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Best of Chuck & Buck 11-25 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Heoln up in the shotgun. He's got McCaffrey too, was left.
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  Speaker 1: Two receivers right, single man left. Here's the SNAT party
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  Speaker 1: back looking left, Rose left off the slam cut by
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  Speaker 1: Jennings inside.
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  Speaker 2: The block breaks the tackling and he had the.
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  Speaker 3: One touchdown forty nine ers.
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  Speaker 4: Chawat Jennings made that catch. It looked like the Panthers
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  Speaker 4: hadn't wrapped up, but he bounced out, spun to his
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  Speaker 4: left into the end zone for a twelve yard touchdown,
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  Speaker 4: and San Francisco is taking.
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  Speaker 3: A six to nothing lead.
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  Speaker 1: Second down of three, forty nine ers at the Panthers
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  Speaker 1: twelve I formation party under center. Here's the snap toss play.
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  Speaker 1: McCaffrey running left, has a block, cuts it up down
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  Speaker 1: to the five.
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  Speaker 4: McCaffrey to the end zone, touchdown, forty nine ers on
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  Speaker 4: twelve yard touchdown run for Christian McCaffery, his seventh rushing
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  Speaker 4: touchdown of the year, his twelfth overall, and the forty
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  Speaker 4: nine ers lead.
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  Speaker 1: Is sixteen to three. Tavian Sanders in motion from left
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  Speaker 1: to right. Young back pump think he was right, rush
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  Speaker 1: coming grows deep down.
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  Speaker 4: The field, got a man caught touchdown. Carolina it's tenor
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  Speaker 4: Rollo mc billin. He beat Bernano Green right down the
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  Speaker 4: scene on twenty nine yard Touchsnowns right and with forty
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  Speaker 4: nine seconds to go with the third it's now the
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  Speaker 4: forty nine or seventeen.
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  Speaker 1: The Panthers nine have the pat coming up.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you Westwood One for those highlights. I didn't call
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  Speaker 3: bad Boy. We do have some headlines, obviously, Seattle Seahawks
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  Speaker 3: moving on from the Tennessee Titans win and the Vikings
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  Speaker 3: come into town. That will be interesting. This is where
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  Speaker 3: Sam Donald was last year. This is they came in
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  Speaker 3: last year and beat the Seahawks with Sam Donald. So
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  Speaker 3: the one nice thing is, well, I shouldn't say nice thing.
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  Speaker 3: One thing that's in the favor of the Seahawks is
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  Speaker 3: you don't know for sure who's going to be playing
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  Speaker 3: quarterback for the team you're going against. I think Max
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  Speaker 3: what's his name Brosnan had pulled up here somewhere. We'll
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  Speaker 3: ask Greg about it. They have a quarterback that played
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  Speaker 3: at New Hampshire and then transferred to Minnesota is probably
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  Speaker 3: going to be the quarterback because JJ McCarthy is in
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  Speaker 3: concussion protocol. Another quarterback news, Zach Taylor confirms Joe Burrow
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  Speaker 3: is going to play on Thanksgiving Night. That is going
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  Speaker 3: to be interesting to see if he can turn a
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  Speaker 3: season that has been horrible around or if he can
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  Speaker 3: just stay healthy for that matter. Baker Mayfield also got
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  Speaker 3: hurt in the Monday Night Football or Sunday Night Football
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  Speaker 3: game Sunday Night football game that he had a low
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  Speaker 3: grade shoulder spraying. Word is they don't know for sure
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  Speaker 3: if he's in to play, but it sounds like he's
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  Speaker 3: going to try to play through it. Obviously. Coming up
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  Speaker 3: this weekend is the Huskies hosting the Ducks. That is
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  Speaker 3: going to be a good one. Ashley and I are
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  Speaker 3: going to continue to talk trash to one another. She
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  Speaker 3: likes playing that darn song all the time, and I
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  Speaker 3: think that maybe her daughter's going to try to beat
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  Speaker 3: my sun up when we tailgate together. So that'll be interesting.
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  Speaker 3: We'll find out how that whole thing pans out. But
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  Speaker 3: as of right now, it is time that we get
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  Speaker 3: our Seahawks insider Greg Bell on the horn.
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  Speaker 6: With the bell tolls, it must be seven o'clock and
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  Speaker 6: Here's Greg Bell with Chuck and bund.
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  Speaker 3: Oh those celebratory bells right there, those are always nice. Greg.
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  Speaker 3: Are you ready for Thanksgiving? Are you? Are you preparing
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  Speaker 3: for Christmas already? Which boat are you in? Do you
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  Speaker 3: prematurely celebrate Christmas or not?
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  Speaker 5: No?
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  Speaker 3: Had a boy? Thank you?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah? Wait, Thanksgiving gets its beautiful place. It's a good
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  Speaker 5: holiday for us. My daughter's home from Connecticut for college,
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  Speaker 5: and yeah, Thanksgivings a big deal for us.
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  Speaker 3: How about your boy? Is he going to be around
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  Speaker 3: or no?
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, he's here too, okay before of us. It's
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  Speaker 5: like old times again.
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  Speaker 3: Nice.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, we're I was talking to about. We went
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  Speaker 5: to a boxing class last night. I haven't done that
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  Speaker 5: since my yearly year West Point. I've had to take boxing.
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  Speaker 5: It was fun and we didn't just do the aerobic boxing.
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  Speaker 5: We were actually with gloves and took me a little bit
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  Speaker 5: of shadow sparring.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so there was no actual punch, no sparring. Well,
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  Speaker 3: punch each other, did you that?
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  Speaker 7: Punches each other?
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  Speaker 5: Stay carrying punches? But my wife thought I got in
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  Speaker 5: a little too many extra on her.
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  Speaker 3: Oh so yeah, you've got some making up to do.
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  Speaker 3: For Thanksgiving. It sounds like, yeah, yeah, I'm not going
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  Speaker 3: to mess with my wife any longer.
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  Speaker 5: I'm smarter than that. Yeah, my wife could.
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  Speaker 3: Kick my just drop my gloves like I'm done, I quit.
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  Speaker 5: I quit.
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  Speaker 3: A good call, by the way, happy wife, happy life.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely don't punch your wife too terrible times, at least
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  Speaker 3: if it's not in fun.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, if you're not boxing, never do it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, never do.
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  Speaker 5: It that way.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously. I don't think we have to. I don't think
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  Speaker 3: we have to tell Greg that. Well gee, I mean
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  Speaker 3: we're kind of moving on right. Turkey Day is making
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  Speaker 3: the week a little bit shorter. Football will be here
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  Speaker 3: before you know it. I mean, we actually never talked
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  Speaker 3: about the fact that you got today and tomorrow and
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  Speaker 3: then you got five basically five straight days of football
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  Speaker 3: if you include Saturday, which is a big day for
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  Speaker 3: college football this week with all the rivalry games. But
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  Speaker 3: Seahawks are moving on right. They end up pulling out
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  Speaker 3: a w got a little sloppy, got a little bit
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  Speaker 3: closer than anybody thought it should be. But now it's
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  Speaker 3: time to move towards the vikings. I mean, I guess
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  Speaker 3: one storyline, Sam Donald, that's where he played last year.
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  Speaker 3: He brought this same team in saans him obviously and
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  Speaker 3: obviously a few other changes, and beat the Seahawks here
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  Speaker 3: last season. You think Sam Donald's thinking anything about that
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  Speaker 3: or is there any information that he's being able to
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  Speaker 3: give to where it gives even more of an advantage
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  Speaker 3: to the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I do think this is not an ordinary game
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  Speaker 5: for him, and there's a tangible advantage that he knows
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  Speaker 5: the style and the play calling of Kevin O'Connell. And
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  Speaker 5: he won't ever admit to this this week, and he'll
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  Speaker 5: say it's another game, But this is the team Minnesota
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  Speaker 5: that resurrected his career, and it was an accidental resurrection
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  Speaker 5: because JJ McCarthy was supposed to be the starter as
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  Speaker 5: the rookie tenth overall pick last year, blows out his
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  Speaker 5: knee in the summer and Sam Donald's hand at the job.
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  Speaker 5: A lot of fans might know during the season when
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  Speaker 5: they needed veteran depth, this Vikings actually had Sam Donalds
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  Speaker 5: starting Daniel Jones as the back up, and they let
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  Speaker 5: both of them go, and now McCarthy not only is concussed,
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  Speaker 5: he's struggled up to that point. The Vikings are four
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  Speaker 5: and seven. You mentioned the undrafted rookie quarterback from New
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  Speaker 5: Hampshire Minnesota, Brosmer, who's in line to start because Carson
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  Speaker 5: Wentz is out with a shoulder injury. You have as
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  Speaker 5: many injuries and in effect in this a quarterback, you're
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  Speaker 5: going to be four and seven, like the playoff team
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  Speaker 5: Minnesota's got. They went from fourteen and three with Sam
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  Speaker 5: Donald last year to four and seven without them this year.
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  Speaker 5: There are a lot of people in Minnesota and maybe
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  Speaker 5: someone that Viking's building who will regret the decisions they've
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  Speaker 5: made at quarterback so far. And we'll see what McCarthy become.
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  Speaker 5: He's only ten games in his NFL career. But to
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  Speaker 5: say the least, this is setting up optimally for the Seahawks,
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  Speaker 5: and so I think we, oh.
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  Speaker 8: And is it setting up optimally for their defense because obviously,
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  Speaker 8: you know, we talked about how they were slopping in
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  Speaker 8: the second half last weekend, and you attributed quite a
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  Speaker 8: bit of that to injuries, which is, you know, obviously
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  Speaker 8: a big issue. So do we have any updates. I'm
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  Speaker 8: hearing that maybe Ernest Jones and Tyreese Night are playing.
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  Speaker 5: At night more than Jones looks like he's untracked by
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  Speaker 5: Night is emerging from the concussion proto called Mike McDonald
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  Speaker 5: told us yesterday, and it looks like he'll practice on Wednesday.
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  Speaker 5: The inside weekside linebacker Ernest Jones is quote itching to play,
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  Speaker 5: McDonald said, but that they're going to see on beginning
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  Speaker 5: Wednesday if he can get on the field. They usually
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  Speaker 5: give him rest days on Wednesday, veteran rest days, so
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  Speaker 5: he may not get on the field till Thursday, which
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  Speaker 5: will be more of an indication of whether he can play.
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  Speaker 5: In my sense, Ashley is that they're both going to
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  Speaker 5: play okay and that will help. And Julian Love is
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  Speaker 5: eligible to come back off injured reserve to return to
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  Speaker 5: practice this week. So is Eric Salbert a veteran tight
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  Speaker 5: end as a matter of fact, But McDonald said he's
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  Speaker 5: not yet ready to declare that Love's going to do that.
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  Speaker 5: They're trying to be conservative with him so that he
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  Speaker 5: can come back and stay back for the rest of
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  Speaker 5: the season. But they could have three starters back on
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  Speaker 5: defense and the defense that needs it right now.
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  Speaker 3: Jee there's not a lot of coaches in the league, obviously.
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  Speaker 3: Mike McDonald's a year and a half into is head
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  Speaker 3: coaching tenure. But so there's not a lot of resume
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  Speaker 3: on there, and yet this is one guy who at
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  Speaker 3: this point has the upper hand. Want to know, in
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  Speaker 3: Kevin O'Connell, do you recall anything from last year that
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  Speaker 3: was troublesome because we give a lot of credit Kevin
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  Speaker 3: o'donald gets a lot of credit for play calling in
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  Speaker 3: the offensive mind. And so we just watched a game
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  Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago where it was McVeigh his
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  Speaker 3: offensive mind against you know, McDonald's defensive mind, and and
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  Speaker 3: it turned out to be quite the battle and most
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  Speaker 3: certainly one that I think, regardless of the outcome of
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  Speaker 3: the game, people might think Mike McDonald won that that
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  Speaker 3: part of the battle. This is one where that it
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  Speaker 3: was not the case last year the Minnesota Vikings beat
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  Speaker 3: the Seahawks. And so, how are you feeling or how
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  Speaker 3: should people be feeling about the Kevin O'Connell McDonald matchup?
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  Speaker 5: Well, Bucky, to me, the biggest difference between the Seahawks
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  Speaker 5: defense right now and last year when the Vikings came
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  Speaker 5: in here is pass rush, and they weren't really effective
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  Speaker 5: in affecting Donald enough. He threw three touchdowns, no interceptions
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  Speaker 5: in almost three hundred yards that game in Seattle last year.
