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TCC #19 The Speed Freak Killers · True Crime California

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Speaker 1: Hey everyone, welcome to True Crime California. I'm your host, Cindy,
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and I'm glad you're here. Hey, everybody, welcome back to
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another podcast episode of True Crime California. Thank you all
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so much for tuning in last week and the week
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before for the two parter that was the murder of
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Kristen Smart. I hope you guys all enjoyed that. It's
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a really horrible case, but it is a little satisfying
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to cover now that we have a conclusion for it.
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At the end, it's all high fives and fist pumps
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and you know, it's a horrible, horrible case, but I'm
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really glad that it finally was solved. So, you know,
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silver lining kind of case in that vein. The case
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this week kind of takes place in the same area,
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around the same time, so I thought it was kind
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of a cool idea to cover it this week, so
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we have sort of back to back cases with some
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similar themes. This is actually recommended to me by a listener,
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so thank you so much for that. Hopefully you guys
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enjoy I think I'm just gonna jump into it, so
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let's get started. So I'm gonna be covering the case
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of the speed Freak killers this week, and this case,
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like I said, it's not super different from the murder
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of Kristen Smart in quite a few ways. The killings
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take place in and around Kristen's hometown of Stockton. They
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are all they all take place when Kristen is growing
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up in that area. And most notably, this case spans
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nearly fifteen years. It actually spans longer than that, but
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basically fifteen years of murders basically, and then an additional
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you know, quite a few years of being in and
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out of court. So it has a really long kind
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of timeline, which is similar to Kristen's timeline. And it's
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also due too unbelievable police negligents. This case is far
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worse in a lot of ways, and that so many
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people died as a result of the police doing nothing,
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even as more and more young women and girls went
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missing in the area. And what's more, with this case,
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it's quite possible there was an intentional cover up with
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the Sheriff's Department of San Juaquin County, either because the
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family of one of the killers was well connected, or
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possibly because the police just didn't want to deal with
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admitting they once again were absolutely terrible at their jobs.
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In any case, this will all be discussed as we
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move through the case. So let's get started. Actually, hold on,
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hold on. There was something that I wanted to say
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because I was reading my reviews on Apple Podcasts and
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somebody called out my recording, saying they can hear like
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every time I swallow, and yes, I agree, and I
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hate it. I've been trying to get my recordings to
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not be so damn crisp. So crisp. What I hear
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more is like the breath, but the swallowing. If you
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hear that, I'm really sorry. I'm working really hard to
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get this all kind of normalized and kind of aligned.
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I have a little bit of an older computer, so
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I feel like it's just not gonna do me as
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good as in a new computer would, so I might
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not have perfect sound. I appreciate the feedback, but damn
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three stars. You love my podcast, but three stars because
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you can hear me swallow, that is harsh, y'all, Maybe
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consider giving me an extra star, knowing I'm working on it.
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I'm trying. I'm trying, Okay, anyway, all right, let's get
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into this case. Like I said, I'm talking about the
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speed freak killers case, and this refers to two men
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born in the mid sixties and raised in Linden, California,
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which is only about twenty miles or sorry, twenty minutes
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east of Stockton, so kind of in central California. Like
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the Central Valley of California, and once again very close
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to where Kristin Smart was born and raised. As noted,
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much of the story takes place in the mid eighties
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and nineties, so also aligning sort of with her disappearance,
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at least in part anyway. The older of these two men,
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Lauren Hertzog, was born in December nineteen sixty five, while
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Wesley Wes Shermantine was born in February nineteen sixty six.
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These two were very close in age clearly, and grew
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up on the same street directly across from one another,
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in fact, so their homes like faced each other. This
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alone would bring kids together, you know, like proximity relationships,
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when you become friends with people you live near, or
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go to school with, or work with. I guess that's
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how we always make friends. But especially when you're young,
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it's sort of the past path of least resistance because
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you don't necessarily know what you're going to be into.
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Until you get a little older, you're not sure what
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kind of person you're going to be. So when you're younger,
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it's really easy to make friends with whoever is around.
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And so these two became very close that being said,
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even beyond their proximity, were they did share a lot
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in common. They were both really into hunting, and Wess's father,
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Wesley Shermantine or Shermantine Senor, was also very into hunting
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and he would take the boys with him quite often.
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So this means from a young age the boys were
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very good with firearms. They were used to dressing animals,
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so they were not weird about blood, and they were
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just kind of brought up with violence around them. And
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I don't I'm not passing any sort of judgment on hunting.
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I actually think if you are hunting to eat, that's
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probably the best and most natural way to do it.
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I'm just saying that from a young age they were
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used to this kind of thing. Also, I wanted to
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note that Wesley Senior was a very successful contractor in
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the area, so the family had a lot of money
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and this is going to come into play. So before
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I get more into their family specifically, I kind of
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wanted to give an idea of Lynden, California and the
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surrounding area because I believe the demographics of this area
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play a pretty large role in the outcome of this
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case and why things went on the way that they did.
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So just so you guys kind of get an idea,
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Linden is not even a city. It's not today, and
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it wasn't then either. It is a census designated area
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in California. So what that means is it's an unincorporated
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area with no central government, police department, or any of that.
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And what's more, it wasn't even a census designated area
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until nineteen ninety. Well some of this story takes place
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before then. So Linden is a very very small town.
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And because they don't have a centralized government, they use
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the San Joaquin County Sheriff's Department as sort of their
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police because they're in San Juan or San Joaquin County
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in California. So again they're using like the broader, you know,
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the Sheriff's department. They don't have their own police, They
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don't really have like their own anything. They kind of
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go to Stockton or the surrounding areas for government services.
