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- 0:27what is going on everybody
- 0:30that is the coolest song of
- 0:31any of our openings like
- 0:33that is the best one I i
- 0:35could listen I don't get
- 0:35sick of it at all that's good
- 0:39We are here live,
- 0:41early edition of Thursday
- 0:43Night CrossFit Talk.
- 0:44We're about an hour and a
- 0:45half before our normal start time.
- 0:48The reason is,
- 0:49is one of my best friend's wife,
- 0:51and she's also one of my best friends,
- 0:54is turning 50 tonight, or today.
- 0:58And so we're going out to
- 0:59dinner after this to
- 1:01celebrate her 50th birthday.
- 1:03So we just moved this up a
- 1:04little bit so we could go do that.
- 1:06But I've never eaten this late.
- 1:09I've never eaten this late.
- 1:11It's been a long time,
- 1:12unless I'm at the games.
- 1:14And to stay up this late is
- 1:16going to be a tough, tough, tough thing.
- 1:20So I'm just going to try to hang in there.
- 1:25Did you get your Zone 2 in today?
- 1:29I did.
- 1:30Right after I talked to you,
- 1:32right after I texted you,
- 1:33I went right out to the garage.
- 1:35Okay.
- 1:36I will tell you, it went pretty well.
- 1:40My butt's not used to
- 1:41sitting for that long.
- 1:42But other than that, it went pretty well.
- 1:45Other than the allergies are
- 1:47so bad in my front yard still.
- 1:49It's raining.
- 1:50I'm hoping they go away.
- 1:53But I coughed so hard that I
- 1:56got lightheaded.
- 1:58And I was like,
- 1:59if I just cough myself back into AFib...
- 2:03So that's why I posted that
- 2:04cardio mobile thing on Instagram,
- 2:05because like,
- 2:07at least now I can like run in,
- 2:08check my EKG.
- 2:10Everything's good.
- 2:12I'm safe and go back and do whatever.
- 2:16But it was really scary.
- 2:17Like, cause I, it was like,
- 2:18I almost blacked out for a second.
- 2:20I coughed so hard.
- 2:22Jeez.
- 2:24Well,
- 2:24it looked like you had a big workout
- 2:26on Tuesday.
- 2:29Wednesday.
- 2:30Wednesday.
- 2:31Was it?
- 2:31Yes.
- 2:31No, it was two days ago.
- 2:34Maybe it was yesterday.
- 2:35I don't know,
- 2:36but you made it to zone four.
- 2:37I did.
- 2:38I did.
- 2:39That was yesterday.
- 2:41That was interval interval
- 2:42and they were sprint intervals.
- 2:46So it was, and again,
- 2:49everything is about
- 2:49confidence for me right now.
- 2:51Like what can my body take?
- 2:54And so it was a,
- 2:57that one was a hundred meter run.
- 2:59I, I did.
- 3:03I'm wrong.
- 3:04400 meter run.
- 3:05Okay.
- 3:06No hundred meter run.
- 3:07And I did 300 meter bike
- 3:11into 12 wall ball shots.
- 3:14I scaled it to air squats.
- 3:16Cause I just, the weight on my body,
- 3:19we're not there yet.
- 3:21And then it was, uh, shoot.
- 3:24What was the next thing?
- 3:26Oh, dumbbell snatches,
- 3:28eight alternating dumbbell snatches.
- 3:32one minute rest, do it again, six times.
- 3:34And each one was supposed to be a sprint.
- 3:37Um, and I did the dumbbell snatches.
- 3:39I'm broken.
- 3:40Um,
- 3:41and I'm back up to a 35 pound dumbbell.
- 3:44Very good.
- 3:44That was, that was good.
- 3:46Leaking my way up with that.
- 3:47I'm able to go on broken.
- 3:50my leg fatigue is so fast now.
- 3:52And that's why I really just
- 3:53went with air squats.
- 3:55But, um, but yeah,
- 3:56I got to zone four by the end.
- 3:58I was really,
- 3:59I felt like I could push and
- 4:01I got some confidence as it went on.
- 4:03And so the last little bit, I,
- 4:05I pushed and the guy beside me, super,
- 4:08super fast.
- 4:08And I scaled it back and I
- 4:11just wanted to stay like in his vicinity.
- 4:12And I was able to do that.
- 4:15So I had that, that competitive, uh,
- 4:18Tick is, is coming back.
- 4:23So, yeah, but as hard as that was,
- 4:26I just got off the phone
- 4:28with my mom before we went
- 4:29on the air and she was
- 4:33trying to find a show on Hulu.
- 4:36And I was trying to tell her
- 4:38how to navigate without
- 4:40being able to see the
- 4:41screen and her not
- 4:43understanding what I'm saying.
- 4:47Yeah, that's rough.
- 4:49I don't know if there's
- 4:50anything in this world.
- 4:51I love my mom to death and
- 4:52we have great conversations,
- 4:54but I'm not sure there's
- 4:55anything in this world that
- 4:57gets me frustrated faster
- 4:59than those episodes.
- 5:03Because she knows I know
- 5:04like tech to some degree
- 5:06and she's like getting
- 5:07frustrated that I can't
- 5:09explain it to her in a way
- 5:10that she understands.
- 5:11And she has no clue what I'm saying.
- 5:13Yeah.
- 5:17My dad will do the same.
- 5:18And at this point,
- 5:19I usually make him video
- 5:20call me so I can see what he's doing.
- 5:23Oh, we were on video.
- 5:25And she got up and left the
- 5:26video phone across the room.
- 5:29Oh, yeah.
- 5:29Staring at a wall.
- 5:31Yeah.
- 5:32It's not helping.
- 5:34Yeah.
- 5:35It's not helping.
- 5:36Oh, that's great.
- 5:40But, you know,
- 5:41I want to talk a little TV talk.
- 5:43One show I've been
- 5:44forgetting to talk about is Will Trent.
- 5:47If you have not seen Will Trent,
- 5:50it is a must, must see.
- 5:52Okay.
- 5:54And it is, I thought it was,
- 5:56I thought it was great last
- 5:58year and it is elevated season two.
- 6:02What's it about?
- 6:04He is an,
- 6:06an orphan who came up through the
- 6:08foster care system.
- 6:10Okay.
- 6:10And it was not pretty.
- 6:12Um,
- 6:14And he's a, he's a GBI agent,
- 6:17which is Georgia Bureau of Investigation.
- 6:20Okay.
- 6:22And he is,
- 6:24and they work with the Atlanta PD.
- 6:28And so one of the people
- 6:30that was an orphan with him
- 6:32and came up through the
- 6:33same system is one of the
- 6:34Atlanta PD officers.
- 6:38And so it's kind of their
- 6:39parallel stories of,
- 6:41using him as the main
- 6:42character but investigating
- 6:44crime but he it's very
- 6:46monkish like when he looks
- 6:49at a crime scene he just
- 6:50sees things that other
- 6:51people don't see um but
- 6:53it's it's got a quirkiness
- 6:55that even monk didn't have
- 6:57that's super cool highly
- 7:00recommend what's it on abc okay I can i
- 7:08I see Ken mentioned fallout.
- 7:10Um,
- 7:10I actually got that alert like on my
- 7:13phone Wednesday,
- 7:15Wednesday or Tuesday that
- 7:16that was coming out on prime.
- 7:17So yeah, I might check that out too.
- 7:19Yeah.
- 7:19One of the most frustrating
- 7:20games I've ever played in my life.
- 7:23I am not good at those like
- 7:25seek and find games.
- 7:26I call them where it's just
- 7:28an open map and you can go
- 7:30wherever I always get lost.
- 7:32I have no idea where I'm going.
- 7:35Always get eaten by the
- 7:36radioactive wolves in the
- 7:38middle of the desert.
- 7:40Yeah.
- 7:41So bad at that game.
- 7:44Um,
- 7:45the other thing I wanted to say about
- 7:46TV is I just saw the,
- 7:47the season finale of hot
- 7:49ones for this season.
- 7:51Okay.
- 7:52Conan O'Brien.
- 7:54If you just want 20 minutes
- 7:55of pure laughter.
- 7:58Check it out on YouTube.
- 7:59All right.
- 7:59So good.
- 8:01And the premise is that
- 8:02Conan is trying to play the
- 8:05bit that these wings aren't
- 8:06affecting him at all.
- 8:08Oh.
- 8:10And so he starts cracking
- 8:12open the sauces and dumping
- 8:13extra sauce on everything, chugging it.
- 8:17Oh, no.
- 8:18And it hits a point where he said,
- 8:21you know when you have
- 8:21regrets in this life?
- 8:25Oof.
- 8:27Yeah,
- 8:27that does not sound like that would
- 8:29be fun.
- 8:29I was rolling so hard.
- 8:34He did that with a bomb.
- 8:37Oh, no.
- 8:39And it got him.
- 8:43And it's funny because Sean, the host,
- 8:46is like, I was going to warn you,
- 8:47but as cocky as you were at
- 8:48the beginning of the show, I was like,
- 8:50let's just see this play out.
- 8:53Oh, man.
- 8:54Yeah.
- 8:56He does have a new show coming to max.
- 8:59It's a travel show.
- 9:00And he says on this that it's,
- 9:03it's really designed to make you dumber.
- 9:07Like you're not going to
- 9:07learn anything about these places.
- 9:09You'll probably learn no
- 9:11less when we're done.
- 9:12So,
- 9:14but I don't know if that's a bit or if
- 9:17that's truly what this is about or,
- 9:19or whatever, but.
- 9:22I finished up the physical 100.
- 9:26Did you watch any of that in
- 9:28the first season?
- 9:29No.
- 9:30No.
- 9:31This one piqued my curiosity
- 9:33because it started out with
- 9:35100 air runners.
- 9:38They just have 100 air
- 9:39runners in a room and
- 9:41everyone gets on one and
- 9:42it's 10 minutes of running.
- 9:45they didn't say what the rest was,
- 9:46but you do like 10 minutes of running,
- 9:47then seven minutes of running,
- 9:48then five minutes of running.
- 9:50And it was like 50 got eliminated.
- 9:52So you kind of had to run hard.
- 9:55Yeah.
- 9:55But you also had to,
- 9:57but you also had to maintain.
- 9:58So it was like, I don't know.
- 9:59It was really cool.
- 10:00Um, but yeah, just finished that show.
- 10:04There was a few CrossFitters on there.
- 10:06I won't spoil it for anybody.
- 10:07Yeah.
- 10:08Mm-hmm.
- 10:10I've heard like I've heard
- 10:11it's an OK show like and
- 10:13it's to get exposure for
- 10:15like the fitness competition thing.
- 10:17Yeah,
- 10:18but it's like it's like kind of like
- 10:22every like Japanese game show,
- 10:25like not the greatest editing,
- 10:28like they'll replay like
- 10:29the same scene four times
- 10:31with a reaction.
- 10:32And it's just like, all right,
- 10:33we could have just like you
- 10:34could have just played out what happened.
- 10:37But it's it's it's really not bad.
- 10:41Yeah.
- 10:43Um, Kenneth says, spoil it.
- 10:46Well, the CrossFitter wins.
- 10:49Nice.
- 10:50Yeah.
- 10:53Is it someone we know?
- 10:55no um he's actually I tried
- 10:58looking him up um he
- 11:00actually I don't even I
- 11:01don't know how serious he
- 11:02is so much anymore he got
- 11:04in a car accident and broke
- 11:06his ankle and they showed a
- 11:07little bit of that and so
- 11:08he like had I think he has
- 11:09a little bit of um probably like
- 11:12ankle mobility issues.
- 11:14But they had like a squatting challenge.
- 11:16It was called like endless
- 11:17squats and it looked nasty and he,
- 11:19he crushed it.
- 11:21So he clearly can still squat.