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  Speaker 5: About this time this year, he's been able to McDonald's
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  Speaker 5: been able to get pressure with the front four. Now
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  Speaker 5: against Tennessee, he blitzed Devin Witherspoon in particular, more than
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  Speaker 5: he's blitzed Witherspoon I've noticed in an entire game, Witherspoon
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  Speaker 5: got home a couple times. I was joking with Witherspoon
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  Speaker 5: after the game in Nashville Sunday that he should have
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  Speaker 5: gotten some of the sack that Derek Hall got because
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  Speaker 5: Witherspoon's blitz sent cam Ward right in to Derek Hall
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  Speaker 5: for that sack. Those Halls for a sack of the season. Haul,
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  Speaker 5: by the way, told me that he'd been waiting forever
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  Speaker 5: for that, for like years since he last sat the sack.
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  Speaker 5: But they they have options now in pressuring. They can
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  Speaker 5: rely on their front four with Leonard Williams and Byron Murphy,
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  Speaker 5: who picked up another sack. He told me that he's
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  Speaker 5: passed his sack goal already for this season and he
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  Speaker 5: still had six games to play. To Marcus Lawrence, those
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  Speaker 5: guys have really changed formed how McDonald can play defense
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  Speaker 5: now he can be trickier with O'Connell than he was
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  Speaker 5: last year. He was trickier with mcmcveigh a couple of
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  Speaker 5: weeks ago than he was last year against the Rams.
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  Speaker 5: If you can pressure with four and have seven back
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  Speaker 5: there to play all kinds of coverage as shell man
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  Speaker 5: Man's own hybrids, cover four, cover six, two deep, single high,
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  Speaker 5: it's just dealer's choice back there for the play caller
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  Speaker 5: on defense. If your front four is getting home and
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  Speaker 5: now you're gonna get a rookie quarterback, and undrafted rookie
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  Speaker 5: quarterback who's never seen what McDonald's New Hampshire's the defensive
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  Speaker 5: New Hampshire phase for four of his five college season,
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  Speaker 5: never ever did what McDonald's gonna throw at him on Sunday.
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  Speaker 5: That's the decisive advantage for Seattle here, so O'Connell, it
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  Speaker 5: could be Bill Wallash, it doesn't matter. The cards are
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  Speaker 5: so in Seattle's favor here of an undrafted rookie quarterback
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  Speaker 5: against a team that's getting pressure with four, that allows
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  Speaker 5: McDonald to play every thing Poe Prie on his defense.
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  Speaker 8: Greg It was noticeable in Nashville the Seahawks amount of
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  Speaker 8: Seahawks fans that traveled, and I have noticed it on
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  Speaker 8: TV listening or watching the games. You can hear there's
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  Speaker 8: been a couple of games where you can hear Seahawks
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  Speaker 8: fans being very vocal during the game. McDonald talked a
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  Speaker 8: little bit about it yesterday. What did he have to say,
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  Speaker 8: just kind of giving the fans some flowers.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I'm sure somebody in the organization asked him to
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  Speaker 5: say it, because he was talking about how many Seahawks
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  Speaker 5: fans that were on Broadway. And let me tell you,
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  Speaker 5: I was up and down Broadway for two nights. Mike
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  Speaker 5: McDonald was not on Broadway Saturday or Sunday nights. So
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  Speaker 5: someone tipped them off to that, and there were there
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  Speaker 5: were a ton of Seahawks fans everywhere we went. And
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  Speaker 5: then in the stadium. That stadium, the upper deck was
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  Speaker 5: maybe half full. The Titans are one to ten. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it was gonna be loud even if a few Seahawks
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  Speaker 5: fans showed up, and a lot of them did. And
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  Speaker 5: a lot of Seahawks fans live across the country in
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  Speaker 5: the Central and Eastern Times zone. This is an easy
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  Speaker 5: trip for that. I talked to a couple Seahork fans
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  Speaker 5: from the Baltimore, Washington area, from New England, from Atlanta,
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  Speaker 5: that there was an easier trip for them. Then of
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  Speaker 5: course come to Seattle, so that contributed all of it.
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  Speaker 5: And then in the stadium is what has happened. Ashley,
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  Speaker 5: You're right, you can hear the Seahawk fans, but just
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  Speaker 5: under McDonald, Seattle's twelve and two on the road, So
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  Speaker 5: twelve out of fourteen times the home team fans are
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  Speaker 5: leaving early and are ticked off and aren't saying anything,
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  Speaker 5: and the only people left that are yelling are Seahawks fans,
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  Speaker 5: which makes it easier for people to hear them on
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  Speaker 5: television because they're the only ones making noise. With six
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  Speaker 5: minutes left in that game, I put a video on
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  Speaker 5: Twitter about it. The exits were full, everyone left was
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  Speaker 5: still six minutes left. Even though the Titans ended up
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  Speaker 5: making it look good at the m with a cosmetic touchdown,
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  Speaker 5: the only people left in the stands were Seayork fans.
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  Speaker 5: So then the fans can preen to the visitors and
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  Speaker 5: everything else and it becomes a Seahawks show on the road.
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  Speaker 5: McDonald yesterday said that in all his coaching career, which
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  Speaker 5: is about twelve years now, a couple in college at
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  Speaker 5: Georgia and ten with the Baltimore Ravens and now two
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  Speaker 5: with the Seahorks. He's never seen a road crowd of
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  Speaker 5: a visiting team like he did in Nashville. And he
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  Speaker 5: did say that the players love that and they feed
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  Speaker 5: off of that. And when you win as often as
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  Speaker 5: they've been winning on the road, sometimes this can be
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  Speaker 5: the result. Yeah, those planes are packed with Seahawk fans,
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  Speaker 5: and it is a different experience for these players that
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  Speaker 5: go on the road be as successful as they are
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  Speaker 5: and have so many fans cheering for him.
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  Speaker 3: Greg the last year, I mean justin Jefferson went off
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  Speaker 3: in the game against against Seattle. I remember that, and
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  Speaker 3: yet that was when he had Sam Darnold throwing the
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  Speaker 3: ball to him, and now not only does he not
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  Speaker 3: have his first or second string quarterbacks going to be
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  Speaker 3: that Max Brosner, I mean, is this situation where when
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  Speaker 3: it comes to the past game you just flat out
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  Speaker 3: do you just say he's not getting anything? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: we are going to shut him down and then you
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  Speaker 3: see if they can possibly run the ball against that,
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  Speaker 3: which doesn't seem likely. Or is this one where because
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  Speaker 3: they're going to be having Max Brosmer back there. You're
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  Speaker 3: kind of not all that worried about the passing game period.
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  Speaker 5: Well, you're right. Jefferson was ten for one hundred and
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  Speaker 5: forty four and two touchdowns with Donald. Donald targets him
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  Speaker 5: thirteen times in that game. He only threw thirty five
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  Speaker 5: times and thirteen of them were to Jefferson. The game
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  Speaker 5: plan will be what it always is against the quarterback
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  Speaker 5: that is starting out for the first time, a young
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  Speaker 5: rookie quarterback, stop the run first. Kevin O'Connell, of course,
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  Speaker 5: will hope that he can run the ball so that
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  Speaker 5: Brosmer doesn't have to try to win the game on
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  Speaker 5: the road by himself in longyard situations. So Seattle's game
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  Speaker 5: plan will start with Minnesota's run game, and I would
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  Speaker 5: expect O'Connell will lean heavily on it. And if the
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  Speaker 5: Seahawks can get long third downs, which they did not
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  Speaker 5: get in Tennessee, which I mentioned yesterday. Much of the
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  Speaker 5: reason that the Titans made that game a little bit
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: interesting at the end and all the third and fourth
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: down versions they had it is because they were short
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: third and fourth downs. The reason they went for so
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: many fourth downs other than they were losing was because
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: it was fourth and one or two or three or
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: four instead of fourth and fifteen that they were converting.
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: And that's because primarily camp Ward and It's playmaking got
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: them in short yardage situation. So Seattle's game plans stop
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: the run, make the Vikings one dimensional, and with an
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: unrafted rookie quarterback, if they have third and ten the
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: Vikings do all game long, the Seahawks will win. That's
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: job one. Stop the early down runs and then let
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: your defense dictate the rest of the game. Honestly, it's
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: on paper and on with your eyes. This should be
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: less of a challenge for the defense than cam Ward
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: the Titans, where even though the Titans are one and ten,
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: because of the quarterback situation in the league, the quarterback
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: is it and if you have an undrafted third string
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: rookie quarterback, you should lose that game home and away
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: one hundred percent of the time in this league, turnovers
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: are always a mitigating actor. Yes, keep the hold of
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: the ball, but the Seahawks have no excuse. If Brozmer
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: ends up playing, and it looks like he will, the
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: Seaks would have no excuse to lose this game to
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: a third string rookie quarterback with the defense Seattle. That's
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: regardless of what Seattle's offense does.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: All right, all right, gee, well I appreciate it. Uh,
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: and you go ahead and have fun. I don't know
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: for sure if you should go to like a jiu
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: jitsu class or anything tonight. If your wife invites you,
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: there might be payback in store.
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, she's probably gonna have like an MMA class up for.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Just have some black belt guy or some UFC fighter
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: like you're you're rolling with him, Greg, have fun.
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's probably next. Yeah, we'll have me. We'll go
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: skiing and rocks into a bunch of trees. She ows
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: one for sure.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah. All right, Well take care of that lady, and
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: happy Thanksgiving. We'll talk to you tomorrow. We'll do that
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: roundtable tomorrow.
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: Yes, sir, I have a good Tuesday. Thanks.
• 19:00
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• 19:30
  Speaker 3: gone before Thanksgivings over there on tea it. But before
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: this hour is over, we're going to have a little
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: bit more trash talk. We are going to discuss your
• 19:41
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• 19:46
  Speaker 3: Radio ninety three point three kJ RFM. Oh is that
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: who that is?
• 19:50
  Speaker 7: Not lewis Man?
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: You know I just added his newest album to my
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Apple plaything Yet I Jill still didn't know that was him.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: I'm horrible at that game, but it is what it is. Well,
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: we got a superstar on her hands when it comes
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: to JSN and obviously breaking the single season Seahawks record,
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: that's one thing that is impressive in and of itself.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: And yet now I'm wondering if we start the conversation
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: or if it's too early to start the conversation of
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: how far away he is from tracking down the all
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: time record that is held by megatroling. Calvin Johnson back
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: in twenty twelve, had nineteen hundred and sixty four yards.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Right now, JSN sitting at thirteen thirteen, so one three
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: hundred and thirteen yards. That is a difference of six
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty one yards. Based on my Hermiston High
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: School math and Lewis Clark State math as well, really
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: really good math programs at both of those places, I
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: can tell you one hundred and eight and a half
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: yards per game. He would need to average over the
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: final six to tie that basically, so that in a
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: couple of inches here and there, and he would be
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: the all time leader or best single season. Now that
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: the guy second on the list is Cooper Cup. He
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: finished less than twenty yards shy of breaking that record
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: back in twenty twenty one, and so he's got a
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: guy right there in the clubhouse. So that knows exactly
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: how hard it is to have a season that he's
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: on pace for having. Right now, do you feel like
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: it's premature to start the countdown of you know, chipping
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: away at that six hundred and fifty one yards that
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: JSN has to get to be the all time best
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: single season receiver yardage.
• 21:37
  Speaker 8: Wise, absolutely not. I was looking up his stats earlier
• 21:40
  Speaker 8: and it is. I think he's averaging what one hundred
• 21:42
  Speaker 8: and eighteen yards per game.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: Something like that.
• 21:44
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's six games left. Yeah, yeah, No, I don't
• 21:47
  Speaker 8: think that's too early.
