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The One Where Jonathan Used The Wrong Mic · Large Nerdron Collider

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  Speaker 1: And hey, everybody, Welcome to the Larger or John Collider Podcast,
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  Speaker 1: the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
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  Speaker 1: the world around us and how very excited we are
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  Speaker 1: about them. I'm Ariel Casten, and with me, as always
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  Speaker 1: is the easy breezy Jonathan Streeling.
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  Speaker 2: I'm feeling a little anxious if you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, well, then I guess you're not always easy breezy.
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  Speaker 1: Why you a little anxious?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm merely I'm merely referencing a classic comedy movie
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  Speaker 2: that sort of ties into one of the things we'll
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  Speaker 2: talk about today.
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  Speaker 1: Ah, okay, it's me and me and my never getting
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  Speaker 1: the references I really ought to get.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm surprised you well, I didn't say it anywhere
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  Speaker 2: close to the way it's said in the film. So
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  Speaker 2: if I were to quote it or in line with
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  Speaker 2: a character be a film, a little anxious if you
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean? Gotcha?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Now I know, Now I know?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, now it's all come crashing back. Yeah. So,
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  Speaker 2: Ariel and I we are recording this a night early
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  Speaker 2: or earlier than when we typically do. We usually record
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  Speaker 2: on Fridays. We are recording on a Thursday. I say
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  Speaker 2: that because, as is always the case, I'm sure that
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  Speaker 2: some sort of major entertainment news story will drop between
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  Speaker 2: today and tomorrow that we would have covered had we
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  Speaker 2: recorded on a Friday. But as it turns out, both
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  Speaker 2: of us actually have conflicts tomorrow, So rather than go
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  Speaker 2: another week with a missing or lost episode, we're recording
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  Speaker 2: a little early.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, so fun, but that doesn't mean we have a
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  Speaker 1: lack of things to talk about. In fact, we have
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  Speaker 1: a lot to talk about, but most of it is
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  Speaker 1: in our thirty seconds or less. We'll see if we
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  Speaker 1: stick to that. I think we might.
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  Speaker 2: We won't. We already know we won't, but we put
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  Speaker 2: a lot in there because a lot of the elements
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  Speaker 2: for thirty seconds or less on initial glance, look like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: we can just quickly go over this and move on.
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  Speaker 2: But you know us, you know, if that music stops
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  Speaker 2: playing and we're still talking, just give us, give us
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  Speaker 2: a little.
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  Speaker 1: Grace challenge, you accepted, Jonathan.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, let's see how we do.
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  Speaker 1: I know there's at least one thing where I initially
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  Speaker 1: had like an add in, and I may not.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we'll get started with thirty seconds or less, and
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  Speaker 2: I have the first one. So here we go. First off,
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  Speaker 2: the Hollywood Reporter has reported that Willem Dafoe has joined
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  Speaker 2: the cast of Beetlejuice Too. There's that reference. The scuttle
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  Speaker 2: butt is that Dafoe is going to be playing some
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  Speaker 2: sort of ghost cup up or cop ghost or you know,
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  Speaker 2: a dead law enforcement guy. So based on that, I'm
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  Speaker 2: guessing he's trying to chase down the ghost with the
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  Speaker 2: most you know. Just Too is already in production, and so,
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  Speaker 2: assuming no rewrites are needed, should progress despite the writer's strike.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see. It depends on if they pick it. Ooh,
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  Speaker 1: I've already failed. Okay. Anyhow, Next Lego has released a
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  Speaker 1: new bat set, and by mean by that, I mean
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  Speaker 1: they've released the bat Cave shadow bonds. So when it's
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  Speaker 1: closed up, you see bits of the bat Cave with
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  Speaker 1: a big like Batman logo in front, and when you
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  Speaker 1: open it up, there's the entire bat Cave in there
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  Speaker 1: that you can play with with interactive knobs and a
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  Speaker 1: little batmobile that has raising up little turrets and a
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  Speaker 1: little fiery back end. It's four hundred dollars. It comes
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  Speaker 1: out June eighth. It's almost four thousand pieces. And yes,
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  Speaker 1: it will probably end up living at my house.
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  Speaker 2: That's crazy expensive. Okay, all right, we'll talk about that later.
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  Speaker 2: One of the mini series currently on hold due to
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  Speaker 2: the aforementioned writers strike is The Penguin, which is the
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  Speaker 2: spinoff series from the Sparkly Vampire version of The Batman. Well,
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  Speaker 2: the Penguin was already in production. Picketers were actually able
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  Speaker 2: to convince other folks like teamsters to not cross picket lines,
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  Speaker 2: and the studio has put the whole production on hold.
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  Speaker 2: No telling yet to what extent in a this delay
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  Speaker 2: will have on the release, which is supposed to be
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  Speaker 2: sometime in twenty eight four.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're sad that The Penguin's not coming out,
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  Speaker 1: that's okay. You can drown your tears by streaming D
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  Speaker 1: and D on Paramount Plus. Yes, the actually very well
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  Speaker 1: received D and D movie Honor among Thieves or D
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  Speaker 1: and D hat recently dropped on Paramount Plus free to subscribers.
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  Speaker 1: It's like ninety one percent critically fresh on Rotten Tomatoes
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  Speaker 1: and ninety three percent audience fresh on Tomatoes. That's astounding
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  Speaker 1: for a D and D movie. If you don't have
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  Speaker 1: Paramount Plus, you and you've already used your free trial
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  Speaker 1: and you don't want to debscribe. You can also rent
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  Speaker 1: it on Google Play or YouTube for twenty bucks or
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  Speaker 1: buy it on Amazon for like twenty five bucks. I
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  Speaker 1: quite enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 2: It's interesting. I used to have a D and D
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  Speaker 2: hat and it was also ninety one percent fresh. You
• 5:15
  Speaker 2: got Game of Thrones of my EXCaliber? Hey, you got
• 5:18
  Speaker 2: Excalibur stuck in my cal drogo. Say so, there's this
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  Speaker 2: ten episode of quote unquote revisionist take on King Arthur
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  Speaker 2: that's already wrapped production that will be coming to the
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  Speaker 2: channel MGM plus, which used to be the channel Epics
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  Speaker 2: and I am so out of the loop on cable TV.
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  Speaker 2: I had not heard of either of those anyway. It
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  Speaker 2: looks like it's going to be violent and gritty, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm guessing it's going to make some real choices with
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  Speaker 2: Arthurian legend. Not sure when it's gonna be out though
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  Speaker 2: it's already wrapped, so this is not something that's going
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  Speaker 2: to be delayed. Just don't know when it's coming to screens.
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  Speaker 1: Epics does have some stuff that I enjoy, but not
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  Speaker 1: enough that I'll subscribe to it, Like there's a great
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  Speaker 1: series from that I watch the first like seven episodes
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  Speaker 1: of and haven't watched it anymore because I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to buy the system the service right now. So Twister.
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  Speaker 1: Are you old enough to remember the Twister movie from
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  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety six, Probably most of our listeners are, but
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  Speaker 1: if you aren't familiar with it, it was a movie
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  Speaker 1: about people who went storm chasing for tornadoes. It was
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  Speaker 1: pretty good. There was a ride at Universal Florida about
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  Speaker 1: it for a while. I don't know if it's still there,
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  Speaker 1: But now these many years later, we are getting a
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  Speaker 1: sequel to it. It's not a direct sequel, it's more
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  Speaker 1: of like a next installment in the franchise. But it's
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  Speaker 1: about a storm chaser who got really scared by a
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  Speaker 1: tornado by a close call and now works a desk
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  Speaker 1: job and gets pulled back in. It stars Daisy Edgar Jones.
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  Speaker 1: It also stars Anthony Ramos and a bunch of other
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  Speaker 1: up and clumbing, up and coming cool people. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just want to point out the Twister ride
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  Speaker 2: closed in twenty fifteen, so Aeriel's even more out of
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  Speaker 2: touch with the Universal Studios than I am with cable television.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, the sequel to Twister is called Twisters.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, not twister er, No.
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  Speaker 1: Not twistered two more twisted.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean so many lost opportunities.