- 11:23I just, and like they did,
- 11:24they did a pull up challenge.
- 11:25Yeah, it was, he, he was great.
- 11:29I wasn't sure he would win.
- 11:30Standards?
- 11:33No, they said they were like,
- 11:35the group agreed on a
- 11:38standard before they started this,
- 11:39and they didn't show you
- 11:41what they agreed on,
- 11:42but they clearly had
- 11:44decided whatever they agreed,
- 11:46and they allowed literally everything.
- 11:50not full extension they like
- 11:52they would let them sort of
- 11:53like they would let them
- 11:54kip I don't think really
- 11:55any of them knew how to kip
- 11:56it was oh it was like kind
- 11:58of like you what you would
- 11:59see at the games when the
- 12:00army has just their rack
- 12:02stand yeah so they like the
- 12:04guys were standing on it
- 12:05and they're on it so it's
- 12:06not really one you would
- 12:07want to like butterfly kip
- 12:08on so he didn't do that um so okay
- 12:14One of the other big news of
- 12:15the TV world is the female
- 12:19basketball tournament out
- 12:21drew the male basketball tournament.
- 12:25And I thought that was cool
- 12:26because we follow a sport
- 12:29where the women get paid
- 12:31just as much as the men and
- 12:35the women are just as popular as the men.
- 12:38And how cool is it that
- 12:40other sports are now kind
- 12:41of catching up to that?
- 12:43Yeah, it's pretty awesome.
- 12:44And another piece of
- 12:45evidence I just happened
- 12:46upon earlier in the week is
- 12:48in college sports last year,
- 12:53three of the top 10 INL earners.
- 12:56So name, image,
- 12:56and likeness that you can
- 12:58now earn money in college were female.
- 13:01That's crazy.
- 13:03It was angel Reese and then
- 13:05two in the top five,
- 13:07which were Caitlin Clark.
- 13:09And number three overall was Libby Dunn.
- 13:13And if you know a Viora that
- 13:16they always have that
- 13:18clothing line that tried to
- 13:19jump into CrossFit,
- 13:21she is their main spokesperson.
- 13:23Viori.
- 13:24That's it.
- 13:24Okay.
- 13:25Yeah.
- 13:26She is their main spokesperson.
- 13:27So every Viori ad shows her.
- 13:31And she's a gymnast for LSU.
- 13:35Okay.
- 13:37That's great.
- 13:38That's awesome.
- 13:39Yeah.
- 13:39So two of the top three
- 13:41women are from LSU.
- 13:43because uh angel reese plays
- 13:45basketball for lsu and livy
- 13:48dunn plays or does
- 13:50gymnastics so yeah I just
- 13:56think it's a cool way that
- 13:57the landscape is shifting
- 14:01yeah I didn't I wasn't that
- 14:03I didn't follow the
- 14:04tournament that much once
- 14:06msu was out and I mean I would like
- 14:09peek at my bra.
- 14:10I actually won my bracket in my family.
- 14:12Um, there's like 20 of us.
- 14:14Um,
- 14:15but I would just like peek at the game.
- 14:17I was just not really that interested.
- 14:20I literally watched more
- 14:22women's basketball than
- 14:23men's this year by far.
- 14:29I've my teams are never good
- 14:30at basketball.
- 14:31So like they're never in the
- 14:33tournament anymore.
- 14:35So yeah.
- 14:38MSU usually makes it.
- 14:42Usually they do well.
- 14:44Yeah.
- 14:48Well, on to the CrossFit stuff.
- 14:50All right.
- 14:52We're going to start with
- 14:55the burpee competition that
- 14:57just didn't end.
- 15:02So it started with Colton
- 15:03Mertens and Jake Berman.
- 15:06TTT making a claim that Jake
- 15:08Berman was the best burpee person.
- 15:11And Jake did clarify that,
- 15:12that he actually said burpee box overs.
- 15:17Well,
- 15:17I think he just said he's the fastest
- 15:20burpeer in the game in that interview.
- 15:22But yes, he agreed.
- 15:24He should have clarified and said, yeah,
- 15:27yeah.
- 15:28he was a good sport um did
- 15:31it and still phenomenal
- 15:33time he finished with a
- 15:34time of 344 100 bar over
- 15:36burpees insanity in my mind
- 15:40colton took it way further
- 15:43uh and did it in 319. yeah
- 15:46gross watching him pick up
- 15:48the speed in the last 10 to
- 15:5115 and so impressive how
- 15:55that guy can just block out the pain
- 15:59And go dark and do whatever it takes,
- 16:03especially in a head-to-head competition.
- 16:07The coolest part is Colton
- 16:08earned a grand from
- 16:10Swolverine for winning the challenge.
- 16:14And I think that what this
- 16:16demonstrates the most is
- 16:19events like this can grow
- 16:21this sport in more ways than one.
- 16:24One, it can pique some interest.
- 16:27I looked down at one time,
- 16:29a spin had over a thousand viewers live.
- 16:38In another way,
- 16:40giving the athletes an
- 16:43opportunity to earn funds
- 16:45to help pay for their
- 16:46season will allow them to do more things.
- 16:49For sure.
- 16:51And that's going to help grow the sport.
- 16:55So thousand dollars from
- 16:57Wolverine is pretty freaking awesome.
- 16:59Then an hour later, the fittest dwarf,
- 17:02Tim Murray tried to break.
- 17:07Um,
- 17:08Kenneth says the highest he saw for
- 17:10spin was 1.3.
- 17:12I knew it was way up there.
- 17:13I, I didn't want to quote a number.
- 17:15I knew it was well over a thousand.
- 17:18Um,
- 17:20Tim Murray tried to compete
- 17:23with Jake and Colton and I
- 17:26got to hand it.
- 17:26He came close, man.
- 17:29He did incredible.
- 17:30I like,
- 17:33I would have loved to seen him do
- 17:34it over bar on the ground
- 17:36or like on fives or
- 17:37something just like shorter
- 17:39and seeing how like
- 17:40competitive of a time he did,
- 17:42but props to him for doing
- 17:43it legit and being as he was,
- 17:45he did so good.
- 17:46I think.
- 17:49as like a big middle finger to the world,
- 17:51like I can still do hard things.
- 17:55He made sure that bar seemed easy,
- 17:58but you and I both know
- 17:59that the amount of energy
- 18:00expended for him to do that
- 18:02nonstop was going to affect his stamina.
- 18:06For sure.
- 18:06Yep.
- 18:09But for him to do that and do it in 414,
- 18:13like I...
- 18:18Just huge.
- 18:20And he earned $3,500.
- 18:22I know.
- 18:24From CA Peptides,
- 18:27from the community at large,
- 18:29people donating in the chat.
- 18:32Again, huge for the sport.
- 18:35One, adaptive scene,
- 18:37getting exposure like this.
- 18:39Hey,
- 18:39we can do hard things and we're really
- 18:42damn good at it.
- 18:44Yeah.
- 18:45Um,
- 18:45plus that probably pays for his trip to
- 18:48the games this year.
- 18:49That's got a, that's the big chunk.
- 18:51Yeah.
- 18:52Like that's huge.
- 18:53And what,
- 18:54what a relief for him that that's
- 18:58taken care of.
- 19:01Then John young this morning,
- 19:05people were calling him out to town.
- 19:10Could not respect this dude anymore.
- 19:12To go down, do this.
- 19:15If he breaks five minutes,
- 19:17CA Peptides is going to pay him $1,000.
- 19:19He gets $459.
- 19:19I was shocked.
- 19:30Yeah.
- 19:32I mean,
- 19:32I would have said there was like a
- 19:3510% chance he could,
- 19:37he could break five minutes
- 19:38going into that.
- 19:38I thought like maybe five 30 ish.
- 19:41What I figured was what
- 19:42happened was he was going
- 19:43to go out hot for 50 and
- 19:46the last 50 were going to be slow.
- 19:48And I figured he'd be
- 19:48crawling like four or five
- 19:50seconds of burpee on the last 10.
- 19:52Like he'd be another 40
- 19:53seconds on the last 10 and
- 19:55that would bump him up to like five 30.
- 19:57Like,
- 19:58Um, but man, his finish was incredible.
- 20:04Like he, he got faster at the end.
- 20:06So yeah, he,
- 20:08he did great and stepped up to the plate.
- 20:12Jay Birch,
- 20:13just listening and moving air
- 20:14squats and burpees in honor
- 20:15of all those burpee
- 20:17warriors from yesterday and today.
- 20:19Good for you, Jay Birch.
- 20:24I zoned too, cause I was sore AF.
- 20:26So
- 20:29Um,
- 20:30but he got the thousand from California
- 20:33peptides peptides and a
- 20:36$500 donation from someone in the chat,
- 20:381500 bucks.
- 20:40Again,
- 20:41this is money to help athletes who
- 20:44aren't your top five.
- 20:47Right.
- 20:48Do great things in the season.
- 20:50And I think that goes a long
- 20:51way to get exposure for them.
- 20:54And what I thought was the
- 20:54coolest part and so subtle
- 20:57is the confidence that John
- 20:58Young got by completing
- 21:00that task and the hype that
- 21:04Taylor was giving him.
- 21:06Yeah.
- 21:07That this is what you need
- 21:09to do three days a week to
- 21:12be a semifinalist in 2025.
- 21:16And you could tell in John's
- 21:17reaction that he believes it now.
- 21:23And I thought that might've
- 21:25been the coolest thing I saw all weekend.
- 21:29Yeah.
- 21:30Yeah.
- 21:30It was awesome hearing Taylor.
- 21:34Yeah.
- 21:34Just like be proud of him,
- 21:35be proud of his effort.
- 21:36Like you could tell it was
- 21:37like super happy for him.
- 21:40That was cool.
- 21:42John takes a lot of slings
- 21:43and arrows in everything he does, right?
- 21:46But you can tell the love
- 21:48that people have for him
- 21:50during that event today,
- 21:51and it was so cool to see.
- 21:53Yeah.
- 21:55He stepped up to the plate.
- 21:57So,
- 22:00this kind of brings me to something we
- 22:02started talking about last week,
- 22:06but it was also a subject
- 22:07on Death By this week about...
- 22:12There's a new app that's
- 22:14become a sponsor of CrossFit.
- 22:17Hustle Up?
- 22:18Hustle Up.
- 22:20That's the title sponsor of our games.
- 22:25Yeah.
- 22:26So that is your title sponsor?
- 22:27That's the title sponsor of
- 22:29the Masters games.
- 22:31Yeah.
- 22:32And they're the title
- 22:33sponsor of the semifinals for Elite's.
- 22:38Are they the title?
- 22:38I didn't know they were the
- 22:39title sponsor of semis.
- 22:40I just knew they were.
- 22:41They are the sponsor,
- 22:43like the main sponsor for semifinals.
- 22:47Interesting.
- 22:49So they must be bringing some cash.
- 22:52Hmm.
- 22:56The question on death by was like,
- 22:59we don't,
- 23:00we don't even know who this company is.
- 23:01Right.
- 23:01They're pretty brand new.
- 23:04How good is it?
- 23:06Or what does it mean that
- 23:11we're accepting money from this?
- 23:12We don't even know who they are.
- 23:15And there was this
- 23:15discussion as to like the
- 23:17alignment of things.
- 23:18And, and I'm actually to the point and,
- 23:22and I'm probably going to
- 23:24be on the opposite side of
- 23:25the fence of you,
- 23:26but we just need to start
- 23:28taking the money.
- 23:29Oh, yeah.
- 23:30I mean,
- 23:31I never had an issue with Monster
- 23:32or whoever.
- 23:33Like, yeah, we need to get money.
- 23:35If you were at the games
- 23:36when Monster was sponsoring,
- 23:38all that was supplied was water.
- 23:40Right.
