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10-19-26 Hour 1 - WILD NFL & NCAA football weekend/Aqib Talib vs Ryan Fitzpatrick/Can Avs keep Lehky? · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is Mosher Lombardi and Kane on demand. Listen live
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  Speaker 1: every weekday morning from 7 to 10 on Altitude Sports
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  Speaker 2: It's a Rally House Football Monday on Altitude Sports Radio.
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  Speaker 2: Rally House shop every team in town. And what a
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  Speaker 2: weekend of football that it was. We got to chill.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't have the high-stress Broncos late-game situations, but a
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  Speaker 2: lot of other teams did. And I would like to
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  Speaker 2: start in the college football realm because.
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  Speaker 3: Stop right there. Stop right there. Please tell me, please,
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  Speaker 3: for those of you who make this argument as I
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  Speaker 3: broadcast live from a loony bin, please tell me that
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  Speaker 3: you cannot agree with me more. College football, the product,
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  Speaker 3: is more entertaining than the NFL product.
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  Speaker 2: Last weekend was great. It's not like the NFL was
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  Speaker 2: bad yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: The NFL was great, too. I'm not saying it's bad.
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  Speaker 3: No one said it's bad. But it's second rate to
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  Speaker 3: the college product.
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  Speaker 4: It is.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, on a weekend like that, yeah, the college
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  Speaker 2: football weekend was better. On this last weekend, it was. Now,
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  Speaker 2: can I start with this, though? Because this will relate
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  Speaker 2: directly to what you're talking about. College football has always
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  Speaker 2: been a sport in which if a weekend like this happens...
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  Speaker 2: This now changes the landscape of everything. It's teams that
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  Speaker 2: got upset, now don't have shots at national titles, their
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  Speaker 2: college football playoff status is up in the air. Typically,
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  Speaker 2: that's been the sport. It's changed since then. It's going
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  Speaker 2: to change even more next year. And here's my question.
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  Speaker 2: For a weekend that had the number one team go down,
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  Speaker 2: the number two team go down, the number three team
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  Speaker 2: was pushed to the brink, the number six team lost,
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  Speaker 2: the number seven team lost, All in the same weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Is it going to feel the same next year when
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  Speaker 2: it's a 2014 playoff? Will you still feel what you felt,
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  Speaker 2: which is, oh my God, this weekend in college football
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  Speaker 2: is crazy. And to be honest, this is a terrible
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  Speaker 2: radio answer. I don't know. I don't know if it will.
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  Speaker 2: It might. I think it probably will. But it'll take
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  Speaker 2: some of the sting out of it, won't it?
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure what you're asking me.
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  Speaker 2: When teams like that lose... Texas is now a two-loss team.
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  Speaker 2: Bama is now a two-loss team. They might not make
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  Speaker 2: the playoff now. They'd certainly make it next year regardless.
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  Speaker 2: That's my point. The impact of a weekend like that,
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  Speaker 2: will it be the same next year when they go
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  Speaker 2: to 24 teams in the playoff?
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  Speaker 3: Well, no. But, I mean, aren't you the guy that
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  Speaker 3: says the more the merrier?
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  Speaker 2: No, I think in college football, 24 is a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Like, that's a lot of teams. Yeah, I mean, what
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  Speaker 3: it's going to do is diminish the regular season. That's all.
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  Speaker 3: It's going to diminish the regular season. When you add
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  Speaker 3: 24 teams now, games like that, weekends like the one
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  Speaker 3: we just witnessed, they won't be as consequential.
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  Speaker 4: Correct.
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  Speaker 3: You won't feel it. You're exactly right there.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm saying, will that ruin it for you? Or
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  Speaker 2: will you still like, if the number one, two, six,
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  Speaker 2: and seven teams lose, will you still be like, whoa,
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  Speaker 2: that's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? It just won't be as consequential.
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  Speaker 3: Because now you're wondering, Alabama has no room for error. Right.
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  Speaker 3: They got to be lucky to get in. Texas has
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  Speaker 3: no room for error. They got to be lucky to
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  Speaker 3: get in. They got to win out. So if you
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  Speaker 3: go to a 2014, maybe that goes away.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know what's weird, Moj, is that... Hi, Moj.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just sitting here like A.J. Hawk on the
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  Speaker 3: McAfee show. Where are you broadcasting from, Moj? I'm broadcasting
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  Speaker 3: from the city of brotherly love. And by the way.
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  Speaker 2: Why didn't you say carpet?
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  Speaker 3: Chair?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you.
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  Speaker 3: You're welcome.
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  Speaker 4: I'm in the city of brotherly love. Got a game tonight, obviously. Brett,
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  Speaker 4: I heard you talking about that. Look, Georgia gets upset
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  Speaker 4: by Auburn and a great football game. I'm tired of
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  Speaker 4: you sort of pitting things against me.
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  Speaker 3: Agree with me. Agree with me.
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  Speaker 4: Chocolate ice cream is way better than vanilla. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: they're both good, but chocolate is better. And if you
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  Speaker 4: don't agree with me, then you might as well be
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  Speaker 4: chained to a radiator and beaten.
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  Speaker 3: With a rubber hose. I just don't understand. In the
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  Speaker 3: middle of a collegiate game, like a concert breaks out,
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  Speaker 3: people go crazy. It's just so much more entertaining.
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  Speaker 4: I've been to a billion college football games, and I've
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  Speaker 4: been to a billion pro football games, and I'm telling
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  Speaker 4: you right now, Brett, I would much rather go to
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  Speaker 4: a college football game.
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  Speaker 3: It's not even close.
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  Speaker 4: The environment is just so much more fun, and it's better,
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  Speaker 4: and it's just killer. That being said, there were some
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  Speaker 4: great pro games. But listen, Georgia's going to be fine.
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  Speaker 4: The Irish, I think, are probably going to be fine
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  Speaker 4: despite that loss. They've got to beat Miami, which is
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  Speaker 4: probably a big task. But, yeah, next year when you
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  Speaker 4: go to 24, a lot of this will dissipate. There
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  Speaker 4: won't be as much angst and anger because these teams
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  Speaker 4: will all stay in the top 25.