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  Speaker 1: All right, I'm done double feeling all the way, darn it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well, I'm going to go to do my next
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  Speaker 2: one right now before we get completely off trail. So
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  Speaker 2: we have mentioned in other episodes of Larger Drunk Latter
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  Speaker 2: that the goofy comedy Twins, which cast Arnold Schwarzenegger and
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  Speaker 2: Danny Dvido as the titular Twins, was supposed to get
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  Speaker 2: a sequel called Triplets, but apparently that is no longer
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  Speaker 2: the case, and a great to Schwartzenegger, it's all because
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  Speaker 2: of Jason Rightman. Jason's father, I Evan Wrightman, directed the
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  Speaker 2: Twins film, but sadly passed away last year. Anyway, according
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  Speaker 2: to Arnold, Jason just didn't get Twins, So now the
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  Speaker 2: project is really most sincerely dead.
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  Speaker 1: That's a shame. Because I met Danny DeVito's stunt double
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  Speaker 1: in Las Vegas. I'm sure none of you guys have
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  Speaker 1: heard this story from the many times I've talked about
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  Speaker 1: it on this show, and that was one of the
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  Speaker 1: things he said he was working on.
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  Speaker 2: He was excited about. Yeah, you had mentioned it, and
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  Speaker 2: at one point I think, so, this was one of
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  Speaker 2: those things I got on the cutting room floor. I
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  Speaker 2: think you mentioned it and you weren't at the time
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  Speaker 2: comfortable saying what the production was, and then I guessed
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  Speaker 2: it and then I had to go back and edit
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  Speaker 2: it out.
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  Speaker 1: That's completely accurate because at the time I didn't know
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  Speaker 1: if it had been announced yet, like I hadn't, we
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  Speaker 1: hadn't really seen anything about it. So yeah, yeah, fun times, Uh, Arnold.
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  Speaker 1: Arnold's kind of be going Sorry, this is one of
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  Speaker 1: those places we're going to take a slight detour. Arnold's
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  Speaker 1: kind of like he went at Terminator too recently, saying like,
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  Speaker 1: wellranchise isn't dead, but I'm done with it. He's on
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  Speaker 1: a an actor's like honest opinion path.
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  Speaker 2: It feels like, yeah, we also call those hissy fits.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's entitled to his opinion. And also like, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't care for the last couple Terminator movies, so it's fine.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think most people did.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So like, I get it, I get it. I
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  Speaker 1: can't superfault him anyhow. Something else that I thought was
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  Speaker 1: gone and is not is Archer, but it will be
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  Speaker 1: soon so it has now confirmed that season fourteen will
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  Speaker 1: be its final season, and it is going to air
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  Speaker 1: August thirtieth on FXX at ten pm and stream the
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  Speaker 1: next day on Hulu. That's all I have to say
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  Speaker 1: about it. Do you like how he said it real
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  Speaker 1: slow so fit the thirty seconds?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? No, that was great. Yeah. I learned about this
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  Speaker 2: because Amber Nash tweeted about it. And I know Amber.
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  Speaker 2: She's the voice of Ampoovie, but she also is a
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  Speaker 2: performer at a theater I go to pretty frequently, and
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  Speaker 2: so I just it was one of the few times
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  Speaker 2: I was actually on Twitter. I was looking for any
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  Speaker 2: responses to the tech stuff Twitter feed and just happened
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  Speaker 2: to see that. I was like, oh, even though I
• 10:26
  Speaker 2: haven't watched Archer for like seven seasons, so I kind
• 10:30
  Speaker 2: of really got to catch up anyway. All right, here
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  Speaker 2: we go. Due to lots of complicated legal reasons, the
• 10:37
  Speaker 2: Indiana Jones franchise has never been available in pull on
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  Speaker 2: Disney Plus until May thirty first, that is when all
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: three Indiana Jones movies, plus a mistake that was made
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: much much later, plus the entire TV series where Indiana
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: Jones is young and in some episodes, less young and
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  Speaker 2: played by a different actor. All of that is coming
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  Speaker 2: to Disney Plus. So you whip in your Fedora on
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  Speaker 2: a thirty first. Also, I will I will append one
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  Speaker 2: other little thing. I know, I know we're violating this
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  Speaker 2: left and right. I like you, But yeah, Young Indian
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  Speaker 2: Jones is actually really great. That's a great series. And
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: there are two different young indies, Like there's a young
• 11:24
  Speaker 2: young Indie and then there's a slightly less young Indie
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: and it's for a while they alternated in episodes. But no,
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: the thing I was going to mention is that as
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  Speaker 2: we're recording this, reviews are starting to come in for
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: Dial of Destiny, which was shown it can and it's
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  Speaker 2: so funny to me that a lot of them are
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: are like just gushing about what a thrill ride this is,
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: and then there are others who are like this is
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  Speaker 2: dumb and brain dead, and I'm just like, wow, there's
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  Speaker 2: no middle ground. So I guess we'll just have to
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  Speaker 2: wait and see.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it'll be interesting for sure. This next story.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like.
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  Speaker 1: If you're a literary nerd, I think that this is
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: this a literary geek, This is for you across the
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: River and Into the Trees, which I think was the
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: last full length novel Hemingway published, is being turned into
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: a movie by Bleeker Street. It's stars Josh Hutcherson, Denny
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: Houston and Leaf Schreiber and Matilda de Angelis, and it's
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: about a World War two colonel who suffers from I'm
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: guessing PTSD and just his dealing with it and how
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: people take him around the countryside of Venice to try
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: to like cheer him up, is what I get from
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: the synopsis. But it's coming out. Bleeker Street has a
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: bunch of movies being directed by women. I think this
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  Speaker 1: is one of them. So that's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really cool. Yeah so yeah, Well that'll make
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  Speaker 2: Simon de Rochefor of Polygon really happy. She is an
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: enormous Hemmingweight fan, so that's I hope she's listening. Okay,
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: Loki fans won't have to wait much longer for another
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: season featuring We Got a Mischief, because Season two of
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: Loki is scheduled to debut on October sixth of this year.
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: In addition, Echo, the spinoff from Hawkeye, will launched in
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: late November. Personally, I'm curious how Loki will try to
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: continue to set up Kang as the big bad for
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: the cycle of Marvel movies, and whether Echo will feature
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: a Candyo or two by the Devil of Hell's Kitchen.
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  Speaker 1: Oh you're done. I just I expected so much more now, Okay,
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: that's my fault, not yours. Tell Tale Telltale, if you
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: remember did the Wolf among Us and Walking Dead Dead
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: and Tails from Portlands and Matten and a bunch of
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: other stories in like a narrative adventure games sort of style.
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: They shut down in twenty eighteen, and they've come back
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: together under new management or I guess ownership. But they've
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: got the Expanse, a Telltale series coming out. It comes
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: out this July on PlayStation, Xbox and PC and it's
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: forty bucks or forty five if you want some extra
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: DLC if you like the expansion. This is a great
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: way to continue living in that universe.
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: I'm glad to hear that they're back in making more stuff,
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: because it was very sad when that company went under,
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  Speaker 2: because while I didn't always love all their games, I
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: appreciated what they were doing. You could argue that it
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: was kind of like a choose your own adventure in
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  Speaker 2: the style of a point and click adventure. But I
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  Speaker 2: didn't mind that. I thought it was cool.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, me too.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So Nick Cage is slated to blade Nick Cage again,
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  Speaker 2: but this time it's not for a movie. It's not
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  Speaker 2: for a television show or anything like that. It's for
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: a video game, namely the asynchronous multiplayer game Dead by Daylight,
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  Speaker 2: which one player assumes the role of a supernatural killer
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  Speaker 2: and everyone else is a victim, I'm sorry, survivor trying
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  Speaker 2: to escape. Curiously, right now, we don't actually know if
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  Speaker 2: Nicholas Cage is supposed to be a survivor or a killer,
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  Speaker 2: but we should learn more on July fifth.
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  Speaker 1: I have I have thoughts on that when we get
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: based on conversation with a good friend, when we get
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  Speaker 1: to our actual discussion pieces.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, because yeah, I kind of just love the idea
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  Speaker 2: of Nicholas Cage being the killer and it's just him
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  Speaker 2: like grabbing you and talking to you about his career.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: Something else. I know, you love. Jonathan is Lord of
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  Speaker 1: the Rings, and it looks like Amazon has made a
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: deal with Embracer Group to make a giant MMO game
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: of Lord of the Rings set Middle Earth. It's not
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  Speaker 1: gonna be that's.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: Will Smith Welcome, Welcome to Middle Earth.