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: It's about the perfect time.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: About the perfect time. So okay, well, I mean I
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: think it's it's a you know that he's thinking about it.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: I think if I remember correctly this weekend when he
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: broke the single season record, he had caught a ball
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: and then kept that ball like he's paying attention. I
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: think guys pay attention to that a lot. I think
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: they understand where they're at as far as the you
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: know rule the record books go, and and rightfully so,
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: you know, you you have a nice, big house with
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: multiple mantles, you might as well put trophies on him
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: if you're earning them. And and I think that he's
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: cognizant of it. At the same time, it's in this game,
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: especially for a guy that is getting as many catches
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: as he is, it's I mean, it's one of those
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: Staying healthy I think is really the only thing. And
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: obviously him healthy, Sam Darnold healthy. I don't know for
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: sure if you're feeling real good if if well, obviously
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: if he was to go down, that would go, that
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: would and we're not I think that he's very good.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: He obviously does more after the catch than Tyler Lockett did.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: But Tyler Lockett was very available over the course of
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: his career because he understood I'm not a big dude. Now,
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: js N's built better or built different than Tyler Lockett.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: He can take a hit here and there. And yet
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: the fact that there's it seems like half of the
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: passing game every single week runs through JSN. You've got
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: to be smart. You got to you know, make sure
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: that you don't get twisted up on when you could
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: have just you know, went down when the first guy
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: has got you wrapped up. And so I'm not thinking
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: it's too soon to talk about it. If anything, it's
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: I think it's right about the perfect time to start
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: having the discussion. I mean, I think the more interesting
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: conversation is the fact that there's most people are giving
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: him the flowers that he deserves, right. I mean, we're
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: over halfway through the season, but not far beyond the
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: midway point, and so there's still a long ways to go.
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: And yet it.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Feels like, you know, there still is this is he
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: the best in the game right now? And I think
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: that you do have to put up more than one
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: and a half good years before you can knock a
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: guy like Jamar Chase or Justin Jefferson, if those are
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: the two primo guys. But the George Pickett I heard,
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: I think it was dan Or Lofsky was talking about
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: that he should be in the conversation, and people were
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: up in arms, Seattle fans, what are you talking about?
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: He's not even the best this season. And it's like
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: he wasn't saying he is the best in the game.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: He was saying he's playing like he belongs in the conversation,
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: just like we're saying JSN belongs in that conversation right now.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: And so I think it's interesting how a lot of
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: times Seahawk fans are just Seattle fans feel slighted. There's
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: some slights that happen because we are all the way
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: on the left coast and there's a lot of people
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: that are, you know, east of the Mississippi that don't
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: watch games that are played as late as they are
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: here because of the time difference. And yet I think
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: within the NFL community, anybody that follows the sport closely
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: from coast to coast. I think they're recognizing exactly what
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: JSN is bringing to the table right now, and that
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: is something that's on pace to be historic.
• 24:58
  Speaker 8: Well, and here's the thing too, is first of all,
• 25:00
  Speaker 8: they're always going to try to find to have a
• 25:02
  Speaker 8: or try to find a way to have a conversation
• 25:03
  Speaker 8: involving the Dallas Cowboys. The Dallas Cowboys, especially on ESPN,
• 25:07
  Speaker 8: they're going to bring them up as many times as
• 25:09
  Speaker 8: they can. But also you want to actually have a
• 25:13
  Speaker 8: conversation about the top five wide receivers in the NFL. Yes,
• 25:18
  Speaker 8: right now, JSN seems to have put himself above everybody else.
• 25:22
  Speaker 8: But you've got George Pickens, Pukin Akua, aman Ros, Saint Brown,
• 25:25
  Speaker 8: and Jamar Chase right below him. And so you've got
• 25:29
  Speaker 8: six weeks left of the season. These conversations have to
• 25:32
  Speaker 8: be had. They've got to come up with things to
• 25:33
  Speaker 8: talk about, and they're always gonna, as I said, try
• 25:35
  Speaker 8: to find a way to work the Cowboys in. George
• 25:37
  Speaker 8: Pickens is having a good season, so he shouldn't be
• 25:40
  Speaker 8: ignored and saying that he should be or has put
• 25:44
  Speaker 8: himself into the conversation for one of the best wide
• 25:47
  Speaker 8: receivers in the NFL. That doesn't mean that Jackson Smith
• 25:50
  Speaker 8: and Jigba is not also one of the best wide
• 25:53
  Speaker 8: receivers in the NFL.
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: It doesn't.
• 25:55
  Speaker 8: It doesn't take anything away from Jackson Smith and Jigball. Honestly,
• 25:59
  Speaker 8: if you're talking about how great George Pickens looks right
• 26:01
  Speaker 8: now and Jackson Smith and Jigba is having a better
• 26:04
  Speaker 8: season than him, then it just makes jack Jackson Smith
• 26:07
  Speaker 8: and Jigba even better.
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: So, and I look, I.
• 26:10
  Speaker 8: Did the math, not Hermiston math, oh calculator, phone math,
• 26:15
  Speaker 8: and seven hundred and sixteen yards is how many he
• 26:19
  Speaker 8: would get if he kept his average over the next
• 26:21
  Speaker 8: six games.
• 26:22
  Speaker 7: And he wouldn't need what six hundred and forty you said.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: Shakes hundred and fifty one, six hundred and fifty one.
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 26:26
  Speaker 8: So he's had three games this season where he's had
• 26:29
  Speaker 8: under one hundred receiving yards. Two of them were against
• 26:31
  Speaker 8: Arizona and one was ninety six yards against the Saints.
• 26:35
  Speaker 8: Everything else has been over one hundred yards.
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: Well, and I think if you look, you know, dive
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: into the numbers. I don't think that the numbers always
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Because
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: of the fact that you just said a couple of
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: his games where he did an eclipse the hundred yard
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: mark was against Arizona. If you're blowing somebody out, then
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: you're not passing the ball. I mean for multiple reasons. One,
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: you're there's a respect factor typically, and then two, why
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: would you be you know, running Jackson Smith and Jigba
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: across the middle when you're up three scores against the
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: division rival, just so that somebody can try to take
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: a cheap shot or try to lay him out. That's
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: that wouldn't be smart at all. I am. I think Viking.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: I think there could be a good game against the Vikings.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: I think the Falcons have a porous secondary. The Colts
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: are like I think they might be trending down and
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: so you might catch them in a few weeks where
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: they're susceptible to that. They kind of they're more of
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: an offensive team. Yeah, they got a tough schedule. They're
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: gonna go out there and be getting beat around week
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: in and week out. They're not gonna have a bunch
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: the Rams. He goes off against the Rams. Even as
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: good as their defense is, he tends to go off
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: against them, and I think that it's gonna come down
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: to the wire. Obviously, all things considered, you have to
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: just stay healthy and go out there and keep playing
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: the way that you are, and Sam Darnold needs to
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: do the same. But I'm feeling pretty confident that he's
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: going to be We're gonna be having this conversation for
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: the next month and a half, and I hope that
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: he does it because he just seems like the type
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: of guy that is easy to cheer for.
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: Yeah. Absolutely, I'm looking forward to it.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: All right, Well, well we'll see that how that the
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: chase of Megatron continues. On the other side of this
• 28:08
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• 28:11
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• 28:14
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• 28:17
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• 28:21
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• 28:22
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  Speaker 6: Here's checking Buck.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Ah, welcome back to the program. It is Chucking Buck
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: in the morning minus Chuck. I'm interested to see how
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: our next guest is going to feel when there's no
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: Chucky here for him. Gene, how you know.
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: I'm doing well? Brother?
• 29:02
  Speaker 9: Hey, listen, he's not here, so take as many shots
• 29:06
  Speaker 9: as we can today. I mean, he's not here to
• 29:08
  Speaker 9: defend himself, Bucky. Let's go at it.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. I mean I think it would be
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: great on his time off if we were just to
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: follow him around like with a whistle, and you know
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: when he's doing like a walk and he all of
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: a sudden, it's like slow rolling across the crosswalk when
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: the red hand comes up, and we're like, hey, picking up,
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: pick up the pace. Let's go throw a flag on
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: him for stalling or something.
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: I like it. I like it.
• 29:34
  Speaker 9: We should throw a few flags on him as well, Bucky.
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: I think it's a great idea.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: Well, Jean, we have Geene's territory here, rules official. He
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: is a former NFL referee for many years. Everybody knows
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: who you are, and so I'll keep the introduction somewhat
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: short and sweet, but I am interested. I mean, with
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: this Thanksgiving schedule, we got games on Thursday on Thanksgiving Day,
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: and then Black Friday, and then you got college games
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: and all these big you know, rivalry games that are
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: coming down, and then Sunday and Monday night football as well.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: So I mean, are you basically working around the clock.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: Are you going to get any time to fit in
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: some turkey?
• 30:14
  Speaker 9: I don't know that I'm want to see the turkey
• 30:16
  Speaker 9: until probably next Monday, Bucky, which means there's maybe two
• 30:20
  Speaker 9: or three places.
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: Of that you know turkey breath.
• 30:22
  Speaker 9: It's pretty dry on the tupperware where you know, got
• 30:25
  Speaker 9: to ease a half a jarao to get it a
• 30:27
  Speaker 9: little bit, you know, get it back.
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: To where it needs to be.
• 30:30
  Speaker 9: But now I actually get to I am fortunate that
• 30:33
  Speaker 9: I get to go on locations for Thanksgiving.
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: We'll be with Jim, Tony.
• 30:37
  Speaker 9: And Tracy in Dallas for the Chiefs on Thursday, but
• 30:41
  Speaker 9: then off again Friday morning back to the CBS studios
• 30:44
  Speaker 9: in New York for two football games Friday, and then
• 30:46
  Speaker 9: another college football game Saturday, and then just for the
• 30:50
  Speaker 9: you know dessert of the Thanksgiving week, I think five
• 30:53
  Speaker 9: or six NFL games on Sundays.
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: So this a little bit of a busy week.
• 30:59
  Speaker 9: And then the most anxiety, truthfully, is that black bridy
• 31:03
  Speaker 9: does fall, I think somewhere in these four days. And
• 31:06
  Speaker 9: the wife has asked me to leave all three credit cards.
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: On the kitchen table before I think so.
• 31:13
  Speaker 9: If you hear that in my voice at some point
• 31:15
  Speaker 9: over the week, you'll know that it's not because I'm
• 31:17
  Speaker 9: worried about the play that I'm about.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: To rule on.
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: Uh huh.
• 31:20
  Speaker 9: I'm wondering why that third blink on my phone just
• 31:23
  Speaker 9: said that I've reached the maximum on the other credit card,
• 31:26
  Speaker 9: or I don't they just phoned to say, hey, if
• 31:29
  Speaker 9: somebody sold your credit cards, I'm gonna be like, yes, er.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm out of town, arrest that woman.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: That's that's that's funny. I'm with you on that, but
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: then again, it is what it is. Go ahead, I'll
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: be at home watching the football game, so go get
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: your Christmas shopping done. I suppose, well, I'm Jean. There
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: was there was a few things this weekend, not a ton,
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: but there was one in particular in the in the
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: Seahawks game that right when it happened, I was like, oh,
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: I can't wait to ask Jean that because the idea
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: of how difficult it is to play defense obviously in
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: the NFL nowadays, and I mean, I think it's always
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: been that way, but it does feel like that it
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: is a little bit more difficult the amount of hands
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: that you can or can't put on somebody before they're
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: going to throw a flag. And yet on the alternate
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: side of the offensive pass interference, we had a play
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: where Jackson Smith and Jake but who's having a historic
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: season at this point in time, he ended up kind
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: of and he does this great. I think it's just
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: a trick of the trade. And yet I want to
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: know from the referees perspective, where is the line drawn?
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: Because he had a play where is a deep ball
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: thrown you know, kind of dropped right in the bucket.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: But he's really good at slowing down and now all
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: of a sudden essentially using his body to defend or
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: deflect the defender away from him a little bit, and
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: then speeds up just a little bit and then he
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: just ever so subtly, he puts his hand out and
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: just says, yep, that's as close as you get to get,
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: knowing that the wall is gonna drop right out of
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: his fingertips reach. And so how how do you decipher
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: how much is a push off and how much is
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: just really good receiver play?
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 33:12
  Speaker 9: You know what, look great point And I really as
• 33:14
  Speaker 9: I watched that play and look at it too, you
• 33:19
  Speaker 9: just hit on all these elements. I think we talked
• 33:21
  Speaker 9: a little last week right hand fighting. Hand fighting, let
• 33:24
  Speaker 9: the player get his hand, push a little bit to
• 33:26
  Speaker 9: get the hands off, and it's that great area a
• 33:30
  Speaker 9: little where you do allow some separation to happen because
• 33:34
  Speaker 9: of the flavor of the play, and they're all unique.
