realize it was this bad,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: but the average yards to go on third down.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: For the Eagles this year is seven seven. I mean,
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: that is just horrendous. Jeff.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: We're not at week three where it's like, okay, you know, no, No,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: we have one game left in the season and we're
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: looking at an average of third and seven.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah on third down. I just that is I thought
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: I was reading it wrong.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: So I had to rewind and I'm like, no, it
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: says season, not you know, game or month.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Yes. Anyway, anyway, this team still ends up finding ways
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: to win and again really coming down to Jalen Hurts,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: not turning over the ball, making good decisions. So we'd
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: love to hear from you. If you're watching on YouTube,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: leave us a comment about your themes in this game.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Let us know what your thoughts are. Josh and I
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: have been talking about here. Do you agree with us?
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Do you disagree with us? Leave us a comment and
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: we'd love to talk about it here on the podcast
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: at some point down the road. So that being said, Buddy,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: before we get to our break and then getting into
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: the grades by unit, do you have any other themes
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: that you want to dive into here? I think we
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: covered a lot.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Can't wait for that scheduled by week next week. No,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, in all seriousness, my main takeaway is this
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: the NFL made a huge mistake by extending the season.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: The game.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: I mean there are almost no games with meaning, yeah,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: it's going to be just an atrocious week of football
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: next week. I mean, congrats, I guess you get one
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: more week of revenue, but it is it is going
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: to be a poor product.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: And not just for the Eagles.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: I'm talking like across the league, and I just there's
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: players today I had nothing to play for and they're
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: getting season and the injuries that are going to carry
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: into next year, and it's just like, Yeah, the NFL
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: season is just too long. Yeah, and we kind of
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: get to this point where I'm like, Okay, I'm ready for,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: you know, the playoffs.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: Ready for anyway?
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well, folks, we are going to take
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: a break here, and when we get back, we're going
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: to grade each unit as we do on our Eagles
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: postgame podcast shows. Stick with us. We will be back
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: in a bit. All right. We are back with our
• 26:29
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• 26:33
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• 26:35
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• 26:38
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• 26:42
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• 26:45
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• 26:52
  Speaker 1: let's get into these grades Jalen Hurts in the quarterback
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: position this week, I'm gonna be giving Jalen Hurts a
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: B minus. The stat sheet absolutely stinks for him. It
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: is not good. I read it before thirteen to twenty seven,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: one hundred and ten yards, four point one yards per attempt,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: one touchdown handed with a rating of seventy one point five.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Not great at all. But again, he didn't turn the
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: ball over, He did not put this Eagles team in
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: a terrible position. He made good decisions even if they
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: even even if we were frustrated that the Eagles were
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: third and eight, third and ten, third and twelve and
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: they couldn't convert for whatever reason. I'm gonna give him
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: a B minus this week? What do you give them?
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: He gets Annus for me a minus? I mean, right,
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: so to me, I'm going to highlights.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw Dak Prescott under the bus here, Okay,
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: that celebrates his three hundred yard games and how many
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: he has per season. Two weeks ago, the Cowboys season
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: is on the line. He throws for like three hundred yards,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: no touchdowns, no interceptions. It was the biggest nothing burger
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: of like three hundred yards I've ever seen in my
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: entire life.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: I don't care that Hurts through for one hundred yards today.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: And to be.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Fair, a number of the passes literally went right through
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: the wide receivers or tight end's hands, Like let's be
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: very very clear, so that like less than fifty percent
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: completion rating isn't really fair.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: And this is where I say stats lie.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: If you look at what Hurts did today, I mean
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: he escapes the pocket, keeps his eyes downfield, and Jeff
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: I talked about the fact that if you really want
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: to see the progression of Hurts, go back and watch
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: his first year starting in the league and watching the
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: last two of this time I'm on, and the last
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: time I was on, I forget what game it was.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: I talked about the same thing. He rolls out with
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: his eyes.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Up field to pass, and he throws a bullet a
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: laser for a first down to AJ Brown where only
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: AJ Brown can get it. And they get the first down.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: He's not tucking and running. He's not you know, he's
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: making smart decisions with the football. I don't care that
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: he throws for one hundred yards. Ye doesn't matter to
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: me because they're impactful yards. It's smart decisions. And he's
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: not turning the ball.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Over right, And I don't think there was one design
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: run today for him too. By the way, I will
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I will actually give the offensive play calling credit for that,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: because you know what, you didn't turn the ball over
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: on any sort of run, So I will give the
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: offensive play calling credit for that. So all right, well,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: let's move to the running back position here. I mean
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley, Tank Bigsby, will Shipley eighty two total yards
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: in terms of the rushes, and that's what Jalen hurts
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: with only five yards rushing on the day. I'm gonna
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: give them a B minus as well. You know, there
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: was only so much they could do with this offensive
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: line not performing well in terms of the run blocking.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: I'm going to give him a B minus. What do
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: you give them?