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  Speaker 1: It's not going to be based off of Rings of Power,
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  Speaker 1: no direct tie in, but it will be based off
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  Speaker 1: of like the trilogy and the Hobbit and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 1: So if you like momos and you like or the Rings,
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: and you want to play a Lord of the Ring momo,
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  Speaker 1: keep an eye out for that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not the first time that they've tried to make,
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: you know, role playing style games off the Lord of
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  Speaker 2: the Rings franchise. I mean, that's kind of seems like
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  Speaker 2: a no brainer, but in my experience, only a few
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  Speaker 2: of those have ever really been fun to play like,
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: and some of them are the more brainless action games
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: like The Shadows, Shadow of Mordor. Yeah, yeah, okay. Hulu
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: released a blink and you'll miss it teaser for Futurama,
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: which is having a revival. It launches on July twenty fourth,
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: so get ready to join the whole game. Bender Professor Farnsworth,
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: Leela Stitch, bry Lock Master Shake, I could be mixing
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: up my cartoons right now. I really don't have anything
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: else to say about it other than I hope it's
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: better than the last revival or maybe I mean the
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: revival before last, because I've lost track.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Things. I've lost track of Wow expansions. But now Wow
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  Speaker 1: is getting a new server type based on like some
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  Speaker 1: I guess some player add ins, and it's a heart.
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  Speaker 1: They are hardcore servers, which means that there are certain
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  Speaker 1: things you can't do, like you can only do a
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  Speaker 1: dungeon each dungeon once before you hit level sixty, you
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  Speaker 1: can't use the auction house, you can't trade with other players,
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  Speaker 1: and most importantly, if you die, you don't get resurrected.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: I thought you were gonna say, if you die in
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  Speaker 2: the game, you die for real.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that would be truly hardcore. But it is
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  Speaker 1: interesting because one of the things that I know many
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: of my friends got burnt out on was killing bears
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  Speaker 1: in the snow, and so maybe with because if you died,
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  Speaker 1: you just went back and you killed more bears on
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  Speaker 1: the snow, maybe this will make it interesting for people
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  Speaker 1: who had felt like they had conquered all of the
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  Speaker 1: challenge of the game.
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  Speaker 2: Excellent, And I was going to say finally, but then
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: I just went ahead and looked at our show lineup
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: and saw that once again, Ariel has sneaked in yet
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: another one at the very end, so see pen. Ultimately,
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: in the latest battle between the Disney Corporation and the
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: State of Florida, CEO Mobb Eiger announced that the company
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: is canceling plans to build an employee campus in Orlando.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: It was to be a one billion dollar project to
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: house two thousand employees, and part of the plan was
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: to make a whole bunch of California based Disney employees
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: have to relocate Florida. So from what I understand, this
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: was not a really popular idea internally, So I'm sure
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: it's actually a relief to a lot of Disney employees
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: to hear this, while also kind of a smack in
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: the face to Florida.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that this is a like me adding
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: one more story in here is kind of ruining the
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: flow that you built in our podcast. But that's okay,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: and I apologize. There is a rumor there's an exclusive
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: that Hollywood Reporter put out yesterday saying that Eddie Murphy
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: is in negotiations to star as Inspector Cluso in a
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: reboot of Pink Panther to be directed by Sonic The
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Hedgehogs Jeff Bowler and I think that's interesting. It's been
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: a while since we've done pink Panther movies and I
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: used to like that.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: We've had a few different clusos, like Peter Sellers being
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: the original, Steve Martin Steve Martin. There was one other
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: one too, who was It was very poorly received and
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: I cannot remember which actor it was who played him,
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: but it was another one as well. So, I mean,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: the whole shtick there is. It's a bumbling detective who
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: typically is extremely clumsy and stupid and yet somehow manages
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: to come out on top and mostly to the annoyance
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: of the French police who are assigned to work with him.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: So it could be fun. It could also just be
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: a lot more cultural insensitivity. We'll have to see.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see. Hopefully they keep it up to date. Well,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: that is all of our thirty seconds to us. I
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: think we did pretty good. We didn't do too bad.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: No, I mean, like we're only twenty minutes in, so
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: we've still got an hour for us to talk about
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: everything else. If we're going to stay on the track
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: of what we've been previously doing.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: And listen, that was well, that can't be right. Hold on,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: that was eighteen stories, so yeah, a little over a
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: minute per it's not bad. And also like, also, yeah,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: we're twenty minutes in and we could go to an
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: hour twenty or you know, we could actually have a
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: reasonably length episode. Let's see what happens. You guys can
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: put your bets in now for a plot, so.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: You'll know because you could just look at how long
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: the episode is. We'll put our bets in.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Now, I'll put yeah, okay, okay. So normally we talk
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: about what we've watched in the last weeks. You want
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: to do that, sure?
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So last night last night, I had the opportunity
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: to watch something. So my wife is out of town,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: and when she's out of town, I can watch stuff
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: that she normally wouldn't want to watch, and I'm not
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: feeling like I'm taking time away from family and all
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. So I decided to watch ant
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Man and the Quantum of Solas or whatever that movie
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: is called. And because my wife has a massive phobia
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: of insects, she will not watch ant Man. She does
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: not like even the cartoonish ants in films like a
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Bugs Life. So ant Man's right out. So I watched
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: it finally, and I finally understood why Ariel referred to
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: ant Man as her favorite Star Wars recent Star Wars film,
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: because as I was watching, I'm like, oh my gosh,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: this feels like it's one of the Star Wars prequels.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: It had more of a prequel feeling to me than
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: the most recent trilogy did. But yeah, it felt like
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: it felt like it could have fit right into the
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Star Wars prequels from a stylistic perspective.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it had some things I liked. Overall, it
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: was a mediocre but enjoyable movie for me.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I will I will say, without giving any spoilers
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: because there may still be people out there who haven't
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: seen it yet who still want to see it, I
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: will say I feel like they are handling Kang very poorly.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Like not first of all, they're putting the Jonathan Major's
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: controversies aside for a moment because that's its own thing
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: that needs to be addressed. Uh. The actual story crafting
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: of Kang perplexes me because I'm not certain they're doing
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: a very good job to set him up as a
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: big threat for this cycle of Marvel, And I don't
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: want to go further into detail, because to do so
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: would require some spoilers. I'll just say that I feel
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: like there's there's it's a weird direction they're going in.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: I agree. I do feel like though maybe the threat
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: of Kang, and this isn't super spoiler because they addressed
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: it in Loki, is the fact that there's a multiverse
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: of him, multitude like infinite numbers of him and so.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: But there there are at least a few of them of
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: him who have notably turned on the rest of him
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: because that's who he is, which suggests that there might
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: not be that many of Kang by the time we
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: get around to another Avengers movie.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think I get the impression again from
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Loki that there are more bad Kings than there are
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: anti Kings. And I know that when we were talking
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: about it earlier offline, you had said that like they
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: didn't defeat Danos like they defeated King and Loki, like
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Thano's was a threat right up until the end, right.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: But also Kevin Feige has said that Ken Fiesh darn
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I look this up and I can't remember now, thank you,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: has said that, like they realize they have to change
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: how how their stories conclude in the storylines and make
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: them more interesting and make them more diverse. So maybe
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: they thought that putting another unbeatable Thanos in there just
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: as like as a Dio s ex Macino was not
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: a great way to go for this next phase, and
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: they wanted to try something fresh.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: It's possible, but I think putting a very beatable villain
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: as your big bad is also not the best choice. Like,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: there's got to be a happy medium between. Here's a
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: guy we've seen in various versions getting getting his his
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: his proverbial butt handed to him. But he's back again,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: and he's really mad this time. Like I don't know,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: I just I guess we'll see, Like there's still time,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: and I have a feeling that a lot of stuff
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: is going to get addressed anyway, because, as we've been saying,
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: a lot of the more recent MCU movies have received
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: kind of a colder reception for this last couple of
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: like this last phase, and like then, we already know
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: there are people who are determined to hate the Marvels.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: But I have a feeling that has more to do
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: with preconceived ideas and biases and less to do with
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: the movie. I mean, maybe the movie will turn out
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: to be terrible. I think it looks fun.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: I think it looks really good too. I love Kamali Khan,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: so I mean, I love them all, but I really
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: love the actress who plays Kamalikhon. She she brings her
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: to life in such a great way. Yeah. I also
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: watched a Marvel movie this past weekend.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Was it?