• 33:37
  Speaker 9: And in this situation, I think you really worded it
• 33:39
  Speaker 9: perfectly because I always looked at it like, you know,
• 33:43
  Speaker 9: there is this little window where you're going to gain
• 33:46
  Speaker 9: a little bit of an advantage here because you have
• 33:48
  Speaker 9: mastered your craft so well. And if you even watch
• 33:51
  Speaker 9: JSN like he does it, it's not like he's pushing
• 33:54
  Speaker 9: a player off like up around the shoulder pads either.
• 33:57
  Speaker 9: Usually the really good ones is kind of right around
• 34:00
  Speaker 9: the waist. It's a low hand. It's not significant where
• 34:04
  Speaker 9: they have a complete arm extension. You don't see the
• 34:06
  Speaker 9: defensive player go back two or three steps, but you
• 34:10
  Speaker 9: see this just futtle little nudge and then it kind
• 34:12
  Speaker 9: of goes right from the nudge with the in the
• 34:14
  Speaker 9: handstart to go right up because he's time that nudge
• 34:18
  Speaker 9: so well that the football is inevitably a second away
• 34:21
  Speaker 9: as well, So it doesn't rise to that level of
• 34:25
  Speaker 9: materially really affecting this play. Like it doesn't jump off
• 34:28
  Speaker 9: the screen at you. But you see it and you're like, dude,
• 34:31
  Speaker 9: is there a little bit of separation right before the
• 34:34
  Speaker 9: ball got there? And then you'll watch the replay and
• 34:36
  Speaker 9: naturally we slow it down. It always looks worse and
• 34:39
  Speaker 9: you think, man, that's a push off, right. And but
• 34:42
  Speaker 9: then for me, in the way I know I referee
• 34:45
  Speaker 9: and the way I hope that our crew did week
• 34:47
  Speaker 9: in and week out, I think that edge is what
• 34:51
  Speaker 9: allows great players to be great without really taking advantage
• 34:55
  Speaker 9: or fouling in a very aggressive fashion, but just creating
• 35:00
  Speaker 9: minor advantage in huning the craft. And I think the
• 35:02
  Speaker 9: same should apply for d backs. He puts your arm
• 35:05
  Speaker 9: around the receiver's waist, you reach the other hand around.
• 35:08
  Speaker 9: I don't turn him, but I used his body for leverage,
• 35:11
  Speaker 9: but I didn't restrict anything. Let the defensive back get
• 35:14
  Speaker 9: that play in as well. So I think in that window,
• 35:18
  Speaker 9: I think what jays then did was he took everything
• 35:21
  Speaker 9: that I think by the letter of the law, maybe
• 35:25
  Speaker 9: he separates, but in the philosophy of the game, I
• 35:28
  Speaker 9: think he takes it right to that edge and wins
• 35:31
  Speaker 9: on a play that doesn't jump off the screen. And
• 35:33
  Speaker 9: I to me, I think those plays are really good
• 35:36
  Speaker 9: no calls. And I think that is one of the
• 35:39
  Speaker 9: things that when we try to train in.
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: Officials, it's not so much making.
• 35:43
  Speaker 9: The calls, he said, just the big ones.
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: You get.
• 35:46
  Speaker 9: The art is, at what point do we leave that
• 35:49
  Speaker 9: play alone, right and leave it as a no call
• 35:51
  Speaker 9: and let athletes be athletes. This play I thought fell
• 35:55
  Speaker 9: right to that level, and I'm glad they didn't throw
• 35:57
  Speaker 9: on it because I don't think it's I just don't
• 35:59
  Speaker 9: think it. The dback takes a little half step backward,
• 36:02
  Speaker 9: and yes, it's tiny bit of separation, but not enough.
• 36:06
  Speaker 9: Just we used to say in the trade, like it's
• 36:08
  Speaker 9: not big enough. Didn't feel big enough to me, but
• 36:11
  Speaker 9: a really great.
• 36:12
  Speaker 7: Play, Okay, Gene.
• 36:14
  Speaker 8: I'm curious then, because in hearing about you know, yes,
• 36:17
  Speaker 8: I do agree that defensive backs and wide receivers should
• 36:19
  Speaker 8: be able to give, you know, get those little benefits
• 36:23
  Speaker 8: to themselves in as long as you're not fully hampering
• 36:25
  Speaker 8: the person on the opposite side of the ball. Now,
• 36:27
  Speaker 8: last night in San Francisco's game, and at the end
• 36:30
  Speaker 8: of the Bengals game, I saw what I would have
• 36:34
  Speaker 8: thought probably could have been called as past interference, especially
• 36:36
  Speaker 8: it was the last play of the Bengals game. Mike
• 36:39
  Speaker 8: de Ski falls to the ground before the ball even
• 36:42
  Speaker 8: I think it was before the ball even got there,
• 36:44
  Speaker 8: and there was a no call. I didn't know if
• 36:45
  Speaker 8: maybe because it's the end of the game, are they
• 36:47
  Speaker 8: just kind of allowing a little bit more, you know,
• 36:51
  Speaker 8: of a little bit more from the defense, a little
• 36:53
  Speaker 8: bit more from the offense because you don't want that
• 36:55
  Speaker 8: call to be the call that changes the game.
• 36:58
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean it's fair. I think the hell Mary play.
• 37:02
  Speaker 9: We always have allowed much more boxing out and pushing
• 37:06
  Speaker 9: when you see their score or five players near the
• 37:08
  Speaker 9: end zone, like boxing each other out and going up
• 37:12
  Speaker 9: to this ball. So I do think there's a little
• 37:14
  Speaker 9: more that happens there the play that you're referring to
• 37:17
  Speaker 9: at the end of the Bengals game. Only thing I
• 37:20
  Speaker 9: could say in defense of the officials is the receiver like,
• 37:24
  Speaker 9: I think there's interference. I think it's a past interference play.
• 37:28
  Speaker 9: I always try to teleport Downalder though, and try to
• 37:30
  Speaker 9: remember what it was like in that split second moment.
• 37:32
  Speaker 9: Now does the receivers the ball a little behind him?
• 37:34
  Speaker 9: Does he lose his seat a little as that contact
• 37:37
  Speaker 9: taking place? Not that I'm looking for reason not to
• 37:41
  Speaker 9: call it, but you want to try to digest everything
• 37:43
  Speaker 9: before you make that decision. But with all of that said,
• 37:48
  Speaker 9: it wasn't the best drone ball, but I do think
• 37:51
  Speaker 9: there was enough contact there, truthfully by the defensive player
• 37:55
  Speaker 9: to warrant that flag. And look at the one thing
• 38:00
  Speaker 9: that officials always have to stay true to it and
• 38:03
  Speaker 9: it's just something that you must must embrace, is Look,
• 38:06
  Speaker 9: the first preseason game has to be officiated in that
• 38:09
  Speaker 9: same philosophy as the Super Bowl does.
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: Because you can't.
• 38:13
  Speaker 9: You can't play time and score or value of when
• 38:17
  Speaker 9: I'm going to make this call or not. You get
• 38:20
  Speaker 9: into this fine window you hope of what we're going
• 38:23
  Speaker 9: to allow happen and what we're not going to allow
• 38:25
  Speaker 9: to happen. And the one thing I will say from
• 38:28
  Speaker 9: all coaches, players and anybody that I really respected in
• 38:31
  Speaker 9: this game, the only word that they use to me
• 38:35
  Speaker 9: always was will you just stay consistent? Just make it consistent,
• 38:40
  Speaker 9: because when we know what you're going to do, then
• 38:44
  Speaker 9: we can adjust. But if you're all over the place
• 38:47
  Speaker 9: where you let this one go at the end of
• 38:48
  Speaker 9: the game, that you called this on the end of
• 38:50
  Speaker 9: the second quarter, now you've hurt the integrity of the
• 38:54
  Speaker 9: game and the way that we can play it. And
• 38:56
  Speaker 9: I think that's where the challenges are. And then again,
• 38:59
  Speaker 9: as you say, if it falls in the last play
• 39:01
  Speaker 9: of the game, it didn't extend, you would have had
• 39:03
  Speaker 9: a defensive file there. It wasn't going to be the
• 39:05
  Speaker 9: difference between the game and not. At that point, you were.
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: Just going to give them another play.
• 39:10
  Speaker 9: But a foul is a foul, right, And I think
• 39:13
  Speaker 9: you need to live in that window, and at certain
• 39:15
  Speaker 9: times you've got to throw everything else out the door
• 39:18
  Speaker 9: and work the play. But I thought it was passing
• 39:21
  Speaker 9: the appearance I did well.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: Gene that's okay. So I kind of want to tie
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: into that a little more because you were you were
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: just talking, and I agree one hundred percent. You can't
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: to be like, well, this is not that much on
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: this play, so I'm not going to throw a flag
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: or vice versa this end of the game. I have
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: to or it's in the game. I can't. You can't
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: do that, So I'm with you. And yet a second ago,
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: when we were kind of talking about the nuance of
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: how you call a game when it's is that offensive?
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: Is it a push off? Or did it affect the game?
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: You were talking about how like a dB if he's
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: got his hand on a guy's hip and then brings
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: the other hand around to deflect the ball, as long
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: as he's not turning him is how difficult is it?
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: Then?
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: From your standpoint, because we had a guy here, Tyler Lockett,
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: was a master at getting flags thrown because he was
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: slight built, so when he would feel something one he
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: couldn't play through it. If a guy tugged on him
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: a little bit, it was going to slow him down
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: and possibly turn his body, and he would embellish it.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: He would make sure that it was blatant Now a
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: guy like DK Metcalf or a tight end like the
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: case we were just talking about that can it takes
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: a whole heck of a lot more of a tug
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: for it to turn the guy's body. How difficult is
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: that from your perspective to recognize whether or not a
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: guy's flopping because you can have an offensive pi where
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: if a DB's real good, when he feels that push
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: off just a little bit, then he throws his hands
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: up and jumps off to the side and all of
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: a sudden, it looks like it jumped off the page
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: or jumped off the screen at you versus somebody that
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: is bigger and he can just kind of play through
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: it a little bit more.
• 40:58
  Speaker 9: That's that's really difficult. I mean you, this is Those
• 41:02
  Speaker 9: are the things that challenge you as an official. I
• 41:04
  Speaker 9: know as a referee. See I started my career first
• 41:07
  Speaker 9: two or three years downfield. I did deal with these
• 41:09
  Speaker 9: plays and your right different stature creates different pieces of
• 41:14
  Speaker 9: what you think is materially affecting the player or the
• 41:18
  Speaker 9: play enough to warrant that flag.
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: And yes, certain bigger athletes.
• 41:22
  Speaker 9: My bigger challenge is to the majority of my career,
• 41:25
  Speaker 9: where you would have a quarterback back there that was
• 41:28
  Speaker 9: a six foot four to two hundred and forty pound quarterback,
• 41:31
  Speaker 9: and then the other team would have, you know, five ten,
• 41:36
  Speaker 9: one hundred and eighty pound quarterback. You know, where when
• 41:40
  Speaker 9: is it roughing? You know, when do you stop the play,
• 41:43
  Speaker 9: whether you blow the whistle, Do I let the big
• 41:46
  Speaker 9: guy get hit for that, I'm letting the smaller statute
• 41:49
  Speaker 9: quarterback get hit or things of that nature. So there's
• 41:52
  Speaker 9: a lot of different elements that go into each play,
• 41:56
  Speaker 9: the players that are involved. It doesn't mean that you're
• 41:59
  Speaker 9: allowing people to foul.
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: Bigger players more.
• 42:03
  Speaker 9: But then you also watch and I think what you
• 42:05
  Speaker 9: just said about Lockett is one of the things that
• 42:07
  Speaker 9: was so hard to do, and that is, at some point,
• 42:10
  Speaker 9: athletes are still going to try to make a play
• 42:13
  Speaker 9: up until this point where maybe in that split second
• 42:17
  Speaker 9: in their mind they realize, no matter what I do,
• 42:19
  Speaker 9: I can't make the play. And they're in that little
• 42:23
  Speaker 9: split second comes that soccer embellishment.
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 42:26
  Speaker 9: It's like the defensive end that's getting a little bit
• 42:29
  Speaker 9: held on the edge and he's fighting like heck to
• 42:31
  Speaker 9: get off of this block to get this runner that's
• 42:34
  Speaker 9: going to go right around him, and then he realizes
• 42:36
  Speaker 9: I can't make it there. So what does he do?
• 42:38
  Speaker 9: All of a sudden his both hands go up in
• 42:40
  Speaker 9: the air. He acts like he was just accosted on
• 42:43
  Speaker 9: the street or something, and you're thinking, dude, like.