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: I'll give him a B plus for the same reason
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: that you said, there's only so much you can do
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: with kind of what's there?
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and so I give him a B plus.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's head over to the receivers. It's interesting how
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: you mentioned how these receivers they were missing some balls
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: today and yes, whether it was the elements and the monsoon,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: it was just horrendous conditions. Still to a job to
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: catch the ball. Aj Brown led the receivers seven targets,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: came down with five balls for sixty eight yards. He
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: averaged thirteen point six yards per reception, and DeVante Smith
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: was targeted five times only came down with two balls
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: for twenty five yards. Dallas Goddard had the only receiving
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: touchdown of the day. He was targeted six times only
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: came down with three balls for eight yards. And you
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: had Darius Cooper with a catch for four yards, Grant
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Calcatara with a catch for three yards, Tank Bigsby with
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: a one catch for two yards as well. The receivers. Man,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna give him. I'm gonna give him a straight
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: up c this week, Like you said, there were too
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: many balls that were going through hands, too many balls
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: that should have been caught. I'm gonna give him a CE.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: What do you give him?
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Uh, CC plus for me.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna give him a B minus because the Elements. Yeah,
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: and I'll say that by also saying this, the Eagles
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: need to resign Dallas Goddard.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: It's got to be a priority.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: I know you're wearing Jalen Carter jersey, but for me,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: I'm holding off on Payton. He hasn't been spectacular this year.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: When he was out, the Eagles were fine. I think
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: you have too many players Nakobe Dean that you need
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: to resign, and Dallas Goddard. They have no tight end
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: option that can block and catch like he can, and
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: he he's their red zone target and to let him
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: walk for nothing, I think would be really really dumb.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: All right, Let's move to the offensive line. Boy, again,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: they were so tough in terms of run blocking and
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: pass protection. Man, that pocket ended up collapsing very quickly
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: in this game. Again, could be the Elements have to
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: go back and watch the film. But I'm going to
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: be giving the offensive line this week a C minus. Actually,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: what are you going to be given him?
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Josh? So generally, when I do my grade, I talk
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: about the fact how spoiled we are, YadA, YadA, Yes,
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: my tune is changing this week. Yeah, the defensive or
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: the offensive line gets a D from me.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: Okay, And the only reason why.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: It's not an F is because they wound up winning
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: the game. I know Lane Johnson is out, but he's
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: been out for a while. They they need to figure
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: something out because there are players like Jordan may Alatta I.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: He doesn't even look like remotely the same player. Yes,
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: last year.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know what planet he's on or what game
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: he thinks he's playing. It's bad, and I get the
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: WYP can't really talk about it because he's on their shows.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: What he's he's been bad, I mean not even aver,
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: he's been bad this year. You shouldn't be equivalent to
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: a backup offensive tackle and that's basically the level he's
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: been playing at. Yeah, the offensive line, like Staltlin University,
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: needs to start going to school because we're running out
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: of time and this offensive line, it feels like it's
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: getting worse as the season is going.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah, I'm surprised Cam Jurgens actually made the Pro Bowl, Like,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: I honestly.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: Couldn't believe it because.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Man, he not only in this game, but we've seen
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: it in other games too. Man, Cam Jurgens struggles a
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: lot on rushing plays when Jalen Hurts is actually under center.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: In this game, there was one particular play in the
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: third quarter where Cam Jurgens got absolutely dusted on a
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley rushing play where Barkley ended up losing like
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: four yards. It was, it was, it was ridiculous. But yeah,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: I think it's late in the season to quote figure
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: out what's going on. But Lane Johnson really is the
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: glue for this offensive line. When he gets back, my
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: expectation is we're going to see some sem blints of
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: some more cohesive offensive line play. That that's my thought.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: So let's move over to the defensive side of the
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: ball here, buddy, defensive line, I mean, I mean they
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: were making Josh Allen feel uncomfortable. That's what you wanted.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Five sacks on the day, six quarterback hits. There were
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: seven tackles for loss. My gosh, who I should say?