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: This weekend? Time has no meaning to me This week
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: it's been very busy. I saw Guardians of the Galaxy three.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: No spoilers because I know a bunch of people haven't
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: seen it yet. Even having yes, even having looked up
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: what happens in the movie, it was a good movie.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: I'm glad I watched it. It had a lot of
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: wonderful Guardians of the Galaxy moments to love for the franchise.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Even knowing what happened, it was there were many parts
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: that were very difficult for me to watch, and I'm
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: glad I saw it, but I don't think it's one
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: that I will seek out to watch again. I love
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: watching Guardians of the Galaxy one and too, I've watched
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: them a few times, but this one, just despite its
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: goodness and despite all the fun bits. I don't want
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: to go through the bits that were not fun for
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: me again, right.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: There were some sequences that were harrowing that you would
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: rather not relive.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: And you know it's not as this is not a spoiler.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: We know that the stories about Rockets past, right, and
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: a lot of the stuff dealing with his past was
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: difficult for me because I don't like animal endangerment and
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: that was the situation Rocket was in. So yeah, I
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: don't think that's a spoiler. But it was still a
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: good movie and I'm glad.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: I watched the fact that Rockett has a whole lot
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: of metal parts on him, because that's you see that
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: in the character design of rock and Dracgoon tells you
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: that the that his past was a violent one, and
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: so having to sit through and actually see that, I'm
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: sure is is rough, like when I like. I so
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: haven't seen it, but I do know about that, and
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: I really wonder how that will affect younger audience members
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: I go see the film.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I told I told my good friend and sister
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: that this might be a little scary for her younger kids,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: and that she should watch it first. That's what I
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: would suggest to parents with kids, who are you know,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: under fourteen, I would say is watch it first and see. Yeah,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: unlike the D and D movie, which I'm like, oh,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: this is great. There's a couple of swear words, but
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: otherwise it's fantastic and you should watch it. And this
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: is just a level of scary and adult situations.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: But I will see this mostly fun.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, it's mostly fun. While it is not necessary
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: to watch the Holiday the Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Special first, I would recommend it.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I know. There's at least a character who
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: reappears in Graions of the Galaxy volume three who was
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: introduced in that holiday special. And plus there's a plot
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: or at least a character element that's also introduced in
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: that that I know is referenced in Guions of the
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Galaxy volume three. And if you haven't seen the Holiday special,
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: you'll be like, well, that came out of nowhere.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's that. Uh yeah, Now let's get back
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: into this beautiful flow you created in our episode, Jonathan.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I had ended about my the thirty seconds
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: or less about Disney, because my first story is about Disney.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: So the first story is that the Disney Galactic Star
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Cruiser Hotel, which hasn't been opened that long, isn't going
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: to be opened much longer either. Word has now broken out.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Disney has announced that in September, the Galactic Star Cruiser
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: will be going on its final missions and then is
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: going to close. And in fact, people who had booked
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: a vacation that would have taken place after the closing
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: are now being contacted to see if they want to
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: rebook at a different time before other people are allowed
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: to make reservations. So for right now, as you're listening
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: to this, if you were thinking, oh shoot, I really
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: wanted to try that out, oh man, reservations are down.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Well they're down on purpose because they want to give
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: the folks who already had a booked vacation the chance
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: to rebook before they open up dates for the general public.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so. I have friends who are sad about
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: this because they've been and they loved it, and in
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: fact they were going again and hopefully we'll be able
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: to get rescheduled. But I I'm sad about this because
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: I love the concept, but the price point, Like because
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: I larp, you know, and this is like a like
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: a LARP or an interactive murder mystery all weekend and
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: while I like, I still can't grasp how they would
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: handle it with so many people, even at one hundred rooms,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: that's a lot of PCs to handle. Like, I love
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: the concept, and I'm I love that my friends who
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: have gone really enjoyed it. I just it was so expensive.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I I love the idea. And my wife,
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: who like I wouldn't think of her as being the
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: world's biggest Star Wars fan, but she just loved this idea.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: She really was curious about. She's a big Disney fan
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: and she does like really you know, intense and theming
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: like that's really cool to her. And we have gone
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: on actual Disney cruises together, and the Disney cruise ships
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: have phenomenal theming throughout them that it's really really nice
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: to walk through. So I think that was part of it.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: But it is hard to justify the expense because you're
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: not actually going anywhere, right, you're in a hotel. You
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: do get to go to Hollywood Studios for one of
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: the days that you're there for part of your stay.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: That's included in your stay, and you get all your
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: meals included, but it is as expensive I thought more
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: so than taking an actual cruise that takes you to
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: real world places.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Yes, And the difference is that the Disney Galactic start
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: group it was like five thousand dollars for two days,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: and you can spend five thousand dollars at an all
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: inclusive for an entire week, like a seven day vacation.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: The big the big difference there being obviously the Star
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Cruiser is populated by people who are playing roles. Like
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: all the cast members you encounter, they're all playing parts.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: So that's an added expense, right, because you're actually the
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: people you're interacting with. That's entertainment. It's not just staff.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: They are populating a world. And I am all about
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: paying staff what they're worth. I'm all about making sure
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: that the cast is fairly compensated, especially if they're doing
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: something as intense as a fully immersive multi day experience
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: like That's that's asking a lot, So it's a lot
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: of work on. Yeah, Like Ariel and I we both
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: are Renaissance festival veterans, and that was you know, that
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: would be a full day of being in character and
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: interacting with people, but it ends like at six pm
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: you go backstage and you're done, you don't you don't
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: have to like have an evening shift or anything like that.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: And so part of me is like I can understand
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: the expense in the sense that it isn't entertainment experience,
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: and you're also paying in order for that experience to exist,
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: right in order to pay for all the elements that
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: go into making that happen. And really it comes to
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: a reckoning of is are you getting the value for
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: your money? And if you're not, is there a way
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: of presenting it where you're not exploiting the cast members
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: and underpaying them or feeling making them feel unappreciated or
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: overworking them to death in order to deliver this experience.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: It's a very thin line to walk, and I think
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: it just is a case where Disney made a bet,
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: the bet failed to pay off. There aren't There just
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: aren't enough curious Star Wars diehard fans who also happen
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: to have that kind of discretionary income where they can
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: sink that much money on the short vacation.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, And like, I was talking with some of
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: our need diehard friends and they were like, yeah, especially
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: after pandemic, because costs of everything rose, and the first
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: thing that people cut out of their budget were like
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: luxury vacations, So it was just a really bad time
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: to launch as well.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's it's sad to see because Disney has
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: had some really incredible immersive entertainment experiences and they have
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: always been beloved by the base, right the fan base
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: for those things, but they haven't lasted, right they And
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: this goes throughout like lots of different things. There are
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: a lot of different attractions that used to depend upon
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: a live cast member participating in the attraction as part
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: of the experience, and a lot of those have been
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: cut way back, the Jungle Cruise being one of the
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: few exceptions. But like you think of things like the
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Great Movie Ride that used to be at Hollywood Studios
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: that depended upon cast members to deliver part of the
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: experience and that was taken away several years ago now.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: And of course, Ariel was a fanatic of a specific
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Disney entertainment venue that had almost a cult like following.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Would you like to talk about.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: That, Yeah, I have before The Adventures Club was a
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: part of Pleasure Island, which was full of nightclubs, and
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: back when I would go to Disney often enough to
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: hit the night clubs. I quite enjoyed it, and the
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: clubs were usually pretty full, but they dozed that to
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: do basically was downtown Disney now in the spring. Not sorry,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: not even downtown Disney Springs. You're correct, And it's not
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: the Bordock. It's Disney Springs. That tells you how much
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: I've been there. Since then, I still enjoyed Disney, but
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: life reasons kept me from going back as often. But
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Adventures Club was also interactive. It was you all play
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: characters for an evening of nineteen thirties adventuring like society,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: and you go in and there are things on the
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: walls to talk to you, and puppets and the characters
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: that play with you, and it was wonderful. And I
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: know a lot of those actors have gone on to
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: do other immersive things at Disney. Galaxy's Edge is still
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: pretty immersive. The like The Rise of the Resistance does
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: still require the people who help run the ride right
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: to make it an experience and a lot of and
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: you know, both at like the Marvel Campus and at
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: galaxies Edge, they've worked hard to make sure not everybody
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: does it, but worked hard to make sure that like
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: the people who are selling you drinks, and the people
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: who are serving you food, and the people who are
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: picking up trash all have stories as to what planet
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: they're from, why they're here, so that it is more immersive.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: So like there, it is still there. I'm not going
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: to get into everything about like union actors or just