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That all being said, Linden was a really nice little
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enclave in this area. It was a pretty nice place
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to live. People enjoyed a mostly quiet life, and it
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was definitely a richer area than anywhere else around. But
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there were a few factors to consider that would sort
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of bring a different element into Linden, especially in the
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eighties and nineties. Now, first, Linden is surrounded by farmland,
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individual homes, people who aren't working tech jobs. Let's say
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it's very very rural, so the area is kind of
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poor around them. There's not a lot of money. It's
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very spread out, like I said, very rural. It's not
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really what people who aren't from California think of when
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they're talking about California. So while we have some halves,
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especially in London, the area is a lot of have nots,
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the working poor, and people without much money. Now, what
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happens in small towns where people don't have a lot
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of money but do have a lot of time on
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their hands is they tend to get into drugs because
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they're just bored. They don't really see much else to
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do with their time. And in the eighties and nineties, especially,
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methamphetamine became a very popular drug in the area because
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it was cheap and easy to make. Now, meth makes
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people feel euphoric, which I think is something everybody likes,
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but especially in these more depressed areas It's likely a
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very different feeling than day to day life, so people
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are really into that. And another problem with meth is
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that it becomes extremely addictive. Not only are you addicted
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to the feeling, but you're actually physically addicted to the
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chemicals that you're ingesting into your body when you snort
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or smoke meth. So when Lauren and Wes, going back
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to these two were teens, this drug was taking over
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the area and they were definitely not immune to its
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draw Now I'm going to go back into their childhoods
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a little bit, so we've kind of talked about you know,
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Wes's family had money. Lauren's family was actually pretty middle class.
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They lived in the same neighborhood, so obviously they weren't poor.
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But Wes was definitely like a rich kid. We've talked
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about the demographics of the area. So let's talk about
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these guys as young kids. Wesley Shermantine Junior was the
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middle child of three. He had a younger and an
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older sister. His parents, like I said, Wes, and I
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think she went by Sue. I think her first name
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is actually Verna. Those are his parents, and they spoiled
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the kids in a lot of ways. They would give
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them dirt bikes, horse riding lessons, all the toys they
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could want, so the kids monetarily were very very spoiled
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and given whatever they wanted. But on the other hand,
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the Shermantine parents were also very abusive. Wes's mother, Sue,
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was a hardcore alcoholic and would become physically abusive to
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the children when she was drinking, and especially Wes, probably
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because he was the only boy. When he would get
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into trouble, his parents would take guns and shoot at
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his feet while making him stand still, which is beyond
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potentially shooting him. It's extremely mentally abusive, so a big
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problem there. So this was a very confusing and damaging
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childhood for Wes and his sisters because one moment they're
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being lavished with expensive presence, and the next moment they're
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being beaten by that's those same parents, so really not good.
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In childhood, Wes was always seen as the more aggressive
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between himself and Lauren. He was confrontational. He was considered
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a bully m probably because he was trying to assert
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dominance because he felt so powerless at home, and then
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Lauren was definitely the more meek of the two at
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least through high school, and Lauren was also much more
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of a regular kid, not only in the way he
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was raised and just being like middle class, but he
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was also like well liked by his peers, well behaved,
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and until he really got involved with Wes as they
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grew up, he was a pretty chill kid. So you
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kind of get the idea of the dynamic between these
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two boys as well as how they reviewed when growing up.
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These two graduate high school in nineteen eighty four, and
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before even then they are starting to get into some
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bad shit and escalating their behavior. Now. For instance, when
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they were in the seventh grade, Lauren had a girlfriend
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and although they had been together for a few months
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and he seemed to really like her, at one point,
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Wes for some reason punched her right in the nose
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and Lauren did not do anything about it. Another time,
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they were all hanging out and suddenly Wes tells Lauren
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basically to rape his girlfriend. Now, again, he's in seventh grade,
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his girlfriend is in sixth grade. This isn't even something
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they should be exploring at all at this age, let
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alone talking about rape and attempting to rape someone. But Lauren,
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being the meeker of the two does as he's told,
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and he starts holding his girlfriend down. He gets on
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top of her, and the whole time she's crying and
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asking him to stop. As this is happening, Wes is
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watching and telling this young girl, you know you want it,
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over and over while she says no, I don't, please stop. Finally,
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after some time, Lauren stops and does not in fact
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rape her, but the damage was done and their escalating
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behavior is set in motion. This girl never spoke to
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either of them ever again, which is you know, really
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saying something. Because the town of Linden had less than
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two thousand people in it, so I'm sure she saw
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them all the time, which is really damaging. So that's very,
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very alarming. And what's worse is she didn't tell anybody
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about this, which I'm not blaming her for. You know,
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she's young, she's scared, but not telling is something we'll
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see happen over and over in this case, and it
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sort of helps set the scene for how things go
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in small towns with rich and therefore powerful families. So
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going back to their graduating high school, as soon as
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they do that, they moved in together into an apartment
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in Stockton, which again is very close to Linden and
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the nearest big city, so it makes sense that that's
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kind of where they would end up. I'm pretty sure
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Wes had money from his parents, and the two spent
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most of their time drinking and doing drugs, namely meth.
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The two also dealt meth to make money and were
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known in the area as being meth dealers. So this
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is you know, already they've got this bad reputation and
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they're not really working. They're just basically being hoodlums. And
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the two began doing this even in high school, not
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only selling but using meth, and it got way more
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out of control once they were out of their parents' homes. Now,
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as I said, I've kind of talked about methamphetamine. It's
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this euphoric feeling. It doesn't last very long. What does
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last a long time is being wide awake from using meth.
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It speeds you up and you can't really sleep, and
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users will often be up for days at a time,
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which is so so bad for your brain. So beyond
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the high of you know, being high for days and
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the effects that can have. See, sleep deprivation also causes hallucinations, paranoia,
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and general confusion. So you mix that with the energy
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and aggressiveness that comes with using meth, and you've got
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a very scary combination. So you have these two guys
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who already are fine with violence, they've already attempted to
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like rape someone, they obviously have issues with women, with
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their home lives, and they're using meth regularly. So this
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is a very very scary situation. And as I said,
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it's also meth is very addictive, so people will use
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it literally until they crash out, like pass out from exhaustion,
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only to wake up and start using again right away.