- 23:41It was Monster water.
- 23:42Yep.
- 23:44And everybody lost their
- 23:45damn minds over it.
- 23:47It was water.
- 23:47Mm-hmm.
- 23:51And I don't like,
- 23:52it's like they were saying on death by,
- 23:54I think both Justin and Jason CF media,
- 23:58like McDonald's and Coke
- 24:00sponsor the Olympics.
- 24:02Yep.
- 24:03Right.
- 24:03You need money to fund this event.
- 24:08This isn't the methodology.
- 24:10This is money to put on an
- 24:13event at the highest level
- 24:17at the highest quality.
- 24:19Right.
- 24:21And whoever's willing to put
- 24:22their name on that,
- 24:24it doesn't mean you have to
- 24:25like go nuts and saying
- 24:31that I eat a Big Mac before
- 24:33I go out on the floor,
- 24:36but it still could be,
- 24:37and I know McDonald's is the extreme,
- 24:39right?
- 24:40Right.
- 24:41The extreme,
- 24:42but I'm just using it as an example.
- 24:44Like it's not all bad to take the money.
- 24:51It doesn't mean you're in
- 24:52bed with them for a long period of time.
- 24:54It means that, and it's like,
- 24:56I think on there they said
- 25:01that they could sponsor drug testing.
- 25:05Like drug testing sponsored by,
- 25:08that way we could do a more
- 25:09robust drug testing.
- 25:11Mm-hmm.
- 25:14And it's not really
- 25:16addressing the competition itself.
- 25:18Mm-hmm.
- 25:19But I don't even care if it does.
- 25:22When they had Dodge there
- 25:25and their Dodge Ram
- 25:26experience and all of that stuff, Peter,
- 25:32you know.
- 25:34You're hitting me in the fields.
- 25:36Everyone has a price for the
- 25:37million-dollar man, Ted DiBiase.
- 25:40If you're not a wrestling fan,
- 25:42Ted DiBiase was a million-dollar man.
- 25:45He was a big-time heel in wrestling.
- 25:48And actually,
- 25:48there's a great documentary
- 25:49on his life if you've never seen it.
- 25:50It's awesome.
- 25:53um I'm gonna I don't know
- 25:56what holly's saying here
- 25:56it's too long for me to
- 25:57read I think it was jason
- 25:59who brought up privacy and
- 26:00safety and asking everyone
- 26:01to download it but also a
- 26:03new app responsible for
- 26:04communication and for such
- 26:06a big event maybe it should
- 26:07be tested so yeah for
- 26:10semi-finals they're talking
- 26:11about using it as their
- 26:12communication vehicle for
- 26:14volunteers uh communication
- 26:16for um athletes all that kind of stuff so
- 26:25I guess I don't quite know
- 26:26what it is then.
- 26:27I guess I thought it was a sugar wad,
- 26:29like a logging app.
- 26:30I think it's all that.
- 26:32But it has more bells and
- 26:34whistles than anything we've seen before.
- 26:36Okay.
- 26:39I think you can use it for event planning,
- 26:41event stuff, as well as your everyday.
- 26:46So the question was,
- 26:47they offer affiliate programming.
- 26:49Is it a conflict of interest?
- 26:50Because CrossFit has CAP.
- 26:53Yeah.
- 26:54Well,
- 26:54everybody offers affiliate
- 26:55programming now.
- 26:57And CAP is just included in
- 26:59your affiliate fee now.
- 27:00So it's not like an extra thing.
- 27:04And if you as an
- 27:05affiliate... I think Jason
- 27:08brought this up.
- 27:09You as an affiliate have the
- 27:10choice of what programming
- 27:11you want to use.
- 27:12You don't have to use a CAP.
- 27:14You can go do whatever.
- 27:15That's why it's an affiliate
- 27:16and not a franchise.
- 27:17Yeah.
- 27:19So...
- 27:22I think that we need to do
- 27:24more of these events.
- 27:25And I'm going to say it one more time.
- 27:27A year ago, I said,
- 27:29pick events that people are strong at,
- 27:31highlight them, make a championship belt.
- 27:35Colton holds the burpee belt.
- 27:37If people want to take them on, they can.
- 27:39And let them try to win the belt.
- 27:44You saw with Rebecca Fusile
- 27:45when they bought her a belt
- 27:46for winning 24.3, how cool that was.
- 27:50Just picture Colton walking
- 27:52around with his belt or he
- 27:54comes on a podcast,
- 27:55slings a belt over his
- 27:56shoulder just to let people
- 27:58know he's the burpee champ.
- 28:02You know,
- 28:02I was thinking like you get
- 28:04Kelsey Keel and Hannah Black doing Isabel,
- 28:09right?
- 28:11Who's the Isabel champ?
- 28:14Yeah, that'd be cool.
- 28:15Two people that aren't like your top five.
- 28:18Get some exposure.
- 28:20Get some proof of concept.
- 28:24Yeah.
- 28:24I think it'd be awesome.
- 28:26Yeah.
- 28:27Nice,
- 28:28like short five minutes or less
- 28:30workouts that people can quickly watch.
- 28:35Yeah.
- 28:36And you're only limited by
- 28:38the creativity of people
- 28:40who can come up with
- 28:42a task that is for time or whatever,
- 28:48right?
- 28:49Yeah.
- 28:52And then it's up to the
- 28:53athletes whether they want
- 28:54to do it or not.
- 28:55Right.
- 28:55And you'll find out real
- 28:56quick if you pick something
- 28:57that nobody wants to do,
- 28:59that probably was a bad decision.
- 29:04Kind of like Rogue Record Breaker,
- 29:06very much like Rogue.
- 29:08But this would be something
- 29:10that we could do just like
- 29:13have a camera on each person, televise it,
- 29:18stream it, let people get to know.
- 29:20And the coolest part of that
- 29:22is if you want to show
- 29:23friends something like
- 29:25Colton flying through these burpees,
- 29:27it doesn't take two hours
- 29:29for them to sit through to figure it out.
- 29:32It was three minutes and 19 seconds.
- 29:42So it just needs to be
- 29:46highlighted like it was this week.
- 29:49Yeah.
- 29:50And then you get some
- 29:51sponsorship dollars thrown at it.
- 29:52Then you get viewers thrown
- 29:55at it and it just starts growing.
- 29:56And it's an easy way for
- 29:57people outside the box to
- 30:00come in and just view what's going on.
- 30:04If you're willing to sit and
- 30:05watch a hundred people run on air runners,
- 30:08like someone might come in
- 30:10to watch two people do some burpees.
- 30:13Yep.
- 30:14Who never did that before?
- 30:18Just saying.
- 30:22Yeah, Peter, I'm,
- 30:23I'm not saying this is something new,
- 30:25but the,
- 30:26the streaming of it is new and
- 30:29the highlighting of like
- 30:31just two athletes,
- 30:33one-on-one head to head.
- 30:35Let's see what happens.
- 30:39There's a long off season.
- 30:41It's a,
- 30:41and if you do something less than
- 30:43five minutes, you're not, um,
- 30:46taking away from their training week.
- 30:49Right.
- 30:52So I think I've, um,
- 30:56beat that horse to death now.
- 30:58It'll probably come up again
- 30:59next week though.
- 31:02Um, so then team quarterfinals happened.
- 31:08Yeah.
- 31:10So, big news is Peak 360 wins going away.
- 31:15Ran away with it, yeah.
- 31:17They took, what, two firsts, a second,
- 31:19and a third?
- 31:20Yeah.
- 31:21Yeah.
- 31:26Yeah, crushed it.
- 31:31Any surprises for you?
- 31:35Um...
- 31:38no I mean gosh I wish more
- 31:40people more I wish there
- 31:42was more like coverage of
- 31:44it like that's why we're
- 31:47here I even like like noah
- 31:51put out the smash up video
- 31:54but like you don't get to
- 31:55see a whole lot um I feel
- 31:59like when rich was
- 32:00competing that like monday
- 32:02after each workout would
- 32:04get posted you could watch
- 32:05their whole workout and I love that like
- 32:08I want to see what sets Noah
- 32:11and Matilda did and... Well, actually, no,
- 32:16they were the other... Noah was with Lena,
- 32:18right?
- 32:18See,
- 32:20I don't even know because I didn't see.
- 32:23I watched his little mashup.
- 32:24They showed... But you get to see, like,
- 32:26two muscle-ups from Noah
- 32:28and a couple squats and, you know,
- 32:30you don't... You have no
- 32:31idea exactly what they did
- 32:33or how they broke it up.
- 32:33So, yeah, I...
- 32:38And I can't think, I'm trying to think if,
- 32:40I mean, I saw a post from Chandler.
- 32:42I don't know.
- 32:43I saw like a little mashup
- 32:45from BAW media for Invictus in general,
- 32:50but yeah, no,
- 32:52I would like to see more
- 32:54coverage of Cara and Khan and them.
- 32:58Like I saw their little
- 33:01mashup and you could see
- 33:02like them falling apart on
- 33:03their muscle ups at the end.
- 33:06Um, so yeah, I just would,
- 33:08I'd like to see the workouts.
- 33:10I'd like to see, see them release the full,
- 33:13some of these big teams,
- 33:14like these top 10 teams in
- 33:16the world put out their videos.
- 33:18Um, that, I don't know,
- 33:20but I do think I'm weird in that,
- 33:21that I'll sit and watch all
- 33:23these teams do one workout.
- 33:25I don't know how much,
- 33:26how many other people would do all that.
- 33:28Um, but again,
- 33:30I think if spin does the
- 33:32thing where he puts like side-by-sides up,
- 33:34like I watch that.
- 33:36Heck yeah.
- 33:37But my biggest
- 33:38disappointment you just mentioned,
- 33:40and that is the Mayhem
- 33:42Australian team with Cara, Emily, Colin,
- 33:47and James.
- 33:51They did well enough, right?
- 33:53They took second in Oceana,
- 33:55but they weren't even in
- 33:55the top 50 worldwide.
- 33:57No.
- 33:59And this is your first time on a team.
- 34:02This you're kind of like
- 34:04trying to get a ballpark of
- 34:05where you're at.
- 34:05Right.
- 34:06And it was not a good
- 34:08ballpark for them coming
- 34:11out of the gate with the
- 34:12names they have on that team.
- 34:14Yeah.
- 34:15Well, I mean,
- 34:17I think it was cons post said
- 34:19that he like,
- 34:23he's seen James get really
- 34:25fit in like four weeks and
- 34:27he's excited to, uh,
- 34:30follow like he's never like
- 34:31trained with him.
- 34:33So he's excited.
- 34:34So I don't know.
- 34:35We'll see what happens.
- 34:36Come semis.
- 34:36Have,
- 34:37have they put together some more
- 34:38fitness or, or not?
- 34:42I've also seen cons back
- 34:44explode and go out on him
- 34:48in a matter of a blink of an eye.
- 34:50So like, which way is this thing going?
- 34:53Yeah, this was a pretty back.
- 34:55I,
- 34:55that's the one thing I heard from all
- 34:57the teams, like in their videos is,
- 34:59Back's pretty tender, pretty tight.
- 35:02So this was, I mean,
- 35:04there was a lot of hinging pulling,
- 35:05so I'm not,
- 35:05I'm not really surprised and
- 35:07they made it out.
- 35:08So yeah, I don't know.
- 35:11It just,
- 35:12it's hard to get behind some of
- 35:13these teams without like
- 35:15seeing some of their,
- 35:17seeing more of their
- 35:18workouts and how they move
- 35:20and who you want to cheer for.
- 35:23So amazing, amazing, amazing stats guru.
- 35:27Holly was at it again.
- 35:29And she put together
- 35:30evidence to prove your point, Jamie.
- 35:35That these teams that are moving on,
- 35:41they're getting scores from
- 35:42people that may or may not
- 35:48be on the roster, right?