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: non union. I don't think it's my place to even
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: talk about it. With Disney stuff, so I should I
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: probably shouldn't even know in some cases, but Adventures Club
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: was wonderful and it closed, and I'm very sad because
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: I would go there all the time. It was just
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: it was it was an air conditioned able to drink
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: way from me to enjoy Renaissance Festival without having to
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: shop at stores.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, it's that sort of interactive theater, like if
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: you've ever been to any kind of theatrical event where
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: there's audience participation, you know, not necessarily being called up
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: on stage and then you're the butt of a joke,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: but rather like things like sing along screenings of movies
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. It's where you are part of
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: a crowd, you are also all engaged in this activity.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: You're being entertained, you're also participating it builds a sense
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: of community. It's a special sort of thing when you
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: get to do one of those experiences. And you know, Disney,
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: when they started creating the parks in the first place,
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Walt Disney's plan was to try and create environments where
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: it felt like you were being pulled into like a
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Disney movie or a Disney series, right, Like that was
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: the whole concept was you are entering into this and
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: you are now part of this ongoing story. And that's
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: what makes those those kinds of shows and attractions really
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: special to me because they seem to really tap into
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: that spirit. But they are admittedly very challenging to keep going,
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: like they are expensive to run, they may be limited
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: in how they generate revenue. They require a lot of
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: buy in and participation from the cast, and if the
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: cast isn't up to it, it's not going to be
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: a good experience. So it's it's a tough thing to
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: get right. But if you do get it right, I
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: think it brings value beyond the money it brings in right,
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: because that's what gets people like you Ariel absolutely hooked.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: And I mean you're going to come back whenever you
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: possibly can, because it's such a rewarding experience, and.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: I'm going to buy a bazillion drinks and snacks and
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: things like that. Yeah, Adventures Club was my dream job.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: I even auditioned, well, now, I auditioned for Finding Nemo
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: the musical, but I was hoping that they'd cheeharm me
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: into the Adventures Club. I will say this is a
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: random thought going back to the Star Cruiser, even though
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: it's only two days. Like, I know that when I
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: have run LARPs, because when you run a larp, you
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: do it from like game on, Like you usually get
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: to site early, you set up game on is usually
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: around like nine am, you go to bed around like
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: three in the morning when the players are all done,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: and you get up early the next morning to run
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: stuff for the early risers. And it's a lot, so
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: I also understand. And as a player, even after like
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: a weekend, you're like, oh, I'm so tired. So you
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: probably wouldn't want more than two or three days as
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: fun of his experience as it is because you just
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: be exhausted.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, because this isn't this isn't really a Star
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: Wars themed hotel, right, it's more than that because you're
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: not expected to leave that hotel at all during that
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: except for the one excursion to Batu you do for
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Hollywood studios. Other than that, you're there and you're doing activities,
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: and you know, it's up to you how much you
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: want to participate in, how much you want to do.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: But it's not like you're going out to lounge at
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: the pool or anything. You are part of this immersive
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: experience and so it's not the same thing as lounging
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: around a resort or even you know, getting up early
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: and heading out to the parks, and the only time
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: you ever see your hotel room is when you come
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: back to crash. It's different from that. So I think
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: that's another part of it, is that a lot of
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: people just didn't have their minds wrapped around what this was.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, although you could lounge and I bet there is
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: a pool that I bet there is a pool there somewhere,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: I bet, But why would you want you if you
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: spend that much money to be part of a story?
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean unless there are jawas in the pool,
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: because those guys they could party.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, But you know what, I bet Disney has learned
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: from this and next they're going to open up a
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: hunted Mansion Hotel at least one hundred rooms.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: You're joking, but you know, you know I would be
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: like on the phone on hold trying to reserve a
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: room if that were true.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: I know a bunch of people who would be if
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: it had a lower price point than Galactic Starkers, or
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: I know a bunch of people who wanted to do
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: the Galactic Starkers are just couldn't afford it. So it
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: depends on how expensive you'r hunted B and B state
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: would be. No, I wasn't joking. I completely believe that
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: they might do that. There are no rumors. That's just
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: me spitballing Disney.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: If you do it, yeah, throw her a little kickback.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: But no, what Ariel was attempting to do was segue
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: to our next story. It's just she did so in
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: a way where I was like, shut up, that is
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: the best idea.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: I know, though, right Well, I wouldn't say there because
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: I'm a scary, scaredy cat. But yes, so yeah, Haunted
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: Mansion has a new trailer out and it's pretty cute.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Actually there's bits of it that are kind of intense.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Uh not like I think you know kids who are
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: like ten or over should be able to handle it
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: just fine. Like it looks to me like the kind
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: of stuff I saw when I was a kid, and
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: I enjoyed it, even the bits that were a little
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: little spooky scary. But yeah, I actually I dug the trailer.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: I really liked the sequence they chose for the very
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: end of the trailer, which involves two characters describing a
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: spirit to a police sketch artist, and it ends up
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: looking exactly like one of the concept art pieces that
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: that was the inspiration for the Haunted Mansion attraction.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, like it looks pretty cute. That's because
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: they balanced cute and fun bits with the scary bits.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: It also looked pretty scary to me. I will agree
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: that there are moments that were intense that would probably
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: still scare me personally as an adult, but like the
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: human interaction bits were delightful. So I hope the overall
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: movie has as good of a balance sane.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: I think I'm hoping that it will be a surprise
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: delight the same way the very first Pirates of the
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Caribbean movie was. And obviously it's a lot of the
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: same team that worked on Pirates that worked on this movie,
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: but you never know, Like I still haven't watched the
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: Jungle Cruise movie. I just can never work up the
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: motivation to actually push play on the darn thing. So
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: I'm hoping that's not gonna be my reaction when we
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: get closer to Hanted Mansion hitting theaters.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: I was about to say, my guess is that you're
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: going to see the theater. But like, you like scary stuff,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: so the Haunted Mansion is more your bag anyhow.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but like Hannam Mansions, like that's not real scary scary,
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: that's like kitty scary.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: That's true. I forgot how interactive the line into the
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: Haunted Mansion is.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: Well, and they've added to it right because originally, way
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: back in the day, you would walk through the line
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: this at disney World, not this different from Disneyland, but
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: at Disney World you would walk through the line and
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: there'd be a little cemetery and you can read some
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: amusing epitaphs on the grapestones, and that was about it.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: But then several years ago they added a whole bunch
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: of other stuff, including like interactive elements that if you
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: if you touch them, they play sounds and that kind
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: of thing or they scort you with water.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I hadn't ever seen those before. Like I went
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: to Magic Kingdom for the first time in years and
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: years and years last year with some family that's and
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: yeah that was that was a fun treat for me
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: because I didn't know they had done that.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Another fun treat for me. Are you ready to segue
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: on yep? Is that doctor who has dropped a new
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: trailer with the titles for all of their specials, the
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: titles whatever, but just the content of each episode, the
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: little click they give us each episode looks super fun
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: to me, and I am really into it.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I'm really into. I'm really into
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: Neil Patrick Harris's villain character.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's like the third special, So like
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: you're gonna have to watch two specials to get to him.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: Or I can just watch one out of context and
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: just enjoy.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: It that I guess. I guess you can do that. Actually,
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: these special go ahead.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: Oh I was just gonna say, he looks he made
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: me think of like if you were to take a
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: you know, like the classic image of the stage magician
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: and combine it with the Master of Ceremonies from cabaret.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: That's what you would get.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: That's exactly accurate. I will say that this trailer. I
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: haven't finished up Jody Whittaker's seasons. Yeah, I've talked about
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: my opinions of her, my positive opinions of her as
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: a doctor versus some of the writing for her doctor.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: But I now now the completionist in me wants to
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: catch up before these specials drop. I'm gonna I'm gonna
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: have to be quick. Thank you. I have HBO and
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: I can do that.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: They look good like it's it looks like it's it's
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: really well made. And uh, you know, I am I
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: fell up. I was never the biggest Doctor Who fan anyway,
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: I tried and then eventually just my motivation ran out
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: for that entirely. And I haven't really watched anything beyond
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: the first couple of Matt Smith episodes, so I am
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: generations behind at this point. But U but these did
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: look like they're they're well made, and they look entertaining
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: and and also exciting.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and also like Donna Noble is my favorite companion.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: I know I'm not in the majority there, but I
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: absolutely loved her in the fact that she's going to
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: be back. I'm super interested to see what they're going
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: to do with all of it, especially the second special
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: episode redacted.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: My favorite companion was Nebula.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: That's that's old school or are you talking about Guardians
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: of the Galaxy again?
