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Dirty Rush: Ladies, It’s Time to Clean Up Your Social Media if You Want To Succeed in Rush · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Dirty Rush, The Truth about Sorority Life with
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  Speaker 1: your hosts me Gia Judice.
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  Speaker 2: Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Kessler.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back to another episode of Dirty Rush.
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  Speaker 2: I'm your host, Daisy Kent, and today we're talking to
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  Speaker 2: a sorority rush expert known as bid Bible, also known
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  Speaker 2: as Abby Sky. She's here to give us the lowdown
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  Speaker 2: on everything you need to know about your social media
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  Speaker 2: presence before you rush. So let's welcome Abby in. Hi, Hi, Abby,
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  Speaker 2: thanks for coming on.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Chris, thanks so much for inviting me. How are you?
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  Speaker 2: Of course I was like looking through your Instagram. I'm
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  Speaker 2: excited to chat about all what you do.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah know me too, Oh my gosh. And my sister
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  Speaker 1: absolutely loves Gia. And of course I saw your season.
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  Speaker 4: I saw you Jamison's a while ago.
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  Speaker 3: That's so cute.
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  Speaker 2: And you went to Kappa Gamma or you were in
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  Speaker 2: kabakap game at.
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  Speaker 4: USC right, yeah, exactly awesome.
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  Speaker 3: Are you when did you graduate or are you still
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  Speaker 3: in school?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 4: I graduated two years ago.
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  Speaker 3: Two years ago, Okay, that's what I rushed. Yeah, okay cool.
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  Speaker 3: And did you throw or did you hold.
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  Speaker 1: A position on exact No, it didn't, but I got
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  Speaker 1: to see all the behind the scenes, you know, because
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  Speaker 1: you were in a sorority and so did you.
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  Speaker 4: Hold a position?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? I was paneletic.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, oh wow, okay, the whole thing. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well it was like I was like the panelmic
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  Speaker 2: person for my sorority. So I wasn't like on on
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  Speaker 2: like paneltic with the school, but I would just go
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  Speaker 2: to all the panelytic meetings. I had to like know everything.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, no, it's a lot. So that's how did you.
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  Speaker 3: Start doing like what you're doing?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 1: It started back when I rushed my first time my
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  Speaker 1: sophomore year at USC.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I didn't know anything going into it. I mean
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  Speaker 1: despite having a mom, a dad, and aunest and uncles
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  Speaker 1: all were in Greek. But they kind of just told
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  Speaker 1: me I have fun with it. And actually my mom
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  Speaker 1: was the one who's like, maybe.
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  Speaker 4: You should prep but I was like, no, no, I
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  Speaker 4: don't really know why right good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, it's a social club, like are
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  Speaker 1: and I just supposed to talk. So yeah, and so
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  Speaker 1: my best friend and I went into it and we
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  Speaker 1: thought we had great conversations. Everything seemed sweet and normal,
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  Speaker 1: and especially myself being a very involved high school student.
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  Speaker 1: I was student body president. I was very confident because
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  Speaker 1: of all these things. So I was like, Okay, I
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  Speaker 1: think like that went well. And you know, naturally, after
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  Speaker 1: you go through that first day, you're like, oh, I
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  Speaker 1: really loved certain houses over others. Yeah, and so yeah,
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  Speaker 1: completely fell in love already. But the next morning I
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  Speaker 1: looked at my schedule and I was like, what happened.
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  Speaker 1: All of my top houses had dropped me. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: I was left with the houses that I just feel
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  Speaker 1: like I did not resonate.
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  Speaker 3: With at all.
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  Speaker 1: And so yeah, and I thought, okay, I am going
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  Speaker 1: to drop out this completely this time. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: I could even see it through, because it's really heartbreaking
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  Speaker 1: I think when something like that happens, because oh.
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  Speaker 2: For sure, I remember one of my friends I met
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  Speaker 2: early on like got dropped from all of the houses
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  Speaker 2: that she wanted to be in, and she was like devastated.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah no, and you take it so personally too. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's just really sad and so yeah, I and
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  Speaker 1: the same thing actually happened to my best friend at
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  Speaker 1: the time, So yeah, it was nice to at least
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  Speaker 1: have that to go through it together.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But that next year I just decided, Okay, like I
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  Speaker 1: think I need to actually prepare this time.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I tried to see, Okay, what could it
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  Speaker 4: have been. What were the differences over.