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As far as the physical effects of methamphetamine, it's pretty crazy.
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It includes sometimes severe weight loss because you can't eat
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because your stomach's in knots, facial acne and scarring, like
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very very severe like face wounds that just kind of
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boil up on your face, hair loss, tooth decay. I mean,
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people lose all of their teeth. The chemicals are very
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hard on your enamel when you're smoking them or snorting them.
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It's just it's a really gross drug and unfortunately a
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lot of people do it in this area of California,
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and to this day, it's a very big problem, but
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it definitely started in the eighties. So anyway, these two
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are high as kites and living on their own with
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the history of bullying people, assaulting young women, and selling drugs,
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so we know where this is going right now. These
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two still went out hunting, and on September first, nineteen
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eighty four, they were headed home from an area near
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Lake Tahoe when they saw a car parked on the
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side of the road with a man sleeping inside. These
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two decided, okay, this is it. It's time to go
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from hunting animals to hunting humans. And they're like, this
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is this is gonna be our first victim. They pulled
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Shermantine's red truck to the side of the road, got out,
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and Shermantine pulled out a shotgun. The two then went
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up to the window a forty one year old father
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of five, Henry Lee Howell. Henry was a member of
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the Lummy nation, who were indigenous to Washington State and
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the surrounding areas. Before Henry, who had pulled over to
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sleep off some beers, could respond to the knocking, the
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men shot him through the window, killing him instantly. They
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then robbed him for about ten dollars cash. His death
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remained unsolved until two thousand and one, which we'll talk
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about later. So from nineteen eighty four to two thousand
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and one, this murder is unsolved, which is crazy. Now
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two months later, on November twenty seventh, nineteen eighty four,
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the men were driving again in Shermantine's red pickup truck
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when they came upon two men in a Pontiac which
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was pulled over again on the side of the road.
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These two men, thirty five year old Harold Michael King
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the Third and another man, thirty one year old Paul
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Raymond Cavanaugh, were sitting in this car, and to this day,
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we aren't really sure why. I've read that they were transient.
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I read that they maybe were doing drugs. I really
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don't know. It could have been anything, and it's kind
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of weird that all of the guesses were so negative.
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But these men were parked on Robert's Island, which is
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just near Stockton in the River Delta, and it was
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a popular area for hunting because it's undeveloped, but it's
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also a good area for illicit activities, so that could
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be why it was thought maybe they were doing something.
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They shouldn't have been doing. As a result, it also
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has a lot of sheriff's presence. There's a lot of
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police driving around trying to catch people, but you can
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still get away with a lot, as we'll see anyway,
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So Herzog and Shermantine, Shermantine, I keep changing it. I
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don't know what to call him. Anyway, They pull over
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and attack these men as well, shooting Howard while he
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was still in the driver's seat of the car, then
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pulling Raymond out of the car before shooting him point
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blank in the face. The men's bodies were left at
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the scene, and a woman driving by noticed Sherman times
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red truck parked where near the road where the bodies
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would soon be found. I am tripping over my words today.
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I'm sorry, guys. I'm not gonna redo it because every
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time I do, I just make the same mistakes. So
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bear with me. I'll get through it. She kept driving
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but didn't stop or even really indicate any interest in
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the scene, and didn't see the bodies. But even as
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she passed, she felt creeped out and quickly realized she
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was being followed by the red truck that she had
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just seen parked. So she got freaked out, obviously because
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she already felt like something was weird. It's like an
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isolated area. So she does something really smart, and she
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goes and she drives by the nearby jail, and she
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does this to kind of try to scare this truck off,
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and it actually worked. She saw the truck kind of
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veer away and she didn't see it anymore. So she
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then turns and hurries to go home, but as she's
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turning onto her street, she again sees this red pickup
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truck pulling in behind her. So she parks in her driveway,
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runs into her house, locks the door behind her, and
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runs upstairs where she hides, but is also looking out
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her window to see what's gonna happen. Now, to her horror,
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she sees this red pickup truck pull into her driveway.
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She's watching terrified from the upstairs window, but nothing really happens.
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The truck just kind of sits there for a while
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and then finally drives away. Now, once again, like their
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victim when they were in junior high, this woman does
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not call the police while this is happening, and I
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really wish she had, because police found the two murdered
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men so quickly after they were killed that their bodies
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were still warm. So had she called, this case may
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have ended right here, which would have been really nice. Unfortunately,
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she was far too scared to do so, and I understand,
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and again not blaming her, I'm just saying what could
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have been. But after seeing the murders on the news,
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and Rea it was likely whoever was in the truck.
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She did call police, and they took prints of the
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tire tracks left in her driveway. She later found out
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that those tracks perfectly matched those left at the scene
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of the murders. Now, if I was her, I would
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have moved the next damn day. I don't know if
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she did, but like they know where she lives. That's
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fucking scary. So again we have someone who saw something
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and either didn't report it or waited too long. And
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again I'm not blaming her, I'm just saying that sucks.
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But it's also indicative of sort of the vibe of
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the area. I truly believe that people who lived in
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this area at the time knew how things went with
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the cops, and they didn't want to risk their lives
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when they didn't expect anything to happen, and some of
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the things that happened in this case later on kind
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of backed that up. So anyway, the next victims were women,
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which is a departure from these first crimes, but I
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believe this is because the men kind of became addicted
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to killing, much like they were addicted to meth, so
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they started to sort of plan their murders rather than
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just let them happen random. So the next confirmed victim,
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who wasn't tied to the men for many, many years,
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was nineteen year old Kimberly Ann Billy, who went missing
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from Stockton on December eleventh, nineteen eighty four, So just
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about two weeks after this second murder of these two men,
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they're now kind of changing what they're doing and picking
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women up intentionally. I don't know a lot about her death,
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but I do know that these men killed her. Now.