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: I was talking about Guardians of the Galaxy because Karen
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: Gillen blamed Nebula and she was, oh Doctor Who.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: She's nod She's very few people's favorite companion, Jonathan.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: I know, but I was making a joke.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: She's a wonderful actress. I actually I enjoyed her and
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Doctor Who, and I liked Amy Pond and I've even
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: cause played Amy Pond. But really, Karen Gillan took off
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: for me as an actress after that, like Jimonji and
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Guardians at the Galaxy. She's just really.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: Like I I.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: Appreciate her so much more now than I did back then,
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: no fault of her own. You know, you like nph's
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: magician cabaret guy, and yeah, maybe he can just go
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: over and do what he did for Doctor Who at
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: the Tony's and that way it doesn't have to be scripted.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So there was because of the writer strike here
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: in the United States, there was a real concern that
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: this might mean that the Tonys would not be able
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: to go on, partly because you know, there are writers
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: who write these shows, Like they write the jokes, they
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: write the lead ins that people say when they're presenting awards.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: The only thing that's not written down besides like, you know,
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: maybe an off the cuff joke someone makes without running
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: it by anyone first are the acceptance speeches. Everything else
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: is written. Well, you can't do that during a strike.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: You're not allowed to. And then there was also the
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: additional possibility that writers might picket the event, and if
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: they did that, then people who work behind the scenes,
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: like all the people who run the cameras or run
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: the lights or things like that, they might choose not
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: to cross a picket line, which would mean the Tonies
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: would not like, they could still happen, but they wouldn't
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: be televised.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so originally they were like, well, we could do
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: on because originally the Tonys asked for a waiver from
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: the Writers Guild, because the Writer's Guild and the guild
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: that oversees Broadway actors and stuff are not the same.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: But the WGA said, no, we're not going to give
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: you a waiver. So they're like, well, we could do
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: an unscripted televised or we could do an untelevised event,
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: but they're going to televise. WGA is not striking or
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: not picketing the show. So I don't think this is
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: the first time we've had an untelevised tone or an
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: unscripted tonies because I think it happened during the last
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: writers strike as well, but I'm not certain, so don't
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: quote me on that. But buckle up, guys, because sag
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Aftra just sent out the vote to whether they are
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: willing to strike or not when the contract is up
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: in June, so I don't have the results of that.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, got it, But yeah, I would say, And of
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: course the directors guild their their contracts also up in June, so.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: I don't follow that as much because I'm not a director.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: But yeah, but a lot of the planets are aligning
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: right now and for lots of reasons, and most of
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: them come down to student videos have traditionally, studios have
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: nearly all the power in those relationships until you get
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: to a point where people can collectively bargain and force
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: change that so that way, the rising tide will lift
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: all boats, because obviously you're always going to have a
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: few standouts who are like the superstars in their field.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: They're not necessarily the most talented, but they are the
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: most sought after. They're looked at as box office draws,
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: and they get enormous deals, like crazy deals that sound
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: like you won the lottery, right, But that's the exception.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: That's like the top point five percent, and everybody else
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: is at a very different level. And it's only through
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: this collective bargaining that they're able to secure the compensation
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: and the benefits and the consideration that they need in
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: order to do what they do.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if you think about it, there are
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: actors out there who has worked twenty years in the field,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: had lead roles in feature films and never have gotten
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: paid above scale. Yeah, which scale? I if you think
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: on it, like the per day amount for scale is
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: a decent amount of pay. You're going through a lot though,
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: that's it's a long day and there's a lot of
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: work and there's a lot of stuff you might may
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: or may not be put through on your day on set. However,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: like it's it's not enough to make you rich. No,
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: unless you're working every day of every month.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: Right exactly. I was about to say, like, you know,
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: these productions, not every film is like a you know,
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty day long shoot or whatever. It's
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: not all like a Stanley Kubrick production. Some movies, you know,
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: they get shot in a month and a half and
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: then they wrap, and if you are working during that
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: month and a half, it's great for that month and
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: a half, but once it's over, you need to line
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: something else up or else you are having to figure
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: out how to keep your your money to stretch so
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: that you can continue to make ends meet while you
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: land your next gig. Like that's the reality of the business,
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: whether you're a writer or an actor. Less so for directors,
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: but still, I mean, especially for like independent directors, it's
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: a case.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: But like writers and actors are largely pushing for better
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: residuals and also just better wages, right, Like they want
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: living wages because these contracts are long, and they a
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: lot of writers, especially with micro rooms and the way
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: that writers are kind of being hired now to fix
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: up other people's scripts, which is not to script doctor,
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: which is not like that's not a new concept, right,
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: but it's happening more and more, and that's a different
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: case scale from from my understanding. And so like a
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: lot of these people aren't even living like a middle
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: class life. They their income.
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: They're a Hollywood right out there who are living the
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: more typical La lifestyle, which means they're they're renting a
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: place with several other people, they've got roommates right like,
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: It's it's not like everyone's got that house on in
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: the hills where they look out over Hollywood and the
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: shooting star goes overhead and all that. That's again, that's
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: the exception, not the rule. So so again solidarity with
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: the writers. We love Broadway, we love theater. So we're
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: glad to see that the Tony's are still going on.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: No telling what that show's going to be like without writers.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: Here's hope, and it's okay, we're not going to get
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: a big opening number like the ones that Neil Patrick Harris.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: Used to do that said I'll still watch because Shucked
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: talked about it on the show before is nominated in
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: Somebody in that you all know that by now, And
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: thank you Jonathan for raining me in. I was about
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: to go into all of the background costs that people
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: don't factor into an actor's life, and that's a different
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: topic for different day.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe we'll do a discussion episode on a day
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: when we actually don't have that much news. We keep
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: thinking that's going to happen, and yet it doesn't. Yeah.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: So there were a couple of things that are in
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: our actual discussion pieces that I feel like could have
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: gone into thirty seconds or less and went into our
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: discussion pieces when I thought it was going to be
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: a short episode, such as we're getting a four part
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: Tim Burton docuseries on his movie process.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: So I'm surprised you didn't reference this documentary about how
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: Tim Burton became a famous sad boy. Yeah. Yeah, or
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: the day that Tim Burton discovered curly cues or swear
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: leave swirls because they keep showing up in his movies.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: I wasn't clever. I just put it down as ever
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: wondered how Tim Burton got so burtany. Yeah, but you're right,
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: I should have put him in my sad Voyd Glearing
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: in the Corner Club.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like obviously.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: To John Snow and Ed Grellan.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: Poe Poe Snow and Burton. Uh yeah, Tim Burton. Obviously
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: he's written, he's rather he's directed movies that don't fall
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: into the like outcast, gloomy kind of goth aesthetic approach.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: You know, he's he's famous for those because of things
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: like Edwards's Her Hands and Beetlejuice and even Batman. But
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: he's done other stuff too. But yeah, I think I
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: think a lot of for a lot of people. When
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: you hear the name Tim Burton, you're thinking of a
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: specific kind of aesthetic, the kind of thing you saw
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: in the Wednesday series or in Beetle Juice.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I hope they focus a lot on Wednesday and Beetlejuice,
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: although I'm I'm personally going to be disappointed if they
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: don't have an entire one of four one of the
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: four parts devoted to Superman lives.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: Wow, all right, well wait did he do Superman?
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: I know he was going he was supposed to direct it.
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: Right, and Nicholas Cage was going to play Superman.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And then I mean, and there's already a document
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: documentary about it with Silent Bob. Yeah. Yeah, so there's
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: already a documentary about it. But if they don't reference
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: it at least once, I'm going to be sad.