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  Speaker 1: The gaps, and so yeah, I noticed like one for
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  Speaker 1: sure was a very curated instagram.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I was like, Okay to my best friend, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: we have to we have to take pictures of all
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  Speaker 1: the fun that we have because we are just you know,
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  Speaker 1: hanging out all the time doing these fun things. But
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  Speaker 1: I think we just weren't super big on it.
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  Speaker 3: I guess, yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 2: I mean also like I feel like if you're having
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  Speaker 2: fun with like your best friend, like a lot of
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  Speaker 2: times you don't think to take a photo.
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  Speaker 3: But it's a mindset. Now I feel like, oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like I just say, it's more than fun now.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like it's all a.
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  Speaker 1: Personal brand really because it spills into all these other
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  Speaker 1: areas of life. And so I guess it. We were like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: we we should do this for sure. So yeah, then
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  Speaker 1: the next time, you rushed much more prepared curated instagrams.
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  Speaker 4: And we both got into some of our top houses.
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  Speaker 4: So it was yeah, like full circle moment.
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  Speaker 1: It was great, and I ended up helping a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of my other family friends, my sister, my cousins, because
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  Speaker 1: I really empathize with you know, girls going into this
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  Speaker 1: for the first time. I mean, you know how it
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  Speaker 1: is just that fifteen minutes.
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  Speaker 3: You have scary, so scary.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so scary, and there's a billion girls talking
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  Speaker 1: over each other, and you know you've.
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  Speaker 4: Been up since five am.
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  Speaker 3: Literally it's nuts. And like you said to the rejection,
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  Speaker 3: like that feeling is crazy too.
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  Speaker 4: And then you've got to go in again like gonna mean,
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  Speaker 4: it's like I don't it's it's crazy to do this
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  Speaker 4: multiple days in a row. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's why I decided, Okay, I kind of
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  Speaker 1: want to start some with this because I see a
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  Speaker 1: pattern of this working with people.
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  Speaker 4: I love helping young girls.
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  Speaker 3: You know, that's awesome. So tell me about the bikini
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  Speaker 3: map that you made.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Oh, it's so funny that you bring
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  Speaker 1: that up, because I was just explaining to a client
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  Speaker 1: from the University of Arizona that they go really hard
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  Speaker 1: with their bikini bits there, Like I couldn't find a
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  Speaker 1: single active that doesn't have like multiple and a mom
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  Speaker 1: was like, oh, how many should she post? That's such
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  Speaker 1: a funny question, And I was like, could I come
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  Speaker 1: up with some kind of.
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  Speaker 4: Number for hers?
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  Speaker 1: I was like, maybe every four pictures, like one, two,
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  Speaker 1: three bikini.
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  Speaker 3: Three bikini. That's so funny.
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  Speaker 2: You kind of like look at the school that they're
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  Speaker 2: going to and then base it on there.
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  Speaker 4: Right exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I just think that different regions, you know, there's a
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  Speaker 1: different level of appropriateness, like over and actually, funny enough,
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  Speaker 1: I actually went to San Diego State for my freshman year.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, cool, Yeah, I know, like.
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  Speaker 1: These West Coast schools, you know, they don't really care
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  Speaker 1: about it. It's like encouraged mostly, and then over in
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  Speaker 1: the South they're much more traditional, classic, and I say,
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  Speaker 1: family friendly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you say about like guy friends and
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  Speaker 2: like boyfriends? Like if a girl has like posts or
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of guys before she's.
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  Speaker 3: Going, what do you say about that?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: And that's also funny because apparently that became really controversial,
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  Speaker 1: and I've been trying to mitigate that from spreading on
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  Speaker 1: guide Talk because I'm like, oh my gosh, this has
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  Speaker 1: gone fifty six percent male viewership, I'm scared, but no,
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  Speaker 1: it's just like, so I just think if somebody has
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  Speaker 1: like a ton of photos of her and her boyfriend
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  Speaker 1: on there, or maybe like a whole highlight or to
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  Speaker 1: dedicated to this, I think it's obviously that's so greaty
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  Speaker 1: like that you have such a loving relationship and you
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  Speaker 1: want to share that. But I just think about the
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  Speaker 1: one unlucky person that you could end up getting rushed by.