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: We usually see Zach Bond at the top of.
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: The total tackles excuse me as a total tackles on
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: the on the on the stat sheet here, it's actually
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: Marcus Epsen to Cooper's gene somehow.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: But I think that this defensive line still was so dominant,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: constant pressure. Absolutely love what Jalen Phillips did today three
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: solo tackles, one sack, one tackle for a loss as well,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Moro Jomo. We mentioned Jlex Hunt. I'm gonna give them
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: an A. What do you give them?
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: I give them an A and I'm a so you
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: can give Howie Roseman and a plus here because I
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: wanted to work this in. Do you remember how upset
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: everybody was when the Eagles drafted Jaylex Sun?
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: Just asking, Yeah, because.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: If I went on Twitter today, which I did, Man,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: it's amazing. He's like everyone's favorite player now. I think
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: it's safe to say when it comes to offensive lineman
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: and it comes to defensive lineman, just trust Howie. He's
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: not perfect with every position, right, but in terms of
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: those two positions, I don't know that anyone has a
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: better hit rate with specific positions.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: Joe knows the same way. Remember everybody's upset.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: They let Knowlton Williams walk like they let all these
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: players walk.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: Guess what the level of production is about the same.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: They may not be getting the stat numbers, but you
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: know what, they're causing a ton of pressure and making
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: things very uncomfortable, So I kind of want to go back. Actually,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: let's use this as a learning experience for moving forward.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: When the Eagles make a mid d don't especially if
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: it's on the offensive and defensive line, just like wait
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: to see how things unfold, because you could be getting
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: a very good player like jaylksn yep, if you're just patient.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, and developed him too. I mean he's been
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: developing over these years as well. And that's that's that's
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: what this defense has done under Vic Fangio here. The
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: development of this young crew is absolutely amazing. And we
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: look at the linebacker position, what are grade is going
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: to be now for this particular unit. And I just
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: absolutely loved the incredible awareness of where the ball was
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: when Jihad Campbell recovered that fumble in the first quarter
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: which led to the eagles first touchdown of the game.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Interesting how they By the way, I just want to
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: mention this, when the Eagles were essentially going forward on
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: the goal line and they were looking to get into
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: the end zone for the first time, they abandoned the
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: tush push at the goal line. I forgot to mention
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: that earlier. In terms of the off offensive stuff but
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: it was right after Jehad Campbell was able to get
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: that fumble recovery. It was incredible aware and his Zach
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Bond playing his tail off in this game, linebackers are
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: going to get an A for me. What do you
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: give him?
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: They get they get an A plus for me.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: I've seen people complaining about John Campbell and.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: We's got to get out there and play.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: I don't I don't understand that every time he is
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: on the field. If you go back to that fumbel recovery,
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: he's not even the closest person no that football. But
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: what he does is he gives everything he has and
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: he's the one that recovers it. He also has an
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: incredible pass breakup. Like I don't think people understand that
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: linebackers should not be able to follow wide receivers slot
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: wide receivers. Yeah, and have break past breakups.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: That's not normal. That's why he's a first round talent.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: So, like I get into Kobe Dean is playing out
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: of his mind. I just said they need to resign him, right.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Vic Fangio needs to find a way. They need to
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: move out of the five defensive back set to get
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: three linebackers on the field because John Campbell can cover
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: the slot wide receiver if they run over the middle
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: of the field, and personally, I don't want to see
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: someone that size coming after.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: Me running over the middle of the field. They get
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: an A for me. And same thing.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: I saw people saying that Bond is not playing that
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: well this year.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Get the heck out of here.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: I have a really hard time with that.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I struggle with that because I think he's
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: playing great. I think he's playing exactly what you paid
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: him for play, and I think he's the captain of
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: that defense, and with a defense that has lost a
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: lot of leadership over the years, you need somebody to
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: do that, and he seems to have stepped into that role.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: They get an A plus for me.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. All right, let's move on to the secondary before
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: we get into our coaching. Secondary this week was just
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: absolutely everywhere as well. Yes, they gave up some larger
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: pass plays here and there. There was the Brandon Cooks
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: fifty yarder that was given up. Tyrrell Shavers had a
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: thirty two yarder as well that we know, But still,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, this secondary really did
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: play a lot of lights out. Yes, Josh Allen had
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty two yards on thirty five pass attempts.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: He completed twenty three of them, an average seven point
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: five yards per attempt. But really, I mean they I
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: thought the secondary played so well for being such a
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: young crew, and they continue to do it like week
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: after week, whether it's Quinnon, Mitchell, Cooper, Dejen. Dorri Jackson
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: did give up some yards today, but he wasn't an
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Achilles heel of this secondary. Marcus EP's playing well read
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: blanket ship too. I'm gonna give him an a What
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: do you give the secondary?