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  Speaker 3: It's no big deal.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so here's the other thing. Two different things that
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  Speaker 2: happened in the way the college football games finished. And, Vic,
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  Speaker 2: I'll give you your two minutes on the end of
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  Speaker 2: the Notre Dame game. You start.
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  Speaker 3: Go ahead. I don't need two minutes. They got outplayed.
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  Speaker 3: It shouldn't come down to that. This whole season for
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  Speaker 3: Notre Dame was about not leaving a doubt. The anger
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  Speaker 3: that emanated from last season when they didn't get into
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  Speaker 3: the CFP. Every game this year was supposed to be
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  Speaker 3: a journey of leaving no doubt. So they left out.
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  Speaker 3: They allowed themselves to come down to the final moments.
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  Speaker 3: And had they been able to finish drives earlier in
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  Speaker 3: the game off of turnovers, the quarterback can spike the
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  Speaker 3: ball correctly. Comes to find out that there was an
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  Speaker 3: illegal play on that. But whatever. BYU deserves full credit.
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  Speaker 3: BYU deserves the game. I am not going to sit
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  Speaker 3: here and tell you they didn't. So I don't care
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  Speaker 3: about the P.I. I don't care about the second on
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  Speaker 3: the clock. Win the game convincingly. We're not having this conversation.
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  Speaker 2: I actually I really appreciate that answer. And I will
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  Speaker 2: say this on that play. I don't mind the non P.I.
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  Speaker 3: Call.
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  Speaker 2: It looks like they both had full hands worth of
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  Speaker 2: each other's arms. I don't mind that the hand fighting thing.
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  Speaker 3: It was it was a P.I. Any other part of
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  Speaker 3: the game they're going to call P.I. there.
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  Speaker 2: You're right. You're right. I do leave some room late
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  Speaker 2: in the game for, like, not doing calls like that. But, Vic,
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  Speaker 2: you can't have the wrong call with time left on
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  Speaker 2: the clock for the second time in a marquee game
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  Speaker 2: this year.
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  Speaker 3: It can't happen. You know, the whole time on the
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  Speaker 3: clock thing. But hang on, Vic.
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  Speaker 2: I know you don't care because you're like, we got outplayed.
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  Speaker 2: The reality of the matter is it doesn't mean that
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  Speaker 2: Notre Dame's going to win. You can't have that happen.
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  Speaker 2: There's a second left. Run another play. You can't end
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  Speaker 2: the game.
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  Speaker 3: It's silly. Yeah, you know, I've been telling all my
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  Speaker 3: Notre Dame friends that loss at the end of the
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  Speaker 3: day might be a good thing because teams that lose
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  Speaker 3: like that, especially on the road, of all the losses,
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  Speaker 3: to be honest with you, of all the losses of
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  Speaker 3: how many teams lost in the top ten? How many
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  Speaker 3: were there? I think it was six out of ten.
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  Speaker 3: Six out of ten?
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  Speaker 2: Indiana and Ohio State was four and five.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they were playing each other. Okay. So, Indiana's loss...
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  Speaker 3: was one of those, oh my gosh, you lost at
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  Speaker 3: home and you lost to a really good team. I
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  Speaker 3: thought Notre Dame's loss was probably the best loss of
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  Speaker 3: the weekend. And it's a stupid thing for me to say,
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  Speaker 3: but you lose on the road a number eight. There
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  Speaker 3: were three of those teams that lost at home. Losing
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  Speaker 3: at home is a different deal. You lose on the
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  Speaker 3: road to number eight. There's nothing shameful about that loss.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing at all. And I think if you come back
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  Speaker 3: and beat Miami... In a couple weeks. That's fine. But
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  Speaker 3: a lot of those teams are thinking the same way.
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  Speaker 3: Texas's loss at home?
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 3: Can't do that.
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  Speaker 2: No, that's terrible.
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  Speaker 3: You can't do that, right? Miami almost lost to unranked
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  Speaker 3: Florida State. Georgia lost to unranked Auburn at home. Again.
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  Speaker 2: Hold on a second. That ending to the Florida State
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  Speaker 2: game was infuriating to me.
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  Speaker 3: How do they call that holding?
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  Speaker 2: How do they call that holding?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's just the same thing. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the plays at the end of a game, flags that
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  Speaker 3: come out, flags that don't come out, that result in
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  Speaker 3: the outcome of a game are always going to drive
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  Speaker 3: you crazy. Miami and Florida State, a rivalry game, that's
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  Speaker 3: a little different. But the one to me that makes
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  Speaker 3: the least sense, unranked Auburn at Georgia. Yeah. Explain that
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  Speaker 3: one to me. Great game, man. Great game.
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  Speaker 4: I was fixated on that game. Great football game. And
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  Speaker 4: what I don't want to hear, Moshe, Moshe, oh, well,
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  Speaker 4: it's the SEC. I don't care what it is. No,
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  Speaker 4: Auburn is not that good of a team, even in
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  Speaker 4: the SEC. And somehow they managed to pull it out,
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  Speaker 4: mostly because their running game, it got on track pretty good.
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  Speaker 4: They rushed for almost two bills. It was just a
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  Speaker 4: damn good football game. But to win between the hedges
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  Speaker 4: in Athens– Is huge for anybody.
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  Speaker 3: And to win the line of scrimmage. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And so to beat a number one, anytime you go
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  Speaker 4: on the road and you beat a one in their joint,
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  Speaker 4: it's a huge, huge dub.
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  Speaker 3: Huge.
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  Speaker 2: This is another thing I had written down, by the way.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm so glad you mentioned that, Vic. We cannot, guys,
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  Speaker 2: do not allow people who say this to get away
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  Speaker 2: with it. Don't do it. Don't allow them to say
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  Speaker 2: when Georgia has a terrible loss at home to Auburn
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  Speaker 2: that this is SEC football and this is what happens.
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  Speaker 2: We beat up on each other. This is why we're
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  Speaker 2: the greatest conference in the country. Don't allow them to
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  Speaker 2: do that because no other conference would get that benefit
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  Speaker 2: of the doubt. Nobody else would. And there's things that
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  Speaker 2: happen in this college football weekend that I, again, a
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  Speaker 2: healthy exercise is to look at things from the opposite perspective.