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The next victim was sixteen year old Joanne Hobson, a bright,
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bubbly girl who lived with her mother and sister in Stockton.
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Her mother worked the night shift at the cannery nearby
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in order to make the most money from her job,
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so Joanne and her sister were home alone often overnight.
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Joanne was a very girly girl, very small tiny in fact,
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she was only four foot eight and weighed only eighty pounds.
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And on the night she went missing, she told her
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sister she had a date with a man her sister
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didn't know, but who was quote tall and blonde. Now
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for the Rst. Lauren Herzog was both tall and blonde. Now.
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Joanne put on her makeup and got ready, but as
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the night progressed, she didn't end up going anywhere. Her
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sister went back into her room to check on her
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around eleven PM and found her asleep in bed, but
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with her window open. So her sister, Michelle, closed the
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window and went to bed herself, and when her mother,
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Joan Shelley, came home the next morning, she and Michelle
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were surprised to find Joanne wasn't in her bed, but
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her window was back to being open. After a short while,
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when Joanne still didn't come home, Joan called the police
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to report her missing. Now, huh, this is kind of
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proving my point about how it doesn't really make a
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difference if people call her not. The sheriff told Joan Shelley,
23:46
even though Joanne was a minor, she still had to
23:50
wait at least seventy two hours before she could report
23:54
her missing. They also said, she's probably a runaway. There's
23:58
nothing we can do. Now. Nowadays there's generally no waiting
24:02
period to report missing people, especially children, but back then
24:06
police use this as an excuse to straight up not
24:08
do their jobs, and when they were forced to take
24:11
a report by families who refused to be ignored, they
24:13
simply marked pretty much every missing girl as a runaway,
24:16
especially girls from this area, and then went on with
24:19
their day, which which we fucking love. And I also
24:22
want to point out like, even if she did run away,
24:25
she's a miner, so the police have a legal duty
24:28
to find her. But of course they didn't, so that's great. Now,
24:33
there was one officer who really did care about Joanne's disappearance,
24:37
and he was already sort of onto her Zog and
24:39
Sherman Tine, and he told Joan Shelley not to tell
24:43
anyone but the police that Joanne had been on a
24:46
date that night. This comes up later, so it ended
24:50
up being really great advice, and Joan Shelley was really
24:53
grateful for this officer. So, of course he was later
24:56
killed in a shootout not much later in fact, leaving
25:00
Joan on her own to try and find her daughter.
25:03
The next known victim was twenty four year old Robin
25:07
arm Trout. Her full name was ROBERTA. J. Arm Trout,
25:10
but she went by Robin. She was a fiery haired
25:13
twenty four year old woman with a troubled past, but
25:16
a heart of gold and a family who loved her dearly.
25:19
At a fairly young age, Robin had fallen into drugs,
25:22
namely meth, and had turned to sex work over the
25:25
years to pay for her habit, which of course leads
25:27
to a number of bad things, including kind of what
25:30
happens to her ultimately, which is not to say it's
25:33
her fault, it's just a very unfortunate situation. Robin obviously
25:37
had a lot of self destructive behavior, including tattooing bad
25:41
words into her own abdomen while she was drunk, and
25:44
you know, her sister Candy confronted her about this because
25:47
her family really cared about her, and she sort of
25:50
just shrugged it off like she was ashamed, but she
25:53
just wanted to act like it wasn't a big deal.
25:56
Despite her own self hatred, Robin loved children and animals
25:59
and was a true sweet soul. She had been married
26:02
at seventeen, then divorced, then married again, but was estranged
26:07
from her husband at the time of her death. She
26:09
went missing on the night of September eighth, nineteen eighty five,
26:12
after two men in a red pickup truck picked her
26:15
up outside her house to go drinking. The details of
26:19
her death were not known for many years, even though
26:21
her body was found shortly after she went missing, lying
26:24
naked near a creek. Her stomach tattoos were one of
26:27
the things to help identify her otherwise very decomposed body.
26:31
She had been stabbed nearly fifteen times and had also
26:34
been raped and beaten. There were no leads, though Herzog
26:38
and Shermantine were suspected by those in the area just
26:41
based on who they were and how they behaved, but
26:44
basically police didn't really care that much. Only about a
26:47
month later, yet another sixteen year old girl, Chevelle Chevy Wheeler,
26:53
went missing from her high school after getting into a
26:56
red pickup truck. She told her friend she was going
26:59
to her friend Wess's cabin and told her friend to
27:01
tell her dad in case she didn't make it back
27:03
by the end of the school day. Chevy was skipping
27:06
school and seemed a little nervous about the situation, even
27:08
though she did skip school here and there. Now here's
27:11
what is insane about this next part and what makes
27:14
me so so mad. Chevy had been hanging out with Wes,
27:18
who was at this time nineteen years old and she
27:20
was sixteen. They'd been hanging out for a while, and
27:22
he even met her dad, So the family knows who
27:25
this guy is, knows he has a red pickup truck,
27:28
and her friend knows she left with him before fucking disappearing.
27:32
When the family called the police the next day, they
27:35
said there was nothing they could do. And not only
27:38
was there nothing they could do, but there was nothing
27:40
they could do, not for seventy two hours, but for
27:42
thirty days. I'm fairly sure that this is a flat
27:46
out fucking lie, and it's ridiculous that they would do
27:49
this anyway, because once again, she's a miner and she's missing,
27:53
and also there's multiple missing women and girls at this time,
27:57
and the family knows who she was with before she
27:59
went missing. Her sister confirmed that Shermantine had called the
28:03
day before, like called her house, and her friend saw
28:05
her leave school with him, so like, what is going on.