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: They get a name from me and to talk about
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: a Dorri Jackson like this is where I'm gonna push
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: back on you a little bit.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: Okay, Dorri Jackson's been good. I think vic Fango has
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: figured out how to use him and in what way
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: to use him.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: And Dori Jackson has been good, has been since like
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: week six on. He has been good. So I would
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: be okay if the Eagles brought him back. I think
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: that he fits well on the other side of Mitchell.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: And I'm also going to bring up officiating here because
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: you want about this, you want to complain about the
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: officiating and this is what I'll say. That wasn't past
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: interference on Mitchell. But I don't want to hear about officiating.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: To me, the weakest thing for a fan to do
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: is to complain about officiating, because you know what, even
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: on the questionable calls, the Buffalo Bill's got goose egg
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: of points and the Eagles still won the game. So
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: it's almost like, yes, there's bad officiating, and you know what,
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: they miss calls the benefit of the Bills as well.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Guess what, that's what happens. I say it pretty much
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: every time I'm on here. I don't want to hear
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: about officiating. I think it's cop out. I hate it.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: I can't stand it. Your team needs to play. Unless
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: your team has played a absolutely perfect game, don't start
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: with the refereeing because it's it's every team, every fan.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Everyone thinks the refs are against them. I got news
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: for you. There's Bills fans that are saying today the
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: also the game. No, your quarterback cost you the game.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: That's why you lost the game. It's like, anyway, I'm
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: gonna get off my tangent here. That was not past
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: interference on Mitchell, but the refs had Eagles.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: Won the game.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Well maybe the Bills lost the game, but anyway, either way,
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: it was one of the two teams that decided.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: Not the officiating.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let's get into some special teams here because
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: I know we can go back and forth on that,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: because I just want to see consistency with officiating at
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: the end.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: It's never going to happen. I know it's not. It
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: will never happened.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: A boy can dream, So as we go.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: Is that all you want for Christmas?
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Check? That's it that I didn't get it this year. Yeah,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: I gotta wait till twenty twenty six Christmas. All right,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Special teams and coaching. The fact again that we talked
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: about before the break, Fred Johnson ran onto the field
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: without helmet, had to hurry off and then went back
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: is absolutely incredible. And then we have Jake Elliott. He
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: made a forty seven yarder in this game. In the
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: second quarter. We also had on a punt a punt return.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: We had Cameron Latu completely screwed up an amazing, an
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: amazing Braden Man punt that actually landed at the one
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: yard line. Folks. LA two didn't need to try to
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: down it like he did because the ball was already
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: not moving at that point. Then he touches the ball
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: and just slightly steps on the goal line freaking what
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: a freaking dope and the ball comes out to the twenty.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: So that's gonna that's gonna inh gonna decrease the grade
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: that I'm going to be giving as well. Then you
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: got Jalen Carter blocking an extra point towards the end
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: of the game with just over five minutes left. I
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: think it's a second point after or field goal block
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: on the season. He had one earlier this season as well.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna give special teams this week a straight up
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: B and a lot of that. It would have been
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: an A. It would have been an A. But Cameron
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Law too in a stupid freaking punt situation, brought it
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: down a grade for me. What do you give special teams?
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: I give him a B.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: So two separate grades because we don't do special team coordinators. Yes,
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: so special teams coordinator. As long as you keep putting
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: will Shipley out there and trying to make Willshipley a thing, you're.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: Getting an F for me. I'm gonna quote.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Mean girls here, stop trying to make fetch happen stop
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: trying to make will Shipley happen. It's not working right,
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: stop it, just stop it so you you get an
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: S the rest of the special teams. I'm actually going
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: to give an A because for me, even though there
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: was that one really dumb play, Breton Man.