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  Speaker 2: For example, Vic, if... Notre Dame and BYU were flipped.
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  Speaker 2: If that was BYU that didn't get that last second
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  Speaker 2: back for another play, people would be saying that college
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  Speaker 2: football is rigged. I'd probably be one of them, to
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  Speaker 2: be honest with you. I probably would. And the fact
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  Speaker 2: that it was the other way around was an odd thing.
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  Speaker 2: When people do the SEC football thing and well I
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  Speaker 2: know Auburn was unranked but guys when you have just
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  Speaker 2: the trials and tribulations.
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  Speaker 4: Of the SEC schedule if four and two Wisconsin went
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  Speaker 4: to Columbus and beat number one Ohio State Ain't nobody going, well,
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  Speaker 4: the Big Ten, they beat up on each other. But
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  Speaker 4: that loss would look worse.
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  Speaker 3: It absolutely would. Now, you know, the weekend taught me
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  Speaker 3: just how much closer the competition is at the top.
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  Speaker 3: When I say the top, I'm talking about the teams
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  Speaker 3: that have the ability to build. Teams that have the
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  Speaker 3: ability to build rosters. Auburn, they're not good. Excuse me
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  Speaker 3: for one second, please. Is that your secretary?
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  Speaker 2: You know what? I have not heard.
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  Speaker 3: I've never heard a hotel phone ring.
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  Speaker 2: A rotary phone like that.
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  Speaker 3: Why didn't he just take the call live?
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  Speaker 2: He should have.
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  Speaker 3: But what I was saying is, the top teams, the
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  Speaker 3: ones that are in it, and you know what I
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  Speaker 3: mean by that, the teams that are in it to
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  Speaker 3: win it, they have the capability of beating you any
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  Speaker 3: given weekend.
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  Speaker 2: For sure.
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  Speaker 3: Any given weekend. In Provo, that was their biggest home
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  Speaker 3: win ever. They beat a number two team ever in
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  Speaker 3: their history.
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Greatest one in franchise history.
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  Speaker 3: And you know what? You know what? They would have
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  Speaker 3: beaten a lot of teams. Yes. A lot of teams.
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  Speaker 3: Because that's a good team.
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  Speaker 2: Very.
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  Speaker 3: There's no shame in it. Auburn winning at Georgia. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know what to say. I don't know what to
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  Speaker 3: tell you. I don't know if Auburn could go on
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  Speaker 3: the road. What I don't want to hear is, oh,
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  Speaker 3: it's the SEC.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 3: No, you don't get that every week. You don't get
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  Speaker 3: that excuse every week.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you this much. You thought this way, Vic.
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  Speaker 2: I thought this way, Moj.
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  Speaker 3: You did, too.
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  Speaker 2: That Indiana, who hasn't lost a game since Cignetti took over, essentially.
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  Speaker 2: That they weren't the same Indiana team from last year.
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  Speaker 2: They weren't quite national championship level. They barely beat Nebraska.
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  Speaker 2: They were going to get beat by Ohio State. The
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  Speaker 2: fact that they were a foot out of bounds... from
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  Speaker 2: taking that game again. Like, I don't care what you
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  Speaker 2: say about Indiana. Kurt Cignetti is unbelievable. What he's able
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  Speaker 2: to get out of his players, he is unbelievable as
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  Speaker 2: head coach. Because you just look straight talent. Indiana's a
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  Speaker 2: good football team. They don't have Ohio State. Ohio State's
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  Speaker 2: a great football team. Yeah, they don't have that talent.
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  Speaker 2: And think about what they were half a foot from
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  Speaker 2: winning that game.
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  Speaker 3: Right. So, as we continue on with the show here,
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  Speaker 3: I'm live in Philadelphia. What makes this... What was the
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  Speaker 3: phone call? Just curious.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I have two Ethernet ports in my room, and
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  Speaker 4: they both work for about a minute, then it kicks
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  Speaker 4: me off. So I'm on a different device right now
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  Speaker 4: because I can feel this happening. Well, I'm sitting here
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  Speaker 4: at a house, some random home, and I'm able to da-ba-da-ba-da.
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  Speaker 3: I'm in a loony bin right now. I am literally
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  Speaker 3: in a loony bin, able to technically pull this off
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  Speaker 3: without any strings attached. You do look like you're being
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  Speaker 3: incarcerated right now. That's what it does look like.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, wait, Moshe. Here's what happened. Notre Dame lost. Vic
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  Speaker 2: was raging about non-PIs in the second left on the clock,
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  Speaker 2: and they had to commit him, and now he's already
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  Speaker 2: been reversed mentally.
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  Speaker 3: Here's the difference between guys like me and you. When
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  Speaker 3: my teams lose, I don't find stupid excuses. Was I
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  Speaker 3: mad about the non-PI?
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: But it's not the reason they lost the game. They
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  Speaker 3: lost the game because they couldn't finish drives in the
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  Speaker 3: red zone. There's other reasons you lose games. It's not
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  Speaker 3: always the final play. It's not always the final second.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody focuses on that, but there's other reasons you lose.
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  Speaker 3: There's something going on within the game that forces you
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  Speaker 3: to get to that point. They should have beaten that
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  Speaker 3: team by 14 points. They had plenty of opportunities, and
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  Speaker 3: they couldn't finish drives. C.J. Cardin used the middle of
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  Speaker 3: the field. I'm watching the C.U. game. C.U. had opportunities
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  Speaker 3: to win that game. By the way, give it up
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  Speaker 3: for C.U. Give it up for the Buffs for at
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  Speaker 3: least being competitive. And I know that's a field day comment,
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  Speaker 3: but at least it was competitive. I totally agree. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I thought they were going to get blown out. They
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  Speaker 3: did not.
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  Speaker 4: So that's, I guess, listen to us now. That's a
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  Speaker 4: win when they don't get blown out by a division rival.
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  Speaker 3: That's a number 10 team. That's a number 11. Number 11.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's a good team. Whatever they are now, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's a very good team.