- 35:49Yeah.
- 35:52So green indicates...
- 35:57that they scored for the team,
- 35:59but they're not on the roster.
- 36:03Blue means they're on the roster,
- 36:05but didn't score for the team.
- 36:09And white means that they
- 36:10scored and are on the team.
- 36:12But this includes alternates as well.
- 36:17So like Maria Vargas, uh,
- 36:21did not score for the team,
- 36:22but she's an alternate on their team.
- 36:25Heinrich Nagard, uh,
- 36:27scored for the team and is
- 36:29an alternate for the team.
- 36:33So on these, you know,
- 36:36like this one makes sense.
- 36:37The Invictus.
- 36:38Yeah.
- 36:39Like their roster did what,
- 36:42but you get into some of these.
- 36:46Like ocean state CrossFit
- 36:49Brittany hair scored for the team,
- 36:50not on the roster,
- 36:51the two below on the roster,
- 36:53but didn't score on a single event.
- 37:01Invictus team.
- 37:02They just know who their people are.
- 37:04Yeah.
- 37:06And they really do it the
- 37:07legit kind of way.
- 37:09Right.
- 37:09Like, like Rhino,
- 37:11like they put the six on
- 37:12their roster and that's it.
- 37:13And they move on.
- 37:13Like,
- 37:15Um,
- 37:16mayhem two people scored for them that
- 37:19are not on the roster and
- 37:21they don't even have alternates.
- 37:26I don't know why they don't
- 37:27just make those two people alternates.
- 37:29Yeah.
- 37:29I mean, they probably kind of are,
- 37:30but I think they know they
- 37:31want to go individual,
- 37:32but this is a great example
- 37:34of what you point out.
- 37:36CrossFit is our roots train
- 37:38called in Europe.
- 37:41Three members scored for the team,
- 37:43not on the roster.
- 37:46Two people on the roster
- 37:49didn't score a point,
- 37:51and they're moving on.
- 37:55Right?
- 37:57How do you know that they're
- 37:58even a legit team when
- 38:01three people scored for
- 38:02them that aren't even on
- 38:03their roster now?
- 38:05Right.
- 38:08Well,
- 38:08that's where I said I feel like the
- 38:11programming kind of needed
- 38:12to be repetitive from the open.
- 38:15Right.
- 38:16And you also said like,
- 38:17we don't get the right
- 38:18people to the next stage
- 38:19because they're getting
- 38:21scores from people that
- 38:22aren't even going to compete with them.
- 38:24Right.
- 38:25Yeah.
- 38:27So both ways, I think you're right.
- 38:29Yeah.
- 38:31Thanks.
- 38:31Do you hear me say that both ways?
- 38:33I think you're right, Jamie.
- 38:38And thank you, Holly.
- 38:39That was a really cool chart
- 38:41and really easy to read.
- 38:43Check her out, datawad on Instagram,
- 38:46putting out all the coolest stats.
- 38:50So some other stuff going on
- 38:53in teams is that a handful
- 38:56got disqualified.
- 38:57I did see some of that.
- 39:00And it actually came out on spin today.
- 39:02I actually had a whole bunch
- 39:04of stuff in my notes
- 39:05because one team posted,
- 39:06they got disqualified,
- 39:08but then spin came out with
- 39:09a list of four.
- 39:10I think it was.
- 39:11So I'm going to share that real quick.
- 39:15Um,
- 39:18so here it is a list of four
- 39:21teams this was the team I
- 39:22saw on instagram this
- 39:23morning uh the all grit
- 39:26house yeah that one I don't
- 39:30I don't love the re the I
- 39:33don't love their
- 39:33disqualification on that
- 39:35one we're gonna talk about
- 39:36that and it's the same for
- 39:39everybody who has contacted
- 39:41the spin about this and that's so um
- 39:45The four that have been
- 39:46disqualified were CrossFit CLT,
- 39:48the Gridhouse, CrossFit ADM, Chambly,
- 39:53CrossFit Kilo 2, and CrossFit Salvation.
- 39:57And there's possibly more.
- 39:58Yep.
- 39:59That's what he has so far.
- 40:01The way it looks when you go
- 40:03to the leaderboard,
- 40:03I'm going to show that real quick, is...
- 40:11You don't,
- 40:12you don't see any scores for
- 40:13there and you're going to get privy.
- 40:16So it's like this.
- 40:19Oh no.
- 40:21They just,
- 40:22they blanked out all their scores.
- 40:29So when you go to the leaderboard,
- 40:30that is what you see.
- 40:34Then Kielo 2 was disqualified,
- 40:38which perked my ears big
- 40:39time because Colton
- 40:42Merton's better half is a
- 40:43member of that team.
- 40:45Right.
- 40:45And I wanted to, whoops,
- 40:47I went to the wrong.
- 40:49And I wanted to verify that was,
- 40:51because sometimes they put
- 40:51more than one team in.
- 40:54But no, it is this roster.
- 40:59And there she is.
- 41:02And theirs was the same reasoning.
- 41:05They did not respond to spin
- 41:07with a reason.
- 41:08Oh, okay.
- 41:11Uh,
- 41:11but the two people that did said that
- 41:14due to personal reasons,
- 41:15one of the members had to
- 41:16go out of town for the week.
- 41:17So they did their open
- 41:18workout in another affiliate.
- 41:22And the rules book states that for teams,
- 41:25you must do all your
- 41:26workouts in the affiliate together.
- 41:30One of them, the AMD team,
- 41:34the person that had to
- 41:34leave was the owner of the affiliate.
- 41:38Attached to the affiliate for sure,
- 41:41but because of a personal tragedy,
- 41:44had to leave, deal with that,
- 41:46do the open workout in another city.
- 41:49And then come back and did
- 41:50the other two workouts with the team yet.
- 41:54You don't even have to count their scores.
- 41:56Right.
- 41:57At that point.
- 41:58Like it makes no sense.
- 42:01Well,
- 42:01and the great house guy did the workout,
- 42:05but then redid it like
- 42:07Sunday at the fire house or wherever.
- 42:10And it doesn't say,
- 42:13it does not say in the rule
- 42:14book that you can't,
- 42:17that your submission score
- 42:19has to be from the affiliate.
- 42:22It does not say that.
- 42:23So I really do not agree with the ruling.
- 42:27Yeah, it seems really hard.
- 42:32He did the workout in the affiliate.
- 42:34And they were like, here,
- 42:34we'll give you this video
- 42:36and take the 14 seconds slower time.
- 42:38It wouldn't matter.
- 42:39They would still got in.
- 42:41I don't know why they just
- 42:41didn't go with it.
- 42:42If that's how CrossFit wants
- 42:44to play it and he had a video,
- 42:47then just take that score.
- 42:48And if it still gets them in,
- 42:49you got to call it good.
- 42:51Because they didn't specify.
- 42:53He was just working his firehouse job.
- 42:56Yeah.
- 42:56And we did it at the firehouse.
- 42:58We did, yeah.
- 43:04These are the reasons that
- 43:05people question the
- 43:07fairness of the sport.
- 43:12Because you know doggone well,
- 43:16way more teams this happened to.
- 43:20For sure.
- 43:21Way more than these four.
- 43:29Because everybody thinks
- 43:29they're meeting the criteria.
- 43:31Yeah.
- 43:35Right?
- 43:36Yep.
- 43:39I just find that really, really shitty.
- 43:43Mm-hmm.
- 43:45So, yeah.
- 43:48So that puts a real damper
- 43:49at the end of a quarterfinals for teams,
- 43:53in my opinion.
- 43:56Now,
- 43:56this is going to be the news that's
- 43:58lingering for teams until
- 44:00we get to semis.
- 44:01Mm-hmm.
- 44:05But, well...
- 44:06Andrew,
- 44:07the rule is that you need to
- 44:09perform the workout in the
- 44:13affiliate does not say that
- 44:16your score submission has
- 44:18to be the workout that you
- 44:21did in the affiliate.
- 44:22Right.
- 44:23For grid house, the,
- 44:24the gentleman did the
- 44:25workout in the affiliate with the team.
- 44:28Yes.
- 44:29He then went on shift for the firehouse,
- 44:31redid the workout at the firehouse.
- 44:34That time was faster,
- 44:35so they submitted that time.
- 44:40Just like anyone would do
- 44:41for their open score if
- 44:42they weren't on a team.
- 44:44Right.
- 44:44They have video of him doing
- 44:47the workout with the team.
- 44:51That's where I think.
- 44:53Change that rule.
- 44:59I don't know.
- 45:00And they offered, Ingrid House offered,
- 45:03just take the video of him
- 45:04doing it with us.
- 45:05Exactly.
- 45:06It's 14 seconds difference.
- 45:08Exactly.
- 45:11And there's no way to appeal
- 45:13this decision.
- 45:14I don't understand that.
- 45:16I don't know how they're saying...
- 45:19no to that.
- 45:20Like he,
- 45:20they met every requirement and gave the,
- 45:23they asked, so they,
- 45:24they asked for something, right.
- 45:26But I don't know how they did that.
- 45:27And they replay applied.
- 45:29Here you go.
- 45:31Here's me meeting your
- 45:32standards and they're just
- 45:33not accepting it.
- 45:34That makes no sense.
- 45:38Yeah.
- 45:41All right.
- 45:43How much time do we have?
- 45:44Okay.
- 45:45We're still good.
- 45:47All right.
- 45:48So I brought this up on the round table.
- 45:51Matt was on Be Friendly Fitness.
- 45:54Yeah.
- 45:54And in that conversation,
- 45:56made the claim that
- 46:00CrossFit was trying to F
- 46:01him over by changing the
- 46:03programming to try to
- 46:05prevent him from winning the games.
- 46:07Bold statement.
- 46:12One, my first question is, why now?
- 46:17You've been retired for four years.
- 46:19You were undefeated from 2016 to 2020.
- 46:26Five, five championships.
- 46:32And Carolyn is back.
- 46:33Welcome.
- 46:34Come back, come back.
- 46:38And so why bring up now that
- 46:40you think that CrossFit was
- 46:42unfairly changing the
- 46:43programming to try to stop
- 46:45you when they never did
- 46:47stop you and it's four
- 46:48years after you've retired?
- 46:53That's a good question.
- 46:54Did he just recently receive
- 46:56information from somebody?
- 47:03If he did,
- 47:03then isn't that just a badge of pride?
- 47:09It doesn't mean he wouldn't
- 47:10want to call him out on it.
- 47:11I mean,
- 47:14maybe he's trying to make a point
- 47:16that CrossFit does shady
- 47:18shit and he's learning more things that,
- 47:21I mean, I don't know.
- 47:22I'm not really siding with the guy.
- 47:23I think sometimes some of
- 47:25the stuff he says is I, he, he's just,
- 47:30he's not rich.
- 47:31He doesn't seem to promote
- 47:33the community and brand, um,
- 47:39So some of the stuff he says
- 47:40is hard to get behind.
- 47:44So that leads me to part two
- 47:45of the question,
- 47:47which is Dave came on to week in review,
- 47:51talked about the claim and said,
- 47:52if he's going to say those things,
- 47:55it's up to him to prove it.
- 47:58And while I agree in like these,
- 48:00an outlandish claim, it kind of is.
- 48:03But I contend that it's up
- 48:05to the sport to prove that
- 48:08they are fair and equitable
- 48:10in everything they do so
- 48:12that the fan base can trust
- 48:15that they're seeing a legit competition.
- 48:16The NFL has to do that.
- 48:20Tennis has to do that.
- 48:22Jeopardy has to do that.
- 48:24Any kind of competition,
- 48:26you have to prove that it's
- 48:27a fair competition or
- 48:29people will stop watching.