28:08
Here's where that like connections corruption kind of thing comes
28:12
into play, because it's pretty blatant, and yet they refuse
28:17
to do anything. Police did finally interview Wes and even
28:21
searched his cabin, and when they did, they found blonde
28:25
hair that matched Chevy's hair, as well as blood that
28:28
matched her blood type in the cabin. Now, as a reminder,
28:32
there wasn't DNA back then, but there was blood typing
28:34
as DNA was sort of starting to become more of
28:37
a thing, and the blood types did match. Still, police
28:41
said they didn't have enough evidence, so they did nothing,
28:44
which really makes me wonder just how rich and connected
28:48
Wes's senior was, because this is beyond egregious. Now that
28:53
being said, this possibly led to a prolonged cooling off
28:56
period for Herzog and Shermantine where they didn't kill anybody
29:00
else as far as we know, for a while, and
29:04
there were many many other suspected victims of these monsters,
29:07
but as far as we know, there was quite a
29:11
long time before another person was actually killed, although many
29:15
people were victimized in other ways, which I'm going to
29:18
talk about now. At some point in all of this
29:23
Shermantine ended up getting married and even had kids. At
29:26
one point, he had a babysitter who worked for him regularly,
29:30
That is until he lured her into his home while
29:32
nobody else was there and raped her. She went home
29:35
to her husband and told him what happened, and two
29:38
days later they reported the rape to the police, who
29:40
told her she quote waited too long to report it
29:43
so there was nothing they could do, which is unfucking believable.
29:48
He also, at one point intentionally rear ended a woman
29:51
in his red pickup truck, then abducted her when she
29:54
came out of her car to exchange information. She ended
29:58
up throwing herself out of his truck while it was
30:00
going at least eighty five miles per hour, and somehow
30:04
was mostly unharmed and was able to escape. He also
30:08
had a quote unquote friend go pay a utility bill
30:11
for him, but because he was so high on speed,
30:13
he didn't believe she actually did it, even after she
30:16
proved it, and he made her strip naked in front
30:18
of his family, not sure if children were present, to
30:21
search her body for his money. Lastly, on February fourteenth,
30:26
nineteen ninety eight, and please notice we've jumped forward about
30:30
thirteen years. Wes Shermantine called his friend Lisa Pisano to
30:35
come pick him up from a bar because he was
30:37
too drunk to drive home. Now, something tells me he
30:40
wouldn't hesitate to drive drunk, but that was his excuse
30:42
to get her alone with him. She met him at
30:45
the bar, picked him up, and immediately he forced his
30:48
way into the driver's seat of her car, then drove
30:51
her to a remote area outside of Linden. He then
30:55
raped and sodomized her, and when he was done, he
30:57
pulled her out of the car and pushed her head
30:59
against the ground. He held her there and told her
31:02
to listen to the heartbeats of the people he killed,
31:06
and then told her if she told anyone, he would
31:09
kill her young son. This guy is an absolute monster. Now,
31:14
Lisa is a badass, and she went ahead and told
31:16
the police anyway, and Wes actually ended up arrested and
31:20
went to court for this crime. And I bet you
31:22
can guess what happened. I bet you can guess why
31:24
nobody else would report him, why everybody was afraid, because
31:28
nothing fucking came of this. His defense lawyers, paid for
31:31
by his rich parents did what all scumbag lawyers did
31:35
back then and to this day, honestly and made Lisa
31:38
out to be a promiscuous drug addict, which made her
31:40
testimony worthless to the now prejudiced jury, and Wes was
31:45
set free. So despite half the town knowing what he's
31:48
up to and in him and Herzog being the lead
31:51
and sole suspects in many cases, he kept getting away
31:54
with this shit for literally fifteen years. And what's so
31:57
frustrating and also lends credibility to the idea that the
32:00
police were in his parents' pocket, was the fact that
32:03
his parents knew, at least to some degree about what
32:06
he was up to. Now, when the two men went
32:09
missing way back when and were found murdered in their car,
32:12
you know, Wes knew. Wes and Lauren knew that that
32:16
woman had seen them. They followed her home all that shit.
32:19
Wes then went to his mom the next day and
32:21
told her, oh, we drove by and saw some dead bodies.
32:24
We didn't do anything. We didn't call the police, but
32:26
we saw them. So he's starting to like spin a
32:28
story to make himself seem innocent in case the cops
32:32
come knocking and that's just the first indication, But it
32:36
turns out that he didn't really need to do that
32:38
because his parents would have covered for him anyway. His
32:41
parents actually had a girl working for them for a while,
32:43
I think, cleaning their house, who witnessed his parents literally
32:47
burning his clothing so that they could deny he lived
32:50
with them when police came looking for him after yet
32:52
another woman went missing. So I'm pretty sure they knew
32:56
and just didn't care. They just were going to cover
32:59
for their son no matter what. As far as Lauren
33:02
Herzog goes, his parents were, as far as I can tell,
33:05
completely unaware of what was going on, and his name
33:07
came up far less than Wes's and never really on
33:10
its own, And as we remember, at least when they
33:13
were younger, Lauren was considered sort of the weaker of
33:15
the two. However, even though I haven't been talking about
33:19
him that much. Later witness statements said this sort of
33:22
changed like their dynamic as time went on, and not
33:25
so much that Wes wasn't the leader, but that Lauren
33:28
himself became very mean and violent, very aggressive, and just
33:31
completely different than how he had been raised. There was
33:34
another victim who came forward and actually said that she
33:38
had been drugged, held captive, and raped by Shermantine while
33:41
Herzog watched one night, but they let her go because
33:45
she pretended not to remember anything the following morning. So
33:48
now we have an instance way back when of Shermantine
33:51
watching Hertzog, and now we have a more recent instance
33:54
of Hertzog watching Shermantine. So these dudes are definitely doing
33:58
a lot of the shit together, and it's very, very scary.