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  Speaker 2: It's a bigger credit to me. Look, CU's last three
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  Speaker 2: weeks have been pretty miserable. Okay, they get blown out
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  Speaker 2: by Northwestern, then they have the playbook stuff, and they
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  Speaker 2: have changes in quarterbacks, and things don't look good, and
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  Speaker 2: they're the butt of the joke again. When that's the
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  Speaker 2: wave that you're riding, and then you go down early
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  Speaker 2: to a team that's number 11 in the country, it
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  Speaker 2: would be easy to see a team like that sort
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  Speaker 2: of fold, and they didn't. And I think that's a
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  Speaker 2: big credit to them. I mean, Deion said it after
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  Speaker 2: the game, too.
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  Speaker 5: I did something I never do after loss. I stood
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  Speaker 5: up down the podium and told those kids, I'm really
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  Speaker 5: proud of y'all, man. Because they fought. They didn't give up.
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  Speaker 5: They had a chance. And I just knew we wouldn't
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  Speaker 5: have got that last penalty. That was a great play
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  Speaker 5: by Isaac, by the way. But I just knew Elliott
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  Speaker 5: was going to hit that field goal. And we was
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  Speaker 5: going to go into overtime. And he wanted it.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's totally right. By the way, Isaac Wilson
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  Speaker 2: is better than Juju.
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  Speaker 5: That too.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: Doesn't mean Juju can't get better. He's still young.
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but it seems to me that that ship has
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: sailed now. He's going to want out. I mean, this
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: is it for him at Colorado. So there's no putting
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: that toothpaste back in that tube. So you're going to
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: have to find another quarterback or whatever the case may
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: be going forward. But, man, I sure would like to
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: pull one of those out sometime. I sure would like
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: to be like Auburn beating Georgia.
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: Just do something where you kind of shock your own system.
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: That would be kind of cool.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: So we get back to this later, get a lot
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: of NFL to talk about. You know, the Avs from
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: over the weekend and their game tonight, 5 o'clock against
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: the Flyers back after this. Torelli House Football Monday. Ryan
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: Harris will join us at 8 o'clock. Not to the NFL. Again,
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: I will say in a weekend in the NFL in
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: which two games. That was it. Two games were out
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: of reach. It was the Packers and Cowboys game where
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: the Packers had control virtually the entire way. and it
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: was the Chargers being the worst team in football. Those
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: were the two games.
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: Mama mia. I mean, you talk about mama mia, papa pia.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: Chargers are that, bro.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: What is that? What am I watching with the Chargers?
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: That's not professional football. But they have Jim Harbaugh, and
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: they have Mike McDaniel, and they have Justin Herbert. What
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: is that?
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: It's an absolute pig slop mess. They are ruined.
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: They got to the point, we saw this, I think,
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: during the ABS 48-point season, Vic, where you get to
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: a point where you realize all hope is lost. And
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: so from that point on, it's just you go through
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: the motions. I know you try to be a pro, right?
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: But this is not a team that's building with young players, Brett.
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: This is a team that's supposed to win now. And
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: so when you reach that point, you're like, damn. If
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: you have a young football team that, you know, you're
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: on the rebuild, they can sort of buy into, hey,
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: we got beat again, but we're giving it our best shot.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: These guys have quit already. They're junk. Horribly junk. I mean,
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: what are we doing? No, no. No, but they're not
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: even competitive, man.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: It's how inept they look.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: Like, they don't.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: Guys, there's plenty of terrible football teams in the NFL.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: They're competitive sometimes. Like, sometimes. Here's the weird thing. I'm
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: watching KC. I cannot believe the impact that Kenneth Walker's
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: had on that team. Did you know he leads the
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: league in rushing, and Kansas City's had a bye week already?
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: Crazy. You could see by the way he runs, I
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: think he's the best running back in football right now.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: No question. He's probably the league MVP, and he's not
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: a quarterback, and that's crazy.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: The way he's running the ball and picking up extra
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: yards just by wiggling his way out of trouble, I mean,
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: it's just a rare thing. I don't know. Do you
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: see anybody else able to do that? You certainly don't
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: see anybody in Denver do that. I see his legs, dude,
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: and his legs do this. His legs just go fast.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: He's got fast.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: Strides, and he's not that tall, but he's thick. I
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: go back to my man Ronnie Montrose and Sammy Hagar.
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: He's a bad motor scooter, that guy. What a pickup
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: for them, man.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing, though.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not happy for Kansas City. I'm just
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: saying that that guy's a hell of a player.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: That's the thing, though, Moj. Think about this for a second.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Do the Chiefs have one of the greatest quarterbacks to
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: ever touch a football?
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: For the last three years, that offense was pretty pedestrian.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: It was middle of the road.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Because they were digging up the corpse of Kareem Hunt
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: and saying, can you please try and get like three
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: and a half yards of carry for us? Because we
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: just need somebody. How much better is that offense with
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: just that? And think about what that does for a
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Hall of Famer. You need to be able to help
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Bo Nix right now with something like that, don't you?
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: And I pray to every football god that listens, because
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: I think Jonah Coleman's eligible to come back this week
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: against Arizona. I pray to God that he can be
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: maybe that. Not Kenneth Walker, but just a better, a
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: burst in the running game. Because it's helping Pat Mahomes
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: that much by having a running game like that. It
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: would have to do wonders for Bo Nix, especially with
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: his confidence right now.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: Did you guys see the report by Jay Glazer yesterday?
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: And by the way, Jay Glazer is a personal friend
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: of Sean Payton's. They're tight. Remember Jay at training camp
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: this year? He had player access. He was working out
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: in the locker room. He ate with the team and
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: the coaches, so they're good friends. And Jay Glazer put
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: this out over the weekend that... the reason why Bo
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Nix looks confused could be that when they switched to
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: their new offensive play caller, Davis Webb, Davis Webb instituted
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: a completely new language in play calling. And now they
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: had to go back to Sean Payton's language in play calling.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: And that could explain why He looked paralyzed at times.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: That explains it. That's absolutely it. To me, that sounds
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: more like a very great, timely excuse than anything else.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: And I know, listen, I know what Broncos country is
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: going through right now. Broncos country, in case you haven't noticed,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Broncos country believes, there's a lot of fans out there
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: that believe, we in the media and ex-players and quarterbacks
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: are all ganging up on Bo and we're being unfair
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: to Bo. And it's just not right. And everybody's jumping
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: on everybody. And I'm here to tell you, I'm only
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: preaching what I see. That's all we can do. If
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: that is the issue, if the issue is, well, you know,
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: it's a new language, then say it. Then say it.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Then come out and say what it is.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: But they can't, and here's why. Terminology doesn't help an
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: offensive line open up holes for the running back. And terminology...