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: A second to go.
• 42:47
  Speaker 9: You know, you were engaged in a really tough huscle
• 42:51
  Speaker 9: and all of a sudden.
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: You look like you were just completely overwhelmed.
• 42:55
  Speaker 9: Those are tough things to officiate. You try to manage that.
• 42:59
  Speaker 9: You try to continuously put all the things we're talking
• 43:02
  Speaker 9: about into that. Look, if you flopped, I can't bless
• 43:06
  Speaker 9: you on it. I would do it in hoops an
• 43:08
  Speaker 9: awful lot, like a basketball player would come up and
• 43:10
  Speaker 9: get bumped a little and put his head back ord
• 43:13
  Speaker 9: like I really got hit, trying to embellish that contact
• 43:16
  Speaker 9: and create a foul. And my conversations with players like
• 43:19
  Speaker 9: that on both sports that I worked where don't do
• 43:22
  Speaker 9: that because if you do that and you're really good
• 43:25
  Speaker 9: at it and I think you're embellishing, then that next
• 43:28
  Speaker 9: play is going to happen where you are going to
• 43:30
  Speaker 9: get filed and I'm going to probably pass on.
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: It, you know what I mean. And now you're not
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: going to get what you should get.
• 43:36
  Speaker 9: So I always try to at least manage or minimize
• 43:40
  Speaker 9: those opportunities for them to do it, I guess by
• 43:43
  Speaker 9: scaring them into if you're such a good actor, when
• 43:46
  Speaker 9: you really do get filed, I'm not good enough to
• 43:49
  Speaker 9: decipher between the two. So how about we just try
• 43:51
  Speaker 9: to play through every play.
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: The right way and then let me make my judgments
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: based on that.
• 43:56
  Speaker 9: But it is a difficult process to do, and at
• 43:59
  Speaker 9: times you get tricked by it, right, I mean, you're human,
• 44:03
  Speaker 9: and it's fast, and I always hated it from a
• 44:06
  Speaker 9: grading perspective too, Bucky, because with that delon that it
• 44:10
  Speaker 9: put his hands up, you knew that the person grading
• 44:13
  Speaker 9: your game the next day was going to look at
• 44:14
  Speaker 9: that play maybe a little closer, you know, like like
• 44:19
  Speaker 9: there is a hole there, you.
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: Know, or something to that effect. But it's not easy
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: to do.
• 44:23
  Speaker 9: But it's something you continuously try to train on and
• 44:26
  Speaker 9: be able to have those micro second reactions as a
• 44:29
  Speaker 9: result of it.
• 44:30
  Speaker 8: Geane, just a quick one before we let you go,
• 44:32
  Speaker 8: because I was watching the Dallas Philadelphia game, as I
• 44:34
  Speaker 8: think a lot of people were a very interesting game,
• 44:37
  Speaker 8: but there was a rough k the kicker penalty called
• 44:39
  Speaker 8: on the punt, and that gave Philadelphia the first down.
• 44:43
  Speaker 8: The Dallas leof who I think was his name, he
• 44:47
  Speaker 8: was adamant. I touched the ball. I touched the ball.
• 44:49
  Speaker 8: He went over to the sideline. He's, you know, scraping
• 44:51
  Speaker 8: his fingers. I got my fingertips on it. Dallas doesn't
• 44:53
  Speaker 8: do anything. Is that even challengeable? Could they have thrown
• 44:56
  Speaker 8: a challenge flag that he tipped that ball?
• 44:59
  Speaker 9: Yes, touching of the kick, touching of a pass is challengeable. Also,
• 45:04
  Speaker 9: that's a play that New York can weigh in on
• 45:08
  Speaker 9: rather quickly if they see it and expedite the review
• 45:11
  Speaker 9: and say there is no file for roughing the kicker
• 45:13
  Speaker 9: because the player that did rough the kicker potentially did also.
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: Touch the football.
• 45:19
  Speaker 9: These are the additional challenges no pun intended with all
• 45:23
  Speaker 9: of it, that the entire sporting world is starting to
• 45:27
  Speaker 9: deal with, and that is we like the fact that
• 45:30
  Speaker 9: we have more technology.
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: We like the fact that we're.
• 45:33
  Speaker 9: Getting more of these things right because they are hard,
• 45:36
  Speaker 9: and I think a lot of us understand that they
• 45:38
  Speaker 9: are hard and technology can help us get it right.
• 45:41
  Speaker 9: But I also think we're on that little edge we
• 45:44
  Speaker 9: can't just add technology because we have a new shiny
• 45:48
  Speaker 9: object to use in a new toy.
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: The end of the the.
• 45:51
  Speaker 9: End of the day, increasing technology is only good under
• 45:55
  Speaker 9: one circumstance, and that's if it makes the game better,
• 45:57
  Speaker 9: not if it makes the game slower, more shop be
• 46:00
  Speaker 9: more confusing. If officials then don't feel comfortable making splitnick
• 46:05
  Speaker 9: second decisions because of the ramifications of that decision that
• 46:09
  Speaker 9: could be changed or not changed as a result of technology.
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: So we are living in that world. So you have
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: this tip.
• 46:17
  Speaker 9: Now a player is looking at you on the field
• 46:19
  Speaker 9: as a ref. And players aren't always honest, right, I mean,
• 46:22
  Speaker 9: they're always interfered with they get up, they're human, they're
• 46:25
  Speaker 9: trying to sell something. But now this player gets up
• 46:28
  Speaker 9: and says, I tipped it.
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: I tipped it. Believe me.
• 46:30
  Speaker 9: Everyone in New York is scrubbing every angle they can
• 46:33
  Speaker 9: as quickly as they possibly can. And I think there
• 46:35
  Speaker 9: were a few articles that actually said, look, they didn't
• 46:37
  Speaker 9: see the enhance you. This was a something came from
• 46:40
  Speaker 9: the NFL, right, But two plays later Fox broadcast puts
• 46:43
  Speaker 9: other than enhance view, they see the tip. It's too late,
• 46:46
  Speaker 9: or the coach could have challenged it. Yeah, you know,
• 46:50
  Speaker 9: that's these are these things.
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: We're living with and as we go.
• 46:53
  Speaker 9: Through this, adding more technology more four K Is this better.
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: For the game? Is it not for the game?
• 47:00
  Speaker 9: But yeah, in that situation, New York could have fixed
• 47:03
  Speaker 9: it had they seen it rather quickly, or to you,
• 47:06
  Speaker 9: that time frame between the next snap and if the
• 47:09
  Speaker 9: coach is trusting the player, who's over there adamantly saying listen,
• 47:13
  Speaker 9: trust me, man, throw the flag here.
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: I touched this.
• 47:17
  Speaker 9: That's the decision they have to make. So they're making
• 47:19
  Speaker 9: calls over there as well, you know, coaches as to
• 47:22
  Speaker 9: whether to pull their red flag out or not. But
• 47:24
  Speaker 9: it was reviewable by that if they so weren't trying to.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: Do so interesting All right, well, Gene, it's been it's
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: been real man, and happy Thanksgiving to you. I am interested.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: I mean you you're not going to get your turkey
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: for a minute, because you're working thirty seven games to
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: be able to afford your wife's Black Friday shopping. But
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: if you do, if you have your preference, are you
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: just a regular baked turkey? Are you a deep fried
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: turkey guy? Smoked turkey guy? What's your preference?
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: You know?
• 47:54
  Speaker 9: I was always a traditional guy, and then you know,
• 47:56
  Speaker 9: like three or four years ago, it was like, dude,
• 47:58
  Speaker 9: you put this thing in holloway, it cooks in ten minutes.
• 48:01
  Speaker 9: You don't have to sit in there with that thermometer
• 48:03
  Speaker 9: in the turkey's bot cooking the temperature all the time,
• 48:06
  Speaker 9: and a frage you're not cooking it through.
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: And then this.
• 48:09
  Speaker 9: Beautiful social media shows after I watched a few explosions
• 48:13
  Speaker 9: here over the last two days, you know, on the
• 48:16
  Speaker 9: social sites on what happens if the oil's too hot,
• 48:19
  Speaker 9: you drop the turkey. And I don't know if I
• 48:22
  Speaker 9: can do that one buck. You know, there was one
• 48:23
  Speaker 9: out there that had the firemen all full geared with
• 48:26
  Speaker 9: a big extension pole dipping the turkey in that I
• 48:30
  Speaker 9: think I would do only for the entertainment of it.
• 48:32
  Speaker 9: I'm not sure that I'm you know, dig into that bird,
• 48:35
  Speaker 9: but I wouldn't mind seeing that happen kind of from
• 48:38
  Speaker 9: a distance, you know. I'd like to be a spectator.
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: On that one. But I'm an old school guy.
• 48:42
  Speaker 9: I mean, let's cook it, make it last all day,
• 48:45
  Speaker 9: and and let's all sleep on the couch for forty
• 48:48
  Speaker 9: eight hours after we gorge ourselves and everything on the table.
• 48:52
  Speaker 9: I mean, that's that's just kind of how I.
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: Roll with it.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: I'm with you one hundred percent. And by the way,
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: tip from a three hundred plus pound guy, if you
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: do piece of that dry turkey breast from four or
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: five days old, you don't have to just go mayonnaise.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: That's if you're putting on a sandwich, you just got
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: to put some extra gravy on it. Enough gravy helps
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: everything out and they will no longer be dry.
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: It's all about the gravy. Isn't a monkey about the grave?
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: Yep, solves it every time.
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: Got tip about Freds. I believe you.
• 49:21
  Speaker 9: I believe you, and I will take that tip and
• 49:23
  Speaker 9: I'll let you know how that goes.
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: We'll go extra gravy on Monday, all right, Jane.
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: Well, thank you very much and have a happy Thanksgiving.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back to the show. It is Bucky Jacobson and
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: Ashley Ryan sans Chuck. He has enjoyed Turkey and decorating
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: for Christmas prematurely, that's what he does this time of year,
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: and he needed to take time off to do so,
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: so good for him. We've had a lot to talk
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: about today, but this is our first time getting to
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: discuss the new team in town, but one of my
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: favorite teams in town. And as far as I'm concerned,
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: thanksgiving his time for comfort food and this guy is
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: comfort food for your ears. Everett fits you the voice
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: of the Seattle Crack And how you doing, brother.
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: I'm doing well. Thank you very much for that wonderful intro.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: Well, it's true, do you do realize that, I mean,
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: you don't put me to sl like trip to fan
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: and Turkey does. But it's like, you know how you
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: have like a nice bowl of soup on a rainy
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: fall day, and you're just like, oh, you need cozy
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: up in the chair here and watch a game Like
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: That's basically when I hear your voice, I'm like, this
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: is it right here? Comfort food for my ear drones.
• 51:17
  Speaker 11: It's very calming and relaxing.
• 51:20
  Speaker 5: I appreciate that, thank you.
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Both facts are facts, man. All right, well, let's
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: dive into what we witnessed over the weekend kind of
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: a I was explaining it on yesterday about kind of
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: a weird weekend where you got points and I suppose
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: I'm not I shouldn't be greedy. You got points in
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: both games of a back to back, the first one
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: overtime win and then an overtime loss in the shootout.
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: It was kind of a win and a loss, but
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: it felt both of them felt distinctly different, and yet
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: it really is just a one point difference in the
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: whole thing. How'd you feel about the back to back
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: on Saturday and Sunday?
• 51:57
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, I think for first Seattle, the big
• 52:01
  Speaker 11: thing was you're you're trying to snap that that streak
• 52:06
  Speaker 11: of not winning game two of a back to back,
• 52:10
  Speaker 11: and I think over the last year plus. On the
• 52:13
  Speaker 11: Sunday game along the Island, that was the closest best
• 52:16
  Speaker 11: team's ever come and then the best I think they've
• 52:19
  Speaker 11: played in that situation. It's never easy in this league
• 52:23
  Speaker 11: to play back to backs, just given the travel, given
• 52:27
  Speaker 11: all that goes into to it. But I felt really
• 52:30
  Speaker 11: good about how the team played over the weekend.
• 52:32
  Speaker 5: I feel like in the past, that.
• 52:35
  Speaker 11: Game on Sunday could have gone an entirely different direction.