34:02
And I'm sort of bringing up Lauren's role here because
34:05
of course he's a part of this, but also his
34:07
involvement is what brings us to our last known victim,
34:12
which also I want to note this victim would not
34:14
have been murdered if Lisa Pizzano had been believed, which
34:17
is even more frustrating because she reported him for rape,
34:21
but she wasn't believed, and so these two were allowed
34:24
to continue on their spree. Now, as I mentioned, West,
34:28
Shermantine is married, and at this point so is Lauren Hertzog,
34:33
and both with kids know less, which is fucking terrible.
34:35
They're both in their early thirties and prior to getting married, Lauren,
34:38
who was kind of the more conventionally attractive. Of the
34:41
two dated around a bit, not a ton, but definitely
34:44
dated women here and there. Now. One of the women
34:47
that he ended up dating for a while was named
34:49
Kim vander Heyden, and she was the daughter of a
34:52
man who owned a few bars in Linden and the
34:54
surrounding area. Lauren and Wes would frequent the bar in
34:58
Linden called the Linden Inn to hang out with Kim
35:01
and later just because it was a place where they
35:03
knew people, including Kim's younger sister, Cindy. Cindy vander Heyden
35:08
was twenty five years old at the time that she
35:10
was murdered and worked at the bar from time to
35:13
time and also hung out there when she wasn't working,
35:15
because you know, when you're in your twenties, you hang
35:17
out at bars. And also, I don't think there's a
35:19
lot to do in the area. I've kind of mentioned
35:21
this a few times. So Cindy was really cool. She
35:25
was super energetic, she was really pretty. People called her
35:28
Tigger because she was so bouncy and fun. Now Tigger
35:32
from Winnie the Pooh the Disney I don't know if
35:35
it's Disney anyway, I think it predates Disney, but anyway,
35:37
Tigger from Winnie the Pooh, and she even wore a
35:41
little bracelet that had Tigger on it, which very sadly,
35:44
she was wearing the day that she went missing. So
35:47
let's kind of talk about what happens to Cindy, and
35:49
this is going to sort of bring us home a
35:51
little bit here. So on the night of November fourteenth,
35:54
nineteen ninety eight, Cindy was hanging out at the bar,
35:57
the Linden Inn, and Lauren and West were also there
36:00
on this night. They seem to be chatting Cyndia up
36:03
quite a bit, despite you know, both of them being married,
36:06
and I think we know why, but I don't think
36:08
she knew why. But at the end of the night,
36:10
she apparently did drive her own car home. Her friend
36:14
even followed her to make sure she got home okay,
36:16
which is a very high quality friend thing to do. Unfortunately, though,
36:20
it didn't make a difference in the end, because after
36:23
her friend left, it's not exactly clear what happened, but
36:27
we believe that she left of her own volition. Just
36:30
so you know, her parents remember hearing her car pull in,
36:33
but nine other could recall if they heard her actually
36:36
coming through the front door, because they kind of just
36:37
went back to sleep. They're like, oh, she's home, went
36:40
back to bed. Now, Cydya had just moved back in
36:42
with them so she could pursue her dream of acting,
36:45
so she'd only been back in the area for a
36:47
short time. In any case, her parents hear her car
36:50
pull up, they go back to sleep, and the next
36:52
morning they wake up and they realize that Sydney's not there.
36:56
They look out front and they see that her car
36:58
is already gone, and they're like, huh, we wonder where
37:00
she went. It wasn't until later, when she still hadn't
37:03
come home, that her dad got scared and went looking
37:05
for her. Pretty quickly, he found her abandoned car by
37:09
the local city cemetery full of her things. So it
37:12
was that like she had brought her id, she'd brought
37:15
her wallet and then got out of her car and
37:17
left all of those things inside. Now, of course, the
37:20
police didn't take this seriously at first, so her parents
37:23
put together searches of their own, which is great because
37:25
they had money similar to Wes's family, which allowed them
37:28
to hire a helicopter and search for her in the
37:31
woods and do other things that, like a lot of
37:32
people in the area, weren't able to do when their
37:35
family members went missing. Within a few days, police knew
37:39
that the last people seen talking to her were Wes
37:43
and Lauren, and they had a long list of possible
37:46
victims similar to Cindy, spanning over fifteen years. So these
37:49
two became top suspects, but again, not a lot to
37:53
go on. However, finally the cops are actually starting to
37:57
like take this seriously and look for ways to bring
38:00
in and very luckily they caught a break when just
38:04
a few months later, Wes Shermantine defaulted on his car
38:08
loan and his car was repossessed. Now I want to
38:11
say this wasn't his red truck at this point he
38:12
had got a different car, but either way, he still
38:15
transported and probably killed victims in his car, So this
38:20
was a great find. Once in custody of the dealership,
38:24
police were able to search this car and they found bloodstains.
38:28
They found bloodstains on the passenger headrest and in the trunk,
38:31
and at this point DNA had come into play like
38:34
it was a thing. So because the police knew these
38:36
two assholes never did anything without the other one there,
38:39
they decided to not bring Wesley Shermantine in for an interview,
38:43
even though it was his car where they found the evidence,
38:45
but instead they wanted to focus on Lauren Hertzog. They
38:49
did this because, like everybody else, they saw him as
38:52
the weaker of the pair and expected they would get
38:54
more information out of him than they would Wess and
38:57
damn if they weren't right. Waved his right to a
39:00
lawyer and sang like a fucking canary. He told police
39:04
that not only did West Shermantine kill Cindy Vanderhyden, but
39:07
they also killed Chevy Wheeler and Howard King and Paul Cavanaugh.
39:12
He also told police about their first victim, Henry Howell,
39:15
but of course blamed every single murder on Wes, and
39:19
also said that Wes killed Robin Armtrout and I believe
39:23
in that instance. He tried to, at least at first,
39:26
say that he wasn't even present for that, although it
39:28
later came out that he definitely was.
39:31
Speaker 2: So.