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: doesn't affect seeing a wide open wide receiver downfield. You
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? That can affect, it can make
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: you like, it can throw you off a little bit
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: and all that. At the end of the day, the
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: offensive line's job, whether they say whatever the terminology is,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: if you can't move the guy in front of you
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: enough to open up a hole in the running game,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: there's no different words. You can speak Spanish for all
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: you want to. It doesn't matter. It's not going to
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: change that.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: Well, and I'm watching football last night, just Sunday night football.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: And I get it. The Cowboys lost. I get it.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: And I understand why they lost. They're not as good.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: They're not very good at all. But Dak Prescott made
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: a couple throws down the sideline, like right over a
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: dude's head. And I'm watching the Raiders, okay? And there
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: are throws made in that game, despite the Raiders' loss,
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: that Bo's not even going to attempt. It's not even
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: in his– mentally, he would never even– Kirk Cousins made
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: a throw barely over a dude's head late in the
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: game down the sideline. And I'm like, you'll never get
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: that in Denver.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: You're freaking me out because you and me are like–
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: you've said about five things that are exactly in my.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: Head over the weekend. You saw that, right?
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: You saw that. I'll give you a perfect example. There
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: was a play, a touchdown throw from Drake May in
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: the Patriots game. that his offensive line did their job.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: He was in the pocket for six or seven seconds,
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: not an ounce of panic. He saw it was a
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: clean pocket, and even after four seconds, five seconds, six seconds,
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: nobody's around him. He just stood there, and he waited
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: and waited. Somebody popped open 40 yards downfield, wide open
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: in the end zone. He made the throw. The throws,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: and this is amazing to say because I thought this
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: guy was cooked last year. If you were up early enough,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: The throws that C.J. Stroud made in that Texans game
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: in London, I mean, five of them were mind-blowing throws.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: He is playing, despite the fact that the Texans are, what,
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: two and four now? He is playing at such an
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: unbelievably high level. I didn't know he still had it
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: in him. But it's exactly right, Vic. Bo Nix wouldn't
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: even think to try the throw.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: Vic, because I'm here in Philadelphia, I had the pleasure
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: of being able to watch the Eagles and the Panthers. Hey,
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: by the way, the kid actually made some pretty good
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: throws out of the pocket. Brett, he was sliding to
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: his left looking for guys in the middle of the field.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: That being said, Bryce Young, the same kind of story.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: You're like, man, he made some throws that were like,
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: I ain't seen that a little bit. Maybe two years.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Ago, he doesn't make those throws. Two years ago when
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: he got benched, he didn't make those throws. I'm not
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: here to bag on anybody either. And I think that
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: our guy can get it back. But when I think
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: about the analogy you were talking about earlier, or what
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: you were talking about with the play calling, we've all
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: had to do this, right? You ever have your car go.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: In the shop and you've got to drive your wife's
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: car for about three weeks, something like that, or.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: Two weeks, right? You've got to adjust the seat.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: You don't know how to turn the heat on and
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff. Usually for me, you've got
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: to pull the seat up more. Usually, yeah.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: But then when your car gets out of the shop,
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: your car gets, yeah, you get a little phone book
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: in there. When your car gets out of the shop,
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: you get right back in your car, boom, you know
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: where everything's at, right?
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: I mean, like, okay, here's how you adjust.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: This, and that, and mirrors, and da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da, you know, the
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: radio and all that kind of crap.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: That's what I think it should be like.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: Now, I'm not trying to downplay it or dumb it down,
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: but I don't buy that excuse, maybe a little bit,
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: but it's the actual play. It's the, when you avoid contact,
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: that's not, Can.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: I address something real quick that I just think is silly?
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to replay the whole thing just as
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: a refresher, just a few seconds. This was said Thursday
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: after the game.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: Bo Nix is not playing competitively. It's almost disrespectful to
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: the quarterback position how he's playing football.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: What do you mean? We all remember that from Ryan
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Fitzpatrick after the game on Thursday. And that led to
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Aqib Tlaib on his podcast with Skip Bayless. He went
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: through a litany of reasons of why Ryan Fitzpatrick was
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: also a bad quarterback. And I saw like a lot of, yeah, Aqib,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: get him. I really don't get I think it's the
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: stupidest thing that we can do. You can attack Ryan
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Fitzpatrick for an opinion he has about Bo Nix. That's
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: no problem. but by repeatedly saying you sucked at football
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: is not an argument against what he's talking about. It's lazy.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: It's something I hate. And now it's become like, we've
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: all seen like a former player do the, well, you
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: didn't play the game. So you don't know thing. And
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: now we're doing the opposite. You might've played the game,
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: but you weren't even, you weren't good when you played
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: or as good as I was. It's the stupidest thing.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: It is so dumb.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: People can do.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: It is so dumb. And I'll be, I'll be flat
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: out honest with you. I like Aqib. We had a
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: relationship with Aqib on the show.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: I like Aqib too.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: He was on the show. He's wrong in doing what
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: he did. He's wrong. You want me to go down
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: your road? You want me to go down your road?
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: Because you know what? If Fitzpatrick was a jerk about it,
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: did you see Fitzpatrick's response, by the way? I did. Now,
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: if Fitzpatrick was a jerk about it, what could he
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: have done in response to Aqib to leave?
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Oh, he could have took some low blows.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: He could have took some liberties, right?