• 52:40
  Speaker 11: That game could have gotten pretty squirrely pretty fast. But
• 52:43
  Speaker 11: the fact that you were able to limit the Islanders
• 52:47
  Speaker 11: in their chances. Guba or a decord was phenomenal, stopping
• 52:51
  Speaker 11: thirty four shots that he faced. And the weird quirk
• 52:55
  Speaker 11: about hockey is that even though he took the shootout loss,
• 52:59
  Speaker 11: he's still got credited with a shutout in that game.
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: So to come.
• 53:03
  Speaker 11: Back to be the last line of defense and to
• 53:06
  Speaker 11: shut down the Islanders in the way that he did,
• 53:09
  Speaker 11: you know, I thought that was absolutely phenomenal. I felt
• 53:12
  Speaker 11: the trip overall there were probably more way more ups
• 53:16
  Speaker 11: and positives than there were downs. You're down to nothing
• 53:20
  Speaker 11: to Chicago on Thursday, you come back with three in
• 53:24
  Speaker 11: the third the first time in cracking history that a
• 53:27
  Speaker 11: team has trailed by two or more goals going into
• 53:31
  Speaker 11: the third period and have come.
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: Back to win in regulation.
• 53:35
  Speaker 11: And then I think against the Penguins team that's off
• 53:37
  Speaker 11: to a pretty good start despite what a lot of
• 53:41
  Speaker 11: people have thought about them, you go into their building
• 53:44
  Speaker 11: and you pick up a victories overall, you take five
• 53:47
  Speaker 11: of the eight points on the road trip, you're happy
• 53:50
  Speaker 11: with it. That's been the mo of this team all year.
• 53:53
  Speaker 11: They've picked up points when they needed to. They've won
• 53:57
  Speaker 11: more than they've lost. They've gotten more points than and
• 54:01
  Speaker 11: than not over certain stretches. And now here we are
• 54:04
  Speaker 11: at a pretty important time of the season, sitting pretty
• 54:08
  Speaker 11: pretty fairly in a playoff spot.
• 54:10
  Speaker 8: Okay, Everett, I do have to ask just going back
• 54:12
  Speaker 8: to this back to back thing, because obviously I don't
• 54:15
  Speaker 8: what has it been like fourteen or thirteen games.
• 54:17
  Speaker 7: That they've had that they've lost the second I might
• 54:20
  Speaker 7: have just oh fifteen, okay from.
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: Their last seventeen game twos of.
• 54:26
  Speaker 7: Back to back, So that's yeah, that's that's not great.
• 54:29
  Speaker 8: And I just I mean, the crazy thing is though
• 54:31
  Speaker 8: this last Sunday, as I'm watching that game, and you
• 54:34
  Speaker 8: know they're they're now going to the shootout after zero
• 54:37
  Speaker 8: zero just just a phenomenal defensive game, phenomenal efforts by
• 54:41
  Speaker 8: both goalies all game long. And then they go into
• 54:43
  Speaker 8: the shootout and they have to even add the extra
• 54:47
  Speaker 8: because they've you know, they're still even, they're still tied.
• 54:49
  Speaker 8: And I'm thinking to myself, if any there's any time
• 54:52
  Speaker 8: that they could win that second back to back, it's now.
• 54:56
  Speaker 8: They can't get any closer to winning the second back
• 54:59
  Speaker 8: to backs.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: Now, what, listen?
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: I mean eighteen times the charm?
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: I guess, okay, all right, that's the same. I'm sure
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: it's the same. Somewhere.
• 55:09
  Speaker 7: I've heard that before.
• 55:10
  Speaker 11: Yeah, no, the eighteenth fool me one, shame on you,
• 55:13
  Speaker 11: and and then fool me seventeen or more times.
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: No, listen, yep.
• 55:20
  Speaker 11: It's it's one of those weird quirks, actually, you know.
• 55:23
  Speaker 5: And it's it's I can't explain it.
• 55:26
  Speaker 11: And and I remember last season, sitting on the bus
• 55:30
  Speaker 11: the last road game of the year, me and John
• 55:32
  Speaker 11: Foreslan and Al and JT were sitting there spashing our
• 55:36
  Speaker 11: heads and we're like, John has been doing this for
• 55:38
  Speaker 11: thirty plus years, and he goes, I've never seen this before.
• 55:41
  Speaker 11: I don't understand what what it is why this team
• 55:45
  Speaker 11: can't win the second game of back to back. And listen,
• 55:48
  Speaker 11: at the end of the day, you're going to lose games.
• 55:52
  Speaker 11: No one's ever going to go oh and eighty or
• 55:54
  Speaker 11: eighty two and oh and and it is, you know,
• 55:58
  Speaker 11: another game. And I think a bigger, large view of this,
• 56:05
  Speaker 11: a twenty thousand foot view of this. Is it that
• 56:08
  Speaker 11: big of a deal? Probably not, but it just it's
• 56:11
  Speaker 11: such a glaring number. And I'm with you. I think
• 56:15
  Speaker 11: this is they played as well as they could have.
• 56:18
  Speaker 11: I even go back to the game in Dallas earlier
• 56:21
  Speaker 11: this year where they lost to to one on the
• 56:23
  Speaker 11: second game on the back to back after a game
• 56:25
  Speaker 11: in Saint Louis, and I remember saying, man, that was
• 56:28
  Speaker 11: the best game to effort that I've seen in over
• 56:31
  Speaker 11: a year. Well then you fast forward to this past
• 56:33
  Speaker 11: Sunday night, and I'm saying the same thing. You you
• 56:36
  Speaker 11: cannot get any closer to winning game two of a
• 56:40
  Speaker 11: back to back than a one nothing shootout loss in
• 56:45
  Speaker 11: which you scored one goal in the shootout. They scored
• 56:48
  Speaker 11: two goals in the shootout. So again, it cannot get
• 56:52
  Speaker 11: any closer. So I'm just gonna go back to that
• 56:55
  Speaker 11: age old saying eighteen times at char Well.
• 57:00
  Speaker 7: Got four more chances to do it in the next
• 57:02
  Speaker 7: six weeks. Four more back to that games in the
• 57:04
  Speaker 7: next six weeks.
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, well, hey, Fitz, any chance we can
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: see Jared mccannon in this game tomorrow against the Dallas Stars.
• 57:15
  Speaker 11: You never say never. I will say he did go
• 57:17
  Speaker 11: on this last road trip. He was a very active
• 57:20
  Speaker 11: member in practice. He was taking regular line rushes and shifts.
• 57:26
  Speaker 11: You know, I've seen him walk around the team in
• 57:30
  Speaker 11: the locker room area and he looks fine. Obviously, looking
• 57:34
  Speaker 11: fine in your street clothes is a lot different than
• 57:36
  Speaker 11: on the ice. I think he's looked good on the ice.
• 57:39
  Speaker 11: Hopefully today during or after practice, will have an update
• 57:43
  Speaker 11: on Jared McCann. But he did go on the trip.
• 57:45
  Speaker 11: He was skating with the team, He was active with
• 57:48
  Speaker 11: the team. So I mean, I'm hoping that he's back tomorrow.
• 57:53
  Speaker 11: But I was also hoping that he would be back
• 57:55
  Speaker 11: on this last road trip because he went with the team,
• 57:57
  Speaker 11: and obviously he didn't go. So hopefully later today we'll
• 58:01
  Speaker 11: have an update on him.
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: All right, Well, from all of us here to you
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: and all of yours Happy Thanksgiving because you are you
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: are the gravy of crack and hockey. I mean, we
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: just put you on anything and you make it better.
• 58:15
  Speaker 11: Well, thank you, thank you very much, and have your
• 58:17
  Speaker 11: Thanksgiving to you. Happy Thanksgiving to all the listeners out there.
• 58:21
  Speaker 11: And I think most importantly, let's go Lions.
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: Okay, don't. I don't know if that was the way
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: we should have ended this, but okay, cut him, cut them,
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: cut the mic.
• 58:34
  Speaker 11: Who doesn't love nine am hockey, who doesn't arn football?
• 58:37
  Speaker 11: Nine am football?
• 58:38
  Speaker 5: On Thursday?
• 58:39
  Speaker 11: You're up and the Lions are gonna play and definitely
• 58:41
  Speaker 11: get off.
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: The So I have to start eating is when that
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: kickoff happens. I have to start eating. I can't stop
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: until Monday. You too, Yep, yep, You'll be right there
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: all weekend. All right, well, Fitzy, I appreciate it. Man,
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: I have a great Thanksgiving.
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: But you two guys take care all right?
• 59:01
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• 59:03
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• 59:05
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• 59:10
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  Speaker 12: Happy Thanksgiving to you, Bucky. I'm doing fine. We got
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 12: the last week of the college football season. We got
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 12: the CFP getting ready to announce what that looks like
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 12: tonight we'll see where if anything changed. Not much in
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 12: the way of movement in terms of wins and losses,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 12: but some power moves. I'm anxious to see if Notre
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 12: Dame goes past Oklahoma tonight with the heels of a
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 12: seventy seven bludgeoning of Syracuse. They remain ahead of Miami
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 12: even though Miami beat them, So that's kind of an
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 12: interesting thing how far Vanderbilt's off the pace. Vanderbilt has
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 12: a chance to win ten games for the first time
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 12: in school history. They're the only Power four team that's
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 12: never won ten, so that's kind of fascinating as they
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 12: get ready to go to Neeland Stadium and Knoxville. Yeah,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 12: lots going on, and then you saw that the CFP
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 12: and ESPN extend the deadline. No longer is it December one.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 12: We're actually going to wait till January twenty third to
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 12: see if we're going to change the format, which allows
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 12: the two commissioners, Greg Sankee and Tony Petiti to do
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 12: a little horse trading as to how they're going to
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 12: do this. And I think we might blow right past
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 12: sixteen teams, Bucky, we might get all the way to
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 12: twenty four by January twenty third.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: Wow, I mean, I guess yeah, because that's the main
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: hang up there is whether or not it's automatic bids
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: or whatnot, Right, I mean, the SEC and Big ten
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: are at odds to some degree about how that whole
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: thing would work if it's just five conference champs and
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: a bunch at large, or if there's automatic bids. And
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: you're saying, if if they do delay this and come
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: to a liking agreement between both of them, you think
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: it's going to be because they get all the way
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: to twenty four teams.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 12: Huh, Well, here's what just happened today. You know, there's
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 12: this basketball tournament going on in Las Vegas where they're
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 12: actually paying the players. The money's up for nil, right,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 12: and so the winning teams are going to get an
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 12: extra bucket of cash. And so everybody's kind of interested
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 12: in this tournament, right because it's the future of college athletics.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 12: I mean, we're paying players. So the Big twelve just
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 12: took a fifteen percent stake in this tournament. It's called
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 12: the Players Era Tournament. It remains to be seen at
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 12: the SEC and the Big ten and the ACC are
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 12: going to follow suit. But if they do, you can
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 12: see where that model could extend to the college football world.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 12: And if that happens, then you could see where as
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 12: everybody's looking for more money, we're aware that you know,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 12: the University of Calorie, California pension fund is offering an
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 12: excess of two billion dollars to the Big ten one
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 12: hundred million dollars at least personol and to become a
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 12: partner of the Big tent and then get their principal
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 12: back in twenty forty four and then I've obviously earned
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 12: a bunch of money between now and then. It's fascinating
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 12: to see if that model doesn't extend. As we're looking
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 12: at this basketball tournament might not make sense at the
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 12: CFP level where the two commissioners can't determine how you're
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 12: going to get teams in. Well, it won't be as
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 12: much a big deal if most of your teams get in,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 12: and that twenty fourteen field would make sure that we're
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 12: not excluding a usc this year. We're not excluding a
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 12: Vanderbilt this year. You know, you can see where they're
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 12: getting excited about that. And if there's some private money
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 12: that goes along with it, maybe that solved some of
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 12: the economic issues facing all these athletic directors. Just an
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 12: incredibly interesting time to follow college athletics coach.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 8: Do you worry at although that this is another example
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 8: of college football getting ahead of themselves, because I mean,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 8: so far in the last years we've had, you know,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 8: the transfer portal out of control, and NIL has just
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 8: kind of, you know, gotten massive, and we've got these
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 8: coaches that they're opting to leave and all of these
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 8: things that it's kind of seems like they let it
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 8: get ahead of itself and then they've got to rein
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 8: it back. It seems like by going from having a
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 8: year of a college football playoff two before the second
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 8: one is done, expanding it to twenty four would be
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 8: another example of them getting ahead of themselves.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 12: First of all, let me just say I'm guessing why
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 12: they're doing this. Yeah, obviously obviously they want to earn
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 12: more money, right, so to leave it at twelve teams,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 12: they get no more money. The question is will ESPN
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 12: pay more money for just four more games? And the
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 12: answers probably know they already signed the deal. It's like
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 12: Brian Kelly right now in LSU. They keep wanting him
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 12: to take less and he said, no, I signed the deal,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 12: you owe me this money. And so now they're threatening
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 12: all this you know, stuff that they have dirt on
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 12: him or what have you's going to embarrass him. It's
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 12: unseemly and it's embarrassing, but it's happening. So what we
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 12: have to do is figure out exactly what's best for
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 12: college athletics because college football. What's best for college football
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 12: is also best for college athletics because it pays the
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 12: preate for the rest of it. But it's fascinating, And
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 12: you mentioned the calendar. Actually, the calendar is ridiculous. We
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 12: have to change the calendar. We right now have Lane
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 12: Kiffin sitting there at Old Miss getting ready to coach
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 12: an egg bull on Friday, and he won't tell us
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 12: whether he's either going to be along for the ride,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 12: assuming may win in their favor to do so, if
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 12: he's going to be along for the ride in the
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 12: college football playoff, be the best season in the history
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 12: of Old Miss, And he won't tell us if he's
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 12: even going to stay there. He may take the LSU job.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 12: I just told you how embarrassing that situation is. He
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 12: may take the Florida job, which has also got a
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 12: lawsuit right now by a former recruit by the name
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 12: of Jaden Rashada, who's suing Billy Napier, the old coach,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 12: and the school for offering a big ton of money
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 12: for him to come there as a recruit and then
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 12: renigging on the deal. That lawsuit is still pending, so
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 12: we have we have so many issues, but it's all
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 12: because of this calendar. This calendar, there's on December third,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 12: We're going to sign recruiting classes. On December third through
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 12: the seventeenth, there's going to be finals on campus, and
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 12: then you've got championship games, and then you've got college
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 12: football playoff games, and then you've got a transfer portal.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 12: Before we even get to the semi finals of this deal,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 12: a transfer portal opens where players can come and go,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 12: just like coaches are coming and going. Now, it's nonsensical
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 12: and we've got to get our arms around it. And
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 12: I hope somebody comes to their senses that has some