39:31
Speaker 1: Lauren was a bit flippant about most of the murders,
39:34
but seemed very upset by the murder of Cindy, maybe
39:37
because he'd previously dated her sister, or maybe because it
39:41
was fresher in his mind. But either way, he seemed
39:44
like sick to his stomach over the murder, and especially
39:47
when he was going into the details, which unfortunately he
39:50
did do. According to Lauren, Cindy had met them of
39:54
her own volition, drove her own car to the cemetery
39:57
in Clemente, California, which was right by her house, so
40:00
they could snort some speed and hang out for a
40:02
little while. They did, in fact, according to Lauren, snort
40:06
the speed and pretty immediately after Wes began assaulting Cindy.
40:11
They first got her into his car, then drove her
40:13
deep into the woods, where Wes then raped her while
40:16
she begged Lauren to help her, he of course did nothing.
40:21
When Wes was done, he cut Cindy's throat, and unfortunately,
40:25
it took a while for her to die, and while
40:27
she was dying, she was asking them to help her,
40:30
praying and fighting to get Wes off from on top
40:34
of her so that she could try to escape. Just
40:36
before she died, Wes told her to quote, just let
40:39
it come natural, fucking haunting shit. After Cindy was dead,
40:46
the men dumped her body and went on their way,
40:49
or maybe what I should say is that Shermantine dumped
40:53
her body, because when Lauren was giving up all of
40:56
this information, he still did not divulge the location of
40:59
her body, nor any others that we know of. And
41:02
to be clear, none of the victim's bodies besides Robbin's,
41:05
had been found at the time these men were arrested
41:08
and tried for these murders, which is crazy and part
41:11
of me wonders if Lauren really didn't know where the
41:14
bodies were, or maybe he was just saying that he
41:17
didn't as a way of proving his innocence kind of thing,
41:20
because he was trying to blame it all on Wes.
41:24
In any case, he was interrogated for seventeen hours and
41:27
gave up all of the above information during that time. Now,
41:30
as a note, this was like February nineteen ninety nine.
41:34
He had actually been interviewed back in November nineteen ninety eight,
41:37
but this was before Wes's car was repolled, and once
41:40
Lauren sort of you know, realized they were caught, he
41:43
turned on Wes immediately. His lifelong best friend didn't mean
41:47
shit to him the moment he saw jail in front
41:50
of him. Now, Wes was also interrogated about a month
41:54
later in March of nineteen ninety nine, but they waited
41:56
until after the DNA in his car tested positive as
42:01
being Cindy vander Heyden's blood. So at first he's saying like, well,
42:05
I don't know whose blood that is, because thinking back
42:07
to when he killed Chevy Wheeler, you know, they were like, well,
42:10
we know there's blood in your cabin, but we can't
42:12
prove who's it is. So this dude didn't realize how
42:15
far DNA technology had come, and once he sort of
42:18
had to explain to him how it worked, he went
42:21
from I don't know if that's her blood to I
42:23
don't know how it got there. Basically, it's not mine, officer.
42:27
So pretty fucking stupid. Now, even though he was given
42:32
the opportunity, he didn't blame Lauren right away. First, he
42:37
tried to use him as sort of like an alibi.
42:39
But as time went on, he started saying, oh, yeah,
42:41
he's threatened me before, he's pulled a gun on me.
42:45
But right is he's about to get to the point
42:47
in his interview where he just straight up blames Lauren
42:50
instead he lawyers up. Now. Regardless, both men were arrested
42:56
and like I said, using DNA from Sherman Tine's car,
43:00
tried for five I think five murders in total. Now,
43:04
the funny thing is that Lauren actually thought that if
43:06
he blamed Wes, he would be able to walk free,
43:09
which is absolutely insane considering he admitted to being present
43:12
for multiple murders over multiple years. I watched some of
43:17
his interviews, like I think I mentioned, and he's really
43:19
animated and angry, keep saying he's gonna choose his family
43:23
over Wes. But like, I just don't understand why he
43:27
thought that that would happen for him, very very fucking weird. Now,
43:32
during the trial, multiple women came forward about Wes raping
43:36
them or otherwise abusing them, but not a lot about Lauren,
43:39
which does lend credibility to the idea that maybe he
43:42
wasn't quite as involved. But still, come on, come on,
43:47
all that said, when all was sudden done, what I'm
43:52
saying is sorry, guys making fun of my storytelling there.
43:54
But anyway, all that said, both men were convicted of
43:58
well they were both convicted I think of four murders
44:01
with the murders of Cindy vander Heyden Howell Cavanaugh, Robin Armtrout,
44:07
and King. Lauren was found guilty on one of those,
44:11
for only manslaughter, but either way he was sentenced to
44:13
seventy eight years in prison, while Shermantine was given the
44:17
death penalty. Now, normally this would be the end of
44:20
the story, but this story has a fun little end
44:24
to it, and I don't want to say fun, but
44:25
just interesting, little little footnote. I guess I shouldn't really
44:31
call it a footnote because it's like a ps that
44:33
turns into its own two page letter. But basically, after
44:38
they were convicted, Lauren fought his convictions, and believe it
44:44
or not, he fucking won. He had I think four
44:50
of the convictions overturned in two thousand and four, after
44:54
he'd spent only about four years in prison. Now he
44:57
was found guilty of a lesser charge on the fifth,
45:00
or would have been, but he ended up taking a
45:03
plea deal to avoid more jail time and he was
45:06
given I think twelve years as a result. Between the
45:09
jail time he'd already done and his good behavior, he
45:12
was released on parole in twenty ten. If you can
45:16
believe it, this man who took part in who knows
45:20
how many murders, but at least five, plus multiple rapes
45:24
and other attempted murders and horrible things. He got twelve
45:27
years and was released. Now, this was much to the
45:31
anger of the victims' families and the local communities, and
45:34
as a result, none of the nearby cities would take
45:37
him at none of them would allow him to rehab
45:39
there because you have to go to like a halfway house.