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: He did not. He chose to take the high road there.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: He did not. Now, was his attack on Bo Nix,
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: was it a little over the top? Yeah, you could
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: make that argument. It was. Yeah, you could. He got personal.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: He questioned his manhood. He questioned his tolerance for physicality.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: He questioned a lot of that. He did. He did.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: Let's be honest. But that's his job. His job is
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: to provide an opinion. And if it's too heavy-handed for you, okay, fine.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: But it's his opinion. That's his role. That's what he does.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: We always say, be real. Be real. Well, he was real.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: And now everybody is attacking his career? I don't get that.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: See, but here's what's funny. And Moshe, I want to
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: get your reaction to this. Because I saw Bomani Jones
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: talk about this. First of all, you can accuse Ryan
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Fitzpatrick of a lot of things. He's not dumb. Go
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: look at his history. Where he played his college football at.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: What his SAT score was. He's not a stupid person.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: Everybody gets into Harvard nowadays. I can get into Harvard. No,
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: I'm kidding.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Beaumont Jones said this about Ryan Fitzpatrick, and he's right
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: about this. Ryan Fitzpatrick might not have been the greatest
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: quarterback in the league. He might have been all the
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: things that Aqib said he was. He never played in
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: a playoff game, had more interceptions than starts in his career.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: All that stuff might be true. Ryan Fitzpatrick played the game.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: with an edge, he would bury his shoulder into a
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: linebacker if he's taken off on a scramble. Well, Monty
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Jones said that was that man's religion. And so when
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: he's calling somebody else out for that, that's what he's saying.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: And by Aqib Tlaib, as somebody says, I loved his response.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: He didn't have a response. He just said that you sucked.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, his response was stupid. And someone said, Vic, you're
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: just mad about Aqib spitting facts about Fitzpatrick and offering
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: his opinion. If we're just going to demean each other's careers...
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: If that's what it comes down to is demeaning someone's career, again,
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: the easy thing for Fitzpatrick would have been to take
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: the stage and demean Aqib Tlaib. He could have done that.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: He didn't.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: This is how easy you can shut this stuff down, though.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: If we want to play that game, if we want
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: to say that Aqib Tlaib is right, okay, well then 99.5%
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: of us in the world cannot discuss politics because we've
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: never been in political office, so what do we know
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: about politics? I can't criticize a movie because I'm not
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Christopher Nolan, I guess, so if I think a movie sucks,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: then why do I have an opinion on that at all?
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: I'm not Tarantino. See how stupid this becomes now?
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: Of course. Of course it becomes stupid. And I'm sorry,
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but the... The role of Fitzpatrick is to
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: offer an opinion. If the roles were reversed, and do
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: you remember Aqib Tlaib going after certain players? Do you remember?
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, could you imagine? So I see his ass
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: and I'm going to beat his ass. Yeah, could you
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: imagine if Fitzpatrick then responded to Aqib in a blatant
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: way for that? Yeah. I mean, what are we doing?
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: It's soft work. It's stupid.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Here's the other thing, guys. I don't know what to
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: do with this. Cardinals beat the Rams and you play
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: the Cardinals this week and there's one thing that's for
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: sure about the Cardinals. Your defense is going to absolutely
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: suffocate them. They are last in the league in explosive
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: play rate. They didn't score a touchdown against the Rams
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: and they beat But I don't know what to do
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: with Arizona. Arizona's had weeks in which they've looked okay,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: and they've had weeks where they've looked miserable. But the
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Rams are now 2-4. You know what Stafford got hit
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: with in that game? Stafford got hit with the Bo
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Nix stuff. Average depth of target was 4.8 yards. Couldn't
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: throw the ball downfield. And part of me is like,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: if they're doing that to Stafford in the Rams offense,
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: then what are they going to do to yours?
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: If they're doing that to the Rams with Puka Nakula
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: and Devontae Adams and all those guys, your offense is
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: already struggling. Well, you're probably in for a really close
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: game next weekend, aren't you?
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: Maybe the Rams aren't as good as we thought they were.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Well, the record would dictate that, yeah.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: Maybe they're not that team we thought when the Broncos
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: were able to beat them at home in dramatic fashion
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: and clearly a big win on the schedule. I mean,
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: they lost at home to Arizona. You're not that guy.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: That game was weird. Did you see their new kicker
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: get absolutely bludgeoned? He's 112 pounds. What is he trying
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: to do?
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, their old kicker was 250 or whatever he was.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: That guy was a defensive lineman. The new kicker runs 5'7,
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: won like 20. And I'm not kidding.
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: And Nelly, I'm not trying to cast dispersions on you
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: and your fellow flutists. But if that guy was marching
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: around Folsom Field with a flute in his hand in
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: the Colorado band, I wouldn't be surprised because that's what
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: he looks like. And that's, I guess, I guess I'm
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: just casting a wide swath here. He's a little guy.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: He's got the flute. Harrison Mevis has the tuba. He's
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: the tuba guy.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: But dude's running down the sideline, and so the kicker
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: tries to knock him out. It'd be like if you're driving,
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: if you're flying down, you know, 470 and you know,
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: a squirrel jumps in front of your car and the
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: squirrel gets obliterated. That's kind of what happened to that dude, man.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: By the way, if, I mean, there's some news from
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: over the weekend. I don't know what official news it is,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: but this from Romy Bean, this was Jonah Ellis at
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: the Utah game. He's in a boot in crutches. Remember,
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: he left the game on a cart, so it shouldn't
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: be all that surprising last week, but this is another
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: hit to your defensive line as we head into next weekend.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: The Indianapolis Colts just fired their GM, Chris Ballard. Oh,
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: they did? Yeah, all the note-taking by the owner. You
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: know why?
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: The bottom of the note said, fire GM now. No,
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: because yesterday at the game, they got that punt block
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: for a touchdown. Tennessee gets their first win.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: They were going, fire Ballard. So she's on the sideline.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: What are they saying? Fire Ballard. Okay. Number two.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: You know what else is in her notes? Daniel Jones'
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: first six weeks last year was a fluke. God, that
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: guy sucks. Did you what? He did the thing that
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: you're talking about with Sam Donald Moj. All right, we're
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: playing the Titans. Cam Ward can't throw. Just don't turn
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: the ball over. And he does it twice late in
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: that game. And then you have a punt block. The
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: only way the Titans win is if that team just goes,
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: literally take the football and run into the end zone
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: with it from me.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: Do that.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: That's the only way that you lose that game. Anyway, 303-504-0925.