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 12: clouds to do something about it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm with you one hundred percent. I mean, the big
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: picture just seems it's like, oh my gosh, there could
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: be chaos, and yet you know they'll find a way
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: to survive. I mean, it's just too bad.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 12: Well, the problem, the problem, Bucky, is it's obscuring what
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 12: we spent all this time working towards, which is our
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 12: college football playoffs. Right we are basically making that the
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 12: least interesting story. We'd rather talk about where the coaches
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 12: are going, what players are leading. You know Sam Lovitt,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 12: the quarterback at Arizona State, He led the Sun Devils
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 12: to the incredible season a year ago where they made
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 12: the College Football Playoff and had Texas absolutely on the
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 12: brink of extinction. Right they were had at fourth and
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 12: thirteen in the Peach Bowl. Matthew Gold makes the catch
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 12: in Texas somehow survived, but Sam Lovitt was a hero.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 12: He and Cam Skataboo or the you know the big
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 12: names of the Sun Devils. Well, he's hurt loss for
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 12: the season, but the word at Arizona State is he's
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 12: now taking a deal, whether it be with James Franklin
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 12: a Virginia Tech, or to be the guy who replaces
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 12: Carson Beck at Miami for somewhere around eight million bucks.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 12: Holy smoked, what are we doing. We can't afford it.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 12: And we just have to get some arms around this,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 12: whether it be through collective barting or common sense, and
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 12: right now we don't have either.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: I hear you, and yet I do want to get
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: your take on the more granular the thing that is
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: important at this point in time, beyond all of this
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: stuff that's happening outside, which is the college football playoffs
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: tonight we get another version of the college Football Playoff
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: rankings leading up to that selection Sunday here in a
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: few weeks. But are you seeing any shakeup? Is this
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: the year that Indiana or the week that Indiana gets
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: maybe leap frog by A and M is this? Could
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: Oregon be moving up? There's probably some shake up down
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: there at the bottom in the eleven and twelve spots too,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: wouldn't you think?
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 12: I think we'll see if they the impressive Oregon win
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 12: last we congratulations to your ducks. If they jump Ole
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 12: miss Ole miss is vital, it's possible that they could
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 12: go past them. It's also possible that Miami, that's a
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 12: notre dame on the heels of a seventy to seven
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 12: victory in which they had the ball eighteen minutes. They
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 12: forre seventy points in eighteen minutes of possession. Tops, It's
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 12: possible they could go past Oklahoma, who beat Missouri, but
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 12: Missouri was not quite up to snuff and it was
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 12: kind of an ugly game. If that happens, maybe they'd
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 12: stay ahead of Miami in terms of beat compared to Miami.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 12: In how the committee goes about making their rankings, and
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 12: if they are not in the same pool with Miami,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 12: that they avoid that head to head conflict that seems
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 12: like so logical for all of us as college football fans,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 12: and yet doesn't seem logical at all that the find
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 12: people in the committee room who make these determinations. It's
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 12: going to go down as the greatest frustration maybe since
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 12: Florida State was thirteen and oh and didn't get in.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 12: If Miami doesn't get in and Notre Dame does and
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 12: they have the same record, it's going to be a
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 12: colossal headscratcher for everybody that roots for the team from
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 12: South Florida.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 8: I'll never forget what fueled my hatred, honestly for Notre Dame.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 8: Was watching it was like a revealing show of the
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 8: college football rankings a long long time ago, and one
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 8: of the announcers was like, well, or if Notre Dame
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 8: gets into a bowl game, that's good for everyone in
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 8: college football, And I thought it was the most absurd
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 8: comment I'd ever heard in my life.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 7: So that just reminded me of it. Obviously, you actually.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 12: There the Rolling Stones. You know what is as old
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 12: as Mick Jagger is You still want to go see him?
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 7: I know Ugh gives me the HEBG.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 8: Okay, well, coach, we got a big game here obviously
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 8: this week with Oregon in town to face the Huskies,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 8: and Bucky and I've been talking all morning about how
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 8: confident we're feeling about both both teams a little banged
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 8: up obviously. You know, Washington and Oregon, this rivalry different
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 8: than it was just a couple of years ago when
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 8: we both were vying for a shot at heading to
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 8: a national championship. But Washington has a chance to ruin
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 8: Oregon season. Do you think that's enough to give the
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 8: dogs a boost?
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 12: They're going to play their best game. Demon Williams was
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 12: fantastic in the second half against UCLA last week. Oregon
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 12: was fabulous in corralling a high flying FC offense and
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 12: then kind of just putting the ball on the ground
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 12: and punching out that game that was heading it up.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 12: Whether or not Washington has for wherewithal to stop Oregon's
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 12: running game is going to be the key. Ryan Walters
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 12: is kind of playing with hot dice right now, the
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 12: defensive coordinator for Washington. I think it's going to be
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 12: a really competitive game. It always is. Was one of
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 12: my favorite games to coach in against the Ducks just
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 12: because of the energy on the field. Everybody was certainly
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 12: all in in terms of wanting to compete in that game.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 12: So I think you're in for a whale of a game.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 12: I think the Ducks are a little bit better, and
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 12: so I'd probably lean Oregon if I had to pick
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 12: one side.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 5: Or the other.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 12: But Demon Williams is capable of special things. It'll be
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 12: interesting how healthy the Boston kid is and whether or
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 12: not he can have an impact in the game.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Rick, I mean, the health obviously is something you
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: got to deal with as a football coach regardless. And
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: yet both of these teams are dinged w and Jonah
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: Coleman got in and got a touchdown last weekend, but
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: he did not look right with that knee, and then
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: Boston Denzel Boston wasn't even in there. And Oregon doesn't
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: have i think three of their top four wide receivers.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: I mean, they're down the depth chart in multiple spots,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: and they keep having offensive lineman drop and so health wise,
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: I mean, when you start looking at the depth that
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: you need basically at this point in the season, unfortunately,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: but it's necessary where you see in the depth when
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: it comes in this because I kind of the advantage
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: of being at home for the Huskies is one advantage.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: I would think that Oregon has a little bit more depth.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: What's your eyebolls telling you?
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 12: I think you're exactly right. Oregon has more of the
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 12: quality players. Based on their recruiting, their ability to finance
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 12: their recruiting, there's no question that their depth is superior
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 12: to Washington's. So that will play into this. And here's
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 12: one thing that Oregon definitely wants to do. They need
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 12: to win this game and then hope, like heck that
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 12: Ohio State handles business against Michigan because the last thing
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 12: they want to do is have to go play in
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 12: the in the Big Ten championship game. They want a
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 12: week to heal and to get ready for the College
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 12: football playoffs, so they do not want to have to
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 12: go play another game, even though they won't say so.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 12: They want the Georgia PAF Right now, Georgia SITS is
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 12: the number four team in the country and they have
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 12: Georgia Tech this weekend on Friday. So if they win
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 12: the game, they're going to be pulling for Alabama and
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 12: Texas A and M because they want those two teams
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 12: to go play in the SEC Championship game. They think,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 12: by virtue of their victory and hopefully it'll be an
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 12: impressive one if you're a Georgia fan, that they could
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 12: get all the way to January first, they could be
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 12: one of the top four teams, get a bye, not
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 12: have to play in the first round, not have to
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 12: play in the SEC Championship game, and get to be
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 12: healthy by December. Excuse me, January first, and play in
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 12: the quarterfinals. By the way, remember it was them that
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 12: lost Carson Beck in the SEC Championship game last year.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 12: It was unavailable for the CFP.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: Crazy. It's crazy how that could work out. But I'm
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: with you one hundred percent. I mean, there's a bunch
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: of rivalry games this weekend. You just kind of nailed
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: one Ohio State Michigan. I mean, I suppose we don't
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: have a time, we don't have enough time to go
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: through all of them. But Ohio State, Michigan, Texas A
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: and M Texas, the Georgia, Georgia Tech. Maybe those are
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: the three big ones. Which what's the most interesting storyline
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: for you on this rivalry week Oh?
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 12: I think it's well, the Egg Bowl O miss Mississippi
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 12: State because of Lane Kiffins Shenanigans. Yeah, it's going to
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 12: be fascinating. You know, remember two years ago he had
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 12: this kind of dalliance with Auburn during the Egg Bowl
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 12: week and then announced that he was staying late in
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 12: the week. But they still got beat by Mississippi State
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 12: that weekend even though they were favored and so forth.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 12: So to me, is this going to be lightning striking
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 12: again that they lose their hold on a CFP in
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 12: Lane is sitting there looking down at all these old
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 12: myths fans who financed all these acquisitions in the transfer
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 12: portal and having to say sorry as he's leaving for
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 12: either of Florida or Lshit, that's amazing. Wild stories. The
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 12: Ohio State Michigan game, given the fact that Ohio State's
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 12: lost corn a row is an amazing story unto itself.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 12: And yet they won the national championship last year. So
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 12: here comes Sheron Moore, who was the head coach in
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 12: two of those games, with a chance with a Washington
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 12: win to get himself into the Big Ten championship in
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 12: the College Football Playoffs if he does it for a
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 12: fifth time, and you can imagine the amazing Blue, looking
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 12: forward to having another three hundred and sixty five days
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 12: to crow about owning the Ohio State University so lots.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 12: And then you've got Auburn Alabama in the late Saturday
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 12: night that the Atlanta Rhythm Section used to have a
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 12: song called Spooky. That's Jordan Harris Spooky for Alabama. And
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 12: if Alabama loses the playoff spot to Auburn, as Auburn
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 12: tries to get Bowl eligible with DJ Diurkin as their
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 12: head coach and Ashton Daniels as their quarterback, that will
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 12: be a story that Kaylin de Boor will say, spooky
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 12: isn't nearly a strong enough word.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, no doubt about it. Man, there's gonna be
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: a so much I mean, with the NFL schedule starting
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: up and then you got college football Friday Saturday. I mean,
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: it's there is so much stuff going on with storylines
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: that abound. I need to get what is your Taco
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: Time pick of the week.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 12: We're going to take the over in the Egg Bowl.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 12: Sixty two and a half is the number of points
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 12: that they say will be scored in this game. We're
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 12: going to say more than that. I think Blake Shaping
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 12: in Mississippi State in front of a home crowd are
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 12: going to be ready to move. It's not is formidable
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 12: at Ole Miss defense as it was a year ago,
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 12: and certainly Ole Miss knows how to move the ball
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 12: with Trinity seeing me, Trintidad Chamblets as their quarterback and
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 12: Key one Lazy as they're running back. Those two guys
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 12: are high flying. I think the game is high scoring
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 12: and uh, well, I can't wait to see the post
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 12: game press conference.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. That is going to be crazy
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: sixty two and a half. I wouldn't be surprised if
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: they both passed that as well. What's your what you
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: go to coach when it comes to thanks skimming? Are
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: you just traditional turkey guy or you you something mixes
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: it up? Do you have a whole plate? How long
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: you eat leftovers for?