- 48:31Andrew and I got into a
- 48:33battle in the comments of
- 48:35the round table on Tuesday.
- 48:39And he said that CrossFit
- 48:41can't respond to every
- 48:42outlandish comment.
- 48:43And I do agree with that.
- 48:45I do agree with that, but they still,
- 48:49there is some question for
- 48:52people with CrossFit because of
- 48:54Well, Brooke showed she has the capacity.
- 48:58Capacity, correct.
- 49:00Skipping over Matt for Jason
- 49:02for the invitational.
- 49:04There's all these little
- 49:05things that have happened
- 49:06in the last 10 years that
- 49:08lead people to believe that
- 49:10it's not fair and equitable.
- 49:14This incident with Grit House.
- 49:17They shoot themselves in the
- 49:18foot constantly that you're questioning.
- 49:21I could totally see them
- 49:25I mean, on one huge hand,
- 49:27Matt's claim is completely believable.
- 49:32Yeah.
- 49:33It just comes off as,
- 49:34I don't even know what it could,
- 49:36it just comes off weird
- 49:38because you never were
- 49:40stopped and it's been a long time.
- 49:44Yeah.
- 49:53So Andrew and I continue,
- 49:56the people who claim a
- 49:57sport is not fair will
- 49:58never be satisfied no
- 49:59matter what evidence they're shown.
- 50:03I disagree with that, Andrew, because yes,
- 50:06Matt will never be
- 50:07satisfied if that's what he
- 50:09truly believes.
- 50:10Because there's no empirical
- 50:12evidence that's going to
- 50:14come out that says that
- 50:16programming wasn't changed.
- 50:20So what part of the program
- 50:22was he referring to?
- 50:23Because I saw the weekend review,
- 50:25but I don't know what,
- 50:26I haven't seen the side of Matt's thing.
- 50:30It was just,
- 50:31and he's made the statement before.
- 50:33Yeah.
- 50:35Right.
- 50:35It just has been highlighted again.
- 50:37And he didn't give specifics
- 50:41as to what in the
- 50:42programming was changed.
- 50:43So is he just basically
- 50:45claiming that they would
- 50:47try to find ways to have him not win?
- 50:52Correct.
- 50:53Yeah.
- 50:53And I don't even know if it
- 50:55was so much the programming,
- 50:56maybe a little bit,
- 50:57but I feel like the
- 50:58initiation of it was more
- 50:59like every year scoring,
- 51:03scoring table would change
- 51:04or something would change.
- 51:06Probably in a way to try to
- 51:08like make him not win.
- 51:09I feel like was more of it
- 51:10more so than a specific
- 51:12event programming wise.
- 51:14I feel like it was like
- 51:15changing point systems and
- 51:17stuff like that.
- 51:19The whole season would change.
- 51:21Like we had to switch
- 51:22scoring system when you
- 51:22have 170 athletes and then
- 51:25all of a sudden you have 10 at the,
- 51:26at the end of the Sunday.
- 51:29Right.
- 51:29So like that's hard change
- 51:31from the year that Noah almost beat him.
- 51:34I think that's the year he's referring,
- 51:38if I were guessing.
- 51:39But that was such a unique
- 51:41year that I feel like they
- 51:43couldn't have predicted the
- 51:44fact that Matt could have
- 51:47basically won all the last
- 51:48workouts and it wouldn't
- 51:49have been enough because of
- 51:50the way the scoring was.
- 51:52They couldn't have predicted that.
- 51:55But I could take the
- 51:59circumstantial evidence of that because
- 52:02there were two scores on the
- 52:03one event on the final day.
- 52:06And that could have changed
- 52:07because we didn't know what
- 52:07that was till Sunday that
- 52:11they wanted Matt to win
- 52:14because they made that a
- 52:15two scored event.
- 52:16It gave Matt a better shot at winning.
- 52:19Right.
- 52:19Yeah.
- 52:20I don't think he would have
- 52:21had enough points to come back.
- 52:22Had that not been basically
- 52:23more to two scored events.
- 52:26Yeah.
- 52:27So I could argue in the
- 52:28other direction that they
- 52:30changed the programming to let him win.
- 52:35Matt was going to win either way.
- 52:38He was so dominant.
- 52:40Yeah.
- 52:43So, but I guess my overall argument is it,
- 52:47you don't have to answer to every claim,
- 52:49right?
- 52:50This isn't a onesie twosie kind of thing,
- 52:52but the fans should have,
- 52:55if you want to be a pro
- 52:55sport and be taken seriously,
- 52:58fans have to believe that
- 53:00it's a fair competition.
- 53:01Yeah.
- 53:02Yeah.
- 53:03And what CrossFit clubs have
- 53:04going on right now that
- 53:05other sports do is betting.
- 53:07Like,
- 53:08if you don't make it a fair shot in
- 53:10basketball or football, it affects Vegas.
- 53:13And Vegas is not going to
- 53:15allow that to happen unless
- 53:17it's in their favor.
- 53:19Yeah.
- 53:23So, I don't know.
- 53:26That's just my two cents.
- 53:29Yeah.
- 53:30Yeah.
- 53:31I'd be,
- 53:31I just would be curious where he's
- 53:32getting these facts from,
- 53:35but I'm sure he won't come out with that.
- 53:38Yeah.
- 53:40It was, if you, the interview was,
- 53:42if you haven't watched it
- 53:45was really confusing to me.
- 53:48Um,
- 53:50and I really think O'Keefe needs to be
- 53:52the spokesperson for HWPO.
- 53:53Yeah.
- 53:56Yeah.
- 53:59I actually think Jake
- 54:00Marconi usually does a pretty good job.
- 54:04Agreed.
- 54:05Agreed.
- 54:08I think Matt is there for name.
- 54:12Yeah.
- 54:15Does Matt do any of the programming?
- 54:19If you watch this video,
- 54:21you will not believe he does.
- 54:23Yeah.
- 54:24That's one of the
- 54:25impressions that I have is that
- 54:27I feel as though he's not
- 54:29doing any of the programming, right?
- 54:31And most people would hop
- 54:32onto HWPO thinking this was
- 54:34the recipe to his success.
- 54:38Well, and they've,
- 54:39they've branched out in so
- 54:40many different directions.
- 54:41Like I can't blame him for
- 54:44not being involved,
- 54:46but don't go on a podcast, not prepared.
- 54:49Like when they ask you who
- 54:50Brooks coaches and
- 54:53Brookwell is one of the
- 54:53biggest names in the sport
- 54:54and you can't name her coach.
- 54:56Yeah.
- 54:59Like you should be able to
- 55:00at least do that.
- 55:02I feel like when he's
- 55:03invested in something,
- 55:04like whatever he's invested
- 55:05in is a hundred percent and
- 55:07he's not worried about anything else.
- 55:08And I think that's what made
- 55:09him so successful is when he's, you know,
- 55:13into something that he's all in.
- 55:15So he's not even focused on
- 55:16anything else that's
- 55:17getting run with the company.
- 55:18Who's coaching who,
- 55:19if he's coaching this and that athlete,
- 55:21everything's on those athletes.
- 55:23You could almost sense that
- 55:24last year with Katrin, right?
- 55:26When he was coaching her, like he was,
- 55:28you could tell like that was his athlete,
- 55:30right?
- 55:30Like once Mal kind of went to the side,
- 55:32it was,
- 55:33he was trying to get Katrin to the
- 55:34best that she could.
- 55:35And he was there for her
- 55:37every event and whatever she needed.
- 55:38And I feel like that's his personality.
- 55:41So maybe the programming
- 55:42that he's doing is, um,
- 55:44on the direct athletes that
- 55:45he has access to and
- 55:47everything else that's not on his plate.
- 55:49And that's not his focus.
- 55:54I think that's a great point.
- 55:55Yep.
- 55:56But as a business person,
- 55:58don't let them go on
- 55:59podcasts then to talk about
- 56:01the whole company.
- 56:02Yeah.
- 56:05You know that if you're
- 56:06running your business, you need to.
- 56:08Yeah.
- 56:08Yeah.
- 56:12Kenneth says,
- 56:13surprised they haven't had a
- 56:14High Rocks track featuring
- 56:16Mal O'Brien yet.
- 56:19Yeah.
- 56:20It's coming.
- 56:21Yeah.
- 56:24So next thing on the agenda
- 56:25is Stacey Marino,
- 56:27because we want to give Masters our love.
- 56:31Stacey Marino made an
- 56:32announcement today that due
- 56:33to health concerns,
- 56:34she's having to withdraw
- 56:35from the 2024 game season.
- 56:41while she did not go into
- 56:42details about that what
- 56:43that is she did say it's
- 56:44going to be a long road
- 56:45back she knew this was
- 56:47happening back in november
- 56:50and tried to push through
- 56:52it thinking her body was
- 56:53strong enough to be able to
- 56:55and it just didn't and we
- 57:00we hung out with her at
- 57:01legends um she was at crash
- 57:04crucible with you jamie uh
- 57:08you competed against her there
- 57:10uh high level masters
- 57:12athlete um really sad to
- 57:14see her not be able to
- 57:16compete but we hope and
- 57:17pray that she gets a speedy
- 57:19recovery and fully back to
- 57:22health and able to compete
- 57:23again in the near future
- 57:26yeah yep I was super bummed
- 57:28to read that um she
- 57:30definitely didn't look like
- 57:31herself the first two days
- 57:33of legends kind of came
- 57:34back looked much more like
- 57:36herself towards the end but
- 57:38Yeah, she's been seeming to be sick a lot.
- 57:43So I hope she gets this figured out.
- 57:46Girl's a fighter, man.
- 57:47She'll come back stronger than ever.
- 57:51I fully believe that.
- 57:54Is she Canadian or no?
- 57:55I don't think so.
- 57:57No.
- 57:57I hear an Amy Morton mixed up sometimes.
- 58:01Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 58:02That's probably what it is.
- 58:03I want to say she's like in New York area.
- 58:09Yes, I think so.
- 58:10Cause I think a couple of my
- 58:12hockey friends train at her gym.
- 58:15I think it's the New York area.
- 58:17Cause that's where they are.
- 58:18Yeah.
- 58:20And I mean,
- 58:20she had she had a lot on her
- 58:22plate right before Legends.
- 58:26The her building was sold
- 58:29and she had to find a whole new space.
- 58:30She wasn't even going to
- 58:31possibly not even make it to Legends.
- 58:33She just had a whole lot of stress.
- 58:35So they had to move locations,
- 58:37move everything right around December.
- 58:40And I just can't I can't imagine.
- 58:44So that doesn't help.
- 58:47so my next topic is if you
- 58:50didn't see the Angelo
- 58:51meltdown episode of the Froning podcast,
- 58:55well worth the first 15 minutes for sure.
- 59:00Um, and I, what happened,
- 59:03what had happened was, uh,
- 59:05the team was 80% into their
- 59:07workout and someone hit the
- 59:10clock and messed it up.
- 59:14And,
- 59:16Angelo saw it, lost his mind,
- 59:19went full meltdown, lots of beeps,
- 59:23lots of covering up of swear words.
- 59:27Rich did say none of it was
- 59:29directed at the person who hit the clock.
- 59:31It's Angelo being Angelo and
- 59:34just getting it out by walking off,
- 59:38yelling into the air,
- 59:39and just getting it out.
- 59:43But regardless of that,
- 59:45I wanted to ask you as two
- 59:46high-level athletes who
- 59:48have to video your workouts,
- 59:50what would happen if
- 59:51someone unplugged your clock,
- 59:55hit your clock, hit a button,
- 59:58and you were 80% through a
- 1:00:00workout for an online
- 1:00:03quarterfinals or semis at
- 1:00:05the Masters level?
- 1:00:09I don't know.
- 1:00:10I...