• 33:28
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• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Ryan Harris in 20 minutes. Stick around.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Talk about the football week with Ryan Harris here in
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: about 15 minutes. Let's go back to the Avs game
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: from over the weekend, Moj. The Avs get a win
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: against Pittsburgh. Now, it was a rough start, but once
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: they turned it on, it was game over. T.J. Hughes
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: gets his first career NHL goal, which was cool. Can
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: I say something, though, about... I think we can say
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: this is a trend. Try, anyway. Going back to last year,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: the Avs, when the Avs play at home... It feels
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: like they need a kick in the pants. It's like
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: they're way too comfortable when a game starts at home.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: They need something to get them in gear. And a
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: team against Pittsburgh, a team like Pittsburgh, maybe you can
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: survive back-to-back goals in the span of 15 seconds or
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: whatever it was, and then come back and win.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: 29. It was 29. But do you.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Know what I'm talking about? It just feels like they're
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: a little bit too comfy at the beginning of games
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: inside ball arena.
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: They were a mess in that first period. At least
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: the first half of the first period, they were an
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: absolute mess. Penguins were first to the puck. The Penguins
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: jumped them on the forecheck. The Penguins stood them up
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: at the blue line. The Penguins, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: Avs couldn't make a pass. Penguins wanted them to dump
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: and chase. The Avs were stubborn. They refused to dump
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: and chase. Trying to pass their way through the neutral
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: zone or stick handle through it and and Penguins are
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: picking it off, and the four check's causing pressure, and
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: so on and so forth. And then you get that
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: Leckanen goal. And what I love about that play, guys,
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: this is how special McKinnon is. Vic, listen up closely
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: because I'm about to educate you. He comes flying into
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: the zone, and Carlisle, the kid's trying to keep up
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: with him. Then he has like, he's, so Johnny calls
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: it surfing. The defenseman is surfing with the forward, the
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: player coming into the zone. Then he's got this just
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: this tiny little extra kick, boom, to create that much separation,
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: and then he sends the puck across to a hard-charging Lekkonen.
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: And what I also loved about that play is Lekkonen
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: recognized it from inside of his own blue line, and
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: he went, rah, and he just.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: Took off, right? I mean, you've got to sell out
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: in a play like that.
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: And he created separation from his guy and was able
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: to stuff at home on the redirect short side. But
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: it's that McKinnon, I mean, he's already at 20 miles
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: per hour, and then he's got this little extra boop,
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: And then he's able to send the pass around, dude, stick,
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: perfect pass, bangs it home. So then you get one back,
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: you kind of suck it up the rest of the period,
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: then you score 25 seconds into the second. That's the
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: pop-up and then the face wash across the.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: Bar and everything.
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: And then you were off and running from that point on. But, yeah,
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: they started at home like a car stuck in the mud, Brett.
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: I thought the Nate slapper was, I mean, how many
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: people in hockey can execute that?
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: I cannot tell you. How many? Vic, a handful.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: That's so hard because in order to even get enough
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: wood on it to blast its short side, you've got
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: to get down on one knee and you've got to
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: contort your body and that puck has to be close
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: to you.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: It's really, really, really hard.
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: Then you saw him, he screwed himself into the ice
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: after he shot it and just on that off wing
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: to be able to get that kind of angle, but
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: I guess I was impressed that he was able to
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: get that much mustard on it to be able to
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: get it there, because if it's a split, I mean,
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: if it's even a quarter of a mile per hour slower,
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: Shelob's going to be able to get over there and
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: make that save or get his shoulder on it, whatever,
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: but it was totally brilliant. He had a 4.9, he
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: was a stud.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: You know what's crazy is that TJ Hughes had that too.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: He did.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: He had like the Miko goal, which you're dropping down.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: You got to wrench down on a knee. You got
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: to make sure your sticks in the right spot. It's
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: pretty sick. First goal for him, for him too.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: Well, if you're, how about your first goal of your
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: career comes from McKinnon and McCarr against Crosby and Malkin.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: That's pretty, that's pretty cool, man.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: That's good. Good for him. That's, that's a cool thing.
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: And he was obviously pumped and, and, uh, good stuff. Um,
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: I was happy for him.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Two things here, Moj. One, a short-term thing, the other
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: a longer-term thing that we don't have to spend too
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: much time on because it's more big picture and for
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: down the road, but still I think it's important. First
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: thing is a little struggle out of the gates for
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: McKenzie Blackwood this year, but the last two games really solid.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: He's got like a 930 save percentage, two goals against
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: in the last two. That's what you want to see.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: That's what you want your number one to do.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, correct.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: Second thing is this. I was looking at cap space
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: and what the Avs have available to them and You know,
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: every year at the deadline, they make some moves, and
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: they're going to do that again this year. But for
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: a longer-term view, this is Arturi Lekanen's last year under contract.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: He's a UFA next year. Arturi Lekanen had 21 goals
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: in 70 games last year. He's got six and eight
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: this year. I love me some Arturi Lekanen.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: Who doesn't?
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: Arturi Lekanen, heard of him? I don't want Lekanen having
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: a 30-goal season because then can you even afford to
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: keep Lekanen at the end.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: Of the year? Brett, let me, can I get, can
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: I get?
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: I know that's a long-term sort of view on this,
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: but truly, like, it is, I don't want Lekanen to
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: go anywhere, but if he continues at, no, he can't
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: continue at this pace of six goals in eight games,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: but if he does this, Moj, he's going to play
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: himself out of being an Av.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: Here's the reality of that situation. is regardless if he
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: has a, if you want to keep him, it's going
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: to be difficult no matter what.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: If he's got a 30 goal season.
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: At the age of 31, that's going to be a very,
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's going to be exponentially that much more difficult.
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: So I think if you're going to want to keep
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: Arturi Lekkonen on a long-term deal and I can't even
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: imagine what he's going to ask for you sign him
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: today no no no no no because well you can
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: but if you are then somebody else or somebody's else's
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: are going to have to go Say it like Scott
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: Hastings would say it.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: Somebody else is going to have to. I'll tell you what.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Brock Nelson might have to take a walk.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: Brock Nelson? No, not him.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Whatever, whatever.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: And then some really hard decisions are going to have
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: to be made, even with the cap going up, because
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: the guy is a valuable player. And again, he's the ultimate,
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: I mean, he just does his job.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: You know what he does?