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 12: I'm big on the leftovers, the sandwiches, especially on those
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 12: Hawaian little goals, and those are off the charts. But
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 12: I kind of moved through the regular fair into the dessert.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 12: I'm a pumpkin rive mother with stream guys. That is uh,
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 12: it's decadence and I only like it this time of year,
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 12: but I can't wait.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: That is interesting because pumpkin pie seems to be a
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: very hot button thing, like people either love it or
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 3: they can't stand it. I'm kind of in the middle,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 3: Like all have a piece around Thanksgiving and then I don't.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 3: I don't want it ever again until the next Thanksgiving, right, I.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 12: Don't have a craving for it any other time than
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 12: this year.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 5: But I.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 12: If I see any pie, then I haven't got enough
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 12: with stream.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 9: I want it smothered, and that is like a.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 5: Delicacy to me. I hear you.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: Well, you have a great Thanksgiving, Coach, and we'll be
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: seeing you on TV and talk to you again next week.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 12: Happy Thanksgiving to one and all. Go dogs, enjoy and
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 12: Bucky go duck hey.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 9: Enjoy, enjoy.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 12: The weekend should be trot with all sorts of storylines.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 3: It will it will you. You have a great weekend,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: a good Thanksgiving yourself. Coach Rick new Heisel there with us,
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: him breaking down all of the storylines that go from
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: big picture thirty thousand foot view all the way down
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: to I think he said the Ducks are going to
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: crush the Huskies there. I'm pretty sure I heard that.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 5: I didn't.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 7: I don't think we heard the same.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: No, you didn't hear You didn't hear that. No, Maybe
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: just thinking on my part, maybe I think you said
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: they're a lot deeper and way more talented.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 7: I don't think you said way more talent like Supreme.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: Did he say Supreme?
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 7: No, I think you were thinking about pizza h Supreme.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: No, No, I think you said nothing like. Yeah, I'm
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: pretty sure Supreme was what I heard. Maybe not. Maybe
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 3: we'll discuss what he said in the next one. Everybody
• 1:20:44
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• 1:20:46
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• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: and Ashley Charles's home, probably whipping up some gravy. I
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: would imagine to put on borst or whatever it was
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 3: that they have sometimes yea, yeah, I don't know. Hopefully
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: saw us gravy with that if he doesn't go traditionally.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 7: Put gravy on.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 8: Oh no, it's not a broad worst, No, it's it's
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 8: like a beat, or we can put gravy on anything.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 8: Gravy wouldn't make it better, I'm certain because I don't
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 8: love it, but it'd be weird.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 7: You just make it more soupy.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm just thinking he's doing the stuff all mixed
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: up because you know that he's decorating for Christmas prematurely.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: We know that, and he's probably doing other things prematurely
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 3: as well. And I'm thinking he's to pull themself together.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 7: That time of year.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 3: Is it the prematurity time of year?
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 5: All right?
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 3: Well, one thing we might be getting a little bit
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 3: premature on here, and yet I don't care is talking
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 3: about playoffs playoffs. But I do think because we did
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 3: a little exercise to start the show today where I
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 3: kind of broke down the toughest strength of schedule for
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: the three teams you're vying with in the NFC. I mean,
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: we can kick the Cardinals out. They're not coming back
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  Speaker 3: and being a threat to anybody in this division. Rams
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  Speaker 3: are on top of the thing right now, Seahawks are
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  Speaker 3: and second. San Francisco forty nine Ers are basically half
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  Speaker 3: a game behind them at eight and four. I am
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  Speaker 3: at this point and I don't know where if you
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  Speaker 3: agree or not, I kind of feel like both of
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  Speaker 3: these teams, all three of these teams, excuse me, are
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  Speaker 3: going to make the playoffs. I think three teams from
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  Speaker 3: the NFC West are going to make it. Based on
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  Speaker 3: the schedule, I mean, these teams just have to take
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  Speaker 3: care of business. San Francisco might be the one that
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  Speaker 3: I would worry most about not making it if I
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  Speaker 3: was a nine er, because they're so dinged up, and
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  Speaker 3: yesterday they played like garbage against the Panthers. And yet
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  Speaker 3: the Panthers are a team I don't know for sure
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  Speaker 3: if that's because they actually are fairly decent. That's why
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  Speaker 3: they've kind of hung around. And so I think for
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  Speaker 3: sure too, I think the Rams and Seahawks for sure
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  Speaker 3: one to two. That order is yet to be determined.
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  Speaker 3: I think a Thursday night game here in a month
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  Speaker 3: or three weeks is going to be a big factor
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  Speaker 3: in that. But the Rams definitely have the easiest road
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  Speaker 3: to win in the division. The Seahawks have probably the
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  Speaker 3: most difficult run to winning the division, even more so
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  Speaker 3: than the Niners in my opinion. But I think all
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  Speaker 3: three of them are going to make it. I think
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  Speaker 3: a good exercise we could do right now is we
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  Speaker 3: go down the NFC. At this point, the Rams number one, Eagles,
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  Speaker 3: number two, Bears number three, Buccaneers number four. Seahawks are
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  Speaker 3: there at number five, and that's simply because the Buccaneers
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  Speaker 3: at six and five would win their division, So the
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  Speaker 3: Seahwks will be the number one wildcard team. Then the
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  Speaker 3: Packers at seven three and one, and then the Niners
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  Speaker 3: at eight and four. Is there a team you think
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  Speaker 3: is going to fall out of that group? And if so,
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  Speaker 3: who do you think might jump up and sniper that.
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  Speaker 5: We have the.
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  Speaker 3: Lions that basically would be in the mix. They're at
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  Speaker 3: seven and four. They're right behind San Francisco at eight
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  Speaker 3: and four, Caroline Panthers six and six, Cowboys maybe at
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  Speaker 3: five and five and one. They have kind of a
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  Speaker 3: nice looking schedule moving forward. I think that might be
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  Speaker 3: where it stops. The Falcons are at four and seven.
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  Speaker 3: At that point, I mean, then you're getting into the Falcons, Vikings, Cardinals,
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  Speaker 3: Commander Saints, and Giants. Those teams I would just think
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  Speaker 3: are pretty much out of it. So how do you
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  Speaker 3: see this NFC playoff situation shaken out?
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  Speaker 8: Ashley Well It's interesting because I would say, just based
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  Speaker 8: on looking at the teams, not looking at their schedules
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  Speaker 8: at all, I think the Buccaneers would be the team
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  Speaker 8: most likely to fall out.
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  Speaker 7: They started out the season playing really well.
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  Speaker 8: They haven't been playing as well as of late, and
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  Speaker 8: now Baker Mayfield's injured, although whether this time or not,
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  Speaker 8: we have no idea.
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  Speaker 7: Then I looked at their schedule.
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  Speaker 8: Though, HM, Cardinals, Saints, Falcons, Panthers, Dolphins, Panthers.
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  Speaker 7: They're not falling out of the pick, I would agree.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, So I would look at Chicago Eagles, Packers, Browns, Packers, Niners, Lions.
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  Speaker 7: That is a tough last six games.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: And now, I and you know the Bears. They've played
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  Speaker 8: well well, they've played well enough. They've won a lot
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  Speaker 8: of very close games. Nobody can figure out how they
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  Speaker 8: can keep doing it. Nobody thinks it's sustainable. I think
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  Speaker 8: this last six games of their schedule is going to
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  Speaker 8: prove that it's not sustainable. I would say the Bears
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  Speaker 8: are most likely to fall out.
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  Speaker 3: That would be my guess as well. And then that
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  Speaker 3: basically opens the door. I mean their division, they're right
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  Speaker 3: now eight and three, Packers are right behind them half
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  Speaker 3: a game behind seven to three and one, and then
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  Speaker 3: the Detroit Lions had another half game behind them at
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  Speaker 3: seven and four. I think the Lions are the best team,
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  Speaker 3: but then again, I I'm not sure if I should
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  Speaker 3: be thinking that the way that they've put last year
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  Speaker 3: we watched this Detroit Lions team. Now, everybody's entitled to.
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  Speaker 3: You lose a game that the year before you found
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  Speaker 3: a way to pull out, that's understandable. They just don't
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  Speaker 3: look the same. They don't look like they're crazy dominant.
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  Speaker 3: Now they've whooped up on a couple teams here and there,
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  Speaker 3: but for the most part, it's like they've scratched out w's.
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  Speaker 3: I mean the way in which they barely beat the
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  Speaker 3: Giants last week. I mean, you know, they end up
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  Speaker 3: beating them by seven points, but I mean they were
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  Speaker 3: behind at times in that game, and Jameis Winston is
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  Speaker 3: just putting up points left and right on you. That
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  Speaker 3: to me is not a great sign. But then that
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  Speaker 3: was on the heels of losing a game against the
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  Speaker 3: Eagles where you couldn't do anything offensively. So to me,
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  Speaker 3: it's they seem a little bit more sketchy than I
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  Speaker 3: would have thought. In years past for sure, and yet
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  Speaker 3: I still feel like that the Dan Campbell factor. I
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  Speaker 3: think that they will dig deep. I think they will
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  Speaker 3: find a way to jump up there. And I think
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  Speaker 3: that the only logical thing would be the Chicago Bears,
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  Speaker 3: how difficult their schedule is. If they drop three or
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  Speaker 3: four games and find themselves at nine and eight, then
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  Speaker 3: I think they'll find themselves on the outside looking in,
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  Speaker 3: because I think the Packers will right the ship enough.
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  Speaker 3: I think the Detroit Lions will write the ship enough,
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  Speaker 3: and outside of that, I just don't see a whole
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  Speaker 3: heck of a lot of teams that are going to
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  Speaker 3: be vying for any of those top seven spots.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, although I did look at the Packers schedule too,
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  Speaker 8: and that's a tricky one too because it's the Lions, Bears,
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  Speaker 8: Broncos Bears, Ravens Vikings, and if this Ravens team is
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  Speaker 8: who people are thinking that they will actually be at
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  Speaker 8: the end of the year. I mean, I think they'll
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  Speaker 8: have no trouble with the Vikings, But I would have
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  Speaker 8: thought that the Packers would have had no trouble with
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  Speaker 8: the Vikings the first time they played, and they did.
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  Speaker 3: That's true.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, So I don't know. It's gonna be interesting.
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  Speaker 8: I do think though it's gonna be it's going to
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  Speaker 8: be the Bears and they're possibly the Packers.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be mine.
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  Speaker 7: That might Yeah, that would bomped out, that would be
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  Speaker 7: falling out.
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  Speaker 3: And that would make room for the Lions. Then you
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  Speaker 3: assume would get in there. And I don't know who
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  Speaker 3: else Carolina Dallas.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, one of the I don't I just don't see
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  Speaker 7: feels like doing it.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I kind of feel I could see the
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  Speaker 3: Lions jumping up and taking somebody's spot, right, and that
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  Speaker 3: I either think the just one would be the Bears.
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  Speaker 8: One of them's got to be that that division though,
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  Speaker 8: right and although we'd already discussed Tampa Bay's not going.
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  Speaker 7: Anywhere, I don't think, right, But that's yeah, I think, oh.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I would think it would be the Dallas Cowboys
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  Speaker 8: over the Panthers.
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  Speaker 7: Personally.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 7: It's gonna be interesting.
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  Speaker 8: There's a lot, especially looking at those last six weeks
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  Speaker 8: of just the Packers, Lions, and Bears schedules, that's gonna
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  Speaker 8: be very interesting.
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  Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Well that's I mean, you got the Lions, Packers,
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  Speaker 3: and Bears are all going for that division. So it's say,
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  Speaker 3: after you say oh my Lions and Packers and Bears,
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  Speaker 3: oh my, yeah, I didn't think about that. I'm not
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  Speaker 3: that quick. Well, hopefully I will be quick enough to
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