- 1:00:11On one hand,
- 1:00:12I know they talked about this
- 1:00:13like they should have maybe
- 1:00:14just finished and figured
- 1:00:15out if they could submit it
- 1:00:16and run a clock next.
- 1:00:19Like, I don't know.
- 1:00:22You'd like to think CrossFit
- 1:00:23could figure some of this
- 1:00:25stuff out and see that the
- 1:00:28clock is running the whole time.
- 1:00:29So if you overlaid another
- 1:00:30clock next to that and it
- 1:00:32just continued on the same,
- 1:00:33it shouldn't matter.
- 1:00:34But I guess you're editing the video.
- 1:00:36I don't know.
- 1:00:38I would probably want to
- 1:00:38like finish the workout and
- 1:00:40try submitting what I have.
- 1:00:42And then maybe doing it as
- 1:00:45having a second attempt as
- 1:00:47a backup if they deny it.
- 1:00:49But yeah, that's frustrating.
- 1:00:52Clock stuff is so frustrating.
- 1:00:53Me, it happened in 2020, 20.1,
- 1:00:59but it was camera that
- 1:01:02turned off or got full or whatever.
- 1:01:05And,
- 1:01:06but I had just finished and then the
- 1:01:07camera, um, turned off, but I've had it,
- 1:01:10I've had it happen where
- 1:01:11someone like walks in front
- 1:01:12of a camera or like press the button,
- 1:01:15it stops.
- 1:01:16Like it could have been like
- 1:01:17a rogue challenge or whatever.
- 1:01:18And it's, it's frustrating for sure.
- 1:01:21And then it's like,
- 1:01:21especially if that was like
- 1:01:22your all out effort,
- 1:01:23like it's hard to repeat
- 1:01:25that exact effort.
- 1:01:26Cause if you were hoping
- 1:01:27that was like a one and done, um,
- 1:01:31Yeah, it's frustrating.
- 1:01:32So now I put cones
- 1:01:34everywhere when I'm about
- 1:01:35to go just to be like,
- 1:01:38don't go in this area in
- 1:01:40front of this camera.
- 1:01:42So you try to predict some stuff,
- 1:01:44but it's so hard at those
- 1:01:45training camps like Mayhem
- 1:01:46and stuff because they have
- 1:01:47so many videographers and photographers.
- 1:01:50Every time I look at their stuff, I'm like,
- 1:01:52those people walking around
- 1:01:53have to be blocking certain reps.
- 1:01:59I would not want
- 1:02:01during a qualifying workout,
- 1:02:02a photographer or like a
- 1:02:05media person just walking
- 1:02:06around doing circles.
- 1:02:07That's me because I just would,
- 1:02:09I would be scared of like,
- 1:02:11they just get into the
- 1:02:12frame of that angle of the video.
- 1:02:14And, but I mean,
- 1:02:15maybe they're used to it
- 1:02:16and they have different
- 1:02:17angles of their camera, but tough.
- 1:02:21I mean, that can just happen.
- 1:02:22It's just unfortunate.
- 1:02:24Yeah.
- 1:02:25I,
- 1:02:26I'm shocked that they don't use cameras.
- 1:02:29wad proof or weed proof I
- 1:02:31don't use wad proof very
- 1:02:32often I don't use wad proof
- 1:02:33I use weed time but I'm I
- 1:02:36don't know like I i will
- 1:02:39like whatever I'm filming
- 1:02:40has the clock in it like I
- 1:02:42don't I don't want to mess
- 1:02:43with that see I like
- 1:02:46looking at the clock when
- 1:02:47I'm doing it so I don't use
- 1:02:48wad proof but if I do use
- 1:02:51wad proof for like a random
- 1:02:52thingy I'll make sure to
- 1:02:53have another clock that I
- 1:02:55can see so that it's
- 1:02:57so that you can have it as
- 1:02:58well but um kenneth said
- 1:03:01poor ben davidson it was
- 1:03:02not ben davidson ben is the
- 1:03:04one that actually caught
- 1:03:05captured the footage of
- 1:03:06angela's meltdown angelo's
- 1:03:09meltdown um I have to say
- 1:03:12like I am not an athlete at
- 1:03:14your level I would lose my
- 1:03:16damn mind I would be angelo
- 1:03:18walking off swearing into
- 1:03:21the air you'd have to bleep
- 1:03:22everything I said
- 1:03:25And it would not be at anybody.
- 1:03:26It would just be frustration
- 1:03:28in the moment.
- 1:03:29Got to get it out.
- 1:03:31And then I just come back
- 1:03:32and I would realign up and go again.
- 1:03:35Probably an hour or two later, but yeah,
- 1:03:38it would depend on how late they had,
- 1:03:41you know, if the,
- 1:03:41if that was like Thursday
- 1:03:42and they saw it till Saturday night, um,
- 1:03:45it's not as bad, but if,
- 1:03:47if let's say they had
- 1:03:48already done it once and
- 1:03:50that was their second time
- 1:03:51because they messed up
- 1:03:52something the first time or
- 1:03:53they weren't happy,
- 1:03:54that's more frustrating,
- 1:03:55but I'm assuming that was
- 1:03:56their first attempt.
- 1:03:58Um, and they probably had some time,
- 1:04:00but I mean, yeah, I, I, I mean,
- 1:04:02I get Angela just, just swearing,
- 1:04:05not necessarily at the person,
- 1:04:06but just letting that out.
- 1:04:08I think that's completely natural.
- 1:04:11Yeah, for sure.
- 1:04:14I was an angry young man.
- 1:04:19I've done better in my older age, but yeah,
- 1:04:23this body only has so many sprints in it.
- 1:04:25Like don't waste one of my sprints.
- 1:04:30I agree with Peter's comment
- 1:04:32here about the screen size.
- 1:04:35That's one of the reasons I
- 1:04:36don't use wad proof.
- 1:04:38I find it's too zoomed in.
- 1:04:40It's like, I never use the video feature.
- 1:04:41I always press on photo and
- 1:04:44then slide it because it's,
- 1:04:45it's a little bit,
- 1:04:47more zoomed out I guess than
- 1:04:49when you do video on your
- 1:04:51iphone um I never use the
- 1:04:54video one I just photo
- 1:04:56because I it's too zoomed
- 1:04:57in and then I I'm so far
- 1:04:58away at that point that to
- 1:05:00try to get everything in
- 1:05:01that I don't like that
- 1:05:02angle I would rather be
- 1:05:05closer so it sounds like
- 1:05:07that sounds like an iphone
- 1:05:08problem when I was uh in in school
- 1:05:12There was this program
- 1:05:13called where there's a will,
- 1:05:14there's an A. And it's
- 1:05:16always that you do whatever
- 1:05:17it is the teacher wants you to do,
- 1:05:19whether you agree with it or not,
- 1:05:21because getting them in
- 1:05:22your good favor when
- 1:05:23they're grading a test is the best.
- 1:05:25So from an official judge,
- 1:05:29having the clock embedded
- 1:05:30is helpful for the video review judge.
- 1:05:34Well,
- 1:05:36I've just always dealt with WeTime or
- 1:05:39Wadproof,
- 1:05:39whatever one they're asking for.
- 1:05:40It puts the timestamp on it.
- 1:05:43It puts the logo of whatever you're doing.
- 1:05:47You can tell it's a legit
- 1:05:49video from the time that it
- 1:05:51was supposed to be submitted in.
- 1:05:54And the clock is in there
- 1:05:55and somebody can't step in front of that.
- 1:05:57Like at least that that's, I mean,
- 1:05:59that'd be my other worry.
- 1:06:00Like somebody may think
- 1:06:02they're do if I had a stand
- 1:06:04stand up clock, like Angelo's,
- 1:06:06what if they just step in front of that?
- 1:06:07And then the clock was out
- 1:06:08of screen for a minute, like two seconds.
- 1:06:11Like, I mean, I don't know.
- 1:06:12I just, if it's on the screen,
- 1:06:14it's on the screen.
- 1:06:16Yeah.
- 1:06:17So I have a little,
- 1:06:18I've actually have a clock
- 1:06:20that is portable.
- 1:06:23And it's really nice.
- 1:06:24So if you're doing if I'm so
- 1:06:26when I was like the head
- 1:06:27judge for our my old gym,
- 1:06:30like I would bring that and
- 1:06:31put it wherever I needed to,
- 1:06:32if someone needed theirs videoed.
- 1:06:34And that way you had a nice
- 1:06:35big red official clock,
- 1:06:38you could move into the
- 1:06:39screen really easily,
- 1:06:41not fixed to the wall or anything.
- 1:06:44The one I bought with Lex,
- 1:06:46we each bought one,
- 1:06:48is that little one that's like magnetic.
- 1:06:50I think it's called from
- 1:06:51Timebirds or something like that.
- 1:06:53That's like one of the best
- 1:06:54investments I've made in the past year.
- 1:06:56Every time the clock's being
- 1:06:58used at the gym and we have
- 1:06:59like two or three clocks,
- 1:07:01I can just put my clock,
- 1:07:02stick it to the post on the rig,
- 1:07:04and then just start going.
- 1:07:06And I've used that in
- 1:07:08qualifier workouts because, like I said,
- 1:07:11the waterproof often zooms in too much.
- 1:07:14but I'll like put it
- 1:07:16somewhere or I'll be using
- 1:07:18the one on the wall,
- 1:07:18but I've like put it on a
- 1:07:19box closer to the camera.
- 1:07:21So it's like literally seen
- 1:07:22the whole time and I'm in
- 1:07:24the background there.
- 1:07:24Um,
- 1:07:26and I might be looking at it at a clock
- 1:07:28if I need,
- 1:07:28if I don't need that one in particular,
- 1:07:30but that's been a nice one.
- 1:07:32The little ones that, um, are magnetized.
- 1:07:36How do you read?
- 1:07:37Dang.
- 1:07:37Did I miss them talking about Colton,
- 1:07:38Jake and Tim and John?
- 1:07:41We talked about all of them
- 1:07:43back at the 10-minute mark.
- 1:07:45I will do 100 burpees for
- 1:07:47time for all this money right now.
- 1:07:49I know.
- 1:07:51We should go head-to-head.
- 1:07:52We should go.
- 1:07:53It would actually be a good battle.
- 1:07:56I think it would be good.
- 1:07:57You would crush it.
- 1:08:00We should do it this weekend.
- 1:08:01No, not this weekend.
- 1:08:03All right.
- 1:08:04Let me know when.
- 1:08:05After quarters.
- 1:08:09Listen, if $1,500 got thrown my way.
- 1:08:13If $1,500 got put on the line, I'd do it.
- 1:08:15I'd do it right now.
- 1:08:16And my back feels broken right now.
- 1:08:18Agreed.
- 1:08:20Do you think either of you
- 1:08:21could beat either Jake or Colton?
- 1:08:24No.
- 1:08:24No.
- 1:08:25I don't think any female is
- 1:08:26beating the pressing capacity of a male.
- 1:08:29An explosive pressing capacity.
- 1:08:32I don't think one of our top
- 1:08:33females beats Colton.
- 1:08:36I really don't.
- 1:08:37I don't think Emma Carey can do it.
- 1:08:39I don't think even the mirror gym,
- 1:08:42whatever girl that's smaller,
- 1:08:44high rocks girl.
- 1:08:46I still don't think you beat
- 1:08:47Colton or a top male
- 1:08:49athlete that has that explosive capacity.
- 1:08:53Burpee power.
- 1:08:55And is short.
- 1:08:57I think someone that could
- 1:08:57give Colton a run for their
- 1:08:59money is like... What's his name?
- 1:09:05He does well with deadlifts
- 1:09:06and burpees normally too.
- 1:09:09Someone like that maybe,
- 1:09:10but... I don't think
- 1:09:15Christy Aramo would be my
- 1:09:17top pick for girl.