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  Speaker 1: And I had seen it myself back when I was
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  Speaker 1: rushing girls, and so it's just something that I think
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  Speaker 1: is not talked about or mentioned it all, Like I
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  Speaker 1: couldn't find this kind of stuff anywhere about the realities
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  Speaker 1: of rush. Yeah, And so that's why I'm trying to
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  Speaker 1: do that for girls because I also think that when
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  Speaker 1: I was personally rushing girls, I don't think it gives
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  Speaker 1: off like the best perception if you have tons and tons, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's like, oh, like, is this girl really going to
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  Speaker 1: put us first sometimes.
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  Speaker 3: Or is going to view with the guys all the time? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's like the bonding really happens when you
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  Speaker 1: guys spending time with each other, and so it's yeah,
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  Speaker 1: not malicious at all.
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  Speaker 4: And yeah, I hope that nobody takes it that way.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think about also, like political figures
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  Speaker 2: and like pop culture figures, do you think like unfollowing
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  Speaker 2: them before rush people should do that or do you think.
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  Speaker 3: They should keep them? What's your thoughts on that?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, I always just say to unfollow any of them,
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  Speaker 1: just because again, like there's all types of political views
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  Speaker 1: with all these girls. It's like I know that you know,
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  Speaker 1: every house has their reputation and everything, but no, I
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  Speaker 1: mean being in when you know there's all different types
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  Speaker 1: of people in each sorority, and so I just think
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  Speaker 1: that is something that would help them because my whole
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  Speaker 1: job is to just increase their chances as much as possible,
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  Speaker 1: and like, so I just think that they should keep
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  Speaker 1: that out of friendships anyways too.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, I agree that makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: And what about like having family pictures or having too
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  Speaker 2: many solo pictures?
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  Speaker 3: How do you tell people to like, oh you get
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  Speaker 3: sat all in?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because it's funny. A lot of girls will
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  Speaker 1: send me screenshots or just send me their instagrams, and
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  Speaker 1: I do find Yeah, sometimes it's it's all selfies and stuff,
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  Speaker 1: but that's just not giving a full picture yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think it's like.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, you're super pretty, but like, is there anything
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  Speaker 4: else to you?
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  Speaker 1: Can? We see that because after the conversations the recruiters,
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  Speaker 1: they all go and behind and start scrolling through, you know,
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  Speaker 1: just because curious what you're like outside of rush, because
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  Speaker 1: as we said, you only get to know them for
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  Speaker 1: so much.
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  Speaker 2: Time, and yeah, it happens pretty quick. I'm curious because
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  Speaker 2: you mentioned that, like the mom was asking you, like
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  Speaker 2: what the girls should be posted when you're helping these
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  Speaker 2: girls and like prepping them for recruitment.
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  Speaker 3: Are a lot of the moms in like very involved.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, some of them are very involved, and it's really sweet,
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  Speaker 1: and I try to work with them both because you know,
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  Speaker 1: sometimes I'm like, okay, let's make sure that your daughter
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  Speaker 1: actually wants to do this too.
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  Speaker 3: That she's not just that you just don't want.
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  Speaker 4: Her to do Yeah, exactly exactly.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, they definitely are involved and surprisingly, actually, I
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  Speaker 1: have found that it hasn't been this other moms.
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  Speaker 3: Actually yeah, oh that's so interesting. And then what do
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  Speaker 3: you think.
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  Speaker 2: About like the following two follower ratio have you seen
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  Speaker 2: like does that matter?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, actually had to go over this with somebody recently,
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  Speaker 1: but I just think it may give off the impression
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  Speaker 1: like we had we made our account way way long
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  Speaker 1: time ago, and maybe when we were a bit younger,
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  Speaker 1: we were following like every cute dog post that we
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  Speaker 1: saw or something. Again, it's just all about it being
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  Speaker 1: a personal brand, and so that is something that I
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  Speaker 1: tell them, Okay, maybe we can just unfollow all those
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  Speaker 1: spam accounts, just as some other kind of step to take.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, do you ever have like a client that comes
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  Speaker 2: and they don't have a social media they have never
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  Speaker 2: really been into social media, and like, do you think
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  Speaker 2: it's definitely like important for them to have an Instagram?
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  Speaker 3: Then?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, one hundred percent. Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 1: It's more to do than just the girls checking after conversations,
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  Speaker 1: but also beforehand.