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, next up, we got a trailer for a
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: science fiction film called The Creator, which I told, oh,
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I skipped the mission. Well we could go
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: we can circle back to the mission impossible.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: No, it's fine, Yes, the Creator, go to the Creator.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: I accidentally skipped a line in our excel sheet. So yeah,
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: we're we've got We've got a trailer for the Creator,
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: as well as a trailer for Mission Ipossible, which we'll
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: talk about in a second. But the trailer for The
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: Creator that prompted me to call it, what was it
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: children of robots because it made me think of children
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: of men. Yes, yeah, there's something else I called it too,
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: but I can't remember what it was.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: I don't remember. I'd have to look it up.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: It's not that important. It probably wasn't that funny.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: You got Wait, they our listeners don't want to sit
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: and listen while I look up an old comment and
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: g chat with you forever, Like I don't.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: I don't understand if it was if it was a
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: really good one, baby, But no, I just I just
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: called it children or robots. Now I didn't. I did
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: not have a different alternative title. Besides that, because I
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: just found it.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: Gotcha, gotcha? Yeah. I actually I shared this with a
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: different friend group because they like science fiction things, and
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: everybody was really divisive. Some people were like, this looks
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: like it could be fun, and other people like this
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: looks so dumb and boring and same hat. It appealed
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: to me, Like there have been a lot of other
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: AI stories coming out recently, or trailers coming out and
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: things like that, other than Missus Davis, I think this
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: one appeals to me the most of all of like
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: the AI centric stories we've been talking about lately, And
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe it's just the aesthetic of it.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it does feel very derivative of a
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: lot of different things, because, like the basic premise is,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: we created AI, it got out of hand. It it
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: became sentient and began to rebel against humans. So, which
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: is following down the Terminator storyline, right, like that's the Terminator,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: and then humans start to fight back and they're trying
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: to figure out a way to stop the robots, which
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: again still Terminator. But then there's a twist in that
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: the major weapon, apparently based on the trailer, the major
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: weapon that they need is actually a young Android Boy,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: and that starts to like, like, you start to see
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: a lot of of science fiction tropes kind of fall
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: in line to create this particular story. Doesn't mean that
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: the story is going to be bad. It just I
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: can see why some people are saying it feels familiar
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: because it is tapping into a lot of themes and
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: stories that other movies have already kind of explored. But
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: this may still be a really good one. The trailer
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: didn't super grab me, but again, that doesn't necessarily mean
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: the movie's bad.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: I thought the performances in the trailers were nice, and
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: there were a couple of moments that I really liked.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: I'll probably watch it if I.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: Do find the design of the androids to have a
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: hole in their head to be really distracting.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: I like it. I think it's cool. So yeah, Mission Impossible.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: There's part one of a new one is also coming out.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, listen. The Mission Impossible movies are well crafted
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: action films that almost all of them have the exact
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: same storyline, which is, ah, shoot, the people who are
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: supposed to be on our side are really the bad guys.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: Spoiler alert for every Mission Impossible movie. Like, like, I
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: think there might be just one mission impossible movie where
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: the villain doesn't turn out to be a different like
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: agency in the United States, And part of me thinks
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: that the reason for that is very cynical because it's
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: a way to sell the movie overseas, because if you
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: don't make the bad guy some other nation or something,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: then you don't have to worry about offending anyone when
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: you're trying to sell your movie in like China.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: I also feel like if you if you don't make
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: it so there's a fine line, right because like if
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: you are trying to make a political statement like DC
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: and Marvel, for instance, Marvel with Black Panther can make
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: some great statements about society and culture and things like
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: that and do it in a way that is really
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: accessible and digestible. DC is really bad at that. I think,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: like the Black Adam storyline, that it just it didn't work.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: So you can make your bad guy a not existing
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: country and make it work. But yeah, if you make
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: it an existing country, then that's not really fair to
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: the majority of the population there, So.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: I mean no, But the flip side of that, as
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: you're saying over and over again that your own nation
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: is so corrupt, that all of its agencies are turning
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: on each other over Like, that's not a good story either, right,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: Like you're I don't know, man, Like maybe it's maybe.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: Ultimately the thing you have to walk away from from
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: the Mission Impossible series is that the Mission Impossible group
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: themselves they're really the bad guys. Yeah. There's all these
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: differ movies where they're the heroes, but they're actually the
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: bad guys because everybody else is always trying to stop them.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: And by everybody else, I mean everybody else in the
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: United States.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this one. The trailer looks fun and exciting.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: I just can't tell it. And I've watched the Mischoot
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: Impossible movies, and I like action movies, and they're fine,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: but they're they're nondescript to me, like you.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: Said they yeah, they like I said, Yes, I have
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: not watched all of them. I've seen I know, I've
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: seen the first two, and then I saw the one
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: where Henry Cavill loads up his arms.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: I okay, the one with the must in the bathroom.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's in the bathroom fight scene. He does
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: this thing where he he's got his arm like he's
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: putting his fists up like he's about to do Queen
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: of Marksbury rules boxing, and then he does a boom
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: boom with his fists where everyone calls him cocking his
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: arms to get ready for his I.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: Didn't watch that Mission Impossible. I watched Justice League instead,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: where they had to see Gi his face because he
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: couldn't take off his Mission Impossible mustache for the reshoots.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he had to have a digitally enhanced upper.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: Lip, which did not work at least fifty percent of
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: a time. Timple degrees with me. Now, like they could
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: make individuals or AI bad guys in Mission Impossible just
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: to shake it up.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, but someone's going to make the AI, and you
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: know it's going to be some other agency in the
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: United States. That's my problem.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: Cool. Well, let's go from large scale corruption to individual
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: corruption with our next trailer.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: So next up, we got a trailer for a series
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: called Based on a True Story, which is a seri.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: Kaylee Cuoco's in it. It's a series that's about a couple.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: The wife of the couple is absolutely obsessed with true
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: crime podcasts, and then the couple end up deciding that
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: they they figured they think they figured out who a
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: serial killer is, and they want to get the serial
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: killer to join them to make a true crime podcast
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: because they figure that has never been done before, and
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: it'll mean their podcast will become a spectacular success and
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: that will guarantee them financial security and make them famous
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: and all this other kind of stuff. And I thought
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: the trailer was amusing and entertaining, and as someone who
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: has worked in podcasting for fifteen years, it also abused
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: me because I have thoughts and opinions about the whole
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: true crime genre.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, agree. When the trailer first started off as like,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: is this gonna be is this going to be over
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: the line, because like there's some movies like this where
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: it's like on the line of like is it too
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: crass for me to really enjoy? I was worried this
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: might be it. But as the trailer went on, I
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: thought it actually looked charming at points and fun at points,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: which is surprising because it's by the creatives for both
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: The Boys and Ozarks worked on it, and those are
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: both horribly depressing and shocking properties.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: So really super dark.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but this didn't look as dark. It had some
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: at least the trailer had some delightful moments.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I probably will check it out. One thing,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure I'm going to check out, And I'm
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: very disappointed that it's no longer the last item in
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: our discussion.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: Well we can make it the last item.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, just because traditionally we end with a horror
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: movie trailer, Well.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: The trailer after that might be a horror movie too, So.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: Well, let's just stick with what we've got, which is
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: that we got a trailer or really a teaser for
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: the Five Nights at Freddie film, which is funny because
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: Nicholas Cage already made a movie that was essentially a
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: Five Nights at Freddy's rip off, so there really isn't
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: any need to do an actual Five Nights at Freddy's movie,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: but we're getting one anyway.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: But you didn't like the Nicholas Cage one, some of
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: our listeners.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: Did, It's okay. I also don't like this teaser, so
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: it's fine.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: So this this teaser kind of starts off with Josh Hutcherson,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: who we talked about earlier as being in the Ernest
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: Hemingway movie, and whenever people reference what he's from, it's
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: never from detention which I thought was on or sometimes
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: it's Hunger Games, but it's never from Detention, which was
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: a movie I think that he wrote and directed and
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: started that was ridiculous, time travel noir, fun, not super
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: high budget, but you should check it like it's it's fun.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: It's a dumb fun movie. My favorite thing he's done. Anyhow,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: this trailer actually kind of scary to me, whereas, like,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: I know, the video game would scare me at points
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: because it's all it's all about jump scares, right, that's
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: the entire point of the game. Of the video games.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: This trailer probably will have jump scares, but it also
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: looks like they're throwing in some Saw type elements and
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: that's scary to me. No, but I had some conversations
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: with some friends who are like, Okay, the stars Josh Hutcherson,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: does it star Josh Hutcherson the same way that Saw
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: Stars carry Elwis And I'm quoting my friend directly that
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: stars Saw Stars carry Elwis or Screams Stars Drew Barrymore.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: And if they do that, I think it'll be a
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: horrible shame.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: Well, it all depends on they have to have a protagonist,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: because otherwise what who do you terrorize? Right, You've got
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: to have somebody who is in the role of being
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: terrorized by this. So the game series, if you're not
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: familiar with it, is that you take on the part
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: of a Usually it's like either a and It's person
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: or a security personnel. It depends on which of the
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: entries we're talking about, because there's several gains in the
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: Five Nights at Freddy's series, but they're all based on
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: a similar premise, which is that you're at this Chuck
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: E Cheese style entertainment place for kids. You are there
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: to have an overnight shift. The animatronics actually have minds
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: of their own. They are also psychotic and murderous, and
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: so you're trying to get through the night and survive
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: by using different little techniques to lure the animatronics away
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: from you and to prevent them from getting to you.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: And that's the whole thing of the game, And like
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: Ariel was saying, it's really all about trying to do
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: your best to avoid the jump scare, which represents you
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: your character dying. But really the scary part is just
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: that you've got an unexpected fright. So the movie needs
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: to do more than that or else it's going to
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: be a pretty lame experience.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that made me wonder if Nick Cage in
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: the Dead by Daylight video game will also be the
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: same like Drew Barrymore Stars and Scream sort of a thing.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean the Nick Cage one, Like, he doesn't
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: say anything in that movie. He doesn't have an I.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: Met in the video game. I met the video game.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, Dead by Daylight?