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: He doesn't ask for anything. He gives everything, and he
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: does his job, and he shuts up and just plays hockey.
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: And he's a total stud. You know, he plays, I
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: don't have to tell you, he plays bigger than he is.
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: We saw the second goal. We saw what Crosby did.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: Crosby bent him over the crossbar backwards and gave him
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: a face wash. And he just, I think Leckanen probably
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: likes that. He's like, that tastes good.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: I think he had a smile on his face when
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: he did it, yeah.
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, that's who this guy is. I would
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: love to keep him, too. The Avs would love to
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: keep him. Jared Bednar, I'm sure. Jared Bednar's in love
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: with players like that because they caught zero issues and
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: they play their butts off all the time. Now, at
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: the age of 31, the way he plays the game,
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: how long before his body breaks down?
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: What kind of term are we talking about here?
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: Because I ain't going six.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: Seven years. I'll go four. You know what I mean?
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: That kind of thing.
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: But that means you're going to have to probably pay
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: a little bit more, and then again, you're going to
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: have to make some other moves because you just simply
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: won't be able to fit it in. That's the reality
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: of the situation, and Joe Sackick knows that.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: What did you think about the play of Makar the father?
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: I thought it was fine.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: What do you mean?
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: No, it's just I was thinking about this as he
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: was walking in. I saw the picture of him.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: He still had a couple apples.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: He still had the hospital wristband on, right? And I
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: thought to myself, look, you have your first kid. It's
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: a complete life shift of, like, I'm not sleeping. With
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: two at the same time, I can only imagine. As
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: a first-time father with two kids, even when one's sleeping,
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: maybe the other one's not, I was just like, I
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: wonder how he feels.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: That's all. I just wonder how he feels.
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: Then he gets a day at home or a day
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: at the hospital, wherever they are, with his wife and children,
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: his babies. then he's on the road. So I'm sure
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: it's an all hands on deck situation from our family. Um,
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: but that's life in the, you know, in any sport,
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: to be honest with you, 20.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: 20 million bucks, you can get yourself an old pair.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: You can get one of those, one of them.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: I would give me one of them old pairs.
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Well, that was, uh, but no, in all, in all seriousness. Yeah.
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: It's, it's way life affecting, but I mean, look, the
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: guy's got nine points in eight games.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: We know who he is.
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: He's a total stud. Um, it's, But it's going to change.
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: It's going to change a lot of things. There ain't
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: no doubt about it.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: Moj, my son, beautiful baby boy, was in Philly last week,
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: and he did me a disservice. I can't believe he
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: did not do this. He never went out to run
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: the stairs, the rocky stairs. Didn't understand the value. Good
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: for you, Dante. Didn't understand the value and significance. Said,
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to go out there like a lunatic
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: and run some stairs. That was his line.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: That's a sane man who should be a lawyer.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: I approve. Because, Brett, I think that every... He's a
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: good kid. Hey, hey.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: I think every red-blooded American, if they get to Philadelphia
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: at least one time... If you don't do that, what
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: are you?
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: You're not American. Not only have I run up those
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: steps multiple times, Vic.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: One time in your honor, but mostly my own honor.
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: Lauren Jabara and I, years ago, it was snowing like
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: crazy here.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: So we went over there and.
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: There were people– they had, like, inflatable dolphins and sleds
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: and stuff, and they were sliding down– they were sliding
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: down the steps of the Philadelphia Art Museum. So we
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: jumped on– I jumped on an inflatable dolphin, and she
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: was on, like, a– That's a little sacrilegious, but that's fine.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: But do me the honor– do me the honor today, Moshe.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: Please do me the honor. If you or Connor or
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: somebody out there run the steps in my name, and
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: I want you to record it, have the phone nearby,
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: and say, this is for you. And I want you
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: to– Hum the song as you make your way up
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: the stairs. I've done it a million times. The hotel
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: we stay at.
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you what I'll do. I won't do that,
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: but I will. I don't have time, but I will
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: do it on my elevator. It's a long elevator ride,
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: and I'll show you.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: Hang on a second.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: How many people a day do you think run the
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: stairs while humming this song?
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: Billions.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: And I would if I were in Philly, I would
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: not run the stairs. I would set up a full
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: camera with a tripod filming them. And everybody who did it,
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: I'd be like, loser. Just make them feel weird about it.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: Why would you? Why would you? It's iconic. Well, you're
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: not American. You're not an iconic thing, Brad. You're not.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: You're not American. You're just you're not an American person.
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: That's what it comes down to. I told my son
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: the same thing. You're not an American human being. You're dead.
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to think in cinematic history, Vic. Find me
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: another set of stairs in movie history that are vital
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: to just the future of the world. As that set
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: of stairs.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: Chichen Itza.
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: Bam.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: Not in movie history. A lot of stairs, though. A
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: lot of stairs.
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: It's just a location that's incredibly iconic. If you can't
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: get there, can you just... It's incredibly iconic.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: Can you get me a set of stairs in the
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: arena today with the music humming and send it to me?
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I can. I do, but I will
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: tell you this. Our replay guy, Sam Kilman, this morning,
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: he runs a lot. Vic, see if I can just
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: put it on the screen. He today, he went and
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: ran the steps.
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: Yes!
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: Take a picture. See? See?
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: So.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: So there you go. He said that to me. Sam Kilmer.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: Hell yeah. Look at him. If he's still there, tell
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: him to hug the statue. No, he's not there anymore.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: He's bald, but he can run.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: How about the stairs in Home Alone? Pretty famous stairs.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: What the hell was that line? He's bald, but he
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: can run?
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much.
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: He's bald, but he can run. He's more arrogant than me.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: I didn't realize that running became a challenge for He's
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: more aerodynamic. Well, it helps him. He's more, you know,
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: he's got the airflow.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, how about the stairs at the Stanley? How about
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: those stairs?
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: Those are pretty good from Dumb and Dumber.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Well, I was thinking more like.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: Shining?
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: The Shining, yeah.
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: Well, they filmed Dumb and Dumber there, too. That wasn't Aspen.
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: It was the Stanley Hotel with the inside the bar,
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: all that.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Anyway, Ryan Harris is going to join us in a
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: couple minutes. Stick around.