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  Speaker 4: And yeah, I've had a couple.
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  Speaker 1: Of girls who just don't really understand that, and so
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  Speaker 1: I have to explain to them, and sometimes it takes
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  Speaker 1: some convincing.
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  Speaker 3: Actually I just like do it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like I get it, Like some people just
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  Speaker 1: whether that's their parents didn't allow them to have that.
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  Speaker 4: I actually got.
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  Speaker 1: An email one time from a dad who was so
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  Speaker 1: concerned that he may have ruined her chances because he
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  Speaker 1: didn't let her get on Instagram.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, no, no, no, you're fine. Used to
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  Speaker 4: have all summer.
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  Speaker 1: But it does help, and it could even help with
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  Speaker 1: dirty rushing, which is something that I encourage the girls
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  Speaker 1: to do. Not be the ones to necessarily do the
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  Speaker 1: reaching out. I actually tell them to do that, but
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  Speaker 1: to receive messages and to just get on their radar
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  Speaker 1: because end of the day, a lot of these girls
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  Speaker 1: have the leg up. Whether that's them having already been
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  Speaker 1: friends with a ton of the girls since they were
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  Speaker 1: kids and maybe they know each other from growing up,
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  Speaker 1: or if they were involved in a club and they
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  Speaker 1: got that extra time, you know, to network for sure.
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  Speaker 2: What's like if you could give a girl going through
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  Speaker 2: recruitment or like about to go through recruitment, like one
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  Speaker 2: piece of advice when it comes to social media, what
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  Speaker 2: would you say?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I would just say take the summer
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  Speaker 1: to have the best time ever and to capture everything
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  Speaker 1: and like anything that you can that's going to show
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  Speaker 1: off your hobbies, show off what you like to do,
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  Speaker 1: show off your friends and your outfits, because they all
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  Speaker 1: like to do the same things like shopping and tanning
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  Speaker 1: and match and plodes. But also you want to show
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  Speaker 1: that you're unique, and so I always say, yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: want to make it so that it's relatable to these girls,
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  Speaker 1: and so it's like, Okay, she looks like she can,
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  Speaker 1: you know, hang with us, and she'll get along with
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  Speaker 1: these people because they have common interests.
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  Speaker 4: But also to stand out.
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  Speaker 1: And I guess even going a little further into that,
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  Speaker 1: I tell girls, if you have some really cool special
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  Speaker 1: hobby or if you just like let's say pasta like,
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  Speaker 1: go ahead and start a TikTok page for that or something.
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  Speaker 1: Just show off your interests and it's going to help
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  Speaker 1: you a lot to stand out.
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  Speaker 2: I love that, Okay, and let us know where can
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  Speaker 2: everyone find you if they.
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  Speaker 3: Want to get advice to you or want to work
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  Speaker 3: with you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just at bid Bible, on TikTok and Instagram,
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  Speaker 1: but that's where you'll find, yeah, all of my nobs
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  Speaker 1: rush tips.
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  Speaker 3: I love that. Well, thank you so much for coming on.
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  Speaker 4: Abby, Yeah, no, thank you so much for.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, it was great to meet you, you too, Hie. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: Well that was fun talking to Abby. I'm always so
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  Speaker 2: interested to hear what these RUSH coaches do and their
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  Speaker 2: outlook on it because I've talked to some really really
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  Speaker 2: intense ones. I really liked how Abby seemed to be
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  Speaker 2: more chill about it and just wants to kind of
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  Speaker 2: help the girls. It's also crazy, though, how intense social
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  Speaker 2: media has gotten, how that can play such a big
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  Speaker 2: aspect of you getting into a sorority. But then at
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  Speaker 2: the end of the day, I guess you only have
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  Speaker 2: like five to fifteen minutes probably to talk to a girl.
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  Speaker 2: So I mean, I even think about it, Like if
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  Speaker 2: you meet a girl like somewhere like at the gym,
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  Speaker 2: or like if you meet a new friend at the
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  Speaker 2: bar or whatever, like the first thing I do is
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  Speaker 2: go and look them up on social media. It's just
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  Speaker 2: such a thing in like the era of life we
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  Speaker 2: are right now. But yeah, you can check out Abby's
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  Speaker 2: stuff and thank you guys for tuning in to Dirty Rush.