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: Right, Yes, that's what I say.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: I think. I think he's gonna be either. I mean
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: he's likely going to be either a survivor, which means
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: he'll have some lines that he'll say as he runs
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: around and as you as you control him to try
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: and escape a killer, or he'll be the killer, in
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: which case he'll have weird lines as he's stalking everybody.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: If if he's a survivor, I sure hope they let
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: they let you do it where all the people playing
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: survivors can all be Nicholas Cage. Can you imagine playing
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: like like like like Jason trying to chase down four
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: different Nicholas Cages.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: That's that's that thought broke my brain. Jonathan.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: You'd have to call it Nicholas uncaged I am.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: I appreciate Nicholas Cage. I don't appreciate everything he does.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: He's done a lot of movies that just are not
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: my cup of tea, but I appreciate how much he
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: and he throws himself into all his characters.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: Commits.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he really commits to his characters.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: So the last trailer we're going to talk about might
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: be a nightmare to some people. It's about theater Camp.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: Yes, we got a trailer. We got a trailer for
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: the film Theater Camp. It is actually based off a
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: short film that came out a few years ago, and
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: Ben Platt was part of it back then. He's part
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: of it now. And as you might imagine, it's a
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: film about a theater camp where a bunch of geeky
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: kids get together. Who are They're all like theater nerds,
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: and they're all there to learn theater stuff off. And
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: it has elements of the old eighties cliche of let's
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: put on a show and save the camp. Like that's
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: part of the plot. But I had to read up
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: on what was actually going on because the trailer, like
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: you get little bits of what's going on, but you
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: don't get like the backstory, and the backstory is that
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: there's a woman who runs this theater camp. She goes
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: into a coma apparently, and her son, who is like
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: this frat boy bro type tech bro kind of guy,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: is then put in charge of being the administrator for
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: the theater camp. And meanwhile, the counselors the theater, the
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: grown up theater kids who are just as geeky as
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: Ben Platt being one of them, are trying their best
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: to try and make sure that the camp doesn't, you know,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: run totally into the ground.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It it definitely looks like there's some really cute
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: funny bits. It's definitely relatable to a theater I never
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: went to theater camp, but I am a huge theater nerd.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: You all know this. Why am I staying the obvious?
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: Jonathan and I are bold huge theater nerds. And some
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: of it looks really cute and some of it looks
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: very like wet hot American summer style of humor.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: Oh no, I got, I got total wet hot American
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: summer vibes. Yeah, from parts of the not as not
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: as absurd as wet hot American summer obviously, but there
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: there's definitely some overlap and humor there.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's some some I don't want to say low,
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: but there's some bluer humor in it. But there is
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: a really great there's a really great moment in the
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: trailer that just made me laugh so hard because it
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: was obvious, but it was they were like, well, we
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: have the musicals, and then we have the straight plays,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: and they're like, what is a straight play? And they're like,
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: it's not a musical. And they're like, okay, so what's
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: a gay play? And I guess it would be a musical,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: which you know is not true. Straight playser just plays
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: without music, and musicals music.
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  Speaker 2: But it was that joke, that whole setup, Like literally,
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  Speaker 2: it's the kind of joke designed for the audience to
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  Speaker 2: say the punchline before the character does, right, Like that's
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  Speaker 2: that's what that joke is. And if there was anyone
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  Speaker 2: who watched that trailer and didn't already say musicals before
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  Speaker 2: the character in the scene says musicals, it would shock
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  Speaker 2: me because that's the way that joke.
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  Speaker 1: Was written, and it's probably that movie is probably not
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  Speaker 1: for you. Then, Uh yeah, I don't know if I'll
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  Speaker 1: watch it. I I'm I'm really intrigued. The trailer definitely
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  Speaker 1: feels like some self flagellation for the geekingness I felt
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  Speaker 1: being a theater kid.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it it definitely like it has moments in
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  Speaker 2: it where obviously, like counselors are, they're trying to they're
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  Speaker 2: trying to inspire the the kids, but they're also like
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  Speaker 2: being they're trying to be the tough realist too about
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  Speaker 2: this is you guys are the best of the best.
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  Speaker 2: This is going to destroy you like that kind of thing.
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  Speaker 2: Like those are the jokes, but it still seems like
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  Speaker 2: overall the film has a kind of like a sweet
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  Speaker 2: core to it, as opposed to some other theater camp
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  Speaker 2: style movies where it's all about the kids finding ways
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  Speaker 2: to absolutely sabotage one another so that they can take
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  Speaker 2: center stage and the other person can't.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, which I appreciate more. Uh you know what else
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate Jonathan Me. I appreciate you and you won
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  Speaker 1: the bet our Our episode went over an hour.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean all I had to do was talk.
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  Speaker 1: Slow, using my own tactics against me. All right, Well,
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  Speaker 1: if you guys appreciated what we've talked about, if you
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  Speaker 1: want to tell us the minute that we're missing in
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  Speaker 1: Mission impossible. Or if you just want to tell Jonathan
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  Speaker 1: congratulations on having a better grasp of how long this
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  Speaker 1: episode would take, you should write us and tell us
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  Speaker 1: how can they do that?
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  Speaker 2: Jonathan, Well, you gotta drive yourself down to the farmer's
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: market on the outskirts of town. There, you're gonna find
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: yourself one booth that's selling packets of pepper bush seeds.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: You're gonna get yourself one of them packets. You're gonna
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  Speaker 2: drive yourself back home, dig a little hole in the yard,
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  Speaker 2: throw one of them seeds in there, covered up, give
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: it some water, and let it grow. It's gonna take
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: a while, but eventually, in late summer, it's gonna start blossoming.
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  Speaker 2: With those first peppers. You're gonna harvest them peppers and
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: you're gonna take them inside your house. You're gonna grind
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  Speaker 2: them up real good, mix in some cilantros, some onion,
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  Speaker 2: and you're gonna make yourself the salsa in that. And
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: then the next Tuesday, when it's Taco Matt, you take
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  Speaker 2: that there salsa and you slather it on one of
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: them tacos. You gobble that son of a gun down
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  Speaker 2: as fast as you can say, lick at his flip.
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  Speaker 2: And then when you're sitting there in bed regretting your
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: last decisions as your stomach is doing summer salts and
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  Speaker 2: your tumb tumb, you're gonna have yourself awaken nightmare dream There.
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna see a man with no face. He's got
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: tacos for arms. You're gonna ask him your question, and
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: then I'll answer you by sending you an email.
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  Speaker 1: I'm really disturbed. And if you want to write me
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