- 1:09:18Not for barfares and burpees.
- 1:09:20I think there's better...
- 1:09:21Games out there for bar-facing burpees.
- 1:09:24I think the reason she did
- 1:09:25very well with the burpee
- 1:09:26to the target is she's got
- 1:09:28very strong legs as well, Christy.
- 1:09:30And for that burpee to touch where she won,
- 1:09:33I'm assuming that's why
- 1:09:34we're picking Christy Ermo
- 1:09:35when she won the 100
- 1:09:37burpees to that target.
- 1:09:39She's a great squatter.
- 1:09:41Great squatter,
- 1:09:42great engine and stuff like that.
- 1:09:44But if I'm picking bar-facing burpees...
- 1:09:48I think someone like Krista Holta.
- 1:09:52Emma Carey.
- 1:09:53Emma Carey comes to mind,
- 1:09:55probably the first person.
- 1:09:56Emma McQuaid, Fee.
- 1:09:58Emma McQuaid would be phenomenal.
- 1:10:00Those type of athletes,
- 1:10:02the open type athletes that are smaller,
- 1:10:05lighter, just go, I think.
- 1:10:10I still think Chrissy would do very well,
- 1:10:11but I don't think she'd be
- 1:10:12my number one pick.
- 1:10:14And Chrissy's probably one
- 1:10:15of my favorite athletes.
- 1:10:16athletes in the CrossFit space.
- 1:10:17I'm not dissing her.
- 1:10:18She's literally probably my
- 1:10:19number one favorite.
- 1:10:22And I've told her that too.
- 1:10:26Awesome.
- 1:10:28I don't think so.
- 1:10:28I think Emma Carey would be faster.
- 1:10:31Yeah.
- 1:10:34That burpee over the box
- 1:10:36workout from the Open a
- 1:10:37couple years ago that she
- 1:10:40crushed the world on.
- 1:10:42Emma Carey?
- 1:10:43Yeah.
- 1:10:43Yeah.
- 1:10:45She also had the smallest,
- 1:10:46tiniest little box,
- 1:10:48which makes a huge difference.
- 1:10:51Cause her jumping capacity.
- 1:10:52Oh yeah.
- 1:10:54I think Emma Carey would be
- 1:10:55my number one pick for
- 1:10:56something like this,
- 1:10:58but I think that helps
- 1:11:00quite a bit on the top of the box.
- 1:11:01Cause it was like,
- 1:11:02it was literally like 16 or 15.
- 1:11:04It was,
- 1:11:04it was the minimum that you can have.
- 1:11:05Yeah.
- 1:11:06Um, versus having like a 24.
- 1:11:10inch wide box which I think
- 1:11:12like holta and I did it on
- 1:11:15and we were right behind
- 1:11:16her and I think that makes
- 1:11:18a small difference in
- 1:11:19seconds I still think emma
- 1:11:21wins but that could be a
- 1:11:22little faster uh beef on
- 1:11:27the c channel would do it I
- 1:11:28don't think he has the
- 1:11:28stamina that the other
- 1:11:29athletes have I think he'll
- 1:11:32be quick out of the gate
- 1:11:33and yeah my opinion
- 1:11:39I am down to three minutes.
- 1:11:42So what I'll do is I'll
- 1:11:43start this last question
- 1:11:45and then I may have to duck
- 1:11:46out and then Jamie just hit
- 1:11:47end stream when you guys are done.
- 1:11:49Okay.
- 1:11:49So yesterday or two days ago on Death Pie,
- 1:11:53it was brought up that in
- 1:11:55the tactical games,
- 1:11:56they are doing drug testing
- 1:11:58in a way where someone can anonymously
- 1:12:04list an athlete they think is using,
- 1:12:07and that's how that person
- 1:12:08will get tested.
- 1:12:11So example, Jamie,
- 1:12:13you think that Carolyn is using,
- 1:12:16you anonymously submit her
- 1:12:18name and Carolyn gets tested.
- 1:12:22That's how tactical games is doing it.
- 1:12:27Do you think that would work?
- 1:12:28We already have that.
- 1:12:29Let's see.
- 1:12:32We already can submit to
- 1:12:33CrossFit Games or the CrossFit website.
- 1:12:37They have something if you
- 1:12:39want to put someone there.
- 1:12:40You can already do that.
- 1:12:42They have done follow-ups on
- 1:12:44certain people.
- 1:12:45I don't know if they've
- 1:12:46caught them because they
- 1:12:47often don't test them during the season.
- 1:12:48But there is something, if I remember,
- 1:12:50on the CrossFit Games site
- 1:12:52that you can message.
- 1:12:55I don't know if it was.
- 1:12:57I think the only difference
- 1:12:58is this is directly at the
- 1:12:59national championships.
- 1:13:01Oh.
- 1:13:02But they're going to test.
- 1:13:06And you walk up to Dave and say,
- 1:13:09anonymously, I'm saying,
- 1:13:12Carolyn is using.
- 1:13:16You would think everyone
- 1:13:19would have been tested at
- 1:13:21semis to get to the games.
- 1:13:25That is true.
- 1:13:26So...
- 1:13:30Yeah, that's silly.
- 1:13:31I just feel like people
- 1:13:32would just be throwing anyone around.
- 1:13:35But like I said,
- 1:13:36there is something like that now.
- 1:13:37I'd have to look at where it
- 1:13:38is on the- Well,
- 1:13:39nobody will throw anybody
- 1:13:40around because they don't
- 1:13:41want their name thrown around.
- 1:13:43Because it'll just be
- 1:13:44retaliation if it ever comes out.
- 1:13:48That they told on someone else type thing?
- 1:13:52Like I would have nothing to
- 1:13:52worry about because I don't
- 1:13:54take anything.
- 1:13:54Like they can put me under.
- 1:13:56All right.
- 1:14:02Yeah.
- 1:14:02I don't know.
- 1:14:03Yeah.
- 1:14:04Who's to say someone to say, Dave,
- 1:14:05everyone's using test them all.
- 1:14:07Yeah.
- 1:14:09You should.
- 1:14:10Yeah.
- 1:14:12Well, my biggest problem with,
- 1:14:14with the drug testing is I
- 1:14:16don't care about the testing at the comp.
- 1:14:17I want them testing two,
- 1:14:19three weeks before the comp
- 1:14:20a month before the comp at
- 1:14:21their gym unannounced show up.
- 1:14:24That's what I want.
- 1:14:25They know they're getting tested at,
- 1:14:27at these damn comps.
- 1:14:28That's not where you catch them.
- 1:14:29If you catch them there,
- 1:14:30they're probably don't,
- 1:14:31they don't know what they're doing.
- 1:14:32right test them what I don't
- 1:14:35know if it's three weeks
- 1:14:36whatever that's the prime
- 1:14:37time during the open at
- 1:14:39their gym during quarters
- 1:14:40that's what right now
- 1:14:41quarters I bet you right
- 1:14:42now this is prime time drug
- 1:14:44for people there's no
- 1:14:46testing they're at their
- 1:14:47home gym they're trying to
- 1:14:48qualify for sunnies in
- 1:14:49about a month or a month or
- 1:14:50two whenever that is month and a half
- 1:14:53Show up at these camps.
- 1:14:55Not just camps.
- 1:14:56Gyms, whatever.
- 1:14:57Test there.
- 1:14:59Unannounced.
- 1:15:00Blood test.
- 1:15:01Urine.
- 1:15:02For all of it.
- 1:15:03Do it.
- 1:15:04That's my thing.
- 1:15:06Just to clear.
- 1:15:06Not at settings.
- 1:15:07Clear this up.
- 1:15:08Everybody at the games has been tested.
- 1:15:11Right.
- 1:15:12In the elite division.
- 1:15:14Right.
- 1:15:14I just want to clear that up.
- 1:15:15Individual.
- 1:15:16In the individual elite.
- 1:15:18Right.
- 1:15:19Yeah, right.
- 1:15:20And half the teams.
- 1:15:21And two out of the four,
- 1:15:22which is not good.
- 1:15:25I got to go.
- 1:15:26I'm going to leave it to you.
- 1:15:27Jamie just hit end stream
- 1:15:28when you guys are done.
- 1:15:29Have fun finishing this conversation.
- 1:15:32Okay, bye.
- 1:15:36Yeah, I mean, at the games makes no sense.
- 1:15:41You're right.
- 1:15:42That's not where you're catching –
- 1:15:46Like you still have to do it
- 1:15:48at the games and at the semis and stuff,
- 1:15:49because obviously that's an
- 1:15:50easy place to do it.
- 1:15:51Everyone's already there.
- 1:15:53You don't have to send
- 1:15:53people to different
- 1:15:54locations and you still
- 1:15:55want them to be clean at that event.
- 1:15:57But that's not,
- 1:15:58I think where people are
- 1:16:01necessarily on stuff.
- 1:16:05Right.
- 1:16:05While, while they're competing.
- 1:16:07Totally agree.
- 1:16:08Do you think that they'll
- 1:16:09ever get to a point where
- 1:16:10all four members get tested for teams?
- 1:16:20No, no, no.
- 1:16:23And it would be nice if like
- 1:16:26whatever two got tested at semis,
- 1:16:29the other two got,
- 1:16:30I don't know if they do
- 1:16:32anything like that.
- 1:16:33Like they double check who
- 1:16:34they tested at semis.
- 1:16:36Yeah.
- 1:16:40Yeah.
- 1:16:40Well, yeah.
- 1:16:41Ricky didn't know what he was doing.
- 1:16:42Clearly.
- 1:16:42I don't know what happened there.
- 1:16:44He was a rookie at that point.
- 1:16:45So he probably didn't expect
- 1:16:47to be third place or second, third place.
- 1:16:50He was going there,
- 1:16:51not thinking that he was
- 1:16:54going to do maybe as well.
- 1:16:55I don't know.
- 1:16:57Yeah,
- 1:16:57I almost feel like it should be not
- 1:16:59anonymous, though.
- 1:17:02I don't know.
- 1:17:03I guess it does.
- 1:17:04I don't know.
- 1:17:04It's tough.
- 1:17:13I would just like more,
- 1:17:14but of course I'd like more,
- 1:17:15but I guess we'll see what changes.
- 1:17:19I feel like we're getting
- 1:17:20less and less money in our
- 1:17:21sport right now.
- 1:17:21So I feel like there's
- 1:17:22probably going to be not as much testing.
- 1:17:25Yeah.
- 1:17:26It's just not what we want.
- 1:17:27I'm very curious to see what
- 1:17:29happens with masters.
- 1:17:32That's a,
- 1:17:33that's another issue normally in
- 1:17:35the masters.
- 1:17:36Yeah.
- 1:17:36Because like, it's a lot more prevalent.
- 1:17:39I would.
- 1:17:39Right.
- 1:17:40And,
- 1:17:41I don't think they – I mean,
- 1:17:43they don't test at, like, Legends or MFC.
- 1:17:45So if Legends hasn't ever
- 1:17:47been budgeting that, like,
- 1:17:50it's not going to get done
- 1:17:52when they take over for the game.
- 1:17:54So that – I don't know.
- 1:17:55That worries me.
- 1:17:56Yeah, because I guess, like,
- 1:17:59what's CrossFit's role at –
- 1:18:02at the masters games like is
- 1:18:04are they just allowing them
- 1:18:06to use the name crossfit
- 1:18:07it's the crossfit masters
- 1:18:08games and there's some
- 1:18:09small support maybe in
- 1:18:11broadcasting they'll help a
- 1:18:12little bit but in terms of
- 1:18:14the drug testing I'm not
- 1:18:15sure that that we'll see
- 1:18:17this year right I'm
- 1:18:20assuming that I'm assuming
- 1:18:22that at least the top
- 1:18:25podium what did they do at
- 1:18:26the games this year I think
- 1:18:27it was top five
- 1:18:28I think it's five.