45:42
Nobody would accept him. So what the prison did was
45:45
they put him in a trailer on their property just
45:49
outside of the prison, where he basically lived alone with
45:52
no friends, definitely not his family, and was just sort
45:56
of doing his parole and biding time. So it definitely
46:01
wasn't a good life, but he was on the outside.
46:05
And I gotta tell you this did not sit well
46:07
with Leslie Shermantine, who at this point had been pretty
46:10
tight lipped about things beyond trying to say that it
46:12
was all Lauren's fault, and the anger that good old
46:15
Weshre felt caused him to decide to do something kind
46:20
of crazy but ultimately very good for all of the victims.
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He came forward and he spilled the beans on where
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all of the victims were buried. So he starts doing
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this in twenty ten by sending letters to one of
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his sisters, and in these letters he's drawing maps giving
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the locations of various victims' bodies. Now, the first set
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of maps showed victims' bodies that were buried near an
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abandoned well in Lynden, California. Police went to the owner
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of the well and he said, no, no, no, that
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well has been filled in long before those murders took place.
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So police took this dude at his word and didn't
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dig up shit and just went along their merry way.
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Sound familiar, Chris and smart anybody. Two years later, Shermantine
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continued kind of expressing interest in telling where the bodies were,
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and a bounty hunter came forward and said to him,
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I'll give you thirty five thousand dollars if you draw
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up those maps and send them to me and we
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get some bodies. So once again Shermantine sends the maps out,
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this time to this bounty hunter, and police this time
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decide to dig up the well. Now, before they did,
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this bounty hunter Leonard Padilla, who called himself Leonard Padilla,
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which I think is so funny, reached out to Lauren
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Hertzog and told him what was going on. Now, I
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think he was probably telling Lauren in an attempt to
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get him to kind of give up the information first,
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or corroborate it, or do something to kind of save
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his ass. But I think Lauren was a bit more
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involved in these murders than we even realized, because as
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a result of learning this information, this motherfucker hung himself
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out in his little trailer on his little property on
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the prison grounds and died like the loser sack of
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shit that he was. Now after Shermantine sent these maps
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to the bounty hunter, police finally did go back and
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dig up that well that the owner had claimed had
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been filled in, and wouldn't you know it, they found
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literally thousands of brone fragments, as well as beer cans,
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a woman's ring, purses, and clothing that belonged to some
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of the victims. There were three bodies found at this site.
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The first was nineteen year old Kimberly and Billy, the
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second was sixteen year old Joanne Hobson, whose mother Joan
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had been searching for her since the day she went missing,
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and the third was a still unidentified female who had
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been pregnant at the time, so there was actually a
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fourth baby body there, a little fetus as well. From here,
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Shermantine wrote more letters to the bounty hunter, who then
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had police dig up two other sites where his family
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owned land in Calaveras County near where they lived. So
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this site was kind of directly tied to West Shermantine,
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whereas the other one was dubbed Herdzog's Boneyard, which I
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think was just like a media thing. In this second
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dig site, police found Cindy vander Heyden's body or pieces
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of it, and not even that many pieces of it
49:19
because they decided to dig this area up with a
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giant back ho which definitely pulverized many of the bones
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and made it difficult for the recovery teams to recover
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the bodies. In another well in the same area, they
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found the remains of sixteen year old Chevy Wheeler, and
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finally her family was able to lay her to rest.
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Remember the runaway that the police couldn't do anything about
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for thirty days. I forgot to mention, Oh no, I didn't.
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I told you guys about the fetus and the woman,
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and that's about it. Sherman Tine was led out once
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or twice to help quote unquote find bones, but it
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seems he's just lying to get out of prison for
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the day at this point, as nothing else has really
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been found. That being said is to believe that at
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a minimum they had killed nineteen people, but maybe as
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many as seventy or more, though unfortunately will likely never know. Now.
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One thing I wanted to do to sort of close
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the loop on the horrific job done by the police
50:13
and potential corruption that I'd mentioned was sort of say
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that as soon as the bodies were found, the family
50:20
started coming forward and being like, Hey, this is really
50:23
blatant the way you guys are handling this. You're clearly
50:25
doing this on purpose to cover something up. And what
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the family is alleged starting in twenty twelve, was that
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the recovery efforts were done so poorly in an attempt
50:35
to actually destroy the bone evidence so that they couldn't
50:39
tell whose bodies were in the ground. Because prior to this,
50:43
police had either accidentally or intentionally lost multiple cases relating
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to missing girls and women in the area that were
50:53
likely victims of Hertzog and Shermantine. So whether or not
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this was an intentional cover up. It all sort of
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leads back to, like, why wasn't any of this being
51:03
taken seriously at the time, What the hell is going on?
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In fact, one of the families, I think, the vander Heyden's,
51:09
because they had money to do so, sued the city
51:12
or the police department or the sheriff's department, I should say,
51:15
And I do believe that they won because when they
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received their daughter, it was like they said, they got
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three arms, they got the bones for three arms. So
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somebody else's child is being sent in part to them,
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and they're not even getting their full child because they
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did such a shitty job on the recovery. I don't know.
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So anyway, this is a really terrible case. It's hard
51:38
for me to do serial killers. I don't know. You
51:40
guys might see that I don't do quite as many.
51:43
Maybe I'm sure I'll mix them in, but I feel
51:45
like it doesn't give you quite enough time to really
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focus on each individual murder, which I think is an
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important thing to do when you're talking about victims, to
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have the time to talk about the victims, to talk
51:54
about the impacts of their deaths. But Hopefully you all
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enjoy this. Thanks everybody again for listening. I'm gonna finish
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this kind of cut it short. I've been having a
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hell of a time recording. I think I just need
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a new computer, so hopefully the sound is okay. Thanks
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everybody for listening. Please like, rate, review, share with your
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friends and family. I'll be back next week with another
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California case, and until then, stay safe.