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: Maybe the MVP of this game.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: It might yes, I mean really if he had a
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: really last time.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: I was on, he had a lousy game.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: Yes, the Eagles do not win today if he is
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: not punting as well as he's punting right, and so
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: he may be my MVP of the game because he
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: flipped the field a number of times today.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Well, as we move on to the defense, Vic Fangio's getting.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: A Jake Elliott.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, j j Elliott made everything today. Looks like
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: he's got his head on straight. Great, fantastic.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: I hope, let's hope if it happens, let's hope that
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: still happens in the playoffs with him. Oh God, from
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: my lips to God's ears. So in terms of the defense,
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: Vic Fangio is getting an A plus from me. I
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: mean it's it seems to be a consistent A plus
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: because the guy's one of the best defensive coaches in
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: the league always putting these guys in a really good
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: position A plus for me, what do you give.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Them a plus? And I'm thankful that he's older. And
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: then he's talked about the fact that he doesn't want
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: to leave Philadelphia, so he's probably not going to get
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: any calls this coach and go around like I can
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: see Vic being here for another five seven years.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: Yes, he he just.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: Loves it here. And he's just every week he gets
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: a NYE. I mean, it's just he changes schemes every week,
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: like it's unbelievable. Anyway, maybe KP should take some notes
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: on what it's like to do different things.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, it would be nice. Yeah, it'd be great. And
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: as we grade the offensive coaching, Nick Sirianni and Kevin Petulo,
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be giving them a D this week. And
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: really it's because of the second half they did. They
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: did not do this team any favors in the second half. Yes,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: it was a tale of two halves. And in fact,
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: you and I were texting with each other the fact
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: that for what s like, for what seemed to be
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: an entire season, where always kicking Kevin Petolo's ass on
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: a weekly basis. Rightfully so, but man, his play calling
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: given the weather conditions in the first half was very effective.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: And then they completely go conservative like we talked about
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: before the break, and it put this team and the
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: pressure on this defense to do what it did. I'm
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: actually gonna give them a D this week because I
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: am hired of this stuff. Saw it in the Dallas game,
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: saw it in the Denver game as well, the same crap.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: That's not how you're going to win in the playoffs
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: against some formidable teams. I'm giving them a D. What
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: do you give them?
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: I'm going to give him a D with an asterisk. Okay,
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: the asterisk being that you and I are not allowed
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: to praise Kevin Patullo anymore because I think we are
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: the reason why everything changed in the second half because
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: we gave him ami so much at the end of
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: the first half.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: So it's a D with an asterisk with it being
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: our fault.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: All right, All right, Well, that was a great postgame show.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: It really was. I love your Kelly Green Jason Kelsey jersey.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: I've got my brand new Jalen Carter jersey that I
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: got for Christmas. My wife was very nice and got
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: this for me. We've got our you're watching on YouTube,
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: We've got our Kelly Green uh A design here, and
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: it's fabulous. This Philadelphia Eagles team is elevel and five.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: My goodness, the way this team has played up and
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: down all season, it really is amazing Josh eleven and
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: five and yeah, crazy they can still actually get the
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: number two seed possibly. I mean yeah, they made to
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: win next week against the Washington Commanders and the Bears
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: need to lose these next two games, so and they
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: could get the number two seed. Amazing. So that's it, buddy,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: Do you have anything else before I let you go here?
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: Now, one of these weeks, I'll rock my black alshon
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: Jeffrey the only person that still wears an alshon Jeffrey Jersey,
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: and I've talked openly about my love of South Carolina.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: He's one of my all time favorite players.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: He should be, so anyway, one of these days I'll
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: rock it, because I if I'm doing postgame, I normally
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: don't because I don't want to see comments. Chersey, Well,
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: clearly it's your first time listening because I openly talk
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: about my love of South Carolina football.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: So and by the way, if there is anybody that
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: caught through or ran for a touchdown in the eagles
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: first Super Bowl win. Ever, I don't care. You can
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: wear that jersey. You could wear a Corey Clement jersey.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: I don't care. You can wear a Corey Clement jersey
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: all you want because he caught a touchdown pass in
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: that first Eagles Super Bowl victory. Hey, I don't care
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: who it is, so aushon Jeffrey Catching catching a touchdown
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: in that game. You can wear it. It's perfectly valid
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: and it should be it absolutely should wear it next time.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: My friend, there you go, all right, I'll wear it
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: next time. I'll wear it next time.
• 48:31
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• 48:33
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