- 1:18:29Yeah.
- 1:18:29And there was 10 athletes in the field.
- 1:18:32No at random, right?
- 1:18:33It was always the top five.
- 1:18:34Correct.
- 1:18:35So half the field got tested at the games.
- 1:18:38So at least that's good.
- 1:18:39Cause they were,
- 1:18:40there was only 10 people per division.
- 1:18:43So with 40 athletes now,
- 1:18:47it's not that many.
- 1:18:49No.
- 1:18:50Cause a lot of people will
- 1:18:51be going that haven't been
- 1:18:55And they don't get tested at
- 1:18:58semis to go to the games.
- 1:19:00You're all online.
- 1:19:02Right.
- 1:19:02Yeah.
- 1:19:06It sucks.
- 1:19:08I know.
- 1:19:09I wish eventually that there
- 1:19:10would be like a semifinal
- 1:19:12for Masters and teams.
- 1:19:15Different than maybe even individuals.
- 1:19:18And then you go to the games.
- 1:19:21Even if it was like...
- 1:19:23the Wednesday,
- 1:19:25Thursday was masters and age
- 1:19:27group at the semifinals.
- 1:19:28And then the Friday, Saturday,
- 1:19:29Sunday was teams and
- 1:19:32individuals or something,
- 1:19:33or even masters and the
- 1:19:34Indies and teams on it on another day.
- 1:19:37Cause I think the teams like
- 1:19:39implements could be like,
- 1:19:40they have way too many
- 1:19:40things and the worm it'd be
- 1:19:42easier if it was like
- 1:19:43similar workouts between
- 1:19:44the masters and the, and the individuals.
- 1:19:46Yeah.
- 1:19:48Yeah.
- 1:19:48That would be cool.
- 1:19:50I mean, they would,
- 1:19:51they would run similarly.
- 1:19:53Like at the same time.
- 1:19:56Yeah,
- 1:19:56I've always felt that way with like
- 1:19:57the teams that like they're
- 1:19:59the ones who are taking all
- 1:20:00this extra equipment, more equipment,
- 1:20:02different,
- 1:20:02bigger equipment and like a
- 1:20:04resetting of the floor.
- 1:20:05I feel like that's where the
- 1:20:08extra costs come in.
- 1:20:09So, yeah, to me,
- 1:20:12it's never made quite sense
- 1:20:13to separate equipment.
- 1:20:16the masters in one place,
- 1:20:17the teens in one place.
- 1:20:18And then the floor doesn't
- 1:20:21change for any of them.
- 1:20:22It's maybe the weights a little bit,
- 1:20:24but that's about it.
- 1:20:26Yeah.
- 1:20:27Not much.
- 1:20:29Yeah.
- 1:20:29We did kick Scott out.
- 1:20:30Is there anything else from today?
- 1:20:36Nope.
- 1:20:37That was the last thing on
- 1:20:39was the drug testing.
- 1:20:40So yeah.
- 1:20:41Wrapped it up pretty good this week.
- 1:20:43How are you feeling coming into next week?
- 1:20:46Oh, my God.
- 1:20:47I'm broken down.
- 1:20:49I heard you had some body work.
- 1:20:51That's why you were late getting on.
- 1:20:53And I had a massage today, too.
- 1:20:54And I was a mess.
- 1:20:56I could not get off the table.
- 1:20:59I had gotten so stiff.
- 1:21:02Luckily,
- 1:21:02her husband is also my chiropractor.
- 1:21:05So he came and did some adjustments.
- 1:21:07But I'm a wreck.
- 1:21:09I feel like I haven't
- 1:21:10recovered since the open.
- 1:21:12So I don't know.
- 1:21:13I'm nervous.
- 1:21:15Yeah.
- 1:21:15I had my back the last two
- 1:21:17days has been almost feels
- 1:21:20bruised a little bit at the bottom,
- 1:21:22like an extension.
- 1:21:23It's not, but like,
- 1:21:24it just feels that way.
- 1:21:25Like that's a feeling of it.
- 1:21:26And I've been walking very
- 1:21:28slowly and a little crooked.
- 1:21:29Um, I don't know where,
- 1:21:31like what happened.
- 1:21:32I think,
- 1:21:32I think it was my last piece on Tuesday.
- 1:21:34I had sandbag locks,
- 1:21:37yoke carry and sled pushes, um,
- 1:21:41And I think when I was
- 1:21:42moving my sandbag just to
- 1:21:43begin the workout,
- 1:21:44like to bring it to the
- 1:21:45station I was going at,
- 1:21:47I think that's when like,
- 1:21:47maybe I just didn't lift it very well.
- 1:21:49It's just been stiff.
- 1:21:50I think it'll be good.
- 1:21:51It's just going to take a
- 1:21:52few days to kind of unlock.
- 1:21:54So the last two days I've had treatment,
- 1:21:55I took yesterday off
- 1:21:57completely and I'm supposed
- 1:21:58to work out normally on Wednesdays.
- 1:22:00Today I moved around a
- 1:22:01little bit at school and
- 1:22:03then took this evening off
- 1:22:05to get some treatment.
- 1:22:07I'm hoping tomorrow I can
- 1:22:09lift from the floor but if I
- 1:22:11need to not lift from the
- 1:22:12floor tomorrow I'll take it
- 1:22:13one more day I think it'll
- 1:22:14be good by saturday nothing
- 1:22:16serious I just I felt like
- 1:22:19I was broken yeah what's
- 1:22:22your plan for next week are
- 1:22:24you gonna start on
- 1:22:25wednesday are you gonna start on thursday
- 1:22:28I keep going back and forth in my head.
- 1:22:30I keep saying, Oh,
- 1:22:31maybe I should just start
- 1:22:32it on Wednesday and take Tuesday off.
- 1:22:35And then I have a staff
- 1:22:36meeting after work on Wednesday now.
- 1:22:39So we have it once a week.
- 1:22:41So that would be against until four 30.
- 1:22:43If I go to the,
- 1:22:44if I go to the staff meeting,
- 1:22:45I'm going to not do the
- 1:22:47workout on the Wednesday
- 1:22:48and digest them and plan my week,
- 1:22:50my weekend out.
- 1:22:52I'm saying if I don't,
- 1:22:53if I don't go to the staff meetings,
- 1:22:54I was going to maybe say
- 1:22:55that I have like a medical
- 1:22:56appointment or something.
- 1:22:58Um, but we'll see.
- 1:23:00Uh,
- 1:23:00normally I'm at the staff meeting until
- 1:23:01four 30.
- 1:23:02So I have a feeling I'll
- 1:23:04look at the workouts Wednesday.
- 1:23:05I think I'll take Wednesday
- 1:23:06off completely.
- 1:23:07I'll move around on Tuesday.
- 1:23:10So ideally tomorrow, Saturday, Sunday,
- 1:23:13I'll work out normally
- 1:23:14probably like I'm deloading in terms of
- 1:23:19Not necessarily volume,
- 1:23:20but more how heavy I'm
- 1:23:22lifting and just more.
- 1:23:24I think that's how I do
- 1:23:25better with my deload.
- 1:23:26I can still keep the
- 1:23:27intensity and still do like
- 1:23:30regular training.
- 1:23:32Tuesday, I'll move around till Monday.
- 1:23:33I'll take off Tuesday.
- 1:23:34I'll move around,
- 1:23:35maybe do like rowing and
- 1:23:36some shuttle runs,
- 1:23:38maybe some light power snatches.
- 1:23:41Like I like, I don't know.
- 1:23:43115 to 125, like not for many reps.
- 1:23:46Wednesday, I would take off,
- 1:23:47look at the workouts,
- 1:23:48hopefully do one or two Thursday,
- 1:23:53one maybe on Friday,
- 1:23:56because I'm assuming I'll
- 1:23:57be sore on Friday.
- 1:23:58So I'm thinking it might be only one.
- 1:24:00Saturday would be a redo of
- 1:24:02maybe one of the first two
- 1:24:03scores that are in.
- 1:24:06And then Sunday or Monday, whatever, like
- 1:24:10That fourth one that I
- 1:24:11haven't done or it really
- 1:24:13depends on what they are,
- 1:24:14how many scores events.
- 1:24:16Are you doing them Wednesday or Thursday?
- 1:24:18No,
- 1:24:18I'm going to take Wednesday off
- 1:24:20completely and then start on Thursday.
- 1:24:25We'll see if I do two on Thursday.
- 1:24:27I think Scott's getting into
- 1:24:29town on Thursday,
- 1:24:31but I definitely will do
- 1:24:32one on Thursday and,
- 1:24:34and I might just do one Thursday,
- 1:24:35one Friday, one Saturday and,
- 1:24:38That's my other thing too,
- 1:24:39is I probably won't,
- 1:24:40now that I think about it,
- 1:24:41because I'm working,
- 1:24:43I don't think it's probably,
- 1:24:44I would perform the best if
- 1:24:45I do two on an evening
- 1:24:47after a long day of work.
- 1:24:49So worst case is I would
- 1:24:51take the Friday off work,
- 1:24:53feeling sick Thursday.
- 1:24:55Yeah.
- 1:24:56Yeah.
- 1:24:57And I'll take Friday maybe off work.
- 1:24:59So I would go one Thursday night,
- 1:25:01two on Friday,
- 1:25:02but split like maybe one earlier,
- 1:25:04maybe around like nine or
- 1:25:0510 and then one later on.
- 1:25:07Cause it does get exhausting.
- 1:25:08Like at the end of the week to teach.
- 1:25:12And then you go into the.
- 1:25:16Yeah.
- 1:25:16Just the stress of these.
- 1:25:18The whole thing is stressful.
- 1:25:19It's very stressful.
- 1:25:20Yeah.
- 1:25:21And like people, some people do very,
- 1:25:23very well there and they do
- 1:25:24less well in person.
- 1:25:26And they've just like
- 1:25:27crushed it last year.
- 1:25:28I didn't do as well as I
- 1:25:29wanted to in the quarterfinals.
- 1:25:32I think I was like.
- 1:25:35Maybe 30 something.
- 1:25:36So.
- 1:25:37I can't do like that.
- 1:25:38Cause I would be very,
- 1:25:39very close to maybe it's 20
- 1:25:41something high twenties,
- 1:25:42high twenties or low thirties,
- 1:25:44but that still scares me.
- 1:25:45And it's like, Oh,
- 1:25:47I was pretty close to the cut of 40.
- 1:25:49So I need to take it a little bit better.
- 1:25:54Yup.
- 1:25:55Yup.
- 1:25:56That's my plan.
- 1:25:57Cool.
- 1:25:58So, all right,
- 1:25:59well get a good night's rest and, um,
- 1:26:02I hope the rest of the week
- 1:26:04weekend goes good for
- 1:26:05training for you and, um,
- 1:26:06I'm sure I'll be in touch.
- 1:26:08Yeah.
- 1:26:08I'm sure I'll message you
- 1:26:09when I see the workouts.
- 1:26:10Yeah.
- 1:26:10We can chat about them for sure.
- 1:26:13It's nice to have,
- 1:26:14maybe have someone that we could like,
- 1:26:16like talk to about scores
- 1:26:18even and trust each other.
- 1:26:19My scores don't matter for you.
- 1:26:21So you can, well, you can,
- 1:26:24we're in the same region, but we can,
- 1:26:27we'll talk.
- 1:26:28Yeah.
- 1:26:29All right.
- 1:26:30You guys all have a good night.
- 1:26:32Goodbye, everybody.
- 1:26:33I don't know.
- 1:26:34I always forget how to do
- 1:26:35the play the music out.
- 1:26:37So we're just going to end the stream.
- 1:26:38So bye.
- 1:26:39Bye.